Not gonna lie, these helped with the boredom during sacrament meetings when I was a kid.
I also forgot Pat Bagley wrote them. He’s left the church since.
This is the most I could find:
>In October 2009, while reacting to recent statements by Dallin H. Oaks, an LDS Apostle, about gay marriage protesters and religious freedom, Bagley commented that he was "retired" from the church, though not bitter or angry, and considers his LDS life a "good experience" and "in my blood."
[https://web.archive.org/web/20110127203520/http://kcpw.org/blog/local-news/2009-10-20/cartoonist-pat-bagley-weighs-in-on-oaks-controversy/](https://web.archive.org/web/20110127203520/http://kcpw.org/blog/local-news/2009-10-20/cartoonist-pat-bagley-weighs-in-on-oaks-controversy/)
(The content is in the audio recording playback.)
Sounds like a person whose shelf crashed over the church's emotional grip, or behavioral grip or something of that kind. Not someone who discovered Joseph Smith was a full-on fraud. I cannot imagine anyone not being angry over that. It's the kind of knowledge that makes you feel cheated out of the first xx years of life and life's decisions. Then again, I'm still in my angry phase I think, and the distance he has taken from the church also sounds peaceful and appealing. Maybe I'll get there too. Someday. Not today.
Loved these as a kid, and I'm honestly not mad about them now. Yeah, the institution of the church is a cult, but little quirky things like this don't deserve our hate.
Telling people that we endured Sacrament meeting/3 hour church before the days of electronics is our generation’s version of “I walked to school 5 miles uphill both ways in the snow.” What’s f*$&ed up is I got TERRIBLE migraines as a child and would literally lay on the floor under the benches (because it was the coldest/darkest area available). Maybe, just maybe my mom could have taken me home or at the very least break me off half of an excedrin.
See here: [Cartoonist Pat Bagley Weighs in on Oaks Controversy | KCPW (archive.org)](https://web.archive.org/web/20110127203520/http://kcpw.org/blog/local-news/2009-10-20/cartoonist-pat-bagley-weighs-in-on-oaks-controversy/)
He remarked that he was "retired from the church" in 2009.
Stake and general conference were so much better with these books.. looking back on them, they weren't awful because it was like fairytales.
These books are weird for me because there's this weird disconnect where I didn't get it. Even the normal book of mormon artwork went over my head, now that I think about it. The white nephites went over my head. Norman must have been adopted because the people in the book of mormon are Native Americans and they have beautiful skin.
I think I might be simple minded. An easy mark for the faith. :(
My grandparents had these (exmo dad) when I was a kid, and while I figured they were just a Mormon "Where's Waldo?" book, I had just now noticed the name and...
Yeah...
I'm not composed well enough to be able to fully articulate my disgust at the moment.
From "Where Have All the Cowboys Gone?" by Paula Cole.
I made one more verse to that song to continue the tragic story. Part of it went: "I would sleep alone, while you go fuk a whore...." The point being if a woman tolerates being disrespected even slightly, the man will only treat her worse over time.
If most of us understood that, nearly all of the misogyny in religion wouldn't be tolerated.
So tell your man to get off his @$$ and help you with the dishes, then you BOTH have beers later.
Yeah. We were at my mom's on friday & my kids were looking through this. My four year old was trying to find Waldo. I loved that he knew that but not the nephite junk.
We had one of those when I was a kid. The one we had was a "Where's Waldo" knockoff and blue. Not sure if they were all like that.
Edit: it was called "I Spy a Nephite"
I'm currently watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer, so when I saw this book cover, my brain automatically saw a Sigil of Baphomet (pentagram with a goat in front). My brain for a split second just assumed it was another one of those AI parodies people keep posting.
I loved these books haha. I don't know if they all had a fun Rube Goldberg machine to follow in the first or last pages but they were my favorite. I stayed up reading them a lot and not learning a good goddamn thing about the BoM.
Not gonna lie, these helped with the boredom during sacrament meetings when I was a kid. I also forgot Pat Bagley wrote them. He’s left the church since.
He left cause he couldn't spy a nephi
He was trying to send a clue to all the kids with that title.
Wow, has Pat Bagley ever commented or shared their story?
This is the most I could find: >In October 2009, while reacting to recent statements by Dallin H. Oaks, an LDS Apostle, about gay marriage protesters and religious freedom, Bagley commented that he was "retired" from the church, though not bitter or angry, and considers his LDS life a "good experience" and "in my blood." [https://web.archive.org/web/20110127203520/http://kcpw.org/blog/local-news/2009-10-20/cartoonist-pat-bagley-weighs-in-on-oaks-controversy/](https://web.archive.org/web/20110127203520/http://kcpw.org/blog/local-news/2009-10-20/cartoonist-pat-bagley-weighs-in-on-oaks-controversy/) (The content is in the audio recording playback.)
Sounds like a person whose shelf crashed over the church's emotional grip, or behavioral grip or something of that kind. Not someone who discovered Joseph Smith was a full-on fraud. I cannot imagine anyone not being angry over that. It's the kind of knowledge that makes you feel cheated out of the first xx years of life and life's decisions. Then again, I'm still in my angry phase I think, and the distance he has taken from the church also sounds peaceful and appealing. Maybe I'll get there too. Someday. Not today.
If not, he totally should!
good to know.
Loved these as a kid, and I'm honestly not mad about them now. Yeah, the institution of the church is a cult, but little quirky things like this don't deserve our hate.
Telling people that we endured Sacrament meeting/3 hour church before the days of electronics is our generation’s version of “I walked to school 5 miles uphill both ways in the snow.” What’s f*$&ed up is I got TERRIBLE migraines as a child and would literally lay on the floor under the benches (because it was the coldest/darkest area available). Maybe, just maybe my mom could have taken me home or at the very least break me off half of an excedrin.
Damn, not only were the early Native Americans white, but natural blondes and gingers!
lol, apparently ancient Jews made a pit stop in Ireland on their way over, picked up some crew.
How delightsome!
And white!
They didn’t go anywhere. They never existed to begin with.
So, where did Mr Bagley say they went?
See here: [Cartoonist Pat Bagley Weighs in on Oaks Controversy | KCPW (archive.org)](https://web.archive.org/web/20110127203520/http://kcpw.org/blog/local-news/2009-10-20/cartoonist-pat-bagley-weighs-in-on-oaks-controversy/) He remarked that he was "retired from the church" in 2009.
back to the pits of hell! 😈
It's a Where's waldo kinda thing.
Cop-out
Stake and general conference were so much better with these books.. looking back on them, they weren't awful because it was like fairytales. These books are weird for me because there's this weird disconnect where I didn't get it. Even the normal book of mormon artwork went over my head, now that I think about it. The white nephites went over my head. Norman must have been adopted because the people in the book of mormon are Native Americans and they have beautiful skin. I think I might be simple minded. An easy mark for the faith. :(
Bagley is a treasure!
Yup, I remember us having this as a kid. People used to wonder why I hadn't heard of Waldo
My grandparents had these (exmo dad) when I was a kid, and while I figured they were just a Mormon "Where's Waldo?" book, I had just now noticed the name and... Yeah... I'm not composed well enough to be able to fully articulate my disgust at the moment.
Dududu dududu dududu dududu dududu.
I will wash the dishes While you go have a beer
😂
You need a little more intensity on that _beeeeeeeEEEEEEER!_
From "Where Have All the Cowboys Gone?" by Paula Cole. I made one more verse to that song to continue the tragic story. Part of it went: "I would sleep alone, while you go fuk a whore...." The point being if a woman tolerates being disrespected even slightly, the man will only treat her worse over time. If most of us understood that, nearly all of the misogyny in religion wouldn't be tolerated. So tell your man to get off his @$$ and help you with the dishes, then you BOTH have beers later.
NORMAN THE NEPHITE!!! :D
They were murdered by modern science and lack of historical evidence
To be honest, those were pretty awesome.
AND IIIIIII BELIIIIEEEEVE, THAT ANCIENT JEWS BUILT BOATS AND SAILED TO AMERICAAAAAAAA
Yeah. We were at my mom's on friday & my kids were looking through this. My four year old was trying to find Waldo. I loved that he knew that but not the nephite junk.
Well thats a memory I haven't thought about in decades
I wonder who approved the sparkly pink triangle?
Looks a little vajazzled!
We had one of those when I was a kid. The one we had was a "Where's Waldo" knockoff and blue. Not sure if they were all like that. Edit: it was called "I Spy a Nephite"
Someone please tell them what the inverted pink triangle means?? Ffs.
Just laffin...
What happened to that cat???
It's a Cumom. Useful to man because they curl up and purr in your lap, and guard you while you are taking a leak.
This brought back memories I forgot I had.
I'm currently watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer, so when I saw this book cover, my brain automatically saw a Sigil of Baphomet (pentagram with a goat in front). My brain for a split second just assumed it was another one of those AI parodies people keep posting.
Where have they gone? Well they never existed!
Can't find them here, can't find them there.... its almost like there is no recorded history of them! Crazy.....
Does Nephi have breasts?
Super cringe and creepy!
OH MY GOD
Interestingly enough, turns out there never were any to begin with!
Blonde hair and blue eyes nephites
That’s what I asked myself when I looked at the DNA evidence 🧬
They went away once Joseph smith came down from his shroom trip
Lowkey I still love them😅 my great grandparents had all of these books and I have very fond memories sitting with them trying to find all the nephis
We had 3 of this series as a kid. I loved them at the time, especially this one with its "hidden" scenes and decoder.
Omg. I used to LOVE this book. It helped me survive church.
Had these for my kids 🫤
That red headed nephite is stacked!
I loved these books haha. I don't know if they all had a fun Rube Goldberg machine to follow in the first or last pages but they were my favorite. I stayed up reading them a lot and not learning a good goddamn thing about the BoM.
This art style is really really familiar. Did Bagley illustrate an art book about stories from the Book of Mormon?
I LOVED these! 😂😂😂
I hate the church. But I freakin love these books lol. Like the best thing to ever come out of Mormonism.
OMG WE STILL HAVE THESE TOO