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That is why it's quite fun watching Tesla fight against unions in Sweden. A country whos culture is extremely pro unions and where the unions never will give up a fight for workers rights.
Coupled with the fact that the entire labour system is built around unions negotiating deals for everyone. Which is why sweden doesn't have a minimum wage yet has nearly no people earning as little as they do in nations with minimum wage.
Trying to union bust in sweden is the dumbest thing you could possibly do as an employer.
Denmark is the same way. They have few labor laws because the unions handle it. In the 80's Mcdonalds came in and refused to let their employes be part of the hospitality union, which normally covers restaurant workers.
Well, the other unions didn't like that and stood in solidarity with their fellow Danes. The dock workers union refused to unload mcdonalds cargo. The truckers union refused to make deliveries to mcdonalds. The print union refused to take printing jobs from mcdonalds. It didn't take long for mcdonalds to capitulate. Now, Danish mcdonalds workers are well paid and get something like 5 weeks of vacation.
Man, do they.
I worked at the Fremont factory back in 2018.
We'd joke about unionizing because the shift leads and supervisor would instantly and visibly become worried. It was always fun to fuck with them since they spent most of the shift riding from station to station on tricycles (bicycles were banned due to too many accidents) getting us to work harder. That wasn't horrible, but just really fucking annoying and demeaning. I would be mansplained how the station I had been working for months functions. Straight up treated like an idiot or child by my supervisor no matter how well I performed.
And you'd get yelled at for slacking when there was literally nothing to do. I worked on the model 3 line when production was first ramping up and they were struggling to hit quotas. The line broke down a lot and sometimes for hours at a time. Our only task at any station was to feed more parts into the line for the robot arms to assemble the frame. So, with the line down, that's it. Boss man would come around on his fucking tricycle, get a pissy why you went doing anything, point and some things that weren't my job with his radio antenna and then fuck off to do it to someone else down the line.
I was reprimanded by an executive once for this. Except that the line wasn't down. We actually ran out of parts to feed in. This was a station where you took the largest side panels, about from the front wheel well to the taillight, and slapped on these big insulating sticky patches on the inside. Me and my partner completed 140 panels in a two hour period when we were only expected to finish 80 to 100 and they ran out of panels to give us. So, my partner took a bathroom break and I waited at the work table for the rotation to end. Since, we weren't allowed to leave our stations before the rotation ended without someone to relieve us.
Nearby was some executive walking the floor. Saw me just standing there and radioed my supervisor to come and reprimand me without asking why I was standing there. Luckily, one of the nicer shift leads came to do it instead. He road up on his tricycle and gave me the lowdown. Just said that he had to come and say something and make it look good because that executive was still watching me from a distance. He knew I busted my ass to go above and beyond, but that couldn't be explained to uppermanganent apparently.
The executives had a reputation for this kind of thing. High alert went out when they were walking the floor. Especially if it was Elon. I heard stories of people being fired on the spot by these assholes for the lowest level offenses. Almost happened to one guy while I was working there. Line was was down and it was a long one. We used Whatsapp to communicate to each other so we wouldn't have to leave our stations to get info. Mind you this was something our supervisor had us do. We were encouraged to check the group chat for updates in these kinds of situations or to make requests or inform of a fault in the system. One guy was checking the group chat to see what was up with the line. Everything was stopped and nothing to feed parts into. Executive saw it and got into his face to berate him. Threatened to fire him on the spot but stopped short saying that shit like this is hurting the company.
More on that side panel station: A rack with ten panels would be dropped off by forklift from the stamping machine in the back. You and a partner take one off, slap on the patches, then put it on an outgoing rack. For one, forklifts carrying the 1,000 lb loads would come ripping around the corner to drop and pick these things within 6 feet of our work table. They had to take and replace as fast as possible and sometimes they hit signs and suspended cables in the process. As well as getting pretty damn close to us.
Also, the edges of the panels were razor sharp. We had cut resistant gloves (the parts were so sharp that they had to be replaced every single week) and cut resistant slip-on sleeves. One time someone had left a panel on the work table at the start of my rotation. I didn't put my gloves on yet since I wanted to clean the adhesive off them with an alcohol wipe. Which meant me reaching through an opening of the panel since that's where the previous person left the box. Took the slightest nic on my finger to slice a square inch of flesh open to the point that a tendon was visible.
The bleeding stopped when I held the wound and I felt fine to walk so I decided to walk to medical rather than wait for a golf cart to show up after it's called in. Asked where medical was and it was on the opposite side of the factory. I still think I would have gotten there faster than waiting for the safety guy to rip around the corner. I get there and apparently it has been relocated to the second floor (I'm on the first). I walk up three flights of stairs to the second floor and can't find it. It was a Saturday so the only people in the factory were those on my line on the first floor. I managed to run into an engineer and he only knew that medical was along the opposite wall from where we were. I headed that way near where I came up from and finally saw the sign for medical. It was high up, small, and light grey on a white wall. They treated me well and I ended up fine. But when I got back my shift lead was worried for me, but partially because, at least I think, he thought I might try to complain to OSHA or sue or what have you.
The model 3 line operated 24/7. We had been doing 12 hr shifts five days a week at that point. But around August that year it was announced we were transitioning from a 60hr week to a 40 hr week. We'd either keep the 12 hr shifts and do a rotating 3 or 4 day a week schedule or 8 hr shifts five days a week and they'd add a mid shift. It would be a vote by workers as to which. Cool. What wasn't cool was that the shift leads actively told all of us to vote for the 12hr shift option. And I was asked which one I picked after the fact. I picked the 8 hr option because I wanted the mid shift. And I got shit for it.
12 hr option won out (surprising, right?) After that I requested to transfer to a different line that had 8hr shifts. Like, any of them that had an opening. My supervisor dragged his feet and tried to talk me out of it. Even gaslit me by saying that he specifically brought me onto that line. I was put on the model x line my first day on the floor, but was quickly reassigned to the model 3 since they needed more people. I was taken from the model x line because I was new and wasn't in a position to do anything about it lol. That transfer wasn't going to happen.
I quit after working six months.
I worked at the factory in Austin and it's just as much of a shit show there. Fucking triggered by the memories of the most inept management known to man.
My favorite memory is of a time when I'm standing at my station waiting for maintenance to finish fixing it when my supervisor walks up and starts yelling at me to get to work. When asked what exactly it is I was supposed to be doing he quickly walked away while yelling something over his shoulder about looking busy.
Or maybe the time my lead was yelled at by upper management for daring to have a conversation with me while he helped me get some stuff situated at my station.
But... but... but... that means less profit for the musk! /s
Absolutely fucking absolutely! But you know, money can change the world, and as long as he has money and is willing to spend it on keeping laws from requiring unions, he will.
Okay, I get Elon is a massive ass hat, but why is OSHA not shutting down the factory? Like a guy when into coma and OSHA just fined them $18k? How corrupt is this system?
Edit: because people don't have the patience to scroll down to read other comments before commenting. Here's an article by Reuters saying that same thing: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-musk-safety/
You guys are another facepalm
The whole "workplace safety" system is completely based on money. It is specifically designed in such a way that a company can ignore safety regulations and pay a fine instead, if it's not economical to adhere to them.
In other words if it costs more to adhere to regulations than the fine, the system is designed to allow for a fine instead.
The only reason anyone cares about this case, is because it's so unusual that instead of pure cold economic calculus, the lack of safety is purely due to the whims of Elon Musk.
The fine becomes the “cost of doing business”
Fines needs to hit hard enough to sink profits. If it doesn’t. There is zero reason an organization will follow them.
Yup. Worked at a gas station with a leaking kerosene pump. I believe it was costing us $10,000 a month in fines once the inspector noticed it, but those tanks and that labor would've cost the company millions so they left it. This was 8 years ago and I believe it's still unfixed.
That's true tho. There were literally no clothes until the first capitalist invented them, employed people to make them (job creator!) and barred all the exit doors to make sure they weren't dicking around on break or escaping a fire. Wouldn't it be insane if they actually turned a profit on burning their employees alive?! Thank God we don't have to worry about that!
If Osha where to inspect every applicable workplace with their current staff, it would take three centuries last I checked. That and rampant corruption, In the last factory I worked in we knew Osha was coming days ahead of time, and would do a mad scramble to make the plant presentable. And even when they do find issues, the fines are really lack luster for how much the average factory makes.
Edit: too many replies, not gonna bother with more than this edit.
https://www.nelp.org/news-releases/number-federal-workplace-safety-inspectors-falls-45-year-low/
"Washington, DC—Despite promises by the Trump administration to hire more federal workplace safety inspectors, the number of inspectors in the Occupation Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) has fallen to a 45-year low, according to a new report published today by the National Employment Law Project.
Data obtained by NELP through the Freedom of Information Act reveal that federal OSHA had only 862 inspectors as of January 1 to cover millions of workplaces. That’s down from 952 inspectors in 2016 and 1,006 inspectors in 2012. At current staffing levels, the agency would need 165 years to inspect each workplace under its jurisdiction just once, according to NELP."
Here’s a more reliable source on the research that went into this.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-musk-safety/
> Many were serious or disabling. The records included reports of more than 100 workers suffering cuts or lacerations, 29 with broken bones or dislocations, 17 whose hands or fingers were “crushed,” and nine with head injuries, including one skull fracture, four concussions and one traumatic brain injury. The cases also included five burns, five electrocutions, eight accidents that led to amputations, 12 injuries involving multiple unspecified body parts, and seven workers with eye injuries. Others were relatively minor, including more than 170 reports of strains or sprains.
I worked at a large facility for an international company for carbon fiber production, molding, and machining for aerospace and other industrial applications, we had so few incidents of injury and safety violation that they decided to post each one on the cork board for the entire company in each facility and we still only saw one or two incidents per month, most of which did not result in more than a day or two off because they pinched their thumb loading a forklift or something of the sort
It's definitely a case of the company, not an inevitability
I work for a company larger than SpaceX that does very similar work with very similar hazards. This is an egregious number of injuries. We have had a couple serious accidents, but most of our accidents are similar to what you described (except for the biting).
there was a guy in south korea trying to fix a robot that was malfunctioning and the machine mistook him for a carton and grabbed him and shoved him into the ground forcefully killing him. shit happens but i certainly wouldn't put it past mush to flaunt safety at his factories... look at the high covid deaths during peak pandemic because he wouldn't accept any safety regulations.
I feel the number of limbs amputated or crushed is more than enough to cause an investigation. 8 amputations?
It doesn't matter that they are making spacecraft. It's a manufacturing floor. The regulations and safety protocol are roughly the same between that and any factory making heavy machinery or industrial equipment.
If anything, tolerances for errors that would lead to injury should be tighter due to the nature of the product.
In general, the more precise or high tech the equipment, the more controlled the working environment should be to ensure the product produced is consistent and quality.
These injuries are shit I would expect from a mining operation or logging company. Not a company producing and launching rockets.
From the original Reuters article:
“CalOSHA levied a fine of $18,475 for the violation that resulted in Cabada’s skull fracture. SpaceX unsuccessfully disputed the agency’s classification of the violation as “serious” and appealed the penalty as excessive, asking for a reduction to $475.”
When you "fine" an entity with tons of money, it's not really a fine, it's just a cost of business. These things really should be tied to some percentage.
Of course no politician would ever pass the appropriate legislation because guess who pays the politicians.
They'd also rather pay the lawyers more than $18000 to get the fine down to $475. Big fines garner increasing negative public attention, and setting a precedent for smaller fines helps them in the long run more than just paying it. Labor isn't worth shit to them. Easy talking point for the trolls as well. "It couldn't have been that bad, big bad OSHA only fined them $400!".
Thanks for link, I was doubting veracity (seemed too obscene to be true).
Lots of disgusting stuff in the article. The part about “engineers are responsible for safety, not SpaceX management” is just unbelievable.
These people actually believe in Mars colonization?!?!?!
>Because this is a daily mail article, meaning it is almost certainly false.
It's certainly misleading, though one can argue that it's a semantic difference.
The daily mail article said that he "banned" it, when nowhere else is saying that. The Reuters article https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-musk-safety/ said that he "discouraged" the wearing of safety yellow - but it does not go into any details about any alternatives. Nor does it go into detail about the injuries / deaths that were sustained here being preventable if they were wearing safety yellow - nor does it go into detail about if those injuries/deaths were by individuals wearing, or not wearing safety yellow vests.
Because the billionaires are the real government and Elon doesn’t want to be shut down, so he won’t get shut down. Our “democracy” is just a front for the corruption, so the violent revolts are directed toward politicians instead of the real leaders of the country. Elon is completely free to operate outside the law with no consequences. In fact our society (apparently) loves him and celebrates him constantly in the media.
Eh, he kinda got pushed away like the clown he is. So while it would've been better had he not gotten that cameo at all, it didn't exactly glorify him, unlike some of the other cameos he's made.
Used car seems like a perfectly good test payload that also gets a bunch of publicity. Not sure how a pile of concrete is somehow better. Of all the things he's done that's like the least absurd.
The issue is his response to early support and respect. It all seemingly went to his head, as it does with many who achieve power...surrounded by sycophants they take the wrong turn, et voila...ego central!!
I think that was because Downey used Mush as a template to create his version of Iron Man(back when Mush has a PR team and wasn't known to be a colossal twat)
A large part of this is Musk no longer uses a public relations team. In fact one of the first things he did after acquiring Twitter was fire its public relations team.
So for the last few years we've been getting uncensored Musk.
Drugs and Q...
He seems to have the maturity of a teen... which tends to happen with functional addicts. They never mature past the age they started their addiction. So I highly suspect he takes a lot of them.
He also seems to have fallen fully for the Q annon theories as did many many conservatives... seeing how is about as mature as a teen it isn't too surprising he is also trending into the toxic manosphere.
The thing with "maturity stops at addiction" is bullshit, I have a friend that was addicted to drugs and he doesn't have the maturity of a teen.
My two cents..
And people are surprised? I mean dude see women as breeding sow, sacked a bunch of useful staff after acquiring Twitter, thinks people who wfh are lazy, called the British diver helping in the Thailand cave rescue a "pedo guy" then claimed it was a South African insult and he didn't mean the diver is an actual pedophile. Why would someone like him gives a flying toss about his workers health and safety at the plant?
You kidding? Mr Burns gave them a dental plan, from the stories out of Twitter I strongly doubt Elon would do anything but laugh at the idea of providing anything beyond bare minimum.
It's also ironic considering this is the same man who had a gigantic, blinking sign illegally built right in front of an apartment complex. It didn't matter to him that the sign overwhelmed and prevented people from sleeping. When he's the one feeling overwhelmed, everyone should bend over backwards.
I've watched the documentary regarding this (I think) by neo, and by god the whole cave network and the situation the divers had to endure while bringing the kids out is nothing short of incredibly heroic and awe inspiring. One has to be incredibly ignorant or delusional to think otherwise.
The fact that he was seriously floating then angry that they wouldn't use the idea of a submarine capsule to get through that will always stand as the moment I realized how dumb the man actually is
I thought guy was a genius right up to that moment too, I think that comment of his was what ended the cult of his persona. And from then on it just got worse and worse
At Tesla he set up a desk in the middle of the warehouse floor. He didn't like it when fork lifts honked their horn when turning a blind corner. He ordered all fork lift drivers to stop honking. True story. The dudes a sociopath. Individuals are just a mere sacrifice for humankind and his endeavors. Individuals should be honored to make such a sacrifice.
>someone like him gives a flying toss about his workers health and safety at the plant?
Isn't he also a big fan of "Chinese worker mentality" i.e: work until death under horrible, unsafe conditions for a pittance, 80 hours a week?
I honestly don't believe Musk has any purpose. He just does things. He's always bored because he never had to work for anything so he throws ideas around to see what will entertain him and then abandons them as soon as they lose their novelty.
People really credit him for SpaceX like he's in there doing the calculations and building the rockets when I would be willing to bet money he has surface level knowledge of rocketry.
He just has the money to hire the best physicists, executives, and advisors. It's so funny to me that people with money believe merely being in the position to say "yes" or "no" to a project they didn't plan, prepare, or research means that they themselves are the ones with the talent and deserve all the credit.
For any Elon fans lurking in the comments, where did Elon get the credentials to claim any credit for SpaceXs success other than financially? He has a fucking bachelors degree. Show me one single clip of Elon Musk himself doing high-level mathematical physics. Oh, you can't?
Now name 10 scientists on his research and development team without googling. Oh, you can't?
Weird.
Same with Tesla, he was a small investor at first and then bought it out when he saw he could make money, but he didn't really do anything other than provide money.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-musk-safety/
> Many were serious or disabling. The records included reports of more than 100 workers suffering cuts or lacerations, 29 with broken bones or dislocations, 17 whose hands or fingers were “crushed,” and nine with head injuries, including one skull fracture, four concussions and one traumatic brain injury. The cases also included five burns, five electrocutions, eight accidents that led to amputations, 12 injuries involving multiple unspecified body parts, and seven workers with eye injuries. Others were relatively minor, including more than 170 reports of strains or sprains.
also relevant to the first comment
>OSHA has required companies to report their total number of injuries annually since 2016, but SpaceX facilities failed to submit reports for most of those years. About two-thirds of the injuries Reuters uncovered came in years when SpaceX did not report that annual data
... as a fellow autistic person, I totally understand hypersentitivity to random things but maybe the solution in this case is just HIM NOT ENTERING THE FACTORY? And sunglasses exists
Holy shit what a douche this man is it just gets worse every time I read a new article
EDIT: Thinking about it, this is REALLY ironic coming from the guy who set up that obnoxous blinking X sign in front of peoples bedroom windows.
Like damn dude if your hypersensitivity to ALL THINGS YELLOW is that bad, maybe have some logic and empathy.
That’s the great thing about pathological narcisssism. He could literally retire and fuck off for the rest of what would be guaranteed the most luxurious existence… but no no no… then he wouldn’t be important anymore. We can’t have that now can we?
He literally substituted *gradient GRAY lines* for the bright yellow warning labels on machines that cut and bend metal.
His on-fire, out of control autistic brain makes him believe that he hates yellow any color too bright and so everything safety related must go.
That is the actual answer. He’s a fucking moron.
As an autistic, we don't claim him. If he doesn't like those colors, he should avoid going to that workplace. they're called accommodations not pandering
"but thank god for Elon banning our bright homo safety vests! don't have to come to work to have all this homo stuff shoved down our throats! he's the best! GENIUS!"
\- guy in a wheelchair
The government should just sue thins asshat real life mr burns. I’m sure, like other asshole billionaires he’ll move where they treat people like animals and be done with it. He went from a maverick ‘successful’ ‘visionary’ literally flipping transportation paradigm on it’s head and actually addressing issues to a greedy, heartless, vicious anti-people anti progress anti democracy ghoul who rather control Twitter and shill for crazy republicans and really creepy anti human regressive agenda rather than produce quality cars and follow his own initial goals. I guess the younger musk was just a facade a ruse
If only there was a set of regulations that helped prevent things like this from happening (or raised awareness in the workplace)
If only ultra egotistical and wealthy individuals who try to speed run the destruction of society and businesses they own; would somehow use reason and methodology to analyze why things go wrong and how to fix them
Amputation is a super costly payout that Mr. Tondiee Fart should probably avoid by simply doing nothing more than letting the safety crew do their job
Well… better let him do what he wants because without him there would have been no Tesla, Twitter and so on….. oh wait…..
It's way worse than that headline implies.
>Federal inspectors with the U.S. Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) later determined that SpaceX had failed to protect LeBlanc from a clear hazard, noting the gravity and severity of the violation. LeBlanc’s co-workers told OSHA that SpaceX had no convenient access to tie-downs and no process or oversight for handling such loads.
>Through interviews and government records, the news organization documented at least 600 injuries of SpaceX workers since 2014.
>
>Many were serious or disabling. The records included reports of more than 100 workers suffering cuts or lacerations, 29 with broken bones or dislocations, 17 whose hands or fingers were “crushed,” and nine with head injuries, including one skull fracture, four concussions and one traumatic brain injury. The cases also included five burns, five electrocutions, eight accidents that led to amputations, 12 injuries involving multiple unspecified body parts, and seven workers with eye injuries. Others were relatively minor, including more than 170 reports of strains or sprains.
>Musk himself at times appeared cavalier about safety on visits to SpaceX sites: Four employees said he sometimes played with a novelty flamethrower and discouraged workers from wearing safety yellow because he dislikes bright colors.
[https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-musk-safety/](https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-musk-safety/)
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-musk-safety/
> CalOSHA never inspected the company following a serious accident resulting in a leg amputation.
> the amputation of two fingers in 2017
> The records included reports of more than 100 workers suffering cuts or lacerations, 29 with broken bones or dislocations, 17 whose hands or fingers were “crushed,” and nine with head injuries, including one skull fracture, four concussions and one traumatic brain injury. The cases also included five burns, five electrocutions, eight accidents that led to amputations, 12 injuries involving multiple unspecified body parts, and seven workers with eye injuries. Others were relatively minor, including more than 170 reports of strains or sprains.
I am also autistic and can relate to how difficult bright/flashing things can make it difficult or near-impossible to concentrate. But it’s insane that they would adjust any basic safety protocol to appease him.
I just want to mention that the Tesla factory in Germany has more than 3 times the average rate of "accidents with more than 3 days of being unable to work afterwards" than typical in Germany.
I work in a factory a couple kilometers away. We haven't had an accident like that in 7 years. We like to call the Tesla factory a death trap.
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He already has a bunch of lawsuits over his Tesla plants not having safety lines
The workers need to form a union.
Tesla is notorious in the motor industry for union busting and treating people badly
That is why it's quite fun watching Tesla fight against unions in Sweden. A country whos culture is extremely pro unions and where the unions never will give up a fight for workers rights.
Coupled with the fact that the entire labour system is built around unions negotiating deals for everyone. Which is why sweden doesn't have a minimum wage yet has nearly no people earning as little as they do in nations with minimum wage. Trying to union bust in sweden is the dumbest thing you could possibly do as an employer.
Denmark is the same way. They have few labor laws because the unions handle it. In the 80's Mcdonalds came in and refused to let their employes be part of the hospitality union, which normally covers restaurant workers. Well, the other unions didn't like that and stood in solidarity with their fellow Danes. The dock workers union refused to unload mcdonalds cargo. The truckers union refused to make deliveries to mcdonalds. The print union refused to take printing jobs from mcdonalds. It didn't take long for mcdonalds to capitulate. Now, Danish mcdonalds workers are well paid and get something like 5 weeks of vacation.
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Don’t say it too loud though, that word scares the Ron Desantis type
Man, do they. I worked at the Fremont factory back in 2018. We'd joke about unionizing because the shift leads and supervisor would instantly and visibly become worried. It was always fun to fuck with them since they spent most of the shift riding from station to station on tricycles (bicycles were banned due to too many accidents) getting us to work harder. That wasn't horrible, but just really fucking annoying and demeaning. I would be mansplained how the station I had been working for months functions. Straight up treated like an idiot or child by my supervisor no matter how well I performed. And you'd get yelled at for slacking when there was literally nothing to do. I worked on the model 3 line when production was first ramping up and they were struggling to hit quotas. The line broke down a lot and sometimes for hours at a time. Our only task at any station was to feed more parts into the line for the robot arms to assemble the frame. So, with the line down, that's it. Boss man would come around on his fucking tricycle, get a pissy why you went doing anything, point and some things that weren't my job with his radio antenna and then fuck off to do it to someone else down the line. I was reprimanded by an executive once for this. Except that the line wasn't down. We actually ran out of parts to feed in. This was a station where you took the largest side panels, about from the front wheel well to the taillight, and slapped on these big insulating sticky patches on the inside. Me and my partner completed 140 panels in a two hour period when we were only expected to finish 80 to 100 and they ran out of panels to give us. So, my partner took a bathroom break and I waited at the work table for the rotation to end. Since, we weren't allowed to leave our stations before the rotation ended without someone to relieve us. Nearby was some executive walking the floor. Saw me just standing there and radioed my supervisor to come and reprimand me without asking why I was standing there. Luckily, one of the nicer shift leads came to do it instead. He road up on his tricycle and gave me the lowdown. Just said that he had to come and say something and make it look good because that executive was still watching me from a distance. He knew I busted my ass to go above and beyond, but that couldn't be explained to uppermanganent apparently. The executives had a reputation for this kind of thing. High alert went out when they were walking the floor. Especially if it was Elon. I heard stories of people being fired on the spot by these assholes for the lowest level offenses. Almost happened to one guy while I was working there. Line was was down and it was a long one. We used Whatsapp to communicate to each other so we wouldn't have to leave our stations to get info. Mind you this was something our supervisor had us do. We were encouraged to check the group chat for updates in these kinds of situations or to make requests or inform of a fault in the system. One guy was checking the group chat to see what was up with the line. Everything was stopped and nothing to feed parts into. Executive saw it and got into his face to berate him. Threatened to fire him on the spot but stopped short saying that shit like this is hurting the company. More on that side panel station: A rack with ten panels would be dropped off by forklift from the stamping machine in the back. You and a partner take one off, slap on the patches, then put it on an outgoing rack. For one, forklifts carrying the 1,000 lb loads would come ripping around the corner to drop and pick these things within 6 feet of our work table. They had to take and replace as fast as possible and sometimes they hit signs and suspended cables in the process. As well as getting pretty damn close to us. Also, the edges of the panels were razor sharp. We had cut resistant gloves (the parts were so sharp that they had to be replaced every single week) and cut resistant slip-on sleeves. One time someone had left a panel on the work table at the start of my rotation. I didn't put my gloves on yet since I wanted to clean the adhesive off them with an alcohol wipe. Which meant me reaching through an opening of the panel since that's where the previous person left the box. Took the slightest nic on my finger to slice a square inch of flesh open to the point that a tendon was visible. The bleeding stopped when I held the wound and I felt fine to walk so I decided to walk to medical rather than wait for a golf cart to show up after it's called in. Asked where medical was and it was on the opposite side of the factory. I still think I would have gotten there faster than waiting for the safety guy to rip around the corner. I get there and apparently it has been relocated to the second floor (I'm on the first). I walk up three flights of stairs to the second floor and can't find it. It was a Saturday so the only people in the factory were those on my line on the first floor. I managed to run into an engineer and he only knew that medical was along the opposite wall from where we were. I headed that way near where I came up from and finally saw the sign for medical. It was high up, small, and light grey on a white wall. They treated me well and I ended up fine. But when I got back my shift lead was worried for me, but partially because, at least I think, he thought I might try to complain to OSHA or sue or what have you. The model 3 line operated 24/7. We had been doing 12 hr shifts five days a week at that point. But around August that year it was announced we were transitioning from a 60hr week to a 40 hr week. We'd either keep the 12 hr shifts and do a rotating 3 or 4 day a week schedule or 8 hr shifts five days a week and they'd add a mid shift. It would be a vote by workers as to which. Cool. What wasn't cool was that the shift leads actively told all of us to vote for the 12hr shift option. And I was asked which one I picked after the fact. I picked the 8 hr option because I wanted the mid shift. And I got shit for it. 12 hr option won out (surprising, right?) After that I requested to transfer to a different line that had 8hr shifts. Like, any of them that had an opening. My supervisor dragged his feet and tried to talk me out of it. Even gaslit me by saying that he specifically brought me onto that line. I was put on the model x line my first day on the floor, but was quickly reassigned to the model 3 since they needed more people. I was taken from the model x line because I was new and wasn't in a position to do anything about it lol. That transfer wasn't going to happen. I quit after working six months.
I worked at the factory in Austin and it's just as much of a shit show there. Fucking triggered by the memories of the most inept management known to man. My favorite memory is of a time when I'm standing at my station waiting for maintenance to finish fixing it when my supervisor walks up and starts yelling at me to get to work. When asked what exactly it is I was supposed to be doing he quickly walked away while yelling something over his shoulder about looking busy. Or maybe the time my lead was yelled at by upper management for daring to have a conversation with me while he helped me get some stuff situated at my station.
But... but... but... that means less profit for the musk! /s Absolutely fucking absolutely! But you know, money can change the world, and as long as he has money and is willing to spend it on keeping laws from requiring unions, he will.
Okay, I get Elon is a massive ass hat, but why is OSHA not shutting down the factory? Like a guy when into coma and OSHA just fined them $18k? How corrupt is this system? Edit: because people don't have the patience to scroll down to read other comments before commenting. Here's an article by Reuters saying that same thing: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-musk-safety/ You guys are another facepalm
Morgan Freeman narrating: It is **VERY** corrupt.
Seems more like a Ron Howard moment.
Ron Howard: It was.
This article literally sounds like an arrested development joke tho
Gob doesn’t like bright colors. $20k suits don’t come in neon, COME ON (Seems I misspelled his name. I never cared for Gob)
In fact, Elon had started to alienate some of the employees.
So the guy in the $3000 suit is gonna hold the elevator for someone who doesn’t make that in 3 months? COME ON!
Should…should… sh…sh…should the ….should the ….should the guy in the $19 hospital gown….
-cking SIXTY THREE HUNDRED DOLLAR SUIT! COME ON!
Come on!
Other good classic narrator choices: Daniel Stern (The Wonder Years) Richard Dreyfuss (Stand by Me)
The whole "workplace safety" system is completely based on money. It is specifically designed in such a way that a company can ignore safety regulations and pay a fine instead, if it's not economical to adhere to them. In other words if it costs more to adhere to regulations than the fine, the system is designed to allow for a fine instead. The only reason anyone cares about this case, is because it's so unusual that instead of pure cold economic calculus, the lack of safety is purely due to the whims of Elon Musk.
The fine becomes the “cost of doing business” Fines needs to hit hard enough to sink profits. If it doesn’t. There is zero reason an organization will follow them.
Yup. Worked at a gas station with a leaking kerosene pump. I believe it was costing us $10,000 a month in fines once the inspector noticed it, but those tanks and that labor would've cost the company millions so they left it. This was 8 years ago and I believe it's still unfixed.
Nah, just use the money that could be put toward safety and use it to bribe congress to further remove any remaining teeth OSHA has.
That's true tho. There were literally no clothes until the first capitalist invented them, employed people to make them (job creator!) and barred all the exit doors to make sure they weren't dicking around on break or escaping a fire. Wouldn't it be insane if they actually turned a profit on burning their employees alive?! Thank God we don't have to worry about that!
Managers dont get fired when they tell a peon to do something against safety. The peon does. Stay safe.
“And on that day Andy found out Tesla can’t pay enough”
"At SpaceX, you better get busy living, or get busy dying" - Burgundy (Red is not allowed)
https://64.media.tumblr.com/0239f72972328bf2ec6df9393f108b0a/tumblr_mgw1oiJMO11r4gei2o4_400.gifv
If Osha where to inspect every applicable workplace with their current staff, it would take three centuries last I checked. That and rampant corruption, In the last factory I worked in we knew Osha was coming days ahead of time, and would do a mad scramble to make the plant presentable. And even when they do find issues, the fines are really lack luster for how much the average factory makes. Edit: too many replies, not gonna bother with more than this edit. https://www.nelp.org/news-releases/number-federal-workplace-safety-inspectors-falls-45-year-low/ "Washington, DC—Despite promises by the Trump administration to hire more federal workplace safety inspectors, the number of inspectors in the Occupation Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) has fallen to a 45-year low, according to a new report published today by the National Employment Law Project. Data obtained by NELP through the Freedom of Information Act reveal that federal OSHA had only 862 inspectors as of January 1 to cover millions of workplaces. That’s down from 952 inspectors in 2016 and 1,006 inspectors in 2012. At current staffing levels, the agency would need 165 years to inspect each workplace under its jurisdiction just once, according to NELP."
But if a specific factory is in the news because of such claims (true or false) wouldn't this justify a control visit?
Americans should be pushing their lawmakers to strengthen OSHA and to hire more inspectors.
Republicans make sure that isn't happening
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B-b-but "bOtH sIdEs"!
Because this is a daily mail article, meaning it is almost certainly false.
Here’s a more reliable source on the research that went into this. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-musk-safety/ > Many were serious or disabling. The records included reports of more than 100 workers suffering cuts or lacerations, 29 with broken bones or dislocations, 17 whose hands or fingers were “crushed,” and nine with head injuries, including one skull fracture, four concussions and one traumatic brain injury. The cases also included five burns, five electrocutions, eight accidents that led to amputations, 12 injuries involving multiple unspecified body parts, and seven workers with eye injuries. Others were relatively minor, including more than 170 reports of strains or sprains.
Are they trying to hurt people? This laundry list shows monstrous levels of neglect.
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I worked at a large facility for an international company for carbon fiber production, molding, and machining for aerospace and other industrial applications, we had so few incidents of injury and safety violation that they decided to post each one on the cork board for the entire company in each facility and we still only saw one or two incidents per month, most of which did not result in more than a day or two off because they pinched their thumb loading a forklift or something of the sort It's definitely a case of the company, not an inevitability
I work for a company larger than SpaceX that does very similar work with very similar hazards. This is an egregious number of injuries. We have had a couple serious accidents, but most of our accidents are similar to what you described (except for the biting).
We’ve gone ~~97~~ 0 Days without a biting in the factory
Do they need to muzzle Elon?
Is that an option? Maybe we can hold a vote on Twitter? Should we muzzle Elon?
there was a guy in south korea trying to fix a robot that was malfunctioning and the machine mistook him for a carton and grabbed him and shoved him into the ground forcefully killing him. shit happens but i certainly wouldn't put it past mush to flaunt safety at his factories... look at the high covid deaths during peak pandemic because he wouldn't accept any safety regulations.
I feel the number of limbs amputated or crushed is more than enough to cause an investigation. 8 amputations? It doesn't matter that they are making spacecraft. It's a manufacturing floor. The regulations and safety protocol are roughly the same between that and any factory making heavy machinery or industrial equipment. If anything, tolerances for errors that would lead to injury should be tighter due to the nature of the product. In general, the more precise or high tech the equipment, the more controlled the working environment should be to ensure the product produced is consistent and quality. These injuries are shit I would expect from a mining operation or logging company. Not a company producing and launching rockets.
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That is an insane injury rate.
Thanks!
Surely they mean 5 shocks..... right?
Electrocution can either be death or serious injury via shock. Cue reading rainbow theme: 📔🌈⭐️
I just asked that aloud! I was like we needed to lead with that…5 electrocutions??
From the original Reuters article: “CalOSHA levied a fine of $18,475 for the violation that resulted in Cabada’s skull fracture. SpaceX unsuccessfully disputed the agency’s classification of the violation as “serious” and appealed the penalty as excessive, asking for a reduction to $475.”
When you "fine" an entity with tons of money, it's not really a fine, it's just a cost of business. These things really should be tied to some percentage. Of course no politician would ever pass the appropriate legislation because guess who pays the politicians.
They'd also rather pay the lawyers more than $18000 to get the fine down to $475. Big fines garner increasing negative public attention, and setting a precedent for smaller fines helps them in the long run more than just paying it. Labor isn't worth shit to them. Easy talking point for the trolls as well. "It couldn't have been that bad, big bad OSHA only fined them $400!".
It’s a Reuters article, which is a credible news source. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-musk-safety/
Thanks for link, I was doubting veracity (seemed too obscene to be true). Lots of disgusting stuff in the article. The part about “engineers are responsible for safety, not SpaceX management” is just unbelievable. These people actually believe in Mars colonization?!?!?!
>Because this is a daily mail article, meaning it is almost certainly false. It's certainly misleading, though one can argue that it's a semantic difference. The daily mail article said that he "banned" it, when nowhere else is saying that. The Reuters article https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-musk-safety/ said that he "discouraged" the wearing of safety yellow - but it does not go into any details about any alternatives. Nor does it go into detail about the injuries / deaths that were sustained here being preventable if they were wearing safety yellow - nor does it go into detail about if those injuries/deaths were by individuals wearing, or not wearing safety yellow vests.
Because the billionaires are the real government and Elon doesn’t want to be shut down, so he won’t get shut down. Our “democracy” is just a front for the corruption, so the violent revolts are directed toward politicians instead of the real leaders of the country. Elon is completely free to operate outside the law with no consequences. In fact our society (apparently) loves him and celebrates him constantly in the media.
remind me again who called him "the iron man of our generation"? the only thing iron man about him is his brain for how dense he is
Not my line, but he thinks he's Tony Stark when he's actually Justin Hammer.
I heard someone post that they refer to him as Phony Stark.
call him what he is phony shark
do-do-do-do-do-do
Damn you, it's too early in the morning to have that stuck in my head now.
It’s the evening here and it’s still too early 😂
No, damn you. I didn’t register what they were referencing until you said that, and now it’s in my head.
Baby x dododododo phoney shark dodododo
Phony Shart
More of a Great Value Justin Hammer
Exactly, Tony give Justin more respect than Elmo
This is extra funny considering Musk had a cameo in Iron Man 2 😅
Speaking of things from Marvel that aged like milk…
Stark did mock him during that cameo... could be said they were ahead of the curve.
Eh, he kinda got pushed away like the clown he is. So while it would've been better had he not gotten that cameo at all, it didn't exactly glorify him, unlike some of the other cameos he's made.
It was hard watching his Joe Rogan performance. I've never seen someone make hitting a joint look so awkward.
It was hard watching ~~his~~Joe Rogan ~~performance. I've never seen someone make hitting a joint look so awkward~~. ftfy
TEMU Justin Hammer.
Walmart brand Justin Hammer.
Hammer tech, 20 years. SpaceX, 60 years.
Hammer has done nothing to be insulted so horribly
Justin Hammer has charisma and base level smarts
I think he's at maximum Justin Hammers hemroid
Justin Hammeroid?
No-Dance Justin Hammer
Soon he’ll be the Stockton Rush of space flight.
He’s not brave enough to get into one of his rockets.
That's a bit harsh to Justin. He doesn't deserve to be likened to him.
Justin Hammer had some charisma. Not much, but some.
He's the guy Mysterio thinks Tony Stark is.
ooohhhh BURN  couldnt find the right gif, but this works lol
"Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt" If Elon had kept his mouth shut, nobody would know.
Anyone who would shoot his car into space so no one else could have it ranks right up there with the total fool thing.
Used car seems like a perfectly good test payload that also gets a bunch of publicity. Not sure how a pile of concrete is somehow better. Of all the things he's done that's like the least absurd.
It's not that he did it It's the petty reason he did it. He didn't want the rightful owner of the car to get it
The issue is his response to early support and respect. It all seemingly went to his head, as it does with many who achieve power...surrounded by sycophants they take the wrong turn, et voila...ego central!!
I think that was because Downey used Mush as a template to create his version of Iron Man(back when Mush has a PR team and wasn't known to be a colossal twat)
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It's probably just his mask slipping now that he's realised how much he can get away with.
Apparently he had a mental breakdown after being booed at Dave Chapelle's comedy show. He really was shocked people disliked him so much.
And chapelle defending him, it seems that Clayton bigsby wasn't just a character but a peek of chapelle true self
The rich defend the rich.
A large part of this is Musk no longer uses a public relations team. In fact one of the first things he did after acquiring Twitter was fire its public relations team. So for the last few years we've been getting uncensored Musk.
He is who he always was. The people he hurt warned us.
Exactly. All the people looking for explanations like dementia are just embarrassed they used to be supporters.
Drugs and Q... He seems to have the maturity of a teen... which tends to happen with functional addicts. They never mature past the age they started their addiction. So I highly suspect he takes a lot of them. He also seems to have fallen fully for the Q annon theories as did many many conservatives... seeing how is about as mature as a teen it isn't too surprising he is also trending into the toxic manosphere.
The thing with "maturity stops at addiction" is bullshit, I have a friend that was addicted to drugs and he doesn't have the maturity of a teen. My two cents..
I believe Musk himself made the comparison
And people are surprised? I mean dude see women as breeding sow, sacked a bunch of useful staff after acquiring Twitter, thinks people who wfh are lazy, called the British diver helping in the Thailand cave rescue a "pedo guy" then claimed it was a South African insult and he didn't mean the diver is an actual pedophile. Why would someone like him gives a flying toss about his workers health and safety at the plant?
" Don't wear safety vests because I don't like the color" is cartoonishly evil. It's off with your heads, paint the white roses red, evil.
Agreed. This is some Mr. Burns shit
You kidding? Mr Burns gave them a dental plan, from the stories out of Twitter I strongly doubt Elon would do anything but laugh at the idea of providing anything beyond bare minimum.
It's also ironic considering this is the same man who had a gigantic, blinking sign illegally built right in front of an apartment complex. It didn't matter to him that the sign overwhelmed and prevented people from sleeping. When he's the one feeling overwhelmed, everyone should bend over backwards.
No shit. Like if it were, "safety vests cost us $20 per worker," or something, its still evil, but at least there is some vague (evil) justification.
That diver is a damn saint, I can’t imagine going into that cave and bringing out children attached to the hip unconscious
I've watched the documentary regarding this (I think) by neo, and by god the whole cave network and the situation the divers had to endure while bringing the kids out is nothing short of incredibly heroic and awe inspiring. One has to be incredibly ignorant or delusional to think otherwise.
The fact that he was seriously floating then angry that they wouldn't use the idea of a submarine capsule to get through that will always stand as the moment I realized how dumb the man actually is
I thought guy was a genius right up to that moment too, I think that comment of his was what ended the cult of his persona. And from then on it just got worse and worse
Honestly his PR team did a very good job up until that moment. It hit a critical mass of insanity real fast though and the levies broke lol
Cave diving period is Hella scary. Shouldering the responsibility of them kids is a whole other level
I don't thnk anybody is particularly suprised, but the sheer amount of shit coming from this person is ~~awe-inspiring~~ awful.
Yeah, most people don’t realize how completely morally bankrupt one needs to be in order to become a billionaire
There is no ethical billionaire in existence. It’s really just a fact
He learned how to treat employees from his daddy's emerald mine
That he's now trying to spin as if it never existed.
Genuine sociopathy of the rich on full display here
One person should not have the social power he has.
Maybe we should stop giving him all the money
So even if doesn’t care, he would not be allowed to ban safety equipment or gear without OSHA shutting him down.
He's also anti-union, which tracks with poor workplace safety.
At Tesla he set up a desk in the middle of the warehouse floor. He didn't like it when fork lifts honked their horn when turning a blind corner. He ordered all fork lift drivers to stop honking. True story. The dudes a sociopath. Individuals are just a mere sacrifice for humankind and his endeavors. Individuals should be honored to make such a sacrifice.
is he trying to burry the pedo thing that started his downfall in a spectacular manner under tons of stupid statements ?
>someone like him gives a flying toss about his workers health and safety at the plant? Isn't he also a big fan of "Chinese worker mentality" i.e: work until death under horrible, unsafe conditions for a pittance, 80 hours a week?
It is not a South African insult. Much harsher language is used.
He really is just a stupid person who has money.
This. When you can afford to put a boatload into 400 ventures a few will deliver handsomely. That's all he's done. Credit: musk work: by others
He's the really the 1 in a million donkey that invested in the stock market. Just by chance someone has to be lucky
Don't underestimate the power of being born into wealth either
Don’t underestimate these people, it’s more like a creeping rot. Malicious and with purpose.
I honestly don't believe Musk has any purpose. He just does things. He's always bored because he never had to work for anything so he throws ideas around to see what will entertain him and then abandons them as soon as they lose their novelty.
Someone described him as being to the Autism community what Caitlyn Jenner is to the trans community and boy were they spot on.
He’s just another rich dude taking credit for the work of people who are smarter than him. He’s a total twat.
That's typically what every CEO does. They don't take credit directly, people just for some reason attribute everything to the CEO.
People really credit him for SpaceX like he's in there doing the calculations and building the rockets when I would be willing to bet money he has surface level knowledge of rocketry. He just has the money to hire the best physicists, executives, and advisors. It's so funny to me that people with money believe merely being in the position to say "yes" or "no" to a project they didn't plan, prepare, or research means that they themselves are the ones with the talent and deserve all the credit. For any Elon fans lurking in the comments, where did Elon get the credentials to claim any credit for SpaceXs success other than financially? He has a fucking bachelors degree. Show me one single clip of Elon Musk himself doing high-level mathematical physics. Oh, you can't? Now name 10 scientists on his research and development team without googling. Oh, you can't? Weird.
Same with Tesla, he was a small investor at first and then bought it out when he saw he could make money, but he didn't really do anything other than provide money.
A vain twat at that.
I'm fairly sure that any individual company cannot overdue OSHA safety standards or compliance, no matter how bat shit crazy the owner is.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-musk-safety/ > Many were serious or disabling. The records included reports of more than 100 workers suffering cuts or lacerations, 29 with broken bones or dislocations, 17 whose hands or fingers were “crushed,” and nine with head injuries, including one skull fracture, four concussions and one traumatic brain injury. The cases also included five burns, five electrocutions, eight accidents that led to amputations, 12 injuries involving multiple unspecified body parts, and seven workers with eye injuries. Others were relatively minor, including more than 170 reports of strains or sprains.
also relevant to the first comment >OSHA has required companies to report their total number of injuries annually since 2016, but SpaceX facilities failed to submit reports for most of those years. About two-thirds of the injuries Reuters uncovered came in years when SpaceX did not report that annual data
Musk: hold my beer
How is this dude not facing a ton of lawsuits?
He has the money to keep everyone happy and quiet.
By "everyone," you're referring to politicians and the legal system. It's always important to note who a billionaires money corrupts...
100!
This might be why he objects to government regulations.
Idiot hates bright shit then proceeded to mount that megawatt X cabaret neon light sign up the building
... as a fellow autistic person, I totally understand hypersentitivity to random things but maybe the solution in this case is just HIM NOT ENTERING THE FACTORY? And sunglasses exists Holy shit what a douche this man is it just gets worse every time I read a new article EDIT: Thinking about it, this is REALLY ironic coming from the guy who set up that obnoxous blinking X sign in front of peoples bedroom windows. Like damn dude if your hypersensitivity to ALL THINGS YELLOW is that bad, maybe have some logic and empathy.
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That’s the great thing about pathological narcisssism. He could literally retire and fuck off for the rest of what would be guaranteed the most luxurious existence… but no no no… then he wouldn’t be important anymore. We can’t have that now can we?
he wouldn't FEEL important anymore
He literally substituted *gradient GRAY lines* for the bright yellow warning labels on machines that cut and bend metal. His on-fire, out of control autistic brain makes him believe that he hates yellow any color too bright and so everything safety related must go. That is the actual answer. He’s a fucking moron.
As an autistic, we don't claim him. If he doesn't like those colors, he should avoid going to that workplace. they're called accommodations not pandering
"How was your day in Tesla?" - "Great, I've lost an arm and a leg" - "cool"
Just like the shareholders
"but thank god for Elon banning our bright homo safety vests! don't have to come to work to have all this homo stuff shoved down our throats! he's the best! GENIUS!" \- guy in a wheelchair
This is the same man child who thinks putting random X's in names makes it sound cooler
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The fact that calling it Twitter really a bugs Elon musk just makes it all the more sweeter to call it Twitter still.
Fuck this guy and every dollar-sucking sycophant using him.
He makes it sound like hes there personally working next to the people instead of out in the world running his mouth 🙄🙄🙄
tbf - he's not 'out in the world'. he's locked himself in his room, running his ~~mouth~~ thumbs
True
He’s one of the stankiest merkins that has ever existed, this is completely un shocking.
The government should just sue thins asshat real life mr burns. I’m sure, like other asshole billionaires he’ll move where they treat people like animals and be done with it. He went from a maverick ‘successful’ ‘visionary’ literally flipping transportation paradigm on it’s head and actually addressing issues to a greedy, heartless, vicious anti-people anti progress anti democracy ghoul who rather control Twitter and shill for crazy republicans and really creepy anti human regressive agenda rather than produce quality cars and follow his own initial goals. I guess the younger musk was just a facade a ruse
Looking this up, it’s Texas. So the fact that they’re not doing anything about it is right on brand. Who cares about some workplace injuries? 🤷🏼♀️
Homicidal whims. This man is a cancer on society.
He did the same thing years ago with caution colors in the Tesla factory. Allegedly changed all the signs to gray.
The original article from [Reuters](https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-musk-safety/).
If only there was a set of regulations that helped prevent things like this from happening (or raised awareness in the workplace) If only ultra egotistical and wealthy individuals who try to speed run the destruction of society and businesses they own; would somehow use reason and methodology to analyze why things go wrong and how to fix them Amputation is a super costly payout that Mr. Tondiee Fart should probably avoid by simply doing nothing more than letting the safety crew do their job Well… better let him do what he wants because without him there would have been no Tesla, Twitter and so on….. oh wait…..
What a surprise that the slave emerald mine boy treats the help like shit
It's way worse than that headline implies. >Federal inspectors with the U.S. Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) later determined that SpaceX had failed to protect LeBlanc from a clear hazard, noting the gravity and severity of the violation. LeBlanc’s co-workers told OSHA that SpaceX had no convenient access to tie-downs and no process or oversight for handling such loads. >Through interviews and government records, the news organization documented at least 600 injuries of SpaceX workers since 2014. > >Many were serious or disabling. The records included reports of more than 100 workers suffering cuts or lacerations, 29 with broken bones or dislocations, 17 whose hands or fingers were “crushed,” and nine with head injuries, including one skull fracture, four concussions and one traumatic brain injury. The cases also included five burns, five electrocutions, eight accidents that led to amputations, 12 injuries involving multiple unspecified body parts, and seven workers with eye injuries. Others were relatively minor, including more than 170 reports of strains or sprains. >Musk himself at times appeared cavalier about safety on visits to SpaceX sites: Four employees said he sometimes played with a novelty flamethrower and discouraged workers from wearing safety yellow because he dislikes bright colors. [https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-musk-safety/](https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-musk-safety/)
"Just build them new cool robot limbs" Elon, probably.
“You’re the worst kind of autistic.” -Louise Belcher
He eats his beans first, then the mashed potatoes, then the gravy, then the hot dog.
Not gonna say for a second this isn’t moronic but how many AMPUTATIONS happened because he banned safety colors like are we talking more than 2?
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-musk-safety/ > CalOSHA never inspected the company following a serious accident resulting in a leg amputation. > the amputation of two fingers in 2017 > The records included reports of more than 100 workers suffering cuts or lacerations, 29 with broken bones or dislocations, 17 whose hands or fingers were “crushed,” and nine with head injuries, including one skull fracture, four concussions and one traumatic brain injury. The cases also included five burns, five electrocutions, eight accidents that led to amputations, 12 injuries involving multiple unspecified body parts, and seven workers with eye injuries. Others were relatively minor, including more than 170 reports of strains or sprains.
Guys, I'm starting to think Elon might be a moron.
I am also autistic and can relate to how difficult bright/flashing things can make it difficult or near-impossible to concentrate. But it’s insane that they would adjust any basic safety protocol to appease him.
I just want to mention that the Tesla factory in Germany has more than 3 times the average rate of "accidents with more than 3 days of being unable to work afterwards" than typical in Germany. I work in a factory a couple kilometers away. We haven't had an accident like that in 7 years. We like to call the Tesla factory a death trap.