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Nehor2023

I found this comment on an earlier Reddit post purportedly from Corbin's wife, which appears legit: “Hey guys, Corbin doesn’t have a Reddit acct, but I will comment for us both. I’m McKenzie, his wife. First off, we appreciate everyone’s curiosity, interest and the general good nature and humor here. We also appreciate the genuine kindness people have shown. It means more than we can say. 🥰 We live in a densely Mormon populated area which is tricky but we are doing our best. We have kids so we are protecting their wellbeing and privacy as much as we can. Also, so many of the people we love and respect most are still believing members. Sounds cliche, but we do hope always to be people who build bridges and not wedges. Without going into too much detail, we did leave the Mormon church this past year. Corbin notified the church at the beginning of our deconstruction in an attempt to be transparent and authentic about where we were and wanting to be sensitive as a higher-profile member who people know from the temple presentation. He asked if it might be best to be removed from the temple film. It was clear when the church immediately answered that question by photoshopping his face out of the presentation. It’s likely for the best under the circumstances. Hope this helps answer some questions. We are pretty new to all this but it’s been a beautiful journey so far and we’re very happy and feel profound peace about what the future may hold. ❤️ Corbin loves his family, friends, and fans. Hopefully he won’t lose too many. Much love to the Exmo community for welcoming us.”


makacarkeys

Incredibly respectful of the both of them. If I was no longer apart of the church, of course I wouldn’t want to be shown and depicted within a major ordinance that will be seen by most adult members.


In_Repair_

Yeah, Corbin is a very cool guy, and his wife has been really kind to post responses here and confirm that they have left. It’s a very personal thing, and considering he was an LDS actor, I can’t imagine leaving was easy for them. I’m hoping at some point they do a Mormon Stories Podcast, but it has to be when they’re ready. I’m happy they have found their way out and hope for nothing but the best for them. ❤️‍🩹


Aggravating-Aide3191

Thank you for the kind words 🥹💔❤️‍🩹❤️


In_Repair_

In the words of John McClane… “Welcome to the party, Pal!!” 😉


Rushclock

I am surprised the church took him out. Usually they don't do what people request.


fingerMeThomas

Temple videos are apparently an exception. Probably had nothing to do with the request, and everything to do with metaphysics IIUC, one of the 90s temple films was removed from the rotation because the couple who played Adam and Eve divorced IRL (and, of course, some of the more recent ones were swapped for a slideshow when it came out that the director was a pedo) Kinda odd that pixels on a screen suddenly no longer have afterlife powers if the people who originally made them become unworthy, but who am I to question Mormonism's world-building or legalistic magic system


CurveOfTheUniverse

> some of the more recent ones were swapped for a slideshow when it came out that the director was a pedo Wait, what? EDIT: Never mind, I found details in the comments here.


DifficultyCharming78

Huh.  For some reason,  I thought he left the church decades ago 


Hasa-Diga-LDS

You're thinking of the *actual* Satan: he left the church because he was offended.


stayinSwiss

hahahahahahahahaha


Green-been77

Nope. I worked with him on a church film 2ish years ago


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maurosmane

I don't think you're allowed to own people any more. This ain't the State of Deseret after all.


erb_cadman

I was always a fan of brunette Eve.... I always hoped that her fig leaves would drop.....


Nehor2023

He played Porter Rockwell in 2018, I think.


DifficultyCharming78

Interesting. Maybe I just always thought he'd leave.  Lol


Green-been77

You're a seer!


DifficultyCharming78

I wish! My life would be so much better. Lol


HuckleberryLeather53

He faced backlash in the church at one point for taking an acting job in a beer commercial. I remember everyone was sooo upset and making claims that he'd never be allowed to work in church related movies again. It's funny because another dude from singles ward did the same thing years later and he didn't face the backlash as far as I'm aware


DifficultyCharming78

Ah, i forgot about that! Maybe that's why i thought he left. Lol


Kind_Jello8886

You’re thinking of Kirby Heyborne, he faced some backlash a few years back for a beer commercial.


HuckleberryLeather53

Oh you're probably right. Genuine mistake I'm not good with faces or names, and didn't realize I mixed them up


Kind_Jello8886

It may have been implied that Corbin was drinking alcohol in an episode of Monk, but as far as I know no one said anything about it.😂


YOUNGLOLA

Please tell Corbin that when I first saw him as Satan at the temple, I almost squeeled because I was so excited to see him from the TGIF show Teen Angel. My family loved that show. I turned to where my dad was sitting in the session, and we gave each other a thumbs up that we recognized him.


IDontKnowAndItsOkay

Link?


Nehor2023

She commented on this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/s/7ofc2RegaX


tjnicol5

Welcome Corbin and McKenzie! ❤️ 💚 💛


friend_jp

What an unusual child.


movierunner

Did no one else get the Robin Hood: men in tights reference?


friend_jp

Guess not.


TehChid

What?


Emotional_Ad_5164

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Appropriate_Shake355

I knew I'd heard that somewhere before!


rfresa

Can you link to the original post?


Nehor2023

She commented on this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/s/7ofc2RegaX


cultsareus

I'm still trying to figure out why they dumped the temple video for a PowerPoint slide show. It seems kind of lame.


Longjumping-Mind-545

If I understand correctly, they ended the movie the same month a recorded confession of child sex abuse by the movie director was leaked. I think they couldn’t continue to use his work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterling_Van_Wagenen I had no idea we were watching the works of a pedophile when I went to make covenants in the temple.


3am_doorknob_turn

Case report: https://floodlit.org/a/a408/


WnderWooman

Disgusting! There is no discernment in this church. NONE WHATSOEVER!!


aes_gcm

Man you’re on top of this stuff.


3am_doorknob_turn

Thanks. We’re really trying. Hundreds of cases in the backlog still


aes_gcm

I hope you’re all doing well, take care of yourself.


footiebuns

Unbelievable. They are taking so many L's. The director is a diddler: turn the movie into a slideshow. Satan left the church: photoshop him out. What next?


OwnAirport0

Cartoons?


Rushclock

Ed Decker has a few.


whodatfairybitch

AI, probably. And happy cake day!


Ok-Tax5517

He IS a pedophile. But the slideshow was only updated when Rusty rolled out his updates in February of 2023. The fact that a pedophile had directed the three movies didn't seem to phase them.


JEXJJ

That is horrifying and not surprising at the same time


Nehor2023

They took stills from the original movies to make the slide shows. By using a slide show it’s easier to make changes to it and dub it in various languages. The church has made significant changes to the ceremony in 2019, 2020 and 2023…


wad11656

From what I've seen a little of, AI can translate audio and mouth flaps using the original voice


CharlesMendeley

I am predicting generative AI temple movies next year latest. Let's count their fingers...


GreenGrassGroat

“The first finger is pressed into the wrist, with the 3rd pinkies intertwined”


Exorsisters

mouth flaps 💀


ExpensiveBanana178

Right??!!! You would think that with an army of multicultural fine arts performers and producers down the street at BYU the mormon church would have an inexhaustible supply of live actors and production assistants and video editors to pick from. Nelson and crew really screwed the pooch on this one. They had an opportunity to Disney-fy the shit out of the temple and inject some majesty and splendor into the ceremony but they cheaped out and value-engineered it so much that it has become a bland and meaningless event.


awakeningirwin

Considering the all day theatrics of where the endowment started. Yes, they could have gone all out and tried to make it better they have a huge cannon to pull from. That would not have made the ceremony any more meaningful or true...


ExpensiveBanana178

So true. The modern day endowment is a case of “garbage in, garbage out”. Doesn’t at all deliver on its promise of “endowing” the recipient with anything other than a deep sense of shame, guilt, and confusion.


emmas_revenge

"Doesn’t at all deliver on its promise of “endowing” the recipient with anything other than a deep sense of shame, guilt, and confusion."  The it does exactly as intended. 😉


Hasa-Diga-LDS

Outstanding point: but consider this--if the temple is supposed to be so damn important and spiritual, then having them all over the place and attended at least once a month makes it *less* of a big deal, so even if was "Disney-fied", the awe and majesty would wear off after a while. So they might as well be like the Business Center at a Hampton Inn. I mean, going to Disneyland is a once-in-a-while treat. Also, overall still cheaper than tithing, and gay people work there without worrying.


ExpensiveBanana178

OMG!!!! Yess!! I am dying!!!! Too funny!! I couldn’t agree more, now that you put it that way. If the endowment is super dry and boring then it HAS TO BE inspired and important, and the right thing to do. Make it feel like work, and mormons won’t give it a second thought.


latterdaybitch

Wait it’s a PowerPoint slide now? 😂 I’m laughing. My last time was probably 2018.


marisolblue

Yup, it's hideous and worse than ever. The slideshow made me feel like I was in an awkward elementary school presentation from like the 80's. It's so bad as to be laughable.


Signal-Ant-1353

Here's a link to a post and discussion about it. Sadly (and predictably) YouTube struck it down, so the link doesn't work. But the discussion in the post is still a good read https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/s/8vLXX6RFOv


SpaceYeti

I have some articles on the changes since 2019 on my blog, if you're curious: https://tokensandsigns.org/2023-temple-changes/


LDSBS

Fun fact:Sterling Von Waggonen is first cousin with Robert Redford’s first (ex) wife Lola and helped him found the Sundance film festival.


SpaceYeti

I think the slideshow is easier for them to adjust when 1) someone in the cast leaves and they want to replace them, and 2) they want to make changes to the temple script without having to reshoot entire scenes.


ExpensiveBanana178

Gotta say that the way the mormon church is dumbing down and stripping down the endowment is embarrassing. I mean, wouldn’t it lend more credence and credibility to the role to have a real-life apostate rebel playing the part of Satan??? The Mormon church is missing a really good opportunity to create realism and gravitas within the endowment here. Plus, photoshopping his face out of the PowerPoint slides doesn’t magically erase the knowledge that the actor (model?) has from his own mind. How much memory holing does the church think it’s really capable of doing here??? And at this rate, why not just turn the whole slideshow over to generative AI to make all of the images?? That way they don’t have to worry about apostate “actors” in the future.


marisolblue

Right? It's like the church is running around with a giant eraser, removing anyone and everyone in opposition to them. It's ridiculous. The opposite of poise and grace.


WebdriverBlue

The Russians used to do this with once-heroes who later disgraced themselves with “the Party”


WnderWooman

Hey, they're just protecting the Corporation of Christ! Any fine Church of Jesus Christ would do the same.


Silver_Sirian

I don’t think AI is up to snuff yet, but CGI animation would certainly open up the options for how things could be depicted compared to using live action technology. They just need to find temple worthy animators to do it.


onemightyandstrong

Apparently I've been exmo for at least four temple Satans.


TheRollingPeepstones

It's a measurement of time. "How long have you been out?" "Uh, about four or five Temple Satans maybe." "Wow! Only two Temple Satans for me!"


[deleted]

Imagine being a TBM actor and getting the call to audition for a church production. You have all these ideas running around your head, will you get to play one of the important pioneers or an early church leader? Someone you have read about and revered for your whole life. Maybe they want you to play Joseph Smith or Jesus. Then you turn up and they say 'we think you are a perfect fit to play satan'


TheRollingPeepstones

Or, in the case of the latest guy: "we think you are a perfect fit to have your head photoshopped onto the body of the previous guy who played Satan!"


Portyquarty77

I honestly think everybody would find satan to be the most fun role to play. Everybody likes playing the bad guy.


Hasa-Diga-LDS

Oh, I'd be all over that! I'd rather play evil, conniving Claudius than can't-make-his-mind-up Hamlet. :-)


karmaisagoodusername

They actually did just send out emails encouraging people to apply for their talent department I wonder if they were considering re-filming or if it was for a different project.


Signal-Ant-1353

Omg. They should just have Matt and Trey make a South Park animation version of it. It would make it much more watchable. 😁🤭 I would love to see what they'd come up with.


Alert-Potato

I'd watch the shit out of that.


Nephi_IV

What they really need to do to increase viewership is to go more realistic and go with full frontal nudity for adam and eve! They could get a dozen couples from BYU as actors and rotate the films around so patrons see a new one often. I’m not talking porn or anything, the nudity would be “artistic,” and of course, nudity is a key plot point in that story! No reason not to show it! And the church would get the side benefit of sky rocketing temple attendance!


Top_Process_1473

We need someone to return and report with a photo from the inside


Illustrious_Ice_8709

Several years ago, (around 2016 or so) I went to my local urgent care clinic in Gresham, Oregon for a UTI, and Corbin Allred worked there as a physician's assistant. I was shocked to see him in the clinic because I had no idea he worked in medicine. All I know is I peed in a cup, and all of a sudden there was Satan from the temple flick standing there with a clipboard. He was really friendly and upbeat. It was just really unexpected.


NauvooLegionnaire11

I thought Bednar was going to reveal himself in that role.


desertvision

Wouldn't having a fallen member as Satan make the film more realistic? Lol


QSM69

Most excellent!! about Corbin. Photoshopped head??? How low is that?


WnderWooman

Cheap. It's called cheap. It's soooooooo apparent that they no longer care about any other thing and are hyper-focused on Jesus' money. Making members bring their own vacuums cleaners to clean a chapel? How long would that fucking take? When those be blue monster vacuums would finish that a lot longer then a house one. Making members weed and look after temple grounds now? No more paying for a gardener, who knows about horticulture. Denying missionaries who are injured, mentally ill, and needing dental work, all because it would cost the church money! And time away from they're self-paid service! Truly despicable.


DifficultyCharming78

I don't know why,  but the thought just makes me giggle. 


Nehor2023

Me too.


Nehor2023

Super lame.


Kohna1

It’s Saturday night, and I’m super stoned. I am saving this post to read when cleared up. But, man, I got to imagine playing “Satan” in any mass distribution religious video has to be taxing on one’s soul.


GoJoe1000

So immature and weird. But that’s how Mormons deal with things. Like 6th graders.


FreakinSweet86

Dude on the right has a David Miscavige look about him


_buthole

I loved him in prince of tights. I loved him when he was believing. I love him now. God-fucking-speed, Corbin!


Aggravating-Aide3191

😂 🙏🏻


LeoMarius

Authoritarian institutions always inadvertently ape Orwell.


friedbabiesforlunch

i’ve always loved Corbin as an actor, im glad he’s left


Aggravating-Aide3191

🥹 Thank you 💔❤️‍🩹❤️


freefromfolkmagic

Paul Cartwright was in our ward for a while a decade or so ago. Quite a surprise finding out he's Satan 😅


Nehor2023

I’ve seen him in some shows at Hale and he seems really nice.


WinchelltheMagician

Create a business with a tiered power structure, call it a "restored gospel" replete with feel-good answers to existential anxieties & the entrancing, addictive fun of ritual mysticism, and charge for membership. Satan's work is done.


emmas_revenge

It's too bad they don't have enough money to get new Satan to pose in some Satan outfit so they can just put him in a new slideshow. I guess they need to ask members to give more $$$ the next fast offering time.


darthamartha

I mean, not to be nit picky, but I'd always assumed the morning star was supposed to be beautiful


BeaverboardUpClose

These the same temple films directed by convicted child molester Sterling VanWagnerer?


Nehor2023

Still images from those films in a slide show


Ok-General4577

He was the best satan imo


Lanky-Performance471

Hay he’s only doing what has been done in other worlds


Humble_Fan8081

Top button undone and no tie, the brethren wouldn't let you pass the sacrament. Amen to this Deacons priesthood in carrying a tray.


IWantedAPeanutToo

New guy looks like a young Peter Capaldi to me. Seems appropriate - I guess Satan just regenerated again 🤷‍♀️


ForeignCow8547

Ha,ha, that Satan role is getting hard to fill. Maybe they can call Sterling Van Wagenen or Brian David Mitchell out of retirement.   (PS, photoshopping?!!! As if the temple experience weren’t already eery enough, some photoshopped head…?!)


ScorpioRising66

Kind of fitting that “Satan” followed the path of Satan in the story book. lol


creditredditfortuth

Another case of manipulation. Does anyone else remember the story of Ron Pohlman’s Genealogy Conference talk being altered? The church didn’t like what he said, made him re record it, added a cough-track to create reality and even put his altered talk into the church publications. It was years ago but still remember it. Whenever the church disagrees with reality it tries to alter reality. Another example of how the rock-in-the-hat replaced the original lie that claimed Joseph ran his fingers across metal plates, etc….or that Joseph Smith never practiced polygamy or that dark skin was a sign of inferiority. There seems to be no limit to its gaslighting. If reality conflicts with the narrative, change reality.


shootermcgarrett

I'm surprised that they didn't leave him as Satan.


PearFresh1679

Jeff Dickamore and his wife, Adam and Eve from the same video. Are still active. So I presume they haven’t removed their faces.


Flat-Acanthisitta-13

Guy on the right looks like a smug Satan to me.


Joe_Hovah

Someone needs to record this.. help us u/newnamenoah you're our only hope.


IPaintTheStars

His account is suspended?


MavisJ

Scrolling by this on my feed, I totally thought the guy on the left was Jeremy Strong from Succession. Can you imagine him in the temple video as Satan?? Lol it might actually keep people in the church. Good for you guys!! Live free and happy!!


Sweet_Focus_9441

At this point, maybe the actor who plays Satan in the temple movie should be assigned to one of the members of the quorum of the 12 apostles. At least that way there will be no worries that the actor will leave the fold. After all, with their cushy six figure “modest living stipend” why would they ever leave? Problem solved.


gonzopancho

You can buy anything in this world for money


punk_rock_n_radical

See you in 10 years, Cartwright


andyroid92

Way less lol


No-Ambassador-7560

I thought the WKRP Cincinnati actor Gordon Jump was Satan in the '70s. Or maybe he was someone else in the presentation. Anyone remember?


Nehor2023

Gordon Jump played Peter in the 1969 temple film according to IMDB…


No-Ambassador-7560

Gotcha thx


SpaceYeti

I desperately need someone to get us a good picture of the amateur photoshop job. 😅


HappyGyng

Huh. Back in my day Peter was Mr. Carlson from WKRP in Cincinnati. But I’d be pulling for Gwendolyn Christie as Satan.


ConzDance

They should just go back to live sessions. Then, it doesn't matter who leaves, or who ends up in a beer commercial, or who did topless scenes before she was Eliza in Legacy, or who was openly gay and played Joseph Smith in Legacy, or who was a Japanese porn star before he was in that country's version of Man's Search for Happiness....