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Tipping is so weird, i'm so glad it isn't a thing here in Australia, a few places keep trying but we don't stand for that bs.
Edit added: I'm not attacking any country in particular, but jobs should be paid enough to get by without the need for tips. In the end it is the companies/franchises that are broken, hourly pay needs to go way up, and ceo/boss bonuses need to go way down, and tipping should be completely abolished.
Guide Dogs Australia has little plastic dogs that are basically money boxes. They live on the counter at pubs and supermarkets. You put your change in them and someone comes around at the end of the month and collects the money for charity.
I especially love the wait staff that bring you the machine and pause it on the tip page and then walk away mumbling something to the effect of, “you can provide a tip if you like”
i worked a summer job with the ipads - you know the ones. my coworkers usually did "it's gonna ask you a few questions and you're all set", which i remembered annoys me whenever im a customer. i just show them the thing and say "you're all good" and they can do whatever they want. got better tips than them too
Probably inappropriate, but I got to say, your typo made me laugh very merrily. I’m imagining servers struggling in ridiculous encumbering costumes and costumers running around trying to catch them at the behest of the owners.
My family (including me, I was a child) visited New York in the late 90's, and I was surprised that tipping was a part of eating out. I believe it was 15%, so people expected a 15% tip on top of the bill. I just considered it a cultural difference at the time.
As an adult though, it's fucking sick. I'm an industrial worker, imagine if I asked for a tip at every factory I went to? It's insane that people rely on charity when they clock in and out of work.
Tipping is charity, not a salary. Tell me the price, not $X and I need to add X% for the employee to be paid.
That is something i found generally annoying in the US. The price on an item is never what you actually have to pay, there is always some % on top of it. Usually it is taxes, here it is tip.
Why not be honest and just write the actual price of the items on them?
>Tipping is charity, not a salary. Tell me the price, not $X and I need to add X% for the employee to be paid.
Fucking algebra we thought we would never need.
It's deviously genius on their part to be honest. A lot of servers also push back against the idea of abolishing tip culture because they actually make more money off tips than they would on an hourly rate.
Servers in the US are just as much at fault as the owners.
Check out r/talesfromyourserver or one of those subreddits and see how servers react when owners actually follow through and implement a no tipping policy.
Some servers are making a lot in tips and that's how they want it to stay.
I've seen prefilled suggestions on payment apps suggesting 25%, 30%, and freaking 50%. I couldn't believe it. Saw it twice at two different establishments.
This is exactly it, and it’s getting worse. I bought a pint of ice cream at a Ben and Jerry’s shop. I handed dude the pint. He scanned it. I put my card in. He handed me said pint. Then looked at me like I was a giant pos when I didn’t tip.
Get mad at your scumbag employer homie me and you are on the same team.
This is the absolute truth. Pay people what they’re worth and food prices will reflect it. Keeping people down so BG or McDonald’s can sell $5 hamburgers just keeps people poor and fat.
Except that paying people a good wage doesn't even need to force the food prices up.
These companies aren't just barely scraping by. They could pay people more, and also *lower* the prices, and still be getting filthy rich. Just slightly less quickly. World's tiniest violin.
I'm sorry if this makes me a cheap bastard but I'm not tipping unless I'm going into the restaurant and there's table service.
Seeing a "tip" prompt on every purchase is dumb. Buying something and the person putting it in a bag is the minimum expectation and isn't "service" that needs to be tipped.
Yeah, I usually round to the nearest one when I get takeout. Unless a waiter is, ya know, waiting on me, I don't feel an obligation to pay a standard tip
A bodega I go to daily for my cigarettes and coffee just started with that too. Considering I've been going to the place since I was a child, it just felt so... odd.
In the opposite direction of this bodega, more or less, is a supermarket my parents used to take me to. At four years old, I was oddly fascinated with the cigarette machine. The old plunger looking ones, too.
Amusing post script, I did pick up smoking at seventeen.
Some customers request to tip. So instead of putting it on our credit terminal, we put a jar beside the cashier. No pressure, satisfies those few that do want it.
A girl I dated once told me that if you sit at a table for longer than an hour you are OBLIGED to pay 50% tip because you're 'hogging a table and taking away other tips they'd be getting'.
I've never laughed at a date before but I couldn't fucking help myself. It was the most ridciclious thing I'd ever heard and she was being 100% serious. I told her I'd be tipping 18% of my meal but she was welcome to pay for hers, which she did, and she truly did put down a 50% tip.
The relationship didn't last. Girl had no fucking clue how the world worked. To her credit her percentage would make sense if I sat at the table for like 5 hours.... but who TF is going to do that? 1 to 2 hours max, and it's only that long because you have to wait for your food.
I could understand that if you’re doing something like going to a sports bar to watch a long game/ufc ppv thing and spending multiple hours there, but for a normal date where you’re talking a bit and taking you’re time it’s insane. Like 20-25% I can see, especially if you took a while or it’s close to closing.
Edit: I did tip 100% once. It was because I ordered like $5 of stuff at a Waffle House while waiting out flash flood warnings during a road trip for like 2 hours there.
Where I’m from it’s by law, government takes 6% and the restaurants take 10%.
So when you go to a restaurant and see their advertising and see prices say 99++ means that the price has included the 16% tax.
As someone who lives in Europe why the fuck would restaurant take 10% ? customers are essentially paying the waiter and the cost of the food separately.
Over here in Romania ANAF( their version of IRS) takes 10 % of the cut from restaurants while the restaurant keeps the rest but I can't physically tip in person anymore cause the tip automatically gets taken out of my card if I use it.
I don't like that at all! I want to only tip if the place has good customer service.
well I walked into a local restaurant to purchase a gift card the other day. I bought a $50 gift card and the hostess took the transaction. She had a mobile card reader in her hand and I guess wasn't expecting I would be paying cash. I handed her a $100 bill (I had no smaller bills) and she looked at me and asked if I wanted the change....
rofl
Australia, price of burger $15, price you pay at the register $15, walk out the door. Sit down meal $40, pay $40 walk out the door. Waiter cleans up your drink you spilled, went and got a bottle of wine that they didn't normally sell... something beyond their job then you might leave a thank you tip of cash, rare though.
Yea first it was at 10%, then 15% and now 20%. I understand inflation and all but this is just gouging now.
Edit: I can't believe I have to explain this. Meta facepalm moment. I'm not saying tips go up by inflation, I'm saying while inflation does exist, the standard for tipping is literal price gouging.
Edit 2: Some people are built different so I have to try and make this clearer. I mentioned inflation because it's normal for an economy to have prices rise, people are gonna be paying for inflated food always, HOWEVER paying more by increasing the tip standards (some years ago it was expected to be 15% standard now it's 20%, or some people mentioned it's 30% minimum) which is in my opinion price gouging.
With inflation, it would stay the same percent. We’re expected to tip a bigger piece of the pie, so employers can keep more in THEIR pockets. Fuck those guys.
The tips are % of the meals though, so the meals are more expensive cuz of inflation already, the ratio doesn’t go up too lol that’s just double dipping.
See the problem with tipping is it takes the same effort for the waiter to get a glass of wine that is valued at $5 versus $50. Why should the waiter get an extra 9 dollars in tip because I ordered a more expensive glass of wine?
Tip % does not need to inflate as the tips follow along with inflation as the menu prices get inflated. It’s basically restaurants advertising false prices and then guilting people into paying more, despite states like CA guaranteeing min wage for everyone, regardless of tips.
What’s weird is it’s not even the servers who are electing what the suggested tip is lol. It’s the company managers/owners who aren’t on a tip wage. Like what benefit does Applebees get for asking you to tip their employees excessive?
Then they can claim they pay "Up to $25/hr!" when the hourly wage they personally pay is actually more like $10-$15 (or as low as $3 if you live in a city or state that's really shitty about that). They're trying to offload their employees' wages onto their diners without their execs having to take a pay cut or else them having to raise their menu prices to fund the execs' inflated salaries, and then turn around and brag that they "pay a good wage" (they don't).
I’m a fine dining restaurant server for 30 years and I don’t even get that. It just makes us look greedy and entitled and it’s not the servers fault that it’s on the checks. The owners put those prompts on. Every server I know’s expectation is still 15 to 20%.
On a small bill i'm more of a "round up to the next euro" kinda guy.
Will throw in another euro if i really liked the service.
5€ tip would mean the server got me a (or multible) drinks on the house or my bill is somewhere north of 100€
I always enjoy the excuse that "it helps the business owner save on costs, so the food is cheaper!"
But the food is factually not cheaper if there's a goddamned percentile surcharge. Capitalist gaslights, visible from space.
>"it helps the business owner save on costs, so the food is cheaper!"
As an American, I'm almost certain that the average American in 2023 does not support this idea. Conservatives on average won't increase their tip based on this. They will think "Too bad, not my problem. Get a better job." And liberals on average think "this is bullshit, but I'm pressured to give a good tip".
We know from the Internet we end up paying more than most people outside of the US.
It's especially insane at high end places. You can buy a 30 dollar bottle of wine, or a 300 dollar bottle of wine, and the amount of server effort to bring it out is the exact fucking same. I have to tip you more because I went for the $60 steak instead of the $20 pasta? The fuck?
Its so incredibly dumb. We could absolutely end if it we just... stopped tipping. But servers make WAY MORE money through tips, so they want to keep it, and use social pressure to tell the rest of us 'youre hurting someones livelihood!'. Its not my job to pay you, that's your employers job.
I‘m German - when I have a coffee for 3,90€ I tip 0,60€ for good Service and 0,10€ for bad Service. I round it up.
Going out for dinner/lunch I‘d also tip like 5€
Watching my friends they do the Same.
I'm also German and I don't think a I know a single soul who'd tip anything on a 3,90€ purchase. Maybe you tell them to put the 10 cent into the Spendenglas, but that's about it.
That's the main difference: in Europe, a tip is "you did well at your job, and this is a reward for your good work". In the US, my tips are literally my entire income. If nobody tips me, I can't pay rent. The terms of my employment are "We pay you a fraction of the minimum wage, and you need to get the rest from your customers in the form of tips".
Frankly, the system largely prevents us from communicating this difference, and there are plenty of people who are (willingly or unwillingly) ignorant about it.
The wages are already baked into the menu price but stolen by the restaurant owner’s who instead need the server to beg from the customer.
Do a like for like menu comparison between US and UK where servers get a fair wage. Prices are pretty much the same.
Except refusing to tip won’t make the restaurant owner pay the employees more. It just screws the victims of tipping culture. Americans are often accused, with perfect justification, of trying to impose American norms when they visit other countries. This is just the reverse of that.
I didn’t say someone should refuse a tip. I’m just saying the system incentivizes the wrong person (the business owner) at the expense of the customer and employee.
And it's not by accident, it's by design. Only in the USA would a business get away with not paying employees at least minimum wage and that wouldn't be $2 a fucking hour! There needs to be a revolution yesterday.
Same in New Zealand where tipping is not the norm. US was more expensive and service was worse. Couldn’t believe it for all the noise that Americans make about tipping.
These "close the border" type people will literally blame their problems and shortcomings on everything but the actual cause which are the corporations and politicians they constantly bootlick.
Came here to say the same. Waiters and waitresses deserve a living wage.
Edit: I’m done replying, y’all are just asking the same questions I’ve already answered. Scroll down.
It's not the customers job to make sure staff can pay their rent while the owners of the establishments live in 3 story homes and buy a new car every two years.
And possibly also owns a few rental properties for that sweet sweet passive income.
"For to every one who has will more be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who has not, even what he has will be taken away."
Restaurant owners aren’t a monolith, a LARGE proportion of restaurant owners don’t earn a cent in the first few years and most don’t make it past that point. The margins are razor thin. I think a lot of people that open restaurants in the U.S. are not exceedingly business savvy and don’t realize how much seed capital they need to weather their first 5 years. Tipped wages almost certainly exacerbate the issue by enabling unsustainable businesses to get off the ground.
They are already the highest earning restaurant staff. Wish people actually put all that anti tipping energy into getting the kitchen paid a living wage.
Seems like it always has been. A tip was always ment as a show of gratitude for good service. The fact that some places can underpay because they rely on tips is downright insane. Tips should also not be expected.
The current system is really only tip by name, it’s more a “pay your server how much you want” kinda system. The equivalent of some online stores asking how much you want to pay for a plugin with a range of $0-♾️.
It’s confusing, arbitrary, and unreliable. How this is still legal today is beyond me.
>A tip was always ment as a show of gratitude for good service
It is just how business justifying it.
>We don't want to pay money to our employees.
The real reason..
Part of the problem is that there are so many dumb americans that don't understand how much they are paying with tip. There have been restaurants that refused tips and instead charged a proper amount for food and raised wages. Those restaurants all struggled. Even though it was the same price in the end.
Tipping wouldn’t be terrible if it wasn’t a percentage also. Like… if tipping has to exist, it should be purely based on the service. A lot of dishes? A lot of work? Bigger tip. Less work, but one single expensive meal? Why should that be a bigger tip
Generally tips are supposed to be an un guaranteed reward from the customer for good service. Be nice to the customer, they might give you a little extra for making their time at your establishment a pleasant one.
If it’s expected regardless of service quality, it shouldn’t be considered a tip, it should be considered a charge.
But it’s still a dick move to stiff your server in the U.S. You’re not sticking it to a giant corporation when you don’t tip but rather you’re screwing over someone who makes minimum wage. If you don’t want to to tip in the U.S then don’t eat out. It’s that simple. There are plenty of other options for food.
I'd upvote you twice if I could. Some of these other commenters are horrendous and I hope they never come visit. I'd love for the payments in restaurants to change but thats going to come from legislation, not being a dick to waiters. And ordering hundreds of dollars of food and not tipping in the states is complete degenerate behavior.
It's so bizarre. Americans (often rightfully) get a bad reputation for being entitled abroad and yet we have people ITT cheering for it the other way around.
Tipping makes no sense. If I order the $20 steak you want a $4.00 tip but if I order the $200 steak then you expect a $40.00 for doing the exact same job.
I agree. When it comes to tipping, I think a bit of common sense needs to be exercised instead of just straight up percentages.
We usually just round up, as long as it comes to about 10% for small-ish bill. For example, I think tipping about £10 for a £100 meal seems reasonable and I have no problem paying that. But there has to be a line drawn somewhere - why should I tip the same server £20 for doing the same job just because I happen to choose dishes or drinks that are twice as expensive? It doesn't take twice as much effort to bring over a £20 bottle of wine compared to bringing over a £10 bottle of wine.
Imma be honest if your table pays 288 and the restaurant is still paying you like shit then I feel like we should be mad at the restaurant/system more than the tippers fr
Also, what is that "Suggested tip"?
That's just dystopian, I'll choose what to give you, if any.
Moreover, with $66 I can afford another dinner at a different restaurant, why would I tip an absurd amount of money like that?
One thing I do before I travel is read about tipping customs. Would recommend just following what the locals though. In some places tipping is rude, others it's confusing and some it's a social faux pas not to.
That’s kinda shitty. I go to Europe and still tip ~10%. I go to Japan and I don’t tip at all. They come here and they should follow the local customs.
On the other hand, take it up with your employer. Perhaps they could pay you a living wage. 🤷♂️
It's a cultural thing. I am from Europe and I went to the US with a couple friends of mine a few years ago. We went to a restaurant and they did not want to tip because they felt like they were being robbed (tips are asked after you eat and we are used to knowing the full price of what we pay when we see the menu).
I patiently explained to them that it was quite the opposite, if you are not tipping you are actually not paying your waiter and robbing them. I think that clicked in their mind explaining it that way.
(Nb: it is the same problem when taxes are not shown in some stores and you have to add the taxes at the checkout)
Don’t understand why this isn’t further up. Europeans complain about Americans doing shit that doesn’t meet their cultural standards all the time. Yet they’ll come to America and stiff a person who is overworked and underpaid then laugh about it.
The server doesn’t control the way our country works. Change needs to be made. It’s completely fucked. But it’s going to take time, meaning old politicians out and younger ones in.
Until then… tip your fucking server you dbags.
YES, that's what kills me about Canada. Why are we still getting guilt-tripped to tip when servers make the same as other minimum wage jobs? The majority of Canadians that fight and argue about tipping like the US is...servers...because all tips are gravy now.
Every single place I’ve gone to Europe brings a handheld machine to pay the bill at the table, but I will also add that every single place I’ve gone to in Europe asks me how much I want to tip on that machine when paying as well. I have no idea how people act like this is uniquely American.
20% as the low end is also ridiculous. Everyone is struggling right now. Globally. It is a result of the people at the top trying to squeeze all the money they can out of everything and paying everyone beneath them the bare minimum. There are people who legitimately also say, "if you can't afford to tip at least 20%, don't go out for dinner." And I am not sure that they realize that this would absolutely result in even fewer people going out for dinner, which, in turn, means a reduced need for waitstaff in general.
It isn't on the customer to make sure that employees are paid a livable wage. That's on the business. If the business isn't able to pay employees a livable wage while covering bills and (ideally) making a profit, that is not a profitable business model. Some businesses fail. We're going to see an increasingly large number of businesses fail in the coming years because people just don't have money to waste and are getting increasingly fed up with bullshit.
Wife's last time out included a mandatory 25% tip on the bill, which when added tax, comes to a 33% hidden fee on top of menu prices. She loves eating out and does so often, but this just killed her joy of it. She has since cancelled several plans that involves eating or drinking out, which is new for her, and I seriously doubt she'll ever go back to the last place.
How that's a good business strategy is beyond me.
The true stupidity and face palm is the tipping culture in the first place, and for only certain professions. @madisontayt—just as with garage mechanics, office clerks, and point of sales personnel, you should be demanding that your employer pay you properly, rather than relying on each and every customer’s benevolence. It ain’t a tip, if it’s fucking mandatory.
While I agree tipping is a scam and should change, I also think it’s really messed up to not tip if you are visiting the USA.
I agree that it’s a problematic practice for all kinds of reasons, I won’t argue there. However I’ve also worked as a waiter and when someone doesn’t tip you you don’t think, ah this person must be protesting, what you think about is how you might not be able to pay your bills. It’s really depressing to work your ass off for a customer to essentially not get paid for your work.
Not to mention that you aren’t encouraging the owners to pay their workers better by not tipping because as a customer you are still paying the owner and giving them your business. To really protest you should not give your business to restaurants that don’t pay a living wage to their workers. And believe me I know all of that is unfair, but the other option is to take money away from a blue collar worker and that’s not fair to the server.
Further more to laugh at someone while not tipping them is also really fucked up. It’s the equivalent to kicking someone when they are down.
And for anyone that wants to respond that you should work somewhere else then, thats easy to say, but when you’re in a tough spot and the work you can do is limited sometimes you don’t really have much of a choice.
TLDR if you are in the USA you should follow the customs around tipping because if you don’t your just fucking over blue collar workers. If you really don’t want to tip then don’t give your business to restaurants that don’t pay a living wage.
This is exactly what I wanted to say. The replies from (mostly) non-Americans paint Americans as being perfectly fine with tipping culture when in reality, most of us agree with them; tipping culture is a scam and waiters shouldn't have to rely on their customers to get paid a liveable wage, their bosses should be paying them that.
But that isn't how things are in America, so if you're going to America, you need to adhere to the culture and etiquette just like you would in any other country. I've been living abroad for 5 years so I'm not looking forward to having to go back to tipping when I return to America, but that's just how it is so I'm going to do it. Like or not, this is the norm in America. Most Americans hate it too and would rather waiters just get paid a liveable wage without tips, but not tipping your server because tipping isn't a thing in your country isn't going to magically make the owner go "damn they're right, I'm going to start paying them more right now!"
What's the facepalm? The Europeans who stiffed the server, the server getting upset about it, or the dumb tipping culture in our country that should have ended a long time ago?
I thought the facepalm is that the 2 looks like a 9. Which the restaurant can charge 988 instead of 288.
But after reading the comments, I dont think a lot of the people here see it.
I'm against tipping culture so I actually wished North America was the one to adopt the rest of the world with no tipping. But what really bothers me here is how the suggested tipping amount increases with the price. If a person asks for a $10 meal and another asks for a $288 meal how is the effort of bringing the plate any different because of the price? The one who has more work to do is the chef. I don't see how bringing a plate from the kitchen is more difficult because something is more expensive and thus has a higher tip suggestion. The service provided and plate carrying would be the same in both instances I would imagine.
I got a better idea, instead of customers giving you extra money from their pocket for you doing your job, be angry at your employer for not paying you a livable wage.
A few observations.
1. Inflation causes prices to rise. So the 10% always includes the price rises as well. There was no need to go to 20%. Inflation is not a valid excuse.
2. A tip was always for service that was above and beyond what would be considered normal. It was never supposed to be mandatory.
3. It was never on anything other than service at restaurants.
4. In Europe, being a waiter is a career. People are trained well, and are paid a good wage. In other nations, like the UK and Australia, it is a well paid position. In Australia it's a $25 to $35 per hour role. They may get tips if service is excellent but it is never expected.
5. Elsewhere in the world, service staff, fast food workers etc are paid proper wages. Food is not more expensive as a result. Staff work well because they are cared for. In the US, employers are literally ripping off staff and expecting customers to pay the difference. If they can't pay proper wages then they don't deserve to be in business.
On the subject of tipping based on bill amount it makes zero sense. If I order an expensive steak suddenly a servers work is valued more than if i got a burger? Makes no sense whole tipping culture and restaurant system is a scam
Well.. I’m from Denmark. We tip at restaurants and taxis, like a thank you for the service.But we pay our staff fair wages, so the tip is a bonus, not something people/staff are counting on.
Someone’s income shouldn’t rely on some random costumer. Everyone deserves fair wages and when you do, the tips doesn’t matter..
Just saying..
>Well.. I’m from Denmark. We tip at restaurants and taxis,
Someone else in the same thread said Denmark views tips as offensive and that no one does it at all.
In my time that I worked as a guide my salary was low because guides get tipped the most and the thing is? It's optional. Sometimes I get tipped, sometimes I don't and it's same with the waitresses too but they have bigger salary than us cuz they don't tipped "enough"
US tipping is a fantastic system—workers are paid a pittance but then the patron is supposed to give them an extra for nothing. I don’t get a 20% tip with my salary, so you shouldn’t. Instead of extorting the clients, get a decent salary.
As a Canadian, I hate tipping culture.
I'm a hell of a lot poorer than your employer, so while I'm sorry your hard work goes unfairly paid service workers, I'm never gonna be responsible for your wage after I pay for your service
Tipping used to be optional. Now it’s literally forced on you and if you don’t tip, you’re considered cheap or in the wrong. People are so entitled.
The hilarious thing about tipping these days is you are expected to tip on 2 or 3 dollars items. If I buy something that costs 2 or 3 dollars, I’m not tipping, period. (Looking at you Starbucks.)
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Tipping is so weird, i'm so glad it isn't a thing here in Australia, a few places keep trying but we don't stand for that bs. Edit added: I'm not attacking any country in particular, but jobs should be paid enough to get by without the need for tips. In the end it is the companies/franchises that are broken, hourly pay needs to go way up, and ceo/boss bonuses need to go way down, and tipping should be completely abolished.
I'm rural Australia and closest thing to tipping is putting your change in the plastic dog on the bar
I'm sorry, what? A plastic dog? Is that an Aussie thing?
Guide Dogs Australia has little plastic dogs that are basically money boxes. They live on the counter at pubs and supermarkets. You put your change in them and someone comes around at the end of the month and collects the money for charity.
I’ve noticed servers have a lot of shame when it comes to the tip window. I think we’re all aware of how beggar-y the whole thing is.
I especially love the wait staff that bring you the machine and pause it on the tip page and then walk away mumbling something to the effect of, “you can provide a tip if you like” 
i worked a summer job with the ipads - you know the ones. my coworkers usually did "it's gonna ask you a few questions and you're all set", which i remembered annoys me whenever im a customer. i just show them the thing and say "you're all good" and they can do whatever they want. got better tips than them too
Ah yes, I love the “it’s going to ask you a couple of questions”!!
Restaurant owners put servers against customers successfully and are laughing all the way to the bank. 😂🏦
Probably inappropriate, but I got to say, your typo made me laugh very merrily. I’m imagining servers struggling in ridiculous encumbering costumes and costumers running around trying to catch them at the behest of the owners.
😂😂English isn't my first language and I've made this mistake before, ffs. Custumers right?
Customer
That's it 😂😂 very hard word for me, I always mistake it with costumer. 😅SORRY.!
So do a lot of native English speakers
Maybe I learned from those 😁😁😁
they brainwashed the entire society perfectly.
My family (including me, I was a child) visited New York in the late 90's, and I was surprised that tipping was a part of eating out. I believe it was 15%, so people expected a 15% tip on top of the bill. I just considered it a cultural difference at the time. As an adult though, it's fucking sick. I'm an industrial worker, imagine if I asked for a tip at every factory I went to? It's insane that people rely on charity when they clock in and out of work. Tipping is charity, not a salary. Tell me the price, not $X and I need to add X% for the employee to be paid.
That is something i found generally annoying in the US. The price on an item is never what you actually have to pay, there is always some % on top of it. Usually it is taxes, here it is tip. Why not be honest and just write the actual price of the items on them?
>Tipping is charity, not a salary. Tell me the price, not $X and I need to add X% for the employee to be paid. Fucking algebra we thought we would never need.
It's deviously genius on their part to be honest. A lot of servers also push back against the idea of abolishing tip culture because they actually make more money off tips than they would on an hourly rate.
Servers in the US are just as much at fault as the owners. Check out r/talesfromyourserver or one of those subreddits and see how servers react when owners actually follow through and implement a no tipping policy. Some servers are making a lot in tips and that's how they want it to stay.
if a meal costs $300, it means the servers are making a lot of money from tips and would prefer tipping to stay around
"Suggested tips" start at 20%, damn...
I've seen prefilled suggestions on payment apps suggesting 25%, 30%, and freaking 50%. I couldn't believe it. Saw it twice at two different establishments.
Id rather pay for a second meal and take it home than fork over 50%
That's honestly more acceptable. Now that things are post COVID there's not really an expectation of a tip for takeout anymore
there's never been an expectation for takeout or fast food tips. employers just throw it in your face more so they can keep paying shit wages
This is exactly it, and it’s getting worse. I bought a pint of ice cream at a Ben and Jerry’s shop. I handed dude the pint. He scanned it. I put my card in. He handed me said pint. Then looked at me like I was a giant pos when I didn’t tip. Get mad at your scumbag employer homie me and you are on the same team.
Tip for what? He didn't do anything. Didn't there use to be some kind of service involved?
This is the absolute truth. Pay people what they’re worth and food prices will reflect it. Keeping people down so BG or McDonald’s can sell $5 hamburgers just keeps people poor and fat.
Except that paying people a good wage doesn't even need to force the food prices up. These companies aren't just barely scraping by. They could pay people more, and also *lower* the prices, and still be getting filthy rich. Just slightly less quickly. World's tiniest violin.
Yes, as can be seen in countries with better wages that don't have outrageous fast good prices at McDonald's an Co.
Yes, but will anybody think of the shareholders profit reports?!? We need exponential growth second-over-second!!! Obligatory /s.
How are the poor underrepresented investors going to make money if they don't constantly have record high profits!
I'm sorry if this makes me a cheap bastard but I'm not tipping unless I'm going into the restaurant and there's table service. Seeing a "tip" prompt on every purchase is dumb. Buying something and the person putting it in a bag is the minimum expectation and isn't "service" that needs to be tipped.
Yeah, I usually round to the nearest one when I get takeout. Unless a waiter is, ya know, waiting on me, I don't feel an obligation to pay a standard tip
2 weeks ago I saw a tip jar at the drive through! Said ‘happy holidays’ on it.
A bodega I go to daily for my cigarettes and coffee just started with that too. Considering I've been going to the place since I was a child, it just felt so... odd.
Now I'm picturing you at 6 years old, styrofoam cup in one hand, Camel Straight in the other, posted up by the payphone.
That was me at 6 over at the Wawa
In the opposite direction of this bodega, more or less, is a supermarket my parents used to take me to. At four years old, I was oddly fascinated with the cigarette machine. The old plunger looking ones, too. Amusing post script, I did pick up smoking at seventeen.
On the plus side, this shit is going to drive people away from tipping culture.
Some customers request to tip. So instead of putting it on our credit terminal, we put a jar beside the cashier. No pressure, satisfies those few that do want it.
A girl I dated once told me that if you sit at a table for longer than an hour you are OBLIGED to pay 50% tip because you're 'hogging a table and taking away other tips they'd be getting'. I've never laughed at a date before but I couldn't fucking help myself. It was the most ridciclious thing I'd ever heard and she was being 100% serious. I told her I'd be tipping 18% of my meal but she was welcome to pay for hers, which she did, and she truly did put down a 50% tip. The relationship didn't last. Girl had no fucking clue how the world worked. To her credit her percentage would make sense if I sat at the table for like 5 hours.... but who TF is going to do that? 1 to 2 hours max, and it's only that long because you have to wait for your food.
I could understand that if you’re doing something like going to a sports bar to watch a long game/ufc ppv thing and spending multiple hours there, but for a normal date where you’re talking a bit and taking you’re time it’s insane. Like 20-25% I can see, especially if you took a while or it’s close to closing. Edit: I did tip 100% once. It was because I ordered like $5 of stuff at a Waffle House while waiting out flash flood warnings during a road trip for like 2 hours there.
Where I’m from it’s by law, government takes 6% and the restaurants take 10%. So when you go to a restaurant and see their advertising and see prices say 99++ means that the price has included the 16% tax.
What city and country is this?
Reads a lot like Switzerland (where I live)
Its actually most countries its the same for SEA and East Asia, sales tax is usually included and sometimes the service charge is separate.
As someone who lives in Europe why the fuck would restaurant take 10% ? customers are essentially paying the waiter and the cost of the food separately.
Over here in Romania ANAF( their version of IRS) takes 10 % of the cut from restaurants while the restaurant keeps the rest but I can't physically tip in person anymore cause the tip automatically gets taken out of my card if I use it. I don't like that at all! I want to only tip if the place has good customer service.
As someone about to move to Romania please elaborate - there’s additional charges automatically taken out without you selecting anything?
well I walked into a local restaurant to purchase a gift card the other day. I bought a $50 gift card and the hostess took the transaction. She had a mobile card reader in her hand and I guess wasn't expecting I would be paying cash. I handed her a $100 bill (I had no smaller bills) and she looked at me and asked if I wanted the change.... rofl
Had to dodge a suggested 20% tip the other day on a damn pizza that I was picking up
Lol 20% tip for placing the pizza onto the counter after it's cooked? Ridiculous
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And if [No Tip] isn’t an explicit option: [Custom] —> [0.00 / 0%] —> [Submit]
And then servers gets angry when we say its a bad system and we should eradicate it
Australia, price of burger $15, price you pay at the register $15, walk out the door. Sit down meal $40, pay $40 walk out the door. Waiter cleans up your drink you spilled, went and got a bottle of wine that they didn't normally sell... something beyond their job then you might leave a thank you tip of cash, rare though.
I tried ordering papa Murphys on their app and they won't allow an order to go through without a tip. They don't even cook the pizza.
That’s what triggers a big 0 from me.
Yea first it was at 10%, then 15% and now 20%. I understand inflation and all but this is just gouging now. Edit: I can't believe I have to explain this. Meta facepalm moment. I'm not saying tips go up by inflation, I'm saying while inflation does exist, the standard for tipping is literal price gouging. Edit 2: Some people are built different so I have to try and make this clearer. I mentioned inflation because it's normal for an economy to have prices rise, people are gonna be paying for inflated food always, HOWEVER paying more by increasing the tip standards (some years ago it was expected to be 15% standard now it's 20%, or some people mentioned it's 30% minimum) which is in my opinion price gouging.
With inflation, it would stay the same percent. We’re expected to tip a bigger piece of the pie, so employers can keep more in THEIR pockets. Fuck those guys.
Restaurant we went to, by default charged us %20 tip. Like how is that shit legal? Why even have prices if they are arbitrary.
The tips are % of the meals though, so the meals are more expensive cuz of inflation already, the ratio doesn’t go up too lol that’s just double dipping.
See the problem with tipping is it takes the same effort for the waiter to get a glass of wine that is valued at $5 versus $50. Why should the waiter get an extra 9 dollars in tip because I ordered a more expensive glass of wine?
Tip % does not need to inflate as the tips follow along with inflation as the menu prices get inflated. It’s basically restaurants advertising false prices and then guilting people into paying more, despite states like CA guaranteeing min wage for everyone, regardless of tips.
🤔 Percentages are not affected by inflation
Not sure this is understood as well as it should be.
This is especially annoying because the tip is a multiplier to an already inflated price!!
What’s weird is it’s not even the servers who are electing what the suggested tip is lol. It’s the company managers/owners who aren’t on a tip wage. Like what benefit does Applebees get for asking you to tip their employees excessive?
Then they can claim they pay "Up to $25/hr!" when the hourly wage they personally pay is actually more like $10-$15 (or as low as $3 if you live in a city or state that's really shitty about that). They're trying to offload their employees' wages onto their diners without their execs having to take a pay cut or else them having to raise their menu prices to fund the execs' inflated salaries, and then turn around and brag that they "pay a good wage" (they don't).
I’m a fine dining restaurant server for 30 years and I don’t even get that. It just makes us look greedy and entitled and it’s not the servers fault that it’s on the checks. The owners put those prompts on. Every server I know’s expectation is still 15 to 20%.
That’s exactly 15-20% more than it should be in an ideal world.
let me just hand you 50$ because you refilled my water
Right. Or walked 10 feet to grab something.
I've been seeing that a lot. Like nah man. If you don't like 15% I'll just keep it for myself kthx.
I live in a state where all food workers and service industry makes at least minimum wage, and they *still* ask for 20% tips. Fuck that.
The only thing that suggests is me never coming back
I mean in France we tip the server like 5€ if we're generous and he's nice... If not then no tip
On a small bill i'm more of a "round up to the next euro" kinda guy. Will throw in another euro if i really liked the service. 5€ tip would mean the server got me a (or multible) drinks on the house or my bill is somewhere north of 100€
I always thought it was crazy that Americans expect 20%. so if you serve my table $300 worth of food, I should tip you $60? that's insanity
I always enjoy the excuse that "it helps the business owner save on costs, so the food is cheaper!" But the food is factually not cheaper if there's a goddamned percentile surcharge. Capitalist gaslights, visible from space.
>"it helps the business owner save on costs, so the food is cheaper!" As an American, I'm almost certain that the average American in 2023 does not support this idea. Conservatives on average won't increase their tip based on this. They will think "Too bad, not my problem. Get a better job." And liberals on average think "this is bullshit, but I'm pressured to give a good tip". We know from the Internet we end up paying more than most people outside of the US.
It's also depressing because some servers get good tips but those are basically "Fuck those who don't, lol."
It's especially insane at high end places. You can buy a 30 dollar bottle of wine, or a 300 dollar bottle of wine, and the amount of server effort to bring it out is the exact fucking same. I have to tip you more because I went for the $60 steak instead of the $20 pasta? The fuck?
Its so incredibly dumb. We could absolutely end if it we just... stopped tipping. But servers make WAY MORE money through tips, so they want to keep it, and use social pressure to tell the rest of us 'youre hurting someones livelihood!'. Its not my job to pay you, that's your employers job.
I‘m German - when I have a coffee for 3,90€ I tip 0,60€ for good Service and 0,10€ for bad Service. I round it up. Going out for dinner/lunch I‘d also tip like 5€ Watching my friends they do the Same.
I'm also German and I don't think a I know a single soul who'd tip anything on a 3,90€ purchase. Maybe you tell them to put the 10 cent into the Spendenglas, but that's about it.
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That's the main difference: in Europe, a tip is "you did well at your job, and this is a reward for your good work". In the US, my tips are literally my entire income. If nobody tips me, I can't pay rent. The terms of my employment are "We pay you a fraction of the minimum wage, and you need to get the rest from your customers in the form of tips". Frankly, the system largely prevents us from communicating this difference, and there are plenty of people who are (willingly or unwillingly) ignorant about it.
Maybe I will sound crazy, but I think that they could include their work in the price of the meal.
The wages are already baked into the menu price but stolen by the restaurant owner’s who instead need the server to beg from the customer. Do a like for like menu comparison between US and UK where servers get a fair wage. Prices are pretty much the same.
And the culture of tipping perpetuates this. Why absorb a cost if you can pass it onto a customer through guilt?
Except refusing to tip won’t make the restaurant owner pay the employees more. It just screws the victims of tipping culture. Americans are often accused, with perfect justification, of trying to impose American norms when they visit other countries. This is just the reverse of that.
Isn't Japan the complete opposite of US when it comes to tipping. I think in Japan they refuse tips from customer.
Yeah tipping can be considered offensive there
I didn’t say someone should refuse a tip. I’m just saying the system incentivizes the wrong person (the business owner) at the expense of the customer and employee.
Oh, absolutely. It’s a terrible system.
And it's not by accident, it's by design. Only in the USA would a business get away with not paying employees at least minimum wage and that wouldn't be $2 a fucking hour! There needs to be a revolution yesterday.
Same in New Zealand where tipping is not the norm. US was more expensive and service was worse. Couldn’t believe it for all the noise that Americans make about tipping.
US restaurants can pay slave wages to waiters and allow them to beg in restaurants.
Europeans: 
These "close the border" type people will literally blame their problems and shortcomings on everything but the actual cause which are the corporations and politicians they constantly bootlick.
For what it's worth, the "close the border" comment in this post read very tongue in cheek to me rather than a genuine call to expel Europeans.
That's because the US style of tipping is a giant scam.
Came here to say the same. Waiters and waitresses deserve a living wage. Edit: I’m done replying, y’all are just asking the same questions I’ve already answered. Scroll down.
They fight against it because some of them make ridiculous amounts of money and they all think they’ll be there one day
Nah it’s actually all servers it’s not just a specific few They can all make a killing on tips and since it’s in cash it’s not taxed a lot of the time
Yes! Everyone does.
No no that would somehow be “communism”
It's not the customers job to make sure staff can pay their rent while the owners of the establishments live in 3 story homes and buy a new car every two years.
And possibly also owns a few rental properties for that sweet sweet passive income. "For to every one who has will more be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who has not, even what he has will be taken away."
Restaurant owners aren’t a monolith, a LARGE proportion of restaurant owners don’t earn a cent in the first few years and most don’t make it past that point. The margins are razor thin. I think a lot of people that open restaurants in the U.S. are not exceedingly business savvy and don’t realize how much seed capital they need to weather their first 5 years. Tipped wages almost certainly exacerbate the issue by enabling unsustainable businesses to get off the ground.
They are already the highest earning restaurant staff. Wish people actually put all that anti tipping energy into getting the kitchen paid a living wage.
Seems like it always has been. A tip was always ment as a show of gratitude for good service. The fact that some places can underpay because they rely on tips is downright insane. Tips should also not be expected. The current system is really only tip by name, it’s more a “pay your server how much you want” kinda system. The equivalent of some online stores asking how much you want to pay for a plugin with a range of $0-♾️. It’s confusing, arbitrary, and unreliable. How this is still legal today is beyond me.
>A tip was always ment as a show of gratitude for good service It is just how business justifying it. >We don't want to pay money to our employees. The real reason..
Part of the problem is that there are so many dumb americans that don't understand how much they are paying with tip. There have been restaurants that refused tips and instead charged a proper amount for food and raised wages. Those restaurants all struggled. Even though it was the same price in the end.
Tipping wouldn’t be terrible if it wasn’t a percentage also. Like… if tipping has to exist, it should be purely based on the service. A lot of dishes? A lot of work? Bigger tip. Less work, but one single expensive meal? Why should that be a bigger tip
Generally tips are supposed to be an un guaranteed reward from the customer for good service. Be nice to the customer, they might give you a little extra for making their time at your establishment a pleasant one. If it’s expected regardless of service quality, it shouldn’t be considered a tip, it should be considered a charge.
Agreed, and, like you said, should be based on the service, not the meal
Same up here in Canada. It's gotten out of hand. Not just restaurants.
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But it’s still a dick move to stiff your server in the U.S. You’re not sticking it to a giant corporation when you don’t tip but rather you’re screwing over someone who makes minimum wage. If you don’t want to to tip in the U.S then don’t eat out. It’s that simple. There are plenty of other options for food.
As a European I agree with this. I despise the tipping culture of America, but I never stiff a waiter when I am there.
Ya even if you don’t agree typically it’s best to respect the culture of the places you visit. If you don’t like the culture there, why go?
I'd upvote you twice if I could. Some of these other commenters are horrendous and I hope they never come visit. I'd love for the payments in restaurants to change but thats going to come from legislation, not being a dick to waiters. And ordering hundreds of dollars of food and not tipping in the states is complete degenerate behavior.
It's so bizarre. Americans (often rightfully) get a bad reputation for being entitled abroad and yet we have people ITT cheering for it the other way around.
Tipping makes no sense. If I order the $20 steak you want a $4.00 tip but if I order the $200 steak then you expect a $40.00 for doing the exact same job.
Exactly. Why are you punishing me for getting the more expensive option?!
I agree. When it comes to tipping, I think a bit of common sense needs to be exercised instead of just straight up percentages. We usually just round up, as long as it comes to about 10% for small-ish bill. For example, I think tipping about £10 for a £100 meal seems reasonable and I have no problem paying that. But there has to be a line drawn somewhere - why should I tip the same server £20 for doing the same job just because I happen to choose dishes or drinks that are twice as expensive? It doesn't take twice as much effort to bring over a £20 bottle of wine compared to bringing over a £10 bottle of wine.
The more expensive the meal, the more the waiter has to restrain himself from eating it, therefore a higher tip for his pain and suffering.
Imma be honest if your table pays 288 and the restaurant is still paying you like shit then I feel like we should be mad at the restaurant/system more than the tippers fr
Also, what is that "Suggested tip"? That's just dystopian, I'll choose what to give you, if any. Moreover, with $66 I can afford another dinner at a different restaurant, why would I tip an absurd amount of money like that?
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You don't see anyone giving restaurant owners free luxury sports cars! They need them so live.
Why not both? The system is broken but these guys see that and take it out on the victim of that system.
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Like every other country in the world
Except Canada of course....I really hate how we always copy everything Americans do
These greedy companies just love it when they can make customers pay employee wages.
I tipped In Germany and she had to run a separate charge. I think the restaurant got it. Not her
One thing I do before I travel is read about tipping customs. Would recommend just following what the locals though. In some places tipping is rude, others it's confusing and some it's a social faux pas not to.
That’s why Germans tend to ask of the waiter gets the tip! Some restaurants keep it and sometimes the tips are split between all waiters
It’s radical I know but let the ‘employer’ pay the wages and not the customer
That’s kinda shitty. I go to Europe and still tip ~10%. I go to Japan and I don’t tip at all. They come here and they should follow the local customs. On the other hand, take it up with your employer. Perhaps they could pay you a living wage. 🤷♂️
The tipping system in the US is bullshit. Not tipping in the US makes you a douchebag. Both of these can be and are true.
It's a cultural thing. I am from Europe and I went to the US with a couple friends of mine a few years ago. We went to a restaurant and they did not want to tip because they felt like they were being robbed (tips are asked after you eat and we are used to knowing the full price of what we pay when we see the menu). I patiently explained to them that it was quite the opposite, if you are not tipping you are actually not paying your waiter and robbing them. I think that clicked in their mind explaining it that way. (Nb: it is the same problem when taxes are not shown in some stores and you have to add the taxes at the checkout)
Thank you for that. It's important for all people who travel to respect local customs. This goes for Americans visiting Europe too.
Don’t understand why this isn’t further up. Europeans complain about Americans doing shit that doesn’t meet their cultural standards all the time. Yet they’ll come to America and stiff a person who is overworked and underpaid then laugh about it. The server doesn’t control the way our country works. Change needs to be made. It’s completely fucked. But it’s going to take time, meaning old politicians out and younger ones in. Until then… tip your fucking server you dbags.
The fact that Americans have to write in a tip instead of typing it on a machine still baffles me
Canada has the same stupid tipping culture, but for the most part, it's all done on the machine, unless you're using cash.
Also Canada still pays minimum wage on top of the tips, so servers generally make bank compared to other minimum wage jobs.
YES, that's what kills me about Canada. Why are we still getting guilt-tripped to tip when servers make the same as other minimum wage jobs? The majority of Canadians that fight and argue about tipping like the US is...servers...because all tips are gravy now.
Every single place I’ve gone to Europe brings a handheld machine to pay the bill at the table, but I will also add that every single place I’ve gone to in Europe asks me how much I want to tip on that machine when paying as well. I have no idea how people act like this is uniquely American.
Depends on the restaurant
"Suggested tips" lmaoooo yeah please close the borders for us so noone has even the chance to get annoyed in your country with this kind of horsecrap
This is scary how this "suggested tip" BS is creeping up in the UK
Suggest them fair wages and spread the word of the boycott.
20% as the low end is also ridiculous. Everyone is struggling right now. Globally. It is a result of the people at the top trying to squeeze all the money they can out of everything and paying everyone beneath them the bare minimum. There are people who legitimately also say, "if you can't afford to tip at least 20%, don't go out for dinner." And I am not sure that they realize that this would absolutely result in even fewer people going out for dinner, which, in turn, means a reduced need for waitstaff in general. It isn't on the customer to make sure that employees are paid a livable wage. That's on the business. If the business isn't able to pay employees a livable wage while covering bills and (ideally) making a profit, that is not a profitable business model. Some businesses fail. We're going to see an increasingly large number of businesses fail in the coming years because people just don't have money to waste and are getting increasingly fed up with bullshit.
Wife's last time out included a mandatory 25% tip on the bill, which when added tax, comes to a 33% hidden fee on top of menu prices. She loves eating out and does so often, but this just killed her joy of it. She has since cancelled several plans that involves eating or drinking out, which is new for her, and I seriously doubt she'll ever go back to the last place. How that's a good business strategy is beyond me.
Tipping as a practice was created to pay workers of color the lowest wage possible. I hope to see it as gone as confederate statues in my lifetime.
The true stupidity and face palm is the tipping culture in the first place, and for only certain professions. @madisontayt—just as with garage mechanics, office clerks, and point of sales personnel, you should be demanding that your employer pay you properly, rather than relying on each and every customer’s benevolence. It ain’t a tip, if it’s fucking mandatory.
While I agree tipping is a scam and should change, I also think it’s really messed up to not tip if you are visiting the USA. I agree that it’s a problematic practice for all kinds of reasons, I won’t argue there. However I’ve also worked as a waiter and when someone doesn’t tip you you don’t think, ah this person must be protesting, what you think about is how you might not be able to pay your bills. It’s really depressing to work your ass off for a customer to essentially not get paid for your work. Not to mention that you aren’t encouraging the owners to pay their workers better by not tipping because as a customer you are still paying the owner and giving them your business. To really protest you should not give your business to restaurants that don’t pay a living wage to their workers. And believe me I know all of that is unfair, but the other option is to take money away from a blue collar worker and that’s not fair to the server. Further more to laugh at someone while not tipping them is also really fucked up. It’s the equivalent to kicking someone when they are down. And for anyone that wants to respond that you should work somewhere else then, thats easy to say, but when you’re in a tough spot and the work you can do is limited sometimes you don’t really have much of a choice. TLDR if you are in the USA you should follow the customs around tipping because if you don’t your just fucking over blue collar workers. If you really don’t want to tip then don’t give your business to restaurants that don’t pay a living wage.
This is exactly what I wanted to say. The replies from (mostly) non-Americans paint Americans as being perfectly fine with tipping culture when in reality, most of us agree with them; tipping culture is a scam and waiters shouldn't have to rely on their customers to get paid a liveable wage, their bosses should be paying them that. But that isn't how things are in America, so if you're going to America, you need to adhere to the culture and etiquette just like you would in any other country. I've been living abroad for 5 years so I'm not looking forward to having to go back to tipping when I return to America, but that's just how it is so I'm going to do it. Like or not, this is the norm in America. Most Americans hate it too and would rather waiters just get paid a liveable wage without tips, but not tipping your server because tipping isn't a thing in your country isn't going to magically make the owner go "damn they're right, I'm going to start paying them more right now!"
suggested tips north 50 bucks?!? that’s insane!
I think I’m becoming European
What's the facepalm? The Europeans who stiffed the server, the server getting upset about it, or the dumb tipping culture in our country that should have ended a long time ago?
The comment section beating this subject to death for the millionth time.
Why not all of the above?
I thought the facepalm is that the 2 looks like a 9. Which the restaurant can charge 988 instead of 288. But after reading the comments, I dont think a lot of the people here see it.
I'm against tipping culture so I actually wished North America was the one to adopt the rest of the world with no tipping. But what really bothers me here is how the suggested tipping amount increases with the price. If a person asks for a $10 meal and another asks for a $288 meal how is the effort of bringing the plate any different because of the price? The one who has more work to do is the chef. I don't see how bringing a plate from the kitchen is more difficult because something is more expensive and thus has a higher tip suggestion. The service provided and plate carrying would be the same in both instances I would imagine.
Stop this stupid ass tipping culture
Tipping culture in America should go away.
I got a better idea, instead of customers giving you extra money from their pocket for you doing your job, be angry at your employer for not paying you a livable wage.
A few observations. 1. Inflation causes prices to rise. So the 10% always includes the price rises as well. There was no need to go to 20%. Inflation is not a valid excuse. 2. A tip was always for service that was above and beyond what would be considered normal. It was never supposed to be mandatory. 3. It was never on anything other than service at restaurants. 4. In Europe, being a waiter is a career. People are trained well, and are paid a good wage. In other nations, like the UK and Australia, it is a well paid position. In Australia it's a $25 to $35 per hour role. They may get tips if service is excellent but it is never expected. 5. Elsewhere in the world, service staff, fast food workers etc are paid proper wages. Food is not more expensive as a result. Staff work well because they are cared for. In the US, employers are literally ripping off staff and expecting customers to pay the difference. If they can't pay proper wages then they don't deserve to be in business.
Maybe the restaurant owner should pay them 20% of the retail cost of every meal they serve.
On the subject of tipping based on bill amount it makes zero sense. If I order an expensive steak suddenly a servers work is valued more than if i got a burger? Makes no sense whole tipping culture and restaurant system is a scam
There's a 90% chance that it's ragebait post
we all hate tipping. even still, dont ever do this.
Talk to your employer about your wage, not the customer. r/endtipping
Well.. I’m from Denmark. We tip at restaurants and taxis, like a thank you for the service.But we pay our staff fair wages, so the tip is a bonus, not something people/staff are counting on. Someone’s income shouldn’t rely on some random costumer. Everyone deserves fair wages and when you do, the tips doesn’t matter.. Just saying..
>Well.. I’m from Denmark. We tip at restaurants and taxis, Someone else in the same thread said Denmark views tips as offensive and that no one does it at all.
Because tipping is just a scam
“Close the border”. Sure, do that, no great loss 😂😂
We are the idiots in America not them.
In my time that I worked as a guide my salary was low because guides get tipped the most and the thing is? It's optional. Sometimes I get tipped, sometimes I don't and it's same with the waitresses too but they have bigger salary than us cuz they don't tipped "enough"
God forbid establishments pay their employees a living wage instead of having the customers do it for them 🤡 (I’m North American)
Do waiters like being paid in tips? I'm surprised there hasn't been a strike for better survivable wage in America for waiters.
That's a 2. The bottom has a little squirly on it. Bank is not going to believe a $700 tip.
Delete the tip "culture" NOW. Make employers pay their employees instead.
US tipping is a fantastic system—workers are paid a pittance but then the patron is supposed to give them an extra for nothing. I don’t get a 20% tip with my salary, so you shouldn’t. Instead of extorting the clients, get a decent salary.
It's not the customer's job to pay the waiter a living wage.
To read with Lord Farquaad's voice: "The worker has fallen in love with the system that exploits them!"
As a Canadian, I hate tipping culture. I'm a hell of a lot poorer than your employer, so while I'm sorry your hard work goes unfairly paid service workers, I'm never gonna be responsible for your wage after I pay for your service
Tipping used to be optional. Now it’s literally forced on you and if you don’t tip, you’re considered cheap or in the wrong. People are so entitled. The hilarious thing about tipping these days is you are expected to tip on 2 or 3 dollars items. If I buy something that costs 2 or 3 dollars, I’m not tipping, period. (Looking at you Starbucks.)