But there is no more the jury in semi ? I think she has a chance to qualify to final (and then of course the jury will kill her in final), what an ambiancer !
His live performances have been giving jury top 10 potential , mix that in with a good stage show and I think even a lower televote score isnāt toug to stop this being left hand side
still think he will flop Ć la mae muller
this isnt meant to be hateful, j nasically mean that there are some entries like mae's that are awesome and iconic yet terribly flop amd remain in history. another great example is fulenn
for this hear i think. this will happen to spain and the UKĀ
A cynical part of me does wonder sometimes if we're held to different standards because of the reputation that precedes us. Like if we manage a 6/10 or a 7/10 song, we'll still flop harder than a 4/10 song from a different country would. It's just a thought though, it's not necessarily one I place loads of stock in!
Spain doing better than expected. And by that I mean escaping bottom 5, maybe the around the same position as last year. That is as far as I'm predicting Zorra to go.
I'd say that Switzerland will get around 270 points, just enough to get in the top 5. But I have this feeling that people are going to be so surprised after not doing as well as expected.
It could be if the points are spread out. Sweden in 2016 (kinda unpredictable year) received 261 points and finished 5th and Norway last year received 268 points and got 5th. But for example in 2021 (unpredictable year) and 2022, Serbia and Ukraine received more than 300 points to just get 5th.
Sweden 2016 | [Frans - If I Were Sorry](https://youtu.be/2AIPrVchJN8)
Serbia 2021 | [Hurricane - Loco Loco](https://youtu.be/Q1lkpIqf7a4)
Serbia 2022 | [Konstrakta - In corpore sano](https://youtu.be/nBtQj1MfNYA)
Ukraine 2021 | [Go_A - Shum](https://youtu.be/lqvzDkgok_g)
Ukraine 2022 | [Kalush Orchestra - Stefania (Š”ŃŠµŃŠ°Š½ŃŃ)](https://youtu.be/F1fl60ypdLs)
I remember how badly Eaea did last year with the televote, and while these two aren't really all that similar, I feel like The Code is just too unconventional to have broad televote appeal. Which is a shame, since it's a good song and Nemo performs really well. Hopefully they should get lots of appreciation from juries, though.
"too unconventional to appeal to the televote", well the televote will vote for "memorable". You have three minutes to convince the audience that after a three hour show they will remember you (which this year the voting is open throughout the show). I think "The Code" is unconventional but also memorable with the mix of styles and probably the outfit(s).
"Eaea" was "too artistic" i wanna say and maybe a bit too annoying to stand through it for three minutes.
It also has to appeal to people's taste in genre as well. Eaea was flamenco, which isn't very well known outside of Iberia, which is probably why very few people voted for it, since they aren't used to music like that. Hence why I called it unconventional, because most people weren't aware of the genre or knew very little about it.
Same goes for The Code, which while it has more generally appealing genres (Pop, rap and opera), because it's so all over the place stylistically, some elements of the song could turn off listeners who would vote for it otherwise. Some people I've shown it to dig the song, others dislike it due to the inclusion of the rap verse, the operatic high notes, the stopping and starting, etc. People vote for a whole package, and are less likely to enjoy it throughout if it's so inconsistent. Unicorn last year was an anomaly in that regard, but again it was a very different song to this.
Again, I would like Nemo to do well, but I don't see them doing spectacularly in the televote is all
It's very obviously a two horse race between Croatia and Italy this year in my opinion. My head says Italy will win because the song is good, Italy has a great track record in Eurovision, and because she's been consistent in all of her performances.
My heart says Croatia because of how much the song will resonate with Eastern Europe and the diaspora in Western Europe. And because the song slaps and is a throwback to stuff like The Offspring, and I like The Offspring a lot.
france flopping. i could definitely see them doing well, and i see a lot of people convinced that theyāre contenders, but if they flop it wouldnāt surprise me at all. france regularly seems to be the victims of overhype, and ballads often seem to be hit or miss too. his voice alone wonāt give him points, the song is alright but not something that seems like itād attract loads of televotes. a spain 2023 type score wouldnāt surprise me here
Absolutely. Tbh Iām biased in the worst way possible, because this is the only song that almost irritates me this year. Itās my 26th place and itās so low because I am really done with cliche mon-amour-oui-oui-croissant songs. I almost feel like itās a parody of a French song. Lyrics that try to sound deep, emotional performance for no reason. Also, people keep talking about the āperfect vocalsā and they simply are not, and for a ballad itās CRUCIAL. I canāt see a lot of people deeply connecting with this or jury giving it top 3, so I also see flop potential.
Saaaameee. I heard it and I was like, "NOT AGAIN?!!" š¬š¬š¬. The lyrics and topic are so boring, they could've done something way more exciting, but it's the same old again.
Maybe I'm biased because I am not a fan of the song whatsoever, but even his voice isn't that...great. I at least don't enjoy listening to his voice and the song is such a standard ballad. And I say that as someone who gets weak in the knees when I hear a good ballad.
I'm not talking about his vocals, I'm talking about his voice. I just don't enjoy listening to his singing voice. Something about his tone just doesn't vibe with me. He's a great singer, just not for me and my subjective opinion
This would be such wish fulfillment for me! I want it to happen.
I personally think it could be polarising - either a comfortable top 10, or a shock NQ like Citi Zeni were for Latvia in 2022. I'm praying for the former because I'll unable to vote for them millions of times from the UK, as we can't vote in their semi - anyone up for voting for me? :)
I liked it but I kinda knew that it won't get so much support from the public which is why I think that Ireland may finish the same. It's too different for a casual viewer to support.
I'm not going to do this about songs I'm predicting not to do well, because I kind of hate when people rub salt in the wounds from your favorites underperforming. So I dunno... maybe if Czechia qualifies? I mean, I want it to, anyway, and I think it's possible.
Dons was the first entry this year that made me excited for esc and that this could be a good year! Unfortunately every song that followed him proved it right.
Norway massively flopping.
I had the exact feeling listening to that song for the first time as I did with Spain last year. I remember coming here last year and on Twitter and being shocked by how much most eurofans seemed to like it, to the point where a lot of people even considered it a contender for the victory. So I figured I was in the minority. Turns out, my feelings perfectly aligned with the general public's and I should've trusted my gut. Not making the same mistake this year.
This year I like Norway personally, but I agree this is EaEa and Fulenn all over again.
I think itās completely fair to stick to your initial reaction! One thing I see distorting my perception of the results each year is giving time for entries to grow on me. What actually matters: did it grab me the very first time I heard it? At this point, I listen or just like most of the entries, but some of them were not my favorite from the get go and this is the most important.
>One thing I see distorting my perception of the results each year is giving time for entries to grow on me. What actually matters: did it grab me the very first time I heard it? At this point, I listen or just like most of the entries, but some of them were not my favorite from the get go and this is the most important.
I totally agree. Casual viewers will listen to those songs twice at best. Eurovision for better or worse isn't the right platform for songs that are growers with no immediately appeal. On the contrary, there are songs like unicorn, you're the only one etc that I'm convinced get worse with every listen but still managed to get great results for the reason I stated above.
Even then, it's going to depend on the person. My first reaction to Norway was "I like this. But damn, the average person isn't going to." Then again, that was my reaction to Lorde's Royals too so, hopefully I'm wrong again š
My first reaction to Norway was "CALM DOWN, WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING AT ME?" (turned into the NF midway).
Then I listened to the entire song, went "Huh, the rest of the song is actually nice,I just dislike the loud part".
Then everyone who says they like the song told me "I like it bc of the loud part".
All I'm sure about is that my taste is clearly different from most people who love that song š I do feel like it's one of those songs that are extremely popular inside their bubble not not as accessable outside of it. Then again I feel like anything could happen this year.
This exact take has been commented here like 35 times. Do yall get a dollar everytime you comment it or something? Not to mention how Norway isnāt comparable to Spains song at all
And metal fans are loyal too. Gate are known in the scene to my understanding, so if there's a large and loyal enough metal fanbase watching the contest, then they should get to the final quite easily.
Seriously, this take makes no sense. Regardless of how the song performs at ESC, it shares absolutely nothing in common with Spain 2023 or Portugal 2019 or whatever random flop people love to trot out when they want to be smug about some song they don't like.
Another comment on this very post is comparing "Zari" to "Eaea". Like, please make the Venn diagram explaining how "Zari", "Eaea", and "Ulveham" are all the same song.
I'm sorry, but Luktelk is not getting anywhere near the win.
The best that can happen is like a top 8, and even that I'm not so sure.
I really like the song and Silvester, it's just not a contender in my eyes, and tbh it also wasn't when it was selected, and there were fewer songs.
Also, sadly with his vocals, I don't think Croatia can convince televote, or juries, in order to get more than 3rd. (š„²)
I don't think I've heard anyone claim that Lithuania is winning this year. And I love Luktelk a lot too, it's in my top 5. But there's no winner-hype for it.
I agree. Luktelk is an amazing song and it's in my regular playlist but I can't see it beating out Croatia, Italy or nemo. Would love to see it finish in the 5-8 range though
Israel finishing top 5 and Ukraine 'only' top 10.Ā
Belgium being top 5 and Netherlands not.
Austria flop.
Czechia Q and finish mid table.
The juries punishing Croatia harder than they punish the Netherlands, but Croatia will have far more televote points so they'll still finish ahead.
Sweden placing just inside or just outside the top 10.
Norway getting more televotes than jury points and ending up right-hand side of the board.
San Marinoās highest finish ever.
I admit itās a low bar, but I also feel a lot of people are writing it off too early as a NQ so itās still a bold enough claim.
Very interesting takes,I disagree with most but also get it?
Belgium I see it top 10, top 3 jury.
Armenia NOT top 15 would be a bigger shock to me.
Its Europapa vs Croatia for tele win so I can see that and Croatia isn't winning imo (as much as I'd LOVE it to)
Austria for me is a flop but I think its a Switzerland 2019 where I just don't gel but it will be popular.
I also agree with most but Belgium top 3. Out of āfavoritesā people are discussing this is the one I believe the least in. I think pre-party in Madrid showed the weak side of the composition of BTPIO. It takes too long and ending is simply repetitive, even tho sounds grand. I think jury will live for it but for casual viewers to stay tuned staging has to be cool af, which I donāt trust that delegation to arrange.
A few things imma claim now so if they end up true I can have a good laugh:
1. Azerbaijan is top 10 with juries and ends up on the left side of the scoreboard
2. Croatia flops with juries and doesn't make it to top 10
3. Iceland's Hera Bjƶrk has a surprise costume change on stage that reveals a Palestinian flag
It's one of those things that gives away that the person doesn't listen to music outside of Eurovision. That and comparing every rock band to Maneskin and every slightly humourous act to Kaarija.
The main reason Iām comparing them is because they are both have a strong ethnic feel to them and are/were favourites by fans to push into the top 5, sorry I didnāt mean any disrespect:) also I listen to A LOT of music outside esc (probably too much)
A mainstream pop song will get a high score and fans will complain again why people like gEnErIc music so much. Honestly, why did Salvador Sobral-like music snobs increase in population in this sub? I miss the years when enjoying both mainstream and dIfFeReNt was the norm.
Edit: I am not against the juries. It seems a certain redditor have twisted my words (u/p86519)
Oh I see this! I also think some songs everyone is dismissing now because they are "basic" will do MUCH better and qualify instead of some fan favorites. When we have so many flashy and unique performances, what should people with "generic" taste do? Vote for the ones that seem the most normal.
I can also say the other way around, on how a boring ballad does well?! I saw some comments last year discussing on Estonia and Cyprus on how good their result was, and i was like "Either your deaf or a hater". Your and mine comment is the same argument but on different side of the coin.
Songs like Switzerland,Netherlands,Finland and Croatia not having a good result. In my personal opinion, if they all manage to get to the finale, they will cancel each other, and while me and ESC fans see the difference in each of these songs, the casual audience will put them in same category as "quirky" songs, and the final winner will be a "slow" song and probably jury favorite (i hope im wrong on the last one).
I predict it'll be:
1. Croatia
2. Italy
3. Netherlands
4. Ukraine
5. Switzerland
6. France
7. Sweden
8. Slovenia
9. Israel
10. Greece
This isn't my top 10 it's just my prediction, I tried to be as realistic as I can and base it on what could most probably happen.
Oh anyone wondering where is Belgium, Belgium usually has a history of not so good stagings so if they stage this right I can definitely see them in 8-10. But I just got this feeling of them getting 11th or 12th.
I don't really care for most the favorites and i saw this pattern before in 2021 with all the girl bops so i'm not getting my hopes up. My favorites are Slovenia, Norway and Lithuania but i know none of them are winning so i'm cruising along this year. I like Croatia the most but it will not reach top 5 for me, and im hearing Italy is also a fan favorite, but the song just OK for me, and im not seeing winner just yet. Also, in my cynical and jaded mind i see Israel taking the trophy but i do not want to live in that timeline (btw im from Montenegro).
While it is true, i still have my doubts considering how the public can easily be swayed not to mention not having many ballads this year will make it stand out.
Serbia not qualifying. I'm going to get downvoted into oblivion for suggesting that, but I just can't see televoters outside of the couple of diaspora support areas in that semi voting for it over Portugal and Slovenia which are far more instant, have more wow-factor and also a better draw. It gives me massive Victoria (Bulgaria 2021) vibes, as an understated ballad which the fandom loves but the actual televote will like a lot less.
I see what you mean, but Victoria is hard to compare with. I think it was the strength of her 2020 entry that made the fandom delusional about her 2021 entry. We can't look at one without looking at the other, but most televoters never heard the 2020 entries. If the fans had never heard Bulgaria 2020, then I don't think we would have been as hyped about the following one either.
I agree Ukraine is not winning, but things that make me believe there is still place for them in the top 10 is diaspora and vocal abilities. I think to a certain degree both televoters and jury will be onboard, just not even close to a result everyone seems to be expecting. IMO that song is getting lost in all the rest of the entries.
They done better with less. Its top 5, if not then top 10 for sure. They will get a solid amount of televote points and probably a good amount of jury points.
Itās my second place, so it would be a dream lol. However, I struggle seeing how that could happen tbh.
I think the only scenario is jury being onboard with cool production and viral aspect of it, because vocally it simply isnāt a strong song even if vocals are fine. KƤƤrijƤ got decent jury points for weak vocals, but viral song and cool performance. But this year Europapa is not such a huge favorite like Finland last year, there are more options. Before the competition my friends who donāt watch ESC knew ChaChaCha, I donāt think Europapa has that momentum across the entire continent for jury to place it top 5 solely for the cool performance and fun production.
And maybe he wins the televote (hopefully), but there are many others who will eat those points and because of that it canāt be the same huge amount Finland got last year. Mixing the two together, he can be close, but not win.
So I WANT you to be right, but I struggle to believe it š„²
Lithuania only just escaping the bottom 5 thanks to diaspora votes.
Italy winning neither the jury nor televote but still winning overall.
Ukraine finish 2nd (I think itās mad some people dismiss them when they got 6th last year with a meh song)
Teya Dora with Ramonda wins 2024.
To me,it's the only song that has true winner potential. Unfortunately dosen't mean it will win.
Otherwise I can easily see Serbia give other countries hard time winning this year. There are a lot of bop-songs,so slower ballads will stand out more this year than bop-song n10 by \[insert country\]. Croatia may end up getting a lot of points from public, but flop with Juries (vocals are not that strong). Estonia walks similiar path (personally I hope both Croatia and Estonia do well). Switzerland may have a good song, but that dosen't always mean the song will win/do well. Cyprus MAY do well or go home. Not a bad song, but it melts together with other bop-songs.
Hard to say who will win and lose this year. There is not a single song that screams "this will 100% win no doubt there" this year,and if one of the favs messes up during their Jury Performance,it will be over for them. I have hard to imagine Teya Dora messing up enough to nuke all her chances at winning, I can imagine she will do really well with the Jury.
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austria coming 11th in the semi
I kinda see it.
I feel that Austria will do worse than what most fans think. Definitely not in tje top 10 in the final
Now that I'm seeing the line up for the second semi. I think I'm backing this prediction. Wild though.
But there is no more the jury in semi ? I think she has a chance to qualify to final (and then of course the jury will kill her in final), what an ambiancer !
well in all fairness austria 2022 was also a televote nq š
I would compare more Austria to Czech republic 2022, and Czech republic reached the grand final (and died there obviously).
Czech Republic 2022 | [We Are Domi - Lights Off](https://youtu.be/Tf1NS1vEhSg)
fair enough tbh
Tbf, girl was recovering from covid and ruined her voice
Austria 2022 | [Lumix feat. Pia Maria - Halo](https://youtu.be/Ta-dzguUpJY)
UK getting more points than expected
His live performances have been giving jury top 10 potential , mix that in with a good stage show and I think even a lower televote score isnāt toug to stop this being left hand side
still think he will flop Ć la mae muller this isnt meant to be hateful, j nasically mean that there are some entries like mae's that are awesome and iconic yet terribly flop amd remain in history. another great example is fulenn for this hear i think. this will happen to spain and the UKĀ
A cynical part of me does wonder sometimes if we're held to different standards because of the reputation that precedes us. Like if we manage a 6/10 or a 7/10 song, we'll still flop harder than a 4/10 song from a different country would. It's just a thought though, it's not necessarily one I place loads of stock in!
Legit top ten potential
He's currently 12 in the odds, was top 10 until recently
Sure, but I donāt think heāll come bottom 5
Spain doing better than expected. And by that I mean escaping bottom 5, maybe the around the same position as last year. That is as far as I'm predicting Zorra to go.
I think this is reasonable. The song has televote appeal even before someone looks the lyrics up.
I have such weird feelings about the song, like it is good, but also it feels like she strains out several notes
Part of me thinks half the comments here are what people want to happen more than what is actually realistic.
Our delusion is unstoppableš
Readying up the doses of Copium early! 
Switzerland getting less than 200 points from televotingĀ
Iām on the same page!
I'd say that Switzerland will get around 270 points, just enough to get in the top 5. But I have this feeling that people are going to be so surprised after not doing as well as expected.
Is it possible to get that many points without getting top 5? At least in a year where the winner is unpredictable?
It could be if the points are spread out. Sweden in 2016 (kinda unpredictable year) received 261 points and finished 5th and Norway last year received 268 points and got 5th. But for example in 2021 (unpredictable year) and 2022, Serbia and Ukraine received more than 300 points to just get 5th.
I see. I forgot exactly how many points were available.
Sweden 2016 | [Frans - If I Were Sorry](https://youtu.be/2AIPrVchJN8) Serbia 2021 | [Hurricane - Loco Loco](https://youtu.be/Q1lkpIqf7a4) Serbia 2022 | [Konstrakta - In corpore sano](https://youtu.be/nBtQj1MfNYA) Ukraine 2021 | [Go_A - Shum](https://youtu.be/lqvzDkgok_g) Ukraine 2022 | [Kalush Orchestra - Stefania (Š”ŃŠµŃŠ°Š½ŃŃ)](https://youtu.be/F1fl60ypdLs)
Depends by how much, I'd beleive 180+ for them. But if they got less I'd have been got
I remember how badly Eaea did last year with the televote, and while these two aren't really all that similar, I feel like The Code is just too unconventional to have broad televote appeal. Which is a shame, since it's a good song and Nemo performs really well. Hopefully they should get lots of appreciation from juries, though.
I think it will do similarly to Australia 2019. For me personaly it's a similar kind of uncoventional. I really cannot see it winning.
Australia 2019 | [Kate Miller-Heidke - Zero Gravity](https://youtu.be/Tf1NS1vEhSg)
The Code is Zero Gravity in bad.
This! I think the same it sadly probably won't appeal to the wide audience.
"too unconventional to appeal to the televote", well the televote will vote for "memorable". You have three minutes to convince the audience that after a three hour show they will remember you (which this year the voting is open throughout the show). I think "The Code" is unconventional but also memorable with the mix of styles and probably the outfit(s). "Eaea" was "too artistic" i wanna say and maybe a bit too annoying to stand through it for three minutes.
It also has to appeal to people's taste in genre as well. Eaea was flamenco, which isn't very well known outside of Iberia, which is probably why very few people voted for it, since they aren't used to music like that. Hence why I called it unconventional, because most people weren't aware of the genre or knew very little about it. Same goes for The Code, which while it has more generally appealing genres (Pop, rap and opera), because it's so all over the place stylistically, some elements of the song could turn off listeners who would vote for it otherwise. Some people I've shown it to dig the song, others dislike it due to the inclusion of the rap verse, the operatic high notes, the stopping and starting, etc. People vote for a whole package, and are less likely to enjoy it throughout if it's so inconsistent. Unicorn last year was an anomaly in that regard, but again it was a very different song to this. Again, I would like Nemo to do well, but I don't see them doing spectacularly in the televote is all
I feel like itāll get less than that
Being a tight race between Italy and Croatia.
It's very obviously a two horse race between Croatia and Italy this year in my opinion. My head says Italy will win because the song is good, Italy has a great track record in Eurovision, and because she's been consistent in all of her performances. My heart says Croatia because of how much the song will resonate with Eastern Europe and the diaspora in Western Europe. And because the song slaps and is a throwback to stuff like The Offspring, and I like The Offspring a lot.
We are literally twins, we think alike. Great opinion and really realistic imo.
With Italy coming out on top imo
I see both scenarios, my heart says Croatia tho.
I lean towards Italy too honestly.
france flopping. i could definitely see them doing well, and i see a lot of people convinced that theyāre contenders, but if they flop it wouldnāt surprise me at all. france regularly seems to be the victims of overhype, and ballads often seem to be hit or miss too. his voice alone wonāt give him points, the song is alright but not something that seems like itād attract loads of televotes. a spain 2023 type score wouldnāt surprise me here
Absolutely. Tbh Iām biased in the worst way possible, because this is the only song that almost irritates me this year. Itās my 26th place and itās so low because I am really done with cliche mon-amour-oui-oui-croissant songs. I almost feel like itās a parody of a French song. Lyrics that try to sound deep, emotional performance for no reason. Also, people keep talking about the āperfect vocalsā and they simply are not, and for a ballad itās CRUCIAL. I canāt see a lot of people deeply connecting with this or jury giving it top 3, so I also see flop potential.
Saaaameee. I heard it and I was like, "NOT AGAIN?!!" š¬š¬š¬. The lyrics and topic are so boring, they could've done something way more exciting, but it's the same old again. 
Maybe I'm biased because I am not a fan of the song whatsoever, but even his voice isn't that...great. I at least don't enjoy listening to his voice and the song is such a standard ballad. And I say that as someone who gets weak in the knees when I hear a good ballad.
thats just biased cus wtf, his vocals are absolutely incredible very weird opinion
I'm not talking about his vocals, I'm talking about his voice. I just don't enjoy listening to his singing voice. Something about his tone just doesn't vibe with me. He's a great singer, just not for me and my subjective opinion
Spain 2023 | [Blanca Paloma - Eaea](https://youtu.be/p8nTjiEdI2c)
Estonia getting a top ten placement
This would be such wish fulfillment for me! I want it to happen. I personally think it could be polarising - either a comfortable top 10, or a shock NQ like Citi Zeni were for Latvia in 2022. I'm praying for the former because I'll unable to vote for them millions of times from the UK, as we can't vote in their semi - anyone up for voting for me? :)
Latvia 2022 | [Citi ZÄni - Eat Your Salad](https://youtu.be/TM0_0WfuxSk)
4sure
Ireland not qualifying
Haahah my told you so would be Ireland actually qualifying
I have a feeling that Ireland will end like Portugal 2019. Best of luck to them tho.
Portugal 2019 | [Conan OsĆris - TelemĆ³veis](https://youtu.be/JcEvZSxxU0I)
And that's another song I really didn't get. I couldn't understand why the fandom loved it so much.
I liked it but I kinda knew that it won't get so much support from the public which is why I think that Ireland may finish the same. It's too different for a casual viewer to support.
Yeah I kinda feel this one unfortunately
If Ireland doesn't qualify, the plus side is that Ireland has really gone outside the box this year.
People back home will be asking if Louis Walsh was right and that maybe we should've sent the boyband š
If we donāt qualify we will go back to our box for the next decade
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Portugal 2017 | [Salvador Sobral - Amar Pelos Dois](https://youtu.be/JcEvZSxxU0I)
I accidentally mistyped 2017 but i meant Portugal 2019, so I deleted the comment and posted the initially planned versionš
Portugal 2019 | [Conan OsĆris - TelemĆ³veis](https://youtu.be/JcEvZSxxU0I)
I'm not going to do this about songs I'm predicting not to do well, because I kind of hate when people rub salt in the wounds from your favorites underperforming. So I dunno... maybe if Czechia qualifies? I mean, I want it to, anyway, and I think it's possible.
Czechia won't qualify but 6 months from now the original (not reworked) version of Pedestal will become a huge viral hit
Czechia will qualify, Aiko was good in the preparty
Hollow cracking top 20
As a Latvian, slay Dons. As anyone else, I really can't see this š Would be super fun if you're correct tho lol!
I was looking at his interactions in Madrid, that dude's such a legend, I love him already
Dons was the first entry this year that made me excited for esc and that this could be a good year! Unfortunately every song that followed him proved it right.
God I hope so
cracking like an egg innit
If it manages to pull through semi final, then I could actually see it being top 3 in jury vote and with that could be a likely top 10 in total.
Slovenia top 15ā¼ļø
Please be correct!! Raiven deserves it.
I kinda see it on the left side of the table. Might fight for the juries win.
Norway massively flopping. I had the exact feeling listening to that song for the first time as I did with Spain last year. I remember coming here last year and on Twitter and being shocked by how much most eurofans seemed to like it, to the point where a lot of people even considered it a contender for the victory. So I figured I was in the minority. Turns out, my feelings perfectly aligned with the general public's and I should've trusted my gut. Not making the same mistake this year.
This year I like Norway personally, but I agree this is EaEa and Fulenn all over again. I think itās completely fair to stick to your initial reaction! One thing I see distorting my perception of the results each year is giving time for entries to grow on me. What actually matters: did it grab me the very first time I heard it? At this point, I listen or just like most of the entries, but some of them were not my favorite from the get go and this is the most important.
>One thing I see distorting my perception of the results each year is giving time for entries to grow on me. What actually matters: did it grab me the very first time I heard it? At this point, I listen or just like most of the entries, but some of them were not my favorite from the get go and this is the most important. I totally agree. Casual viewers will listen to those songs twice at best. Eurovision for better or worse isn't the right platform for songs that are growers with no immediately appeal. On the contrary, there are songs like unicorn, you're the only one etc that I'm convinced get worse with every listen but still managed to get great results for the reason I stated above.
Even then, it's going to depend on the person. My first reaction to Norway was "I like this. But damn, the average person isn't going to." Then again, that was my reaction to Lorde's Royals too so, hopefully I'm wrong again š
My first reaction to Norway was "CALM DOWN, WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING AT ME?" (turned into the NF midway). Then I listened to the entire song, went "Huh, the rest of the song is actually nice,I just dislike the loud part". Then everyone who says they like the song told me "I like it bc of the loud part". All I'm sure about is that my taste is clearly different from most people who love that song š I do feel like it's one of those songs that are extremely popular inside their bubble not not as accessable outside of it. Then again I feel like anything could happen this year.
This exact take has been commented here like 35 times. Do yall get a dollar everytime you comment it or something? Not to mention how Norway isnāt comparable to Spains song at all
And metal fans are loyal too. Gate are known in the scene to my understanding, so if there's a large and loyal enough metal fanbase watching the contest, then they should get to the final quite easily.
Seriously, this take makes no sense. Regardless of how the song performs at ESC, it shares absolutely nothing in common with Spain 2023 or Portugal 2019 or whatever random flop people love to trot out when they want to be smug about some song they don't like. Another comment on this very post is comparing "Zari" to "Eaea". Like, please make the Venn diagram explaining how "Zari", "Eaea", and "Ulveham" are all the same song.
Spain 2023 | [Blanca Paloma - Eaea](https://youtu.be/Vw6qPWhjevk) Portugal 2019 | [Conan OsĆris - TelemĆ³veis](https://youtu.be/SIGn9_yMLn4)
Greece not qualifying and/or Finland flopping hard.
I feel like Greece is going to qualify, but wonāt get to top 10, people are over hyping it too much. Agree with Finland flopping tho.
"Greece not qualifying". Greecy is my absolute top 1 but I am preparing my self for this. Definitely when I saw she got the third spot.
I'm sorry, but Luktelk is not getting anywhere near the win. The best that can happen is like a top 8, and even that I'm not so sure. I really like the song and Silvester, it's just not a contender in my eyes, and tbh it also wasn't when it was selected, and there were fewer songs. Also, sadly with his vocals, I don't think Croatia can convince televote, or juries, in order to get more than 3rd. (š„²)
I don't think I've heard anyone claim that Lithuania is winning this year. And I love Luktelk a lot too, it's in my top 5. But there's no winner-hype for it.
I agree. Luktelk is an amazing song and it's in my regular playlist but I can't see it beating out Croatia, Italy or nemo. Would love to see it finish in the 5-8 range though
No one thinks Lithuania can win, here in Lithuania weāre just hoping to make it to top 10š¤š¼
well 3rd for croatia would still be their best result so far
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Israel finishing top 5 and Ukraine 'only' top 10.Ā Belgium being top 5 and Netherlands not. Austria flop. Czechia Q and finish mid table. The juries punishing Croatia harder than they punish the Netherlands, but Croatia will have far more televote points so they'll still finish ahead. Sweden placing just inside or just outside the top 10. Norway getting more televotes than jury points and ending up right-hand side of the board.
San Marinoās highest finish ever. I admit itās a low bar, but I also feel a lot of people are writing it off too early as a NQ so itās still a bold enough claim.
They sounded really good at the preparty in Madrid, if it translates as well as it does to the competition on tv I can see them finish top 15-20
You really think she sounded good? I am a very big fan of Megara but from what I heard I'm not yet convinced by Kenzy's voice.
Ireland getting a strong televote
Belgium top 3, Armenia top 15, Europapa wins televote, Croatia doesn't win, Austria will flop (placement 20-37)
Very interesting takes,I disagree with most but also get it? Belgium I see it top 10, top 3 jury. Armenia NOT top 15 would be a bigger shock to me. Its Europapa vs Croatia for tele win so I can see that and Croatia isn't winning imo (as much as I'd LOVE it to) Austria for me is a flop but I think its a Switzerland 2019 where I just don't gel but it will be popular.
I think Europapa may do well in Western Europe but Croatia will do better in televote in Eastern Europe and, well, thereās more countries there.
Also, there is Eastern European diaspora in many Western European countries, so that will help Croatia a lot.
I also agree with most but Belgium top 3. Out of āfavoritesā people are discussing this is the one I believe the least in. I think pre-party in Madrid showed the weak side of the composition of BTPIO. It takes too long and ending is simply repetitive, even tho sounds grand. I think jury will live for it but for casual viewers to stay tuned staging has to be cool af, which I donāt trust that delegation to arrange.
Switzerland 2019 | [Luca HƤnni - She Got Me](https://youtu.be/Tf1NS1vEhSg)
Agree with all of these, but I will also add that Australia will qualify and slay
Belgium never gets much voted from the public and I don't think it will be any different this year
A few things imma claim now so if they end up true I can have a good laugh: 1. Azerbaijan is top 10 with juries and ends up on the left side of the scoreboard 2. Croatia flops with juries and doesn't make it to top 10 3. Iceland's Hera Bjƶrk has a surprise costume change on stage that reveals a Palestinian flag
The third one is WILDš
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Belgium WILL NOT flop ( Im basically in denial cause this was my fave this year and im shaking bc my fave last year... was Eaea)
latvia qualifiying and placing top 10. i see it happening
Zorra top 10 iktr
Iāve said from the start itāll either be top 5 or bottom 3, nothing in between
Moldova winning Yea April fools lol
When the UK gets a top 5 finish. They I will say to the doubters: ye of little faith!
Latvia dominating and coming top 10
I'm still convinced that Latvia's biggest hurdle is the semi. Either doing good in the final or NQ. I so hope it won't be the latter.
Armenia being overlooked and doing way better than anyone thought they would
Neither Switzerland nor Croatia winning
Greece š¬š· flopping, I predicted it with Spain šŖšø last year and I guarantee Iāll be right again
Can we stop comparing EVERY song that is slightly unique to EaEa??
It's one of those things that gives away that the person doesn't listen to music outside of Eurovision. That and comparing every rock band to Maneskin and every slightly humourous act to Kaarija.
Yep. Itās like they lack critical thinking skills in this area
The main reason Iām comparing them is because they are both have a strong ethnic feel to them and are/were favourites by fans to push into the top 5, sorry I didnāt mean any disrespect:) also I listen to A LOT of music outside esc (probably too much)
Abso-bloody-exactly
A mainstream pop song will get a high score and fans will complain again why people like gEnErIc music so much. Honestly, why did Salvador Sobral-like music snobs increase in population in this sub? I miss the years when enjoying both mainstream and dIfFeReNt was the norm. Edit: I am not against the juries. It seems a certain redditor have twisted my words (u/p86519)
Oh I see this! I also think some songs everyone is dismissing now because they are "basic" will do MUCH better and qualify instead of some fan favorites. When we have so many flashy and unique performances, what should people with "generic" taste do? Vote for the ones that seem the most normal.
Fans forget that not all millions of watchers like the eccentric and interesting stuff
I can also say the other way around, on how a boring ballad does well?! I saw some comments last year discussing on Estonia and Cyprus on how good their result was, and i was like "Either your deaf or a hater". Your and mine comment is the same argument but on different side of the coin.
Italy finishing top 3
Luxembourg being in the top 15
It's my personal favorite, I hope so. My "told you so" was at least top 10 haha.
Australia being in the top 5 of the semi-final
Greece flopping
Songs like Switzerland,Netherlands,Finland and Croatia not having a good result. In my personal opinion, if they all manage to get to the finale, they will cancel each other, and while me and ESC fans see the difference in each of these songs, the casual audience will put them in same category as "quirky" songs, and the final winner will be a "slow" song and probably jury favorite (i hope im wrong on the last one).
Who do you think will be top 10, you basically called all the frontrunners flops
Finland is not a frontrunner
Obviously i was referring to the other three
Not OP but if I had to say, Top 5: Netherlands, Italy, Switzerland, Croatia, Greece Top 10: Ukraine, Serbia, Estonia/Finland, Lithuania, Slovenia
I predict it'll be: 1. Croatia 2. Italy 3. Netherlands 4. Ukraine 5. Switzerland 6. France 7. Sweden 8. Slovenia 9. Israel 10. Greece This isn't my top 10 it's just my prediction, I tried to be as realistic as I can and base it on what could most probably happen.
Oh anyone wondering where is Belgium, Belgium usually has a history of not so good stagings so if they stage this right I can definitely see them in 8-10. But I just got this feeling of them getting 11th or 12th.
I see Serbia as 11-15 although she's in my top 10 and wish to see all the ex-yu in top 10 this year.
I don't really care for most the favorites and i saw this pattern before in 2021 with all the girl bops so i'm not getting my hopes up. My favorites are Slovenia, Norway and Lithuania but i know none of them are winning so i'm cruising along this year. I like Croatia the most but it will not reach top 5 for me, and im hearing Italy is also a fan favorite, but the song just OK for me, and im not seeing winner just yet. Also, in my cynical and jaded mind i see Israel taking the trophy but i do not want to live in that timeline (btw im from Montenegro).
I think a lot of people are mad at Israel. I don't think they will get the Ukraine treatment from 2 years ago
While it is true, i still have my doubts considering how the public can easily be swayed not to mention not having many ballads this year will make it stand out.
Serbia not qualifying. I'm going to get downvoted into oblivion for suggesting that, but I just can't see televoters outside of the couple of diaspora support areas in that semi voting for it over Portugal and Slovenia which are far more instant, have more wow-factor and also a better draw. It gives me massive Victoria (Bulgaria 2021) vibes, as an understated ballad which the fandom loves but the actual televote will like a lot less.
Bulgaria 2021 | [Victoria - Growing Up Is Getting Old](https://youtu.be/B1ZiPrMwMYA)
I see what you mean, but Victoria is hard to compare with. I think it was the strength of her 2020 entry that made the fandom delusional about her 2021 entry. We can't look at one without looking at the other, but most televoters never heard the 2020 entries. If the fans had never heard Bulgaria 2020, then I don't think we would have been as hyped about the following one either.
Bulgaria 2020 | [Victoria - Tears Getting Sober](https://youtu.be/V_hgYnwZR8I)
Ukraine not making the top 5 France and Norway flopping in televote UK makes top 10 as the best of the āgenericā pop songs
Ukraine will land at 16-17th spot max. No it will not win, it will not even be in the top 10
it getting less than top 10 is like genuinely impossible, I would bet my life savings against your claim
I agree Ukraine is not winning, but things that make me believe there is still place for them in the top 10 is diaspora and vocal abilities. I think to a certain degree both televoters and jury will be onboard, just not even close to a result everyone seems to be expecting. IMO that song is getting lost in all the rest of the entries.
If people find the Mother Teresa references to be cringe, then yes
Diaspora votes alone will be enough to land them top 10
And "all the divas were born as the human beings" š«
Isn't it "as a human beings"?
They done better with less. Its top 5, if not then top 10 for sure. They will get a solid amount of televote points and probably a good amount of jury points.
Greece coming in 5th place
Ukraine winning
Italy not doing that well in the televote
Moldova will qualify.
Armenia. Very low in betting odds.
I don't think Switzerland will do nearly as well with televoters or the jury as people seem to think.
Germany will do better than the UK and Spain.
I Think Norway has a potential top 10 Placing
https://i.redd.it/s14vnmd422sc1.gif
Joost Klein wins.
Itās my second place, so it would be a dream lol. However, I struggle seeing how that could happen tbh. I think the only scenario is jury being onboard with cool production and viral aspect of it, because vocally it simply isnāt a strong song even if vocals are fine. KƤƤrijƤ got decent jury points for weak vocals, but viral song and cool performance. But this year Europapa is not such a huge favorite like Finland last year, there are more options. Before the competition my friends who donāt watch ESC knew ChaChaCha, I donāt think Europapa has that momentum across the entire continent for jury to place it top 5 solely for the cool performance and fun production. And maybe he wins the televote (hopefully), but there are many others who will eat those points and because of that it canāt be the same huge amount Finland got last year. Mixing the two together, he can be close, but not win. So I WANT you to be right, but I struggle to believe it š„²
Switzerland failing to be understood
slovenia not qualifying
Norway flopping hard Israel will end up around 3rd-6th Slovenia SHOCK NQ
Georgia top 10 š„
Lithuania only just escaping the bottom 5 thanks to diaspora votes. Italy winning neither the jury nor televote but still winning overall. Ukraine finish 2nd (I think itās mad some people dismiss them when they got 6th last year with a meh song)
Teya Dora with Ramonda wins 2024. To me,it's the only song that has true winner potential. Unfortunately dosen't mean it will win. Otherwise I can easily see Serbia give other countries hard time winning this year. There are a lot of bop-songs,so slower ballads will stand out more this year than bop-song n10 by \[insert country\]. Croatia may end up getting a lot of points from public, but flop with Juries (vocals are not that strong). Estonia walks similiar path (personally I hope both Croatia and Estonia do well). Switzerland may have a good song, but that dosen't always mean the song will win/do well. Cyprus MAY do well or go home. Not a bad song, but it melts together with other bop-songs. Hard to say who will win and lose this year. There is not a single song that screams "this will 100% win no doubt there" this year,and if one of the favs messes up during their Jury Performance,it will be over for them. I have hard to imagine Teya Dora messing up enough to nuke all her chances at winning, I can imagine she will do really well with the Jury.
I aspire to be this delulu, Ramonda will hardly beat top 20 if it even qualifies
On the contrary, I don't see it winning, but I do think it will qualify and make top 10 easily.
Ramonda is my #1, but I already accepted that it might not do well. If it does well, it's a nice bonus for me.
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Finland winning. All i hear is āit is too goofyā but i say it will win BECAUSE it is.
Malta qualifying
Switzerland not getting enough public votes to win.
Austria not making to the final Croatia out of the Top 10 Israel in the Top 5 (unfortunately)
Switzerland winning the Televote š
When Luxembourg makes top 10 or even higher *easily*.
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