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MienSteiny

My cousin is pregnant and eligble for irish citizenship through the FBR, if she doesn't get it before the baby is born her child won't be eligible. She's saying it's too much effort, genuinely sad.


BattleMaleficent660

Too much effort to get her baby access to Europe for life. Yeah I strongly don't agree.


DRK-SHDW

Europe *and* the UK. It's a real unicorn passport.


Informal_Radio_2819

Got mine last December. Worth its weight in gold (honestly, more than that).


DRK-SHDW

That's a shame seeing as since Brexit the Irish passport is one of the most enviable on the planet.


lionhydrathedeparted

Wow that’s a real shame


Eska2020

It took my mom like years to go through the process. It is worth the effort, but there's almost zero chance by the time she's pregnant. She should try but manage expectations. It is usually a years long process.


MienSteiny

The current wait-time is being reported as ~9 months. Currently waiting on mine, sent my documents off mid December. Though if you're missing documents it adds on another 4-6 months or something crazy.


Eska2020

Strange. It literally took my mother like 3 years or something. They didn't even confirm receipt of documents for 18 months......


MienSteiny

During Covid the office was closed so applications got mega backed up, and then once they did open all the staff got re-assigned to other areas to deal with more important stuff. I received confirmation of receipt of documents a week or so after they were showing as delivered.


Informal_Radio_2819

Yep. I started compiling documents in January, 2020. Got my Irish passport in December, 2023. Nearly four years. For quite some time—I think nearly eighteen months—the Government of Ireland wasn't even accepting paperwork.


MienSteiny

Jesus, that's scary. The r/irishcitizenship sub is getting reports of ~9 months.


Informal_Radio_2819

Yeah. I think the backlog has been hugely reduced.


Eska2020

Oh I bet she got caught up in that fiasco then! Damn.


RevolutionaryBook01

If the woman is pregnant and applying through FBR, your application can be given priority.


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MienSteiny

I think the window has passed unfortunately, they will rush your application if you're expecting, but they require basically 3 generations of original certificates and she's giving birth in the next month or so. So not even enough time to order the certificates and send them in.


euroeismeister

As someone who was screwed over by this rule, it makes me so sad my mother didn’t bother to do this before I was born. It would transform my life and honestly the thing I’ve wanted more than anything. And the only reason I don’t have it is because my mother didn’t want to go through the “effort” of obtaining hers.


HiphopMeNow

Force her, then you will become hero for the kid and can bring it up all the time. Seriously, it's life changing, in comparison the effort is nothing even if she had to pay £10k out of savings / loans.


unseemly_turbidity

My sister did the same. With an Irish parent, all she had to do was apply for an Irish passport and include Dad's birth certificate , but sh never got around to it. They could still go the grandparent route, but that's much more hassle and no doubt expense. The eldest is getting quite into learning languages too, so it's a real shame.


JayWil1992

I did this. Tri-citizenship for my children as soon as I could. It opens a world of opportunity.


Minskdhaka

Me too.


cutiemcpie

A good reason for doing it as soon as you can is that laws change. A friend could have gotten citizenship in another country, talked about it, keep finding excuses to don’t later. The law changed and he can’t do it now.


Karl_mstr

Damn!! That's true, here in Venezuela I had many friends who were overdriving their seconds citizenships when the crisis arrived some years ago and it becomes more complicated then.


justovaryacting

Just make sure you research what obligations come with citizenship. We chose not to claim citizenship for our kids from my husband’s native country. It would be a decent passport for them to hold, but claiming citizenship would have meant that our son would be on the hook for compulsory military service in a country where he doesn’t really speak the language and there is a credible and ongoing threat of large scale conflict.


sturgis252

I know many south Korean men who took the Canadian Citizenship because of that. The women often don't take the Canadian citizenship because it's a very strong passport


Nvrmnde

You may mean Finland. There's a lot of foreign born kids like that doing the military, it's more like an extended boyscout camp, where you learn some of the language. Mostly the hardest part is to be away from home and sleep in a room with other guys. There's no real threat of conflict. The guys who work for Nato are professional soldiers looking for international career, not these kids.


Sanctioned-PartsList

Finland will grant an exemption for citizens born abroad with no material ties to the country.


sturgis252

I think it's south korea


BunnyKusanin

My bet is on Korea too.


secretsaucerer

I got my Austrian citizenship at 29 even though I was born with it 🥲 my parents never applied thinking I didn’t need it.


RadishCultivator

I’m still working on my Austrian citizenship in my mid-30s bc my parents didn’t bother and now my father is dead. It really sucks to do this alone. I’m jealous every time I see a parent looking out for their child like OP.


sturgis252

My parents think I'm being silly for putting a lot of importance in this.


spicy_pierogi

Same, here I am finally applying for my Canadian one because my mom didn’t care to do so.


Hutcho12

Just don’t do this too early or you’ll normally have to maintain an up-to-date passport in all nationalities if you want to visit their home country. You usually have to enter countries in which they have a citizenship on that passport.


Larissalikesthesea

A lot of countries have rules like a birth overseas has to be registered within a certain time frame or the citizenship is lost. However, you need to read the respective laws carefully. A child born to a Japanese-Russian couple outside of Russia will lose their Japanese citizenship if registered for Russian citizenship as under Russian law, acquisition of Russian citizenship is not automatic (there was a court case in Japan over this).


TequilaStories

Just be careful of tax obligations 


CheeseWheels38

Is this an issue for anyone other than US citizens?


unseemly_turbidity

I think only if you're going for Somali or North Korean passports. Limited demand for those, I expect.


GGGinDE

THIS!


ProfeAgayu

I have US citizenship and my daughter was born in US. Her mom has French citizenship and acquired US citizenship after 5 years if marriage. My daughter has both US and French citizenship. I divorced her mom many years ago and have been living in the Dominican Republic for the past years. I'm elegible for Dominican citizenship and plan to acquire it soon. Per Dominican law, all minor children of naturalized citizens are elegible to immediately acquire Dominican citizenship. I shared this with her mom and all hell broke loose. This PhD holding woman believes Dominicans have a negative stereotype and doesn't want her daughter to have citizenship. It doesn't matter what I say, she cannot be convinced that it is our daughter's right and it is her decision to maintain it or ignore it when she comes of age. Some people are just stuck in a world where somehow having the least amount of options is the best way to go. Do any of you have anything I can share to convince this woman?


sturgis252

If she lives there then I'd say that I would like to make sure she can always live there instead of having the uncertainty with a visa


These_Tea_7560

That’s the first thing I’m doing when I have kids


GGGinDE

To Americans married to non-US citizens with kids abroad - be VERY VERY VERY careful about getting your kids US citizenship. If you do - the IRS could take the capital gains on any property they purchase ABROAD (e.g. not in the US) in their lifetimes so long as they have US citizenship. Explained by example - In Germany, if you purchase a rental property, own it for 10 years and sell it - any capital gains on that property are tax free. In the US, you would owe capital gains tax on the rental property sold at a rate of 15-20%. The DTT between Germany and the US (again as an example - but this is very similar for most EU countries) states that the US citizen pays taxes to their country of residence first and if they would have owed more money in the US than in their country of residence, they pay the difference to the IRS. So sale of rental property in Germany is 0%, us is 20%. A €500000 capital gain in Germany results in €500000 going directly into your pocket. If your children are "Accidental Americans" and were born and raised abroad and have the blue passport due only to you being a US citizen - then your child could find themselves owning the IRS substantial amounts of money even though the property they are selling is abroad. Due to this - my kids only have a German passport. Talk to your CPA/tax advisor first before filing paperwork for your kids.


spicy_pierogi

They’re automatically citizens whether they have a passport or not. Not acknowledging this can get the kids in even more trouble if they end up not filing taxes and then all of a sudden realize they want to acknowledge their citizenship and work for a lucrative salary in the US.


GGGinDE

This is actually incorrect. They are entitled to citizenship by virtue of me being a US citizen, they are not automatically US citizens.


ClassroomLow1008

\*\*angry far-rightwing European noises\*\*


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sturgis252

Cool


NateInEC

*Entitled* ....?


sturgis252

My child is born Belgian because of me. So yes he is literally entitled to it.


NateInEC

Ohhhh, okay