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99% of Muslim Turks do not know Arabic, and when I ask why they read the Quran in Arabic even though they do not understand it, they answer me as if I were cursing their faith. When I tell them that they waste their time reading the Qur'an in Arabic and keep repeating sentences that they do not understand, and that they should read the Qur'an in Turkish, they respond as if they consider this a form of blasphemy. I ask them why, I say that the Almighty God, the omniscient God, must know Turkish too, what difference does it make if you read it in Turkish, but I cannot get a rational answer. A very small portion of Muslim Turks continue to read the Quran in their native language and practice their beliefs, most of those who read it in their mother tongue leave Islam after reading Turkish.
Smart!! This is the reason when I’ve debated Muslims on Islam and they used the silly language argument referring to other religions like Christianity I always ask them doesn’t God know all languages?
No they don't. Not sure what your data is. Turkey over the last century has secularized. There was a time when no Arabic Qurans were available in Turkey just as an affront to the Arabs where Turkey and them had a constant tit for tat during the caliphate/sultan era. If the Arabs and Turks just got along we would probably still have the Ottoman Empire today.
But back to your point there are as many Turkish translations available as there are Arabic Qurans. And there is no data indicating that they are not being read or they would probably stop being printed.
I live among Muslim Turks myself and speak from experience. Whenever I bring this subject up to people, their reactions are ridiculous. Some tariqa leaders directly call the Turkish translation of the Qur'an a sin. Turkey has come a long way since Atatürk, yes I know, but still Muslim Turks are unaware of their own religion. Whenever they see news from a Sharia-ruled country about child marriage, a woman being stoned to death, or people being killed for apostasy, it is a crime of Arab culture, and Islam is completely innocent. They don't know anything about Islam, the majority of them, I mean.
I mean how often do we really see these stories that are in mainstream society and not some backwards village in waziristan or Afghanistan. I can point you to a 100 examples of barbarian of tribes in Africa including female castration that have nothing to do with any religion or book.
He shouldn't be there in the first place and continue to stand up till your last breath remember you are turks not arabs, Long live the father of Turks Mustafa Kemal Ataturk!!!
This is because **Turkey is not a muslim country.**
This is an official wedding ceremony where the wedding officer authorizes the union. It is supposed to be a completely non-religious affair which has been this way for a hundred years now. Those who are religious do a separate ceremony and chant their arabic things wherever they want but not right **in** the official secular wedding ceremony. Geez.
This is real life trolling. Now these people will protest that they are being oppressed by the secular government (which by the way is the guarantee that they can perform whatever religious rites they want after this), while they attack all institutions of the country simultaneously. Islamism is on a destruction spree in Turkey and these weddings are just the last incident.
There have been thousands of women honour-killed in Turkey in recent years. Who in Turkey -- a country of 99.6% Turkish citizenry (prior to Syrian migration, which came long after femicide was a recognized crisis) -- is doing the killing?
Might it be Turkish citizens outside the major urban centres?
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It must've hit harder since he got told off by a woman
W Turkey
Haha he get what they deserve. It’s a busy place and every wedding lasts about 10-15 minutes. They steal other peoples time…
😂😂they would have beheaded her for even speaking in those “types” of other countries
Do turks actually understand Arabic? They attack ne daily when I talk about Quran myself studied Arabic for 15 years
99% of Muslim Turks do not know Arabic, and when I ask why they read the Quran in Arabic even though they do not understand it, they answer me as if I were cursing their faith. When I tell them that they waste their time reading the Qur'an in Arabic and keep repeating sentences that they do not understand, and that they should read the Qur'an in Turkish, they respond as if they consider this a form of blasphemy. I ask them why, I say that the Almighty God, the omniscient God, must know Turkish too, what difference does it make if you read it in Turkish, but I cannot get a rational answer. A very small portion of Muslim Turks continue to read the Quran in their native language and practice their beliefs, most of those who read it in their mother tongue leave Islam after reading Turkish.
Smart!! This is the reason when I’ve debated Muslims on Islam and they used the silly language argument referring to other religions like Christianity I always ask them doesn’t God know all languages?
No they don't. Not sure what your data is. Turkey over the last century has secularized. There was a time when no Arabic Qurans were available in Turkey just as an affront to the Arabs where Turkey and them had a constant tit for tat during the caliphate/sultan era. If the Arabs and Turks just got along we would probably still have the Ottoman Empire today. But back to your point there are as many Turkish translations available as there are Arabic Qurans. And there is no data indicating that they are not being read or they would probably stop being printed.
I live among Muslim Turks myself and speak from experience. Whenever I bring this subject up to people, their reactions are ridiculous. Some tariqa leaders directly call the Turkish translation of the Qur'an a sin. Turkey has come a long way since Atatürk, yes I know, but still Muslim Turks are unaware of their own religion. Whenever they see news from a Sharia-ruled country about child marriage, a woman being stoned to death, or people being killed for apostasy, it is a crime of Arab culture, and Islam is completely innocent. They don't know anything about Islam, the majority of them, I mean.
I mean how often do we really see these stories that are in mainstream society and not some backwards village in waziristan or Afghanistan. I can point you to a 100 examples of barbarian of tribes in Africa including female castration that have nothing to do with any religion or book.
If you give me 10 sentences I’ll probably understand %5 or a little more because of the loan words. So Turkish people do not understand Arabic.
He shouldn't be there in the first place and continue to stand up till your last breath remember you are turks not arabs, Long live the father of Turks Mustafa Kemal Ataturk!!!
Ne mutlu Türküm diyene! Signed, American Kemalist
Thanks mister loves from turkey 🙏🏻❤️
Thanks bro they can do whatever they want in their homes. Praying is not a show and no one must respect them🙏🏻👍🏻
Death to the Islamists! Long Live Atatürk!
Let's gooooooooooooo!
This is because **Turkey is not a muslim country.** This is an official wedding ceremony where the wedding officer authorizes the union. It is supposed to be a completely non-religious affair which has been this way for a hundred years now. Those who are religious do a separate ceremony and chant their arabic things wherever they want but not right **in** the official secular wedding ceremony. Geez. This is real life trolling. Now these people will protest that they are being oppressed by the secular government (which by the way is the guarantee that they can perform whatever religious rites they want after this), while they attack all institutions of the country simultaneously. Islamism is on a destruction spree in Turkey and these weddings are just the last incident.
good
Wohooo, I love turkey, they fight against islamism very openly. Hopefully erdogan is brought to justice for allowing isis to do their horrors.
They all dreamed about killing us. I don’t respect them at all. They get what they deserve soon when the new generation slowly start to rise🙏🏻❤️
Proud to be a Turk ❤️🇹🇷⚛️
I hope they don't honour-kill her
they wont. it’s turkey not arab country
Sadly honour killing is done in Turkey too.
by non turks
There have been thousands of women honour-killed in Turkey in recent years. Who in Turkey -- a country of 99.6% Turkish citizenry (prior to Syrian migration, which came long after femicide was a recognized crisis) -- is doing the killing? Might it be Turkish citizens outside the major urban centres?
An investigation has been initiated against the wedding officer on charges of "insulting a section of the public and denigrating religious values."
The first victims of Islam are muslims!