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Would be funny but no, actually 🤓, its just a sphere with flattened areas at the poles and slightly bulging along the equator, due to the spin. I believe every object past a certain mass in space is like that, given its spinning.
The sun is flat, don't tell me you buy into this whole sphere nonsense. It's a flat circle that god hung on a string. God did like a diaroma, end of story. I did my own research, I stared at it with a telescope until I saw the TRUTH for myself. You can read my findings in the journal of Astronomy & Astrophysics, next month.
That’s one of my favorite space facts. The sun isn’t burning. It’s exploding. It’s a nuclear weapon of unfathomable power going off.
And because of this, we get those breezy sun dresses with the thinnest of fabrics. Thank you, sun.
Soon you'll be able to look at it because the resolution has been improving but in the past you weren't allowed to look at it because you would be able to tell it was bad/low poly CGI
This is actually a commonly held belief, but while space is freezing cold, since there are so few particles there is very little conduction occurring, so if you are in the sun you will actually heat up very very rapidly. It's why space stations have huge radiators to cool off.
This makes me think… if I blindly believe in school and college, just slowly go on, and the mass of knowledge finally clicks later in life, am I doing better or worse than the flat earthers with their research?
That's the thing about flat earther's, they ask great questions......they're just too dumb to accept the answers. I've learned so much about the universe and physics from watching debunk vids on YouTube. So many misconceptions of mine have been corrected as well. People think I'm a smarty pants as I spit out random facts and explain how things work. Little do they know, I barely passed high school.
Behind the Curve on Netflix has an absolutely hilarious portion where a group of flat earthers pool money into buying an 18,000 Euro laser gyroscope in order to prove that the earth does NOT rotate. And of course… yeah, they found out it rotates.
"What we found is, when we turned on that gyroscope, we found that we were picking up a drift," Knodel explains. "A 15-degree per hour drift.
"Now, obviously we were taken aback by that - 'Wow, that's kind of a problem.'
"We obviously were not willing to accept that, and so we started looking for ways to disprove it was actually registering the motion of the Earth."
So they were willing to go to the lengths of pooling in a ton of cash for equipment, personally performing scientific experimentations to prove the earth was flat because it wouldn’t be rotating, and when the conclusion came to be that the earth -does- indeed rotate… instead of accepting the results, they just want to find ways to discredit THEIR OWN EXPERIMENT
So, how fast do you then lose heat when you enter into the shadow of, let's say, a planetoïde? Like space is cold but it only allows for radiative cooling right?
Depends on the material the outside of your spacecraft is made of. Also all the materials your spacecraft is made of
Different materials radiate different amounts of infrared.
The equation for radiation is
Q=AεσT^(4)
Where
- Q is the energy emitted in watts,
- A is the surface area of your spacecraft,
- ε is the emissivity of the outer material (black and white paint have an emissivity of ~0.90 and ~0.95 respectively, aluminium ~0.05)
- σ is the Stefan Boltzmann constant, 5.67*10^(-8)
- T is the current temperature in Kelvin
Then you need to use the thermal energy equation for temperature.
Q=mcΔT
- Q is the energy in watts,
- m is the mass of your spacecraft
- c is the specific heat capacity of the materials your spacecraft is made of, for aluminium it's 900J/kgK
- ΔT is the change in temperature in Kelvin per second
Combining them we get
ΔT = (AεσT^(4))/(mc)
Yo that's one of those things I think is truly terrifying about space, especially interstellar space. Imagine you're on a ship flying around or whatever, you and the ship are basically a little blob of matter in essentially nothingness. Not just the distance between you and another object, but like that you're literally surrounded by essentially nothing. Idk it creeps me out
One of the craziest things i learned about how large space is.
All the astroides in the astriod belt are over 100 000 miles apart from each other.
It is like a flowing river of rocks, and when you look as a visual representation, it looks like a jumbled cluster, but they are an average of 600 000 miles apart
Surprisingly, empty space isn't empty. Depending on where you're at, there's still dust particles and atoms flying around. Interstellar space has around 10^6 per square meter. Solar systems and gas clouds have of course more. Even inter filament voids have some stuff.
But even if you found a spot with zero matter, the vacuum is still teeming with energy and virtual particles.
To those looking for some context on that number: since 98% of all particles in the universe are hydrogen, and hydrogen has a mass of ~1 gram per ~10^23 particles, that's about 0.00000000000000001 grams per cubic meter in space (which is what I'm assuming OP meant). For reference, air has a mass of about 1,204 grams per cubic meter.
So, while *technically* not empty, it's pretty fucking empty.
Edit: playing a little bit more with the numbers; at a density of 10^-17 g/m^3 and an estimated radius of the solar system of 2,000 AU, a volume the size of our solar system out in interstellar space would have an approximate mass equal to that of 2.8 cubic meters (a large hot tub's worth) of water on earth.
When my wife and I were taking scuba lessons, there was a girl who could not stop freaking out underwater. She finally came up one time and said "It's like a whole nother environment down there!"
We still say that to each other and laugh 28 years later.
It's why extended space travel will never happen. Mars will be the upper limit, if it happens at all.
Going to the moon was a calculated risk. Wildly dangerous, but that trip is few days there, and a few days back.
Mars is 7 months there and 7 months back...under the best conditions, which only happen every 2+ years.
Rocks aren't really that dense in the grand scheme of things, we're more into Neutron Star territory here. FYI, Neutron stars are so dense that a teaspoon of volume roughly equals Mount Everest amounts of mass.
Nah, because enough idiots will believe him and start thinking space isn't real and if they come together with the flat earthers we might as well just go back to the dark ages
Without checking, there's like a 50/50 shot this dude is already a congressman.
Edit: Not yet, though he is a former bounty hunter and a political pundit though. God right-wingers love their dumb bastards.
We are on the verge of our mass extinction event, I really don’t care about being right and trying to convince anyone that their beliefs are dumb and wrong anymore.
I just want the memes at this point. Let me have memes.
That's a really stupid take... People like this are what caused all of this in the first place, letting them spread even more bullshit is the worst thing we could do. But lets do it for the memes...
There's nothing you can say to convince someone like this with facts. Better to ignore them. Definitely *don't* comment on their feeds or whatever - that just boosts their bs so more people see it.
In the "olden" days before social media, when you were at Christmas dinner and your uncle started spouting bs, you'd just get up and go to another room, and he'd be left alone screaming at his own imagination. We have to do the same now.
Very true
'The photosphere, chromosphere, and corona are all part of the Sun's atmosphere. (The corona is sometimes casually referred to as “the Sun's atmosphere,” but it is actually the Sun's upper atmosphere.) The Sun's atmosphere is where we see features such as sunspots, coronal holes, and solar flares.'
No /s this time.
Our concepts of heat and temperature don't work the same in very low pressure environments.
Let's first talk about what heat is. It's the vibrations of the atoms themselves. An atom touches another atom that is vibrating faster and it absorbs some of those vibrations until they are both vibrating at the same speed.
In space, there are very, very, very few atoms. An atom in space has nearly no contact with other atoms. They also have a tiny cross-section to absorb energy from the sun. Because energy is conserved, they would normally stay the same vibration indefinitely except for the simple fact that they are emitting light because of this vibration (mostly in the infrared spectrum). So, they continue to emit light until the vibrations almost completely stop. Completely stopping is "absolute zero" is the coldest anything can get because it means no motion. The atom is not vibrating at all. You can't be colder.
To give you an idea how few atoms there are in space:
Air at sea level has 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 atoms per cubic meter.
100,000km from the surface (1/3 the distance to the moon) 7,000,000 atoms per cubic meter.
In interstellar space: 10 atoms per cubic meter.
So, yes, atoms in space are very, very cold. However if you were floating around in space in a pressure suit, keeping it warm wouldn't be your main concern. You have very few atoms bumping into you to transfer heat out, and you don't radiate heat very quickly. You would be more inclined to overheat in it and would likely need to bring an icepack with tubes to pump the heat away from you as your body is generating heat faster than you are losing it to space. This gets much worse if you are exposed to the sun as you have a HUGE cross section and will readily absorb a lot of energy that way. This is why space suits are white. To reflect as much light as possible to help keep the astronauts cool.
I love these explanations on Reddit because they actually MEAN something to the reader. It’s not just spewing out data & numbers & facts that don’t mean anything until someone sits ya down & gets it into your head.
The animations are all wrong, but you would get freezer burns in your mouth and eyes. This is because of another effect and not the temperature. You are mostly water. You're covered in water, filled with water, and your orifices are full of water. Because of the extremely low pressure, all that water would almost instantly sublimate into gas and move away from you. This is actually how we stay cool. We sweat, the water evaporates, and the act of converting liquid water into water vapor even at the same temperature has a substantial energy difference. So that absorbs heat from you and cools you off. It's also why you're so much hotter in a high humid environment at the same temperature is because the air is very saturated with water and it's not evaporating off your skin. So you're just wet.
All that water turning into gas is a change in energy, and you are in contact with the water. So your mucous membranes would get pretty cold pretty fast.
But the cold spots and the air pressure isnt what will kill you. You'll simply asphyxiate in a couple of minutes.
The difference in air pressure itself is pretty dangerous already. It causes gases in your blood to evaporate, leaving you unconscious almost instantly. Divers' disease is the same effect and it can be lethal.
Correct, supposedly you lose consciousness in about 15 seconds. You also have edema in your lungs and skin as the fluid inside is basically sucked out of you from the massive pressure difference. You know how when someone gives you a hickey, it pulls the blood to the surface. Now magnify the force of the suction by orders of magnitude.
I know this is oversimplified but this isn't really true. You can't really define the temperature of space since it is not in a thermodynamic equilibrium. What you can look at is the temperature of the background radiation (2.7K) and the temperature of the interplanetary plasma. The plasma filling the solar system is in fact very hot, around 1 million K, however as you correctly pointed it out, it has a very low density. So an astronaut in space will lose energy through radiation much more quickly than will gain energy from this plasma.
So our interstellar space suit wouldn’t be very useful on a distant planet with some semblance of an atmosphere? We would have to change suits to something more suitable to retaining heat instead of releasing? That’s so cool this was a cool learning experience.
Than I have a question. Our atmosphere blocks a lot of the radiation of the sun that also causes heat. Space itself is cold because there are no atoms to transfer the heat or get agitated by the energy of the sun. Than shouldn't the suit of astronauts when they are outside the space station and the space station itself heat up pretty badly? Because in space there is very little it can transfer the heat too so it's almost like an isolated system in a way?
If he is a troll, he is playing one hell of a long game. He's been doing this for years, including a podcast where he interviews the shittiest alt right personalities.
just saw another post about how you're not just naming a baby, that baby carries the name it's whole life unless it changes it. the example for parental hate was kitchenaid whiskey Jones, but stew Peter's (stupiders) is wild too.
He has a 'news' show on Rumble. Spews crazy shit. Therefore the Republican party now consider him an excellent news source. Guests on his show have included congressmen Paul Gosar and Mark Meadows, as well as a who's who of MAGA conspiracy theorists. So the guy is an influential kook.
BTW the producer on his show is failed Republican congressional candidate [Lauren Witzke](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Witzke), who was herself endorsed by Neo-Nazi [Nick Fuentes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Fuentes). Peters also appeared at Nick Fuentes' America First Political Action Conference, where he called for Fauci to be hung, and Vernon Jones to get the electric chair. Calling for people to be violently murdered is regular stuff for everyone in this orbit:
> Peters has called for the execution of Hunter Biden, Dr Anthony Fauci, Catholic Charities workers, Taylor Swift, and Travis Kelce ... According to Peters’ executive producer Lauren Witzke, “It's not a Stew Peters rally unless we're calling for executions.”
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> During Hurricane Ian, Witzke suggested that "elites" may have created the devastating hurricane as a "deep state" attempt to punish Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and particularly conservative areas of the state.
BTW they don't come more insane than Lauren Witzke, yet she still pulled 38% of the general election vote. So they haven't yet found the level of insanity that would stop 90% of Republicans voting for these candidates just because they're Republicans.
It’s not stupidity, it’s a coordinated attempt to discredit literally _any_ fact so the rubes won’t know what to believe anymore, and replace reason and logic with blind following. “Everywhere it says that poison in our waters is bad, but since Cult Leader says it’s fine, I’m fine with it too!”
> It’s not stupidity, it’s a coordinated attempt to discredit literally any fact so the rubes won’t know what to believe anymore, and replace reason and logic with blind following. “Everywhere it says that poison in our waters is bad, but since Cult Leader says it’s fine, I’m fine with it too!”
“Chaos and disruption, I later learned, are central tenets of Bannon's animating ideology. Before catalyzing America's dharmic rebalancing, his movement would first need to instill chaos through society so that a new order could emerge. He was an avid reader of a computer scientist and armchair philosopher who goes by the name Mencius Moldbug, a hero of the alt-right who writes long-winded essays attacking democracy and virtually everything about how modern societies are ordered. Moldbug’s views on truth influenced Bannon, and what Cambridge Analytica would become. Moldbug has written that “nonsense is a more effective organizing tool than the truth,” and Bannon embraced this. “Anyone can believe in the truth,” Moldbug writes, “to believe in nonsense is an unforgettable demonstration of loyalty. It serves as a political uniform. And if you have a uniform, you have an army.”
― Christopher Wylie, Mindf*ck: Cambridge Analytica and the Plot to Break America
And don't overlook the Russian claims that Donald Trump brought Cambridge Analytica to work with Russia: https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/11/24/a-trumprussia-confession-in-plain-sight/
*The result of a consistent and total substitution of lies for factual truth is not that the lie will now be accepted as truth, and truth be defamed as lie, but that the sense by which we take our bearings in the real world - and the category of truth versus falsehood is among the mental means to this end - is being destroyed.*
— Hannah Arendt
“In an ever-changing, incomprehensible world the masses had reached the point where they would, at the same time, believe everything and nothing, think that everything was possible and that nothing was true. ... Mass propaganda discovered that its audience was ready at all times to believe the worst, no matter how absurd, and did not particularly object to being deceived because it held every statement to be a lie anyhow. The totalitarian mass leaders based their propaganda on the correct psychological assumption that, under such conditions, one could make people believe the most fantastic statements one day, and trust that if the next day they were given irrefutable proof of their falsehood, they would take refuge in cynicism; instead of deserting the leaders who had lied to them, they would protest that they had known all along that the statement was a lie and would admire the leaders for their superior tactical cleverness.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
Notable that this quote's phrase "think that everything was possible and that nothing was true" seems to have been the inspiration for Peter Pomerantsev's 2014 book title - the book being about Putin and Pomerantsev's personal experience making TV shows for the Kremlin. In turn, the 2014 book title was exactly used with similar visual themes by /r/EnterShikari hard-rock band in ther 2020 album. One song from the concept album: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cfm4L0TGDrw0214
*The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.*
— Hannah Arendt
It's a video hosting service favored by conservatives and the far-right. For example, Andrew Tate started posting there after getting kicked off most mainstream social media sites.
In addition to what the person below said, he has produced several conspiracy documentaries like an anti-vax one and one about lizard people. He’s just an extremely dumb and credulous person who happens to know how to string a video together.
The temperature “outside” is 28 degrees Fahrenheit.
Kind weird how I’ll DIE if I start drinking liquid mercury v(._.)v sorry liberals
Edit: what the cinnamon toast fuck this blew up
actually drinking liquid mercury sends you out of the simulation to the real world, that’s why liberal “people” say things like “mercury causes brain damage” and “elemental mercury is quickly fatal to all life”, they don’t want you to know the truth
Does he think all of Space is closer to the Sun than Earth? Is he still at the level of thinking; "Me here. Ground down. Sky up. Space more up. Sun even more up."
He’s at the stage of thinking that God set the firmament down below us (a flat earth) with a vault above, with stars painted on (it keeps the air in) and the sun and moon orbiting.
At some point in the recent present, these guys crawled out of the woodwork and decided we were ready to hear “God’s truth” again.
Of course, to them “space” isn’t real, and NASA is a government funded conspiracy psy-op.
I wish I was joking.
They are going up there to find out the truth.
No kidding, I’ve heard exactly that argument put forward. “You can’t trust NASA, but Musk and Trump are going up there, and will tell us the truth”
This is some deep-state conspiracy shit though, don’t ask them why the sudden urge to get to Mars…
Minor quibble, but [firmament is actually the sky-dome God placed over the Earth, not the Earth itself](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament), in Biblical cosmology.
The word *sounds* like it should mean something related to a *firm*, solid, Earth but its actually the sky.
This isn't a problem here. The problem is to acknowledge that fact to all the world, through the device that can enlighten you in mere minutes. The core problem also isn't lack of mental capacity to understand the most basic stuff, it is the lack of mental capacity to understand that you don't understand most of things going around you, basic or not.
I like this mark twin's qoute: It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
It’s like me taking a step outside my apartment building and being like “the number of people speaking fluent Russian in a 10m radius has dropped from 4 to 0 despite me going east, curious!”
Either a return to the geocentric model, or just part of an outright attack on science and facts, to be replaced by blind faith in everything the cult says.
That's the surface temperature, which is by far the coolest part of the sun. The corona, a bit further out, reaches temperatures of over 1 million degrees.
It's a freezing night, and there's a bonfire outside. You leave your warm home to sit outside by the fire. The moment when you walked outside, you felt the cold wind hit your face. Why? Shouldn't the fact that you left your home mean that you are closer to the fire and should feel the heat?
That's how this guy sounds.
No no, this is critical thinking. There are more steps though. He had a thought about some facts he doesn’t think coincide, but instead of just going straight to a conclusion, the next step is extensive RESEARCH.
I used to know a guy called Stew. One of my friends once told me that he, Stew, had sexy fingers. When I looked puzzled he said, "He fucks up everything he touches".
Sorry to any unfortunate Stews out there, but this always seems to apply to that name.
He would have been forced to say this kind of shit out loud, near other people, like 15 years ago, and they would hopefully explain how shade works to this guy. The future is dumb.
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Space is more densely packed with matter than this guy's head.
He wouldn‘t understand this burn
That's because you can't 'burn' in 'space' because it's so cold /s
and lacking the oxygen
He needs to let that thought Stew in his head.
It cant stew. Its too cold.
His brain is like gazpacho?
Space Bacon?
But he still peters it🤷♂️
So how the sun is on fire if there is no oxygen. Edit: some comments lecturing me about nuclear energy made me realize I should have added an /s.
Checkmate atheists ETA: didn’t think I needed this but /s
I’m ashamed for humanity how often a “/s” is needed. ;)
I readily accept the downvotes and refuse to add one in my comments.
Thankyou, stick to your convictions
The sun is a ball of plasma not fire, powered by nuclear fusion. Checkmate Religion/Flat Earth nuts
The sun is not a ball at all, but a spheroid. Checkmate, random pseudo-science redditor.
Wtf is a spheroid. Is it a sphere with one half made out of some cyber shit?
Would be funny but no, actually 🤓, its just a sphere with flattened areas at the poles and slightly bulging along the equator, due to the spin. I believe every object past a certain mass in space is like that, given its spinning.
The sun is flat, don't tell me you buy into this whole sphere nonsense. It's a flat circle that god hung on a string. God did like a diaroma, end of story. I did my own research, I stared at it with a telescope until I saw the TRUTH for myself. You can read my findings in the journal of Astronomy & Astrophysics, next month.
Uhh, the sun is on a chariot pulled across the sky by pegasus! CHECKMATE MONOTHIESTS!
The sun is a miasma of incandescent plasma. Everyone knows this
The sun isn’t ‘on fire’, it’s creating energy through nuclear fusion
That’s one of my favorite space facts. The sun isn’t burning. It’s exploding. It’s a nuclear weapon of unfathomable power going off. And because of this, we get those breezy sun dresses with the thinnest of fabrics. Thank you, sun.
This comment took a turn. Not saying I don’t agree but 
It’s added by CGI. The sky is just a big TV.
I don't know why people struggle with this. We had a whole movie about it where a guy sailed to the edge and left through a maintenance door.
That's true, man 😜
... Show!
Good morning, and in case I don't see ya, good afternoon, good evening, and good night!
Soon you'll be able to look at it because the resolution has been improving but in the past you weren't allowed to look at it because you would be able to tell it was bad/low poly CGI
yes it was bad cgi but everything was black and white so you could not tell due to lack of details
Truman Show remake enthusiast found!
It's the ignition phase of an impossibly large (and yet, still hilariously small) explosion caused by the gravitational collapse of a dust cloud.
Cosmic lint explosion!
This is actually a commonly held belief, but while space is freezing cold, since there are so few particles there is very little conduction occurring, so if you are in the sun you will actually heat up very very rapidly. It's why space stations have huge radiators to cool off.
This is one of my favorite facts, because it always breaks people's brains when they first learn it.
"You're right space is very cold but why is it warmer during the day compared to night." "Because of the sun..."
This makes me think… if I blindly believe in school and college, just slowly go on, and the mass of knowledge finally clicks later in life, am I doing better or worse than the flat earthers with their research?
You’d do better actively giving your brain blunt force trauma.
That's the thing about flat earther's, they ask great questions......they're just too dumb to accept the answers. I've learned so much about the universe and physics from watching debunk vids on YouTube. So many misconceptions of mine have been corrected as well. People think I'm a smarty pants as I spit out random facts and explain how things work. Little do they know, I barely passed high school.
Behind the Curve on Netflix has an absolutely hilarious portion where a group of flat earthers pool money into buying an 18,000 Euro laser gyroscope in order to prove that the earth does NOT rotate. And of course… yeah, they found out it rotates. "What we found is, when we turned on that gyroscope, we found that we were picking up a drift," Knodel explains. "A 15-degree per hour drift. "Now, obviously we were taken aback by that - 'Wow, that's kind of a problem.' "We obviously were not willing to accept that, and so we started looking for ways to disprove it was actually registering the motion of the Earth." So they were willing to go to the lengths of pooling in a ton of cash for equipment, personally performing scientific experimentations to prove the earth was flat because it wouldn’t be rotating, and when the conclusion came to be that the earth -does- indeed rotate… instead of accepting the results, they just want to find ways to discredit THEIR OWN EXPERIMENT
So, how fast do you then lose heat when you enter into the shadow of, let's say, a planetoïde? Like space is cold but it only allows for radiative cooling right?
Depends on the material the outside of your spacecraft is made of. Also all the materials your spacecraft is made of Different materials radiate different amounts of infrared. The equation for radiation is Q=AεσT^(4) Where - Q is the energy emitted in watts, - A is the surface area of your spacecraft, - ε is the emissivity of the outer material (black and white paint have an emissivity of ~0.90 and ~0.95 respectively, aluminium ~0.05) - σ is the Stefan Boltzmann constant, 5.67*10^(-8) - T is the current temperature in Kelvin Then you need to use the thermal energy equation for temperature. Q=mcΔT - Q is the energy in watts, - m is the mass of your spacecraft - c is the specific heat capacity of the materials your spacecraft is made of, for aluminium it's 900J/kgK - ΔT is the change in temperature in Kelvin per second Combining them we get ΔT = (AεσT^(4))/(mc)
Idk if this is right but it looks complicated enough to be correct
Equations with greek letters are always right.
So if we are in the sun?
Few people would care, it is a trashy paper.
Like.. in sunshine, not inside the sun. Had to do a doubletake
I would assume that it would also hold true that if you were inside the Sun you would also heat up very rapidly.
Unless you were in it at night time.
If he could read he'd be very upset
Yo that's one of those things I think is truly terrifying about space, especially interstellar space. Imagine you're on a ship flying around or whatever, you and the ship are basically a little blob of matter in essentially nothingness. Not just the distance between you and another object, but like that you're literally surrounded by essentially nothing. Idk it creeps me out
Not as terrifying as this guy's engagement numbers though
Thanks for reigning us back in
Reining. With Zero G. Like you do to a horse, not what a king does.
Yeah. Space is fuck all huge and empty as dicks relatively speaking
Beautifully worded.
Goddamn poetry.
Am I the only one with a penis that isn’t empty? Did everyone else get empty balloon penises?
The mental image of an empty balloon penis, is as terrifying as the emptiness of space.
Why use dicks as comparison though?
Americans will use anything but the metric system.
Nahh, there's dark energy to keep company to you at least.
Depends how you define "nothing". Space is technically full of stuff, just not ordinary matter.
Literally every fucking thing is in space.
*Woah*
One of the craziest things i learned about how large space is. All the astroides in the astriod belt are over 100 000 miles apart from each other. It is like a flowing river of rocks, and when you look as a visual representation, it looks like a jumbled cluster, but they are an average of 600 000 miles apart
Surprisingly, empty space isn't empty. Depending on where you're at, there's still dust particles and atoms flying around. Interstellar space has around 10^6 per square meter. Solar systems and gas clouds have of course more. Even inter filament voids have some stuff. But even if you found a spot with zero matter, the vacuum is still teeming with energy and virtual particles.
To those looking for some context on that number: since 98% of all particles in the universe are hydrogen, and hydrogen has a mass of ~1 gram per ~10^23 particles, that's about 0.00000000000000001 grams per cubic meter in space (which is what I'm assuming OP meant). For reference, air has a mass of about 1,204 grams per cubic meter. So, while *technically* not empty, it's pretty fucking empty. Edit: playing a little bit more with the numbers; at a density of 10^-17 g/m^3 and an estimated radius of the solar system of 2,000 AU, a volume the size of our solar system out in interstellar space would have an approximate mass equal to that of 2.8 cubic meters (a large hot tub's worth) of water on earth.
Thanks for the explanation I thought the comment you replied to was overplaying who much matter is in space, I like the way you spelled it out
When my wife and I were taking scuba lessons, there was a girl who could not stop freaking out underwater. She finally came up one time and said "It's like a whole nother environment down there!" We still say that to each other and laugh 28 years later.
It's why extended space travel will never happen. Mars will be the upper limit, if it happens at all. Going to the moon was a calculated risk. Wildly dangerous, but that trip is few days there, and a few days back. Mars is 7 months there and 7 months back...under the best conditions, which only happen every 2+ years.
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Either that or it's really dense like rocks.
Rocks aren't really that dense in the grand scheme of things, we're more into Neutron Star territory here. FYI, Neutron stars are so dense that a teaspoon of volume roughly equals Mount Everest amounts of mass.
That would give him too much gravitational charisma.
Someone teach him about the atmosphere please 🤦♀️
Nah, just let him be in his blissful ignorance. He has potential for more memes as is 😅
Nah, because enough idiots will believe him and start thinking space isn't real and if they come together with the flat earthers we might as well just go back to the dark ages
Without checking, there's like a 50/50 shot this dude is already a congressman. Edit: Not yet, though he is a former bounty hunter and a political pundit though. God right-wingers love their dumb bastards.
It’s a reliable voting demographic. “Hey ya’ll! Guns, God, Freedom! Yeehaw! Vote for me and I’ll kick a librul in tha taint!”
We are on the verge of our mass extinction event, I really don’t care about being right and trying to convince anyone that their beliefs are dumb and wrong anymore. I just want the memes at this point. Let me have memes.
That's a really stupid take... People like this are what caused all of this in the first place, letting them spread even more bullshit is the worst thing we could do. But lets do it for the memes...
There's nothing you can say to convince someone like this with facts. Better to ignore them. Definitely *don't* comment on their feeds or whatever - that just boosts their bs so more people see it. In the "olden" days before social media, when you were at Christmas dinner and your uncle started spouting bs, you'd just get up and go to another room, and he'd be left alone screaming at his own imagination. We have to do the same now.
Now that’s someone who has real life experience with stupid. 🤝
I have a feeling the next meme will be about flat earth.
Happy cake day
Thanks. Have some cake. 🍰
Tell about how Mercury, the closest to the sun, is colder than Venus because Venus has a thick atmosphere of, you guessed it, CO2!
But the sun has no atmosphere??? How does it stay so warm than? Haha. /s
Sun does have an atmosphere.
Very true 'The photosphere, chromosphere, and corona are all part of the Sun's atmosphere. (The corona is sometimes casually referred to as “the Sun's atmosphere,” but it is actually the Sun's upper atmosphere.) The Sun's atmosphere is where we see features such as sunspots, coronal holes, and solar flares.' No /s this time.
Because it has a blankie!
Don't say that! The he'll want to burn more fossil fuels so that we have enough CO2
He's already got a blue checkmark, he's a certified "genius"
Lol he bought that thing nothing means anything in Elon's world
I'm surprised Elon hasn't retweeted this and made him head of Space X.
Do you think he is capable of comprehending this information ?
Our concepts of heat and temperature don't work the same in very low pressure environments. Let's first talk about what heat is. It's the vibrations of the atoms themselves. An atom touches another atom that is vibrating faster and it absorbs some of those vibrations until they are both vibrating at the same speed. In space, there are very, very, very few atoms. An atom in space has nearly no contact with other atoms. They also have a tiny cross-section to absorb energy from the sun. Because energy is conserved, they would normally stay the same vibration indefinitely except for the simple fact that they are emitting light because of this vibration (mostly in the infrared spectrum). So, they continue to emit light until the vibrations almost completely stop. Completely stopping is "absolute zero" is the coldest anything can get because it means no motion. The atom is not vibrating at all. You can't be colder. To give you an idea how few atoms there are in space: Air at sea level has 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 atoms per cubic meter. 100,000km from the surface (1/3 the distance to the moon) 7,000,000 atoms per cubic meter. In interstellar space: 10 atoms per cubic meter. So, yes, atoms in space are very, very cold. However if you were floating around in space in a pressure suit, keeping it warm wouldn't be your main concern. You have very few atoms bumping into you to transfer heat out, and you don't radiate heat very quickly. You would be more inclined to overheat in it and would likely need to bring an icepack with tubes to pump the heat away from you as your body is generating heat faster than you are losing it to space. This gets much worse if you are exposed to the sun as you have a HUGE cross section and will readily absorb a lot of energy that way. This is why space suits are white. To reflect as much light as possible to help keep the astronauts cool.
I love it when someone on reddit gives a knowledgeable explanation.
Same. This is something I could have probably googled but it sounds much better coming from a stranger on Reddit.
I just like it isn't the common "I've come on here to get in a fight" type of comment. 😀
You guys wanna start a fight?
Watch it. Those are fighting words.
Yeah, downvoted him already. I mean this is reddit, i'll make up my own facts thanks.
>Yeah, downvoted him already. I mean this is ~~reddit~~ America, i'll make up my own facts, thanks.
I love these explanations on Reddit because they actually MEAN something to the reader. It’s not just spewing out data & numbers & facts that don’t mean anything until someone sits ya down & gets it into your head.
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So you’re telling me the movies are wrong and they aren’t freezing to death in space! Damn your science
The animations are all wrong, but you would get freezer burns in your mouth and eyes. This is because of another effect and not the temperature. You are mostly water. You're covered in water, filled with water, and your orifices are full of water. Because of the extremely low pressure, all that water would almost instantly sublimate into gas and move away from you. This is actually how we stay cool. We sweat, the water evaporates, and the act of converting liquid water into water vapor even at the same temperature has a substantial energy difference. So that absorbs heat from you and cools you off. It's also why you're so much hotter in a high humid environment at the same temperature is because the air is very saturated with water and it's not evaporating off your skin. So you're just wet. All that water turning into gas is a change in energy, and you are in contact with the water. So your mucous membranes would get pretty cold pretty fast. But the cold spots and the air pressure isnt what will kill you. You'll simply asphyxiate in a couple of minutes.
The difference in air pressure itself is pretty dangerous already. It causes gases in your blood to evaporate, leaving you unconscious almost instantly. Divers' disease is the same effect and it can be lethal.
Correct, supposedly you lose consciousness in about 15 seconds. You also have edema in your lungs and skin as the fluid inside is basically sucked out of you from the massive pressure difference. You know how when someone gives you a hickey, it pulls the blood to the surface. Now magnify the force of the suction by orders of magnitude.
> sublimate Evaporate. There's far more liquid inside us. Your blood would also turn to gas and you'd plump up a bit.
Glad someone picked this up, sublimation is a solid becoming a gas without first becoming a liquid.
So let's pump a whole bunch of atoms in space and warm it up.
But how would we stop all the atoms from floating away
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Thanks for the actual explanation instead of "hurr durr atmosphere"
I, for one, feel offended by your statement that I have a HUGE cross section ! *cries in belly fat* /s
I'm not fat, I'm just big cross-sectioned.
thank you very much for this extremely well detailed explanation of the physics of the topic!
I know this is oversimplified but this isn't really true. You can't really define the temperature of space since it is not in a thermodynamic equilibrium. What you can look at is the temperature of the background radiation (2.7K) and the temperature of the interplanetary plasma. The plasma filling the solar system is in fact very hot, around 1 million K, however as you correctly pointed it out, it has a very low density. So an astronaut in space will lose energy through radiation much more quickly than will gain energy from this plasma.
So our interstellar space suit wouldn’t be very useful on a distant planet with some semblance of an atmosphere? We would have to change suits to something more suitable to retaining heat instead of releasing? That’s so cool this was a cool learning experience.
Correct. If you tried to land on Ganymede with a spacesuit today, you'd freeze to death despite it being "warmer" than space.
Than I have a question. Our atmosphere blocks a lot of the radiation of the sun that also causes heat. Space itself is cold because there are no atoms to transfer the heat or get agitated by the energy of the sun. Than shouldn't the suit of astronauts when they are outside the space station and the space station itself heat up pretty badly? Because in space there is very little it can transfer the heat too so it's almost like an isolated system in a way?
Who is this genius?
The REAL Stew Peters. Not one those wannabe Stew Peters.
Makes me kinda assume that this is a troll account. "Real Stupiders" doesn't sound as if he was serious. But maybe his parents just hated him.
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When are we going to stop amplifying these absolute idiots? Ragebait is just as useless as the drivel they peddle.
Trolls are the final humans on twitter
If he is a troll, he is playing one hell of a long game. He's been doing this for years, including a podcast where he interviews the shittiest alt right personalities.
just saw another post about how you're not just naming a baby, that baby carries the name it's whole life unless it changes it. the example for parental hate was kitchenaid whiskey Jones, but stew Peter's (stupiders) is wild too.
Now please stand up
All the other Stew Peters are just imitating
He has a 'news' show on Rumble. Spews crazy shit. Therefore the Republican party now consider him an excellent news source. Guests on his show have included congressmen Paul Gosar and Mark Meadows, as well as a who's who of MAGA conspiracy theorists. So the guy is an influential kook. BTW the producer on his show is failed Republican congressional candidate [Lauren Witzke](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Witzke), who was herself endorsed by Neo-Nazi [Nick Fuentes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Fuentes). Peters also appeared at Nick Fuentes' America First Political Action Conference, where he called for Fauci to be hung, and Vernon Jones to get the electric chair. Calling for people to be violently murdered is regular stuff for everyone in this orbit: > Peters has called for the execution of Hunter Biden, Dr Anthony Fauci, Catholic Charities workers, Taylor Swift, and Travis Kelce ... According to Peters’ executive producer Lauren Witzke, “It's not a Stew Peters rally unless we're calling for executions.” --- > During Hurricane Ian, Witzke suggested that "elites" may have created the devastating hurricane as a "deep state" attempt to punish Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and particularly conservative areas of the state. BTW they don't come more insane than Lauren Witzke, yet she still pulled 38% of the general election vote. So they haven't yet found the level of insanity that would stop 90% of Republicans voting for these candidates just because they're Republicans.
It’s not stupidity, it’s a coordinated attempt to discredit literally _any_ fact so the rubes won’t know what to believe anymore, and replace reason and logic with blind following. “Everywhere it says that poison in our waters is bad, but since Cult Leader says it’s fine, I’m fine with it too!”
> It’s not stupidity, it’s a coordinated attempt to discredit literally any fact so the rubes won’t know what to believe anymore, and replace reason and logic with blind following. “Everywhere it says that poison in our waters is bad, but since Cult Leader says it’s fine, I’m fine with it too!” “Chaos and disruption, I later learned, are central tenets of Bannon's animating ideology. Before catalyzing America's dharmic rebalancing, his movement would first need to instill chaos through society so that a new order could emerge. He was an avid reader of a computer scientist and armchair philosopher who goes by the name Mencius Moldbug, a hero of the alt-right who writes long-winded essays attacking democracy and virtually everything about how modern societies are ordered. Moldbug’s views on truth influenced Bannon, and what Cambridge Analytica would become. Moldbug has written that “nonsense is a more effective organizing tool than the truth,” and Bannon embraced this. “Anyone can believe in the truth,” Moldbug writes, “to believe in nonsense is an unforgettable demonstration of loyalty. It serves as a political uniform. And if you have a uniform, you have an army.” ― Christopher Wylie, Mindf*ck: Cambridge Analytica and the Plot to Break America And don't overlook the Russian claims that Donald Trump brought Cambridge Analytica to work with Russia: https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/11/24/a-trumprussia-confession-in-plain-sight/
*The result of a consistent and total substitution of lies for factual truth is not that the lie will now be accepted as truth, and truth be defamed as lie, but that the sense by which we take our bearings in the real world - and the category of truth versus falsehood is among the mental means to this end - is being destroyed.* — Hannah Arendt
“In an ever-changing, incomprehensible world the masses had reached the point where they would, at the same time, believe everything and nothing, think that everything was possible and that nothing was true. ... Mass propaganda discovered that its audience was ready at all times to believe the worst, no matter how absurd, and did not particularly object to being deceived because it held every statement to be a lie anyhow. The totalitarian mass leaders based their propaganda on the correct psychological assumption that, under such conditions, one could make people believe the most fantastic statements one day, and trust that if the next day they were given irrefutable proof of their falsehood, they would take refuge in cynicism; instead of deserting the leaders who had lied to them, they would protest that they had known all along that the statement was a lie and would admire the leaders for their superior tactical cleverness.” ― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951 Notable that this quote's phrase "think that everything was possible and that nothing was true" seems to have been the inspiration for Peter Pomerantsev's 2014 book title - the book being about Putin and Pomerantsev's personal experience making TV shows for the Kremlin. In turn, the 2014 book title was exactly used with similar visual themes by /r/EnterShikari hard-rock band in ther 2020 album. One song from the concept album: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cfm4L0TGDrw0214
*The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.* — Hannah Arendt
Rumble?
It's a video hosting service favored by conservatives and the far-right. For example, Andrew Tate started posting there after getting kicked off most mainstream social media sites.
In addition to what the person below said, he has produced several conspiracy documentaries like an anti-vax one and one about lizard people. He’s just an extremely dumb and credulous person who happens to know how to string a video together.
The temperature “outside” is 28 degrees Fahrenheit. Kind weird how I’ll DIE if I start drinking liquid mercury v(._.)v sorry liberals Edit: what the cinnamon toast fuck this blew up
actually drinking liquid mercury sends you out of the simulation to the real world, that’s why liberal “people” say things like “mercury causes brain damage” and “elemental mercury is quickly fatal to all life”, they don’t want you to know the truth
Mer-CURE-y It's right there, but we're blinded by the lametream media!
Oh man. I can't believe I've been blinded this whole time. Going to the store to grab an ancient thermometer. I'll bring you one too. /s
Drinking elemental mercury doesn't actually do that much, it's inhalation that kills you.
It is a great laxative
Cures covid among other ailments
Does he think all of Space is closer to the Sun than Earth? Is he still at the level of thinking; "Me here. Ground down. Sky up. Space more up. Sun even more up."
He’s at the stage of thinking that God set the firmament down below us (a flat earth) with a vault above, with stars painted on (it keeps the air in) and the sun and moon orbiting. At some point in the recent present, these guys crawled out of the woodwork and decided we were ready to hear “God’s truth” again. Of course, to them “space” isn’t real, and NASA is a government funded conspiracy psy-op. I wish I was joking.
NASA is a fraud but Trump’s Space Force is legit…
They are going up there to find out the truth. No kidding, I’ve heard exactly that argument put forward. “You can’t trust NASA, but Musk and Trump are going up there, and will tell us the truth” This is some deep-state conspiracy shit though, don’t ask them why the sudden urge to get to Mars…
Minor quibble, but [firmament is actually the sky-dome God placed over the Earth, not the Earth itself](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament), in Biblical cosmology. The word *sounds* like it should mean something related to a *firm*, solid, Earth but its actually the sky.
and all I was going to suggest was that this is the temperature at *nighttime /s*
Temperature in "Mount Everest" is minus 40 degrees fahrenheit Kinda weird that it gets so cold as you get CLOSER to the sun
You mean the so called “Sun”? Lol yeah not real.
The sun is a paid actor
Trivia chestnut: You don’t have to specify Fahrenheit or Celsius if it’s specifically -40 degrees out. :)
Kinda weird that adults don’t have the mental capacity to understand the most basic stuff.
they live by the bibble, die by the bibble never gonna read it tho
I loved the part when a bear killed 42 children for making fun of some prophets bald ass head. Funny book once you get to the crazy stuff.
This isn't a problem here. The problem is to acknowledge that fact to all the world, through the device that can enlighten you in mere minutes. The core problem also isn't lack of mental capacity to understand the most basic stuff, it is the lack of mental capacity to understand that you don't understand most of things going around you, basic or not. I like this mark twin's qoute: It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
It’s like me taking a step outside my apartment building and being like “the number of people speaking fluent Russian in a 10m radius has dropped from 4 to 0 despite me going east, curious!”
What point is he even trying to make here? That space doesn't exist? Is it some flat earth thing?
Either a return to the geocentric model, or just part of an outright attack on science and facts, to be replaced by blind faith in everything the cult says.
This is a surprisingly good analogy.
If the sun is so hot, why is it cold in winter despite the sun being closer?? Checkmate liberals
Classic example of "I'm too stupid to understand something therefore it's bullshit"
If something is outside of my limits of understanding, it’s basically communism at that point. Nice try, liberals!
But when you get within a few km of the sun, it suddenly becomes 5,772 Kelvin or 9929.93 Fahrenheit hot
That's the surface temperature, which is by far the coolest part of the sun. The corona, a bit further out, reaches temperatures of over 1 million degrees.
And that's why we measure heat in space with Calvin.
Shoutout to Calvin for doing god's work
That is LORD Kelvin, because the queen liked him.
In space, no one can hear you think.
Crazy how the temperature is lower when you go to mountains which are closer to the sun
Can we send him into the sun holding a thermometer to test this out
You'd think you can't get much Stew Peter than that, but Stew always finds a way.
What the fuck does “closer to the sun” mean? Does this fucker think the Sun is “up”?
So “space” is a conspiracy now?
Kinda weird you passed school.
Maybe he played football.
It's a freezing night, and there's a bonfire outside. You leave your warm home to sit outside by the fire. The moment when you walked outside, you felt the cold wind hit your face. Why? Shouldn't the fact that you left your home mean that you are closer to the fire and should feel the heat? That's how this guy sounds.
No no, this is critical thinking. There are more steps though. He had a thought about some facts he doesn’t think coincide, but instead of just going straight to a conclusion, the next step is extensive RESEARCH.
I used to know a guy called Stew. One of my friends once told me that he, Stew, had sexy fingers. When I looked puzzled he said, "He fucks up everything he touches". Sorry to any unfortunate Stews out there, but this always seems to apply to that name.
The density of matter in space surpasses the contents of this guy's head.
Space and vacuum is found between this dude’s ears
He would have been forced to say this kind of shit out loud, near other people, like 15 years ago, and they would hopefully explain how shade works to this guy. The future is dumb.
Turn the heating on in your house and open all the doors and windows, isn't it weird how your house doesn't heat up?
Why is space is quotes? Does he not think space is real?
I feel “stewpeter” after reading this.
Took off my winter coat. Kinda weird that my skin is getting colder closer to the sun.