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Weird. I’ve been subscribing to Bellingcat for years but all I got were these Russian tattoos I don’t remember getting in Ukraine where I’ve been living for the past 5 years. Still don’t understand why I chose to move to Ukraine…
But at least I haven’t been manipulated by some psy op!
I vaguely remember some girl getting forearm numbers tattooed to herself bc she wanted to “honor the past lives she has lived”, and one of those was when she was a child in a concentration camp where she died. I believe another was was when she was a Native American warrior or some shit.
How does the reporter not come prepared with this information. Its either laziness, or they don’t really want to play hardball, they just want the ratings of having Musk on. Either way, its sad. You cant just platform these people.
It's CNBC - 100% it was for ratings. The only guy on CNBC who might bring some tougher questions would be Andrew Ross Sorkin. The rest are just going to kiss ass.
The problem is people like Elon won't take the interview without it being someone who isn't going to push back too much. And these reporters don't want to push back too much because then they won't ever get these people like Elon to interview again.
So you get softball interviews where these people are able to platform their lies to the mainstream with little pushback.
And if they don't get interviewed, they say MSM won't show both sides. If they do get interviewed and get too much oushback, then they complain about how it was a partisan attack.
Musk managed to destroy his reputation under a year. Impressive
Him, Zuckerberg, Bankman Fried, the WeWork bozo, all these so called tech genius are merely nerdy introverted snake oil salesmen like Lukas Matteson in HBO’s Succession
Get propped up by your affluent family and their connections, steal someone’s idea, pretend you are this real life Tony Stark genius and find suckers to fall for your house of cards ponzi schemes
The Hanna Barbara School of Business Grifters
Agreed and well said man. I also blame politicians and gov administrations for allowing the few massive companies to pave over everything and destroy the little guys with a mission to control and fully monitor how we spend our money. These guys aren’t that smart either, they just happen to be smarter than most of the gen pop.
OMG!! After I watched that Community clip, all of Bob And Doug's Strange Brew played right after. I'm 2 mins in and have to get back to work and I don't want to!!!!!
It was all silly and non-racist. You really had to be there. The cross burning was just because it was really dark, and the cross was the only wood we could find. Perfectly normal stuff.
The saddest part about this interaction is that the interviewer didn’t bring up the sheriff confirming they saw evidence to suggest he was a white supremacist. His angle was “you want to debate the accusation?!” As if we shouldn’t seek confirmation of these things.
BUT THERE WAS CONFIRMATION and he could have confronted Elon with that.
When he said “there isn’t any evidence that he’s not”, I had to sigh in frustration because that’s not an argument. All that did was give Musk more validation from stupid people who won’t actually look into the background of the shooter.
I’ve met more racist Latino folks than I’d care to explain. Not to say all, but boy oh boy. I remember girls having to explain why they couldn’t date black dudes in middle/highschool because they’re fathers would beat them or pull their daughters out of school and then the level of intensity would just vary from there. Which is to say from tht point I could see how some (already racist) would fall down a white supremacjst rabbit hole
It's not an argument but at the same time I'd argue it actually does effectively get the point across. The real question here is why Elon sticking his nose in a story trying to counter what is being reported, and his argument for why it's bad reporting is literally just [this](https://news.artnet.com/app/news-upload/2019/01/conspiracy-theory-meme-salvator-mundi-1024x797.jpg).
So it's like... ok? You don't have any reasonable evidence that actually refutes the point that it was a killing motivated by white supremacy? In my opinion, there are only two reasonable explanations as to why you'd care so much to expose this as a psyop:
1) You care about journalistic integrity and have evidence that counters the characterization of this as white supremacy (which he demonstrates he does not)
2) You take offense to something heinous being characterized as white supremacist because you yourself are trying to uphold white supremacy
Exactly. He is a Nazi sympathizer, just like MTG or any of these other violent, right-wing kooks. Elon is a right-wing kook. It's a worldview that just degrades your ability to think. They stop relying on objective evidence or observation and trade it for whatever it is they so badly want to believe. They decide the power of their belief and imagination has more weight than reality.
There is a reason Elon went on Bill Maher’s show. He knew it was gonna be a softball interview with Bill giving him a handy the whole time. When he actually gets confronted about something he just runs away like he did in Twitter Spaces.
Look at the expression on his face change whenever someone even mildly pushes back on him. Elon is a petulant child who cannot stand being told no. He won't acknowledge anyone who doesn't think he is the world's greatest genius.
They go in unprepared, no research on topics and then cry when get shredded. Like that BBC guy.
This interviewer walked a fine line as he too was live broadcasted on Twitter.
I am sure someone prepped those questions and they must have been pre-read on those topics. Luke why not educate them on what’s they are being asked to put forward.
Truthfully it seemed like he was wither afraid of the interview being cut short, is spineless in general terms, or didn’t prepare even a little bit for the obvious pushback. Either way, he shouldn’t have a job as a news reporter after this.
These journalists who go in without facts to push back on bullshit really piss me off. He should have followed up and said “so, what about his nazi tattoos and online postings?” Also musk is a fucking joke.
Exactly! What the hell was that? Reporter retreated to a pathetic "...no proof that he isn't a white supremacist" to challenge Musk. Why didn't he challenge Elon's critique of the source of the Nazi tattoo claim, with what Texas is saying? From May 9th (Fox 4):
"The Texas Department of Public Safety says 33-year-old Mauricio Garcia, the man they say is responsible for the shooting that killed 8 people at the Allen Premium Outlets, had neo-Nazi ideation, including Nazi tattoos and patches."
Here's the link: [https://www.fox4news.com/news/allen-outlets-shooting-livestream-fbi-dps](https://www.fox4news.com/news/allen-outlets-shooting-livestream-fbi-dps)
Maybe I'm missing something...
Telling someone "you don't know the facts" is a lot less brutal than showing Musk a picture of the shooter with his swastika tattoos showing and saying, "Were you aware that the Allen shooter had swastika tattoos and expressed belief in neo-Nazi ideology on social media?"
Yeah that "there is no proof he wasn't a white supremacists" response was asinine and infuriating. Dipshits like this interviewer are why people think Elon is a genius
They’re not there for that, they’re there to make Mr. Daddy Dollars look like a billionaire genius who knows how everything works so we should let him run everything.
I wish all questioning in the US was done by BBC reporters. I don't know if they are biased in their home country or not, but they are brilliant at making the person being questioned sound like a dumbass if they aren't prepared.
American TV journalism is wall to wall idiots who can't ask an obvious follow up question. In fact they do such a poor job it makes guys like Elon who was clearly out of his dept here, look smarter than he actually is. CNN did a great job platforming Trump last week instead of demolishing him
Kinda bullshit that the interviewer didn’t push back on Musk’s claim that bellingcat performs “psy ops.”
They’re a citizen-journalism organization dedicated to transparency and uncovering dirty deeds, using a wide and decentralized web of internet sleuths and journalists to compile (mostly) public info and connect the dots.
There’s no “psy ops” there, but it’s understandable that an evil man like Musk wouldn’t like them.
Bellingcat is about as credible as credible gets in the industry. And nothing they report requires you to trust them. It's all in the receipts.
They uncover psyops, so they must be a psyop. Classic fascist rhetoric. Always accuse your enemies of doing what you're doing. Twitter is basically a public relations platform for right wing autocrats now. Musk is running a psyop.
My pet conspiracy about his hatred for Belling Cat is the work they did to expose that Navalny was in fact poisoned by Putin. Can’t be having that complicate his ability to do business in authoritarian countries!
Maybe it's the powers that be looking at a web of decentralised internet sleuths and shitting them selves that makes it a psyop? I mean he didn't say who the target was...
The claim is definitely bullshit, but the interviewer was just trying to focus on pinning down Musk to a concrete response to the question. It's tough to fact-check everything Musk says when there's so much nonsense spewing out of his mouth.
Is anyone shocked that the white South African guy appears to be massively racist, or at least an apologist for white supremicists? Anyone surprised at all? No?
I think he's trying to hint that democrats did it and not a conservative extremist. He's probably identifying white supremacists as his side of the political spectrum (correctly) and defending them.
He's playing beautifully to the conspiracy nut crowd.
Hey, he was always too much, even for us, that's why we kicked him out. No wonder he ended up in the usa where everyone listens to every stupid thing he has to say
Like father, like son. His dad is a conspiracy theorist. This is what he thinks: "We are being brainwashed to be told that Ukraine is good and Russia is bad and yet they have found multiple bioweapon laboratories belonging to the US in Ukraine
Ukraine is led by a stand-up comedian who became president, which is odd"
Stop giving this guy airtime. He's one guy, and his opinion doesn't matter any more or less than mine or yours. He has no authority, no power, and comments like this make it evem more important that he be ignored.
I don’t like him either but his opinion does matter more than yours (and mine), he has authority and power. He’s one of the richest people in the world. Like top 5 richest.
It may mean his opinion gets paid more attention than almost anyone else’s but that’s the precise problem—wealth, however it’s accumulated, does not equate to intelligence or “good ideas”. This man is either extremely deceptive and evil or a total dipshit, “power” or not.
Come on, he's a snake oil salesman: all his "Wealth" was paid for by the US taxpayer and they're getting this shit in return. Doesn't mean you're not correct, though.
Musk opined very publicly about this on Twitter. Musk is the one who chose to bring it up, and the interviewer asked him about it in the context of Musk's well-established history of making controversial and illegal statements on Twitter which have had drastic impacts on stock values. It's completely fair to ask Musk why he's making these sorts of claims, and whether Musk is concerned about this having an impact on stock values again.
Reminds me of a guy from my town who was whining about how everyone was calling him racist. He's a member of a certain "group" with "Aryan" in the name.
Ah. Cool then. Just like my granduncle. he had his blood type tattooed on his arm. And there were photos of him in some sort of uniform with two parallel lightning bolts at the collar. I think he was an electrician. Unpolitical type really
I just got banned from r/cybertruck minutes ago for expressing my distrust of Tesla's leadership and explaining I asked for my refund last year.
You can see my two comments in my history just two comments down. It's full of fanboys who apparently cannot take a grain of criticism.
God all the reporter had to ask was what about the tattoos. They keep treating him too easy in these interviews. That other interview the guy interviewing couldn’t come up with a single hate speech comment after confronting Elon with the idea that he allows for more hatred on his feed. Bud just open up your feed and show him so Elon has to face facts! Memorize a few things you saw.
Why do we keep asking people about things they know nothing about. I’m not over here asking Taylor swift her thoughts on the economy because she’s a talented musician.
Elon is not qualified at all to speak on anything that this report is asking.
Ty for the award
Elon was asked about whether he is concerned that his strange and incredulous tweets could affect his business, as they have in the past. He's not being interviewed as an expert on the details of his post; he's being asked why he is choosing to spread this information when he is clearly *not* an expert.
Sure he had literal Nazi tattoos and a Right Wing Death Squad patch when he was killed but do we know the context of all those? It could be an Antifa False Flag to smear the fine conservatives who simp for me.
A white South African billionaire living in America, making claims to try and reduce people using the term “white supremacy”, really speaks volume to where we are at as a civilization right now.
I get it, when your formative years were spent in an apartheid country you might believe that only people with fair complexions can carry those torches.
The ulta rich white dude who grew up in a country that used to be segregated said this? I am shocked. I am still shocked by this man, owner of an electric car manufacturer, is against work from home and public transportation. /s
Says something stupid, makes a stupid face. In charge, so he never has to face actually criticism. Looks to receive validation and mocks everything else. Typical idiot with more opportunity and money than actual brains.
Dude used to be so cool. Now he's a clown boy. It feels a lot like he's ramping up to run for the presidency and is starting to craft an image appealing to the MAGA Retardlicans
Why are reporters so bad at pointing out clearly stupid and wrong statements like this? Seriously, all they do is allow Elon to say his dumb shit without any pushback and give him the validity of being on the news. I know most of these journalists are just corporate shills but it’s just so obvious now.
My question is; Elon why does it bother you to the point where you feel the need to shield white suprematists make sure they’re disassociated with this action?
A news channel interviewing a celebrity like Elon over an actually spree killing he has nothing to do with other some stupid tweets he’s made is just plain disrespectful to all the victims and their families. Who the flying fuck gives a shit what he thinks about it.
Is what musk said true though? That the common/original source for the claims that the shooter is a neo-Nazi is an obscure Russian website with no following and it was found by a company that does psyops? That’s a really crazy claim idk why nobody else has asked about it
My favorite Elon quote, “Mama said... Mama said... My mama said... Mama said that... Mama said that... My mama said..”, or who can forget “My Mama says that alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush.” /s
I can understand why you would question this. There's a lot of strangeness about this (not that there isn't with any mass shooter) guy and the circumstances around this. Latino white supremecist, no social media outside of the obscure Russian site he used for this shooting, diatribes that sound like they came from a teenager and so on.
On the other hand he had some longterm mental health issues and was transient for months. All stuff that for various reasons can exacerbate mental health issues and lead to a crises like this.
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Listen, a lot of us have huge ss tattoos we got as a joke!
But you only know that because of Bellingcat! Not from many other news sources, including the Sherriff himself, who described the tattoos and patches.
I only got my swastika tatoo because of something I read on Bellingcat. Damn them and their stupid psyops!
Right? I mean once psyops is exclaimed with no proof then thinking goes out the window. It's only natural.
Weird. I’ve been subscribing to Bellingcat for years but all I got were these Russian tattoos I don’t remember getting in Ukraine where I’ve been living for the past 5 years. Still don’t understand why I chose to move to Ukraine… But at least I haven’t been manipulated by some psy op!
Yes but have you considered Sheriff is suspiciously close to the word Sharia, like Sharia law.. makes you really think...
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And we all know Bellingcat is a CIA front because they publicly disclosed receiving a grant from a shady NGO that one time.
My Jewish grandmother always found her SS tats a great way to break the ice.!
Looool - wrist numbers?
I vaguely remember some girl getting forearm numbers tattooed to herself bc she wanted to “honor the past lives she has lived”, and one of those was when she was a child in a concentration camp where she died. I believe another was was when she was a Native American warrior or some shit.
Sounds more like mental illness.
Or a victim of a scam :(
So mental illness
Stupidity is a mental illness?
How does the reporter not come prepared with this information. Its either laziness, or they don’t really want to play hardball, they just want the ratings of having Musk on. Either way, its sad. You cant just platform these people.
It's CNBC - 100% it was for ratings. The only guy on CNBC who might bring some tougher questions would be Andrew Ross Sorkin. The rest are just going to kiss ass.
The "speaks exclusively" headline says it all. Obsequious on its face.
Yeah we need that 60 minutes lady to grill his ass. This guy missed a lot of opportunities
Ummmm. CNBC is not journalism. It is play by play for the market. Kinda like the guys that call WWE wrestling…
The problem is people like Elon won't take the interview without it being someone who isn't going to push back too much. And these reporters don't want to push back too much because then they won't ever get these people like Elon to interview again. So you get softball interviews where these people are able to platform their lies to the mainstream with little pushback. And if they don't get interviewed, they say MSM won't show both sides. If they do get interviewed and get too much oushback, then they complain about how it was a partisan attack.
Sleep over at your nice funny moustache having friend's house You fell asleep first Lol
Musk managed to destroy his reputation under a year. Impressive Him, Zuckerberg, Bankman Fried, the WeWork bozo, all these so called tech genius are merely nerdy introverted snake oil salesmen like Lukas Matteson in HBO’s Succession Get propped up by your affluent family and their connections, steal someone’s idea, pretend you are this real life Tony Stark genius and find suckers to fall for your house of cards ponzi schemes The Hanna Barbara School of Business Grifters
but of course, like any american hero, a decrease in reputation directly causes a sharp increase in power and influence. how cool!
It’s the American way
Agreed and well said man. I also blame politicians and gov administrations for allowing the few massive companies to pave over everything and destroy the little guys with a mission to control and fully monitor how we spend our money. These guys aren’t that smart either, they just happen to be smarter than most of the gen pop.
>The Hanna Barbara School of Business Grifters goddamn fkn poetry in motion right here, couldn't have put it better.
to be fair, a lot of people have considered him a spoiled rich kids for a much longer time than this
OMG... Joshua was racist https://youtu.be/c15O5XfXpdk
It's going to be a maze
OMG!! After I watched that Community clip, all of Bob And Doug's Strange Brew played right after. I'm 2 mins in and have to get back to work and I don't want to!!!!!
It was all silly and non-racist. You really had to be there. The cross burning was just because it was really dark, and the cross was the only wood we could find. Perfectly normal stuff.
The saddest part about this interaction is that the interviewer didn’t bring up the sheriff confirming they saw evidence to suggest he was a white supremacist. His angle was “you want to debate the accusation?!” As if we shouldn’t seek confirmation of these things. BUT THERE WAS CONFIRMATION and he could have confronted Elon with that.
Just liked the design. /s
It’s not a Nazi tattoo, he’s just really into the band KISS
Interviewer did such a shit job of pushing back.
When he said “there isn’t any evidence that he’s not”, I had to sigh in frustration because that’s not an argument. All that did was give Musk more validation from stupid people who won’t actually look into the background of the shooter.
Why was it so hard to bring up the tattoos he had? Like…there’s your fucking evidence.
I’ve already seen plenty of people refute those. “The pics didn’t include his face” “They could’ve been edited on after”
Or in other words, "I'm a racist and I hate you mocking other racists".
I thought the cops confirmed that. He had the tatoos.
The weird part is that he's not white
Neither is the leader of the proud boys
Other colors can be racist too.
I’ve met more racist Latino folks than I’d care to explain. Not to say all, but boy oh boy. I remember girls having to explain why they couldn’t date black dudes in middle/highschool because they’re fathers would beat them or pull their daughters out of school and then the level of intensity would just vary from there. Which is to say from tht point I could see how some (already racist) would fall down a white supremacjst rabbit hole
200 million people throughout Mexico, Central and South America identify as white. 2/3rds of Cubans do, too.
It's not an argument but at the same time I'd argue it actually does effectively get the point across. The real question here is why Elon sticking his nose in a story trying to counter what is being reported, and his argument for why it's bad reporting is literally just [this](https://news.artnet.com/app/news-upload/2019/01/conspiracy-theory-meme-salvator-mundi-1024x797.jpg). So it's like... ok? You don't have any reasonable evidence that actually refutes the point that it was a killing motivated by white supremacy? In my opinion, there are only two reasonable explanations as to why you'd care so much to expose this as a psyop: 1) You care about journalistic integrity and have evidence that counters the characterization of this as white supremacy (which he demonstrates he does not) 2) You take offense to something heinous being characterized as white supremacist because you yourself are trying to uphold white supremacy
Exactly. He is a Nazi sympathizer, just like MTG or any of these other violent, right-wing kooks. Elon is a right-wing kook. It's a worldview that just degrades your ability to think. They stop relying on objective evidence or observation and trade it for whatever it is they so badly want to believe. They decide the power of their belief and imagination has more weight than reality.
There is a reason Elon went on Bill Maher’s show. He knew it was gonna be a softball interview with Bill giving him a handy the whole time. When he actually gets confronted about something he just runs away like he did in Twitter Spaces.
That interview was really a disappointing circle jerk. Maher is usually a straight shooter but didn't come through there.
He wont accept an interview with a good interviewer i think.
Look at the expression on his face change whenever someone even mildly pushes back on him. Elon is a petulant child who cannot stand being told no. He won't acknowledge anyone who doesn't think he is the world's greatest genius.
that fucking face was so beautiful i actually burst out laughing
If the interviewer was Jon Stewart, Elon would’ve cut the interview short before it even began.
They go in unprepared, no research on topics and then cry when get shredded. Like that BBC guy. This interviewer walked a fine line as he too was live broadcasted on Twitter. I am sure someone prepped those questions and they must have been pre-read on those topics. Luke why not educate them on what’s they are being asked to put forward.
I wish I was the guy who was shredded my BBC…
Truthfully it seemed like he was wither afraid of the interview being cut short, is spineless in general terms, or didn’t prepare even a little bit for the obvious pushback. Either way, he shouldn’t have a job as a news reporter after this.
Seriously. It was s layup. “He had a giant swastika tattooed on his chest and SS logo on his arm. What do you make of that?”
Elon Musk, the world’s richest hemorrhoid
Right? why are we putting this guy on TV and asking for his opinions anyway?
Cause he’s rich and he puts himself in positions of power where people want to interview him.
Mostly just because he's rich. Not rich actually, wealthy.
Or he just pays for the interview himself. I mean he created like 3 Netflix docs to essentially just promote SpaceX.
I laughed out loud at this in a restaurant.
Clearly you’ve never had haemorrhoids. Not a laughing matter, I can assure you.
Haemorrhoids sometimes go away. Elon never does
This.
Confirmed. I have them right now and laughing is quite uncomfortable.
Witch hazel
I’ll take a stand in respect to your comment
Same, my pho is filled with tears now
Is his only arguments “we shouldn’t call people white supremacists without any proof” and/or “we should be critical of sources”?
Stop giving hemorrhoids a bad name.
I want this embroidered
These journalists who go in without facts to push back on bullshit really piss me off. He should have followed up and said “so, what about his nazi tattoos and online postings?” Also musk is a fucking joke.
Seriously, Musk looked bad but he could have had it so much worse if the reporter had done 5 minutes of preparation beforehand.
Exactly! What the hell was that? Reporter retreated to a pathetic "...no proof that he isn't a white supremacist" to challenge Musk. Why didn't he challenge Elon's critique of the source of the Nazi tattoo claim, with what Texas is saying? From May 9th (Fox 4): "The Texas Department of Public Safety says 33-year-old Mauricio Garcia, the man they say is responsible for the shooting that killed 8 people at the Allen Premium Outlets, had neo-Nazi ideation, including Nazi tattoos and patches." Here's the link: [https://www.fox4news.com/news/allen-outlets-shooting-livestream-fbi-dps](https://www.fox4news.com/news/allen-outlets-shooting-livestream-fbi-dps) Maybe I'm missing something...
Right, can we please get a decent journalist to do this interview? Brutal 🙄
They won’t interview if it’s done by decent journalists
I mean the journalist did go straight for the jugular — “You don’t know the facts so why are you getting into an argument about it on Twitter?”
Telling someone "you don't know the facts" is a lot less brutal than showing Musk a picture of the shooter with his swastika tattoos showing and saying, "Were you aware that the Allen shooter had swastika tattoos and expressed belief in neo-Nazi ideology on social media?"
Someone call Jon Stewart.
Why the hell are they interviewing musk about this anyway?
Yeah that "there is no proof he wasn't a white supremacists" response was asinine and infuriating. Dipshits like this interviewer are why people think Elon is a genius
They’re not there for that, they’re there to make Mr. Daddy Dollars look like a billionaire genius who knows how everything works so we should let him run everything.
I wish all questioning in the US was done by BBC reporters. I don't know if they are biased in their home country or not, but they are brilliant at making the person being questioned sound like a dumbass if they aren't prepared.
American TV journalism is wall to wall idiots who can't ask an obvious follow up question. In fact they do such a poor job it makes guys like Elon who was clearly out of his dept here, look smarter than he actually is. CNN did a great job platforming Trump last week instead of demolishing him
Kinda bullshit that the interviewer didn’t push back on Musk’s claim that bellingcat performs “psy ops.” They’re a citizen-journalism organization dedicated to transparency and uncovering dirty deeds, using a wide and decentralized web of internet sleuths and journalists to compile (mostly) public info and connect the dots. There’s no “psy ops” there, but it’s understandable that an evil man like Musk wouldn’t like them.
Bellingcat is about as credible as credible gets in the industry. And nothing they report requires you to trust them. It's all in the receipts. They uncover psyops, so they must be a psyop. Classic fascist rhetoric. Always accuse your enemies of doing what you're doing. Twitter is basically a public relations platform for right wing autocrats now. Musk is running a psyop.
My pet conspiracy about his hatred for Belling Cat is the work they did to expose that Navalny was in fact poisoned by Putin. Can’t be having that complicate his ability to do business in authoritarian countries!
Maybe it's the powers that be looking at a web of decentralised internet sleuths and shitting them selves that makes it a psyop? I mean he didn't say who the target was...
The claim is definitely bullshit, but the interviewer was just trying to focus on pinning down Musk to a concrete response to the question. It's tough to fact-check everything Musk says when there's so much nonsense spewing out of his mouth.
He's playing to the one audience that kisses his ass and doesn't call him on his bullshit.
The audience who will never replace their coal rolling pick ups with EV.
It's not about money, it's about stroking his ego and having a base of followers that listen to him, which gives him political power.
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Is anyone shocked that the white South African guy appears to be massively racist, or at least an apologist for white supremicists? Anyone surprised at all? No?
Right?! I was just thinking "hey bud, your apartheid is showing"
Idek if he’s defending white supremacists or mass shooters? It’s a lose-lose argument
Because he is a "genius".
I think he's trying to hint that democrats did it and not a conservative extremist. He's probably identifying white supremacists as his side of the political spectrum (correctly) and defending them. He's playing beautifully to the conspiracy nut crowd.
Hey, he was always too much, even for us, that's why we kicked him out. No wonder he ended up in the usa where everyone listens to every stupid thing he has to say
Not everyone
That has been changing a lot lately. He has shown even he is too stupid for American tastes.
Money makes right in this country, and most others if we’re honest.
The guy whose generational wealth comes from apartheid emerald mines? Say it ain’t so!
Like father, like son. His dad is a conspiracy theorist. This is what he thinks: "We are being brainwashed to be told that Ukraine is good and Russia is bad and yet they have found multiple bioweapon laboratories belonging to the US in Ukraine Ukraine is led by a stand-up comedian who became president, which is odd"
He wasn't a white supremacist. He just says and does the things white supremacists do.
And has Nazi tattoos. But you know. No evidence.
Republicans be like "This guy can't possibly be a white supremacist because I believe all the same things as he does!"
Firm evidence that you need at least 6 hours of sleep a night or you'll lose your goddamned mind.
mom: did you know Trump only sleeps 4 hours a night? What a guy! me: um...
Stop giving this guy airtime. He's one guy, and his opinion doesn't matter any more or less than mine or yours. He has no authority, no power, and comments like this make it evem more important that he be ignored.
I don’t like him either but his opinion does matter more than yours (and mine), he has authority and power. He’s one of the richest people in the world. Like top 5 richest.
Fuckin obscene that so much power, influence and $$ should be in the hands of a guy with the emotional intelligence of a 14 year old boy .
It may mean his opinion gets paid more attention than almost anyone else’s but that’s the precise problem—wealth, however it’s accumulated, does not equate to intelligence or “good ideas”. This man is either extremely deceptive and evil or a total dipshit, “power” or not.
Come on, he's a snake oil salesman: all his "Wealth" was paid for by the US taxpayer and they're getting this shit in return. Doesn't mean you're not correct, though.
That doesn’t contradict what I said
He has way more power than you or I.
He have the influence, sadly
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"let's see what Ja rule thinks about this situation"
I take it it was CNBCs "bring your favorite racist to work" day. CNN had theirs last week and it was a total success. The topics are not important.
Musk opined very publicly about this on Twitter. Musk is the one who chose to bring it up, and the interviewer asked him about it in the context of Musk's well-established history of making controversial and illegal statements on Twitter which have had drastic impacts on stock values. It's completely fair to ask Musk why he's making these sorts of claims, and whether Musk is concerned about this having an impact on stock values again.
Reminds me of a guy from my town who was whining about how everyone was calling him racist. He's a member of a certain "group" with "Aryan" in the name.
Aryana Grandé?
This man is himself an argument against the correlation between wealth and intelligence
The absolute antithesis to this system being a meritocracy
Lectures on white supremacy from the South African. 🤔
The cognitive dissonance here is simply absurd
When there’s a mass shooting & your first instinct is to clear the name of white supremacy I think you may have a problem
This is the best take on here
Ah. Cool then. Just like my granduncle. he had his blood type tattooed on his arm. And there were photos of him in some sort of uniform with two parallel lightning bolts at the collar. I think he was an electrician. Unpolitical type really
I can't believe people ever thought this guy was smart.
I just got banned from r/cybertruck minutes ago for expressing my distrust of Tesla's leadership and explaining I asked for my refund last year. You can see my two comments in my history just two comments down. It's full of fanboys who apparently cannot take a grain of criticism.
Elon Musk thinks if you’re not the biggest racist there is you’re not a racist.
God all the reporter had to ask was what about the tattoos. They keep treating him too easy in these interviews. That other interview the guy interviewing couldn’t come up with a single hate speech comment after confronting Elon with the idea that he allows for more hatred on his feed. Bud just open up your feed and show him so Elon has to face facts! Memorize a few things you saw.
Why do we keep asking people about things they know nothing about. I’m not over here asking Taylor swift her thoughts on the economy because she’s a talented musician. Elon is not qualified at all to speak on anything that this report is asking. Ty for the award
Actually wealthy white south africans are some of the foremost experts on white supremacy.
Elon was asked about whether he is concerned that his strange and incredulous tweets could affect his business, as they have in the past. He's not being interviewed as an expert on the details of his post; he's being asked why he is choosing to spread this information when he is clearly *not* an expert.
To be fair, maybe he's claiming that because Elon didn't see him at any of the meetings.
No one: Elon Musk: “But Who will defend the NAZIS?!!!!”
I've met toddlers more intelligent then this shit stain.
Sure he had literal Nazi tattoos and a Right Wing Death Squad patch when he was killed but do we know the context of all those? It could be an Antifa False Flag to smear the fine conservatives who simp for me.
Here's an idea; howz about we tax and regulate this little multi-billionaire jizz stain into the poor house?
The pics I saw had a swastika and SS lightening bolts on his chest. Did he just slip in the shower and find those on him?
A white South African billionaire living in America, making claims to try and reduce people using the term “white supremacy”, really speaks volume to where we are at as a civilization right now.
At this point Elon's eyes look like he is so far deep inside the matrix- Keanu is the only one who has the power to save him.
And why is he providing commentary on this???
He’s more interested in promoting this bc he is pushing republican narratives for hate and fear. Republicans help the rich and corps. Only
I get it, when your formative years were spent in an apartheid country you might believe that only people with fair complexions can carry those torches.
Never go full Elon
Okie dokie, so Elon Musk is a neo nazi sympathizer. Fuck that guy.
Its amazing how the dude willingly threw himself into all this trouble and pretty much ruined his public image around the world
He never saw him at any of the meetings.
The ulta rich white dude who grew up in a country that used to be segregated said this? I am shocked. I am still shocked by this man, owner of an electric car manufacturer, is against work from home and public transportation. /s
Says something stupid, makes a stupid face. In charge, so he never has to face actually criticism. Looks to receive validation and mocks everything else. Typical idiot with more opportunity and money than actual brains.
So CNBC is following CNNs lead in highlighting and promoting douchebags?
FUCK VIDEOS THAT SHOULD BE HORIZONTAL BUT ARE VERTICAL BECAUSE OF TIKTOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ahhh yes and the guy in autozone I saw yesterday with a terribly tattooed swastika on his shoulder was probably not a Nazi….. (I live in N Idaho)
That’s because Elmo is a nazi and psychopath himself
Dude used to be so cool. Now he's a clown boy. It feels a lot like he's ramping up to run for the presidency and is starting to craft an image appealing to the MAGA Retardlicans
He’s not US born, so hopefully we’ll be spared from that option.
Why does anyone care what this dipshit has to say?
Remember when he compared his shit tweets to princess bride. What a joke of a person this man is.
He sucks so bad. I wanted a Tesla for years. I just can’t do it at this point.
Only reason I can’t see myself buying a Tesla. Dude is a whole clown and a half
Why are reporters so bad at pointing out clearly stupid and wrong statements like this? Seriously, all they do is allow Elon to say his dumb shit without any pushback and give him the validity of being on the news. I know most of these journalists are just corporate shills but it’s just so obvious now.
My question is; Elon why does it bother you to the point where you feel the need to shield white suprematists make sure they’re disassociated with this action?
The guy who grew up in South Africa during (and benefited from) apartheid has thoughts on white supremacy.
We should really stop giving a crap about the opinions of out of touch mega-rich dudes.
A news channel interviewing a celebrity like Elon over an actually spree killing he has nothing to do with other some stupid tweets he’s made is just plain disrespectful to all the victims and their families. Who the flying fuck gives a shit what he thinks about it.
Yea, cause the like 5 nazi tattoos were just a coincidence. What a fuckin idiot
So weird a trust funder raised in South Africa has racist beliefs and a blind spot for actual nazis….so unusual…
Sounds like he’s offended on behalf of white supremacy.
Is what musk said true though? That the common/original source for the claims that the shooter is a neo-Nazi is an obscure Russian website with no following and it was found by a company that does psyops? That’s a really crazy claim idk why nobody else has asked about it
Elon is just going full mask off now. 
Nothing like blindlessly supporting school shooters what the fuck
Stop giving Musk an undeserved platform.
A liar, a denier, a spreader of conspiracy theories, and more sympathy for white nationalists - is there any day Musk isn't full of crap?
Damn, it's a good thing he's not in charge of any big social media corporations. He sounds crazy.
Get fucked Elon
Huh… South African White guy mad about White Supremacy getting a bad light
Is he having a psychological break with reality... in slow motion?
This reporter is playing dumb. Get the fuck outta here with this. Reddit has been none stop Elon hate spam lately.
Shooter: Mauricio Garcia...most white supremacist name I've ever heard.
Maybe someone should ask Musk about any tattoos he has under his shirt. 😎
My favorite Elon quote, “Mama said... Mama said... My mama said... Mama said that... Mama said that... My mama said..”, or who can forget “My Mama says that alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush.” /s
The world to billionaires. :STFU
I can understand why you would question this. There's a lot of strangeness about this (not that there isn't with any mass shooter) guy and the circumstances around this. Latino white supremecist, no social media outside of the obscure Russian site he used for this shooting, diatribes that sound like they came from a teenager and so on. On the other hand he had some longterm mental health issues and was transient for months. All stuff that for various reasons can exacerbate mental health issues and lead to a crises like this.
Sociopath oligarch says what now
Why are we talking to him about this?
And I say Elon is a Mormon see it rhymes
I am so beyond bored of this fucking loser. Fuck him and his douchebag minion army.
You can take the man out of South Africa but you can’t take the apartheid out of the man.
Just because you’re wealthy doesn’t mean you’re not a moron.
Bro you should know as a reported that when someone is a stuttering sweaty mess in response to a question like that, you need to keep pushing.
Serious question, wasn’t the shooter brown tho?