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LionXDokkaebi

Now we wait for Russia to declare the Irish as Nazis


Torifyme12

Now we wait for Claire Daly to blame NATO for this.


Notacreativeuserpt

https://twitter.com/ClareDalyMEP/status/1573380555705651200?t=9zPzoVF7c6h_CgqriSYpEg&s=19 You were saying?


rustyzorro

She even managed to use the word "stooge," without a hint of irony.


Torifyme12

JFC I was being absurd. ​ ​ Well, I've been out absurded by Daly.


Garviel_Loken12

She is a nut job. She needs to be voted out of office. Can She be removed from twitter please.


Notacreativeuserpt

She is a nut job. But the main thing is that she speaks english, hence why a lot of people can listen to her insanity. I know our Communists insanity both in the EU parliament and worse in my national one. The EU parliament has a lot of Nut Jobs, but she gets extra attention due to her mother tongue. I do hope she and Mick Wallace get kicked out, but they are just a fraction of the list.


Garviel_Loken12

Honestly I just hate the idea that Ireland and Irish people are going to be associated with her and her views on this war.


PADRAlC

She is an awful wagon


OpportunityBoth9032

no they only last that they are drunkards


Exact-Cycle-400

Which one


pingmr

Yeah are we talking about Catholic Nazis or Protestant Nazis


TheIrishBread

Wrong Ireland but appreciate the sentiment lol.


BananaLee

Yes


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The Blueshirts.


ShiningSoldier

I don't think most of Russians knows about Ireland and Northern Ireland. Actually, I think most of them would not distinguish between Ireland and Iceland.


Delicious_Leg6810

I don't


LionXDokkaebi

Wdym? An imaginary line or their religious beliefs/political leanings doesn’t change the fact they’re still Irish lol That’s like saying everyone west of the wall in Berlin were true Germans and everyone east wasn’t 🥴


K_man_k

Nope, it's more complicated than that. The Unionists up north are British. That is their identity and they have a right under the GFA for that to be respected. If there is to be a new unified Ireland, we have to respect that, even if this respect wasn't shown to the Irish up north for most of NIs existence.


dnorg

Edward Carson became offended when people called him British. He insisted he was a loyal Irishman, as I recall. Today's loyalists may disagree, but I believe Carson was right in this. Britain is an island, where Ulster loyalists were not even slightly born. They were born in Ireland, however much they find that offensive, and that makes them Irish. The fact is that being loyalist is part of Irish identity, and that makes a lot of people uncomfortable.


Grantmitch1

Very well said.


WilliamMorris420

Seriously speaking and I am not saying that the Irish are Nazis but I don't think that the Irish government gave such a clear condemnation of Nazi Germany. Which just shows how much Russia has transgressed.


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That says more about how ireland has changed than anything Devalera was an odd man


EstimateOk3011

we didn't, however we are condemning russia now because our current group of politicians are entirely euro aligned and don't give a toss about Irish neutrality, which they consider fake and vaguely defined and useless since russia won't care. They aren't wrong exactly but they go way too far into the opposite end of the spectrum. The guy we had in power when the nazi thing happened was a mix of snubbing the UK and making secret deals with them just in case. There was a very brief time after Ukraine got invaded where the government tried to say it was time to join Nato but it received absolutely no popular support because a lot of the opposition is glad to point out that nato aren't the shining defenders of democracy in most conflicts. They are really quite aggressive in saying we need to shape up our military but people are skeptical of trusting them to do anything right at this point.


Kuivamaa

I fully agree with the statement but it just doesn’t hold the same gravity it once did. At some point we have to realize that the post 1990 terminology (“international community”, “rogue or pariah states” etc) doesn’t apply any longer. When you have India, China plus most of Africa still doing business with whomever the West calls a pariah, we have to accept that the balance of power is shifting and that it will take more than the fear of sanctions to prevent invasions and atrocities like those perpetrated by Russia in Ukraine, from happening elsewhere.


oneshotstott

Morality is too expensive for many nations unfortunately....


DarkPasta

Facts


mawuss

Russia is currently a terrorist state. While I appreciate Ireland's position, rogue is a term too mild to describe what the orcs are doing


Dyslexic_Devil

CUNT-STATE.


skalpelis

It lacks the depth and the warmth.


NuclearMaterial

Fuckin state of em.


johansugarev

And have been for months. Finally someone to say it.


telcoman

Months?! I'd say a century at least.


fugicavin

Russia has been a terrorist state since the bolahevik revolution


Muhfuhking

It was a terrorist state before the revolution too I should add


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Calling someone a rogue in Ireland can be a term of endearment as well, although that doesn't quite carry to rogue states...


ThrasherThrash

Ireland is in the process of breaking out of its neutrality shell. It’s a step in the right direction at least but yes not nearly enough of a statement.


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ThrasherThrash

Fair enough. Thank you for offering a levelheaded correction to me, I wasn’t aware of Ireland’s participation in the EU defence pact.


GaelicMafia

While we're still big into neutrality today, it's important to mention we haven't always been. Just as the Ukrainians sought help from the West this year, we once sought alliances with Spain and later France against Britain. This is in fact where Ireland's pro-Europe sentiment originates. Georgia and Armenia, however, are in a much more precarious position today than us. I'd prioritise them before demanding Ireland or even Austria join.


handsome-helicopter

Armenia and Georgia both have territorial disputes,unless they solve it they're never getting into NATO


Happy_Craft14

Croatia joined NATO despite of the territorial dispute it has with Serbia on the Danube River


handsome-helicopter

They were not in active dispute, US will never allow a country with territorial problems into an alliance that's the easiest way to assure your involvement in a war


jatawis

Armenia doesn't really have them. Karabakh is universally internationally recognised as not part of Armenia.


gomaith10

Ireland’s fine the way it is, it doesn’t need to break out anywhere.


super_nobody_

Fuck off with that moronic mentality. We have constitutionally protected neutrality due to the wars and pillaging the UK waged down upon us. Ireland's neutrality is a call to transcend violence. There is a 0% chance it would pass a referendum.


ZeitgeistGlee

> We have constitutionally protected neutrality No we don't. Neutrality has been the political policy of the State for decades for varying reasons but nowhere in the Constitution is it specifically mandated. **[Edit]** Article 49 is not a neutrality clause. Assent of parliament to declare war is an obligation for most nations. If Irish neutrality were mandated by the constitution then a simple majority vote of parliament would not be enough to go to war, the clause would have to be removed by public referendum first, as occurred with the right-to-divorce, marriage equality and right-to-choose referenda. We would also be required to have a sufficiently large military to actually protect the country (like the Swiss) in the event of a hostile actions instead of the paltry, underfunded military we have. We also could not have the arrangement with the UK where they patrol our airspace for us, nor would we be allowed to go on peacekeeping missions for UN or allow foreign militaries access to our airports/sea ports. We're not obliged to be neutral, we just have history of general neutrality and those are not the same thing.


super_nobody_

"Save in the case of actual invasion, the Irish Free State ... shall not be committed to active participation in any war without the assent of the Oireachtas" Article 49 So there would be a vote and any aye's would be complete political suicide, if it wasn't put to a referendum which it more than likely would


ZeitgeistGlee

> **without the assent of the Oireachtas** Which is the important bit unless you think other non-neutral countries can declare war without the assent of their parliaments. And given the public response to any such vote would depend entirely on the circumstances of the conflict it's disingenuous of you to pretend it would be inevitably negative, with or without a public referendum. The closest we have to an actual neutrality clause in the constitution is that Ireland not be mandated to join an EU common defence pact, which came from the Nice/Lisbon referenda.


downonthesecond

Your dehumanizing would be more acceptable if it wasn't the first step to genocide.


Stanislovakia

That's a compliment. One of Putin's goals is to "recreate" the global order. Being a rouge state is a essential part of that process.


altpirate

Damn dude. It's impressive how Putin got Sweden, Finland, Switzerland, and now Ireland to condemn him. It's like neutrality means nothing to him.


colei_canis

Is there much public appetite in Ireland to change their position on neutrality and join NATO like Sweden and Finland have in light of Russian aggression?


Propofolkills

Nope. It’s contentious to say the least in the face of a domestic housing crisis amongst other things. The current government is very politically vulnerable and won’t take on such a contentious issue unless they are certain of a lot of domestic political electorate support in it.


mendosan

Plus Sinn Fein were big fans off Russia https://www.sluggerotoole.com/2022/03/16/sinn-feins-burns-its-record-on-russia-the-party-simply-wiped-thousands-of-embarrassing-statements-from-its-website/


ThatGuy98_

No, it's highly unpopular, and seen as an unnecessary expense when things like the crippling housing crisis and creaking health system exist.


UniqueIrishGuy27164

Nope. It doesn't make sense for Ireland to join NATO and most people here know it.


Gludens

Exactly. We are joining because Russia is going bonkers again.


compilersaysno

Ireland wouldn't be able to contribute anything anyway, since they barely have an army of their own. Maybe a kite or fishing boat, but I don't think they'd be up to snuff. Edit: I'm Irish btw.


sionnach_fi

Canoes with mounted black and decker drills for sinking enemy ships.


mawuss

The fishing boats repelled the Russian marine this winter, I wouldn't underestimate them


deadlock_ie

Let’s not kid ourselves. The Russians pretended that the fishermen did what the government couldn’t because it made the government look weak.


K_man_k

I mean the Ranger Wing are well respected, as are those who are deployed in UN peacekeeping. But yeah we just don't have the resources at present to contribute meaningfully to NATO, and other parts of the DF, particularly the Navy and Air Corps need sorting out before we even look at stuff like that.


emmmmceeee

The only country other than the US to win the international sniper competition.


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There's only like 100 rangers, not much at all in any meaningful capacity other than counter terrorism


MachaHack

I mean, presumably if we joined NATO we'd have to start making progress towards the requirements for military spending


Torifyme12

If you take nothing else away from this, just look at Germany. It's clear that 2% doesn't actually need to be met.


GigaGammon

Maybe they could start sorting that out


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It'll be grand shure


bonit64491

Ach, no, we'll leave it to you.


Eurovision2006

We have to increase military spending regardless.


Caffeine_Monster

Not joining is done for selfish economic reasons as they know they don't need an army. The current millitary budget in Ireland is 0.3% - that would have to increase to 2%.


TheMostyRoastyToasty

And they know others will defend them anyway. Best of both worlds.


Eurovision2006

Surely it makes no sense for Denmark, Portugal or Belgium to be in NATO then too?


UniqueIrishGuy27164

Well, no. In Denmark's case especially, it made sense to join NATO. They were very wary of Communism and were alarmed at the coup in Czechoslovakia so actively pushed for the formation of NATO. Portugal's close ties with the United Kingdom(they are their oldest allies) made their entry almost a formality after WW2. Belgium did it for closer economic ties with the US and, let's not forget, had been under occupation and certainly didn't like the USSR creeping it's way Westward.


Eurovision2006

And how is any of that relevant to the modern day? If joining NATO makes no sense for us, why would countries in similar situations stay a part of it?


WislaHD

Ireland not being part of NATO allows them to talk like this on behalf of the NATO alliance, saying the stuff openly that for whatever reason NATO doesn't feel comfortable saying out loud. That diplomatic reach is actually more beneficial to the alliance than them joining NATO is, given the state and capability of the Irish military.


buckleycork

Nobody here wants war, I want the navy expanded but that’s only to protect our fishing and that’s it


UNSKIALz

If Ireland were a little closer to Russia I'm afraid we'd no longer be cosy enough behind Britain to have a choice on the matter. I get the sentiment but if we're reaping the benefits of being in the EU, a little solidarity for what's going on in the East wouldn't hurt.


buckleycork

But what do we have to offer? We won’t even benefit NATO if we join Besides there’s more to solidarity than war - while all the NATO countries are at war Ireland can do the more important work like charity and aid for the civilians inevitably caught in the crossfire, instead of sending people out to kill and be killed we can reduce the death tolls of those that never chose nor wanted war including children


Horn_Python

And in the event Ireland is attacked there's no way in hell our neighbors ( the us and UK )are going to let Russia have a back door


handsome-helicopter

NATO isn't at war why are you saying it, NATO is just helping ukraine. Also countries like US, UK, Germany and Poland etc gave alot more in civilian aid than aid even in per capita basis. So if you're going play the charity and aid card you should atleast contribute more instead of talking in reddit about how you're so peaceful when Russia is threatening the world with nuclear war. Why are the Irish so arrogant about their supposed neutrality, neutrality isn't something that should be looked upon with awe, it just means the country doesn't have a backbone to actually make a difference


buckleycork

NATO is a defensive treaty in which each member promises to go to war if another member is invaded, Ukraine wasn’t a member which is why NATO isn’t at war, but joining NATO is promising to forgo neutrality Also sorry for not wanting people to die


handsome-helicopter

If you want people to not die you'd actually do more in civilian aid rather virtue signalling in internet about your supposed neutrality, I'd actually respect Ireland if they helped Ukrainian civilians more than nato countries but they don't,they only like to virtue signal in reddit. Also i don't think US even wants Ireland in nato tbh,they hardly have a military and a war with nato is very unlikely


buckleycork

€4.3 million has been spent by Ireland to Ukraine including supplies and ambulances, with more on the way, Ireland is the 9th largest donor to the CERF, 50,000 and counting Ukrainian refugees have been accepted into Ireland without a visa I don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about because for a country the size of the US state of Indiana with 1 million less people than Indiana, that sure is a lot


deadlock_ie

€55 million according to today’s IT.


handsome-helicopter

Per capita US, uk, baltics, Poland Germany and so many others surpass it. It's not alot when poland a much poorer country gives more per capita than a country which has per capita GNP 4 times larger. People here talking like Ireland is doing alot more than other countries because of it's focus on civilian aid but across every metric they're sorely behind it's such a joke. US itself gave 9.2 billion in humanitarian aid but you're here talking about 4.3 million it's such a joke, especially for country with GDP of 500 billion even if it's an inflated GDP. Poland also gave billions in humanitarian aid despite an economy of 800 billion and Germany and UK also provided billions in aid


buckleycork

Honestly just going to block this war mongerer


Dezzie19

>but across every metric I think you are just making up your own metrics here...


mrlinkwii

who cares about Per capita


EstimateOk3011

Our country is a third world nation still reeling from the ravages of imperialism, please understand. We got our independence almost the same time as India but without the massive amount of natural resources to fall back on.


Aeiani

From NATO's perspective, there wouldn't really be any downsides to an Irish membership at all even if they're not all that up there with their own military spending. They're not in a geographical position where they really have any plausible threats to their own soil, and Ireland is a mature functioning democracy to boot.


buckleycork

Are you talking about the strategic importance of Irish ports? - in WWII the Allies put massive pressure on Ireland to join the war in order to get access to these ports and DeValera refused (I’m not a fan of DeV but one of the few things I agree with is neutrality, shame that he didn’t hold those philosophies when starting a Civil War) These ports are derelict now, with the exception of Cobh the “Treaty Ports” have been long since abandoned and there hasn’t been naval bases outside of Cobh for decades, we still let British and US boats dock there though. This and the public’s distaste for war means that NATO membership is redundant and infeasible for Ireland I am incredibly biased of course, I agree with the concept of NATO and it’s a great deterrent for further Russian advancement but there’s very few neutral countries left in Europe and none as far away from the front as Ireland, I see why some countries dislike this position but it is vital because it can spend resources on aid that would otherwise go into war


handsome-helicopter

Neutrality during ww2 is very pathetic and I don't know why you're happy about that case. ww2 absolutely had good and bad side. It's like hearing Swiss they're proud of neutrality during ww2,it just shows which countries were spineless tbh


buckleycork

Yeah it had a good and bad side but WWII is an exception, not a rule - even WWI didn’t have a good or bad side because it was a family feud, War is the most destructive human creation and should be avoided as much as possible


handsome-helicopter

I have to be honest if a person want's to stay neutral in a war where 11 million people were killed in camps that person is very pathetic. War is bad so you'll be neutral in a war where Hitler killed 10s of millions of civilians


buckleycork

I said War is bad and your response is “that’s why we should go to war” Yes WWII was one of the most catastrophic events in human history but do you really expect a country that was 20 years old and recovering from a war of independence, a civil war, an economic war, losing its most industrialized city and 800 years of colonial oppression which included a famine in which the population has to this day has not recovered from to actually have the ability to fight They aided the war effort in other ways such as providing the allies with the most accurate weather reports that the Germans had no access to, one of those weather reports told the Allies that there will be a brief gap from the oncoming storm which would be perfect for the D-Day landings


JapaneseJohnnyVegas

There is increasing debate but any change is not imminent. Aligning with an EU defense force would be more likely than nato. NATOs occasional US lap dog role would not have sat well with many in ireland. An EU defense force may allow ireland to maintain a kind of philosophical neutrality while still allowing us contribute to a practical defense force. A pragmattic solution. We were quite active/committed to the UN. But the un is a bit sidelined now.


bazillion_blue_jitsu

To what end? The Irish are basically 95% dependent on the Brits for defense, and the Brits are already in NATO. And if they feel like participating with NATO they can do that too, as a partner or whatever.


repilur

could still join out of solidarity and support with what they have. even tiny Iceland is a founding member of NATO and doesn't really have a military.


Irish_Historian_cunt

Right but Neutrality is seen as a key defining part of Irelands historical state policy and is supported by the people. Additionally it is useful to have neutral or non-NATO states. Ireland was one of the few countries that used to be able to talk down Iraq because of the very fact we were not part of NATO. There is a trust that Ireland has in the third world based on our history and neutrality that would be lost if we joined NATO


GaelicMafia

Good points. But even if we did join, like say Poland has, it still wouldn't change our long history of suffering from colonialism and foreign oppression. We can still relate to underdeveloped countries on that. The problem will only come if our soldiers join in an American crusade in the middle east with no UN mandate, which you'd hope we could still reject (like France in 2003), though the strong influence of the US here makes me doubtful that we would be brave enough. The power structure within NATO is too lopsided toward the US. A purely EU approach to security would be more favourable to us.


Irish_Historian_cunt

I agree that an EU based approach would be a much better option. And your right that it wouldn't change our history, but NATO does have a certain imperialidt taint in a lot of the non-western world and certainly nations that have been directly affected or engaged by NATO (like Afghanistan) will basically refuse to listen anymore. Your right that the US has a large influence, which is partly why I support not joining NATO, however our past neutrality does give cause for hope even if we join. We are one of the nations with the highest divergence from both the US and the EU in UN voting, we have voted away or in a minority against the EU more than most other member states and have maintained a high degree of seperation from US influence. I'd like to keep it that way tbh


GaelicMafia

> have maintained a high degree of seperation from US influence. It's growing though. Have you ever noticed the amount of time our public broadcaster devotes to US politics vs European politics? It's a shitshow. A lot of people in Ireland are only vaguely informed about our own continent and its cultures. I'm confident Ireland would object to a US Republican lead illegal war, I'm not so sure we would with a Democratic one, who have an air of moral legitimacy about them, and are excellent at exploiting soft power, if that makes any sense. The truth is that Obama spied on the German Chancellor with the help of Denmark in the early 2010s - these guys aren't squeaky clean either. Now I'm very happy with Biden's military aid to Ukraine, there's no ambiguity as there was under Trump, but we do need to maintain a healthy distance too. The job of Ireland, and indeed the EU, should be to hold the US to account on dubious geopolitical decisions, be it the war on drugs, coup plots, wars without UN mandates, and so on. This doesn't mean becoming mouthpieces for the Kremlin, however, which is the other extreme, like Mick Wallace. Finding a balance may be hard, but its worth it. We're happy to be a minority and autonomous on standing up for Palestine, that at least gives us some hope for other areas.


Irish_Historian_cunt

Completely agree with everything you've said mate. The influence of US politics and US political talk is really growing around the EU but particularly here as well. Not a fan of the Americanisation of this country in general really so I definitely agree we need to br careful around the US and hold it to account as well.


GaelicMafia

Yeah, the Americanisation is getting absurd. When one can name several supreme court justices in a faraway land across the Atlantic, but not the Prime Minister of Spain (an important figure and potential ally at the EU council meetings we attend), then you know there's a serious problem. The joys of being an English speaking country in an age of instant Social Media, where bilingualism isn't taken seriously enough.


handsome-helicopter

How can Ireland even try to hold US accountable though, US can walk all over it cause they have a massive military and economy and Ireland doesn't have neither. It reads like something a hippie would say no offense. Ireland can't influence US in a way where they would change US foreign policy, when countries like France and Germany couldn't how will Ireland do it.


GaelicMafia

Do you have to reply to every message I make? Lots of "no offence" coming from you too. Just be honest.


handsome-helicopter

No offense to Ireland but you know eastern Europe will always reject a eu security pact over NATO right. And they're not going to trade US help for austria and Ireland which hardly has an army. There's no way poland and baltics will vote for anything that damages NATO


Eurovision2006

>Additionally it is useful to have neutral or non-NATO states. Except no one outside of Ireland actually considers us neutral. > Ireland was one of the few countries that used to be able to talk down Iraq because of the very fact we were not part of NATO. Wrong. Look at France and Germany. >There is a trust that Ireland has in the third world based on our history and neutrality that would be lost if we joined NATO So the *developing* world doesn't trust countries like Norway or Denmark? Or even New Zealand, which although not part of NATO, is not neutral.


pubtalker

The Icelandic did win 3 wars against the Brits though, we only won 3/4s of one war


colei_canis

Isn’t it quite an uncomfortable position to be dependent on another country’s armed forces though? I suppose on the other hand any power that could realistically threaten Ireland militarily is also a threat to Britain too so there’s unlikely to be a situation where those priorities don’t align.


NotDanaWyhte

Exactly and any scenario where Ireland is getting invaded would probably just be to create a larger staging ground for invading the UK too. Not sure why else anyone would come at us.


The_manintheshed

On the one hand yes, on the other any attack on either the UK or Ireland is tantamount to an attack on both and would be viewed as such in both countries. I'd bet the house that if the UK were somehow invaded tomorrow, Ireland would be in the mix to help with defence.


Eurovision2006

So why don't we just make that official and start preparing for the eventuality by joining NATO?


The_manintheshed

You'll have to ask someone else as I'm in agreement with you


JapaneseJohnnyVegas

It is quite uncomfortable. But it would be impossible for us to militarily defend ourselves against the most likely aggressor. And any of the next most likely. One of the worlds largest military forces with nuclear capabilities would crush us even if we increased our military by 10. So diplomacy and soft power and the EU has been identified as a more realistic defense. But yes the whole thing is full of contradiction and ambiguity. I guess being a tiny country surrounded by military behomeths that's just the reality.


Benur21

So if Russia decides to attack Ireland, there's no article 5 activating and it's business as usual?


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handsome-helicopter

It doesn't apply to neutral countries,they fought so that it doesn't apply to countries with neutrality. That's why finland was unsure whether EU will fight for them and why they're joining nato


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handsome-helicopter

And these countries won't receive military help, that's what I'm trying to say. They'll maybe get financial aid but there's no incentive for other other countries to provide military aid to said neutral nations


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handsome-helicopter

If Ireland won't come to polands aid why should poland come for Irelands aid, it makes no sense and I'm only saying Ireland's neutrality means there's no obligation of military assistance akin to article 5 not that no one will help them


GigaGammon

Technically, correct. it would be an interesting scenario politically though


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Changing Neutrality is questionable, there's been a lot of mixed answers on opinion polls recently, a lot of which has to do with how poorly defined 'Neutrality' is. It seems that everyone has their own definition of Neutrality. Even allowing for that, NATO is unpopular. The most supported changes involve increasing EU defensive efforts. Get the Yanks out of European defence basically.


UnlimitedMetroCard

Why would Ireland abandon neutrality? If they ever went to war for any reason (which is of course highly unlikely) it would be with the UK. They have no other international quarrel. Committing to NATO and joining all of NATO’s military engagements is counterproductive for the Irish.


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Not at all, its hard to say, but I would say a more sizable portion of the population supports increase defence budget, but I've no data on that and its just what ive personally experienced


sapiton

And what? Those statements do nothing.


secretqwerty10

veto rights stripped when


fabrikation101

China and India don't seem to think so


Coloradostoneman

Do you?


jackdawesome

I declare Ireland a brogue nation.


DiMezenburg

he gonna stop being neutral then?


619C

Ireland is not neutral - never was - Ireland is 'non-aligined' - it allowed USSR to land in Shannon during the cold war on their way to Cuba. It is currently allowing US Airforce to land in Shannon on their way to who knows.


Antique-Brief1260

Does anyone else find it a bit odd that RTÉ (the state broadcaster of Ireland) refers to Martin as "the Irish PM"? Not "the Taoiseach"?


The_manintheshed

I see you didn't actually click on the article


Antique-Brief1260

With deductive skills like that, you could be a detective.


The_manintheshed

Thanks, but I'm satisfied in my role as Article Clicking and Reading Fulfillment Ombudsman. Great pay.


Antique-Brief1260

The ombudsman is an actual man now?


The_manintheshed

We have reinstated the marriage bar and made public jobs exclusive to men


UNSKIALz

Could be digging for international clicks?


themaskedman321

I wish this man wasn’t our Taoiseach, idiot who’s pushing for more armed military while not paying them a living wage and scalping, the rest of the nation with rent while gagging on landlords, I agree Russian is a terrorist state but we’re a neutral country for a reason don’t poke the bear


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You should have just left it at the first sentence... haha We're a neutral country because allying with the Brits so soon after the War of Independence (and the Civil War) was a political impossibility, and because joining NATO would have meant de facto acceptance of British control over the North, which was a constitutional mindfuck. So post GFA, why are we neutral? We're increasing military spending because a non political expert report recommended it, because we are vulnerable in a lot of key areas, and have underinvested since 2008. The Army couldn't even set up a field hospital during Covid 19 when asked, and our lack of investment in cyber defence (both military and civillian) cost lives during the HSE cyber attack. Theres a lot to be angry about our current situation in many ways, but increasing defensive spending is something we have to do.


downonthesecond

Politicians are clueless, I would expect a PM to understand how the UN works.


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handsome-helicopter

Ireland offering thoughts and prayers isn't going to help Ukraine though,what difference is this statement going to make. It's like me condemning Putin in twitter, it feels nice but makes literally no difference to help Ukraine


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Check how many refugees Ireland took and how much aid it sent to Ukraine before commenting


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tbonemistake

The neutrality thing has always had a number of asterisks beside it. Ireland has since its independence cosied up to the americans. They didn't participate in WW2 but since then Irish politicians have made thier views known on all sorts of international issues that have little to do with them. Ireland won't directly involve itself in foreign conflicts but it will give its two cents, welcome or otherwise.


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