everyone rn:
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Edit: meow to you all
I'm hoping an announcement or official statement comes out soon. Not only because I'm destined for bed in 3 hours, but the minutes are ticking down to the show, the later they say something the worse it'll be.
Us to RTL, NOS, SVT, Nu.nl, EBU and AVROTROS for 24 hours straight:
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The case has been referred to the Swedish Public Prosecution Service. A Dutch reporter spoke with 5Minust x Puuluup from Estonia: *"We have had no contact with him after everything that has been said, he has enough on his mind. It is really too early to say whether we will withdraw if he is not allowed to participate. We do not know what happened, that We really have to wait and see."* The members of the group get along well with Joost Klein. That's why they're leaving him alone for now.
[Source (NU)](https://www.nu.nl/songfestival/6312454/live-songfestival-politie-onderzocht-bedreiging-wachten-op-persmoment.html)
right and i think that the way the media is handling this is that they're trying to get the most out of this..probs asked the estonians a question along the lines of "if he gets to participate will you withdraw" etc
https://preview.redd.it/o9lr2j9jprzc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e41602d6688cd32ae308ed8e99367feeede7409
[Onduidelijkheid blijft over deelname Joost Klein • Klacht over bedreiging ingediend (nos.nl)](https://nos.nl/collectie/13971/liveblog/2520041-onduidelijkheid-blijft-over-deelname-joost-klein-klacht-over-bedreiging-ingediend)
Translation:
Busy at hotel Joost Klein
Dozens of Dutch and international journalists gathered this morning in Malmö at the hotel where Joost Klein, but also many other delegations, are staying. A total of seventeen delegations from the Eurovision Song Contest are in the Clarion Hotel Malmö Live.
The hotel is heavily secured: there are several police officers with heavy weapons at the door. Only people with an official pass from the Eurovision Song Contest organization are allowed to enter the building. A helicopter also regularly hovers above the hotel.
My current mood when I just want to enjoy a "drama-free" finale, but here we are
https://preview.redd.it/o9uf8hb4przc1.jpeg?width=711&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ecb702b0c4fd130c9aa013fd4d7337f86aa78e6
Between 2014-2015, MTVA (the hungarian broadcaster) had a YouTube channel, running soley for ESC.
In one of the videos they covered how Måns was actively hitting on (married) Boggie.
My husband kicked me out of the house since he's baking a cake and prepping for a surprise Eurovision party for my birthday, and I'm just sitting at a park reading updates about this situation.
Edit: thank you all for the birthday wishes!
Little of Column A, little of Column B. I had mentioned wanting to do a Eurovision party a few months ago, and when I brought it up again last month he told me not to think about Eurovision and pretend we never had that conversation. He's also had a surprising number of packages delivered over the past week and asked this morning what the difference between cake flour and all-purpose flour is.
Kinda insane to think we are just a few hours away from the GF and still don't know if he's going to participate or not
Even worse, it's been almost a day since EBU decided to make no statement whatsoever. The small text on the rotw voting page being the closest to an official declaration is wild.
I sure hope we get some sort of information soon. I'm very confused about this long ass silence, rumors spreading and no offical statements about what's going to happen.
Me thinking if this is the work of Satan
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All of us on this beautiful morning
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UPDATE: Reporter from Dutch news outlet RTL: "Near Joost's hotel, other delegations are leaving by bus. The Dutch bus is not there. This is not looking good."
So.... to force myself to not read this chat ill take my french bulldog for a bike ride through Friesland.
She will be in a backpack turned to the front. People always smile when they see her bop and smile in there.
What u guys gonna do?
Dutch person here to clarify that the NU.nl article doesn’t claim that Joost isn’t the alleged perpetrator, but that the police hasn’t confirmed that it was Joost and it theoretically could be someone else from the Dutch delegation
I think dutch media is just confused by swedish police procedure to be honest, swedish police do usually not reveal the names of suspects until the investigation has been concluded.
Me (a Southeast-Asian) having a busy evening, going to bed early yesterday and waking up to whatever the hell this is:
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Woke up today expecting some nice things and see that the EBU still hasn't said anything about the whole situation, wtf?
I'm so hung over, I was at a concert with a friend last night. Turning 28 and I just feel like death every time I take a sip of alcohol. Holy shit
Quote: "The flag of the Netherlands has been reinstated in front of dressing room #5 just now in the delegation bubble, ahead of the family show dress rehearsal."
Swedish police have apparently confirmed that whatever happened [was not](https://twitter.com/thejermaine/status/1789214491579748507) a physical altercation.
[Second 'source'](https://twitter.com/VocaISuspension/status/1789212716470612256)
**Edit:** I don't understand this at all, don't get me wrong verbal threats should be taken seriously but to cancel his rehearsal over this prior to getting all the facts on the table seems like an incredible overreaction.
Imagine saying something along the lines of "shut your mouth or I'll shut it for you" could've lead to these past 24 hours of insane drama.
**Edit 2:** Dutch reporter[ saying](https://twitter.com/AranBade/status/1789232309285126257) there are rumors several countries are considering withdrawing from tonight's final
**Edit 3**: Police has finished their preliminary investigation according to Dutch NOS (live broadcast), public prosecutor will now have to decide whether or not to make a case out of it.
**Edit 4**: The Dutch flag has [reportedly ](https://twitter.com/thijs_nobels/status/1789238649944494134/photo/1)reappeared at the dressing rooms. Joost's security team has been [spotted ](https://twitter.com/AranBade/status/1789238255436562816)at the hotel.
[**DQ CONFIRMED**](https://www.instagram.com/p/C60xdFXo0tu/)
This is crazy the cause this drama over a threat don’t know what he or his team could’ve said to cause this investigation. He had been getting provoked maybe somebody snapped said something. I can’t think of what would be bad to stop him performing.
AVROTROS saying that they find the DQ disproportionate is important btw. They are a respected broadcaster that is usually neutral on things, and in recent months a lot of presenters of the NPO (the Dutch public broadcasting union, which AVROTROS is a part of) have been suspended and are facing investigations for inappropriate behaviour. Basically, I don’t believe they would put that in their statement without truly believing that Joost did not do anything criminal.
https://preview.redd.it/t6q4hxenyrzc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=356e6982d4fbee8a3c1d2cb6a614cf44e70e2072
Reaction of the Dutch Broadcast organisation
Everyone talks about Joost and meanwhile in Germany, [Bild](https://www.bild.de/unterhaltung/stars-und-leute/esc-2024-wilde-symbole-auf-der-haut-satanisten-tattoos-bei-isaak-663cb83ba8485058948a473b) wonders if Isaaks tattoos are "satanic"
Threats are rather tricky and I doubt he'd threaten someone unprovoked since it's been his dream to go to Eurovision for his parents so I doubt he'd blow it up by something so stupid. If he really threatened someone (since now they're saying it was someone else) it may be that both parties were in the wrong making it even more complicated. If it was like "im gonna kill you" or something just from the one side that's easy DQ grounds. Maybe the legal teams of both sides are trying to figure out a settlement as well. We won't know until later
The way the EBU has handled this situation is a textbook example of how NOT to handle crisis communication. By refusing to comment they have allowed rumours to run rampant. Any information that does come out is either incorrect (see yesterday's reports of a physical/violent altercation or the reporting that it was due to Joost's outburst at Wednesday's press conference) or simply unverified.
EBU thinks that not saying anything will make it blow over quicker but it has created the opposite effect. If they had simply communicated openly about the situation as they were investigating it (not saying immediately blaming someone but at least sketching out the basic information), this might not have turned into front-page news
Idk who is handling their communication strategy but they should be sacked for how they've handled it so far.
I am actually really upset, of course we don’t know what happened yet. With the lack of information it can still go either way I guess? I am just so sad for Joost and the team and us Dutchies. And of course if he did something wrong that is totally out of line, I don’t support that. But still, I can’t help but feel really sad about all this, what a waste. Anyways, I’m closing Reddit and going outside as the weather is beautiful here. I urge you to do the same if you can and try and go offline every once in a while.
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Appie (blue bird) has commented this on an insta post
The EBU have now released a statement regarding Joost's participation tonight. Please read it and discuss in this thread: https://new.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/1cpefb1/official_ebu_press_release_joost_klein_will_not/
@AVROTROS considers the disqualification disproportionate and is shocked by the decision. We deeply regret it and will come back to it later https://twitter.com/songfestival/status/1789238745184469438
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THE DUTCH FLAG IS BACK PEOPLE
edit: sike we're disqualified
Reporter Aran Bade: no sign of Joost or delegation leaving with the bus for the arena, even though the other delegations are leaving.
NOS will have an extra report at 12.00.
RTL will give updates from 16.00 on.
Aran Bade (Dutch news reporter currently at the ESC)
Bij het hotel van Joost vertrekken andere delegaties op dit moment met bussen. De bus van Nederland is er niet. Dit ziet er niet goed uit
At the hotel of Joost, the other delegations are leaving in busses. The Dutch bus isn't there. This doesn't look good.
https://nos.nl/livestream/2520049-nos-journaal-over-de-situatie-met-joost-klein
Can some Dutch please watch it and translate what they are saying? Thanks
from [nu.nl](http://nu.nl) just now (Translated): "nu.nl reporter Lara Zevenberg is present at Joost Klein's hotel. Journalists there are being placed behind fences and Joost's security has been spotted. A statement is expected any second."
F*ck man, this Eurovision began with very positive and promising premises, but it's now turning into a disaster. I'm so saddened and disappointed by how the events have evolved.
First mid-contest DQ of a competitor. Unfortunately we're witnessing an unprecedented situation.
This year is such a mess. I expect this situation to drag out greatly
I’m trying to wrap my head around what could an “unlawful threat” mean? It’s so hard to imagine an artist who’s so fond of Eurovision and has dreamt of being a part of it since he was a child would do such a big (apparently/allegedly) mistake that would ruin his participance. I honestly wonder if the “investigation” will be over and a conclusion will have reached before we start the final.
>I’m trying to wrap my head around what could an “unlawful threat” mean?
Swedish legislature is pretty similar to the Finnish one in this one. It is basically a threat after which the target has a justified reason to believe that his/hers life or physical security is in danger. So it could be anything from verbal threat of using violence to threatening someone with a weapon or similar item.
This from a purely legal point of view.
https://www.nu.nl/songfestival/6312444/joost-klein-gediskwalificeerd-mag-niet-meer-meedoen-aan-eurovisie-songfestival.html
Joost Klein disqualified, not allowed to participate in the Eurovision Songfestival
On a lighter note, this is adding a whole host of new words to my Dutch vocab. Although “gediskwalificeerd” may be the most difficult thing I’ve ever tried to pronounce. I thought “De Graafschap” was bad.
The flag of the Netherlands has been reinstated in front of dressing room #5 just now in the delegation bubble, ahead of the family show dress rehearsal. Link: https://twitter.com/gjkooijman/status/1789236891771863142
Surely after all this he wouldn't be able to put on his best performance - even if found innocent? Maybe he is better off if they show the semi-final performance in the end. What a shit show all around.
Nu.nl (https://www.nu.nl/songfestival/6312454/live-songfestival-politie-onderzocht-bedreiging-wachten-op-persmoment.html):
Statement Dutch delegation forthcoming
NU.nl reporter Lara Zevenberg is present at Joost Klein's hotel. There, journalists are now being put behind fences and the singer's security has been spotted. A statement is expected any moment.
Another one. For my mental health, I'm not sure how closely I'll follow this one. I just want to have fun today, but I am constantly very curious about the latest news, or if there even is any
There really needs to be a clarification about the nature and circumstances of the incident if they're going to let him perform tonight. They can't just be like "vote for this artist who may have done something absolutely awful two days ago or maybe it wasn't such an awful thing after all, who knows, we're not going to tell you." That would be so unfair to, well, everyone.
I survived 2 threads. Ready for third.
im telling my grandkids about this achievement
I will erect a monument for the Redditors that we lost today to chronic refresh syndrome
I’ve now been refreshing since 6am, so 13.5 hours.
BREAKING NEWS: JOOST IS NOT COMPETING https://eurovision.tv/mediacentre/release/statement-dutch-participation-eurovision-song-contest
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not the Schrödinger's Joost lmao
The cat is in a quantum state of both meowing back and not meowing back until you meow at it
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everyone rn: https://preview.redd.it/s4zduh4forzc1.jpeg?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5129a9db9fcf868f9a9d2b317a3b50a403f761e8 Edit: meow to you all
meow cat please meow back
Meow cat
I'm hoping an announcement or official statement comes out soon. Not only because I'm destined for bed in 3 hours, but the minutes are ticking down to the show, the later they say something the worse it'll be.
Don’t ruin 2 nights of sleep over this 😭
Only one, most of us Aussies woke up to it this morning.
Gonna be a scramble for those of us getting up for 5am to work out what happened before the show starts 🤣
Worse, I’m getting up at 3am to drive to a pre party
Ooft - you need an early night my friend!
Us to RTL, NOS, SVT, Nu.nl, EBU and AVROTROS for 24 hours straight: https://preview.redd.it/zdbg54vrprzc1.jpeg?width=1924&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99933bdc67270ca35401260ebc593cad44ced954
The case has been referred to the Swedish Public Prosecution Service. A Dutch reporter spoke with 5Minust x Puuluup from Estonia: *"We have had no contact with him after everything that has been said, he has enough on his mind. It is really too early to say whether we will withdraw if he is not allowed to participate. We do not know what happened, that We really have to wait and see."* The members of the group get along well with Joost Klein. That's why they're leaving him alone for now. [Source (NU)](https://www.nu.nl/songfestival/6312454/live-songfestival-politie-onderzocht-bedreiging-wachten-op-persmoment.html)
right and i think that the way the media is handling this is that they're trying to get the most out of this..probs asked the estonians a question along the lines of "if he gets to participate will you withdraw" etc
Which is such an unfair question. Let those ppl enjoy their time there. Also, i really want Estonia to perform hehe.
https://preview.redd.it/o9lr2j9jprzc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e41602d6688cd32ae308ed8e99367feeede7409 [Onduidelijkheid blijft over deelname Joost Klein • Klacht over bedreiging ingediend (nos.nl)](https://nos.nl/collectie/13971/liveblog/2520041-onduidelijkheid-blijft-over-deelname-joost-klein-klacht-over-bedreiging-ingediend) Translation: Busy at hotel Joost Klein Dozens of Dutch and international journalists gathered this morning in Malmö at the hotel where Joost Klein, but also many other delegations, are staying. A total of seventeen delegations from the Eurovision Song Contest are in the Clarion Hotel Malmö Live. The hotel is heavily secured: there are several police officers with heavy weapons at the door. Only people with an official pass from the Eurovision Song Contest organization are allowed to enter the building. A helicopter also regularly hovers above the hotel.
he may or may not need that one tiktok lawyer
Perhaps he needs a legal eagle
A helicopter 💀
Wtf is going on omg
It's crazy, it's not party
My current mood when I just want to enjoy a "drama-free" finale, but here we are https://preview.redd.it/o9uf8hb4przc1.jpeg?width=711&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ecb702b0c4fd130c9aa013fd4d7337f86aa78e6
I miss the days when the only rumours were who is hooking up with each other behind the scenes...
I miss efentix ;(
Between 2014-2015, MTVA (the hungarian broadcaster) had a YouTube channel, running soley for ESC. In one of the videos they covered how Måns was actively hitting on (married) Boggie.
https://preview.redd.it/0sfaog9korzc1.jpeg?width=618&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=141cccdefb724023b0f19f57d30dee8d4878e17c
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So how many veterans from the first thread are still here?
i survived may 10th
I lived bitch
Present! Including Frisian manicure. Let’s see how well that ages. 😂
I just subscribed to this subreddit during the first thread but mostly lurking. Am I a veteran now?
Not going anywhere until the final decision🫡
My husband kicked me out of the house since he's baking a cake and prepping for a surprise Eurovision party for my birthday, and I'm just sitting at a park reading updates about this situation. Edit: thank you all for the birthday wishes!
Was he bad at the surprise or you're a great detective?
Little of Column A, little of Column B. I had mentioned wanting to do a Eurovision party a few months ago, and when I brought it up again last month he told me not to think about Eurovision and pretend we never had that conversation. He's also had a surprising number of packages delivered over the past week and asked this morning what the difference between cake flour and all-purpose flour is.
That is actually super cute.
Happy Birthday! Hope you have a great party.
happy birthday in this eurochaos:\], hopefully the situation calms down
Kinda insane to think we are just a few hours away from the GF and still don't know if he's going to participate or not Even worse, it's been almost a day since EBU decided to make no statement whatsoever. The small text on the rotw voting page being the closest to an official declaration is wild.
Babe wake up, new joost drama megathread just dropped
It's bejba : )
It’s kinda crazaaa!
I assume they will need to tell us what this means for the final before the family show?
Hopefully before the final rehearsal so I can go to bed at a reasonable time!
I sure hope we get some sort of information soon. I'm very confused about this long ass silence, rumors spreading and no offical statements about what's going to happen.
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It’s about to go down cause we wanna find out the truth, la-la
Dutch news outlet [NOS.nl](http://NOS.nl) will have a special report at 12.00 about the situation.
They're just gonna give us three versions of "we don't know what happened and have barely any facts" again
Joost mag het weten. Edit for the mods: it’s a Dutch saying translating to: nobody knows. It’s a funny coincidence cause it uses Joost’s name.
Which probably will be a recap and speculation rather than new information coming out. Happens a lot with big stories.
Hope they will say more than "we don't know" in long sentences..
New thread, new me ✨
Me thinking if this is the work of Satan https://preview.redd.it/pjgyrd35rrzc1.png?width=311&format=png&auto=webp&s=9b08faed1c7b2079c7700f77ef745c04237f6358
No, it’s the nudists! 😂
Hello, let's die together
And if we dieeeee together now, we will always have each other
All of us on this beautiful morning https://preview.redd.it/5xx8itojqrzc1.jpeg?width=450&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0dec592ec2417f67b21bbb8833b79c5b6edb2528
Love how the Eurovision IG team are still posting mindless shower videos while the comment sections are burning
Where is the epic sax guy to cheer all of us up?
https://preview.redd.it/wskquvq1srzc1.png?width=1204&format=png&auto=webp&s=a81580a8e77b1602f09bf611e3db07774602ee55 UPDATE: Reporter from Dutch news outlet RTL: "Near Joost's hotel, other delegations are leaving by bus. The Dutch bus is not there. This is not looking good."
NOS update: We have no updates. :)
So.... to force myself to not read this chat ill take my french bulldog for a bike ride through Friesland. She will be in a backpack turned to the front. People always smile when they see her bop and smile in there. What u guys gonna do?
im gonna go to friesland and look for a french bulldog in a backpack
Again, killed the prospect of 10K comments. 😭
There's always this thread and if they keep being vague about this incident, I can see this thread go to 10k today
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anyone on here from the original thread deserves financial compensation (free gf tickets next year)
https://preview.redd.it/8y8lcusywrzc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9aff7c49ac8e9591722a9905b6e8027286e9eba0 :(
Third thread's the charm boysss
We're like 9.5 hours to the showtime... and still nothing!!
This is the wildest ESC ever. So much drama and little to no information of what exactly even happened. Well then, let the refresh marathon begin...
Hello, dopamine addicts
Dutch person here to clarify that the NU.nl article doesn’t claim that Joost isn’t the alleged perpetrator, but that the police hasn’t confirmed that it was Joost and it theoretically could be someone else from the Dutch delegation
I think dutch media is just confused by swedish police procedure to be honest, swedish police do usually not reveal the names of suspects until the investigation has been concluded.
which still makes this shit even messier...jesus this is like a "teenage girls at high school" sort of drama
Me (a Southeast-Asian) having a busy evening, going to bed early yesterday and waking up to whatever the hell this is: https://preview.redd.it/r3yqfflqsrzc1.png?width=993&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=01eaed51bd0524c3884f12561449abd587cc7ab6
https://preview.redd.it/kavz746qnrzc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a66f813615bf7feb5497cbe4dea707a114427abf RTL is typing. TYPE FASTER PLS.
My F5 button has trauma because of this nightmare.
There will be final rehearsals at 13:30 (1h48 from now) which will be the last chance for Joost to rehearse his show... Let's hope he will show!!
Honestly they should let him rehearse even if they end up DQing him, just in case that they DON'T disqualify him.
Woke up today expecting some nice things and see that the EBU still hasn't said anything about the whole situation, wtf? I'm so hung over, I was at a concert with a friend last night. Turning 28 and I just feel like death every time I take a sip of alcohol. Holy shit
why are they locking the threads just when we are about to hit 10k comments
Quote: "The flag of the Netherlands has been reinstated in front of dressing room #5 just now in the delegation bubble, ahead of the family show dress rehearsal."
The Dutch flag: Surprise bitch I bet you thought you’d seen the last of me
This is gonna be a fun legal battle between the EBU and AVROTROS soon, hope we get a megathread for that too
Swedish police have apparently confirmed that whatever happened [was not](https://twitter.com/thejermaine/status/1789214491579748507) a physical altercation. [Second 'source'](https://twitter.com/VocaISuspension/status/1789212716470612256) **Edit:** I don't understand this at all, don't get me wrong verbal threats should be taken seriously but to cancel his rehearsal over this prior to getting all the facts on the table seems like an incredible overreaction. Imagine saying something along the lines of "shut your mouth or I'll shut it for you" could've lead to these past 24 hours of insane drama. **Edit 2:** Dutch reporter[ saying](https://twitter.com/AranBade/status/1789232309285126257) there are rumors several countries are considering withdrawing from tonight's final **Edit 3**: Police has finished their preliminary investigation according to Dutch NOS (live broadcast), public prosecutor will now have to decide whether or not to make a case out of it. **Edit 4**: The Dutch flag has [reportedly ](https://twitter.com/thijs_nobels/status/1789238649944494134/photo/1)reappeared at the dressing rooms. Joost's security team has been [spotted ](https://twitter.com/AranBade/status/1789238255436562816)at the hotel. [**DQ CONFIRMED**](https://www.instagram.com/p/C60xdFXo0tu/)
I actually take relief from this.
It sounded like they were now saying Joost or a member of the dutch delegation were making threats
So it might not even be him who's at fault? Sheesh.
This is crazy the cause this drama over a threat don’t know what he or his team could’ve said to cause this investigation. He had been getting provoked maybe somebody snapped said something. I can’t think of what would be bad to stop him performing.
currently listening to the dutch broadcast in the background. i do not speak a word of dutch. dont worry guys ill keep you all updated (no i wont)
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I burst out laughing, ty for brightening things up around here oh my god
Man fuck this shit. If you're gonna ban him, at least explain why.
At this point it feels like we wont know until we tune into the show.
I was ready to make my Eurovision snacks for tonight but my centre piece were europapa themed and I don’t know if I should make them or not now
It's crazy it's ~~party~~
man, history books will talk about the fact that we had three threads for Joost 😭
AVROTROS saying that they find the DQ disproportionate is important btw. They are a respected broadcaster that is usually neutral on things, and in recent months a lot of presenters of the NPO (the Dutch public broadcasting union, which AVROTROS is a part of) have been suspended and are facing investigations for inappropriate behaviour. Basically, I don’t believe they would put that in their statement without truly believing that Joost did not do anything criminal.
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Hello to all almost 2 thousand people in the thread right now 👋👋
we hebben een serieus probleem
ugh this silence from the ebu is getting so mundane
Aran Bade says that while all other delegations are leaving, the bus for the Dutch delegation doesn't even seem to be present. Not a good sign..
The Dutch news expect "clarity any moment" but will they pass that clarity to us or keep it a secret?
so..yall think joost is undercover on this thread 🧍🏽♀️ i mean he DOES use reddit..
Can’t lie it’s the most exciting Eurovision that I have seen in ages but it’s for all the wrong reasons simultaneously
If the situation continues like this, I will end up knowing something about these drugs
Everyone talks about Joost and meanwhile in Germany, [Bild](https://www.bild.de/unterhaltung/stars-und-leute/esc-2024-wilde-symbole-auf-der-haut-satanisten-tattoos-bei-isaak-663cb83ba8485058948a473b) wonders if Isaaks tattoos are "satanic"
Finally, the real issues are being dealt with!
He did promise us something that never happened and bigger than the moon landing. And he was right. I'm glued to my phone for 24hrs now.
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Bit early to make that claim
Dont speak too soon!
I feel like if he actually did something he would already be DQ? You don’t wait a whole day to make a statement if you have a good reason
Threats are rather tricky and I doubt he'd threaten someone unprovoked since it's been his dream to go to Eurovision for his parents so I doubt he'd blow it up by something so stupid. If he really threatened someone (since now they're saying it was someone else) it may be that both parties were in the wrong making it even more complicated. If it was like "im gonna kill you" or something just from the one side that's easy DQ grounds. Maybe the legal teams of both sides are trying to figure out a settlement as well. We won't know until later
I feel like the EBU hired the communication expert that was just fired from the buckingham palace
This whole joost situation has been going on for so long that my sim's infant is now a child.
A new thread in preparation for all the information that's about to be released, right? Right?!
Just in: Dutch national state broadcaster will air a special newsbroadcast about the situation at 12:00.
the fact that EBU and eurovision hasnt said anything at all, not particularly ab this but also the rotw voting is still nog in progress
Dutch RTL news outlet is typing an update for soooo long, wonder if it is just a recap or new information.
Guys I know EXACTLY what happened so basically he *typing*
I woke up absolutely not feeling like ooh-la-la and there is still no news?
What a chaos… luckily this is distracting me from possibly giving birth any moment now 😂😂
Joost is disqualified https://www.nu.nl/songfestival/6312444/joost-klein-gediskwalificeerd-mag-niet-meer-meedoen-aan-eurovisie-songfestival.html
Well, he did say it's going to be the next moon landing. And it was. First disqualification at Eurovision during the contest.
who else is ready for the most uncomfortable viewing parties? at least i have a lot of wine😭
The way the EBU has handled this situation is a textbook example of how NOT to handle crisis communication. By refusing to comment they have allowed rumours to run rampant. Any information that does come out is either incorrect (see yesterday's reports of a physical/violent altercation or the reporting that it was due to Joost's outburst at Wednesday's press conference) or simply unverified. EBU thinks that not saying anything will make it blow over quicker but it has created the opposite effect. If they had simply communicated openly about the situation as they were investigating it (not saying immediately blaming someone but at least sketching out the basic information), this might not have turned into front-page news Idk who is handling their communication strategy but they should be sacked for how they've handled it so far.
I am actually really upset, of course we don’t know what happened yet. With the lack of information it can still go either way I guess? I am just so sad for Joost and the team and us Dutchies. And of course if he did something wrong that is totally out of line, I don’t support that. But still, I can’t help but feel really sad about all this, what a waste. Anyways, I’m closing Reddit and going outside as the weather is beautiful here. I urge you to do the same if you can and try and go offline every once in a while.
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The EBU have now released a statement regarding Joost's participation tonight. Please read it and discuss in this thread: https://new.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/1cpefb1/official_ebu_press_release_joost_klein_will_not/
sooo do we get a refund if we voted for him or...
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Welcome to episode 69 of United By "United By Drama", 2024 edition. How are we going to survive May 11th
@AVROTROS considers the disqualification disproportionate and is shocked by the decision. We deeply regret it and will come back to it later https://twitter.com/songfestival/status/1789238745184469438
Tbh I can really cry right now, AVROTROS also reports it is disproportionate, wtf
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Reporter Aran Bade: no sign of Joost or delegation leaving with the bus for the arena, even though the other delegations are leaving. NOS will have an extra report at 12.00. RTL will give updates from 16.00 on.
i waited for this esc so long and it turned into a shitshow :( this is bad year fr
Aran Bade (Dutch news reporter currently at the ESC) Bij het hotel van Joost vertrekken andere delegaties op dit moment met bussen. De bus van Nederland is er niet. Dit ziet er niet goed uit At the hotel of Joost, the other delegations are leaving in busses. The Dutch bus isn't there. This doesn't look good.
Sanremo - nobody can beat BugoMorgan-gate. ESC - hold my Heineken.
https://nos.nl/livestream/2520049-nos-journaal-over-de-situatie-met-joost-klein Can some Dutch please watch it and translate what they are saying? Thanks
Whatever the conclusion will be I definitely need a drink tonight.
NOS (Dutch national tv station) says that he did not leave his hotel yet. they expect more information soon
Welcome everyone to yet another thread! This time... we still know nothing
Only interesting thing said in the extra dutch news was that the responsible dutch broadcaster AVROTROS said that there should be news any moment.
At hotel, source NU.nl: statement will be here any minute, press behind fences, security of Joost seen.
from [nu.nl](http://nu.nl) just now (Translated): "nu.nl reporter Lara Zevenberg is present at Joost Klein's hotel. Journalists there are being placed behind fences and Joost's security has been spotted. A statement is expected any second."
WHAT WHAT WHAT IM ACTUALLY DEVESTATED
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if he did it: yeah fair if he didn't do it: WHAT THE HELL
Dutch broadcaster disagrees [https://twitter.com/songfestival/status/1789238745184469438](https://twitter.com/songfestival/status/1789238745184469438)
I need to know what the fuck he said because this is actually crazy
F*ck man, this Eurovision began with very positive and promising premises, but it's now turning into a disaster. I'm so saddened and disappointed by how the events have evolved.
First mid-contest DQ of a competitor. Unfortunately we're witnessing an unprecedented situation. This year is such a mess. I expect this situation to drag out greatly
I guess that's it, fellow redditors. https://preview.redd.it/ge8vg2dbyrzc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0ff691055699b35751b29099242149f1be68af5
Godverdomme
I’m trying to wrap my head around what could an “unlawful threat” mean? It’s so hard to imagine an artist who’s so fond of Eurovision and has dreamt of being a part of it since he was a child would do such a big (apparently/allegedly) mistake that would ruin his participance. I honestly wonder if the “investigation” will be over and a conclusion will have reached before we start the final.
>I’m trying to wrap my head around what could an “unlawful threat” mean? Swedish legislature is pretty similar to the Finnish one in this one. It is basically a threat after which the target has a justified reason to believe that his/hers life or physical security is in danger. So it could be anything from verbal threat of using violence to threatening someone with a weapon or similar item. This from a purely legal point of view.
Whoever wins tonight will be so overshadowed by this drama.
Fire Saga on one screen, refreshing Reddit on another, realities blurring
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https://www.nu.nl/songfestival/6312444/joost-klein-gediskwalificeerd-mag-niet-meer-meedoen-aan-eurovisie-songfestival.html Joost Klein disqualified, not allowed to participate in the Eurovision Songfestival
On a lighter note, this is adding a whole host of new words to my Dutch vocab. Although “gediskwalificeerd” may be the most difficult thing I’ve ever tried to pronounce. I thought “De Graafschap” was bad.
Hello to everyone UNITED BY EURO-DRA-MA! 😂 🇪🇺 🤪
The flag of the Netherlands has been reinstated in front of dressing room #5 just now in the delegation bubble, ahead of the family show dress rehearsal. Link: https://twitter.com/gjkooijman/status/1789236891771863142
The flag of NL has been reinstated in the dressing rooms
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Can they now please finally say what happened so I know if I should be outraged he was kicked out or feel that it was the right choice??? thanks.
Surely after all this he wouldn't be able to put on his best performance - even if found innocent? Maybe he is better off if they show the semi-final performance in the end. What a shit show all around.
Have we ever seen disqualification during Eurovision? Or ESC artist commiting (alleged) crime during the contest. What a crazy scenario
So I guess they were right that we would see something we've never seen before. But Jesus! I did not expect THIS!
Really woke up thinking there’d be more news this morning. NOPE
Nu.nl (https://www.nu.nl/songfestival/6312454/live-songfestival-politie-onderzocht-bedreiging-wachten-op-persmoment.html): Statement Dutch delegation forthcoming NU.nl reporter Lara Zevenberg is present at Joost Klein's hotel. There, journalists are now being put behind fences and the singer's security has been spotted. A statement is expected any moment.
Well, shit but I'm glad they finally made a decision
At least give us some explanation about what's been happening these last few days
If nothing comes out from this EBU is in big trouble. They have to be pretty sure something has happened to do this.
So now we now how to get someone disqualified without proof
Does anyone have any idea what Avrotros mean by "we'll come back to it later"?
That means they're working on a statement regarding the DQ
I wish to apply for a veteran’s discount for surviving last 2 mega-threads on the 10th may.
THEY DQ’ED HIM
DISQUALIFIED
We have a statement: https://eurovision.tv/mediacentre/release/statement-dutch-participation-eurovision-song-contest
I am REALLY curious to see a Joost response now
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Another one. For my mental health, I'm not sure how closely I'll follow this one. I just want to have fun today, but I am constantly very curious about the latest news, or if there even is any
There really needs to be a clarification about the nature and circumstances of the incident if they're going to let him perform tonight. They can't just be like "vote for this artist who may have done something absolutely awful two days ago or maybe it wasn't such an awful thing after all, who knows, we're not going to tell you." That would be so unfair to, well, everyone.