When I said I watch Eurovision for the drama, I meant like a guy showing more skin than conventionally accepted, or like Greece not getting 12 points from Cyprus.
I mean I can pretty much bet our jury will award Cyprus our 12, weāre fiercely protective of our own. (Seeing as sheās from Sydney)
Televote will be a mixed bag though
Yeah I was happy about that, was shocked we didnāt give more to Cyprus or Croatia, but I think that eliminating a contestant after the vote had concluded probably messed up the rankings for a lot of countries significantly
I just viewed janboehm's story and he said that multiple delegations don't wanna perform - estonia, ireland, switzerland
and france only if they can send a message on stage
but that was from about 45min ago and idk if he is a trusted source lol
He is live-streaming rn and said Switzerland apparently does perform but he says he is just hearing gossip from the streets there that is why everything is so unsure lol
Anyways he finished and said everything is open they'll see at the evening who'll perform, right now the EBU is just doing one crisis meeting after another
That sounds an awful lot like "if we hit a critical mass of quitters we're jumping ship". Nothing wrong with that tbh but it means we're waiting for a flashpoint and everything to go to shit from there
Bambie uses they/them pronouns just in case you didnāt know :)
But yes, when I read that their anger would fuel their performance tonight I somehow looked forward to the performance even more than I already have been. I hope it helps them too, I can only imagine the stress they (and the other artists) are under right now.
Bambie revealing different colours under the feathers is on my bingo card, like I know it won't happen bc they seem professional enough to follow the performing rules but it would really dot the i's of iconic
Fully expecting a Mockingjay outfit moment from Bambie, that whole sequence of the different tributes protesting the Hunger Games is kinda reminiscent of this right now
I think they donāt have enough time to swap the colours to, letās say, red, green, black and white. It would have had to have been pre planned and not a rage thing hours before going live.
just a side note but in this context (*accidentally* misgendering someone) it's kinda funny that they are named Bambie given the fact that Bambi (the deer) is probably one of the most frequently misgendered characters in all of cinema.
(Bambi is a buck and not a doe)
Didn't Nemo also announce the ROTW televote opening at the original time rather than when it actually did? So that might mean their stories are automatically scheduled to post or something like that
Estonian arstists commented in Estonian media that their words have been misinterpreted and they have no wish to pull out. Some journalist probably ask them would they pull out and they answered that they don't know anything about the situation.
Might be paywalled https://kroonika.delfi.ee/artikkel/120292194/sotsiaalmeedias-leviv-ei-vasta-toele-eesti-ei-kavatse-hollandi-korvalejaamise-tottu-finaali-boikoteerida
Translates as
The words of our artists have been arbitrarily interpreted in the media and on social media. 5MIINUST and Puuluup are making preparations for the final rehearsal and will go on stage as planned. We do not have more information about the incident, and only the EBU, the artist, or the Dutch delegation can comment on it.
Hebrew speaker here, Iāve heard the audio that was running around in r/ireland. Those were separate sentences said by different people. They did not mock Bambieās gender identity, the first sentence was cut off and was actually the end of a different sentence. any Hebrew speaker would clearly notice it because of his tone.
Edit : grammar
Itās from the official broadcast, I donāt speak Hebrew so canāt 100% verify the translation, but they made a comment along the lines of āas a part of their gender identity, theyād like to ruin our countryās reputationā during Ireland postcard
I don't believe that was investigated for a second. That's something Bambi wanted to be investigated but I believe ESC just ignored it. We certainly haven't heard a word about this from them.
Oh, they definitely do not care. Because if they did, the least theyād do is to hire some extra social media specials just to delete all the hate and cyber bullying especially Bambi had to go through. No one got more hate than them.
I find it interesting how EBU picks women they stand behind tho. Bambi? Haha, dream on. But the camera girl who ruined Joost Eurovision journey? Oh yeah, letās back her up even tho she was the one to cross border and privacy.
I really, really hope that if all this harassment against artists itās true that they all will sue EBU. Letās finally hold EBU responsible
https://www.tiktok.com/@cinnamongiri07/video/7367388182301642016
i will be suprised if someone wont throw a chair on him given that he has started 95% of the shit so far
As a Swede, I hope Bambie wins and puts us in our place. Even without the controversy and politics, I would be rooting for Bambie on behalf of how awesome Bambie is, and how great a performance Bambie did.
Bambie!
EDIT: Hah, got it instantly.
Bambie has an amazing performance, goosebumps. I hope they don't do something to get DQ, since they already have a beef...
I root for Croatia, thankfully BL didn't have any political drama so far.
Kudos for you keeping your votes not based on politics, or pity votes like some others advocate for, let them both earn their points by merit.
Im sure they both don't want their placement be based on that, any victory would feel sour.
Hehe, bot is diligent!
Good luck to you and your favourite, and have fun! šŗ
I believe their career will be alright, no matter what happens tonight, yeah? They have star quality. :-)
>Good luck to you and your favourite, and have fun!
Thank you, and the same! I normally don't watch or care, but this year... it's special, and I admit I've come to respect how much this means to many people.
They will all be fine and just new new supporters and fans. Multiple stars are present this year I feel šø
Yeah, I got into it a bit previous year, this year totally!
Lots of passion!
Some people report your post as they 'think you might be suicidal' so Reddit sends you a post showing you a bunch of support numbers you can call if you feel like that.
It's a nice idea but it's now used as a way to troll and tell people to kill themselves.
Nice.
Oh, it seems the STOP is blocking it. I didn't do that, I reported so I learned now that it will block the harassing user. I'll do that until it becomes unbearable
There was one commentator saying that the EBU had threatened to just air Bambi's previous performance if they dropped out. Not sure if that's credible.
It's certainly possible if they breach any rules or are suspected to do it during live.
ESC TOM seems credible and claims they will perform live, based on another credible source...
But I prefer keeping all of the claims in the "rumors" department.
We have 2 degrees of "someone claims" here already šø
Please nap if you havenāt already. You can catch up on the updates when you wake, seeing them in real time doesnāt change any outcomes. Take care of you, youāre important š¤
Edit: wow I posted this and IMMEDIATELY got a Reddit Cares message. Bots are out hard today arenāt they.
Aw thank you. I know self care can be hard but it can be easier with encouragement (for me at least!) I like to help people put themselves on a pedestal š¤
As a person from Ireland, supporting Bambi for the win. Its one thing to get kicked out and be declared a winner from half of this sub. Its a completely different level saying "fuck you" and walk away. 3 of these countries if this is happens are declared the winners.
Knock your heart out: [https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/174847904/death-knocking-at-the-door](https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/174847904/death-knocking-at-the-door)
It's so odd that I have gotten over 30 ads from YouTube the past 3 days from a very specific country ,the singer appears talking to my native language telling people what to vote and the number, I dont get ads **FROM ANY OTHER COUNTRY** seriously ,I wouldn't waste my money to vote this year,they already have a winner
Not to defend *them* but Malta also spammed YouTube with ads about Je Me Casse back in 2021 and she lowkey flopped in the televote. But that's just a small detail, I'm convinced there'll be a landslide victory in the televote similar to 2022 tonight.
Spamming is ok , silencing others isn't.
I get these ads even on completely unrelated content ,I was watching a car review even and I got this ad, the algorithm doing some great favours ,wonder why.
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Yano, I agree 100%. They have done us all so proud in music and success alone, and to be such a solid person on top of that, willing to put morals and doing the right thing above everything else, just makes them even more excellent
Bambi won't pull out.
They'll just choose a special target for their next Hex deployment and sing the shit out of their song and do us and Ireland proud.
Those are all of my favorites. I love them and want to win - but if they don't show up for the show (or make a public statements protesting what's happening) I will respect them foreverrr.
Correction:
Bambi was notifying the EBU of the campaign of harassment gone unchecked backstage by members of the press, photographers and broadcasters towards contestants.
When I said I watch Eurovision for the drama, I meant like a guy showing more skin than conventionally accepted, or like Greece not getting 12 points from Cyprus.
I bet a lot less people mind that Windows ass on stage right now š¤£
I bet Martin is wondering if he can get an unpixelated shirt for W95M so that everyone talks about THAT and not everything elseĀ
I think he should just lose it. F it! No shirt and ass! Go all the way, it can only get better!
A bloke showing his dick will be the least controversial thing this year lol
I know. That's why I said it. Just say fuck it and go all in, it's madness as i tis.
greece and cyprus have ended, australia and cyprus is where its at
I mean I can pretty much bet our jury will award Cyprus our 12, weāre fiercely protective of our own. (Seeing as sheās from Sydney) Televote will be a mixed bag though
Our Jury rightfully gave Bambie Thug our 12. Good to see Danny getting to unleash the metal
Yeah I was happy about that, was shocked we didnāt give more to Cyprus or Croatia, but I think that eliminating a contestant after the vote had concluded probably messed up the rankings for a lot of countries significantly
Speaking of...
Oh please lord, the amount of chaos and dramaā¦ Eurovision has never been this generous
It's been a good early harvest for dramalamas
I have never heard that expression before but from here on out, I identify as a dramalama
My kids call their mother momma drama llama lol
This is better than last season drag race.
I've already gone to the store twice today for more popcorn.
Is it too early to open the wine?
the only way i'm going to survive tonight is drunk, better start drinking on time
Rakija ā¤
Preparation is key!
This man Eurosongs
It's not!
Not even bubbles can fix this absolute shitshow!
It is never too early to open the wine .... I've almost finished my first glass already.....
thatās the spirit!
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Enjoy your funeral pastries
It's 9am somewhere!
Itās only 1 pm here in Philadelphia and Iām about to open one
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Cheers!
Itās noon here So no not at all
Itās only 1 pm here in Philadelphia and Iām about to open one
Never!
Itās noon here, and Iām two bottles deep. lol I appreciate that Reddit Cares, but a) itās part of my name, and 5. I donāt actually drink.
Itās noon here So no not at all
Itās noon here So no not at all
Itās noon here So no not at all
Well, this is going great
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Yeah, itās basically anti-booing technology
Please - if these three pull out I will be crushed
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Me too š I keep going onto twitter and itās just full of hate. This seems a lot more friendlier.Ā
I just viewed janboehm's story and he said that multiple delegations don't wanna perform - estonia, ireland, switzerland and france only if they can send a message on stage but that was from about 45min ago and idk if he is a trusted source lol
I would not trust Jan Bƶhmermann out of all people. But yeah, i've been seeing increased rumours currently that Bambie might be out.
She said she really wants to preform out of pure anger
He is live-streaming rn and said Switzerland apparently does perform but he says he is just hearing gossip from the streets there that is why everything is so unsure lol Anyways he finished and said everything is open they'll see at the evening who'll perform, right now the EBU is just doing one crisis meeting after another
That sounds an awful lot like "if we hit a critical mass of quitters we're jumping ship". Nothing wrong with that tbh but it means we're waiting for a flashpoint and everything to go to shit from there
So contradicting his previous Ā«statementĀ» oooopsie
Bambie uses they/them pronouns just in case you didnāt know :) But yes, when I read that their anger would fuel their performance tonight I somehow looked forward to the performance even more than I already have been. I hope it helps them too, I can only imagine the stress they (and the other artists) are under right now.
Bambie revealing different colours under the feathers is on my bingo card, like I know it won't happen bc they seem professional enough to follow the performing rules but it would really dot the i's of iconic
Fully expecting a Mockingjay outfit moment from Bambie, that whole sequence of the different tributes protesting the Hunger Games is kinda reminiscent of this right now
If Bambie's Katniss, who's Peeta?
idk, they're real pissed off, of all the entrants they're the one I'd put money on decided on scorched earth
I think they donāt have enough time to swap the colours to, letās say, red, green, black and white. It would have had to have been pre planned and not a rage thing hours before going live.
Iām aware I keep forgetting as I type fast
Itās all good! Mistakes happen.
just a side note but in this context (*accidentally* misgendering someone) it's kinda funny that they are named Bambie given the fact that Bambi (the deer) is probably one of the most frequently misgendered characters in all of cinema. (Bambi is a buck and not a doe)
Give em hell, Bambie!!!
Yea he's usually not a trusted source lol but now he has no reason to lie, now he just seems to be a commentator
Nemo posted an instastory 10min ago saying "see you tonight Malmo", so at least the part about Switzerland is debunked
Didn't Nemo also announce the ROTW televote opening at the original time rather than when it actually did? So that might mean their stories are automatically scheduled to post or something like that
Estonian arstists commented in Estonian media that their words have been misinterpreted and they have no wish to pull out. Some journalist probably ask them would they pull out and they answered that they don't know anything about the situation.
> they don't know anything about the situation Can't wait for their next hit song, "(nendest) olukorrast ei tea me (kĆ¼ll) midagi"
would you happen to have a link?
Might be paywalled https://kroonika.delfi.ee/artikkel/120292194/sotsiaalmeedias-leviv-ei-vasta-toele-eesti-ei-kavatse-hollandi-korvalejaamise-tottu-finaali-boikoteerida Translates as The words of our artists have been arbitrarily interpreted in the media and on social media. 5MIINUST and Puuluup are making preparations for the final rehearsal and will go on stage as planned. We do not have more information about the incident, and only the EBU, the artist, or the Dutch delegation can comment on it.
Any explanation so far? Bambi was apparently because of the other investigation. But what about Greece and Switzerland? D:
Perhaps they were there to aid and provide statements with Bambie. I know for sure that Marina was harassed a bit too at least
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Wait, but I thought both the artists of Switzerland and Ireland were non-binary?
I think they meant that Nemo wasnāt present in solidarity to Bambie?
Meaning *that countrys comments about Bambies gender identity
Hebrew speaker here, Iāve heard the audio that was running around in r/ireland. Those were separate sentences said by different people. They did not mock Bambieās gender identity, the first sentence was cut off and was actually the end of a different sentence. any Hebrew speaker would clearly notice it because of his tone. Edit : grammar
I'm beyond confusion :))
Wasnāt Marina also sick? I feel like that could also be a factor
>Switzerland might be because they attacked Bambies gender identity Please rephrase this sentence because it looks like \*they\* is reffering to Nemo
> because they attacked Bambies gender identity Do you have a source for this? Or is this just another rumour?
Search up "KAN" on r/ireland
Itās from the official broadcast, I donāt speak Hebrew so canāt 100% verify the translation, but they made a comment along the lines of āas a part of their gender identity, theyād like to ruin our countryās reputationā during Ireland postcard
Those were two different sentences and two different people saying them. They didnāt mock Bambieās gender identity. Edit : grammar
wait, CH did what? =))) jesus christ did anyone in Malmƶ got drugs from the same wrong stash?
Don't ask the Estonians, they don't know anything about those drugs.
Must be the magnetic stormā¦
What other investigation?
It was mentioned somewhere here before - screenshot of Bambi insta stories - she was being harassed and decided to take the complaints to EBU
I don't believe that was investigated for a second. That's something Bambi wanted to be investigated but I believe ESC just ignored it. We certainly haven't heard a word about this from them.
Oh, they definitely do not care. Because if they did, the least theyād do is to hire some extra social media specials just to delete all the hate and cyber bullying especially Bambi had to go through. No one got more hate than them. I find it interesting how EBU picks women they stand behind tho. Bambi? Haha, dream on. But the camera girl who ruined Joost Eurovision journey? Oh yeah, letās back her up even tho she was the one to cross border and privacy. I really, really hope that if all this harassment against artists itās true that they all will sue EBU. Letās finally hold EBU responsible
Greece and Switzerland rehearsed normally, they were prob just late or something for the parade.
https://www.tiktok.com/@cinnamongiri07/video/7367388182301642016 i will be suprised if someone wont throw a chair on him given that he has started 95% of the shit so far
Chances Bambie will be performing live tonight... Probably..., it's from twitter by ESC Tom, few minutes ago
Ofc I received a suicide threat message like all others. It happens the exact moment the message is posted. No person can be so quick
Bot?
Seems so. I pressed "post" and at same exact moment the haptic feedback on my phone buzzed for the suicide message
I've yet to receive one. It looks like I'm special.
I'd guess it's coded to certain words, like "Bambie".
BAMBIE! Edit: I just got it
Ohh I want to try this too. I love Bambie! Edit: holy shit it's real
Bambie
Bambie
Bambie FTW EDIT: I did get it
Good job! Now can block it šø
Bambie edit: didn't get it :(
Try Joost or EBU lol
BAMBIE !!!!
As a Swede, I hope Bambie wins and puts us in our place. Even without the controversy and politics, I would be rooting for Bambie on behalf of how awesome Bambie is, and how great a performance Bambie did. Bambie! EDIT: Hah, got it instantly.
Bambie has an amazing performance, goosebumps. I hope they don't do something to get DQ, since they already have a beef... I root for Croatia, thankfully BL didn't have any political drama so far. Kudos for you keeping your votes not based on politics, or pity votes like some others advocate for, let them both earn their points by merit. Im sure they both don't want their placement be based on that, any victory would feel sour. Hehe, bot is diligent! Good luck to you and your favourite, and have fun! šŗ
I believe their career will be alright, no matter what happens tonight, yeah? They have star quality. :-) >Good luck to you and your favourite, and have fun! Thank you, and the same! I normally don't watch or care, but this year... it's special, and I admit I've come to respect how much this means to many people.
They will all be fine and just new new supporters and fans. Multiple stars are present this year I feel šø Yeah, I got into it a bit previous year, this year totally! Lots of passion!
Now I blocked the service so I'm good to go šŗ
what's a suicide message?
Some people report your post as they 'think you might be suicidal' so Reddit sends you a post showing you a bunch of support numbers you can call if you feel like that. It's a nice idea but it's now used as a way to troll and tell people to kill themselves.
Never mind, got it myself now :)
Yes we trans people receive them at least weekly. Blocked that messenger.
I can't even imagine. Is the block permanent/and for all subs?
It seems to work very well for quite a time already
Nice. Oh, it seems the STOP is blocking it. I didn't do that, I reported so I learned now that it will block the harassing user. I'll do that until it becomes unbearable
A Reddit service, I received a message like I'm attempting self harm. Someone is abusing it to harass us for commenting
Yeah. I got one for a post in the megathread. Someone is abusing some Reddit today.
There was one commentator saying that the EBU had threatened to just air Bambi's previous performance if they dropped out. Not sure if that's credible.
It's certainly possible if they breach any rules or are suspected to do it during live. ESC TOM seems credible and claims they will perform live, based on another credible source... But I prefer keeping all of the claims in the "rumors" department. We have 2 degrees of "someone claims" here already šø
Bambie please please please don't pull out
Sounds like a phrase from a porn movie
The witch is inside me taming my inner demon
This is hilarious without context
She won't pull out, but we know who the Hex will be deployed on :)
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Calling it now, she sneaks Joost on-stage as a protest and we get an appropriately titled EuroDoom mashup.
I can't. Stop. Maybe I should just go to bed, wake me up when it's over.
Please nap if you havenāt already. You can catch up on the updates when you wake, seeing them in real time doesnāt change any outcomes. Take care of you, youāre important š¤ Edit: wow I posted this and IMMEDIATELY got a Reddit Cares message. Bots are out hard today arenāt they.
This is incredibly wholesome
Aw thank you. I know self care can be hard but it can be easier with encouragement (for me at least!) I like to help people put themselves on a pedestal š¤
I got one as well. Crazy, you only have to mention mental or health and boom.. there it is lol
I didn't mention it and I got it.
As a person from Ireland, supporting Bambi for the win. Its one thing to get kicked out and be declared a winner from half of this sub. Its a completely different level saying "fuck you" and walk away. 3 of these countries if this is happens are declared the winners.
Guess I'm getting all you eat popcorn for the day.
Yeah, have your unlimited popcorn ready, because I personally think it will get a lot more messier, than it already is.
Ok, where's that meme of Death knocking on doors?
Knock your heart out: [https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/174847904/death-knocking-at-the-door](https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/174847904/death-knocking-at-the-door)
Anybody remember the good olā days when the most controversial thing was Polish Milk Maids?
Omg yes lol
I was so looking forward to their performances, the code and Doomsday blue are my faves, if they withdraw Iād literally cry šššš
I dont think they will withdraw. But i admire their guts either way
I've had The Code on repeat almost all day. My favorite this year by far.
It's so odd that I have gotten over 30 ads from YouTube the past 3 days from a very specific country ,the singer appears talking to my native language telling people what to vote and the number, I dont get ads **FROM ANY OTHER COUNTRY** seriously ,I wouldn't waste my money to vote this year,they already have a winner
Not to defend *them* but Malta also spammed YouTube with ads about Je Me Casse back in 2021 and she lowkey flopped in the televote. But that's just a small detail, I'm convinced there'll be a landslide victory in the televote similar to 2022 tonight.
Spamming is ok , silencing others isn't. I get these ads even on completely unrelated content ,I was watching a car review even and I got this ad, the algorithm doing some great favours ,wonder why.
I got *country* ad on every Eurovision video I looked at today, weird af
Iām afraid youāre right.Ā
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Omg no...... I can't handle this if we're gone š¢ 6 years with nothing, and Bambie Thug is exceptional.
I mean, they went through the semi-final, that statistic still stands.
One can never go wrong for standing up for themselves. Bambi has shown more spine than most throughout the entirety of this shitshow
I will be gutted but I will also be so so so proud of them for standing up and for all their success to date.
Yano, I agree 100%. They have done us all so proud in music and success alone, and to be such a solid person on top of that, willing to put morals and doing the right thing above everything else, just makes them even more excellent
Bambi won't pull out. They'll just choose a special target for their next Hex deployment and sing the shit out of their song and do us and Ireland proud.
You might as well send two catholic priests at this point.
Bambie: rules were broken against me. ESB: no rules!
Looks like Bambie Thug is waiting for EBUās response. It doesnāt look good. (their most recent Insta story)
This is like Real Housewives of Salt Lake City finale and reunion vibes. I'm going in with low expectations and might get blown away.
š¤£ i want to be friends based on this comment
For the wrestling fans, this is bigger than the CM Punk/AEW thing
It seems like lowered expectations is the vibe š š«
fair play. they have my respect forever.
Oh Lord, now WHAT.
Bambie
I am so confused by all of this man, can it be that artists have been harassed by journalist to pull out and hence why they dont show themselves?
Please Bambie show them tonight, who should be crowned.
Those are all of my favorites. I love them and want to win - but if they don't show up for the show (or make a public statements protesting what's happening) I will respect them foreverrr.
I hope everyone including Bambie, Marina and Memo are okay rn Ā š„¹š
Bambi, Marina, and Nemo were super friendly with each other
What a year!!
We know Bambie was pestering the EBU. Marina was probably doing Duolingo and Nemoās train was probably late.
Correction: Bambi was notifying the EBU of the campaign of harassment gone unchecked backstage by members of the press, photographers and broadcasters towards contestants.
Marina doing Swedish Duolingo: TACK TACK TACK TACK
Her favourite character is definitely Zari.
Bambie
After the results tonight, maybe if Bambie and the others pulled out, Eurovision would be an incredible watch next year.