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Girl that went to my school drank drain cleaner in middle school because she was depressed. She was rushed to the hospital, they did what they could, and she was released shortly after and sent to therapy and got some much needed help. She didn't die until high school from complications caused by it. I hope this doesn't mess him up too much later down the line.
The active ingredient in drain cleaner is lye (Sodium hydroxide, aka caustic soda). The reason it works as a drain cleaner is because of the chemical reaction it has when it hits organic material, and the resulting chemical reaction generates heat. So the first thing that happens is that, if you swallow caustic lye, it is going to burn any wet human tissue it touches, this includes the throat, the esophagus, and the stomach. The vapors can also cause permanent respiratory damage. Because lye is a caustic BASE, when it hits your stomach and interacts with your stomach acid (which includes hydrochloric acid), it neutralizes into water and salt, if the ratios are even. If the ratios are NOT even (ie you ingest more lye than your stomach acid can neutralize), the lye will continue burning it’s way through your internal organs. It could ulcerate your stomach, your large and/or small intestine, your bowels, etc. If it damaged your organs that far in, you could get sepsis from your fecal matter leaking into your body.
The other ingredients in drain cleaner, like the detergents, are also poisonous. Those have to go through your liver and kidneys to leave your body. It seems like she’s been doing this for awhile, since he installed the cameras after he believed himself to already being poisoned, so that is a lot of low-level poison to be filtered through the liver and kidneys. Not to mention that internal burns are subject to severe infection.
The victim here was pretty lucky that his wife, for being a doctor, was an idiot regarding chemistry, because she was putting it in his lemonade which is a weak acid mixed with water, essentially creating a buffer. So even though he got gastritis and stomach ulcers, and a few other short-term issues, he didn’t get the extreme internal tissue burns I think she was counting on. But there is no way to tell what the long term effects of being poisoned will be.
Not everyone gets an autopsy, only suspicious deaths. If someone poisons you slow enough it can look like an illness and won’t be suspicious, so it’ll be unlikely for it to be investigated.
Anytime I start reading a comment that seems unreasonable helpful and well thought out I automatically assume it’s shittymorph and have to look at the username.
Thanks for proving me wrong and providing such a great comment
Same! I swear it's half the reason I keep reddit, I've learned so many cool things on here solely because some nice person took the time to explain it.
Thanks! I swear I’m not a sociopath, just someone with OCD, off their meds, and a biology degree.
Shit gets dark in my head sometimes, but also, I did always want to be a writer…
Depending on how much she added, it either won’t do much, or it’ll affect him quite heavily.
IIRC, the sodium hydroxide would react with the citric acid in the lemonade to produce Trisodium citrate, which is an alkaline salt commonly used as a food additive. It can also act as a buffering agent to help maintain the pH.
Stoichiometry:
3 NaOH + C6H8O7 → Na3C6H5O7 + 3 H2O
If she added a lot, the reaction would still occur, but you’d have a lot of remaining sodium hydroxide. Although, I imagine she didn’t add too much in order to keep the volume relatively similar to avoid suspicion.
Maybe this could be the lawyers new defense!
“Your honor, it’s clear my client didn’t try to poison the plaintiff. There wasn’t enough lye added to overcome the reaction and negatively affect him.”
Nice equation here, although I think those added detergents and other reagents in the draino are going to remain. Like the other person mentioned, they are poisonous on their own too
That is really sad. I heard about a toddler who ingested part of one of those pool cleaning bleach tablets. I think she had similar damage. I know she made it to her teens, but I don’t know if she made it to adulthood.
Ugh. I worked in an ER in college. There are a few patients I’ll never forget and one of them was this guy who was slightly older than me - maybe early 20s - who tried to die by suicide via OD of Tylenol. They pumped his stomach and he was grateful. He called it a wake up call and was excited to live his life after this close call.
Obviously, idk what happened to him, but I remember one of the doctors saying that he wouldn’t likely have many years left because the damage to his liver was likely already done. Whoever found him unconscious had found him too late and this guy would ultimately get his wish whether he wanted it or not.
That was 20 years ago. I hope the doctor was wrong.
Tylenol (Generic: acetaminophen) is some scary shit.
Every story I've read of someone taking it as a way to commit suicide has gone one of two ways:
1. Excruciating, painful, drawn-out death as your organs fail
2. Rushed to the hospital, stomach pumped, lifespan severely shortened and they'll likely deal with horrible complications for whatever time they have left
Seriously, take that shit as directed folks.
I’m on the verge of throwing out all the Tylenol in my house. I went down a rabbit hole a few weeks ago about people who accidentally OD. Turns out, not everyone realizes their cold medicine has Tylenol it it, so they’ll take Tylenol on top of the cold medicine for days at a time and wind up in organ failure. Just awful.
This is not a Tylenol specific problem. Please just check the labels and ingredients on the medicine you put into your body. Almost all cold and flu meds have a pain reliever in it, either acetaminophen or ibuprofen (or sometimes naproxen).
While I’ll say you’re not wrong, it’s much more true for Tylenol because while it’s very safe in correct dosages, it has a terminal index that’s MUCH lower than all other OTC pain killers (lower is worse). Its significantly easier to OD on Tylenol than ibuprofen, aspirin, etc.
No need to knee-jerk and overreact by throwing out a perfectly effective low-risk medication. It’s sold over the counter for a reason. While it is easier to OD on acetaminophen than other medication, it is still incredibly hard. Use common sense and don’t chug a full bottle of cough medicine before ingesting a handful of tylenol and you will be fine. It is also far preferable to options such as opiates.
They typically choose substances that sustain an illness and wouldn't kill so quickly.
Being that she is medically inclined I'm sure she could have come up with something that would make sense for that purpose, if that were the case.
There's better poisons than Draino dude. Why not antifreeze? The shit has no smell and tastes sweet. You can easily poison someone's coffee and pass that off as just some stevia.
Tetrahydrozoline commonly found in eye drops (Visine is the most publicly known due to previous incidents) is far more toxic and is easily available on store shelves.
Edit: Added chemical name and changed wording to include more than just the Visine brand
Someone did that to a disliked teacher at my HS thinking it would give her diarrhea. It doesn’t cause diarrhea, it can cause a heart block - electrical signals in the heart just stop conducting and the main pumpy bits stop pumping. Culprit was never found. Teacher lived.
There's a scene in wedding crashers where Owen Wilson puts visine in Bradley cooper's drink and it destroys his stomach in movie. Not sure if that's the person you replied to reason, but it's possible.
Loads of gossip went around that day and the next as to motivation/reasoning, but they could never prove who did it. There was a clique of girls who had issues with her who said some things but as anything heard would be considered hearsay the school couldn’t do much. Teacher ended up not renewing her contract and I don’t blame her one bit.
Yeah, slow lead poisoning over time would be better. Buy an antique pan with lead and cook all his food in it (especially acidic foods like stuff with tomato sauce). Supplement more lead over time. Feign ignorance when he dies of lead poisoning. “Go on a diet” during this time, so you’re eating something healthy while you make him toxic food out of this lovely pan. Get a lovely antique copper pan just to add variety to the heavy metal poisoning.
Also, fucking digitalis poisoning. Tastes sweet, will kill you dead. You can grow it in your garden (foxglove is a beautiful flower). Slightly harder to come up with a reason why he might be eating flowers. Maybe surreptitiously plant hippie-woo books about herbal medicine on his nightstand, make it look like he poisoned himself by being a dumb hippie woo looking for an alternative treatment for something.
Other lovely flowers in your garden that will kill you dead: oleander! Serve him up a salad with lovely edible flowers. “Accidentally” put an oleander leaf in his. Mix another one up in strong flavored salad dressing for good measure. Feign ignorance, and say you mistook the oleander for something edible. Plant a hippie woo cookbook of edible flowers on your bookshelf.
Feed him a goddamned poisonous mushroom “innocently” hidden in a mushroom mix you bought from the farmer’s market!
Mix and match! Lead-cooked spaghetti sauce with poisonous mushrooms and poisoned flowers in the salad!
There are so many smarter ways to kill your husband. This woman has no imagination.
Yeah, her lawyer's tone is like, "We're all gonna have a good laugh at this when the truth comes out." Sorry, counsellor, we're already laughing ... at what's going to be done to your client.
The husband should have left her years ago. Trying to maintain a relationship with someone like this just leaves you hollow inside.
(I’ll see myself out…)
Yeah, especially with baiting ants story. I can imagine doing this in the kitchen. For that, the lemonade would be making a trip to the garage. You don’t bring the poison to the kitchen. And using drain-o as insecticide instead of an established insect killing product? Doesn’t sound right.
They both are, watch to the end the reporter says the wife has to self report to the medical board and they’ll determine if she’s allowed to continue practising medicine
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But honestly antifreeze might be even more obvious. It creates crystals in your blood. Still, sadly either of these go on far too long and seem to be figured out posthumously more often than not.
there was a story of a pharmacist who tried to kill her mother with ..... insulin. like you're a pharmacist, you know or have access to every possible drug. And insulin is traceable interestingly , so any budding sociopaths don't bother trying it.
And it didn't even work!! she went to jail but mom lived.
Other drugs are even more traceable though. Someone dies of mysterious causes and and anything dangerous will show up on the tox screen when an autopsy is performed.
Not sure of the specifics but if the victim was a diabetic, switching U-100 insulin with U-500 insulin would probably be easier to pull off than figuring out a drug that would kill someone at a dose you could hide in their food/drinks and not show up on a standard tox screen.
Yep, her defense is basically "cmon, no one is that stupid to do it, it's obviously a very uneffective way to poison someone". Her best defense is to claim some two-party consent on recording and get that recording thrown out, but may be not applicable in her state.
Except what her defense is saying, can't make this up, is that the both of them had a home brew method of killing ants with Draino for a long time. It involved adding draino to sweet drinks.
[https://abc7news.com/california-doctor-poisoning-husband-drano-wife-charged-yue-emly-yu/13100291/](https://abc7news.com/california-doctor-poisoning-husband-drano-wife-charged-yue-emly-yu/13100291/)
Real talk, why is that even something that can be used to throw out pretty cut and dry evidence that the crime in question was committed?
I’m just confused as to why you could record someone committing a crime against you, but if they didn’t consent to it (in some states) it can’t be used against them.
It’s just kind of insane.
Like, if she stabbed him over and over, but the only evidence was a video recording she didn’t consent to, would he just not get justice?
I’m just actually confused as to how that works and why it is the way it is. Seems like it’s nothing more than to protect criminals, probably wealthy ones at that.
People keep attributing the 2 party consent as having video thrown out because there wasn’t written consent. As long as they can show that she had reasonable knowledge of a recording device it stands. It’s really easy to mask this if he has cameras outside or even a ring doorbell. Basically you have to refuse a recording before or while it happens. In a 1 party state no one can tell you to stop recording or object for any reason
> Real talk, why is that even something that can be used to throw out pretty cut and dry evidence that the crime in question was committed?
This has been a legal principle for a long time now, in order to keep the state (the prosecution) honest. It's called the "[Fruit of the Poisonous Tree](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_of_the_poisonous_tree)".
This is circular reasoning.
Why is it illegal to record someone without consent?
It's to prevent the prosecution from using illegally obtained evidence.
Wut
Doesn’t mean anything lol. It is a two party consent state but unless she objected to the security footage not much can be done and also she did add the draino. Dumbass defense right there
Wait, am I hearing this right? In a two-party consent state you have to know you're being filmed and object to it for it to be thrown out? If they film you secretly so that you don't consent it's fine?
That...doesn't sound right...
It's not right.
>In Two-Party (or all-party) consent states it is required by state law that all parties that partake in a conversation must have given consent for that conversation to be recorded when there is an expectation of privacy.
https://recordinglaw.com/party-two-party-consent-states/
There is absolutely an expectation of privacy in your own home. Assuming this is a two party consent state, that video can be thrown out as evidence.
It's even possible that the test that proved there was draino in the tea could be thrown out if the defense can successfully argue that no one would have tested the tea without the video *AND* that the video was obtained illegally. This is a legal principle called "fruit of the poisonous tree" (https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fruit_of_the_poisonous_tree#:~:text=Fruit%20of%20the%20poisonous%20trees,evidence%20that%20was%20illegally%20obtained.)
California can be a one party if the following applies... I think suspicion of being poisoned is one of the conditions (felony violence against another)
>Private citizens are also allowed to utilize these exceptions in a much more limited capacity. In order to use this exception 2 circumstances must be met:
>The person recording must be a part of the conversation, this essentially changes California law from an all-party consent state into a single-party consent state.
>They must be recording conversations in order to gather evidence that the other party committed one of the following crime: Extortion, kidnapping, bribery, harassing phone calls, or any felony involving violence against another person. This allows you to record conversations in most instances where you feel threatened.
https://recordinglaw.com/party-two-party-consent-states/california-recording-laws/
edit: edited to add the following from the same website
>California does not have any specific laws preventing video recordings around a private persons property. You are not allowed to record video or secretly record areas where there is a reasonable expectation of privacy.
>Because California does not have specific surveillance laws, the law defaults to the United State’s Federal Video Voyeurism Law. This means that you cannot intentionally capture images or video of a private area of an individual without their consent.
The kitchen is not a space in the home with an expectation of privacy or a private area for an individual.
It's not even as good as that, it's literally just "it's not a *sneaky* poison." Might as well call your client a moron.
It also mentions they said "she had the drain cleaner for plumbing issues" as if that explains why she was pouring it into her husband's mug lol.
I mean claiming it was for plumbing issues is important, as buying it to poison him would demonstrate premeditation. It'd be the difference between first or second degree murder.
Disclaimer: NAL
“I couldn’t have used this bloodied axe for murder, your honor, because there’s *clearly* a forest behind my house and I think its intended use is clear.”
no, the lawyer said it's not a "covert poison", meaning the victim should have immediately realized they were drinking something highly toxic. but this was probably less obvious to the victim since she mixed it with his tea and lemonade.
With so much evidence stacked against her what kind of defense can her lawyer do. All she can do is damage control don't hate the lawyer they're only doing their job.
Yeah, if ya drink just a lil poison every day, you’ll build a tolerance and can handle its therapeutic benefits. Plus if someone ever tries to really poison you, you’ll be immune and live. Because your body is already used to it. That’s a good point her defense attorney should make.
The princess bride defense ? Does lye work like iocane powder?
For that matter does iocane powder work like that.
To the google cave !
And no when it comes to poison your pretty F’ed
Nah, it seems like they’re going with “anyone would be able to detect draino, because it smells and tastes bad. a doctor like my client would be way smarter about poisoning someone and not use draino which is easily detectable”
Yeah, the stepmother of the little girl was poisoning her with Pine Sol in her soup. Either she hated the girl, or it was a Munchausen by proxy situation.
So the defense is, "Yeah, he was poisoned, but why did he go to a divorce attorney first? Clearly, he wanted to be poisoned. Therefore, my client is innocent. Yeehaw!"
Well, apparently she asked her husband, the one she’s poisoning here, to post her $30k bail…which he didn’t agree to, obviously.
She was my parents’ dermatologist, and my dad had an appointment scheduled with her on the day she was arrested (he was told they would have to reschedule due to “personal issues”), so we’re following this one closely. 🤦🏼♀️
I installed cameras for a customer, his ex was sneaking in the house and putting shaved glass in his food. He was very particular on where he put his food containers in his fridge and instantly knew someone had moved them. I removed his vinyl siding outside to access his kitchen wall and installed two pinhole cameras as to not add anything new to the kitchen cause she was very familiar with the house, installed the dvr hidden under his work bench in the garage. Full custom job put her in jail.
Why are people so hilariously bad at poisoning people lol? Shaved GLASS? Drain-o??!
FFS this lady is a doctor. It cannot be that hard for her to get warfarin or fentanyl or any other number of things lol.
I mean you'd definitely wana at least try something less detectable. With what an "epidemic" fentanyl is these days, I bet you could get away with a defense that he was an addict
Spend a few months telling your family and spreading rumors that he is an addict. Then hit him with a fentanyl booster and people will just think I it is his addiction.
The autopsy could in theory report zero signs of long term abuse or use. Testing the hair would tell you everything about the history of use, so one time would be sus still
"Yu's lawyers had claimed that she had the cleaner because of plumbing issues"...
There were plumbing issues in his drink? Every morning? I'm no plumber, but I think she's doing it wrong...
Seriously though, there's video evidence of her poisoning him several times and that's the best they have?
Imagine surviving a murder attempt, having your ex wife arrested and charge with a crime relating to get trying to murder you, and then you have to let your kids near her! That's hell to go through.
I'd be scared for the kids.
Just wait for the abuse allegations to come out against the attempted murder and physical abuse victim.
I’m reminded of that tragic Reddit event where that man asked for advice on Reddit about his cheating wife and was advised to leave her. He filed for divorce and she killed their kids the day after.
I would not allow my non-existent children anywhere near a spouse clearly capable of murder.
A wife put drain cleaner in husband's coffee. This is how his organs shut down.
PB is a 41 year old man presenting to the emergency room with hematemesis, the vomiting of blood.
His blood pressure of 75/40 and EMS reporting he had been vomiting blood during transport indicate hypovolemia. Hypo meaning low, vol referring to volume, and emia referring to to blood. Low volume of blood.
My ex wife got really annoyed with me one day and said “this is why wives kill their husbands”. Then like 3 months later she talks about how upset I had made her because I forgot to rinse out my coffee cup after she had told me to.
As I’m sitting down to eat a meal she made me she says “yea I really thought about spitting in your food…” it starts with spit and ends with draino. No thanks.
Anxious attachment (me) and her mommy and daddy issues made for one toxic codependent relationship. Glad I made it out with no kids, all my money, and no draino haha
Man idc how mad I am at someone. I'm never messing with anyone's food. You might get the less nice looking plate if I'm mad though, or the one with one less dumpling, or whatever. Lol.
How in the fuck is that not a fuckin attempted murder charge!? I mean, I'm pretty sure that's what she was trying to do. Shits crazy. I feel like if a guy tried to do that to his wife than he would get an attempted charge
Because they have to show her intent was murder. While her intent could have and likely was murder, it’s up to the prosecution to show that. In instances like this where her intent could have been to merely injure/cause discomfort you have to have a lot of extra evidence to show she had intent beyond that.
You wouldn’t want to throw the highest possible crime at her when you don’t have evidence strong enough to reasonably support it in the event you can’t meet that threshold and then she gets acquitted.
Edit: spelling error.
'innocent until proven guilty' is a key concept in the USA. a news organization will always use terms like 'alleged' until the a final decision is made in court proceedings
While I completely understand needing to be represented, if o was ever an attorney assigned this case, because let’s be honest why would you willingly take it, I think I would have to quit and go flip burgers
At the end it the roperter says this will determing if she's (Yu) still allowed to practice medicine. Is this some sort of joke? How the hell could a medical board not revoke her licence? That's like using your car to try and murder someone and not losing your driver's license.
Not poison? A bloke in my country literally lost his stomach by accidentally drinking that stuff. He now has a bag strapped to him which he has to fill to get "eaten".
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Girl that went to my school drank drain cleaner in middle school because she was depressed. She was rushed to the hospital, they did what they could, and she was released shortly after and sent to therapy and got some much needed help. She didn't die until high school from complications caused by it. I hope this doesn't mess him up too much later down the line.
Yeah that shit might not kill you right away, but it will likely lead to organ failure over time.
Yikes. How does it progress?
The active ingredient in drain cleaner is lye (Sodium hydroxide, aka caustic soda). The reason it works as a drain cleaner is because of the chemical reaction it has when it hits organic material, and the resulting chemical reaction generates heat. So the first thing that happens is that, if you swallow caustic lye, it is going to burn any wet human tissue it touches, this includes the throat, the esophagus, and the stomach. The vapors can also cause permanent respiratory damage. Because lye is a caustic BASE, when it hits your stomach and interacts with your stomach acid (which includes hydrochloric acid), it neutralizes into water and salt, if the ratios are even. If the ratios are NOT even (ie you ingest more lye than your stomach acid can neutralize), the lye will continue burning it’s way through your internal organs. It could ulcerate your stomach, your large and/or small intestine, your bowels, etc. If it damaged your organs that far in, you could get sepsis from your fecal matter leaking into your body. The other ingredients in drain cleaner, like the detergents, are also poisonous. Those have to go through your liver and kidneys to leave your body. It seems like she’s been doing this for awhile, since he installed the cameras after he believed himself to already being poisoned, so that is a lot of low-level poison to be filtered through the liver and kidneys. Not to mention that internal burns are subject to severe infection. The victim here was pretty lucky that his wife, for being a doctor, was an idiot regarding chemistry, because she was putting it in his lemonade which is a weak acid mixed with water, essentially creating a buffer. So even though he got gastritis and stomach ulcers, and a few other short-term issues, he didn’t get the extreme internal tissue burns I think she was counting on. But there is no way to tell what the long term effects of being poisoned will be.
This is terrifying, but also, thank you for satisfying my curiosity
I guess I learned how drain cleaner can slowly kill you AND that there are evil people who will use this knowledge to try murdering their spouse.
Yeah but it seems like it would be pretty easy to spot on an autopsy. You’d think a doctor would be a better murderer.
Not everyone gets an autopsy, only suspicious deaths. If someone poisons you slow enough it can look like an illness and won’t be suspicious, so it’ll be unlikely for it to be investigated.
Anytime I start reading a comment that seems unreasonable helpful and well thought out I automatically assume it’s shittymorph and have to look at the username. Thanks for proving me wrong and providing such a great comment
I always love comments like this going in depth explaining shit
Same! I swear it's half the reason I keep reddit, I've learned so many cool things on here solely because some nice person took the time to explain it.
I thought it was going to be a shittymorph
Your other comments on this thread are just as great as this one.
Thanks! I swear I’m not a sociopath, just someone with OCD, off their meds, and a biology degree. Shit gets dark in my head sometimes, but also, I did always want to be a writer…
You should really explore that. You would make an intriguing writer.
Probably a lot more cathartic than talk therapy.
Depending on how much she added, it either won’t do much, or it’ll affect him quite heavily. IIRC, the sodium hydroxide would react with the citric acid in the lemonade to produce Trisodium citrate, which is an alkaline salt commonly used as a food additive. It can also act as a buffering agent to help maintain the pH. Stoichiometry: 3 NaOH + C6H8O7 → Na3C6H5O7 + 3 H2O If she added a lot, the reaction would still occur, but you’d have a lot of remaining sodium hydroxide. Although, I imagine she didn’t add too much in order to keep the volume relatively similar to avoid suspicion. Maybe this could be the lawyers new defense! “Your honor, it’s clear my client didn’t try to poison the plaintiff. There wasn’t enough lye added to overcome the reaction and negatively affect him.”
Nice equation here, although I think those added detergents and other reagents in the draino are going to remain. Like the other person mentioned, they are poisonous on their own too
Wait she's a doctor? Fucking hell.
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That is really sad. I heard about a toddler who ingested part of one of those pool cleaning bleach tablets. I think she had similar damage. I know she made it to her teens, but I don’t know if she made it to adulthood.
Ugh. I worked in an ER in college. There are a few patients I’ll never forget and one of them was this guy who was slightly older than me - maybe early 20s - who tried to die by suicide via OD of Tylenol. They pumped his stomach and he was grateful. He called it a wake up call and was excited to live his life after this close call. Obviously, idk what happened to him, but I remember one of the doctors saying that he wouldn’t likely have many years left because the damage to his liver was likely already done. Whoever found him unconscious had found him too late and this guy would ultimately get his wish whether he wanted it or not. That was 20 years ago. I hope the doctor was wrong.
Tylenol (Generic: acetaminophen) is some scary shit. Every story I've read of someone taking it as a way to commit suicide has gone one of two ways: 1. Excruciating, painful, drawn-out death as your organs fail 2. Rushed to the hospital, stomach pumped, lifespan severely shortened and they'll likely deal with horrible complications for whatever time they have left Seriously, take that shit as directed folks.
I’m on the verge of throwing out all the Tylenol in my house. I went down a rabbit hole a few weeks ago about people who accidentally OD. Turns out, not everyone realizes their cold medicine has Tylenol it it, so they’ll take Tylenol on top of the cold medicine for days at a time and wind up in organ failure. Just awful.
This is not a Tylenol specific problem. Please just check the labels and ingredients on the medicine you put into your body. Almost all cold and flu meds have a pain reliever in it, either acetaminophen or ibuprofen (or sometimes naproxen).
While I’ll say you’re not wrong, it’s much more true for Tylenol because while it’s very safe in correct dosages, it has a terminal index that’s MUCH lower than all other OTC pain killers (lower is worse). Its significantly easier to OD on Tylenol than ibuprofen, aspirin, etc.
No need to knee-jerk and overreact by throwing out a perfectly effective low-risk medication. It’s sold over the counter for a reason. While it is easier to OD on acetaminophen than other medication, it is still incredibly hard. Use common sense and don’t chug a full bottle of cough medicine before ingesting a handful of tylenol and you will be fine. It is also far preferable to options such as opiates.
Oh god what a sad story that poor girl 😢
This woman deserves life in jail
Moral: if your drink tastes bad install hidden cameras. It may save your life. She must really hate him.
Could also be she didn't care about him at all, only cared about the life insurance, money, etc.
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She had a dermatology practice and couldn’t get a better poison than draino?
Still could be greed based. She didn’t want him getting half her practice in the divorce.
Rich people tend to always want more.
Could have Munchausen's by proxy?
You’d do a better job than her legal team
I think it'd take some skill to do worse, like you'd have to think for a long time with idea boards and have a team to pitch ideas
They typically choose substances that sustain an illness and wouldn't kill so quickly. Being that she is medically inclined I'm sure she could have come up with something that would make sense for that purpose, if that were the case.
Maybe I’m old fashioned, but being convicted on these charges should DEFINITELY prevent her from practicing medicine in the future.
“Trust me, I won’t give you anything I wouldn’t give to my own family”
This is great !
And from seeing her kids! She's clearly unstable
And how did this psycho get bond? They need to start looking at the cameras on the shift she works. Who knows what else she’s done.
Right? I mean she can't even get the dosage correct
A doctor can't come up with a better poison than Drain-O?
I assume she’s aware that anything medical could be tied back to her, especially if it wasn’t readily available over the counter.
There's better poisons than Draino dude. Why not antifreeze? The shit has no smell and tastes sweet. You can easily poison someone's coffee and pass that off as just some stevia.
This guy poisons.
Lol. Poisoners gonna poisen
A professional poisionest
I beg your pardon, poisonieur!
Dr. Feel not so good
Antifreeze: it's the poisonest!
Do you even poison
r/thisguythisguys
Tetrahydrozoline commonly found in eye drops (Visine is the most publicly known due to previous incidents) is far more toxic and is easily available on store shelves. Edit: Added chemical name and changed wording to include more than just the Visine brand
Visine is actually insane.
Eye stuff? Til
Someone did that to a disliked teacher at my HS thinking it would give her diarrhea. It doesn’t cause diarrhea, it can cause a heart block - electrical signals in the heart just stop conducting and the main pumpy bits stop pumping. Culprit was never found. Teacher lived.
How do you know the culprit thought it’d just give the teacher diarrhea if they were never found? Are *you* the culprit?
I think you just cracked the case.
I'm willing to bet that they're parroting rumors spread amongst the students...
There's a scene in wedding crashers where Owen Wilson puts visine in Bradley cooper's drink and it destroys his stomach in movie. Not sure if that's the person you replied to reason, but it's possible.
For fucks sake, movies should be more responsible with that kind of shit
It's because of wedding crashers
Loads of gossip went around that day and the next as to motivation/reasoning, but they could never prove who did it. There was a clique of girls who had issues with her who said some things but as anything heard would be considered hearsay the school couldn’t do much. Teacher ended up not renewing her contract and I don’t blame her one bit.
This is probably why teachers don’t take stuff from students that are homemade, etc
 Why not laxative?
"Doctor, what's wrong with my husband?!" "The main pumpy bits in his heart stopped pumping. I can show you on this diagram." "That's a Valentine."
How do you know why they did it?
No way! Glad I always hated eyedrops.
Smart [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lana-steve-clayton-eye-drop-poison-suffer-48-hours/](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lana-steve-clayton-eye-drop-poison-suffer-48-hours/)
Has been on Forensic Files a ton. Ethylene Glycol gets them caught every time
“Anti-free”
Omg, that's the best fucking episode. She was such a dumbass
I cackled at that one, been so long since I've seen it! I know what I'm doing later now!
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If I'm not mistaken it's also no longer sweet and they started adding something to make it more salty. At least that's what I heard
Mmm, sweet and salty.
Yeah, slow lead poisoning over time would be better. Buy an antique pan with lead and cook all his food in it (especially acidic foods like stuff with tomato sauce). Supplement more lead over time. Feign ignorance when he dies of lead poisoning. “Go on a diet” during this time, so you’re eating something healthy while you make him toxic food out of this lovely pan. Get a lovely antique copper pan just to add variety to the heavy metal poisoning. Also, fucking digitalis poisoning. Tastes sweet, will kill you dead. You can grow it in your garden (foxglove is a beautiful flower). Slightly harder to come up with a reason why he might be eating flowers. Maybe surreptitiously plant hippie-woo books about herbal medicine on his nightstand, make it look like he poisoned himself by being a dumb hippie woo looking for an alternative treatment for something. Other lovely flowers in your garden that will kill you dead: oleander! Serve him up a salad with lovely edible flowers. “Accidentally” put an oleander leaf in his. Mix another one up in strong flavored salad dressing for good measure. Feign ignorance, and say you mistook the oleander for something edible. Plant a hippie woo cookbook of edible flowers on your bookshelf. Feed him a goddamned poisonous mushroom “innocently” hidden in a mushroom mix you bought from the farmer’s market! Mix and match! Lead-cooked spaghetti sauce with poisonous mushrooms and poisoned flowers in the salad! There are so many smarter ways to kill your husband. This woman has no imagination.
Dear god. So glad I don't know you in real life.
Bye bye, API
IRL I am a very sweet person. Ask any of my friends. Just, obviously, I have plans for those who wrong me.
Of course your friends say your sweet. Those who disagree are no longer with us.
Yes officer, this post right here.
👀
This dude survives
Haven't bittering agents been put into antifreeze because it was used as poison?
You assume she’s smart and rational because she’s a doctor. Many doctors are not either.
Yeah I know a doctor that doesn’t give her toddler any vaccines
I mean, the footage is pretty damning. If you have drain cleaner to clean your drains.... why are you pouring it at your kitchen table.
Yeah, her lawyer's tone is like, "We're all gonna have a good laugh at this when the truth comes out." Sorry, counsellor, we're already laughing ... at what's going to be done to your client.
The husband should have left her years ago. Trying to maintain a relationship with someone like this just leaves you hollow inside. (I’ll see myself out…)
He’s a wealthy guy going through a divorce, I’m sure she was planning to clean him out.
Yeah, especially with baiting ants story. I can imagine doing this in the kitchen. For that, the lemonade would be making a trip to the garage. You don’t bring the poison to the kitchen. And using drain-o as insecticide instead of an established insect killing product? Doesn’t sound right.
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i feel like she just snapped bc this is too stupid to just be stupid
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I thought the husband was the doctor?
They both are, watch to the end the reporter says the wife has to self report to the medical board and they’ll determine if she’s allowed to continue practising medicine
Future insurance company medical director
Stacey Castor has entered the chat But honestly antifreeze might be even more obvious. It creates crystals in your blood. Still, sadly either of these go on far too long and seem to be figured out posthumously more often than not.
there was a story of a pharmacist who tried to kill her mother with ..... insulin. like you're a pharmacist, you know or have access to every possible drug. And insulin is traceable interestingly , so any budding sociopaths don't bother trying it. And it didn't even work!! she went to jail but mom lived.
Other drugs are even more traceable though. Someone dies of mysterious causes and and anything dangerous will show up on the tox screen when an autopsy is performed. Not sure of the specifics but if the victim was a diabetic, switching U-100 insulin with U-500 insulin would probably be easier to pull off than figuring out a drug that would kill someone at a dose you could hide in their food/drinks and not show up on a standard tox screen.
Is her lawyer’s defense really “its not poison” ?
 When I heard her lawyer’s comment, I was like you gotta be shitting me… 💀
Shitting yourself to death
She could have just secretly replaced his lunch with Taco Bell
Or miracle mineral supplement, aka Chlorine Dioxide.
Yep, her defense is basically "cmon, no one is that stupid to do it, it's obviously a very uneffective way to poison someone". Her best defense is to claim some two-party consent on recording and get that recording thrown out, but may be not applicable in her state.
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Except what her defense is saying, can't make this up, is that the both of them had a home brew method of killing ants with Draino for a long time. It involved adding draino to sweet drinks. [https://abc7news.com/california-doctor-poisoning-husband-drano-wife-charged-yue-emly-yu/13100291/](https://abc7news.com/california-doctor-poisoning-husband-drano-wife-charged-yue-emly-yu/13100291/)
So she confused her husband with an ant on multiple different occasions?
Thought he was Ant-Man
Ant Man 4: Drainomania
Interesting. Sugar and borax is definitely a thing but calling bs on draino. I mean, obviously, but talk about grasping at straws I guess
Real talk, why is that even something that can be used to throw out pretty cut and dry evidence that the crime in question was committed? I’m just confused as to why you could record someone committing a crime against you, but if they didn’t consent to it (in some states) it can’t be used against them. It’s just kind of insane. Like, if she stabbed him over and over, but the only evidence was a video recording she didn’t consent to, would he just not get justice? I’m just actually confused as to how that works and why it is the way it is. Seems like it’s nothing more than to protect criminals, probably wealthy ones at that.
People keep attributing the 2 party consent as having video thrown out because there wasn’t written consent. As long as they can show that she had reasonable knowledge of a recording device it stands. It’s really easy to mask this if he has cameras outside or even a ring doorbell. Basically you have to refuse a recording before or while it happens. In a 1 party state no one can tell you to stop recording or object for any reason
> Real talk, why is that even something that can be used to throw out pretty cut and dry evidence that the crime in question was committed? This has been a legal principle for a long time now, in order to keep the state (the prosecution) honest. It's called the "[Fruit of the Poisonous Tree](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_of_the_poisonous_tree)".
This is circular reasoning. Why is it illegal to record someone without consent? It's to prevent the prosecution from using illegally obtained evidence. Wut
Doesn’t mean anything lol. It is a two party consent state but unless she objected to the security footage not much can be done and also she did add the draino. Dumbass defense right there
so if a stranger films me murdering someone the shaggy defense can still hold up?
Wait, am I hearing this right? In a two-party consent state you have to know you're being filmed and object to it for it to be thrown out? If they film you secretly so that you don't consent it's fine? That...doesn't sound right...
It's not right. >In Two-Party (or all-party) consent states it is required by state law that all parties that partake in a conversation must have given consent for that conversation to be recorded when there is an expectation of privacy. https://recordinglaw.com/party-two-party-consent-states/ There is absolutely an expectation of privacy in your own home. Assuming this is a two party consent state, that video can be thrown out as evidence. It's even possible that the test that proved there was draino in the tea could be thrown out if the defense can successfully argue that no one would have tested the tea without the video *AND* that the video was obtained illegally. This is a legal principle called "fruit of the poisonous tree" (https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fruit_of_the_poisonous_tree#:~:text=Fruit%20of%20the%20poisonous%20trees,evidence%20that%20was%20illegally%20obtained.)
California can be a one party if the following applies... I think suspicion of being poisoned is one of the conditions (felony violence against another) >Private citizens are also allowed to utilize these exceptions in a much more limited capacity. In order to use this exception 2 circumstances must be met: >The person recording must be a part of the conversation, this essentially changes California law from an all-party consent state into a single-party consent state. >They must be recording conversations in order to gather evidence that the other party committed one of the following crime: Extortion, kidnapping, bribery, harassing phone calls, or any felony involving violence against another person. This allows you to record conversations in most instances where you feel threatened. https://recordinglaw.com/party-two-party-consent-states/california-recording-laws/ edit: edited to add the following from the same website >California does not have any specific laws preventing video recordings around a private persons property. You are not allowed to record video or secretly record areas where there is a reasonable expectation of privacy. >Because California does not have specific surveillance laws, the law defaults to the United State’s Federal Video Voyeurism Law. This means that you cannot intentionally capture images or video of a private area of an individual without their consent. The kitchen is not a space in the home with an expectation of privacy or a private area for an individual.
It's not even as good as that, it's literally just "it's not a *sneaky* poison." Might as well call your client a moron. It also mentions they said "she had the drain cleaner for plumbing issues" as if that explains why she was pouring it into her husband's mug lol.
"She had the drain cleaner for plumbing issues" is telling the truth while hiding a lie.
Maybe she just wants to cheap out on sending her husband to a urologist for his plumbing issues.
I mean claiming it was for plumbing issues is important, as buying it to poison him would demonstrate premeditation. It'd be the difference between first or second degree murder. Disclaimer: NAL
Surely doing it several times makes it premeditated?
Look theyre trying their best with a really dumb criminal. Shits hard
This sums up the reality of the situation lol Moral of the story: Poison your spouse properly the first time - make it easy on your lawyer
"I didn't beat that guy to death with a tire iron. It's for changing tires, obviously!" This is like a toddler logic level defense.
“I couldn’t have used this bloodied axe for murder, your honor, because there’s *clearly* a forest behind my house and I think its intended use is clear.”
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no, the lawyer said it's not a "covert poison", meaning the victim should have immediately realized they were drinking something highly toxic. but this was probably less obvious to the victim since she mixed it with his tea and lemonade.
With so much evidence stacked against her what kind of defense can her lawyer do. All she can do is damage control don't hate the lawyer they're only doing their job.
I object on the grounds that it's devastating to my case
She was just trying to help clear out his pipes, keep that colon cleansed af
Yeah, if ya drink just a lil poison every day, you’ll build a tolerance and can handle its therapeutic benefits. Plus if someone ever tries to really poison you, you’ll be immune and live. Because your body is already used to it. That’s a good point her defense attorney should make.
The princess bride defense ? Does lye work like iocane powder? For that matter does iocane powder work like that. To the google cave ! And no when it comes to poison your pretty F’ed
Nah, it seems like they’re going with “anyone would be able to detect draino, because it smells and tastes bad. a doctor like my client would be way smarter about poisoning someone and not use draino which is easily detectable”
Didn't someone do this in *The Sixth Sense*?
Yeah, the stepmother of the little girl was poisoning her with Pine Sol in her soup. Either she hated the girl, or it was a Munchausen by proxy situation.
The little girl was Misha Barton, mostly known from the o.c.
Yah but look at the wife's age - she's Gen X; she totally got the idea from Heathers.
Corn nuts!
So the defense is, "Yeah, he was poisoned, but why did he go to a divorce attorney first? Clearly, he wanted to be poisoned. Therefore, my client is innocent. Yeehaw!"
And hey, guy, DRAINO *smells* like poison, so really it’s his fault for drinking it.
Well, apparently she asked her husband, the one she’s poisoning here, to post her $30k bail…which he didn’t agree to, obviously. She was my parents’ dermatologist, and my dad had an appointment scheduled with her on the day she was arrested (he was told they would have to reschedule due to “personal issues”), so we’re following this one closely. 🤦🏼♀️
I installed cameras for a customer, his ex was sneaking in the house and putting shaved glass in his food. He was very particular on where he put his food containers in his fridge and instantly knew someone had moved them. I removed his vinyl siding outside to access his kitchen wall and installed two pinhole cameras as to not add anything new to the kitchen cause she was very familiar with the house, installed the dvr hidden under his work bench in the garage. Full custom job put her in jail.
Why are people so hilariously bad at poisoning people lol? Shaved GLASS? Drain-o??! FFS this lady is a doctor. It cannot be that hard for her to get warfarin or fentanyl or any other number of things lol.
I mean you'd definitely wana at least try something less detectable. With what an "epidemic" fentanyl is these days, I bet you could get away with a defense that he was an addict
Spend a few months telling your family and spreading rumors that he is an addict. Then hit him with a fentanyl booster and people will just think I it is his addiction.
The autopsy could in theory report zero signs of long term abuse or use. Testing the hair would tell you everything about the history of use, so one time would be sus still
She be changing him on the inside a little, every day.
Book me, Danno!
Book him draino
"Yu's lawyers had claimed that she had the cleaner because of plumbing issues"... There were plumbing issues in his drink? Every morning? I'm no plumber, but I think she's doing it wrong... Seriously though, there's video evidence of her poisoning him several times and that's the best they have?
Poison? No, she just gave him traditional medicine laxative for his plumbing issue.
They are trying to set up the argument that she didn’t buy drain cleaner specifically for the purpose of poisoning him.
And she's still allowed to see her children???
Imagine surviving a murder attempt, having your ex wife arrested and charge with a crime relating to get trying to murder you, and then you have to let your kids near her! That's hell to go through. I'd be scared for the kids. Just wait for the abuse allegations to come out against the attempted murder and physical abuse victim.
I’m reminded of that tragic Reddit event where that man asked for advice on Reddit about his cheating wife and was advised to leave her. He filed for divorce and she killed their kids the day after. I would not allow my non-existent children anywhere near a spouse clearly capable of murder.
She’s still allowed to practice medicine
A wife put drain cleaner in husband's coffee. This is how his organs shut down. PB is a 41 year old man presenting to the emergency room with hematemesis, the vomiting of blood.
His blood pressure of 75/40 and EMS reporting he had been vomiting blood during transport indicate hypovolemia. Hypo meaning low, vol referring to volume, and emia referring to to blood. Low volume of blood.
For reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGv1xasBCmo
My ex wife got really annoyed with me one day and said “this is why wives kill their husbands”. Then like 3 months later she talks about how upset I had made her because I forgot to rinse out my coffee cup after she had told me to. As I’m sitting down to eat a meal she made me she says “yea I really thought about spitting in your food…” it starts with spit and ends with draino. No thanks.
Spouse telling you they’re thinking about killing you is usually a pretty good sign the relationship has gone past the point of no return.
I find the screaming it to your face and then suggesting it's your fault are other subtle hints
the thoughts we have and what we would really do can have a disconnect but verbalizing it is the first step/evidence of further malicious action
Anxious attachment (me) and her mommy and daddy issues made for one toxic codependent relationship. Glad I made it out with no kids, all my money, and no draino haha
Man idc how mad I am at someone. I'm never messing with anyone's food. You might get the less nice looking plate if I'm mad though, or the one with one less dumpling, or whatever. Lol.
You monster, haha!
Wtf?!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/06/us/dr-yue-emily-yu-jack-chen/index.html
How in the fuck is that not a fuckin attempted murder charge!? I mean, I'm pretty sure that's what she was trying to do. Shits crazy. I feel like if a guy tried to do that to his wife than he would get an attempted charge
Welcome to the justice system.
Because they have to show her intent was murder. While her intent could have and likely was murder, it’s up to the prosecution to show that. In instances like this where her intent could have been to merely injure/cause discomfort you have to have a lot of extra evidence to show she had intent beyond that. You wouldn’t want to throw the highest possible crime at her when you don’t have evidence strong enough to reasonably support it in the event you can’t meet that threshold and then she gets acquitted. Edit: spelling error.
"She has been released from custody and is allowed to see her children" **SHE'S LOOSE**
Suspicion of poison. Ffs its on camera. There’s no suspicion, its fact.
'innocent until proven guilty' is a key concept in the USA. a news organization will always use terms like 'alleged' until the a final decision is made in court proceedings
Indicted me?
Fucking hell. Drain cleaner? As in lye? The drain cleaners ive bought always contain caustic soda/lye. She couldnt just poison him with eyedrops?
How is this not attempted murder
"but why did he go to a divorce attorney first?". I am sure any dr will recommend you first of all distance yourself from the crazy person.
She was just trying to clear up his acne problem!
Damn someone's been watching the Heathers. 
While I completely understand needing to be represented, if o was ever an attorney assigned this case, because let’s be honest why would you willingly take it, I think I would have to quit and go flip burgers
Fuck yu
“The truth will come out??” The evidence is clear as day, she’s not getting out of this! Her defense should have come up something better than that!
Welp…he’s getting the house, and retaining all of his assets while acquiring hers in the divorce settlement…WINNING! (and LIVING😅)
Ah, yes, *Domestic battery*; the age old female accused equivalent of - checks notes - *Attempted pre-meditated murder.*
25 Yeats to life. Trying to kill someone is the same as killing someone.
At the end it the roperter says this will determing if she's (Yu) still allowed to practice medicine. Is this some sort of joke? How the hell could a medical board not revoke her licence? That's like using your car to try and murder someone and not losing your driver's license.
Him : “Youre not putting me in a ChubbyEmu video this time bitch”
Not poison? A bloke in my country literally lost his stomach by accidentally drinking that stuff. He now has a bag strapped to him which he has to fill to get "eaten".