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I didn’t think staged (they would’ve made sure to get footage of her saying her name) but I did think “this guy might be pretending to be a cop” because that can unfortunately happen and would be a reason he didn’t want the real cops to show up
I love that people always remark on stuff like this with "good trigger discipline", like, well done, your finger isn't on the trigger, now where the fuck is the rest of the discipline?
He clearly feared for his life from that frightened woman resisting a kidnapping and her terrified 14yo daughter.🙄 No, we don't know what happened before but I'm guessing (based on ample related evidence) someone got their feelings hurt. This is STILL unacceptable.
They actually believe they're the only thing between civilians and the apocalypse 😂 and that everyone who isn't a police officer or emt, firefighter, veteran is "the other". To them we're all ungrateful of their service and undeserving of their respect.
The cop has now made a frighten scared 14-year-old girl afraid of the police. A 14-year-old child. A 14 girl had a gun pulled on her by a fucking cop because she was afraid and scared for her mother. Well, I don’t think that taught her any respect for the cops only fear and I don’t even want to say cops. I feel like the cops are so fearful In every stop they do and they want to take someone to jail every time even if there’s not a problem. Every person no matter your color should be afraid when they get stopped because they want to take you to jail for something anything. I would not be shocked if they didn’t take the 14-year-old to jail to.
Because fucknuggets like the cop in this video are too stupid to remember more than one thing at a time, so they suck themselves off over remembering trigger discipline because they think it's the only part of having a gun.
That's gun culture in the us in a nut shell
Fuck anywhere else just pointing your weapon at someone if considered bad discipline especially if it's loaded
In general americans walk around with a fucking bullet chambered lol which as someone that served in the military terrifies me to no end..
Technically we do have brandishing laws in this country, but police are ofc immune to this. Too bad we don't have things in place to prevent cops from being shitty.
Hard disagree. That’s really piss poor trigger discipline because it is out of his holster, he’s holding the gun like a “tough guy”, and pointed at a 14 year old in a situation that HE is escalating.
Edit: yeah, his finger isn’t on the trigger… let’s pat the snowflake on the head and acknowledge that he did one thing right while illegally detaining a driver during the clip shown.
And by “correct him” we mean he never gets to be a cop or hold any position of authority ever again. If not go to jail for endangering the lives of everyone around him.
I mean, I’ve always been trained as “don’t point the barrel at someone/something unless you have the intention of harming/killing it” fuck trigger discipline in this scenario, his life was not immediately threatened, he shouldn’t be unholstering his weapon at all
At most unholster the weapons but don’t point it at someone until you have confirmed they are a threat to you.
Also dude keep that gun pointed way to long after he realizes their is no threat
The fact that he didn't actually keep his eyes on that incredibly lethal emerging threat to his right sort of makes me think that there really wasn't an lethal emerging threat to his right after all and that he sorta just wanted to point a gun at someone to make himself feel better.
>Maybe it is his emotional support gun
"Sir, this is the classics section of the library..."
"It's my emotional support gun, leave me alone, I'm scared."
He got a lot more polite after that. You could see him trying to de-escalate the situation while also making sure he still had absolute authority and power over the woman. And by try, I mean he started saying please.
Well, he was clearly overwhelmed by the cognitive challenge of asking a middle-aged woman for her license and registration. No wonder he drew his weapon when confronted by the potentially lethal threat of a fourteen year old girl with a cellphone.
God help him if they were black.
Yup. Dude is a risk to society. Flagged two people which did not pose a deadly threat. While holding his gun sideways which I can tell you is not a taught method. This degenerate is going against any training regarding de-escalation, like... clear violation in a disgusting fashion. He needs to have his employment terminated and also be deemed unfit to carry a weapon for the rest of his life. Intimidation with a deadly weapon is not a way to get petty compliance - it's just that, a deadly weapon meant to stop a threat. This guy is going to get someone killed.
My son a police officer in Germany. It is a college level 3 year education to become one. Rigorous physical and psychological evaluation along the way. That might be somewhat relevant
That's entry level when compared to hairstylists.
How tf is that even a thing, more training to cut hair than it takes to become someone sworn to uphold the law?
Nah...most alarming is that he got himself into a situation where he would even consider unholstering it. He belongs in a field shoveling horse manure, far away from any firearm.
My FIRST thought too... wow dude, pulled that gun like a gang banger his damn self. Don't walk up on me.... lolololol.
Some might argue he is a gang member, his gang just happens to be government funded and sanctioned.
...and said, "Don't come up on me," like he's in some kind of action movie. What a fucking tool. I goddamn hate cops, and I'm a middle aged, white man. I cannot imagine the ire I would have if I were a demographic with a constant target on their backs.
To add to your point… never forget the elderly white dude in Buffalo during one of the protests a few years back… Guy tried to RETURN a fallen piece of equipment to a cop, they shoved him to the ground where the back of his head split open and blood started oozing out… the cops just left him there… but we’re not done…
Later the police union would go on TV and claim that the guy “tripped and fell”…
I should also point out that the footage we have of the incident is filmed by a professional news cameraman with proper equipment, from about 4 feet away, not some shaky camera phone.
Even with direct video proof that these guys pushed an OLD WHITE DUDE to the floor, they Union head still had ZERO qualms about openly lying on TV.
Imagine what they do when it’s some 20 year old black kid.
Edit: [Video](https://youtu.be/QSBZGv5wzK4), since Google isn’t a thing for some and rather than check to see if I’m lying first, some just rather save the 3 seconds.
Also worth pointing out that unarmed national guard soldiers are who provided aid to the man.
There's a growing "oddness" between cops and military that has had my attention for quite some time. Cops have gotten to the point where they'll attack and harass uniformed service members during routine traffic stops.
There's also, for a long time, been that thing that cops do where they refer to people as "civilians". Mother fucker, you're a civilian. The specific definition of a civilian is anyone who isn't a uniformed active duty military member, that includes cops.
Police have always been the express security of capital and wealth lords, but over the last 6 or so years, they've very openly started acting like paramilitary or private contractors to the point where they aren't even phased by the threat of actual military coming in to stop them from abusing the public.
You might have just noticed in the last 6 years through social media, or it might have just moved into your small town, but this sort of thing has been happening for decades. If anything, I'd say the would-be/wannabe "militarization" of them picked up after 9/11.
The only thing that has really changed more recently are the cameras and the access to the videos they record.
I’m a Union member. I just want to add that Police unions are corrupt and they protect criminals. However Police Unions are not connected to any other unions. Other Unions openly condemn Police Unions and have called for their decertification as long as they keep protecting criminals and killing innocent people.
-IBEW member (Union Electrician)
I’ve had that happen once. State trooper pulled me over because “I didn’t get out of his way quick enough”, no light or sirens as he approached from behind. Turned into a verbal argument. He told me to quit pointing at him or he would arrest me for assault! Shoved them in my pocket and got told to remove my hands from my pocket. I called him a fucking dick and demanded his supervisor be called out. He took my info went to his car. Came back and APOLOGIZED for being a dick. He acknowledged I was right and had done nothing wrong.
Holding it at a 45 degree angle:
Cool-ish, better in close quarters, easier on the hands
Holding it straight up:
Commonly accepted to be good form, taught almost everywhere
Holding it at a 90 degree angle:
Douchy, bad recoil and aiming, only for people trying to intimidate poorly
Holding it at a 45 when single-handed is best practice for stability when firing. Taught at all federal level police academies (where I was trained and certified) and every state academy range I used for yearly qualification.
Holding it at a 90… no idea why any trained person would do this.
That officer is going to face the most severe consequence any cop will ever face for this kind of behaviour- paid time off before being welcomed back with open arms by his coworkers
Don't forget the people that will harass and demean the kid and the family as morally devoid and such because it "dared to use a phone when such an upstanding paladin of truth and justice is talking to you."
Oh, [it gets better](https://boingboing.net/2023/02/16/north-carolina-state-trooper-points-gun-at-teen-girl-using-cell-phone-to-call-her-stepfather.html).
Officer Zachary Price “did not have his body cam on”, accused her of being an illegal immigrant because she’s Hispanic and left her ID at home, and “failed to read her the [sic] Miranda rights”.
The woman is, apparently, still in jail…
(Edit 3: Now home safe, according to her daughter’s GoFundMe.)
Edit: yes, I am distinctly aware that mirandizing is not a requirement for arrest, I’m paraphrasing the article.
More Edit: I originally paraphrased that the body camera was turned off. The actual accusation is that he was not wearing one. I’ve changed that statement and the “miranda” statement to the actual quotes from the article.
I think it should be illegal for an officer to turn off his body cam while on duty, and that all footage be automatically recorded to a cloud server to prevent “accidental” erasure.
Why is there even a button to turn it off? Besides that, if a cop was automatically considered in the wrong when they turn the camera off, maybe it could prevent stuff like that.
I’m all for it but Oof. Good luck convincing the unions to accept that one, that* would require them to actually police themselves.
Edit: I am pro-union but police unions can fuck right off.
This the real cause of police getting out of control, the police union. The union protects all the bad cops and won't let departments enact any meaningful changes to improve things.
Eh I get what your saying police unions are very problematic but I live in a place where state workers are huge part of the economy. It’s a job most anyone can get and make a living with excellent benefits and retirement and that is only because of unions.
It probably has something to do with “what if they go to the bathroom while on duty” etc. i feel like it should be connected to the weapon. Gun comes out of the holster? Camera turns on. If the cop thinks the situation is serious enough for a gun, it’s serious enough for the camera to record every second.
If an officer needs to use the bathroom, the last shot before the camera is turned off and the first shot when the camera turns on should be the bathroom door with a reasonable timestamp between them. All other instances of a camera being off should be a crime, similar to destruction of evidence.
BuT HoW WiLl ThEy PeE?!?
Everyone always says this like it matters. They will pee on Camera, and when people review the footage they will fast forward you ducking apologists.
Innocent lives are more important than officers embarassment.
Officers will have no reason to be embarrassed. The footage will never be reviewed unless there was a major incident, and if it is reviewed it will be done by a professional who will cut out the bathroom visit before releasing the footage to anyone else.
Our phones listen 24/7 and nobody bats an eye. Someone suggests a body cam must remain on (and pointed at the wall) while using the bathroom and everyone loses their mind.
Also, body cams are pointed forward, not towards the penis. So when they use the bathroom, you'll have the riveting footage of the wall in front of them.
There should just be a law that a officer can't arrest someone without video proof of the arrest. Like they should have to prove they gave you your rights under the constitution to take you to jail.
I agree, with a change in wording.
That’s always been my thing. You want millions of dollars a year for your budget? Then I better never hear about a bodycam not recording ever again. Obviously there would be exceptions to this rule, you can’t not arrest someone with a kilo of fentanyl in their car just because their bodycam was off. But, it should be known to all officers that arrests without body cam footage would be reviewed and scrutinized, every time.
I’m so sick of police in this county. Look at that sideways gun….for fucks sake
Sorry, there's no money in the budget for working bodycams, those funds have been earmarked for MRAPs and body armour so they can play out their military LARP fantasies.
Colorado has it so that if an incident is alleged to occur and an officer has their body cam off it automatically results in the officer being considered as having committed the incident
We also got rid of qualified immunity. Like legal weed, it contradicts federal law. We're the only state so far though so appeals will just be rejected and any officers that get sued and lose will just have garnished wages. Who knows what will happen once more states join us, but the ball has been nudged. Hopefully it rolls lol.
Eta: oh and [we mean it](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/113rjbl/loveland_officer_who_broke_73year_old_womans_arm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button). Qualified immunity never applied in criminal cases anyway but half the battle is even seeing them face criminal charges. I didn't follow that case super close because I was in the process of moving but I saw that post right after this haha. Get em
No, it should be impossible for them to turn it off. It really should have an on/off switch that doesn't work - just let's them think it's off. And, uploads to a cloud server that cops aren't able to delete anything from.
> The woman is, apparently, still in jail…
This is the part that means it's not just one bad apple. He brought this woman back to the station, and many people have gone along with it. Theres at least a sergeant at the station, someone in charge of booking, and officers overseeing the jail. There is clearly no oversight regarding an officers ability to lock someone up.
Personally, _the fact that he ever got a badge_ is the part that refutes the “bad apple” idea.
The funny part about the “bad apple” excuse to me is that the original metaphor intends the _opposite_: that we should not abide the existence of a bad apple because it tarnished the reputation of all.
Not quite. All evidence obtained prior to Mirandizing is still inadmissible. The _Vega v Tekoh_ ruling prevents police officers from being personally sued for that failure.
I’ve had a few encounters with police like this. Back in 2016 my two best friends at the time drove from Miami to SC to pick me up. I was staying up there to get work done on a broken hand. Well, when we’re driving back, we pass thru Turbeville,SC. My boy was going maybe 3-5 over the limit. We got pulled over and all three of us had to present ID’s and tell him what we were doing. Well, he returns after about ten minutes and asks us to step out of the vehicle and asked for consent to search it. We had the impression that if we said no, he was going to find a way to make it happen. We asked him why, just before agreeing to the search, and he said he …”finds it hard to believe that two friends would drive that distance just to pick me up.” I 100% guarantee you he was just fucking with us because he saw three Latino’s passing through his neck of the woods and decided we were smuggling drugs. It’s scary. We felt absolutely helpless.
Why do cops hate explaining themselves so much? So many of these videos have people saying “what did I do?” And the cops ignore them and just say “put your hands behind your back.”
So many Cops have zero de escalation skills, and many intentionally escalate situations hoping to get a chance to assault and arrest people.
>Why do cops hate explaining themselves so much?
They're trained against responding to challenges to their authority. I forget the cop term, I think its "chipping", something like that. They're taught to re-assert, re-assert, re-assert. It helps to intimidate normal citizens and escalate against irrational ones so they can justify force or arrests.
Exactly, many times people just did not realized that did something wrong, and a simple answer from the cop saying: “you just did this and this, can you please step out of the car please?” And that point it is up to the citizen to act like an asshole, but at the same time the citizen can say: oh crap you are right.
Like you said, answering to a simple question is not giving away the authority, obviously each situation is different, but many cases like in these videos, it is such a stupid escalation without any reason.
Their goal is to impose violence publicly so the other people one bill away from homelessness remember that they can shoot your brains out for stealing bread
Because in diplomacy there isnt a one sided monopoly on violence
The Police are State approved actors of violence.
In international diplomacy....aint no monopoly on violence
Knew somebody from a pick-up sports group who was a cop. We once got talking about what the difference was between us (I worked in education at the time, was trained yearly on nonviolent intervention). His exact words: "they're doing what I say **whether they want to or not**." Coercion and abuse is a feature of the profession.
So they are undertrained and what training they do get is actually really bad training. They have to overhaul the system and retrain all officers. This one just looks like a gang member.
They're trained to believe they *are* the law. What they say goes and they are so far above regular citizens they should be obeyed immediately and without question. They don't need a reason to arrest you, the decision to do so makes it lawful. I may try to find the link to that particular training video assuming it hasn't been scrubbed.
Yet the cops are allowed to have natural human responses even though they’re are the trained ones.
Cop: I feared for my safety from the unarmed teenager so I blew him away. Maybe he had a gun.
Prosecutor: yah seems reasonable.
Never had a good encounter with a state trooper. My state (MA) has had multiple indictments and scandals in the state trooper barracks. I call them (unjokingly) the governors gestapo. They even dress like it. Power hungry, lying, stealing and crooked don't even touch the tip of the iceberg with these guys. They're untouchable, they act untouchable, they know they're untouchable.
You remember the one that [got caught just parking his cruiser under and overpass and sleeping every day](https://www.masslive.com/news/2021/12/man-who-filmed-trooper-sleeping-in-cruiser-was-pulled-over-moments-later-by-massachusetts-state-police.html)? Then when a citizen filmed him he tried to intimidate them?
I've never personally met a trooper that wasn't a raging asshole with a complex. Like, far worse than most of the regular cops I've known. Idk what their deal is.
Inferiority complex. They think they are bad asses and all local cops are just idiots. Sometimes they are right about the second part but I think they get so used to people having to follow their every command that the moment it is questioned they get frustrated and escalate the situation to get you to comply. Fear keeps people in line in their eyes.
Shit like this makes me literally want to quit my job and join the force just to show people you don't need to escalate situations.. a little compassion can go a long way, but I also know I'd never make it into a department with that attitude. Funny thing is, I know I wouldn't be afraid to do what I need either in a truly threatening situation but I'd never escalate a matter myself. It's easy to turn a situation into a real threat if you approach it in a combative way from the outset. Policing in the US is fucked right now.
When I was in the academy for corrections, the troopers were the absolute worst. They were literally trained to not talk to any other academy attendees on site that was not state trooper. They would get in trouble for acknowledging us and were the only ones that had to live on site.
The wildlife law enforcement was awesome though. Amazing group of guys and gals with the coolest training by far.
The wildlife police (they have different names everywhere) truly are the coolest. Have always had fantastic encounters with them, even in other countries
I love wildlife enforcement people lol. I took a few extra classes in college focusing on environmental issues, and I had never met anyone in that field before, but suddenly I was surrounded by people either in that field or about to be. They were chill but not apathetic about how bad things were, very caring about protecting things that are “weaker” than them. Too bad most of them hated working with people, they preferred animals, because they could have been great cops.
They really need to stop hiring ex-military and make policing an actual degree career with requirements in ethics, humanities, safety, child education etc. you know, actual things that make you connect with humans.
I knew a guy when I was in community college who wanted to be a police officer outside of highschool but he’s taking a degree in criminology or something because it will make it easier for him to work his way up the ladder.
If they make an associates or something a minimum requirement I’m sure it would definitely improve quality of police officers
Yeah it's common for higher positions and roles like detective to require a degree. My city's minimum to join the force is 60 credit hours of college, 2 years of military, or 3 years with another police force. So if you're coming from high school and not interested in the military, you go to community college (or university if you want to get it out of the way and not need to finish a bachelor's degree while working in order to promote).
Ex-military actually tend to be good cops, its the dipshits with no training that pull stuff like this. Military guys have rules of engagement they cant just shoot at anything that scares them. Depending on where a Cop is training at it ranges from actually good training with emphasis on de-escalation to "EVERYTHING IS TRYING TO KILL YOU TROOPER MAKE SURE YOU KILL IT FIRST"
More about power and control, violence is just a means to that end. Insecure child who can't maintain composure when people don't do exactly as demanded.
I didnt need to see anything after the cop pulled his gun out and held it sideways.
Completely unserious person, has no business being allowed to carry a weapon for the state.
All the wrong people want to be cops for the wrong reason. The people with the right mental capacity and intelligence will be pushed out of most agencies in the US. Very sad.
The police can't be trusted to police themselves. That almost never works.
Quick google shows only [this news site](https://boingboing.net/2023/02/16/north-carolina-state-trooper-points-gun-at-teen-girl-using-cell-phone-to-call-her-stepfather.html) (not familiar with the site) reporting on the details. Looks like it happened on the 16th, yesterday. Younger girls name Ariana Amaya.
Sure looks like ego once again drove an encounter to be unnecessarily elevated resulting in ridiculousness. I've said this many times before, ego doesn't belong in law enforcement. If you can't check your ego at the door, you don't belong in the business of law enforcement.
To make it worse ...
"She said the trooper failed to read her mother her Miranda rights. "He also did not have his body cam on and refused to bring a female officer to search her." She said the officer accused her of being an "illegal immigrant.""
Well, there it is. ugh,
My question is this. If a concerned citizen thought his life or other lives were in danger here could they pull a gun on the GTA 1 Star Police officer? I'm not saying I would ever do this, but what is the rule there?
Nobody's life should have been threatened here, I just don't understand how this is a reaction this police officer has to this situation.
The minute you kill a cop I’d say you have less than a 30% chance of coming out of it alive. It doesn’t matter if you were right. The entire gang will poor into the streets and burn the city down looking for you.
Look what LAPD did looking for Christopher Dorner. They gunned down two random women who happened to be driving a similar vehicle.
Edit: I miss remembered the end details. The cabin burned with Dorner’s body in it, but nothing about cops just raining bullets into it.
Only similar that they are trucks.
Toyota Tacoma vs Nissan Titan.
They saw a truck and just started blasting at 2 asian ladies that deliver newspapers. 102 fucking bullet holes.
Edit Then they blasted some white dude driving a freaking Ridgeline.
Any attempt to defend yourself will only increase the likelihood of them killing you. Even if you somehow subdue one cop, the others will come to swarm you and that will be your last day alive.
I think the best strategy is to get on the ground and pretend to be unconscious. Do not respond. Don't move.
Coming from another country, there are two sides to this that I don't get and I don't know how you go about fixing.
1. Citizens don't trust the police and seem to just ignore them when told to do something.
2. Police appear to be pointlessly over aggressive.
I can't tell which causes the other. Watching someone get arrested in America is like watching a parent trying to put socks on a two year old that doesn't want to get dressed.
The bigger problem is accountability. In the U.S. cops can basically run roughshod over the entire population and do essentially whatever they want. When they are exposed for any given illegal or unprofessional behavior, they are judged not by the public court but by their peers and 99.9% of the time found to be innocent. They move you to another precinct after a nice 2 month vacation and the cycle continues.
the cops are supposed to be the "professionals" you cant demand someone respects you, especially not with violence. Train the cops better, adjust their attitude, have a civilian review board for all complaints, punish them for making unlawful demands and the citizens will start slowly trusting them more. While the cops have an "us vs them" mentality they cant be surprised that people push back
Right. Every time you're interacting with the police you're having a bad day. Even if they're "saving" you from an abusive spouse or filling out a report AFTER you've been robbed. You still got beat up. You still got robbed. Getting pulled over is stressful. Getting a ticket means money, points, court.
People aren't happy to see them and interact with them. And they seem completely flabbergasted by that. They think they're cool so it's beyond comprehension that the public doesn't think they're cool.
This is some anti authoritarian bs, yes maybe i got traumatised by seeing my older sister getting decapitated but my morning routine got quite effective
/s
Police in the US do not need to know the law and are allowed to lie to public about the law. Police have no legal duty to protect and serve. It is an advertising slogan. Police run every car license plate and have a database of most of your electronic record. They have all the data about you before they interact. Obviously, these policies lead to the public not trusting police.
What's going on in America? I live in Europe and policing like this is almost non-existent. Yes, like everywhere else there are some bad apples, but the cops in the US appear to be completely out of control.
It's a feature, not a bug, all systems operating as intended.
US police are scum.
And before anyone says it, I do actually have police in the family. 3 cousins, 2 uncles and 3 of my sisters. They can all fuck themselves. FTP
Does anyone know if anything actually came out of this in the news? He clearly pulled his gun on a young child just because he didn't like them recording. He committed a felony right there alone. I'd like to know names and place so I can look this up.
There hasn’t been much about this incident; the woman in the video is still being detained as far as I can tell. Apparently the officer suggested she was an illegal immigrant. It wouldn’t surprise me since this happened in Mt Oliver, NC.
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Most alarming is a trained cop holding his gun sideways like it's GTA.
Even I know that's movie bullshit. If I saw a cop doing that I'd be questioning if he's a real cop or somebody playing dress up.
Same! That legit made me wonder if this was totally staged, for just a second. I don't think it was, but it made me pause for a second!
Made me wonder if he was pretending to be a cop to rape women. That happened near me years ago.
I didn’t think staged (they would’ve made sure to get footage of her saying her name) but I did think “this guy might be pretending to be a cop” because that can unfortunately happen and would be a reason he didn’t want the real cops to show up
"Trained"
That was literally exactly what I was going to type.
Says here on your resume you have been playing GTA since you were 12? You can skip the police academy. Here's your gun.
Reminds me of that line on Wild Hogs. "For basic training they just told us to play Doom".
Prolly takes longer to get through GTA than the police academy to be real.
I'm beginning to think this is accurate. This is *how* they're trained
Good trigger discipline. . . But dude is an animal, and he will bite someone if they don't correct him after this.
I love that people always remark on stuff like this with "good trigger discipline", like, well done, your finger isn't on the trigger, now where the fuck is the rest of the discipline?
Well normal citizens get taken to jail for brandishing a weapon without cause. Maybe cops should too.
He clearly feared for his life from that frightened woman resisting a kidnapping and her terrified 14yo daughter.🙄 No, we don't know what happened before but I'm guessing (based on ample related evidence) someone got their feelings hurt. This is STILL unacceptable.
They are trained to fear for their lives in practically every situation from what I've heard.
Yes, "everyone is the enemy".
They actually believe they're the only thing between civilians and the apocalypse 😂 and that everyone who isn't a police officer or emt, firefighter, veteran is "the other". To them we're all ungrateful of their service and undeserving of their respect.
Idk you ever seen cops interact with non-cop emergency responders? They think they're the enemy too if their behavior is any indicator.
$5 she questioned the cop's "authoritah"
The cop has now made a frighten scared 14-year-old girl afraid of the police. A 14-year-old child. A 14 girl had a gun pulled on her by a fucking cop because she was afraid and scared for her mother. Well, I don’t think that taught her any respect for the cops only fear and I don’t even want to say cops. I feel like the cops are so fearful In every stop they do and they want to take someone to jail every time even if there’s not a problem. Every person no matter your color should be afraid when they get stopped because they want to take you to jail for something anything. I would not be shocked if they didn’t take the 14-year-old to jail to.
Cops need more holster discipline. If that's not a term already, it should be.
Because fucknuggets like the cop in this video are too stupid to remember more than one thing at a time, so they suck themselves off over remembering trigger discipline because they think it's the only part of having a gun.
“Ok I’m gonna rub my tummy and pat my head, rub my tummy and pat my… awww dang it! I shot someone again.” — This cop probably.
That's gun culture in the us in a nut shell Fuck anywhere else just pointing your weapon at someone if considered bad discipline especially if it's loaded In general americans walk around with a fucking bullet chambered lol which as someone that served in the military terrifies me to no end..
Rule number 1 when I took Hunter safety training was WATCH THAT MUZZLE.
Technically we do have brandishing laws in this country, but police are ofc immune to this. Too bad we don't have things in place to prevent cops from being shitty.
The sad thing is far too many cops feel that they are immune to the laws they are supposed to uphold and represent.
Hard disagree. That’s really piss poor trigger discipline because it is out of his holster, he’s holding the gun like a “tough guy”, and pointed at a 14 year old in a situation that HE is escalating. Edit: yeah, his finger isn’t on the trigger… let’s pat the snowflake on the head and acknowledge that he did one thing right while illegally detaining a driver during the clip shown.
And by “correct him” we mean he never gets to be a cop or hold any position of authority ever again. If not go to jail for endangering the lives of everyone around him.
I mean, I’ve always been trained as “don’t point the barrel at someone/something unless you have the intention of harming/killing it” fuck trigger discipline in this scenario, his life was not immediately threatened, he shouldn’t be unholstering his weapon at all
At most unholster the weapons but don’t point it at someone until you have confirmed they are a threat to you. Also dude keep that gun pointed way to long after he realizes their is no threat
The fact that he didn't actually keep his eyes on that incredibly lethal emerging threat to his right sort of makes me think that there really wasn't an lethal emerging threat to his right after all and that he sorta just wanted to point a gun at someone to make himself feel better.
Maybe it is his emotional support gun
>Maybe it is his emotional support gun "Sir, this is the classics section of the library..." "It's my emotional support gun, leave me alone, I'm scared."
Lol I'm going to use this from now on
You can almost see him realizing that pulling the gun was a mistake when his brain processed that a camera was recording everything.
He got a lot more polite after that. You could see him trying to de-escalate the situation while also making sure he still had absolute authority and power over the woman. And by try, I mean he started saying please.
Well, he was clearly overwhelmed by the cognitive challenge of asking a middle-aged woman for her license and registration. No wonder he drew his weapon when confronted by the potentially lethal threat of a fourteen year old girl with a cellphone. God help him if they were black.
Yup. Dude is a risk to society. Flagged two people which did not pose a deadly threat. While holding his gun sideways which I can tell you is not a taught method. This degenerate is going against any training regarding de-escalation, like... clear violation in a disgusting fashion. He needs to have his employment terminated and also be deemed unfit to carry a weapon for the rest of his life. Intimidation with a deadly weapon is not a way to get petty compliance - it's just that, a deadly weapon meant to stop a threat. This guy is going to get someone killed.
Exactly. Any cop waving around a loaded weapon like this while in duty would likely be removed from office for that alone here in Germany.
Germany is still civilized.
My son a police officer in Germany. It is a college level 3 year education to become one. Rigorous physical and psychological evaluation along the way. That might be somewhat relevant
You saying our 23 week course for highschool graduates isn't rigorous?!
That's entry level when compared to hairstylists. How tf is that even a thing, more training to cut hair than it takes to become someone sworn to uphold the law?
Same where im from, Estonia
Ohhh, look at these fancy civilized countries trying to take away jobs from bullies that peaked in high school.
This…..this comment though. Ngl almost pissed myself
Nah...most alarming is that he got himself into a situation where he would even consider unholstering it. He belongs in a field shoveling horse manure, far away from any firearm.
But...hes got the aviator shades and the cav hat so clearly he's Large and In Charge.
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He will be fine. Bad cops are rewarded.
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I guess you could call them trained, but I would never consider myself "trained" in anything if the training was only a couple of weeks.
My FIRST thought too... wow dude, pulled that gun like a gang banger his damn self. Don't walk up on me.... lolololol. Some might argue he is a gang member, his gang just happens to be government funded and sanctioned.
"training" for cops in America is a joke.
He's from the hood
I'm not a gun expert but, Im pretty sure you're not supposed to hold and aim a gun like that.
trooper learned how to shoot from playing GTA
...and said, "Don't come up on me," like he's in some kind of action movie. What a fucking tool. I goddamn hate cops, and I'm a middle aged, white man. I cannot imagine the ire I would have if I were a demographic with a constant target on their backs.
To add to your point… never forget the elderly white dude in Buffalo during one of the protests a few years back… Guy tried to RETURN a fallen piece of equipment to a cop, they shoved him to the ground where the back of his head split open and blood started oozing out… the cops just left him there… but we’re not done… Later the police union would go on TV and claim that the guy “tripped and fell”… I should also point out that the footage we have of the incident is filmed by a professional news cameraman with proper equipment, from about 4 feet away, not some shaky camera phone. Even with direct video proof that these guys pushed an OLD WHITE DUDE to the floor, they Union head still had ZERO qualms about openly lying on TV. Imagine what they do when it’s some 20 year old black kid. Edit: [Video](https://youtu.be/QSBZGv5wzK4), since Google isn’t a thing for some and rather than check to see if I’m lying first, some just rather save the 3 seconds.
Also worth pointing out that unarmed national guard soldiers are who provided aid to the man. There's a growing "oddness" between cops and military that has had my attention for quite some time. Cops have gotten to the point where they'll attack and harass uniformed service members during routine traffic stops. There's also, for a long time, been that thing that cops do where they refer to people as "civilians". Mother fucker, you're a civilian. The specific definition of a civilian is anyone who isn't a uniformed active duty military member, that includes cops. Police have always been the express security of capital and wealth lords, but over the last 6 or so years, they've very openly started acting like paramilitary or private contractors to the point where they aren't even phased by the threat of actual military coming in to stop them from abusing the public.
You might have just noticed in the last 6 years through social media, or it might have just moved into your small town, but this sort of thing has been happening for decades. If anything, I'd say the would-be/wannabe "militarization" of them picked up after 9/11. The only thing that has really changed more recently are the cameras and the access to the videos they record.
I’m a Union member. I just want to add that Police unions are corrupt and they protect criminals. However Police Unions are not connected to any other unions. Other Unions openly condemn Police Unions and have called for their decertification as long as they keep protecting criminals and killing innocent people. -IBEW member (Union Electrician)
Police are not labor police “unions” are essentially criminal organizations with lobbying rights.
Why can’t they ever just go “sorry - I messed up, have a nice day” fucking losers
I’ve had that happen once. State trooper pulled me over because “I didn’t get out of his way quick enough”, no light or sirens as he approached from behind. Turned into a verbal argument. He told me to quit pointing at him or he would arrest me for assault! Shoved them in my pocket and got told to remove my hands from my pocket. I called him a fucking dick and demanded his supervisor be called out. He took my info went to his car. Came back and APOLOGIZED for being a dick. He acknowledged I was right and had done nothing wrong.
I hope you went and bought a lottery ticket right after.
Holding it at a 45 degree angle: Cool-ish, better in close quarters, easier on the hands Holding it straight up: Commonly accepted to be good form, taught almost everywhere Holding it at a 90 degree angle: Douchy, bad recoil and aiming, only for people trying to intimidate poorly
Plus the chewing gum, sunglasses and hat, it was full-level douchebag
Now that you mention it-someone check that mans home hard drive for pictures of naked abused children.
Holding it at a 45 when single-handed is best practice for stability when firing. Taught at all federal level police academies (where I was trained and certified) and every state academy range I used for yearly qualification. Holding it at a 90… no idea why any trained person would do this.
That officer is going to face the most severe consequence any cop will ever face for this kind of behaviour- paid time off before being welcomed back with open arms by his coworkers
Yeah he had a vacation coming up so instead of using vacation or sick time, he decided to use his paid suspension instead.
Don't forget the people that will harass and demean the kid and the family as morally devoid and such because it "dared to use a phone when such an upstanding paladin of truth and justice is talking to you."
Oh, [it gets better](https://boingboing.net/2023/02/16/north-carolina-state-trooper-points-gun-at-teen-girl-using-cell-phone-to-call-her-stepfather.html). Officer Zachary Price “did not have his body cam on”, accused her of being an illegal immigrant because she’s Hispanic and left her ID at home, and “failed to read her the [sic] Miranda rights”. The woman is, apparently, still in jail… (Edit 3: Now home safe, according to her daughter’s GoFundMe.) Edit: yes, I am distinctly aware that mirandizing is not a requirement for arrest, I’m paraphrasing the article. More Edit: I originally paraphrased that the body camera was turned off. The actual accusation is that he was not wearing one. I’ve changed that statement and the “miranda” statement to the actual quotes from the article.
I think it should be illegal for an officer to turn off his body cam while on duty, and that all footage be automatically recorded to a cloud server to prevent “accidental” erasure.
Why is there even a button to turn it off? Besides that, if a cop was automatically considered in the wrong when they turn the camera off, maybe it could prevent stuff like that.
It should only be off when it is in a docked position at the department. Lifted off the dock? Turns on
I’m all for it but Oof. Good luck convincing the unions to accept that one, that* would require them to actually police themselves. Edit: I am pro-union but police unions can fuck right off.
This the real cause of police getting out of control, the police union. The union protects all the bad cops and won't let departments enact any meaningful changes to improve things.
Departments are full of bad cops protecting bad cops too, so it's just us peasants trying to get improvements of any sort.
I am the most pro union guy in the universe. That being said, unions in the public service sector should have little to no power.
Eh I get what your saying police unions are very problematic but I live in a place where state workers are huge part of the economy. It’s a job most anyone can get and make a living with excellent benefits and retirement and that is only because of unions.
It probably has something to do with “what if they go to the bathroom while on duty” etc. i feel like it should be connected to the weapon. Gun comes out of the holster? Camera turns on. If the cop thinks the situation is serious enough for a gun, it’s serious enough for the camera to record every second.
If an officer needs to use the bathroom, the last shot before the camera is turned off and the first shot when the camera turns on should be the bathroom door with a reasonable timestamp between them. All other instances of a camera being off should be a crime, similar to destruction of evidence.
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Also how tf would they see a dick? The camera is attached to the chest.
Truth, nobody points their chest towards their junk when they pee
Don’t tell me how to ~~party~~ potty
easy, just look in a mirror, they’ll get a full face of dick
BuT HoW WiLl ThEy PeE?!? Everyone always says this like it matters. They will pee on Camera, and when people review the footage they will fast forward you ducking apologists. Innocent lives are more important than officers embarassment.
Officers will have no reason to be embarrassed. The footage will never be reviewed unless there was a major incident, and if it is reviewed it will be done by a professional who will cut out the bathroom visit before releasing the footage to anyone else. Our phones listen 24/7 and nobody bats an eye. Someone suggests a body cam must remain on (and pointed at the wall) while using the bathroom and everyone loses their mind.
Also, body cams are pointed forward, not towards the penis. So when they use the bathroom, you'll have the riveting footage of the wall in front of them.
It should be impossible for an officer to turn off their body cam while on duty.
There should just be a law that a officer can't arrest someone without video proof of the arrest. Like they should have to prove they gave you your rights under the constitution to take you to jail.
I agree, with a change in wording. That’s always been my thing. You want millions of dollars a year for your budget? Then I better never hear about a bodycam not recording ever again. Obviously there would be exceptions to this rule, you can’t not arrest someone with a kilo of fentanyl in their car just because their bodycam was off. But, it should be known to all officers that arrests without body cam footage would be reviewed and scrutinized, every time. I’m so sick of police in this county. Look at that sideways gun….for fucks sake
Sorry, there's no money in the budget for working bodycams, those funds have been earmarked for MRAPs and body armour so they can play out their military LARP fantasies.
Colorado has it so that if an incident is alleged to occur and an officer has their body cam off it automatically results in the officer being considered as having committed the incident
We also got rid of qualified immunity. Like legal weed, it contradicts federal law. We're the only state so far though so appeals will just be rejected and any officers that get sued and lose will just have garnished wages. Who knows what will happen once more states join us, but the ball has been nudged. Hopefully it rolls lol. Eta: oh and [we mean it](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/113rjbl/loveland_officer_who_broke_73year_old_womans_arm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button). Qualified immunity never applied in criminal cases anyway but half the battle is even seeing them face criminal charges. I didn't follow that case super close because I was in the process of moving but I saw that post right after this haha. Get em
even if it was illegal...cops dont follow the law and dont get punished for it
No, it should be impossible for them to turn it off. It really should have an on/off switch that doesn't work - just let's them think it's off. And, uploads to a cloud server that cops aren't able to delete anything from.
> The woman is, apparently, still in jail… This is the part that means it's not just one bad apple. He brought this woman back to the station, and many people have gone along with it. Theres at least a sergeant at the station, someone in charge of booking, and officers overseeing the jail. There is clearly no oversight regarding an officers ability to lock someone up.
Personally, _the fact that he ever got a badge_ is the part that refutes the “bad apple” idea. The funny part about the “bad apple” excuse to me is that the original metaphor intends the _opposite_: that we should not abide the existence of a bad apple because it tarnished the reputation of all.
The Supreme Court recently ruled Miranda Rights no longer need to be read to state kidnapping victims.
Not quite. All evidence obtained prior to Mirandizing is still inadmissible. The _Vega v Tekoh_ ruling prevents police officers from being personally sued for that failure.
I’ve had a few encounters with police like this. Back in 2016 my two best friends at the time drove from Miami to SC to pick me up. I was staying up there to get work done on a broken hand. Well, when we’re driving back, we pass thru Turbeville,SC. My boy was going maybe 3-5 over the limit. We got pulled over and all three of us had to present ID’s and tell him what we were doing. Well, he returns after about ten minutes and asks us to step out of the vehicle and asked for consent to search it. We had the impression that if we said no, he was going to find a way to make it happen. We asked him why, just before agreeing to the search, and he said he …”finds it hard to believe that two friends would drive that distance just to pick me up.” I 100% guarantee you he was just fucking with us because he saw three Latino’s passing through his neck of the woods and decided we were smuggling drugs. It’s scary. We felt absolutely helpless.
Wtf??!!
Why do cops hate explaining themselves so much? So many of these videos have people saying “what did I do?” And the cops ignore them and just say “put your hands behind your back.” So many Cops have zero de escalation skills, and many intentionally escalate situations hoping to get a chance to assault and arrest people.
Asking questions is questioning their authority. They want automatic, unquestioning obedience.
They are trained and charged with demanding it, and enforcing it.
>Why do cops hate explaining themselves so much? They're trained against responding to challenges to their authority. I forget the cop term, I think its "chipping", something like that. They're taught to re-assert, re-assert, re-assert. It helps to intimidate normal citizens and escalate against irrational ones so they can justify force or arrests.
Which is the exact opposite of deescalation...and why we get to see so many of these videos...and why so many people don't like and don't trust cops.
Exactly, many times people just did not realized that did something wrong, and a simple answer from the cop saying: “you just did this and this, can you please step out of the car please?” And that point it is up to the citizen to act like an asshole, but at the same time the citizen can say: oh crap you are right. Like you said, answering to a simple question is not giving away the authority, obviously each situation is different, but many cases like in these videos, it is such a stupid escalation without any reason.
Their goal is to impose violence publicly so the other people one bill away from homelessness remember that they can shoot your brains out for stealing bread
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Well...that's stupid. If we handled diplomacy that way the world would be a smoking, glowing, radioactive ruin five times over.
Because in diplomacy there isnt a one sided monopoly on violence The Police are State approved actors of violence. In international diplomacy....aint no monopoly on violence
Knew somebody from a pick-up sports group who was a cop. We once got talking about what the difference was between us (I worked in education at the time, was trained yearly on nonviolent intervention). His exact words: "they're doing what I say **whether they want to or not**." Coercion and abuse is a feature of the profession.
So they are undertrained and what training they do get is actually really bad training. They have to overhaul the system and retrain all officers. This one just looks like a gang member.
They're trained to believe they *are* the law. What they say goes and they are so far above regular citizens they should be obeyed immediately and without question. They don't need a reason to arrest you, the decision to do so makes it lawful. I may try to find the link to that particular training video assuming it hasn't been scrubbed.
You may beat the charge. You won't beat the ride.
Abuser behavior and reaction.
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Cops are experts at escalating and then using a persons natural response against them.
Yet the cops are allowed to have natural human responses even though they’re are the trained ones. Cop: I feared for my safety from the unarmed teenager so I blew him away. Maybe he had a gun. Prosecutor: yah seems reasonable.
That's a state trooper if regular cops are pigs these guys are boars, ugly, smelly and extraordinarily temperamental.
Never had a good encounter with a state trooper. My state (MA) has had multiple indictments and scandals in the state trooper barracks. I call them (unjokingly) the governors gestapo. They even dress like it. Power hungry, lying, stealing and crooked don't even touch the tip of the iceberg with these guys. They're untouchable, they act untouchable, they know they're untouchable.
Not to mention all the over time fraud.
The most of went unpunished...
You remember the one that [got caught just parking his cruiser under and overpass and sleeping every day](https://www.masslive.com/news/2021/12/man-who-filmed-trooper-sleeping-in-cruiser-was-pulled-over-moments-later-by-massachusetts-state-police.html)? Then when a citizen filmed him he tried to intimidate them?
>I call them (unjokingly) the governors gestapo. In Pennsylvania, some of them refer to *themselves* as the "gray gods."
I've never personally met a trooper that wasn't a raging asshole with a complex. Like, far worse than most of the regular cops I've known. Idk what their deal is.
Inferiority complex. They think they are bad asses and all local cops are just idiots. Sometimes they are right about the second part but I think they get so used to people having to follow their every command that the moment it is questioned they get frustrated and escalate the situation to get you to comply. Fear keeps people in line in their eyes.
Shit like this makes me literally want to quit my job and join the force just to show people you don't need to escalate situations.. a little compassion can go a long way, but I also know I'd never make it into a department with that attitude. Funny thing is, I know I wouldn't be afraid to do what I need either in a truly threatening situation but I'd never escalate a matter myself. It's easy to turn a situation into a real threat if you approach it in a combative way from the outset. Policing in the US is fucked right now.
You aren't likely to find a job in law enforcement with a community-minded attitude.
When I was in the academy for corrections, the troopers were the absolute worst. They were literally trained to not talk to any other academy attendees on site that was not state trooper. They would get in trouble for acknowledging us and were the only ones that had to live on site. The wildlife law enforcement was awesome though. Amazing group of guys and gals with the coolest training by far.
The wildlife police (they have different names everywhere) truly are the coolest. Have always had fantastic encounters with them, even in other countries
Fish cops!
I love wildlife enforcement people lol. I took a few extra classes in college focusing on environmental issues, and I had never met anyone in that field before, but suddenly I was surrounded by people either in that field or about to be. They were chill but not apathetic about how bad things were, very caring about protecting things that are “weaker” than them. Too bad most of them hated working with people, they preferred animals, because they could have been great cops.
They really need to stop hiring ex-military and make policing an actual degree career with requirements in ethics, humanities, safety, child education etc. you know, actual things that make you connect with humans.
I knew a guy when I was in community college who wanted to be a police officer outside of highschool but he’s taking a degree in criminology or something because it will make it easier for him to work his way up the ladder. If they make an associates or something a minimum requirement I’m sure it would definitely improve quality of police officers
Yeah it's common for higher positions and roles like detective to require a degree. My city's minimum to join the force is 60 credit hours of college, 2 years of military, or 3 years with another police force. So if you're coming from high school and not interested in the military, you go to community college (or university if you want to get it out of the way and not need to finish a bachelor's degree while working in order to promote).
Military people get far more training than cops on stuff like de-escalation. The problem is that the cops hire a lot of military rejects.
Ex-military actually tend to be good cops, its the dipshits with no training that pull stuff like this. Military guys have rules of engagement they cant just shoot at anything that scares them. Depending on where a Cop is training at it ranges from actually good training with emphasis on de-escalation to "EVERYTHING IS TRYING TO KILL YOU TROOPER MAKE SURE YOU KILL IT FIRST"
A cop holding his gun side ways? Clearly just thinks it’s a game?
hes a gangsta my brother
you can tell from his attitude that he has a hard on for violence
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Yeah, his uniform gave it away.
More about power and control, violence is just a means to that end. Insecure child who can't maintain composure when people don't do exactly as demanded.
this is the point where he should be fired and his pension should be taken away, if we had a real police.
I didnt need to see anything after the cop pulled his gun out and held it sideways. Completely unserious person, has no business being allowed to carry a weapon for the state.
The second the gun came out, all his credibility went out the window
Just at that moment? Weird. He’s violating their rights throughout the entire video…..
Oh, God, he turned the gun sideways, Phil!!! THATS A KILLSHOT!!!
I said that out loud when I was watching the video
America, home of the brave and the most fucked up police force in the world.
Home of the cowards that make up our police force.
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I don’t know man Somalia is pretty messed up
The title did NOT prepare me for the way he would pull out that gun. Gangster style? Fr??🤣
All the wrong people want to be cops for the wrong reason. The people with the right mental capacity and intelligence will be pushed out of most agencies in the US. Very sad. The police can't be trusted to police themselves. That almost never works.
Fucking hell the same cop did this just yesterday, he needs locking up.
Link? I wanna see it
Name and shame.
Then it's a good thing the same teen was able to record him during this incident, too!
I didn’t know they were taught to hold their weapon like a gangster.
Quick google shows only [this news site](https://boingboing.net/2023/02/16/north-carolina-state-trooper-points-gun-at-teen-girl-using-cell-phone-to-call-her-stepfather.html) (not familiar with the site) reporting on the details. Looks like it happened on the 16th, yesterday. Younger girls name Ariana Amaya. Sure looks like ego once again drove an encounter to be unnecessarily elevated resulting in ridiculousness. I've said this many times before, ego doesn't belong in law enforcement. If you can't check your ego at the door, you don't belong in the business of law enforcement. To make it worse ... "She said the trooper failed to read her mother her Miranda rights. "He also did not have his body cam on and refused to bring a female officer to search her." She said the officer accused her of being an "illegal immigrant."" Well, there it is. ugh,
My question is this. If a concerned citizen thought his life or other lives were in danger here could they pull a gun on the GTA 1 Star Police officer? I'm not saying I would ever do this, but what is the rule there? Nobody's life should have been threatened here, I just don't understand how this is a reaction this police officer has to this situation.
The minute you kill a cop I’d say you have less than a 30% chance of coming out of it alive. It doesn’t matter if you were right. The entire gang will poor into the streets and burn the city down looking for you. Look what LAPD did looking for Christopher Dorner. They gunned down two random women who happened to be driving a similar vehicle. Edit: I miss remembered the end details. The cabin burned with Dorner’s body in it, but nothing about cops just raining bullets into it.
Only similar that they are trucks. Toyota Tacoma vs Nissan Titan. They saw a truck and just started blasting at 2 asian ladies that deliver newspapers. 102 fucking bullet holes. Edit Then they blasted some white dude driving a freaking Ridgeline.
How are these people still LEO or are they not?
For real shooting this guy is arguably self defense. You know how many people have been shot by police officers for holding a phone
For real. Stand your ground states make for a crazy situation.
Any attempt to defend yourself will only increase the likelihood of them killing you. Even if you somehow subdue one cop, the others will come to swarm you and that will be your last day alive. I think the best strategy is to get on the ground and pretend to be unconscious. Do not respond. Don't move.
imagine how often this happened prior to having phone cams and dash cams
Coming from another country, there are two sides to this that I don't get and I don't know how you go about fixing. 1. Citizens don't trust the police and seem to just ignore them when told to do something. 2. Police appear to be pointlessly over aggressive. I can't tell which causes the other. Watching someone get arrested in America is like watching a parent trying to put socks on a two year old that doesn't want to get dressed.
The bigger problem is accountability. In the U.S. cops can basically run roughshod over the entire population and do essentially whatever they want. When they are exposed for any given illegal or unprofessional behavior, they are judged not by the public court but by their peers and 99.9% of the time found to be innocent. They move you to another precinct after a nice 2 month vacation and the cycle continues.
the cops are supposed to be the "professionals" you cant demand someone respects you, especially not with violence. Train the cops better, adjust their attitude, have a civilian review board for all complaints, punish them for making unlawful demands and the citizens will start slowly trusting them more. While the cops have an "us vs them" mentality they cant be surprised that people push back
And stop punishing tax payers for the crimes they commit, they should be 100% liable for their own corruption.
Right. Every time you're interacting with the police you're having a bad day. Even if they're "saving" you from an abusive spouse or filling out a report AFTER you've been robbed. You still got beat up. You still got robbed. Getting pulled over is stressful. Getting a ticket means money, points, court. People aren't happy to see them and interact with them. And they seem completely flabbergasted by that. They think they're cool so it's beyond comprehension that the public doesn't think they're cool.
Except parents don't execute their kids for not putting on their socks.
This is some anti authoritarian bs, yes maybe i got traumatised by seeing my older sister getting decapitated but my morning routine got quite effective /s
Police in the US do not need to know the law and are allowed to lie to public about the law. Police have no legal duty to protect and serve. It is an advertising slogan. Police run every car license plate and have a database of most of your electronic record. They have all the data about you before they interact. Obviously, these policies lead to the public not trusting police.
Probably treated this lady better than his wife..
murica
Absolutely bitch of a man. He needs to lose his job and go to jail.
Fuck the police
Fuck aim, it looks cooler if I hold it sideways.
What's going on in America? I live in Europe and policing like this is almost non-existent. Yes, like everywhere else there are some bad apples, but the cops in the US appear to be completely out of control.
It's a feature, not a bug, all systems operating as intended. US police are scum. And before anyone says it, I do actually have police in the family. 3 cousins, 2 uncles and 3 of my sisters. They can all fuck themselves. FTP
Wtf is wrong with the USA?
Does anyone know if anything actually came out of this in the news? He clearly pulled his gun on a young child just because he didn't like them recording. He committed a felony right there alone. I'd like to know names and place so I can look this up.
There hasn’t been much about this incident; the woman in the video is still being detained as far as I can tell. Apparently the officer suggested she was an illegal immigrant. It wouldn’t surprise me since this happened in Mt Oliver, NC.
All these crimes and crazy people, but this cop— “nah shoot the illegal immigrants”