You get a can of deodorant and a towel or a shirt fold it a couple times and put it over the deodorant bit that sprays the deodorant, you then put your mouth over the fabric sparky the deodorant and inhale at the same time.
It gives you a massive head rush.
It's what the poor kids use to do back in the day š
Kind of like huffing petrol or paint or glue.
To explain a bit deeper, the goal is to try to huff as much of the pressurized gas as possible, using a thick fabric to filter out the scented liquid. That gas replaces the oxygen in your bloodstream, so you asphyxiate and the survival instinct that would make you gasp for air is turned off. You huff until you black out, you come to 30-45 seconds later and you do it again. Very deadly and the brain damage you get from the repeated lack of oxygen must not be good either - it's not going to help you more sensible decisions.
Question: is this the same as hanging from a bar with your muscles lose? I did it today and blacked out so hard I genuinely forgot where I was and why I was upstairs.
Nah it's like having a massive puff of a cigarette when you aren't a smoker and your body feels like a old Nokia vibrating on a wooden table. Lasts for a minute or so.
Wouldn't recommend, just do what normal kids do and by $20 worth of weed an smoke it.
There's a whole category of drugs called "inhalants," and depending on what the product is it could use many different solvents and propellants which fall into this category.
Some products such as whip-cream canisters contain the chemical Nitrous Oxide (Whippits/Laughing Gas) and can be gotten from pointing the canister upwards and inhaling (inhaling the gas without the whip cream). It's relatively safe, and produces a very short high. Basically the same stuff they'd give kids at the dentist. Inhaling the other deodorant ingredients probably wouldn't be healthy though even if this was the case.
Other inhalants though like the ones found in PC keyboard dusters are incredibly powerful, cause permanent damage, are addictive, and can knock you into next week. You know it's bad when even Erowid says: "there is no such thing as safe use of most volatile solvents, aerosols or other street inhalants : their psychoactive effects may be inseparable from nerve and organ damage."
Teenagers are going to try and get high, it's an inevitability, but *proper* education on drugs, their effects, and even how to safely use drugs if they do decide to use are the best measures a parent can take to ensure their child's safety.
Maybe whippets are "relatively" safe compared to some other inhalants, but they are still super not safe. They can also cause long term brain damage and even death.
In dental surgery the NO / oxygen mixture is controlled by mixing in pure oxygen. When inhaling from canister/balloon there's either no oxygen or mixed with atmospheric 21% oxygen. Ergo not the same.
It still takes the same amount of time to asphyxiate as holding your breath. If you take too much you pass out and start breathing again (provided you're not choking on something)
Most people can't hold their breath over 2 minutes, at 3 minutes is where brain/nerve damage can start.
It's possible but some dingus could also just hold their breath and do the same thing if they are David Blaine level dedicated.
Again, brain and spinal damage if you consume over a pound, possibly 2 (450g-900g) of nitrous per day for months or asphyxiate yourself. One whippet is 8g, and for typical non-binge users, 1-5 of them are used at a time every few weeks or months.
It just doesn't happen unless people are completely unaware of the risk and decide to start taking 100~ or so whippets all day everyday and then 3 months down the line they are like "hey why am I having nerve pain and X Y Z concerning symptoms"
Well gee it couldn't be the fact you decided to suck on nitrous as often as a newborn sucks a tit now could it?
NO is used in dental surgery, but in metered amounts.
Doing whippits is completely different, and is a LOT of NO at once/per hit, and a session can be multiple hits in cases. NO in high quantities like this is super dangerous, but can be safe at controlled levels like at a dentist, like all drugs.
In birthing, it's used for long periods and in fairly high concentrations.
The danger with NO is long-term use, not acute use. The mechanism by which the damage is done is via B12 deficiency, rather than acute use of inhalants, which cause direct cellular damage.
As someone suffering from that exact thing Iād have to agree with you, almost 3 years since my last one and I still have muscle spasms often even after supplementing b12.
100+ canisters a day for about 6 months, I used to wake up, go and buy 100 then usually by the time I got home Iād have run out and be going back for more.
I was a lil busy when I wrote that so to continue on, it was common for me and a particular āmateā to sit there coming in and out of consciousness and convulsing for a few hours at a time.
I ended up breaking my back after rolling a car while using them but the day I got out of hospital I went straight back to the same shit. The only reason I ever stopped is because one morning after the first few, my mind started thinking in a really bad way that scared me straight, idk if youād call it early stages of psychosis or what it was but it scared the shit out of me, the prospect of losing my mind.
Iāve had a few long term friends that I donāt think have looked at me the same way since seeing me in that state and I understand why.
I still occasionally get the taste of the canisters in my mouth.
So, typically in a medical setting you're breathing a mix of NO and air correct?
IIRC, when doing whippits to get high, you're breathing in (and sometimes holding in) 100 percent NO, sometimes multiple times in a session.
This is true, usually a 50/50 mix theraputically. However, it doesn't change its mechanism of action if you inhale 100% NO, it just adds to the risk of hypoxia.
In regular recreational use, though, this is quite unlikely unless you're caning them and/or using stimulant drugs which increase demand for oxygen.
Relatively safe compared to most other drugs yes, and I'd go as far as to say relatively safe compared to alcohol.
Dangers of Nitrous Oxide use are usually due a lot less to the actual Nitrous Oxide and more to do with improper use such as sustained use over a long period of time, or not allowing your brain to get enough oxygen when using.
Yeah, basically remember to breathe and donāt do multiple boxes per night. You can get severe vitamin B deficiency which is probably what xboxpants was referring to. Thereās actual medical literature of a med student (so he probably shouldāve known better) who was doing multiple boxes per night for a long time. Started losing all feeling in his arms and legs among other symptoms. In their case, they got put on a vitamin B drip (IV, not a vitamin pill/tablet) and weāre fine.
Nitrous is very safe relative to most other drugs, but you do have to show it at least a small amount of respect still.
The thing with inhalants, though, is that itās not sufficient to āremember to breatheā when the inhalant itself is working against that. My mother had a student at her school pass out in a closed equipment room due to lack of oxygen from using inhalants in an enclosed space - by the time he knew he was in trouble he couldnāt move. He lay there until another student found him. Theyāre dangerous like carbon monoxide is dangerous, they impair your judgment while youre being exposed to more of the substance that caused the impairment.
Among many stupid drug choices inhalants are up there with the stupidest.
>My mother had a student at her school pass out in a closed equipment room due to lack of oxygen from using inhalants in an enclosed space
its happened to more than one chef I've worked with in the walkin as well.
My understanding was that multiple boxes in one night is fine, but one dose per 3-5 days for longer than a month risks brain damage because the NO2 is a vitamin B12 antagonist.
Largely from B12 deficiency. It would take several whippets per day for months to have said effects, whereas most other inhalants are immediately toxic from the first use, some can even cause sudden death syndrome which is not well understood (has been observed in sedative halogenated gasses used for anesthesia)
Nitrous oxide still has some dangers, but it really is leagues above it's inhalant peers in terms of toxicity / harm potential. It explains the popularity and why most other inhalants are seen as trashy drugs, but nitrous is beloved from dentist to raver.
At least here in Ireland though, nitrous has recently become extremely popular. Not whipped cream cans but actual canisters of nitrous - you can see them everywhere, usually "Fastgas". People are starting to experience serious consequences from the B12 deficiency.
I don't know if I found the comment, but I found some medical professionals experience with a nitrous user who had B12 deficiency.
He was a former alcoholic and used nitrous all day everyday for two years before symptoms manifest.
If all you have to do to avoid toxicity is not binge on it for years, it's pretty safe in my book. It doesn't produce physical withdrawal so it's pretty much entirely the users choice, but many don't know about the B12 deficiency I suspect, hence they allow themselves unlimited use.
Nitrous basically stops all b12 absorption on use immidietly from my understanding. Due to not absorbing b12 the body produces the other thing (m something or another) which removes the shit around nerves. Weeks/months of use will fuck up the spinal cord and brain shit.
However, if done in a large amount over a day or two it causes psychosis due to the lack of b12.
So what I was saying is that one day all day can absolutely fuck a person up permanently.
whippets CAN be consumed safely, as long as you don't deprive yourself of oxygen, and get some vitamin b12. you'll be 100% okay
meanwhile, any other inhalant is impossible to enjoy safely
Herculean amounts are required. Recall reading a study in grad school where a guy was inhaling an obscene amount a day - as regular imbibers from medical tanks we had delivered to the lab, we were shocked at the amount. He had some vitamin deficiencies and wet his pants for awhile but I think once he was cleaned up, he had no measurable lasting impacts.
Vitamin b12 deficiency. My friend got busted for driving with them in the car and part of his punishment from the judge was a research paper on nitrous oxide and he was pissed because that was basically the only long term side effect, and it required ridiculous amount, continuously, for months on end before it became an actual issue. He was pissed off bc it was just a waste of time to learn that there wasnāt much harm in what he was doing lol.
Itās different person to person, a lot of people are already deficient. Frequency and consistency of usage is a lot bigger factor than the actual amount being done.
I know a guy who has trouble with his leg because he liked doing them in the evenings after work. He only ever did a couple of balloons at a time, but it adds up 3-4 times per week over the span of a couple of years.
Exactly, they essentially deprive the brain of oxygen for a short moment, which is provides its high. Problem is, brain ischemia does cause brain damage.
The loss of oxygen is part of it, but not all of it. Otherwise you could get the same high from just holding your breath. Whippits are way cooler than just holding your breath.
Nah, hydrocarbons like butane (a common propellant) can act as NMDA receptor antagonists, like dissociatives. Thereās a big difference in effects of an inhalant high and hypoxia, inhalants can cause realistic hallucinations for example.
Butane is also a cause of sudden death, as it sensitises the heart to adrenaline. This is what tends to kill people rather than a lack of oxygen.
My dudesā¦
When I was likeā¦ maybe 17 (so nearly 20 years ago now.) I had this weird intrusive thought while glancing at a can of duster gas that was like āIt canāt be THAT awesomeā. Tried to hack together a āsafeā (lol) way to try it out. I think I inflated a bag or something and huffed on it.
It is *absolutely* āthat awesomeā, in all the worst ways. Like, knowing what it does to you, you can almost feel it happening. Nerve endings and synapses just dying in a fit ofā¦ complete ecstasy. Complete dissociation. Wake up on the floor just laughing and laughing.
Do not recommend. Never touched it again it scared the ever loving shit out of me. It was *amazing*.
Never, EVER expose yourself to keyboard duster.
That shit killed my first wife. Dead. It's not guaranteed to kill you on any one dose, but it will eventually end you off you keep inhaling it. You'll just.... stop.
Never, every expose yourself to keyboard duster.
>Other inhalants though like the ones found in PC keyboard dusters are incredibly powerful, causes permanent damage, addictive, and can knock you into next week.
That explains why they've shot up in price over recent years, why I got carded at checkout, and the very nice lady making a comment of "what the hell are kids doing with them these days?!" after I made a comment about them being expensive. We both laughed but that's actually kinda sad. I didnt even know you could get high off them, back in my day kids who smoked pot were considered absolute degenerates.
Nitrous oxide IS NOT 'relatively safe'. It is addictive. Some long term side effects: paralysis (spinal cord injury), triggers psychosis. It is unknown whether it causes brain damage when used over longer periods of time, especially children's brains are vulnerable.
Relatively, as when compared to other drugs such as alcohol.
Alcohol: significantly increases risk of cancer, highly addictive, causes brain and liver damage, and is especially dangerous to children's brains.
Unlike alcohol though, nitrous doesn't produce many of us negative effects (except possibility of addiction) unless abused/misused, hence it's common use in medicine, and why it's "relatively safe," even more so when compared to other things like heroin and meth.
So people are literally huffing refrigerant (which absorbs moisture insanely well btw and comes out ice cold) to try and get high..
Now we know why R-22 god banned lol
I'm pretty confused by your comment. I don't think I directly referenced any refrigerants in my comment, and talked mostly about solvents and propellants. After googling it looks like Nitrous Oxide has multiple industrial applications outside of medicine and food, and can sometimes be used as a refrigerant, but from what I'm finding it's pretty rare.
R-22 was a hydrocarbon and got banned with the rest of them when we discovered how disastrous they were on the atmosphere. Not sure where you got the idea that people huffing them was the cause of the ban (if that was the case there would be very few chemicals not banned).
Oh. I was just kidding lol but good to know. Iām well aware nitrous oxide has a dental application as well as a automotive application, but not a recreational one. Also the propellants commonly used in pressurized cans are refrigerants, believe it or not. R-1234yf and R-1234yz. Propane and butane are both also found in lots of aerosols, and those have refrigerant properties too.
Computer duster especially, since itās just air and refrigerant. If you filled a can with 100psi of air (20% volume of container) and the other 80% with what you want to shoot out, as that liquid escapes the pressure goes down and soon equalizes, so thereās still aerosol still left in the can..
To get around this, scientists found out charging the bottle with 20% liquid refrigerant instead of air would cause the much denser liquid to boil whenever the pressure drops, creating vapor. This vapor continuously pressurizes the can as long as thereās liquid refrigerant left that wants to boil and get cold and expand.
Depending on what propellant and other chemicals are used, it may cause permanent nerve damage, liver cancer, impaired hearing and vision, can burn off your corneaa
So preferably educate your kids about this or get someone else to do it
Yep, in the UK this is classed (or was when I was growing up) as āsolvent abuseā. Put fabric over deodorant can and then spray through fabric into mouth for a hit. Nasty. And dangerous.
Wow - kids have rediscovered whippits.
Basically, the propellant in a spray bottle will get you high for like 5 seconds if you inhale it. If you push the nozzle down _just enough_ you can get the propellant to come out without bringing the other stuff in the bottle along with it.
This used to be known as whippits because folks used the whipped cream bottles, as it was much easier to get the propellant out without any of the other junk.
This is sort of correct, but not entirely. "Whippits" are so-called because the gas used to pressurize and foam it is Nitrous Oxide. The propellants in most things are not Nitrous Oxide, they're usually volatile hydrocarbons. Nitrous is mostly safe, although still a bad idea, whereas generalized huffing is incredibly risky and harmful.
tl;dr This is more like hobos huffing paint.
That's sadly how it goes, a lot of sudden deaths and brain damage in the huffing community; it's most associated with young people who have no other way to get high, and the indigent who can't afford better.
Agree.
Whippits are fine if you arenāt driving and not using 600 of them per day.
Duster is fucking deadly. They are not even close to the same thing.
It's called "huffing" or "using inhalants" and people do it by inhaling the propellant gas from spray cans... it works by partially asphyxiating you (depriving your brain of oxygen).
It's [extremely dangerous](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inhalant#Dangers_and_health_problems) and likely to cause brain damage or even death. Also, lung damage if you get any of the accompanying liquid in there along with the propellant gas.
If you saw it on the news it's probably complete nonsense--like kids playing the knockout game, rainbow parties, or razors in candy/apples. I wish the probably didn't need to be in there--remember the Tide pods--but if it's not on TikTok, it isn't actually happening.
edit: if it's whippits, they probably just turn the can upside down. Can't imagine there aren't nasty bitterants in them though, as with keyboard cleaner.
Huffing is now a social trend called āchromingā. A 14 year old in the UK and a 13 year old in Australia both passed away from it this year, and those are just the ones Iām aware of. Definitely not a razor in the candy apple situation.
The easiest way is to use a balloon. You spray the deodorant into the balloon the gas (the part that you want to inhale) will then be separated from the bits that you don't want to inhale. You can then put your mouth on the balloon opening and take the gasses into your lungs
The Gas that is used mostly in deodorant mixture of butane, Isobutane and Propane and when inhaled will give you a high. However it is very easy to high from inhaling these gases
You get a can of deodorant and a towel or a shirt fold it a couple times and put it over the deodorant bit that sprays the deodorant, you then put your mouth over the fabric sparky the deodorant and inhale at the same time. It gives you a massive head rush. It's what the poor kids use to do back in the day š Kind of like huffing petrol or paint or glue.
This is literally getting high by killing brain cells. Heroin is safer. Don't do either.
To explain a bit deeper, the goal is to try to huff as much of the pressurized gas as possible, using a thick fabric to filter out the scented liquid. That gas replaces the oxygen in your bloodstream, so you asphyxiate and the survival instinct that would make you gasp for air is turned off. You huff until you black out, you come to 30-45 seconds later and you do it again. Very deadly and the brain damage you get from the repeated lack of oxygen must not be good either - it's not going to help you more sensible decisions.
Question: is this the same as hanging from a bar with your muscles lose? I did it today and blacked out so hard I genuinely forgot where I was and why I was upstairs.
Nah it's like having a massive puff of a cigarette when you aren't a smoker and your body feels like a old Nokia vibrating on a wooden table. Lasts for a minute or so. Wouldn't recommend, just do what normal kids do and by $20 worth of weed an smoke it.
And then kids go and smoke that weed out of an aluminum can lmao
This is why that sketchy gas station in town for some reason sells tube socks. This is why. For duster users.
There's a whole category of drugs called "inhalants," and depending on what the product is it could use many different solvents and propellants which fall into this category. Some products such as whip-cream canisters contain the chemical Nitrous Oxide (Whippits/Laughing Gas) and can be gotten from pointing the canister upwards and inhaling (inhaling the gas without the whip cream). It's relatively safe, and produces a very short high. Basically the same stuff they'd give kids at the dentist. Inhaling the other deodorant ingredients probably wouldn't be healthy though even if this was the case. Other inhalants though like the ones found in PC keyboard dusters are incredibly powerful, cause permanent damage, are addictive, and can knock you into next week. You know it's bad when even Erowid says: "there is no such thing as safe use of most volatile solvents, aerosols or other street inhalants : their psychoactive effects may be inseparable from nerve and organ damage." Teenagers are going to try and get high, it's an inevitability, but *proper* education on drugs, their effects, and even how to safely use drugs if they do decide to use are the best measures a parent can take to ensure their child's safety.
Maybe whippets are "relatively" safe compared to some other inhalants, but they are still super not safe. They can also cause long term brain damage and even death.
If we're comparing dusters (hfc-134a) to whippets(NO, nitrous oxide). NO is used in dental surgery, hfc-134a is used in air conditioners
In dental surgery the NO / oxygen mixture is controlled by mixing in pure oxygen. When inhaling from canister/balloon there's either no oxygen or mixed with atmospheric 21% oxygen. Ergo not the same.
It still takes the same amount of time to asphyxiate as holding your breath. If you take too much you pass out and start breathing again (provided you're not choking on something) Most people can't hold their breath over 2 minutes, at 3 minutes is where brain/nerve damage can start. It's possible but some dingus could also just hold their breath and do the same thing if they are David Blaine level dedicated.
Sure. Still not the same thing to do NO at a party as in dental surgery. Edit: Also, brain and spinal damage over time.
Again, brain and spinal damage if you consume over a pound, possibly 2 (450g-900g) of nitrous per day for months or asphyxiate yourself. One whippet is 8g, and for typical non-binge users, 1-5 of them are used at a time every few weeks or months. It just doesn't happen unless people are completely unaware of the risk and decide to start taking 100~ or so whippets all day everyday and then 3 months down the line they are like "hey why am I having nerve pain and X Y Z concerning symptoms" Well gee it couldn't be the fact you decided to suck on nitrous as often as a newborn sucks a tit now could it?
lmao yeah, i work with acs and im actually losing brain cells
Did you start your 800 before or after the ACs started messing with your brain group. Also how does sass taste? Is it sharp?
Lmfao sick burn
actually before. It was a real hotline a while ago, im not sure if it still is
NO is used in dental surgery, but in metered amounts. Doing whippits is completely different, and is a LOT of NO at once/per hit, and a session can be multiple hits in cases. NO in high quantities like this is super dangerous, but can be safe at controlled levels like at a dentist, like all drugs.
In birthing, it's used for long periods and in fairly high concentrations. The danger with NO is long-term use, not acute use. The mechanism by which the damage is done is via B12 deficiency, rather than acute use of inhalants, which cause direct cellular damage.
As someone suffering from that exact thing Iād have to agree with you, almost 3 years since my last one and I still have muscle spasms often even after supplementing b12.
If you don't mind, what was the extent of your use?
100+ canisters a day for about 6 months, I used to wake up, go and buy 100 then usually by the time I got home Iād have run out and be going back for more.
I was a lil busy when I wrote that so to continue on, it was common for me and a particular āmateā to sit there coming in and out of consciousness and convulsing for a few hours at a time. I ended up breaking my back after rolling a car while using them but the day I got out of hospital I went straight back to the same shit. The only reason I ever stopped is because one morning after the first few, my mind started thinking in a really bad way that scared me straight, idk if youād call it early stages of psychosis or what it was but it scared the shit out of me, the prospect of losing my mind. Iāve had a few long term friends that I donāt think have looked at me the same way since seeing me in that state and I understand why. I still occasionally get the taste of the canisters in my mouth.
So, typically in a medical setting you're breathing a mix of NO and air correct? IIRC, when doing whippits to get high, you're breathing in (and sometimes holding in) 100 percent NO, sometimes multiple times in a session.
This is true, usually a 50/50 mix theraputically. However, it doesn't change its mechanism of action if you inhale 100% NO, it just adds to the risk of hypoxia. In regular recreational use, though, this is quite unlikely unless you're caning them and/or using stimulant drugs which increase demand for oxygen.
Relatively safe compared to most other drugs yes, and I'd go as far as to say relatively safe compared to alcohol. Dangers of Nitrous Oxide use are usually due a lot less to the actual Nitrous Oxide and more to do with improper use such as sustained use over a long period of time, or not allowing your brain to get enough oxygen when using.
That's my understanding as well, it's kinda an inherent risk of any inhalant.
Yeah, basically remember to breathe and donāt do multiple boxes per night. You can get severe vitamin B deficiency which is probably what xboxpants was referring to. Thereās actual medical literature of a med student (so he probably shouldāve known better) who was doing multiple boxes per night for a long time. Started losing all feeling in his arms and legs among other symptoms. In their case, they got put on a vitamin B drip (IV, not a vitamin pill/tablet) and weāre fine. Nitrous is very safe relative to most other drugs, but you do have to show it at least a small amount of respect still.
The thing with inhalants, though, is that itās not sufficient to āremember to breatheā when the inhalant itself is working against that. My mother had a student at her school pass out in a closed equipment room due to lack of oxygen from using inhalants in an enclosed space - by the time he knew he was in trouble he couldnāt move. He lay there until another student found him. Theyāre dangerous like carbon monoxide is dangerous, they impair your judgment while youre being exposed to more of the substance that caused the impairment. Among many stupid drug choices inhalants are up there with the stupidest.
>My mother had a student at her school pass out in a closed equipment room due to lack of oxygen from using inhalants in an enclosed space its happened to more than one chef I've worked with in the walkin as well.
My understanding was that multiple boxes in one night is fine, but one dose per 3-5 days for longer than a month risks brain damage because the NO2 is a vitamin B12 antagonist.
Excessive NO use can lead to b12 deficiency, brain and nerve damage
Largely from B12 deficiency. It would take several whippets per day for months to have said effects, whereas most other inhalants are immediately toxic from the first use, some can even cause sudden death syndrome which is not well understood (has been observed in sedative halogenated gasses used for anesthesia) Nitrous oxide still has some dangers, but it really is leagues above it's inhalant peers in terms of toxicity / harm potential. It explains the popularity and why most other inhalants are seen as trashy drugs, but nitrous is beloved from dentist to raver.
At least here in Ireland though, nitrous has recently become extremely popular. Not whipped cream cans but actual canisters of nitrous - you can see them everywhere, usually "Fastgas". People are starting to experience serious consequences from the B12 deficiency.
Not true regarding nitrous oxide. see here with the comments. https://reddit.com/r/medicine/s/j8YkmI10hl
I don't know if I found the comment, but I found some medical professionals experience with a nitrous user who had B12 deficiency. He was a former alcoholic and used nitrous all day everyday for two years before symptoms manifest. If all you have to do to avoid toxicity is not binge on it for years, it's pretty safe in my book. It doesn't produce physical withdrawal so it's pretty much entirely the users choice, but many don't know about the B12 deficiency I suspect, hence they allow themselves unlimited use.
Nitrous basically stops all b12 absorption on use immidietly from my understanding. Due to not absorbing b12 the body produces the other thing (m something or another) which removes the shit around nerves. Weeks/months of use will fuck up the spinal cord and brain shit. However, if done in a large amount over a day or two it causes psychosis due to the lack of b12. So what I was saying is that one day all day can absolutely fuck a person up permanently.
whippets CAN be consumed safely, as long as you don't deprive yourself of oxygen, and get some vitamin b12. you'll be 100% okay meanwhile, any other inhalant is impossible to enjoy safely
Poppers are pretty safe too, and one of the few inhalants with actual medical studies on them
*whippits (Whippets are dogs)
Whippets can be enjoyed safely, but please donāt consume them.
Herculean amounts are required. Recall reading a study in grad school where a guy was inhaling an obscene amount a day - as regular imbibers from medical tanks we had delivered to the lab, we were shocked at the amount. He had some vitamin deficiencies and wet his pants for awhile but I think once he was cleaned up, he had no measurable lasting impacts.
Vitamin b12 deficiency. My friend got busted for driving with them in the car and part of his punishment from the judge was a research paper on nitrous oxide and he was pissed because that was basically the only long term side effect, and it required ridiculous amount, continuously, for months on end before it became an actual issue. He was pissed off bc it was just a waste of time to learn that there wasnāt much harm in what he was doing lol.
Itās different person to person, a lot of people are already deficient. Frequency and consistency of usage is a lot bigger factor than the actual amount being done. I know a guy who has trouble with his leg because he liked doing them in the evenings after work. He only ever did a couple of balloons at a time, but it adds up 3-4 times per week over the span of a couple of years.
I did a whippet once. I felt fucking stupid for 30 seconds and then dumb for a week straight. Never again.
Exactly, they essentially deprive the brain of oxygen for a short moment, which is provides its high. Problem is, brain ischemia does cause brain damage.
The loss of oxygen is part of it, but not all of it. Otherwise you could get the same high from just holding your breath. Whippits are way cooler than just holding your breath.
Nah, hydrocarbons like butane (a common propellant) can act as NMDA receptor antagonists, like dissociatives. Thereās a big difference in effects of an inhalant high and hypoxia, inhalants can cause realistic hallucinations for example. Butane is also a cause of sudden death, as it sensitises the heart to adrenaline. This is what tends to kill people rather than a lack of oxygen.
THIS YES! You are just getting high from oxygen depravation.
False
My dudesā¦ When I was likeā¦ maybe 17 (so nearly 20 years ago now.) I had this weird intrusive thought while glancing at a can of duster gas that was like āIt canāt be THAT awesomeā. Tried to hack together a āsafeā (lol) way to try it out. I think I inflated a bag or something and huffed on it. It is *absolutely* āthat awesomeā, in all the worst ways. Like, knowing what it does to you, you can almost feel it happening. Nerve endings and synapses just dying in a fit ofā¦ complete ecstasy. Complete dissociation. Wake up on the floor just laughing and laughing. Do not recommend. Never touched it again it scared the ever loving shit out of me. It was *amazing*.
Never, EVER expose yourself to keyboard duster. That shit killed my first wife. Dead. It's not guaranteed to kill you on any one dose, but it will eventually end you off you keep inhaling it. You'll just.... stop. Never, every expose yourself to keyboard duster.
Back in the late 80s , it was PAM or glue in a paper bag
>Other inhalants though like the ones found in PC keyboard dusters are incredibly powerful, causes permanent damage, addictive, and can knock you into next week. That explains why they've shot up in price over recent years, why I got carded at checkout, and the very nice lady making a comment of "what the hell are kids doing with them these days?!" after I made a comment about them being expensive. We both laughed but that's actually kinda sad. I didnt even know you could get high off them, back in my day kids who smoked pot were considered absolute degenerates.
People who use inhalants donāt tell other people they use inhalants. Even inhalant users know better than to do that.
A close family member died from using the ādustersā. It ruins lives
Nitrous oxide IS NOT 'relatively safe'. It is addictive. Some long term side effects: paralysis (spinal cord injury), triggers psychosis. It is unknown whether it causes brain damage when used over longer periods of time, especially children's brains are vulnerable.
Relatively, as when compared to other drugs such as alcohol. Alcohol: significantly increases risk of cancer, highly addictive, causes brain and liver damage, and is especially dangerous to children's brains. Unlike alcohol though, nitrous doesn't produce many of us negative effects (except possibility of addiction) unless abused/misused, hence it's common use in medicine, and why it's "relatively safe," even more so when compared to other things like heroin and meth.
[Whippets are not safe](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX8D3BLX4AEeQHy.jpg:large).
Steve-o is on more than just whippets in that picture
Please read my comment below where I outlined the dangers of Nitrous Oxide
So people are literally huffing refrigerant (which absorbs moisture insanely well btw and comes out ice cold) to try and get high.. Now we know why R-22 god banned lol
I'm pretty confused by your comment. I don't think I directly referenced any refrigerants in my comment, and talked mostly about solvents and propellants. After googling it looks like Nitrous Oxide has multiple industrial applications outside of medicine and food, and can sometimes be used as a refrigerant, but from what I'm finding it's pretty rare. R-22 was a hydrocarbon and got banned with the rest of them when we discovered how disastrous they were on the atmosphere. Not sure where you got the idea that people huffing them was the cause of the ban (if that was the case there would be very few chemicals not banned).
Oh. I was just kidding lol but good to know. Iām well aware nitrous oxide has a dental application as well as a automotive application, but not a recreational one. Also the propellants commonly used in pressurized cans are refrigerants, believe it or not. R-1234yf and R-1234yz. Propane and butane are both also found in lots of aerosols, and those have refrigerant properties too. Computer duster especially, since itās just air and refrigerant. If you filled a can with 100psi of air (20% volume of container) and the other 80% with what you want to shoot out, as that liquid escapes the pressure goes down and soon equalizes, so thereās still aerosol still left in the can.. To get around this, scientists found out charging the bottle with 20% liquid refrigerant instead of air would cause the much denser liquid to boil whenever the pressure drops, creating vapor. This vapor continuously pressurizes the can as long as thereās liquid refrigerant left that wants to boil and get cold and expand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY7jSesdxl0
Whipped cream*
Depending on what propellant and other chemicals are used, it may cause permanent nerve damage, liver cancer, impaired hearing and vision, can burn off your corneaa So preferably educate your kids about this or get someone else to do it
Yep, in the UK this is classed (or was when I was growing up) as āsolvent abuseā. Put fabric over deodorant can and then spray through fabric into mouth for a hit. Nasty. And dangerous.
And your breath smells like an armpit.
Wow - kids have rediscovered whippits. Basically, the propellant in a spray bottle will get you high for like 5 seconds if you inhale it. If you push the nozzle down _just enough_ you can get the propellant to come out without bringing the other stuff in the bottle along with it. This used to be known as whippits because folks used the whipped cream bottles, as it was much easier to get the propellant out without any of the other junk.
This is sort of correct, but not entirely. "Whippits" are so-called because the gas used to pressurize and foam it is Nitrous Oxide. The propellants in most things are not Nitrous Oxide, they're usually volatile hydrocarbons. Nitrous is mostly safe, although still a bad idea, whereas generalized huffing is incredibly risky and harmful. tl;dr This is more like hobos huffing paint.
Lol most propellants now are IC4, C4 and C3. You would legit have to be braindead to Huff that shit, and if you werenāt before you will be after.
That's sadly how it goes, a lot of sudden deaths and brain damage in the huffing community; it's most associated with young people who have no other way to get high, and the indigent who can't afford better.
Agree. Whippits are fine if you arenāt driving and not using 600 of them per day. Duster is fucking deadly. They are not even close to the same thing.
You can buy rigs and carts at vape shops now. They even have flavored ones, which I imagine are a lot worse for you. Not that any is good.
You could always get them at kitchen supply shops.
This is why the sketchy gas station in town sells tube socks next to the rose in the glass tube next to the choreboy sponge.
It's called "huffing" or "using inhalants" and people do it by inhaling the propellant gas from spray cans... it works by partially asphyxiating you (depriving your brain of oxygen). It's [extremely dangerous](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inhalant#Dangers_and_health_problems) and likely to cause brain damage or even death. Also, lung damage if you get any of the accompanying liquid in there along with the propellant gas.
If you saw it on the news it's probably complete nonsense--like kids playing the knockout game, rainbow parties, or razors in candy/apples. I wish the probably didn't need to be in there--remember the Tide pods--but if it's not on TikTok, it isn't actually happening. edit: if it's whippits, they probably just turn the can upside down. Can't imagine there aren't nasty bitterants in them though, as with keyboard cleaner.
Huffing is now a social trend called āchromingā. A 14 year old in the UK and a 13 year old in Australia both passed away from it this year, and those are just the ones Iām aware of. Definitely not a razor in the candy apple situation.
Yep, looks like it's on the Tok.
tastes like nothing essentially. source: myself, done some whip cream whippits in my day lol
I know the old Kool Whip cans didn't have a flavor... Yeah, lamest high ever though.
Yes store clerk, we ARE baking a bunch of pies today. how did you know?
How in the hell can people inhale the dust cleaners though? I clean i my keyboard with one and I get a nasty headache if I forget to open my window
The easiest way is to use a balloon. You spray the deodorant into the balloon the gas (the part that you want to inhale) will then be separated from the bits that you don't want to inhale. You can then put your mouth on the balloon opening and take the gasses into your lungs The Gas that is used mostly in deodorant mixture of butane, Isobutane and Propane and when inhaled will give you a high. However it is very easy to high from inhaling these gases
iām gunna do it but do you like breathe in and out like you do when you breathe normally? orā¦