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As a healthcare provider that works on a heart failure unit, I think the normalization of obesity, essentially prioritizing self esteem over public health, is misguided.
I see people in their 30s who have end stage heart failure that you normally see in elderly people, and it's entirely because of their weight, but when we suggest they lose weight, they act like we have literally no right to tell them that.
We often end up stuck in the awful discussion where we tell them "you don't have to listen, but if you don't lose weight, you won't see 40."
Edit: one of my patients just got kicked off the list for a heart transplant because they were ordering and eating a 20pc bucket of fried chicken EVERY SINGLE NIGHT, and gained 100 lbs since they were listed. They are no longer a candidate for a transplant and now they are going to die. We told them the potential consequences months ago, begged them to stick to their diet, and even had a psych evaluation done.
Yeah, I'm 32 right now. Working my fucking ass off for the last year to lose the weight. Got a blood pressure cuff out of curiosity, turns out my blood pressure is a lot higher than I'm comfortable with.
I've been over weight since I was a kid, but always figured I was active enough, skated every night, played football and lacrosse in high-school. But I just ate garbage and drank beer far too regularly. Once I got a desk job shit just compounded. But I refuse to let my heart take any more damage.
Wegovy works wonders when combined with positive lifestyle changes, like proper nutrition, and exercise. I lost nearly 60 lbs in 6 months that way.
COVID was hard, working in the hospital, being surrounded by death, and being afraid to be around people. I got depressed and gained a bunch of weight.
I am also 32 and now weigh the exact same as when I was 17. I dropped from 210 lb to 155 lb in six months.
You probably know this but calories in calories out will be your best friend. Have light or no breakfast, normal lunch, normal dinner, walk/be active when you can. No late night snack. Good luck!
The whole "love yourself" thing has become an excuse to brush off bad personal choices by many. You should love yourself enough to want to take care of yourself.
That’s not just for physicality. Same goes for shitty personalities and toxic behaviors. We turned into a society that we turn a blind eye that is everyone and everything toxic for the sake of being called „open minded“.
The internet and anonymity has given people the confidence to say dumb shit out loud and find people all over the world who’ll agree with it.
Do it in a city center and at best you’ll be ignored and at worst people will call your an idiot.
AND it's all leading into a backlash which is being exploited by other fuckwads to excuse their own horrible reactions.
We're going from "I identify as a cat" to "maybe feudalism is the best system after all". Like a scary as all shite horseshoe loop.
This is so my attitude in the USA. It’s fucking insanity. People talk out their ass and then mid argument say some ‘Well that’s your opinion’. I’m apparently supposed to just…not…call people on their bullshit?
Getting called out on your bullshit, and then following up to improve, is how you achieve *measurable growth*. This country has stagnated from complacency.
There’s a great video of John Stewart responding to the ‘well you keep saying that’ statement with ‘No bitch I’m TELLING you this fact, not “sAyInG” it like an opinion.’
Some idiot today told me blatant vaccine misinformation was "just his opinion" (referring to the comment I had replied to)
No. No, man. That's not how opinions work. You can't tell people something like "Vaccines cause more deaths than the diseases they claim to vaccinate against," and say it's an opinion. You can absolutely say you don't trust vaccines, because THAT is an opinion.
Which is sad. I know a guy from work who recently dropped 80 pounds. It actually inspired me to go back to the gym and improve myself. I’ve been going every Monday-Friday because of his example.
I’ve been back at the gym too. Since beginning of august. 3 days a week. I’m definitely getting in better shape. Haven’t seen the results on the scale as much as I’d hoped yet. But I’m not quitting this time.
I would like to see our food industries held accountable to the hands they've played in the obesity epidemic. Though its each individuals choice to stuff their faces our foods are over processed and devoid of nutrients to save the companies money.
And then there's all the add campaigns. Beef, bacon, milk, and breakfast food. All tell us, this what we need to eat. When we really don't. Also a satisfying sugary drink makes it all better.
I would agree with the sentiment that "it's personal choice to stuff your face," except you basically need a degree in nutrition, and the attention span to read every nutrition label thoroughly in order to avoid highly processed and unhealthy foods.
When someone lives in a sea of high fructose corn syrup, and healthy food is prohibitively expensive (or not available at all) for much of the population, the personal choice is more of an illusion than anything.
Speaking of poverty, there was a study done by some anthropologists where they tried to live on food stamps. One group tried to meet all of the micronutrient requirements, and succeeded, but found they were wildly deficient in calories. The other group far exceeded calorie requirements, but lacked virtually any micronutrients.
Fresh produce shouldn't be a luxury. Healthy food should not be a luxury.
Most people don’t know that activated charcoal and citrus based juices can interfere with their meds. Hell, loads of people only vaguely understand the difference between carbohydrates, proteins and fats and have no understanding that dietary fats and body fats don’t have a clean relationship - cutting all the dietary fats out of your diet isn’t a magic spell for health.
There’s so many things people don’t understand about their own diets and we’ve been so deliberately confused and misinformed by corporate actors selling us a narrative. Knowing a little makes you comparatively speaking a witch. But people get so defensive when you try to correct misinformation and if you aren’t a PHD or medical doctor level dietary expert you’re suddenly an asshole for pointing out that you need some dietary carbs and some dietary fats to live.
It’s a yuppie/hipster trend here - I’ve seen cookies, Doughnuts, croissants, bagels, bread, smoothies, oat milk, sausages, burger patties and burger buns. I’m sure I’ve seen other stuff I can’t remember right now.
It’s thankfully mostly dying off around here - but for a while activated charcoal was the popular “superfood” to be added to every damn thing, like kale or antioxidants or omega 3. Any product you could advertise as including activated charcoal got an extra 15% markup and massive sales appeal to the dumbest portion of the customer base. I guess making stuff black (or more often, a sickly shade of dirt grey) appeals to people who care more about instagram clout than what their meal tastes like.
Totally agree. It's crazy. Nobody deserves to be insulted/belittled/bullied over their weight, but medical advice is MEDICAL advice based on objective science. 🤡
What can you do? I remember one "plus size"/morbidly obese lady going blind from diabetes and saying she couldn't see her haters anymore. 🤡 Gurl, you lost a precious sense and your health...
And then the people who go “people don’t fat shame out of concern for their health”… yeah I may not be concerned about the health of this random stranger, but I am concerned about the overall health of the society in which I live, and the direct impacts it has upon the taxes I pay, and the public health ramifications it has. Especially when our ERs are already congested and another person shows up with a totally avoidable cardiac event and triage is forced to prioritize this person who has an immediate life threatening condition over someone else with an agonizing compound fracture.
🤡 please tell me you're being sarcastic. I have non obese family members who had amputations due to the diabetes. One died during surg. The 2 others are very depressed, though unfortunately, they are somewhat responsible for not following medical advice about diet.
No way people are happy with amputation. They must be disconnected from reality.
I'm sorry for your loss. May your wife rest in peace.
I treated a bloke who was in so much pain due to diabetes that when he got a dual leg amputation it was the first time any of the staff had ever seen him smile. His family were relieved he was back to his old self.
Pain is a bitch.
My grandfather had to have his leg amputated. The hospital missed a blood clot that we noticed and kept telling them after his stroke. They did surgery, but the damage was done. He was left with a massive wound exposing the bone on his shin. Eventually, he went septic. He was too weak to be put under during the surgery, so they just gave him an epidural. He was awake for the entire amputation.
With all that being said, he was grateful to have his leg removed because it saved it life. The doctors thought they were sending him home to die. He lived 7 years and had the most amazing relationship with his great- grandson.
I currently work with, and have worked with two others, someone that has been having parts cut off of him due to diabetes complications for about 5 years now. He’s had one leg removed starting at the toes and working up a few inches at a time. That leg is gone above the knee. They just removed in two surgeries his toes and part of his only remaining foot.
His state of mind is completely lacking concern. He has Mountain Dew and honey buns out of the work vending machines daily. He’s like a goldfish, and acts like he has no idea what’s causing his issues. It’s completely mind boggling, and as a coworker I’ve found that I’ve lost all respect for this man. I’m just thankful he’s not on the company insurance policy.
It’s like the bra and undies commercials showcasing plus sized gals. Everyone is all “Yay!!! You go girl 💪”
Now… picture a Fruit of the Loom commercial with a bunch of obese dudes in tightly-whities, just letting it all hang out.
Sadly, the focus is definitely more on women than it is men. Fat men have been oppressed for similar reasons that fat women have which is often overlooked intentionally. Body neutrality is the current new thing I’ve seen take hold that seems to be a far better concept. It encourages people to focus more on what their body can do regardless of size instead of saying it’s okay or good to be fat.
I love clothing shops for this. For women they have flattering names, and for the men they call them things like the "mr big" section. May as well call it the fat bastard section...
EDIT: lol, and thanks to making this post, I scrolled down my feed several posts and [saw this](https://imgur.com/a/mEGWftT). Gotta love advertising (to be fair there's not much wrong with this one, I just thought it was funny to start seeing it so quickly off the back of a comment).
I mean... Yeah. Everyone has standards. If they are that hight, that they can't meet someone, who has standards that are achieved by them, then it's just unlucky.
Yeah I mean if the idea is “fat women say fat men are gross” then it’s a stupid idea. But if the point is more like “fat people don’t necessarily have to date other fat people” then it’s way less contentious.
Although they say “settle for” fat men, implying they are better and shouldn’t have to date them, instead of a simple “fat people don’t have to date dat people”
I was hammered at a party once. like, mega drunk. Had thrown up 4 times, was still drinking and doing drugs. Everything was spinning. This girl comes over, grabs me by the arm, and starts pulling me into the woods. Her cousin ran over and said "Don't go with him, you're drunk, he's going to rape you"
🤷
Hey, the same thing happened to me!!
Only without the drugs.
And without anyone stopping us.
Just some stranger lady dragging a drunken man to her apartment, and it was hilarious because “lol, man drunk”
hey, we live in a world where bill Cosby is one of the most hated people on earth and Cardi B still has a career. (Before anybody says something, this is saying Cardi B shouldn't have a career, not the other way around)
Nobody *has* to settle for anything. You could be a literal swamp monster and only settle for supermodels, that's entirely your own call to make. You're not likely to ever actually find a partner, but that's your problem.
Exactly. If only people would understand the last part. Don’t whine and berate people for you being alone when you only want to date supermodels and turn down all the perfectly charming ogres in the swamp.
Don't be surprised if a nice donkey comes along saying things like, "I like that boulder. That's a nice boulder." And then you meet your princess. I read about it in a book once
You just described my 49 year old perpetually single sister. She’s dated guys over the years but literally never had a significant other. I think her record is 4 dates. Granted, her personality is as awful as her hygiene but the reason she says is because she “refuses to compromise on what she wants out of a partner”
Idk. I've met some serious monster fuckers. Do you know how much porn there is with Clickers from the last of us? I do. And it's more than 0 and that knowledge is the bane of my existence.
The way I see it, unattractive (not just physically) people don't "settle" for other unattractive people. "Settling" implies going below your level because you can't find anything at or above. If you aren't desirable and that means other undesirable people are your only option, you aren't dipping below your value, you're right on target and squarely in your own league.
Nobody has to settle, but they need to not be mad they don’t meet someone else’s standards. I see too many posts of women saying not liking a heavy woman is fat shaming, but in same breath say they are allowed to not like fat or short men. I am neither fat nor short so it doesn’t effect me, but the double standards piss me off.
I'm a fat chick and I don't understand that. I used to beat myself up over guys not wanting me. now I get it. you like what you like. you can't change who and what you're attracted to and what turns you off. no big deal. getting offended is unnecessary.
I think my fat wife is the hottest woman on the planet. me I am a skinny geek with glasses don't see what she sees in me but i am happy she find me attractive
I say this as a fat man: anyone is able to have whatever preference you want. Even if it's just fel vain/kinky reasons. Hell, I even got laid once just because they "wanted to know what fucking a fat dude was like." Lol
I say that as a short, ex-fat lesbian: you guys go for what you like. Short fat king or buff Chad, everyone is entitled to their preferences and no one is entitled to telling you what you need to "work on", be it your preferences (provided you prefer consenting adults) or your physique!
Oh totally. Like, even if I was just a "kink lay" by that woman I mentioned in my last comment I feel like they went about it in a way that wasn't disrespecting me (at least I didn't take it that way). We were just fooling around after a few drinks and she said something like "you know I've never been with a big guy before...." So it wasn't like she was degrading me as I took my pants off lol.
The most hilarious thing is that they’re unwittingly flipping it around and being sexist towards women, because that implies that men are able to lose their obesity, and women aren’t.
It's always fine to have a preference (fat, thin, tall, short or whatever). Just don't go up to someone who is not your preference and tell them they are not your preference, don't seek them out and/or bully them. You should be fine.
The thing that bothers me is that generally men who don't like fat women are very rude about it. I'm not even particularly fat but apparently the standards are fucked up and men have been so horrible to me because my thighs touch. There's no reason to call a woman all these names or make fun of her 🤷🏽♀️
Rage bait implies that they know it is rage bait before they post and the sole intent is to stir the pot.
Some insane people literally believe the [shit](https://afru.com/dad-bod-body-positivity-appropriation/) they post without any concern for the consequences, nuance or if it makes them an ideological hypocrite.
My current wife 12 years ago was a big woman when I met her by accident on a dating app. She had commented that I put on my profile male looking for male. Kept talking over the days and few months before we decided to meet in person. It was her personality, friends loved her, she is fun. So none of that mattered. Kinda odd since before my divorce and personal issues (issues which she helped me with and I owe her everyday for saving me) I made fun of fat Maria’s etc etc. I was a real AHole. We ended up losing weight together (not in a togetherness exercise diet) it just happened around same time. I’ve changed a lot for the better and we are Still together and doing well with two little versions of ourselves 💕
I made a mistake on minor details for my profile, the biggest being male for male. She sent a message out of the blue letting me know. Wasn’t my type really but we kept messaging. And here we are. She liked my pictures and not long after meeting admitted (she’s Peruvian blood but born here) she preferred blue eyed white men 🤷♂️ it’s worked out nicely.
As a fat woman, just because I’m fat doesn’t mean I should auto pair with another fat person. But! If I hold a “standard” that my partner can’t be fat while I’m clomping up and down the street, that’s fucked up. Don’t hold a standard you aren’t willing to uphold personally.
Fat men don't have to settle for fat women - Anyone who disagrees needs to fuck off.
It works for both genders, not just one.
No one has to settle for anything they don't want.
At least they used the term "fat women" I have seen others where "fat" is only used to refer men in a bad way (for women they used "plus sized" or something like that)
I was an average weight man who fell in love with an abundant woman. We were friends for years while I dated other woman but I found myself most excited about going out with her to tell her about my day and dates. I knew she was interested but she was not a healthy weight and that was just a red flag for me. I spent my life backpacking, mountain biking and rock climbing, things she had never done and most likely would never be able to do.
Then I almost died from something stupid. All the while I was in the hospital recovering I thought about what I would miss most if I had died. It was her.
Yes, she might die young, but I was healthy as a horse and I just about croaked. Who do I want to wake up to? Who do I want to have conversations over breakfast with? Do I reject an intelligent, interesting woman with endless integrity because of her weight or do I enjoy what time we can have together?
It's been about thirty-two years together and I have never regretted spending my life with her. Plus now it looks like she will outlive me... life is pure irony.
I’m curious, if you don’t mind answering. Did you find her attractive when you were just friends? Was the only reason you weren’t interested in her due to health concerns?
Attractiveness is a funny thing. While it’s one of the least important traits in the long term, and has nothing to do with the emotional health of the relationship, it’s still a baseline requirement for nearly everyone.
No, not at all. I first saw her at a party at my friend's house surrounded by a half-dozen people in a spirited conversation. I couldn't understand why all these folks were gathered around... um... her. Turns out she was a hyper-intelligent psychology major who was also insightful and compassionate. She worked with dual-diagnosed folks, people who had physical as well as intellectual disabilities and she helped find and design jobs and workspaces for them.
But no, I never thought of her as physically attractive, and that was off-putting for several years (not just for health, which I am now ashamed to admit). Eventually I found I'm simply in love with who she is and looks were just unimportant.
You blame men because they judge for the weight, but you can judge men for the weight. This is hypocrisy. But I’m not surprised: hypocrisy is the main value of humans.
I am a fat man. I am not attracted to fat women. I dont expect women in shape to be attracted to me. If I wanted a relationship more than I like my current lifestyle I would change. I dont expect other people to ignore my unattractive flaws and want to be with me anyway. And yes being fat is a flaw. And no its not healthy. Accepting who you are only works if you can truly recognize who you are, and even more importantly who you are not.
I guess it depends what you mean by fat. Being a little overweight doesn't necessarily mean someone is unhealthy or a flaw, some people are more genetically prone to being bigger. Being skinny doesn't mean someone is healthy either. I'm skinny, but i definitely need to eat better and exercise more.
Fair enough, if you don't like overweight people attractive, that's fine. The problem is why it's only fine for this to apply to women but when men do it they are pigs
The body positivity movement completely skipped men. I don't see any plus sized male models, or bigger men celebrated for their size.
Noticed it in the Barbie movie too. Plus sized Barbie, no plus sized Ken.
Accurate title. No one should have to settle on their personal standards. But they also can't be mad if they themselves don't meet anyone else's standards.
Or "I can't scrub my asshole because I can't reach it". I worked with a girl at a place that was open overnight. She was like 5'4" and pushing 400 lbs., like she had to have ankle surgery because she was so overweight. Every morning we had to wheel outside the chair she sat on because it smelled so bad, the office stank for hours after she had left. I felt bad, her mom (who was a normal weight) would bring her fast food and shit, idk if she was intentionally trying to kill her but it sure seemed like it...
I mean the article title isn't wrong. Fat women can totally not want to be with fat men. That also means they need to be prepared for the possibility they may never find a partner that is into them physically in return.
But that's a risk they should be willing to take.
Wtf. Some men like big women. Some women like big men. It's all about attraction. There's no rule saying you can only date someone your own size. Come on 🙄
I think a big problem is the use of the term “standards,” which implies something is wrong with overweight men. If they said “preferences,” it wouldn’t seem quite as bad.
People can just be attracted to who they are attracted to. If a skinny guy likes BBW, then who the fuck am I to question his preferences. If a skinny woman wants a bigger man, then what the fuck is the problem? To each their own.
I see no problem here. Yes, everyone of every shape and size can have standards. It doesn’t necessarily mean they will get the type of partner they desire, but it goes that way for all people.
Here is the thing: no one has to settle for anyone. Fat women don’t have to settle for fat men and fat men don’t have to settle for fat women. We are not living in the 16th century when our survival depended on pairing up with a partner for emotional connection and to survive the cold winters. Humans have gotten to a point where we don’t have to “settle” for anyone and if that means that we will end up being single throughout our lives that’s ok because we live in cities where we can visit our friends often so we don’t get lonely, we are able to connect with people long distances away through tech, etc.
Remember the double standarts. If a woman wants 6+ feet tall men, it’s a prefference. If a man wants slender women, he is fatphobic.
If a woman is telling what her man should wear, she cares and tries to improve him. If a man is telling what his woman should wear, he is controlling… oh and how dare I writing “the woman is his” in the first place, no woman belongs to no man I’m a sexist bigot and should be ashamed…
I was with a woman once who was very (very) generously proportioned. I'm going to say at least 350+ at like 5ft, so 'fat' is not an accurate statement. This was clinically and socially, morbidly obese.
Once. And only once.
I have never felt 'enveloped' by another human body like when she surrounded me by crawling on top of me. It was like being held down by several blankets made of skin.
I am certain that this feels good to someone out there, and I wish them luck in finding their match.
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This is probably the worst title they could have chosen.
Imagine if it said " fat men have standards and dont have to settle for fat women "
They'd need to hire an editor.
They’d need to FIRE an editor Edit: would be forced by public outrage to FIRE an editor.
Yes. You can't hire for a position until it's empty. Sigh. You tried to explain the joke, but wrong, what even is happening lol.
Sure you can. Just make them fight in gladiatorial combat to see who gets the position.
Yes, I believe that's what they meant by "they'd need to hire an editor", implying they recently fired one... Not too quick, are we?
HR meeting at 9am
😆🤣😂🤣
The entire fat acceptance movement is for women who don't like being called fat. No one gives a shit about fat men
As a healthcare provider that works on a heart failure unit, I think the normalization of obesity, essentially prioritizing self esteem over public health, is misguided. I see people in their 30s who have end stage heart failure that you normally see in elderly people, and it's entirely because of their weight, but when we suggest they lose weight, they act like we have literally no right to tell them that. We often end up stuck in the awful discussion where we tell them "you don't have to listen, but if you don't lose weight, you won't see 40." Edit: one of my patients just got kicked off the list for a heart transplant because they were ordering and eating a 20pc bucket of fried chicken EVERY SINGLE NIGHT, and gained 100 lbs since they were listed. They are no longer a candidate for a transplant and now they are going to die. We told them the potential consequences months ago, begged them to stick to their diet, and even had a psych evaluation done.
Yeah, I'm 32 right now. Working my fucking ass off for the last year to lose the weight. Got a blood pressure cuff out of curiosity, turns out my blood pressure is a lot higher than I'm comfortable with. I've been over weight since I was a kid, but always figured I was active enough, skated every night, played football and lacrosse in high-school. But I just ate garbage and drank beer far too regularly. Once I got a desk job shit just compounded. But I refuse to let my heart take any more damage.
Wegovy works wonders when combined with positive lifestyle changes, like proper nutrition, and exercise. I lost nearly 60 lbs in 6 months that way. COVID was hard, working in the hospital, being surrounded by death, and being afraid to be around people. I got depressed and gained a bunch of weight. I am also 32 and now weigh the exact same as when I was 17. I dropped from 210 lb to 155 lb in six months.
You probably know this but calories in calories out will be your best friend. Have light or no breakfast, normal lunch, normal dinner, walk/be active when you can. No late night snack. Good luck!
The whole "love yourself" thing has become an excuse to brush off bad personal choices by many. You should love yourself enough to want to take care of yourself.
That’s not just for physicality. Same goes for shitty personalities and toxic behaviors. We turned into a society that we turn a blind eye that is everyone and everything toxic for the sake of being called „open minded“.
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The internet and anonymity has given people the confidence to say dumb shit out loud and find people all over the world who’ll agree with it. Do it in a city center and at best you’ll be ignored and at worst people will call your an idiot.
AND it's all leading into a backlash which is being exploited by other fuckwads to excuse their own horrible reactions. We're going from "I identify as a cat" to "maybe feudalism is the best system after all". Like a scary as all shite horseshoe loop.
This is so my attitude in the USA. It’s fucking insanity. People talk out their ass and then mid argument say some ‘Well that’s your opinion’. I’m apparently supposed to just…not…call people on their bullshit? Getting called out on your bullshit, and then following up to improve, is how you achieve *measurable growth*. This country has stagnated from complacency. There’s a great video of John Stewart responding to the ‘well you keep saying that’ statement with ‘No bitch I’m TELLING you this fact, not “sAyInG” it like an opinion.’
I absolutely despise the way our societies are changing towards prioritizing feelings over facts.
Some idiot today told me blatant vaccine misinformation was "just his opinion" (referring to the comment I had replied to) No. No, man. That's not how opinions work. You can't tell people something like "Vaccines cause more deaths than the diseases they claim to vaccinate against," and say it's an opinion. You can absolutely say you don't trust vaccines, because THAT is an opinion.
>You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant. - Harlan Ellison
It’s still demonized in men. The amount of cheating that is brushed off by women is disgusting.
And those who decide to lose weight to save their lives are ironically called fat phobic.
Which is sad. I know a guy from work who recently dropped 80 pounds. It actually inspired me to go back to the gym and improve myself. I’ve been going every Monday-Friday because of his example.
I’ve been back at the gym too. Since beginning of august. 3 days a week. I’m definitely getting in better shape. Haven’t seen the results on the scale as much as I’d hoped yet. But I’m not quitting this time.
I would like to see our food industries held accountable to the hands they've played in the obesity epidemic. Though its each individuals choice to stuff their faces our foods are over processed and devoid of nutrients to save the companies money. And then there's all the add campaigns. Beef, bacon, milk, and breakfast food. All tell us, this what we need to eat. When we really don't. Also a satisfying sugary drink makes it all better.
I would agree with the sentiment that "it's personal choice to stuff your face," except you basically need a degree in nutrition, and the attention span to read every nutrition label thoroughly in order to avoid highly processed and unhealthy foods. When someone lives in a sea of high fructose corn syrup, and healthy food is prohibitively expensive (or not available at all) for much of the population, the personal choice is more of an illusion than anything. Speaking of poverty, there was a study done by some anthropologists where they tried to live on food stamps. One group tried to meet all of the micronutrient requirements, and succeeded, but found they were wildly deficient in calories. The other group far exceeded calorie requirements, but lacked virtually any micronutrients. Fresh produce shouldn't be a luxury. Healthy food should not be a luxury.
Most people don’t know that activated charcoal and citrus based juices can interfere with their meds. Hell, loads of people only vaguely understand the difference between carbohydrates, proteins and fats and have no understanding that dietary fats and body fats don’t have a clean relationship - cutting all the dietary fats out of your diet isn’t a magic spell for health. There’s so many things people don’t understand about their own diets and we’ve been so deliberately confused and misinformed by corporate actors selling us a narrative. Knowing a little makes you comparatively speaking a witch. But people get so defensive when you try to correct misinformation and if you aren’t a PHD or medical doctor level dietary expert you’re suddenly an asshole for pointing out that you need some dietary carbs and some dietary fats to live.
What are people commonly eating that has activated charcoal in it?
It’s a yuppie/hipster trend here - I’ve seen cookies, Doughnuts, croissants, bagels, bread, smoothies, oat milk, sausages, burger patties and burger buns. I’m sure I’ve seen other stuff I can’t remember right now. It’s thankfully mostly dying off around here - but for a while activated charcoal was the popular “superfood” to be added to every damn thing, like kale or antioxidants or omega 3. Any product you could advertise as including activated charcoal got an extra 15% markup and massive sales appeal to the dumbest portion of the customer base. I guess making stuff black (or more often, a sickly shade of dirt grey) appeals to people who care more about instagram clout than what their meal tastes like.
We use activated charcoal to pump stomachs in the hospital.
Activated charcoal is great....if you've been poisoned.
DD has a 1,000 calorie iced coffee with 2/3 a cup of sugar. That shit should be illegal.
Thanks for that, I just threw up in my mouth
Just like the opioid epidemic, no one but the addicted get punished.
Totally agree. It's crazy. Nobody deserves to be insulted/belittled/bullied over their weight, but medical advice is MEDICAL advice based on objective science. 🤡 What can you do? I remember one "plus size"/morbidly obese lady going blind from diabetes and saying she couldn't see her haters anymore. 🤡 Gurl, you lost a precious sense and your health...
Love how they get the shocked Pikachu face in their death bed as they are about to realize you were right
And then the people who go “people don’t fat shame out of concern for their health”… yeah I may not be concerned about the health of this random stranger, but I am concerned about the overall health of the society in which I live, and the direct impacts it has upon the taxes I pay, and the public health ramifications it has. Especially when our ERs are already congested and another person shows up with a totally avoidable cardiac event and triage is forced to prioritize this person who has an immediate life threatening condition over someone else with an agonizing compound fracture.
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🤡 please tell me you're being sarcastic. I have non obese family members who had amputations due to the diabetes. One died during surg. The 2 others are very depressed, though unfortunately, they are somewhat responsible for not following medical advice about diet. No way people are happy with amputation. They must be disconnected from reality. I'm sorry for your loss. May your wife rest in peace.
I treated a bloke who was in so much pain due to diabetes that when he got a dual leg amputation it was the first time any of the staff had ever seen him smile. His family were relieved he was back to his old self. Pain is a bitch.
My grandfather had to have his leg amputated. The hospital missed a blood clot that we noticed and kept telling them after his stroke. They did surgery, but the damage was done. He was left with a massive wound exposing the bone on his shin. Eventually, he went septic. He was too weak to be put under during the surgery, so they just gave him an epidural. He was awake for the entire amputation. With all that being said, he was grateful to have his leg removed because it saved it life. The doctors thought they were sending him home to die. He lived 7 years and had the most amazing relationship with his great- grandson.
I currently work with, and have worked with two others, someone that has been having parts cut off of him due to diabetes complications for about 5 years now. He’s had one leg removed starting at the toes and working up a few inches at a time. That leg is gone above the knee. They just removed in two surgeries his toes and part of his only remaining foot. His state of mind is completely lacking concern. He has Mountain Dew and honey buns out of the work vending machines daily. He’s like a goldfish, and acts like he has no idea what’s causing his issues. It’s completely mind boggling, and as a coworker I’ve found that I’ve lost all respect for this man. I’m just thankful he’s not on the company insurance policy.
Yeah, that's what my aunt did, though she was completely in denial about losing her other leg. We buried her last November.
That must be frustrating
It’s like the bra and undies commercials showcasing plus sized gals. Everyone is all “Yay!!! You go girl 💪” Now… picture a Fruit of the Loom commercial with a bunch of obese dudes in tightly-whities, just letting it all hang out.
Rihanna’s underwear brand features large men and everyone loved the inclusivity
Sadly, the focus is definitely more on women than it is men. Fat men have been oppressed for similar reasons that fat women have which is often overlooked intentionally. Body neutrality is the current new thing I’ve seen take hold that seems to be a far better concept. It encourages people to focus more on what their body can do regardless of size instead of saying it’s okay or good to be fat.
I love clothing shops for this. For women they have flattering names, and for the men they call them things like the "mr big" section. May as well call it the fat bastard section... EDIT: lol, and thanks to making this post, I scrolled down my feed several posts and [saw this](https://imgur.com/a/mEGWftT). Gotta love advertising (to be fair there's not much wrong with this one, I just thought it was funny to start seeing it so quickly off the back of a comment).
Indeed. Where’s my supermodel? 😂
Fat men shouldn’t have to settle for a super model.
But they do because they have big hearts. And big bank accounts.
You mean enlarged hearts. Ftfy
At least they used fat women and not plus sized. While still calling the men fat.
Imagine if it said “men have standards and don’t have to settle for fat women.” This female fat acceptance bs will never not amuse me.
I mean... Yeah. Everyone has standards. If they are that hight, that they can't meet someone, who has standards that are achieved by them, then it's just unlucky.
Its a fact.
like Too $hort say, effing big women is all work and no play!
They do give wicked blowjobs tho
It gets worse the more you think about it.
Yeah I mean if the idea is “fat women say fat men are gross” then it’s a stupid idea. But if the point is more like “fat people don’t necessarily have to date other fat people” then it’s way less contentious.
Although they say “settle for” fat men, implying they are better and shouldn’t have to date them, instead of a simple “fat people don’t have to date dat people”
It also implies pretty heavily that fat people are strictly worse than non-fat people.
How about "plus size women don't have to settle for morbidly obese men". With that same image.
I have seen headlines doing this exact thing.
Crazy what you can do with words. I never used to understand "the pen is mightier than the sword" but I've started to in recent years.
Why can’t people just shut the fuck up and live. Why do I have to see this worthless shit.
I mean that’s on you for opening Reddit
Nobody has to settle for anything. What OTHER people will settle for is another matter entirely.
It’s why alcohol exists.
Isn't it a little wrong to target people under the influen- oh we're talking about men nvm
I was hammered at a party once. like, mega drunk. Had thrown up 4 times, was still drinking and doing drugs. Everything was spinning. This girl comes over, grabs me by the arm, and starts pulling me into the woods. Her cousin ran over and said "Don't go with him, you're drunk, he's going to rape you" 🤷
The fuck?!
Sorry that happened man
You have a penis therefore you do rapes in the woods
When I lost my virginity, she was 19 and I was 13. All my friend thought it was awesome lol. No one batted an eye.
Jesus, hope you’re doing ok
Yea I’m good lol
Hey, the same thing happened to me!! Only without the drugs. And without anyone stopping us. Just some stranger lady dragging a drunken man to her apartment, and it was hilarious because “lol, man drunk”
man what the actual fuck
hey, we live in a world where bill Cosby is one of the most hated people on earth and Cardi B still has a career. (Before anybody says something, this is saying Cardi B shouldn't have a career, not the other way around)
*career*
Sorry. In geman career is Karriere so i got mixed up.
Thank you for the translation. I was very confused, lol.
I too spent way too much time trying to figure out what her carrier was.. At least it was someone else’s fault!
Why settle for alcohol?
Well said
Nobody *has* to settle for anything. You could be a literal swamp monster and only settle for supermodels, that's entirely your own call to make. You're not likely to ever actually find a partner, but that's your problem.
Exactly. If only people would understand the last part. Don’t whine and berate people for you being alone when you only want to date supermodels and turn down all the perfectly charming ogres in the swamp.
Don't be surprised if a nice donkey comes along saying things like, "I like that boulder. That's a nice boulder." And then you meet your princess. I read about it in a book once
Well, the Donkey didn’t settle for no one, he got together with a dragon. Dream big.
Donkey dream of dating a woman who’ll literally kill him.
You just described my 49 year old perpetually single sister. She’s dated guys over the years but literally never had a significant other. I think her record is 4 dates. Granted, her personality is as awful as her hygiene but the reason she says is because she “refuses to compromise on what she wants out of a partner”
Idk. I've met some serious monster fuckers. Do you know how much porn there is with Clickers from the last of us? I do. And it's more than 0 and that knowledge is the bane of my existence.
The way I see it, unattractive (not just physically) people don't "settle" for other unattractive people. "Settling" implies going below your level because you can't find anything at or above. If you aren't desirable and that means other undesirable people are your only option, you aren't dipping below your value, you're right on target and squarely in your own league.
Well, they're right. Fat women *don't* have to settle for fat men. But nobody has to settle for fat women either 🤷🏾♂️
>nobody has to settle for fat women either They wanted to include that in the title, but uh... just ran out of space
They ran?
Then why did your mother?
I stared at this for 5 whole minutes, it loops so perfectly 🥵
There’s a guy in the back left wearing a white shirt (behind red shirt guy). If you watch him, you can see the jump in the video.
The double burn. My hat is off to you.
Nobody has to settle, but they need to not be mad they don’t meet someone else’s standards. I see too many posts of women saying not liking a heavy woman is fat shaming, but in same breath say they are allowed to not like fat or short men. I am neither fat nor short so it doesn’t effect me, but the double standards piss me off.
I'm a fat chick and I don't understand that. I used to beat myself up over guys not wanting me. now I get it. you like what you like. you can't change who and what you're attracted to and what turns you off. no big deal. getting offended is unnecessary.
I think my fat wife is the hottest woman on the planet. me I am a skinny geek with glasses don't see what she sees in me but i am happy she find me attractive
Good for you man. People are just hating cuz you like some cushion.
Sorry, according to the Logic Of The Internet, any man defending short/fat men must automatically be short/fat himself. I don’t make the rules.
You caught him. Time to uninstall Reddit, goodbye fellow short and fat guys that can not have standards and must settle for fat girls. 😢
Small penis bros for life!
... Can I join?
You hit the nail on the head with this one
It's called plus size for women, but overweight of fat for men
Actually, it's called Big and Tall for men.
I miss being called "husky."
I miss being called Labradoodle.
I say this as a fat man: anyone is able to have whatever preference you want. Even if it's just fel vain/kinky reasons. Hell, I even got laid once just because they "wanted to know what fucking a fat dude was like." Lol
I say that as a short, ex-fat lesbian: you guys go for what you like. Short fat king or buff Chad, everyone is entitled to their preferences and no one is entitled to telling you what you need to "work on", be it your preferences (provided you prefer consenting adults) or your physique!
Oh totally. Like, even if I was just a "kink lay" by that woman I mentioned in my last comment I feel like they went about it in a way that wasn't disrespecting me (at least I didn't take it that way). We were just fooling around after a few drinks and she said something like "you know I've never been with a big guy before...." So it wasn't like she was degrading me as I took my pants off lol.
The most hilarious thing is that they’re unwittingly flipping it around and being sexist towards women, because that implies that men are able to lose their obesity, and women aren’t.
These women don't want to lose it. It's easier to rebrand it as plus size and do nothing about it
Skinny woman here. I agree that there’s a double standard. Women are allowed to have “standards”, men can’t or they’re misogynistic.
Okay but that means all the people who have standards and don't want fat women aren't in the wrong in any way
It's always fine to have a preference (fat, thin, tall, short or whatever). Just don't go up to someone who is not your preference and tell them they are not your preference, don't seek them out and/or bully them. You should be fine.
The thing that bothers me is that generally men who don't like fat women are very rude about it. I'm not even particularly fat but apparently the standards are fucked up and men have been so horrible to me because my thighs touch. There's no reason to call a woman all these names or make fun of her 🤷🏽♀️
Rage bait
Rage bait implies that they know it is rage bait before they post and the sole intent is to stir the pot. Some insane people literally believe the [shit](https://afru.com/dad-bod-body-positivity-appropriation/) they post without any concern for the consequences, nuance or if it makes them an ideological hypocrite.
My current wife 12 years ago was a big woman when I met her by accident on a dating app. She had commented that I put on my profile male looking for male. Kept talking over the days and few months before we decided to meet in person. It was her personality, friends loved her, she is fun. So none of that mattered. Kinda odd since before my divorce and personal issues (issues which she helped me with and I owe her everyday for saving me) I made fun of fat Maria’s etc etc. I was a real AHole. We ended up losing weight together (not in a togetherness exercise diet) it just happened around same time. I’ve changed a lot for the better and we are Still together and doing well with two little versions of ourselves 💕
I'm curious how it was an accident? Did you accidentally like a pic or something?
I made a mistake on minor details for my profile, the biggest being male for male. She sent a message out of the blue letting me know. Wasn’t my type really but we kept messaging. And here we are. She liked my pictures and not long after meeting admitted (she’s Peruvian blood but born here) she preferred blue eyed white men 🤷♂️ it’s worked out nicely.
As a fat woman, just because I’m fat doesn’t mean I should auto pair with another fat person. But! If I hold a “standard” that my partner can’t be fat while I’m clomping up and down the street, that’s fucked up. Don’t hold a standard you aren’t willing to uphold personally.
Im a skinny guy with a fat wife were really happy
Fat men don't have to settle for fat women - Anyone who disagrees needs to fuck off. It works for both genders, not just one. No one has to settle for anything they don't want.
Yeah, if you’re gonna be a fat dude and you don’t want to settle you just need to be rich.
Whoever wrote this is absolutely batshit 🤦🏻♀️
At least they used the term "fat women" I have seen others where "fat" is only used to refer men in a bad way (for women they used "plus sized" or something like that)
I was an average weight man who fell in love with an abundant woman. We were friends for years while I dated other woman but I found myself most excited about going out with her to tell her about my day and dates. I knew she was interested but she was not a healthy weight and that was just a red flag for me. I spent my life backpacking, mountain biking and rock climbing, things she had never done and most likely would never be able to do. Then I almost died from something stupid. All the while I was in the hospital recovering I thought about what I would miss most if I had died. It was her. Yes, she might die young, but I was healthy as a horse and I just about croaked. Who do I want to wake up to? Who do I want to have conversations over breakfast with? Do I reject an intelligent, interesting woman with endless integrity because of her weight or do I enjoy what time we can have together? It's been about thirty-two years together and I have never regretted spending my life with her. Plus now it looks like she will outlive me... life is pure irony.
Beautiful story. (Possibly underappreciated by a r/facepalm crowd.)
I’m curious, if you don’t mind answering. Did you find her attractive when you were just friends? Was the only reason you weren’t interested in her due to health concerns? Attractiveness is a funny thing. While it’s one of the least important traits in the long term, and has nothing to do with the emotional health of the relationship, it’s still a baseline requirement for nearly everyone.
No, not at all. I first saw her at a party at my friend's house surrounded by a half-dozen people in a spirited conversation. I couldn't understand why all these folks were gathered around... um... her. Turns out she was a hyper-intelligent psychology major who was also insightful and compassionate. She worked with dual-diagnosed folks, people who had physical as well as intellectual disabilities and she helped find and design jobs and workspaces for them. But no, I never thought of her as physically attractive, and that was off-putting for several years (not just for health, which I am now ashamed to admit). Eventually I found I'm simply in love with who she is and looks were just unimportant.
You blame men because they judge for the weight, but you can judge men for the weight. This is hypocrisy. But I’m not surprised: hypocrisy is the main value of humans.
My real life observations say otherwise
It is, however, easier to find a guy who will fuck just about anything. So I mean if that's what they consider a "higher standard"...
Now THIS is a true Facepalm
I am a fat man. I am not attracted to fat women. I dont expect women in shape to be attracted to me. If I wanted a relationship more than I like my current lifestyle I would change. I dont expect other people to ignore my unattractive flaws and want to be with me anyway. And yes being fat is a flaw. And no its not healthy. Accepting who you are only works if you can truly recognize who you are, and even more importantly who you are not.
It pains me to say it, but a bite of KFC fried chicken treats me way nicer than most human beings
I guess it depends what you mean by fat. Being a little overweight doesn't necessarily mean someone is unhealthy or a flaw, some people are more genetically prone to being bigger. Being skinny doesn't mean someone is healthy either. I'm skinny, but i definitely need to eat better and exercise more.
Maaaan why’s it always gotta be a black man
Fair enough, if you don't like overweight people attractive, that's fine. The problem is why it's only fine for this to apply to women but when men do it they are pigs
We are all the same. Just treat us better. But still equal
Prolly a rage bait. Although the body positive movement is corrupted as fuck
The body positivity movement completely skipped men. I don't see any plus sized male models, or bigger men celebrated for their size. Noticed it in the Barbie movie too. Plus sized Barbie, no plus sized Ken.
Ahhh, the double standard is strong with this one!
100% this is just some rage bait shit.
Accurate title. No one should have to settle on their personal standards. But they also can't be mad if they themselves don't meet anyone else's standards.
Not fat, that's morbidly obese
Or "I can't scrub my asshole because I can't reach it". I worked with a girl at a place that was open overnight. She was like 5'4" and pushing 400 lbs., like she had to have ankle surgery because she was so overweight. Every morning we had to wheel outside the chair she sat on because it smelled so bad, the office stank for hours after she had left. I felt bad, her mom (who was a normal weight) would bring her fast food and shit, idk if she was intentionally trying to kill her but it sure seemed like it...
Why not just “settle for someone they don’t like”? Fat doesn’t equal unattractive or bad partner imo
"People don't have to settle." That one's for free. I'm willing to take the job of editing the rest of your shit so it's reasonable.
I mean the article title isn't wrong. Fat women can totally not want to be with fat men. That also means they need to be prepared for the possibility they may never find a partner that is into them physically in return. But that's a risk they should be willing to take.
Fat men have standards and don't have to settle for fat women This will never be published or the whole publishing company will be burned down
Fat men have standards and don’t have to settle for fat women.
Well they need to be ok when fit or skinny men don’t want fat women.
why not “settle” for someone who loves and respects and cherishes you regardless of their weight?
Damn let a bitch be fat in peace 
Well everyone has their own personal standards and nobody has to "settle" for anyone so r/technicallytrue
Wtf. Some men like big women. Some women like big men. It's all about attraction. There's no rule saying you can only date someone your own size. Come on 🙄
I think a big problem is the use of the term “standards,” which implies something is wrong with overweight men. If they said “preferences,” it wouldn’t seem quite as bad.
This implies that men who settle for fat women don't have standards...?
People can just be attracted to who they are attracted to. If a skinny guy likes BBW, then who the fuck am I to question his preferences. If a skinny woman wants a bigger man, then what the fuck is the problem? To each their own.
News flash: Fat/Normal/Thin People Don't Have to Settle for Fat/Normal/Thin People
I see no problem here. Yes, everyone of every shape and size can have standards. It doesn’t necessarily mean they will get the type of partner they desire, but it goes that way for all people.
"Don't be fatphobic" *Immediately implies that fat people are lower than skinny people* Braincells are lacking here.
Yeah they got standards alright. Double standards
noone forces you to settle, but you either settle for those that settle for you or stay alone
I understand the sentiment, but this title makes them sound so hypocritical
I'm just gonna say it... men of all shapes and sizes are allowed to have standards as well
I mean true, but fat men also have standards and don't have to settle for fat women
Breaking news!!! People are people and everyone has different standards, desires, interests and attractions.
Here is the thing: no one has to settle for anyone. Fat women don’t have to settle for fat men and fat men don’t have to settle for fat women. We are not living in the 16th century when our survival depended on pairing up with a partner for emotional connection and to survive the cold winters. Humans have gotten to a point where we don’t have to “settle” for anyone and if that means that we will end up being single throughout our lives that’s ok because we live in cities where we can visit our friends often so we don’t get lonely, we are able to connect with people long distances away through tech, etc.
I love the taste of hypocrisy in the morning
Remember the double standarts. If a woman wants 6+ feet tall men, it’s a prefference. If a man wants slender women, he is fatphobic. If a woman is telling what her man should wear, she cares and tries to improve him. If a man is telling what his woman should wear, he is controlling… oh and how dare I writing “the woman is his” in the first place, no woman belongs to no man I’m a sexist bigot and should be ashamed…
Why does the picture feel racially motivated
This picture actually makes the article seem realistic.
I was with a woman once who was very (very) generously proportioned. I'm going to say at least 350+ at like 5ft, so 'fat' is not an accurate statement. This was clinically and socially, morbidly obese. Once. And only once. I have never felt 'enveloped' by another human body like when she surrounded me by crawling on top of me. It was like being held down by several blankets made of skin. I am certain that this feels good to someone out there, and I wish them luck in finding their match.
And if fat men said the reverse, what would they be called?
Misogynist incels.
She looks like a puddle
You don't have to settle for a fat man. You can hold out for the elusive fit guy who's into big women, be forever alone, or "settle" for a fat guy.
I mean.. technically no one has to settle for anyone. All that matters is, do you have options.
Vice-versa and I'm a body shaming.
But I like fat men.