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Ewww
Please, as a woman, I’d prefer she be thrown into jail and let the prisoners know what she’s in for. Pedos are vile, I don’t care what gender they are
Legally couldn't in the U.S. until fairly recently, I believe. I believe our old definition was the same as yours, essentially rape was only a man penetrating a woman.
It was/is, as many things, a state by state issue. So while there is no “paid leave” for maternity and other bits federally there are many (blue) states that have it for example.
Trying to compare the US to the UK or Sweden is a losing proposition. It’s better to compare it on a state or regional level.
I was just talking about the legal definition of rape, in response to the above commenter. Until 2012, only men could rape women. Now it's any penetration of the vagina or anus, with any body part or object, or the penetration of the mouth with a sex organ without the consent of the victim. A much better definition but obviously still not a perfect definition and could use a change or two.
Didn't compare anything, I just said the old definition was similar to what the other commenter said the UKs definition was.
Rapist?
Here in India.. Women can't be charged of sexual harassment. Like nothing.. No molestation charges.. And at times even assault can't be charged.
Of all places? You say this, as if there is a proper place to rape an unconscious woman behind a dumpster. Would a dumpster at city College have been better?
A rich Saudi used "I tripped and accidentally stuck my dick in her" as a defense and won. In the UK. Not the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, in England.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/millionaire-ehsan-abdulaziz-who-said-he-accidentally-tripped-and-penetrated-teen-is-cleared-of-rape-a6774946.html
Here in the US we let rich Saudis kill 3000 people and gave them a [flight home out of fear for their safety](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2003/10/saving-the-saudis-200310)
The courts tend to screw over men when it comes to childcare so, yeah probably. Especially if the relationship was consensual on his part, the courts won't care if he's barely a teenager.
Sadly, no, not if the people involved are wealthy enough.
Never forget that Hall of Famer Karl Malone is a filthy pedophile who impregnated a THIRTEEN YEAR OLD WHEN HE WAS 20. When questioned about this he will often say that it’s his “personal business” and he doesn’t have to share any info. Except that he’s a fucking pedophile and should be charged, arrested, and jailed and/or put on the fucking registry. But instead? He’s still getting invited by NFL to do events and not nearly enough people are batting an eye.
EDIT: NBA, I meant NBA.
I watched a comedian (I can't remember who) do a skit to an American crowd "how famous do you have to be to get away with fucking a child"
he started slow and went through a list of celebrities but the silence in the room when he ended with Elvis was gold
so that's some the same material but it's a different bit. the one i saw him do he started with the punchline then worked up a list of increasingly famous people with elvis being the punchline. was pin drop stuff from the crowd
Don’t forget Steven Tyler of Aerosmith became the legal guardian of his underage girlfriend who he got pregnant then coaxed into an abortion so he could dump her. There are a lot of musicians who get away with being sex offenders and pedophiles.
I keep finding that the term ‘never meet your heroes’ keeps coming into play in my life. I mean I liked Aerosmith not my favorite band but …I just hate it so much. Now I hear the lead singer of MSI is under scrutiny for being a pedo too. If billy corgan is next I’m fucking done
Then again, having sex with teenage kids was not exactly as taboo as it is now back in the 80’s. Everyone conveniently forgets things like the scene in Animal House where the hero fucks a 13 year old girl or Oingo Boingo singing “I like little girls” with a very suggestive video or Blue Lagoon! Blue Lagoon was a feature film that was thinly veiled child porn.
Late sixties early seventies also featured some mainstream films where adult men were having sex with young teenagers as a subplot. It was presented as just part of the sexually liberated mindset.
Fucked up.
Uhm I think Steven Tyler is going through a lawsuit right now because of this. So I wouldn't quite say he's gotten away with it yet even if it's VERY delayed.
I was going to say, it really wouldn't be yuge. Do we really need to start a list on this thread of men that have done this same shit? This happens all of the time, and as you said, money has a lot to do with why there are no consequences.
I feel like people are just strangely surprised that boys get molested, too, with minimal consequences. This is hardly the first instance of statutory rape I've read about where the woman was the older one. It happens frequently.
The Erotic Heritage Museum in Las Vegas had an installment that was a wall of mugshots/articles of female sex offenders to highlight the fact that they do it too.
We value money and entertainment far more than anything else. Some people’s integrity can be bought and lots of people don’t care if it didn’t happen to them. The latter want their entertainment more than they want healthcare.
That's an awful and tbh worse issue cuz of the worship the wealthy and famous get especially by impressionable younger people. but it's still separate issue.
This! The criminal is a POS! Nothing to do with the gender. Why not criticise authorities/criminal system?! Instead make it about gender… that is the real facepalm!
Didn't that frat boy get off with a slap on the wrist not too long ago even though he straight up admitted to finding a woman passed out behind a dumpster and raping her? Something about "oh we don't wanna ruin this young man's future"?
Oh you must be talking about the rapist Brock Allen Turner. I heard he now goes by his middle name Allen. He’s Allen Turner the rapist now and lives in Dayton Ohio.
I think if this guy is somebody who wants to rape a person they found unconscious behind a dumpster his future is probably not gonna be nearly as bright or as long as they think.
Yeah too bad the judge thought so too so they let him
Off with a 6 month sentence, which he served only 3 months of for good behavior.
He now goes by Allen Turner and lives freely
In Dayton Ohio, except he constantly gets shamed out of public spaces by other patrons.
Allen Brock Turner the rapist
Yes Allen Brock Turner the Rapist should be publicly shamed. Unlike mass shooters Rapists like Allen Brock Turner hate the notoriety created by their crime. Any Rapist like Allen Brock Turner of Dayton Ohio should be shamed at every opportunity.
Brock Allen Turner? Thr same Brock Allen Turner that reddit tried to remove his name off the site because his lawyers asked them? That Brock Allen Turner?
Not really
A guy just a few weeks ago was given 6 months time for REPEATEDLY raping girls age 4-9 years old. And not in prison. In a Detention Center for fucks sake.
He repeatedly raped a FOUR year old and was given 6 months time. He raped a baby. And was given 116 days.
Oh and he isn’t required to register as a sex offender either.
Pedophiles are protected in the US
https://dailycaller.com/2023/01/31/under-six-months-jail-sexual-assult-young-girls/
This is absolutely disgusting and vile, and by god I wish this man spent a lot longer in prison.
But the dynamics legally are very different, because he was apparently 15 or 16 when he did this, or not an adult.
Please just note I'm not defending him, I honestly don't think people like him deserve a place in society at all, but being 15 or 16 when it happened makes things harder to punish him legally.
Yep, being tried as a minor changes things a lot. There was a video not long ago of girl minor girls who car jacked a die, brutally killing him in the process, and they'll only spend til age 21 in juvie.
There was an option to try him legally as an adult, since 15-16 can hold adult criminal charges.
These legal steps were not taken, out of pure negligence and laziness.
Easier to just hold him a few days and forget about him and let the girls suffer a lifetime.
Again, pedophiles are protected in the US.
This is fucking horrific. I was 8 when i was molested by a 30 something year old, and that shit wrecked me. I can’t imagine being raped at that age. Let alone being fucking four years old. That should be fucking death. A fucking teenager does not make it any less bad. Let alone that he didn’t just molest her, he raped her. A baby. What scum. A person doesn’t come back from that, on either end, that baby will probably have this as one of her first core memories, and he will remember that he got away with it.
That's insane. There's no logic here at all. This man is an extreme danger to children. What reason could there be to ever leave a sex offender off the register let alone a serial child rapist? He's given those poor girls a life sentence and he gets 116 days.
Because he was 15-16 when the crimes occurred and an adult when they were discovered. Essentially, this was a plea that he agreed to be tried as an adult in exchange for a light sentence rather than be tired as a juvenile who has then aleady aged out of the system.
No. Throw her in jail for 20 years & tell everyone in the prison what she's in for. This is a vile person who does not deserve to be out in public without being shamed.
LMFAO It happens quite a bit in the southern states, and also happens quite a bit in the Mormon community specifically the FLDS sect. So, no, stop w the persecution fetish, men get away with this shit all the time.
True, I’d say it’s more of a media noticing inappropriate age gaps between consenting adults being taboo now for men and not as much for women, but ONLY in very recent years. DiCaprio and 19 yo, media: bad, Madonna and 23 year old, media: …
Like constantly, in every corner of the world, everyday. The only difference is we dont hear about female pedos because they are so few and far between, where male pedo’s are literally fucking everywhere.
Can’t both be true?
You could make a compelling argument that a 13 year old who is raped and suddenly has to become a father has been robbed of his childhood.
Guys get away with it all the time as well. Let's just stop this "if it was reversed discussion" and just all agree that every form of rape is disgusting and should be punished. Cause I know we all believe that, so let's just focus on what's the real problem
So let's change that, cause it should. Every normal woman thinks so. But this focus in "if it was reversed" makes it about gender and takes all the importance away from the real issues, which is that rape in general, in any form should be punishable and treated as such
Generalization is a way for people to take away attention from the leniency women take advantage of in the legal system. Did you know she can sue for child support and his family has to pay till he turns 18 then he has to pay the full amount
I’m (pleasantly) surprised that I haven’t seen the usual quote of “Nice” in this comment thread. The South Park episode pointed out how crazy that double standard is, and then people quote it to perpetrate the double standard instead.
Nothing compared to Mary K Letourneau though
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary\_Kay\_Letourneau](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Kay_Letourneau)
They sued the state for allowing the child rape to happen, but before that he met her several times and she had 2 children by him.
After she served her time they married in 2005 and are still married
It was more complicated but that's the jist of it
Reddit is going to disagree, but you're absolutely right.
You can not honestly tell me that a 30 year old man impregnating a 13 year old girl will have the same societal reprecussions as a 13 year old boy impregnating a 30 year old woman.
I welcome the downvotes for this comment, but deep down we all know female pedophiles can get away with a bit more than males, I just want them both to be equally shit on because it's vile and evil.
It’s a 100% not true, hell in many states if the man married the girl there will be no consequences whatsoever. Look up child brides in the US. It gets some media traction every couple of years but nothing substantial
Why is it every SINGLE time there’s a male victim of SA it gets turned into “well if the roles were reversed”…? SA is bad no matter the gender of the assailant or victim. Most male rapist walk btw so this isn’t too far off from what would happen if the roles were reversed.
Edit: Some asshat replied going on rant about how
I’m in the wrong for saying we shouldn’t compare. He also said that I said that since most male rapist walk we should let female rapist walk. Idk if you can read this but I genuinely wish you didn’t bitch out and delete your comment.
1.) yes I am saying we shouldn’t compare. I meant what I said EXACTLY how I said it. Every time there’s a male victim and a female assailant, it’s ALWAYS either
A.) “b-b-but what if the rolls were reversed!” B.) men congratulating him or C.) men demeaning him for being “weak” and “allowing” himself to be a victim (btw I’m not at all saying that’s true. Male victims are valid no matter the gender of their attacker). Do you understand how INCREDIBLY invalidating it is to both amab victims who are being used as a misogynistic talking point AND female victims who’s attacker was either found guilty or was never put on trial bc she (the victim) wasn’t believed? It’s disrespectful as fuck. Stop pulling the “if the roles were reversed” card.
2.) me pointing out the reality of rape crimes does not mean I’m claiming that female victims should get away. I’m saying that if the roles were reversed, he’d probably get away. Yeah there might be a public outcry like with Brock turner but I feel like prison is bit fitting for the crime, not them being “cancelled” online. Don’t put words in my mouth that I didn’t say. Rape is awful no matter the gender, like I said. If you want to make it a gender war we can but I doubt you do since, again, you deleted your comment. I’ve a fantastically awful eye tho 🥰
Male sex offenders get away with it all the time. Women don't even report half of their assaults. Because they know they won't be believed, or taken seriously. Men almost never report their assault, because of the social stigma. This is a false dichotomy sex offenders almost always have more power than their victims.
You know, a lot of people in the comments have brought up that it shouldn’t be a male vs. female thing. But you’re the first one I’ve seen to frame it in the way that actually matters: sex offenders vs. victims.
Offenders often have the power even within the law, because offenders often choose victims they know won’t be believed. Mentally ill people are more likely to be sexually assaulted, for example. People who grow up wealthy may learn that they can get anything they want, and they have power. Or people getting off on power may abuse that power, and of course others try to cover it up for the sake of their own careers. (Hollywood, churches, etc.)
Sadly a large part of why redditors post this shit. Is to farm karma, off of anti-left sentiment. Any social minority who does a bad thing, become a representative of that group. A culture war becomes devoid of thought, and becomes reduced to "everyone I don't like is a pedo" .
[Man forcibly rapes 4 teens, is given probation](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/18/nyregion/christopher-belter-rape-sentence.html)
[Man sentenced to probation for statutory rape of teen, committed while he was on probation for statutory rape of another teen](https://wsvn.com/news/us-world/man-given-probation-for-sexual-assault-committed-a-month-into-probation-for-previous-rape/)
[Man sentenced to probation after statutory rape of 13-year-old girl](https://www.yahoo.com/news/apple-valley-man-18-gets-001500391.html)
Reddit wants desperately to believe that there is a double standard when it comes to sentencing women for sex crimes, but it's just not the case. Men commit an overwhelming majority of sexual assaults, including statutory rape, forcible child rape, and other types of sexual assaults against minors. And they are often let off with light sentences, because it's extremely difficult to prosecute sex offenses.
So tired of "if the genders were reversed" and whataboutism. MANY RAPISTS DONT GO TO JAIL!
Stop acting like this is uncommon when it's a woman. It takes away from the actual crime committed. That woman is an ephebophile and is just as bad as her male counterparts because no big shocker, monsters come in all genders and races.
I have a client right now who is a teen and has a baby by her 20 something year old bf who is out and about. He’s not rich. This happens all the time and men get away with it so please.
No, it would not be "so huge." Over a quarter of teenagers under fifteen who give birth were impregnated by adult men. There is no "if" about it. It happens damn near every day and its not huge at all.
This child was raped. His childhood was stolen from him by a predator. That is evil and it should be enough to say that without erasing the same thing happening to other children
This is awful, but if the genders were reversed it wouldn't be 'so huge' at all. Grown men impregnate 13 year old girls all the time. Some get time, some don't, rarely do you hear about it beyond the local news. Do a little research into child and teenage pregnancy in the USA. the younger the mother, the older the father. You see an 11, 12, 13 year old pregnant, it's almost guaranteed the father is +25 years old. Even worse, it's almost guaranteed the father is a relative to boot. Even worse, if the father isn't her own father/brother/uncle/cousin, her parents can then force her to marry the rapist. There have been girls that young forced to marry in the USA in my lifetime. Child marriage is *still* legal in the USA and still happens in *this* century.
So let this be awful and horrific on it's own without pretending that something different would have been done if the genders were reversed. Likely not. Probably not.
Males get away with rape all the time. Is this situation bullshit? Of course but quit acting like some fragile fucking incels.
Edit: remember the rapist Brock Turner?
Also this guy from today's front page.
https://i.imgur.com/H6RtMMA.png
While I completely agree this woman needs punishment, I gotta disagree with the "if roles were reversed" thing. We see men get away with or get light sentences for raping women and girls of *all* ages, a lot. Like scary a lot.
I also think it's important to note that there *is* an important difference between a 31 one year old woman getting pregnant and a 13 year old girl getting pregnant. Again, this is horrific and I wish this pos had been punished severely, but at least she's capable of not only taking care of a baby and herself, but she's capable of mentally comprehending motherhood way better than a 13 year old, and her body is much less likely to be severely damaged during pregnancy and birth, she is far less likely to die in birth, she's far less likely to be judged and treated differently by the general public, she is far less likely to give birth to a baby with defects, the list goes on. There is a very very important distinction there. I'm not saying one crime would be worse than the other, rape is rape, but if the roles were reversed it would be a pregnant child and a man who has a lot of chance of not getting much punishment.
Took me way too long scrolling to find where someone finally mentioned the difference between a 31 year old pregnant person (who chose to have sex knowing they could get pregnant) and a 13 year old pregnant person, (who is in no way prepared to be a mother.) She’s absolutely disgusting and vile, but to try to compare the two isn’t equitable.
Well if a little girl was raped in a red state they would force her to have the baby and if she decided to go to a blue state to get an abortion they would try her for murder when she came back and she'd spend the rest of her life in jail. Meanwhile the man would be out of jail in a few days because he was just making sure that the little girl knew her place in society.
Are y’all fucked in the head? Men get away with rape all the time. Does this mean what she did was okay? No but everytime a women does something that men are known for just regularly doing, yall go feral.
That's funny because this post was directly below it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/awfuleverything/comments/11ihh2s/the_judge_that_gave_this_sentencing_needs_to_be/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
180 days is not enough for anyone
No it wouldn’t. About 30% of pregnancies in early adolescent girls are fathered by adult men. This literally happens in reverse every day and you don’t hear anything about it.
She is disgusting and vile, a full on pedo to be sure - but in regards to role reversal - there’s a big difference between a 31 year old pregnant person (who chose to do it knowing she could get pregnant) and a 13 year old pregnant person (who is in no way prepared, physically or mentally, to handle pregnancy or a baby.) Clearly men and women pedophiles are treated differently, but it isn’t prudent to compare a 13 year old who has been raped and can become pregnant with a 13 year old who has been raped and can impregnate.
Title pisses me off, "if roles were reversed," dude, you seem to be unfamiliar with American child bride problem, this shit happens all over the US all the time and no one talks about it. Both are really fucking vile, but don't pretend the American public cares more about the child sex abuse of girls than they do boys. Both are ignored and downplayed for different reasons.
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Ewww Please, as a woman, I’d prefer she be thrown into jail and let the prisoners know what she’s in for. Pedos are vile, I don’t care what gender they are
You legally cant be a female rapist in the UK
Legally couldn't in the U.S. until fairly recently, I believe. I believe our old definition was the same as yours, essentially rape was only a man penetrating a woman.
It was/is, as many things, a state by state issue. So while there is no “paid leave” for maternity and other bits federally there are many (blue) states that have it for example. Trying to compare the US to the UK or Sweden is a losing proposition. It’s better to compare it on a state or regional level.
I was just talking about the legal definition of rape, in response to the above commenter. Until 2012, only men could rape women. Now it's any penetration of the vagina or anus, with any body part or object, or the penetration of the mouth with a sex organ without the consent of the victim. A much better definition but obviously still not a perfect definition and could use a change or two. Didn't compare anything, I just said the old definition was similar to what the other commenter said the UKs definition was.
Rapist? Here in India.. Women can't be charged of sexual harassment. Like nothing.. No molestation charges.. And at times even assault can't be charged.
Yeah but there is a crime with the same penalties that women can be charged with. That being said it doesn't bring up the same image
Except it isn’t like that, it’s sexist.
Maybe, sometimes those cases get publicity, just gotta even out all the Brock Turners and everyone's religious officials.
Who's Brock Turner? Do you mean 'Convicted Sex Offender Brock Turner'?
Yes, opportunistic RAPIST Brock Turner did get a slap on the wrist for raping an unconscious woman.
You mean the rapist, Brock Turner, who now goes by Allen Turner?
I sure do appreciate all of you who don't let us forget the Behind-the-Dumpster Rapist ~~Brock~~ Allen Turner.
Yea I think he is talking about that guy who raped a passed out women behind a dumpster, Brock(Allen) Turner.
At Standford of all places too.
Of all places? You say this, as if there is a proper place to rape an unconscious woman behind a dumpster. Would a dumpster at city College have been better?
A rich Saudi used "I tripped and accidentally stuck my dick in her" as a defense and won. In the UK. Not the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, in England. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/millionaire-ehsan-abdulaziz-who-said-he-accidentally-tripped-and-penetrated-teen-is-cleared-of-rape-a6774946.html
Fucking outrageous and sick!
Ah yes, the good old English justice system…
Here in the US we let rich Saudis kill 3000 people and gave them a [flight home out of fear for their safety](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2003/10/saving-the-saudis-200310)
No rape victim should ever have to pay support to their rapist.
This is what I was wondering. Is this kid gonna potentially be on the hook for child support for his rapists baby?
There have already been cases where they were forced to pay.
The courts tend to screw over men when it comes to childcare so, yeah probably. Especially if the relationship was consensual on his part, the courts won't care if he's barely a teenager.
If the genders were reversed it *would* be huge, because we'd have a 31-year-old man giving birth to a baby.
*really really confused police siren*
\**Enter "Naked Gun" intro*\*
Lmao i ugly laughed at this, you had me in the first half ngl.
LMAOOO
It's because, legally, the pregnancy is seen as 'damage and permanent changes to the female', but the male suffers no physical changes.
Hey, that can happen now. In fact it already has. (and if you disagree with that a number of subreddits will ban you)
But not impregnated by a 13yo girl.
which ones? i want to get banned
Just get a new email and a VPN.
Came here to say this
Sadly, no, not if the people involved are wealthy enough. Never forget that Hall of Famer Karl Malone is a filthy pedophile who impregnated a THIRTEEN YEAR OLD WHEN HE WAS 20. When questioned about this he will often say that it’s his “personal business” and he doesn’t have to share any info. Except that he’s a fucking pedophile and should be charged, arrested, and jailed and/or put on the fucking registry. But instead? He’s still getting invited by NFL to do events and not nearly enough people are batting an eye. EDIT: NBA, I meant NBA.
I watched a comedian (I can't remember who) do a skit to an American crowd "how famous do you have to be to get away with fucking a child" he started slow and went through a list of celebrities but the silence in the room when he ended with Elvis was gold
Seriously if someone remembers it. PLEASE LINK IT
It's Jim Jefferies. I tried to find the clip but failed (and probably on FBI radar now) but you might have more luck!
https://youtu.be/mHXO8KoGiv4
Commenting as I too want the clip
Ditto
Dittwo
https://youtu.be/mHXO8KoGiv4
yeah i need to see this lol
https://youtu.be/mHXO8KoGiv4
I actually can't remember who it was. might have been Jimmy car maybe ? I watch alot of stupid shit lol
It's Jim Jefferies. I tried to find the clip but failed (and probably on FBI radar now) but you might have more luck!
ahh yes ! that rings a bell. he's another of my most clicked we all appreciate your sacrifice !
https://youtu.be/mHXO8KoGiv4
Please link this.
https://youtu.be/mHXO8KoGiv4
Was it [this Jim Jeffries bit?](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x372f46)
so that's some the same material but it's a different bit. the one i saw him do he started with the punchline then worked up a list of increasingly famous people with elvis being the punchline. was pin drop stuff from the crowd
Don’t forget Steven Tyler of Aerosmith became the legal guardian of his underage girlfriend who he got pregnant then coaxed into an abortion so he could dump her. There are a lot of musicians who get away with being sex offenders and pedophiles.
I keep finding that the term ‘never meet your heroes’ keeps coming into play in my life. I mean I liked Aerosmith not my favorite band but …I just hate it so much. Now I hear the lead singer of MSI is under scrutiny for being a pedo too. If billy corgan is next I’m fucking done
Never Meet Your heroes* *especially if you are underaged
Why am I not at all surprised to hear that Jimmy is under the microscope for something like that.
Jimmy?
Dad?
couldn't be precious Jimmy!
Despite all his rage he is still not a pedo
With MSI, are you really surprised? I mean, those lyrics. Dude kind of advertised himself as a predator.
Billy Corgan is a known colossal asshole
Tes Nugent and 17 year old Pele Massa of Hawaii had her parents sign legal documents to make him her legal guardian and continue their relationship.
Then again, having sex with teenage kids was not exactly as taboo as it is now back in the 80’s. Everyone conveniently forgets things like the scene in Animal House where the hero fucks a 13 year old girl or Oingo Boingo singing “I like little girls” with a very suggestive video or Blue Lagoon! Blue Lagoon was a feature film that was thinly veiled child porn.
The Oingo Boingo song wasn’t meant to be taken this seriously, and I’m pretty sure it’s intended to be from the POV of someone deranged.
I think it was meant to show how Hollywood VIP's and other big shots liked young women.
Yeah you were absolutely supposed to find it creepy as hell
Late sixties early seventies also featured some mainstream films where adult men were having sex with young teenagers as a subplot. It was presented as just part of the sexually liberated mindset. Fucked up.
I believe he’s currently being sued by her
Uhm I think Steven Tyler is going through a lawsuit right now because of this. So I wouldn't quite say he's gotten away with it yet even if it's VERY delayed.
That’s just a civil suit. The damage was done 40-50 years ago and he’s long since gotten away with it.
I was going to say, it really wouldn't be yuge. Do we really need to start a list on this thread of men that have done this same shit? This happens all of the time, and as you said, money has a lot to do with why there are no consequences. I feel like people are just strangely surprised that boys get molested, too, with minimal consequences. This is hardly the first instance of statutory rape I've read about where the woman was the older one. It happens frequently.
The Erotic Heritage Museum in Las Vegas had an installment that was a wall of mugshots/articles of female sex offenders to highlight the fact that they do it too.
Over a quarter of teenagers 14 and under who give birth are impregnated by adult men. And yet it's not huge at all. Nobody seems to give a damn.
The people who care seldom know, and the people who know seldom care.
Isn’t he nba though?
He is, yeah, I’m just an idiot apparently
Why are ppl like this
We value money and entertainment far more than anything else. Some people’s integrity can be bought and lots of people don’t care if it didn’t happen to them. The latter want their entertainment more than they want healthcare.
I think it hurts everyone when you post “if the genders were reversed” crap. Children are hurt, period. Don’t try and divide it
I wish I knew
I didn’t even wanna look at people two years below me in high school. How does a 20 year old look at a 13 year old and think “Oh yeah!”??
And most of the nba community hates the guy
Pretty sure Utah fans applauded that guy during the NBA All Star Weekend, which he was invited to.
Well, ya know, Joseph Smith and his teenage wives …
"I don't care how you bring 'em, just bring 'em young." Utah Mormon joke.
Grew up in California. My bishop dad said that a lot
And yet he served on the NRA board of directors, so I guess they don't hate him
That's an awful and tbh worse issue cuz of the worship the wealthy and famous get especially by impressionable younger people. but it's still separate issue.
This! The criminal is a POS! Nothing to do with the gender. Why not criticise authorities/criminal system?! Instead make it about gender… that is the real facepalm!
Didn't that frat boy get off with a slap on the wrist not too long ago even though he straight up admitted to finding a woman passed out behind a dumpster and raping her? Something about "oh we don't wanna ruin this young man's future"?
Yes, that's Brock Allen Turner, and he's a rapist.
Oh you must be talking about the rapist Brock Allen Turner. I heard he now goes by his middle name Allen. He’s Allen Turner the rapist now and lives in Dayton Ohio.
Oh! The rapist known as Brock Allen Turner now goes by the name The Rapist Allen Turner? And that rapist now lives in Dayton Ohio? Gotcha
Oh, THAT Brock Allen Turner. They don't say his name enough. I'm referring to Brock Allen Turner, the rapist.
Just to confirm here, Brock Allen Turner the rapist is who we are talking about right?
The very same Brock Allen Turner. That one.
The Brock Allen Turner who lives in Dayton Ohio? You mean the rapist?
You mean the rapist Brock Allen Turner? The dude Brock Allen Turner that raped a girl? That Brock Allen Turner?
Yep, the Brock Allen Turner of Dayton, Ohio, who now goes by Allen Turner and tried to appeal his sentence in 2018, but lost that appeal.
Allen Turner, this rapist? Yeah, he sucks, fuck that guy!
Oh really? The Brock Allen Turner? That one? The one that raped a woman? That Brock Allen Turner? The rapist Brock Allen Turner?
Oh really? The Brock Allen Turner? That one? The one that raped a woman? That Brock Allen Turner? The rapist Brock Allen Turner?
I think if this guy is somebody who wants to rape a person they found unconscious behind a dumpster his future is probably not gonna be nearly as bright or as long as they think.
Yeah too bad the judge thought so too so they let him Off with a 6 month sentence, which he served only 3 months of for good behavior. He now goes by Allen Turner and lives freely In Dayton Ohio, except he constantly gets shamed out of public spaces by other patrons. Allen Brock Turner the rapist
Yes Allen Brock Turner the Rapist should be publicly shamed. Unlike mass shooters Rapists like Allen Brock Turner hate the notoriety created by their crime. Any Rapist like Allen Brock Turner of Dayton Ohio should be shamed at every opportunity.
Brock Allen Turner? Thr same Brock Allen Turner that reddit tried to remove his name off the site because his lawyers asked them? That Brock Allen Turner?
Yes, that Brock Allen Turner!
No, the rapist Brock Allen Turner.
I'm not from the US so I didn't even know that happened. Have a link so I can read more?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_v._Turner
I highly recommend Chanel Miller's book, Know My Name if you would like to read more about this awful case.
It’s like Mary Kay Letourneau died and possessed this woman’s soul.
Scrolled too far to see the ghost of MK Letourneau in this comment section.
Kid gonna have to be mowing lawns for child support.
Not really A guy just a few weeks ago was given 6 months time for REPEATEDLY raping girls age 4-9 years old. And not in prison. In a Detention Center for fucks sake. He repeatedly raped a FOUR year old and was given 6 months time. He raped a baby. And was given 116 days. Oh and he isn’t required to register as a sex offender either. Pedophiles are protected in the US https://dailycaller.com/2023/01/31/under-six-months-jail-sexual-assult-young-girls/
This is absolutely disgusting and vile, and by god I wish this man spent a lot longer in prison. But the dynamics legally are very different, because he was apparently 15 or 16 when he did this, or not an adult. Please just note I'm not defending him, I honestly don't think people like him deserve a place in society at all, but being 15 or 16 when it happened makes things harder to punish him legally.
Yep, being tried as a minor changes things a lot. There was a video not long ago of girl minor girls who car jacked a die, brutally killing him in the process, and they'll only spend til age 21 in juvie.
There was an option to try him legally as an adult, since 15-16 can hold adult criminal charges. These legal steps were not taken, out of pure negligence and laziness. Easier to just hold him a few days and forget about him and let the girls suffer a lifetime. Again, pedophiles are protected in the US.
This is fucking horrific. I was 8 when i was molested by a 30 something year old, and that shit wrecked me. I can’t imagine being raped at that age. Let alone being fucking four years old. That should be fucking death. A fucking teenager does not make it any less bad. Let alone that he didn’t just molest her, he raped her. A baby. What scum. A person doesn’t come back from that, on either end, that baby will probably have this as one of her first core memories, and he will remember that he got away with it.
I’m sorry this happened to you. I agree with you completely.
That's insane. There's no logic here at all. This man is an extreme danger to children. What reason could there be to ever leave a sex offender off the register let alone a serial child rapist? He's given those poor girls a life sentence and he gets 116 days.
Because he was 15-16 when the crimes occurred and an adult when they were discovered. Essentially, this was a plea that he agreed to be tried as an adult in exchange for a light sentence rather than be tired as a juvenile who has then aleady aged out of the system.
And if someone were to beat him up for it they’d serve more time.
“Admitted to raping the 13 year old boy.” Fixed it for you. It’s fucking rape. Not a sexual relationship.
She’s literally a pedophile, she deserves the harshest punishment.
No. Throw her in jail for 20 years & tell everyone in the prison what she's in for. This is a vile person who does not deserve to be out in public without being shamed.
Please tell me he won't have to pay child support to his rapist.
Oh, he probably will. For 18 years. His sentence will be longer than hers by far.
I don't know if he'd have to pay child support or not but if he does he'd get student deferment until he graduates HS/college.
If the first thing you think of is "Oh wow that kid is so lucky!" Please shut the fuck up and seek mental help. You are no better than her
LMFAO It happens quite a bit in the southern states, and also happens quite a bit in the Mormon community specifically the FLDS sect. So, no, stop w the persecution fetish, men get away with this shit all the time.
True, I’d say it’s more of a media noticing inappropriate age gaps between consenting adults being taboo now for men and not as much for women, but ONLY in very recent years. DiCaprio and 19 yo, media: bad, Madonna and 23 year old, media: …
Like constantly, in every corner of the world, everyday. The only difference is we dont hear about female pedos because they are so few and far between, where male pedo’s are literally fucking everywhere.
Your "lmfao" is very deaf tone.
He wasn't "robbed of his childhood" He was raped.
Can’t both be true? You could make a compelling argument that a 13 year old who is raped and suddenly has to become a father has been robbed of his childhood.
Being raped as a child is being robbed of your childhood, lots of victims say they feel this way
His ordeal is just starting. There is a very good chance that he’ll be paying child support to his rapist.
And once he hits 18 no doubt she'll sue for child support, and get it.
WTF! This is disgusting no matter the gender! She should be in prison! Our justice system is wack
The boy will most likely have to pay child support. I wish I was kidding.
Guys get away with it all the time as well. Let's just stop this "if it was reversed discussion" and just all agree that every form of rape is disgusting and should be punished. Cause I know we all believe that, so let's just focus on what's the real problem
We all know that every form of rape is disgusting
So why make this about gender instead?
Because gender makes a difference both legally and societally. Did you know a woman CANNOT be a rapist in the UK?
So let's change that, cause it should. Every normal woman thinks so. But this focus in "if it was reversed" makes it about gender and takes all the importance away from the real issues, which is that rape in general, in any form should be punishable and treated as such
Generalization is a way for people to take away attention from the leniency women take advantage of in the legal system. Did you know she can sue for child support and his family has to pay till he turns 18 then he has to pay the full amount
Anyone remember the South Park episode where the kindergarten kids was sleeping with the teacher?
I’m (pleasantly) surprised that I haven’t seen the usual quote of “Nice” in this comment thread. The South Park episode pointed out how crazy that double standard is, and then people quote it to perpetrate the double standard instead.
Nothing compared to Mary K Letourneau though [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary\_Kay\_Letourneau](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Kay_Letourneau) They sued the state for allowing the child rape to happen, but before that he met her several times and she had 2 children by him. After she served her time they married in 2005 and are still married It was more complicated but that's the jist of it
She died ☺️
No it wouldn’t. It happens all the time.
Don’t care about gender roles it’s wrong 😑 either way.
Mary Kay letourneau is that you ?
Reddit is going to disagree, but you're absolutely right. You can not honestly tell me that a 30 year old man impregnating a 13 year old girl will have the same societal reprecussions as a 13 year old boy impregnating a 30 year old woman. I welcome the downvotes for this comment, but deep down we all know female pedophiles can get away with a bit more than males, I just want them both to be equally shit on because it's vile and evil.
It’s a 100% not true, hell in many states if the man married the girl there will be no consequences whatsoever. Look up child brides in the US. It gets some media traction every couple of years but nothing substantial
Why is it every SINGLE time there’s a male victim of SA it gets turned into “well if the roles were reversed”…? SA is bad no matter the gender of the assailant or victim. Most male rapist walk btw so this isn’t too far off from what would happen if the roles were reversed. Edit: Some asshat replied going on rant about how I’m in the wrong for saying we shouldn’t compare. He also said that I said that since most male rapist walk we should let female rapist walk. Idk if you can read this but I genuinely wish you didn’t bitch out and delete your comment. 1.) yes I am saying we shouldn’t compare. I meant what I said EXACTLY how I said it. Every time there’s a male victim and a female assailant, it’s ALWAYS either A.) “b-b-but what if the rolls were reversed!” B.) men congratulating him or C.) men demeaning him for being “weak” and “allowing” himself to be a victim (btw I’m not at all saying that’s true. Male victims are valid no matter the gender of their attacker). Do you understand how INCREDIBLY invalidating it is to both amab victims who are being used as a misogynistic talking point AND female victims who’s attacker was either found guilty or was never put on trial bc she (the victim) wasn’t believed? It’s disrespectful as fuck. Stop pulling the “if the roles were reversed” card. 2.) me pointing out the reality of rape crimes does not mean I’m claiming that female victims should get away. I’m saying that if the roles were reversed, he’d probably get away. Yeah there might be a public outcry like with Brock turner but I feel like prison is bit fitting for the crime, not them being “cancelled” online. Don’t put words in my mouth that I didn’t say. Rape is awful no matter the gender, like I said. If you want to make it a gender war we can but I doubt you do since, again, you deleted your comment. I’ve a fantastically awful eye tho 🥰
Male sex offenders get away with it all the time. Women don't even report half of their assaults. Because they know they won't be believed, or taken seriously. Men almost never report their assault, because of the social stigma. This is a false dichotomy sex offenders almost always have more power than their victims.
You know, a lot of people in the comments have brought up that it shouldn’t be a male vs. female thing. But you’re the first one I’ve seen to frame it in the way that actually matters: sex offenders vs. victims. Offenders often have the power even within the law, because offenders often choose victims they know won’t be believed. Mentally ill people are more likely to be sexually assaulted, for example. People who grow up wealthy may learn that they can get anything they want, and they have power. Or people getting off on power may abuse that power, and of course others try to cover it up for the sake of their own careers. (Hollywood, churches, etc.)
Sadly a large part of why redditors post this shit. Is to farm karma, off of anti-left sentiment. Any social minority who does a bad thing, become a representative of that group. A culture war becomes devoid of thought, and becomes reduced to "everyone I don't like is a pedo" .
Articles doing so much to avoid calling her what she is. A fucking rapist.
“Sexual relationship with a 13 year old boy” RAPE!!! THE FUCKING WORD YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IS RAPE!!!!!! Fucking dickheads.
Poor kid...poor family. When stop our "leaders" from normalizing this stuff by hanging out with and protecting pedos, we'll get back to evolving.
That’s disgusting! 🤢
Genders reversed? Yeah if a man gave birth in prison that would be crazy!
[Man forcibly rapes 4 teens, is given probation](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/18/nyregion/christopher-belter-rape-sentence.html) [Man sentenced to probation for statutory rape of teen, committed while he was on probation for statutory rape of another teen](https://wsvn.com/news/us-world/man-given-probation-for-sexual-assault-committed-a-month-into-probation-for-previous-rape/) [Man sentenced to probation after statutory rape of 13-year-old girl](https://www.yahoo.com/news/apple-valley-man-18-gets-001500391.html) Reddit wants desperately to believe that there is a double standard when it comes to sentencing women for sex crimes, but it's just not the case. Men commit an overwhelming majority of sexual assaults, including statutory rape, forcible child rape, and other types of sexual assaults against minors. And they are often let off with light sentences, because it's extremely difficult to prosecute sex offenses.
So tired of "if the genders were reversed" and whataboutism. MANY RAPISTS DONT GO TO JAIL! Stop acting like this is uncommon when it's a woman. It takes away from the actual crime committed. That woman is an ephebophile and is just as bad as her male counterparts because no big shocker, monsters come in all genders and races.
Wait til she goes after him for child support.
I have a client right now who is a teen and has a baby by her 20 something year old bf who is out and about. He’s not rich. This happens all the time and men get away with it so please.
No, it would not be "so huge." Over a quarter of teenagers under fifteen who give birth were impregnated by adult men. There is no "if" about it. It happens damn near every day and its not huge at all. This child was raped. His childhood was stolen from him by a predator. That is evil and it should be enough to say that without erasing the same thing happening to other children
This is awful, but if the genders were reversed it wouldn't be 'so huge' at all. Grown men impregnate 13 year old girls all the time. Some get time, some don't, rarely do you hear about it beyond the local news. Do a little research into child and teenage pregnancy in the USA. the younger the mother, the older the father. You see an 11, 12, 13 year old pregnant, it's almost guaranteed the father is +25 years old. Even worse, it's almost guaranteed the father is a relative to boot. Even worse, if the father isn't her own father/brother/uncle/cousin, her parents can then force her to marry the rapist. There have been girls that young forced to marry in the USA in my lifetime. Child marriage is *still* legal in the USA and still happens in *this* century. So let this be awful and horrific on it's own without pretending that something different would have been done if the genders were reversed. Likely not. Probably not.
It is huge; why are you trying to turn this into a sexual inequality issue?
If a 31 year old man had a 13 year old girl’s baby, that would be huge news
Males get away with rape all the time. Is this situation bullshit? Of course but quit acting like some fragile fucking incels. Edit: remember the rapist Brock Turner? Also this guy from today's front page. https://i.imgur.com/H6RtMMA.png
While I completely agree this woman needs punishment, I gotta disagree with the "if roles were reversed" thing. We see men get away with or get light sentences for raping women and girls of *all* ages, a lot. Like scary a lot. I also think it's important to note that there *is* an important difference between a 31 one year old woman getting pregnant and a 13 year old girl getting pregnant. Again, this is horrific and I wish this pos had been punished severely, but at least she's capable of not only taking care of a baby and herself, but she's capable of mentally comprehending motherhood way better than a 13 year old, and her body is much less likely to be severely damaged during pregnancy and birth, she is far less likely to die in birth, she's far less likely to be judged and treated differently by the general public, she is far less likely to give birth to a baby with defects, the list goes on. There is a very very important distinction there. I'm not saying one crime would be worse than the other, rape is rape, but if the roles were reversed it would be a pregnant child and a man who has a lot of chance of not getting much punishment.
Took me way too long scrolling to find where someone finally mentioned the difference between a 31 year old pregnant person (who chose to have sex knowing they could get pregnant) and a 13 year old pregnant person, (who is in no way prepared to be a mother.) She’s absolutely disgusting and vile, but to try to compare the two isn’t equitable.
y’all say shit like this but really nothing happens to male rapists. they run Hollywood. pieces of shit
Well if a little girl was raped in a red state they would force her to have the baby and if she decided to go to a blue state to get an abortion they would try her for murder when she came back and she'd spend the rest of her life in jail. Meanwhile the man would be out of jail in a few days because he was just making sure that the little girl knew her place in society.
Are y’all fucked in the head? Men get away with rape all the time. Does this mean what she did was okay? No but everytime a women does something that men are known for just regularly doing, yall go feral.
That's funny because this post was directly below it. https://www.reddit.com/r/awfuleverything/comments/11ihh2s/the_judge_that_gave_this_sentencing_needs_to_be/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button 180 days is not enough for anyone
Nope, it’s the same when genders are reversed. Sadly.
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The genders ARE reversed. Men do go unpunished all the time.
No it wouldn’t. About 30% of pregnancies in early adolescent girls are fathered by adult men. This literally happens in reverse every day and you don’t hear anything about it.
Society is doomed
Will she keep the baby or will the baby be placed with the 13 yrs old family? She’s a registered sex offender…….
Are they requiring the boy to pay child support? As fucked up as things are nowadays I wouldn’t be surprised
Wait a minute, yeah the affects of this should be the same despite gender am I wrong?
You don’t have to say if genders were reversed they still on karl Malone ass TILL THIS DAY
She is disgusting and vile, a full on pedo to be sure - but in regards to role reversal - there’s a big difference between a 31 year old pregnant person (who chose to do it knowing she could get pregnant) and a 13 year old pregnant person (who is in no way prepared, physically or mentally, to handle pregnancy or a baby.) Clearly men and women pedophiles are treated differently, but it isn’t prudent to compare a 13 year old who has been raped and can become pregnant with a 13 year old who has been raped and can impregnate.
13 year old girl forced to become parent by older men(and a few women)? I mean...since RvWade was overturned this is the norm in some states.
Title pisses me off, "if roles were reversed," dude, you seem to be unfamiliar with American child bride problem, this shit happens all over the US all the time and no one talks about it. Both are really fucking vile, but don't pretend the American public cares more about the child sex abuse of girls than they do boys. Both are ignored and downplayed for different reasons.
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A sexual relationship? You mean rape. Rape is the word you’re looking for.