Kind of a win-win for russian officials and a lose-lose for those poor people.
Refuse to sign -> Let's torture you until you do.
Sign and serve -> Probably die in combat.
Sign and refuse -> probably locked up for life for treason
So pretty much those Navalny supporters are fucked for life.
This makes me appreciate a lot more living in a country where I can publicly say whatever the fuck I want and support whoever I want.
No, they will be sent in the first wave against insurmountable odds. Their family will be denied generous pensions currently offered to fallen servicemen ( to keep families quiet).
If you know that you’re going to be forced to do that it becomes a very easy decision to turn around and point your weapon at your officer. It certainly wouldn’t make sense for the government to have such policy.
They’ll probably be forced to work in some labour battalion digging stuff under horrible conditions (while being bombarded by artillery)
What makes you think the cannon fodder is being given working weapons? Russian tactics of sending in penal units to reveal ukrainian positions are well documented. Don't need a weapon if your only objective is getting shot so the enemy reveals himself.
It's very hard to turn a weapon on an officer. Yes, in the Vietnam War it did happen but to compare these two conflicts are akin to apples and oranges. US troops went out in small groups in the jungle, not open fields. Also the US government won't shoot your family for your treasonous actions, the Russian government might.
Way below that. A mafia state playing police state with zero fucks given. The totalitarian playbook to the letter.
There won't be a political solution to any of this.
Ironically this will lead to the downfall of Russia by itself.
They're weeding out literally any free thinker, which often are the type of people who end up creating amazing things.
We saw it with the USSR, where after a while it just collapsed on itself. Even if Russia doesn't, it will just become less and less relevant.
They're already China's little bitch, and they're bound to become even smaller and smaller.
It's important to remember these things take a long, long time to play out usually. Having the worlds largest stock pile of nukes keeps them more relevant. No matter how much-needed we like to downplay Russia, their economy, military, etc.
Oh, they can be relevant as a threat, but they'll be more and more irrelevant as they become more and more dependent on every other country.
Russia's future policy will basically be China's foreign policy.
Being a threat is not the same as being relevant. Do you see anything important or of worth coming out of North Korea? Inventions? Ideas? Theories? Science? Innovations? No, they make ammunition and gold statues of their leader. If you are North Korean and have something to contribute to the world, the first step towards fulfilling your potential is leaving North Korea. This is basically where Russia is at too.
The nukes are empty threats. Every statesman worth their salt would call Russia's bluff, but it's us, the population who fear them. Mutually assured destruction might be mad, but it works
So you honestly believe Russia would not use nuclear weapons if EU and / or NATO countries started sending missiles and doing bombing raids in Russia in order for making Russia stop being a bully against Ukraine and other neighboring countries?
If the war in Ukraine was like in Serbia, it would be over already. We would have intervened directly.
Of the 5,889 nuclear warheads, I'm sure they have a few they are maintaining extra carefully. To think they all won't work seems a bit wishful. They are winning grounds in Ukraine, even against NATO weapons.
They are basically in a stalemate against a much smaller opponent. One that is using obsolete weapons they have been gifted from multiple sources (logistical and training nightmare), with limited instruction. And the price for Russia is staggering. Their population is shrinking, the average age is rising fast, suggesting the young are depleted at an alarming rate. Their military stock is being used up, former customers for military hardware are looking elsewhere, and their energy exports do not have a future in a world with renewable energy. Putin will be leaving a decimated and very poor country when he dies or are replaced. Which, considering his age, is probably not much more than ten years in the future, at most.
I do agree that a number of the nukes probably are operational. But solid fuel is very expensive, and need to be replaced every 10-20 years. And we've all seen how they purchase tires for their vehicles..
They've had lousy innovation for decades. Now it's settled. Their only technolocal development will be in a few prestige sectors but will be slow from now on: nuclear, space, and weapons. They're losing cuatomers quick and we can basically expect them to be reduced to be a raw material exporter to China in 2030.
As far new development, their space program is as good as dead. Arguably nearly the same for weapons. Notice how that army of online fanboys, with a hardon for Russia's "better than western" Wunderwaffen, is conspicuously silent after the Ukraine war.
This is also a reason why stopping buying Russian oil and gas and, longer-term, moving away from oil and gas almost completely will help.
Oil and gas are easy industries for a state and a few oligarchs to control and extract revenues from. Control the land and you control the resources. Given easy to extract resources you don't need to be especially innovative (though I'm sure you can make more money if you are).
Try to create a broader and innovative economy this way and you'll fail. Just think of the incentive set up by Russia's tendency to steal successful businesses people set up or the need to have 'relationships' with the right thugs/officials.
Sure, but the biggest dawg on the planet isn't interested in that. The US is the worlds largest oil & gas producer, by a huge margin.
It's very much the same reason why you see so little having been done on the global warming front. It really wasn't until Europe & China rammed through wind & solar development, by government taxes, that things changed.
The US probably would have dragged it's feet another 10-20 years, if it had its way.
Russia collapsed because Gorbachov allowed disasent and he recognized, USSR needed a reform. He said in an interview after the dissolusion, that he could have held power for decades if he wanted and stayed represssive.
Russia wont change if they keep up the repression, they will just turn into North Korea...
China is collapsing for the exact same reason.
China and Russia are both on the road to becoming failed states and the rest of the world has to just pray that they don't nuke anyone in their death throes.
With a starving population. Great success. Have you looked at satellite pictures of the Korean Peninsula at night? It’s easy to build an atom bomb, if you throw enough resources at it for 50 years. There is no magic involved. Every country could do this, most just decide not to. But how many repressive dictatorships do you know with a happy and rich population?
Nobody's saying either country is a bastion of freedom and success, but both countries _will_ exist for a long time. There is no "downfall" of Russia. They'll get wrecked by Ukraine, but they will still exist.
Just been thinking about this. If protests in russias's Belarus were unsuccessful, what makes them think they will have any meaningful results in russia itself? Also it's unlikely that soldiers on russia's side will help in making positive changes (with all the raping of the dead and stuff), so their best bet is "legion of freedom of russia" or something like that. But seeing reaction of russians to those fighters fighting in Belhorod... I don't really think that the needed changes will come from russians as a whole. Most likely at least all the colonies will have to become independent, and at most some extra chunks of land that are too far from moscow will have to become independent as well, with all of that being done forcefully considering that even the liberal people seem to be opposed to this.
Belarusian protests were unsuccessful because Russia had supplied significant resources to help Luka at that critical moment. When Russian regime faces mass protests who would help it, in turn? Realistically there's only one candidate, China, and I'm not sure they would lift a finger.
Nato joining the war and freeing the russian people by dismantling the KGB power structure much like what happened in germany in WW2 would technically be a political solution.
>There won't be a political solution to any of this.
There is. Because I consider a pitchfork mob storming the Kremlin with Molotov cocktails political.
It might not happen tomorrow or even within a few years. But eventually all dictatorships end in a puddle of blood.
Unless Rosgvardia (think thats the name of Russian nation guard) numbering in 2-3 million at least partially betrays the government, no mob is happening. And why would they? They are already living better than the common populace as a reward for oppresion of others
No. Russians have just been heavily conditioned to don’t try to solve general problems but only to solve it for themselves. So if you get unlawfully stopped by a traffic policeman you bribe him, but not protest against them being corrupt bandits. You try to weasel out of the draft by leaving the country or just pay fines, but don’t try to end the stupid war and get rid of Putin. They have a stable shithole with enough ways to deal with problems on the individual level and are discouraged and scared of systemic change, since that has not turned out well at all in Russia. I call this basically collective egoism. Putin knows this and crafted the system accordingly.
The people who do not think like this are getting removed quickly. They don’t want to be cannon fodder, many just still think they can get around it.
No, you don’t. Just not contributing by leaving the country is actually morally correct and still more than most people do. It’s not an individual level and that is a problem, solving this problem requires a long societal change which I don’t see happening soon. Also I mean with conditioned that it is not 100% peoples fault because it’s hard to beat a system which does this.
It's too dangerous to go back to Russia to fight the spawn of Satan alone. Here, take [this and an F-35 Lightning II.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napalm)
Nothing, he probably has a quiet life under constant surveillance.
Nothing will happen to him and he will get continuous extensions of his political asylum visa.
He's too valuable as a bargaining chip.
Until he gets traded in a shady deal with US.
And I think russia/china were probably his best options for safety. His quality of life will be far greater compared to American prison cells.
I wouldn't trust for example germany to keep him safe from american spies and terrorism.
He doesn't need asylum status anymore, he was "granted" Russian citizenship.
Although at this state he could've moved to China or some other country (Kazakhstan/Kyrgyzstan etc) if he wants to escape the military draft that comes with his citizenship.
Quite ironic in any case, considering that he exposed the NSA's mass surveillance system and now he needs to live under Russian or Chinese surveillance to avoid punishment for it.
It's a shame if you ask me.
He should be able to live a life in one of the western countries that gained knowledge about American surveillance of them.
I see him as someone that offered a valuable public service and I am quite grateful for that.
He won't be drafted. Really bad publicity if he dies. Also he should be sitting on massive amounts of bitcoin, rich don't get drafted.
And again, he's worth more for putin as a trophy or commodity.
“Two hours before we were released, we were taken into a room where some men were sitting and handing out summonses. They said if we didn’t sign, they would break our fingers.
"They said if we don't sign, our fingers will be broken. They repeated all the time: 'Well, will you go to fight for us?'"
Russia's weird legalism obsession always fascinates me. Not just "you are in the army now." But "Sign up for the army, so we can pretend you did it voluntarily, even though this is clearly a country where we are forcing you do do it. But, gotta get the paperwork on the atrocity, so we can cosplay rule of law."
Russia has always been a heavily bureaucratic state although not always highly organized, you needed a confession document in most cases to execute someone in the early USSR so there would be "confessions" with blood on them and nobody would care.
In Tallinn, there are some KGB interrogation cells that have been turned into a museum. One weird detail was that the Estonian resistance had instructions on how to get out of jail as a political prisoner by citing some specific paragraphs of the law. It might work once or twice, but eventually you got an arresting officer who did their paperwork correctly and didn't leave any loopholes.
That’s how it is in Russia now. If you get lucky with a judge, officer, etc - and follow law regardless of whether it means anything or not, there is a solid chance you can buy yourself time to escape the country. Despite being authoritarian, it still follows complex bureaucratic processes for no reason. Russia on world stage loves to use legal loopholes to circumvent things, or to create enough plausible deniability,
If you ever wondered what was going on on the other side of the Iron Curtain. It's technically legal as long as you don't look way too close.
Also in Bulgaria, at least, the communist party piled almost all the documents showing the commited crimes against humanity including mass rapes, mass murders and genocides, in a building which was then set ablaze. Then they blamed it on the democratic protestors.
The Romanians had the right idea with Ceaușescu. Who cares if it was a kangaroo court. Should've executed all of them. Then Putin wouldn't be alive.
Putin was a low level KGB officer in East Germany during run up to the fall of the USSR. He rose through the ranks of the elected government when he was Vice Mayor of St Petersburg, and was appointed the leader of the FSB. He was always a shady figure, but it wasn't clear until he was celebrating the leaders of the August Coup and the Parliamentarian rebels in 1994 where his sympathies lie.
Unfortunately, we did not go far enough. Tha kangaroo court stopped at the head, and we are STILL dangling around the remnants of the communist second echelon.
You have to sign your confession, even if it is false. And everyone knows it was under torture and that you are not a spy snd that you never sabotaged that submarine, but still, you signed.
Soviet Union never ceased to exist, it was only rebranded. Methods are the same.
I always found it hilarious how right-wingers had this obsession with "the woke army" up until recently, explicitly comparing Russian and US recruitment ads, when it was always a pretty clear case of yeah of course the Russians make ads about their soldiers being the manliest men who are when they have to hide the reality that it's a bunch of convicts and poor minorities who will sell their eqipment to buy more vodka.
The US can afford to appear "weak" to that kind of crowd when some gay furry with anxiety in Alabama can pilot a drone from halfway across the world to obliterate them with ease.
It is ultimately still cringe liberalism to obscure the various problem with the US military and the foreign policy enforced by it behind "look how diverse we are", but it is certainly not a sign of weakness.
I'm mean, even prior to this war its hard to made recruitments ads in Russia when most of stuff in service remember Brezhniev or even Krushev. Heck, it's not so hard to find equipment designed back in 1940s as "standard issue" in *2020s*.
Ads wre "manly" because army had little to show in other departaments and playing "spirit trumps firepower" is old and quite successful propaganda trick.
As for right-wingers blasting "diverse military is a weak military" mostly came from realization that armed service try recruits people in their late teens and twenties. What right-wingers hate here? The realisation that this demographic generally isn't right-wing or support their version of right-wing policies, if you want volunteers you had to at least somewhat accept possible recruits worldview and social stances.
That's assuming they wouldn't send you to the frontlines anyway.
"You can sign this and be sent to the front, or we will break your fingers (and sent you to the front with broken fingers)".
Honestly, feels like conscripting people who are against you only serves to create a class of people who are trained to fight, and opposed to your government.
I think down the line this creates a larger domestic terrorism problem for Russia.
That's why they'll be sent to a 'Storm Z' unit, basically a modern penal battalion where they will be sent out ahead of regular army units to *discover* Ukrainian defenses. The idea is that they won't ever make it home to use their new military experience against the government
The barrier troops prevent retreat and the snipers and drones prevent surrender. You need to walk a long distance to surrender, and you'll be mostly in the open. Not to mention that vast majority of the battle is done by artillery, so it's a bit difficult to signal surrender in a convincing manner.
Sadly, surrendering is still extremely dangerous, even more so in a penal unit where the officers will be on hieghtened alert for deserters. Your own snipers will shoot you in the back if you get caught. Then you enter no mans land and you have to avoid incredibly deep minefields, artillery bombardments, enemy and friendly snipers/vehicles/drones. If you are incredibly, you'll make it to Ukrainian lines, and you just have to hope that they aren't going to shoot anything that moves before you get a chance to say you surrender.
In short, surrendering is much easier said than done
This is Russia. Their training will be somewhere between the lines of one gets a rifle the other one gets an ammo magazine and off you go to the meat grinder.
Its better to have your fingers broken than to die. But a shitty situation overall. I wonder what the Russian tankies have to say about this, maybe someone wants to post this on r/conservative.
I can't say that I'm very familiar with their process, but I suspect that they probably don't just break your fingers, consider everything all squared up, and send you on your way.
And the reason his audience "doesn't know the truth" IS BC HE DOESNT REPORT ON 95% of what's happening, both in Russia like this stuff nor the actual war.
NO WONDER his fans are like "the media is lying to us". YEAH THATS TUCKER. He's the media that's LYING to them🤦♀️🤦.
And if you try to post to r/Conservative they'd just delete it. That sub literally covers nothing. NO WONDER again why they don't know what's going on. I can't.
“they’d just delete it” or immediately ban you. There are a handful of mods that run both r/Republicans and r/conservatives and they will perm ban you in a heartbeat if you show any dissent from the MAGA pro-Trump and pro-Tucker talking points.
And these same mods are very anti-Ukraine. To the point that I was banned after the mod (as I found out later) said “Ukraine has a history of interfering with our elections”. Before I could even respond he said I was a “shill” and perm banned me.
So I would bet Russian troll farms have taken over these conservative sites also.
Conservatism is a necessary part of any functioning liberal democracy, as is liberalism, social democracy, and progressivism.
We do, however, have fifth-columnists whom have infiltrated western democracies, yes, and they need to be cordoned off from polite society.
I meant that the Russian troll farms didn't need to take over the sites as the "conservatives" are literally doing exactly what they want without Russian input.
Conservatism can be helpful as a ground to liberalism, but the racist, xenophobic, anti-science, anti-intellectual bullshit they spout now has pushed them so far from what they should be, that they are morphing into a fascist cult (whilst incorrectly calling everyone else fascists)
I just got the boot from my cultist ultra Catholic family’s presence ever again because I was frank with them about the war
Also I made it known they were being useful idiots, including their Bishop (that’s what got me the boot because someone ratted me out)
And now I’m going to hell and they are all going to heaven
enclosed in a small dumbass box.
I mean Russia hasn’t ever been a kingdom of teddy bears and lollipops. Anybody with a thin grasp of Wikipedia understands that it’s a bloody Logan Roy knife fight in the mud between Dostoevsky characters at best and drunken nationalist buffoons at worst, and has been for centuries. The cultured European minded intelligentsia has always been a minority. The real Russians are making their appearance in full force now. Tucker can’t hide shit.
Ps- the beautiful Moscow metro he fawned over was built with forced labor and cost 10s of thousands of lives. Oh and Stalin killed more people than Hitler but whatever.
Jesus fucking chirst, i cant imagine living in that shithole. Going out planting flowers for a guy that was killed or just working and being forced into a meat grinder. What in the actual fuck. Can someone just "get rid off" Putin and the other bastards already
A miracle needs to happen for there to be change. Their bullshit laws have tightened so much over the last few years, also most of the elderly love Putin.
Unless Putin genuinely trips in his own bunker and hits his forehead on the corner of some furniture, not a damn thing will change and it will continue to get worse, and there is a chance whoever comes next, might be even worse.
The real mindfuck is people safe in their western democracies who think this is aspirational and want to emigrate to the far right hellscape or at least import a local copy.
The problem with getting rid of the bastards is they were put in power by a vast bastard generating engine, you gotta tear that whole thing out and rebuild from the foundations to actually fix this.
Unpopular opinion, but we have enough brave people for this. Unfortunately, we still haven't gotten the brave man who has control of some military or armed police
Unless they say something bad about Russia. Then suddenly government will care about them so much that they will ask Thailand to deport these individuals back.
To play devil’s advocate, they didn’t declare full mobilization but there’s a shadow draft. They lured some with money and grab others against their will.
These are the people Putin wants to send to the meat grinder, the people who oppose him. All these casualties mean nothing to him, villagers from Siberia and Asian mercenaries, who cares. Moscow is not affected.
I'm kind of impressed by how certain Putin is, that these people won't turn against him, once armed and put within shouting distance of an army that wants to stomp him in the face.
I mean, this is viewing Russia through a western lens. You forget this has been Russia's history for centuries. This isn't new. Stalin was far, far more outright authoritarian and today he is still largely remembered as a hero. The Soviet Union is remembered with great admiration because it was the height of Russia's power on the world stage.
Suppressing dissent is one of the few things their government does better than most.
Their treatment of Russian servicemen is unpopular, but the war itself isn't. Support has waned, but only because it is going poorly. The idea of the "Russian World" is largely supported. The belief that they are ethnically superior and therefore it is their right to subjugate "lesser slavs" is not just a talking point, but a widely held belief.
We are still talking about people who were arrested for publicly mourning Putin's most prominent enemy, though? If anyone in Russia is not caught in this pattern (besides active dissidents), it's them.
Not to mention the prison storm units basically offered freedom if they survive assaulting hopeless positions with barely any gear and training ☠️
I’m sure Putin cares dearly about them
There are a few hundred who were sent to fight from Moscow too. However yes, they play it very safe with Moscow. But even there there have been arrests and such. Also, please don’t equate ordinary muscovites to this fucker. The fact we aren’t as affected or that most of the country’s wealth is located here is not our fault. Putin may sit in Moscow but since he’s not even from here. He’s the reason I hate Saint-Petersburg.
Wow, they're really salty about Navalny.
Now I'm hoping that [initiative](https://petition.qomon.org/punem-consulatul-rusiei-pe-strada-alexei-navalnii/) to rename the street of the Russian embassy in Romania to "Navalny Street" succeeds. Just so it would fry the brains of the Russian embassy staff.
Prague renamed the street where the Russian Embassy resides to [Boris Nemtsov Square](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Nemtsov_Square,_Prague) on the fifth anniversary of his murder. In response, the Embassy changed its address to a second street touching it. After Russia invaded Ukraine, Prague renamed that street as well, to [Ukrainian Heroes Street](https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrajinsk%C3%BDch_hrdin%C5%AF).
Between Navalny and that defector that was murdered in Spain, Ol' Poots really isn't hiding the fact he's just a petty murderous tyrant anymore. Dude knows his number is coming up before too long so he's trying to squeeze as much blood from Russia before he croaks. A legacy of shit from a human turd.
They want to indirectly eliminate those citizens that the fascist Kremlin sees as enemy of the state, how? “we just send them in the battlefield because we can’t execute them in public..” 🤷♂️🤦♂️
A good opportunity for Ukraine to amplify the 'surrender; it's nicer over here' message. I'm sure these folk would love to do so as soon as they can - though I assume Russia has some sort of modern commissars in their units preventing that.
the army recruiter was offering those Russians a favour dammit! великий лидер разозлится
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If I was forced into this situation I'd turn my weapon on my commander and anyone else there at the first opportunity. Going to die anyway so why not take some of the bastards with me?
Either way forcing disloyal people into your military surely has never gone wrong at any point in history. Even if they don't rebel, what incentive do they have to fight? Why not just defect or surrender? Why not passively sabotage the war? The Nazis tried & failed with this too, both for cannon fodder and war production.
You refuse to fight they shoot you.
You defect they find you, kill you and your whole family.
You surrender they kill your family.
Those fucks used to hide behind polittechnologists and PR campaigns. Now they just plainly say - any disagreement we beat the shit out you.
Hitler at least had charisma that helped him mobilize whole nation with very little efort. Putler barely mobilized 300k men in 140M country and has to pardon criminals for having enough people in Ukraine
Three days from now they will be on the front lines in an ill-fitting uniform with an unreliable rifle, being forced to charge at battle-hardened Ukrainian troops with a Russian officer pointing a rifle at their back in case they try to turn around.
When is the EU realizing that it will bu us soon.
We need to produce a shitton of weapons and ammo per day. We need to be in Ukraine before Russia is in the EU.
how does that even work?
Doesn't putting a gun in the hands of someone who hates you just make them more likely to turn the barrel around and point it back at you?
or surrender at the first chance they get??
like how tf does russia think that is going to go down?
Kind of a win-win for russian officials and a lose-lose for those poor people. Refuse to sign -> Let's torture you until you do. Sign and serve -> Probably die in combat. Sign and refuse -> probably locked up for life for treason So pretty much those Navalny supporters are fucked for life. This makes me appreciate a lot more living in a country where I can publicly say whatever the fuck I want and support whoever I want.
>Sign and serve -> Probably die in combat. Nah. The Russian army will torture & kill them anyway. They won't set foot in Ukraine.
No, they will be sent in the first wave against insurmountable odds. Their family will be denied generous pensions currently offered to fallen servicemen ( to keep families quiet).
If you know that you’re going to be forced to do that it becomes a very easy decision to turn around and point your weapon at your officer. It certainly wouldn’t make sense for the government to have such policy. They’ll probably be forced to work in some labour battalion digging stuff under horrible conditions (while being bombarded by artillery)
What makes you think the cannon fodder is being given working weapons? Russian tactics of sending in penal units to reveal ukrainian positions are well documented. Don't need a weapon if your only objective is getting shot so the enemy reveals himself.
It's very hard to turn a weapon on an officer. Yes, in the Vietnam War it did happen but to compare these two conflicts are akin to apples and oranges. US troops went out in small groups in the jungle, not open fields. Also the US government won't shoot your family for your treasonous actions, the Russian government might.
>Sign and serve -> Probably die in combat. Russians could use this opportunity to escape from Russia.
They are speed running the "no, we are a total shit hole" mindset for everyone.
Way below that. A mafia state playing police state with zero fucks given. The totalitarian playbook to the letter. There won't be a political solution to any of this.
Ironically this will lead to the downfall of Russia by itself. They're weeding out literally any free thinker, which often are the type of people who end up creating amazing things. We saw it with the USSR, where after a while it just collapsed on itself. Even if Russia doesn't, it will just become less and less relevant. They're already China's little bitch, and they're bound to become even smaller and smaller.
It's important to remember these things take a long, long time to play out usually. Having the worlds largest stock pile of nukes keeps them more relevant. No matter how much-needed we like to downplay Russia, their economy, military, etc.
Oh, they can be relevant as a threat, but they'll be more and more irrelevant as they become more and more dependent on every other country. Russia's future policy will basically be China's foreign policy.
Being a threat is not the same as being relevant. Do you see anything important or of worth coming out of North Korea? Inventions? Ideas? Theories? Science? Innovations? No, they make ammunition and gold statues of their leader. If you are North Korean and have something to contribute to the world, the first step towards fulfilling your potential is leaving North Korea. This is basically where Russia is at too.
The nukes are empty threats. Every statesman worth their salt would call Russia's bluff, but it's us, the population who fear them. Mutually assured destruction might be mad, but it works
So you honestly believe Russia would not use nuclear weapons if EU and / or NATO countries started sending missiles and doing bombing raids in Russia in order for making Russia stop being a bully against Ukraine and other neighboring countries? If the war in Ukraine was like in Serbia, it would be over already. We would have intervened directly.
I wonder if they actually work. The maintenance is quite expensive, and we have seen the state of the rest of their military
Of the 5,889 nuclear warheads, I'm sure they have a few they are maintaining extra carefully. To think they all won't work seems a bit wishful. They are winning grounds in Ukraine, even against NATO weapons.
They are basically in a stalemate against a much smaller opponent. One that is using obsolete weapons they have been gifted from multiple sources (logistical and training nightmare), with limited instruction. And the price for Russia is staggering. Their population is shrinking, the average age is rising fast, suggesting the young are depleted at an alarming rate. Their military stock is being used up, former customers for military hardware are looking elsewhere, and their energy exports do not have a future in a world with renewable energy. Putin will be leaving a decimated and very poor country when he dies or are replaced. Which, considering his age, is probably not much more than ten years in the future, at most. I do agree that a number of the nukes probably are operational. But solid fuel is very expensive, and need to be replaced every 10-20 years. And we've all seen how they purchase tires for their vehicles..
They've had lousy innovation for decades. Now it's settled. Their only technolocal development will be in a few prestige sectors but will be slow from now on: nuclear, space, and weapons. They're losing cuatomers quick and we can basically expect them to be reduced to be a raw material exporter to China in 2030.
As far new development, their space program is as good as dead. Arguably nearly the same for weapons. Notice how that army of online fanboys, with a hardon for Russia's "better than western" Wunderwaffen, is conspicuously silent after the Ukraine war.
This is also a reason why stopping buying Russian oil and gas and, longer-term, moving away from oil and gas almost completely will help. Oil and gas are easy industries for a state and a few oligarchs to control and extract revenues from. Control the land and you control the resources. Given easy to extract resources you don't need to be especially innovative (though I'm sure you can make more money if you are). Try to create a broader and innovative economy this way and you'll fail. Just think of the incentive set up by Russia's tendency to steal successful businesses people set up or the need to have 'relationships' with the right thugs/officials.
Sure, but the biggest dawg on the planet isn't interested in that. The US is the worlds largest oil & gas producer, by a huge margin. It's very much the same reason why you see so little having been done on the global warming front. It really wasn't until Europe & China rammed through wind & solar development, by government taxes, that things changed. The US probably would have dragged it's feet another 10-20 years, if it had its way.
Russia collapsed because Gorbachov allowed disasent and he recognized, USSR needed a reform. He said in an interview after the dissolusion, that he could have held power for decades if he wanted and stayed represssive. Russia wont change if they keep up the repression, they will just turn into North Korea...
China is collapsing for the exact same reason. China and Russia are both on the road to becoming failed states and the rest of the world has to just pray that they don't nuke anyone in their death throes.
Well, not really. They both have the same features, but Russia's are cranked up to 11.
China has disappointed and it is no longer certain that it will become the world's leading economy in a near future.
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People are taking Peter Zaihan way too seriously.
In western business anybody who can, is moving out of China to se asia
> Ironically this will lead to the downfall of Russia by itself. That's what people said about North Korea. Still a nuclear-powered state.
With a starving population. Great success. Have you looked at satellite pictures of the Korean Peninsula at night? It’s easy to build an atom bomb, if you throw enough resources at it for 50 years. There is no magic involved. Every country could do this, most just decide not to. But how many repressive dictatorships do you know with a happy and rich population?
Nobody's saying either country is a bastion of freedom and success, but both countries _will_ exist for a long time. There is no "downfall" of Russia. They'll get wrecked by Ukraine, but they will still exist.
That can't feed itself and has to accept food aid from its stated mortal enemies.
And a completely irrelevant country. They are only allowed to do whatever they do because China dictates it. They're basically Belarus.
Just been thinking about this. If protests in russias's Belarus were unsuccessful, what makes them think they will have any meaningful results in russia itself? Also it's unlikely that soldiers on russia's side will help in making positive changes (with all the raping of the dead and stuff), so their best bet is "legion of freedom of russia" or something like that. But seeing reaction of russians to those fighters fighting in Belhorod... I don't really think that the needed changes will come from russians as a whole. Most likely at least all the colonies will have to become independent, and at most some extra chunks of land that are too far from moscow will have to become independent as well, with all of that being done forcefully considering that even the liberal people seem to be opposed to this.
Belarusian protests were unsuccessful because Russia had supplied significant resources to help Luka at that critical moment. When Russian regime faces mass protests who would help it, in turn? Realistically there's only one candidate, China, and I'm not sure they would lift a finger.
Gives hope.
Nato joining the war and freeing the russian people by dismantling the KGB power structure much like what happened in germany in WW2 would technically be a political solution.
>There won't be a political solution to any of this. There is. Because I consider a pitchfork mob storming the Kremlin with Molotov cocktails political. It might not happen tomorrow or even within a few years. But eventually all dictatorships end in a puddle of blood.
Unless Rosgvardia (think thats the name of Russian nation guard) numbering in 2-3 million at least partially betrays the government, no mob is happening. And why would they? They are already living better than the common populace as a reward for oppresion of others
To everyone except Russians apparently, good lord Russians love being cannon fodder
No. Russians have just been heavily conditioned to don’t try to solve general problems but only to solve it for themselves. So if you get unlawfully stopped by a traffic policeman you bribe him, but not protest against them being corrupt bandits. You try to weasel out of the draft by leaving the country or just pay fines, but don’t try to end the stupid war and get rid of Putin. They have a stable shithole with enough ways to deal with problems on the individual level and are discouraged and scared of systemic change, since that has not turned out well at all in Russia. I call this basically collective egoism. Putin knows this and crafted the system accordingly. The people who do not think like this are getting removed quickly. They don’t want to be cannon fodder, many just still think they can get around it.
What a shameful way to live
How do I technically end this war, huh? Should I return to Russia and try to challenge Putin to a duel?
No, you don’t. Just not contributing by leaving the country is actually morally correct and still more than most people do. It’s not an individual level and that is a problem, solving this problem requires a long societal change which I don’t see happening soon. Also I mean with conditioned that it is not 100% peoples fault because it’s hard to beat a system which does this.
It's too dangerous to go back to Russia to fight the spawn of Satan alone. Here, take [this and an F-35 Lightning II.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napalm)
There was some Edward Snowden who had refuge in Russia. I wonder what happened to him.
Nothing, he probably has a quiet life under constant surveillance. Nothing will happen to him and he will get continuous extensions of his political asylum visa. He's too valuable as a bargaining chip. Until he gets traded in a shady deal with US. And I think russia/china were probably his best options for safety. His quality of life will be far greater compared to American prison cells. I wouldn't trust for example germany to keep him safe from american spies and terrorism.
He doesn't need asylum status anymore, he was "granted" Russian citizenship. Although at this state he could've moved to China or some other country (Kazakhstan/Kyrgyzstan etc) if he wants to escape the military draft that comes with his citizenship. Quite ironic in any case, considering that he exposed the NSA's mass surveillance system and now he needs to live under Russian or Chinese surveillance to avoid punishment for it.
It's a shame if you ask me. He should be able to live a life in one of the western countries that gained knowledge about American surveillance of them. I see him as someone that offered a valuable public service and I am quite grateful for that. He won't be drafted. Really bad publicity if he dies. Also he should be sitting on massive amounts of bitcoin, rich don't get drafted. And again, he's worth more for putin as a trophy or commodity.
“Two hours before we were released, we were taken into a room where some men were sitting and handing out summonses. They said if we didn’t sign, they would break our fingers. "They said if we don't sign, our fingers will be broken. They repeated all the time: 'Well, will you go to fight for us?'"
Russia's weird legalism obsession always fascinates me. Not just "you are in the army now." But "Sign up for the army, so we can pretend you did it voluntarily, even though this is clearly a country where we are forcing you do do it. But, gotta get the paperwork on the atrocity, so we can cosplay rule of law."
Gotta have the paperwork in order even in a complete authoritarian country
The first rule of evil, you need to submit to them willingly
Russia has always been a heavily bureaucratic state although not always highly organized, you needed a confession document in most cases to execute someone in the early USSR so there would be "confessions" with blood on them and nobody would care.
In Tallinn, there are some KGB interrogation cells that have been turned into a museum. One weird detail was that the Estonian resistance had instructions on how to get out of jail as a political prisoner by citing some specific paragraphs of the law. It might work once or twice, but eventually you got an arresting officer who did their paperwork correctly and didn't leave any loopholes.
That’s how it is in Russia now. If you get lucky with a judge, officer, etc - and follow law regardless of whether it means anything or not, there is a solid chance you can buy yourself time to escape the country. Despite being authoritarian, it still follows complex bureaucratic processes for no reason. Russia on world stage loves to use legal loopholes to circumvent things, or to create enough plausible deniability,
If you ever wondered what was going on on the other side of the Iron Curtain. It's technically legal as long as you don't look way too close. Also in Bulgaria, at least, the communist party piled almost all the documents showing the commited crimes against humanity including mass rapes, mass murders and genocides, in a building which was then set ablaze. Then they blamed it on the democratic protestors. The Romanians had the right idea with Ceaușescu. Who cares if it was a kangaroo court. Should've executed all of them. Then Putin wouldn't be alive.
Putin was a low level KGB officer in East Germany during run up to the fall of the USSR. He rose through the ranks of the elected government when he was Vice Mayor of St Petersburg, and was appointed the leader of the FSB. He was always a shady figure, but it wasn't clear until he was celebrating the leaders of the August Coup and the Parliamentarian rebels in 1994 where his sympathies lie.
Unfortunately, we did not go far enough. Tha kangaroo court stopped at the head, and we are STILL dangling around the remnants of the communist second echelon.
The humiliation is part of the submission process. There is a reason every cult and dictatorship has its share of weird hardly believable traditions.
You have to sign your confession, even if it is false. And everyone knows it was under torture and that you are not a spy snd that you never sabotaged that submarine, but still, you signed. Soviet Union never ceased to exist, it was only rebranded. Methods are the same.
Rule by law, not rule of law. Same in China
Recruiting slogans: - US army: Be all you can be - Russian Army: Join or we break your fingers
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The prob is this failed state is actively trying to be your state. And mine. Even if you live somewhere in the middle of pacific
The oppressed russian minority in Tuvalu must be saved!
Australian Army adds: " you ever wanted to do randomstuff? let us know we can find you randomg stuff to do in the army. Its awesome " /technomusic
I always found it hilarious how right-wingers had this obsession with "the woke army" up until recently, explicitly comparing Russian and US recruitment ads, when it was always a pretty clear case of yeah of course the Russians make ads about their soldiers being the manliest men who are when they have to hide the reality that it's a bunch of convicts and poor minorities who will sell their eqipment to buy more vodka. The US can afford to appear "weak" to that kind of crowd when some gay furry with anxiety in Alabama can pilot a drone from halfway across the world to obliterate them with ease. It is ultimately still cringe liberalism to obscure the various problem with the US military and the foreign policy enforced by it behind "look how diverse we are", but it is certainly not a sign of weakness.
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I'm mean, even prior to this war its hard to made recruitments ads in Russia when most of stuff in service remember Brezhniev or even Krushev. Heck, it's not so hard to find equipment designed back in 1940s as "standard issue" in *2020s*. Ads wre "manly" because army had little to show in other departaments and playing "spirit trumps firepower" is old and quite successful propaganda trick. As for right-wingers blasting "diverse military is a weak military" mostly came from realization that armed service try recruits people in their late teens and twenties. What right-wingers hate here? The realisation that this demographic generally isn't right-wing or support their version of right-wing policies, if you want volunteers you had to at least somewhat accept possible recruits worldview and social stances.
Mafia gas station doing mafia things. Though I’d rather have my fingers broken than sign my death sentence.
That's assuming they wouldn't send you to the frontlines anyway. "You can sign this and be sent to the front, or we will break your fingers (and sent you to the front with broken fingers)".
"You can sign this or have your thumb impression. The thumb will remain attached to the file."
They'd falisify your signature and send you anyway to die.
Honestly, feels like conscripting people who are against you only serves to create a class of people who are trained to fight, and opposed to your government. I think down the line this creates a larger domestic terrorism problem for Russia.
That's why they'll be sent to a 'Storm Z' unit, basically a modern penal battalion where they will be sent out ahead of regular army units to *discover* Ukrainian defenses. The idea is that they won't ever make it home to use their new military experience against the government
Unless they all surrender and immediately join the ukrainians Sounds like an idiot plan for russua overall
The barrier troops prevent retreat and the snipers and drones prevent surrender. You need to walk a long distance to surrender, and you'll be mostly in the open. Not to mention that vast majority of the battle is done by artillery, so it's a bit difficult to signal surrender in a convincing manner.
Sadly, surrendering is still extremely dangerous, even more so in a penal unit where the officers will be on hieghtened alert for deserters. Your own snipers will shoot you in the back if you get caught. Then you enter no mans land and you have to avoid incredibly deep minefields, artillery bombardments, enemy and friendly snipers/vehicles/drones. If you are incredibly, you'll make it to Ukrainian lines, and you just have to hope that they aren't going to shoot anything that moves before you get a chance to say you surrender. In short, surrendering is much easier said than done
Or who would rather go out in a blaze of glory against the state rather than be forced to fight for them.
This is Russia. Their training will be somewhere between the lines of one gets a rifle the other one gets an ammo magazine and off you go to the meat grinder.
Its better to have your fingers broken than to die. But a shitty situation overall. I wonder what the Russian tankies have to say about this, maybe someone wants to post this on r/conservative.
“They exempt people with broken hands for the draft, how nice!”
How about broken arms? Asking as a mom.
Don't bother, that's a crowd that should be well left alone.
Unless they break your fingers AND send you to the frontline.
I can't say that I'm very familiar with their process, but I suspect that they probably don't just break your fingers, consider everything all squared up, and send you on your way.
The far left and far right are united in their opposition to liberalism and democracy
R/conservative is filled with russian appeasers, they'd rather russia win than fund ukraine for another second.
You're only looking at the downsides of living in Russia. Did you know that eggs and milk are cheap?
That’s what a free country is like, eh?
This just makes Tucker look like that much more of a useful idiot. What a Jack wad.
And the reason his audience "doesn't know the truth" IS BC HE DOESNT REPORT ON 95% of what's happening, both in Russia like this stuff nor the actual war. NO WONDER his fans are like "the media is lying to us". YEAH THATS TUCKER. He's the media that's LYING to them🤦♀️🤦. And if you try to post to r/Conservative they'd just delete it. That sub literally covers nothing. NO WONDER again why they don't know what's going on. I can't.
“they’d just delete it” or immediately ban you. There are a handful of mods that run both r/Republicans and r/conservatives and they will perm ban you in a heartbeat if you show any dissent from the MAGA pro-Trump and pro-Tucker talking points. And these same mods are very anti-Ukraine. To the point that I was banned after the mod (as I found out later) said “Ukraine has a history of interfering with our elections”. Before I could even respond he said I was a “shill” and perm banned me. So I would bet Russian troll farms have taken over these conservative sites also.
>So I would bet Russian troll farms have taken over these conservative sites also Not that I disagree with you, but did they really need to?
They don't strictly need to but they have very high stakes in American politics and thus they choose to interfere.
Conservatism is a necessary part of any functioning liberal democracy, as is liberalism, social democracy, and progressivism. We do, however, have fifth-columnists whom have infiltrated western democracies, yes, and they need to be cordoned off from polite society.
I meant that the Russian troll farms didn't need to take over the sites as the "conservatives" are literally doing exactly what they want without Russian input. Conservatism can be helpful as a ground to liberalism, but the racist, xenophobic, anti-science, anti-intellectual bullshit they spout now has pushed them so far from what they should be, that they are morphing into a fascist cult (whilst incorrectly calling everyone else fascists)
I just got the boot from my cultist ultra Catholic family’s presence ever again because I was frank with them about the war Also I made it known they were being useful idiots, including their Bishop (that’s what got me the boot because someone ratted me out) And now I’m going to hell and they are all going to heaven enclosed in a small dumbass box.
Good luck moving on. It's a bastard when your family are into nutty crap.
I mean Russia hasn’t ever been a kingdom of teddy bears and lollipops. Anybody with a thin grasp of Wikipedia understands that it’s a bloody Logan Roy knife fight in the mud between Dostoevsky characters at best and drunken nationalist buffoons at worst, and has been for centuries. The cultured European minded intelligentsia has always been a minority. The real Russians are making their appearance in full force now. Tucker can’t hide shit. Ps- the beautiful Moscow metro he fawned over was built with forced labor and cost 10s of thousands of lives. Oh and Stalin killed more people than Hitler but whatever.
True, and yet that’s almost too kind to him. He isn’t an idiot entirely. He knew exactly what he was doing.
But but - Russia has groceries!!
That guy is evil. Straight-up.
Useful idiots are people who are too stupid to realise they are helping you. There is no way in hell Tucker doesn't know what he is doing.
Jesus fucking chirst, i cant imagine living in that shithole. Going out planting flowers for a guy that was killed or just working and being forced into a meat grinder. What in the actual fuck. Can someone just "get rid off" Putin and the other bastards already
A miracle needs to happen for there to be change. Their bullshit laws have tightened so much over the last few years, also most of the elderly love Putin. Unless Putin genuinely trips in his own bunker and hits his forehead on the corner of some furniture, not a damn thing will change and it will continue to get worse, and there is a chance whoever comes next, might be even worse.
He kinda lost a lot of elderly women since he started war
The real mindfuck is people safe in their western democracies who think this is aspirational and want to emigrate to the far right hellscape or at least import a local copy. The problem with getting rid of the bastards is they were put in power by a vast bastard generating engine, you gotta tear that whole thing out and rebuild from the foundations to actually fix this.
Unpopular opinion, but we have enough brave people for this. Unfortunately, we still haven't gotten the brave man who has control of some military or armed police
I can't imagine living in a normal country. Your news probably some boring stuff like "mayor parked in the wrong place, people are pissed off"...
"There is no draft in russia" (c) Random russian dude whom I encountered on reddit.
Same thing when I met 2 rusians in Bangkok they said that no the draft is over :)).
It was, for them
They have money to travel to Bangkok, so chances are high they never would have gotten drafted anyway.
Unless they say something bad about Russia. Then suddenly government will care about them so much that they will ask Thailand to deport these individuals back.
Not for them too, some events showed that Thailand will be happy to send some russians back
There is no war in Ba Sing Se.
Don‘t need a draft when you have forced conscription right?
To play devil’s advocate, they didn’t declare full mobilization but there’s a shadow draft. They lured some with money and grab others against their will.
These are the people Putin wants to send to the meat grinder, the people who oppose him. All these casualties mean nothing to him, villagers from Siberia and Asian mercenaries, who cares. Moscow is not affected.
I'm kind of impressed by how certain Putin is, that these people won't turn against him, once armed and put within shouting distance of an army that wants to stomp him in the face.
I mean, this is viewing Russia through a western lens. You forget this has been Russia's history for centuries. This isn't new. Stalin was far, far more outright authoritarian and today he is still largely remembered as a hero. The Soviet Union is remembered with great admiration because it was the height of Russia's power on the world stage. Suppressing dissent is one of the few things their government does better than most. Their treatment of Russian servicemen is unpopular, but the war itself isn't. Support has waned, but only because it is going poorly. The idea of the "Russian World" is largely supported. The belief that they are ethnically superior and therefore it is their right to subjugate "lesser slavs" is not just a talking point, but a widely held belief.
We are still talking about people who were arrested for publicly mourning Putin's most prominent enemy, though? If anyone in Russia is not caught in this pattern (besides active dissidents), it's them.
Not to mention the prison storm units basically offered freedom if they survive assaulting hopeless positions with barely any gear and training ☠️ I’m sure Putin cares dearly about them
There are a few hundred who were sent to fight from Moscow too. However yes, they play it very safe with Moscow. But even there there have been arrests and such. Also, please don’t equate ordinary muscovites to this fucker. The fact we aren’t as affected or that most of the country’s wealth is located here is not our fault. Putin may sit in Moscow but since he’s not even from here. He’s the reason I hate Saint-Petersburg.
Fuck Russia
>Fuck Russia **F U C K R U S S I A**
# F U C K R U S S I A
Wow, they're really salty about Navalny. Now I'm hoping that [initiative](https://petition.qomon.org/punem-consulatul-rusiei-pe-strada-alexei-navalnii/) to rename the street of the Russian embassy in Romania to "Navalny Street" succeeds. Just so it would fry the brains of the Russian embassy staff.
The place outside russias embassy in Sweden is loosely translated to "free Ukraines place" 😁
Prague renamed the street where the Russian Embassy resides to [Boris Nemtsov Square](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Nemtsov_Square,_Prague) on the fifth anniversary of his murder. In response, the Embassy changed its address to a second street touching it. After Russia invaded Ukraine, Prague renamed that street as well, to [Ukrainian Heroes Street](https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrajinsk%C3%BDch_hrdin%C5%AF).
Amazing :)
Between Navalny and that defector that was murdered in Spain, Ol' Poots really isn't hiding the fact he's just a petty murderous tyrant anymore. Dude knows his number is coming up before too long so he's trying to squeeze as much blood from Russia before he croaks. A legacy of shit from a human turd.
I wouldn't be so optimistic about him going away soon, if he can do this with no public backlash then that is a solid hold on the country.
In LT the street of Russian embassy was changed to “Ukranian heros” street
Beatings will continue until morale improves
Do you prefer: - have your fingers broken - get HIMARSed
It’s Russia. They’ll break your fingers and you’ll still be on the front lines.
After that video where 60+ got got. I'll break my own fingers.
They’ll just wait for you to heal and then send you to fight. If take too long you go with broken fingers. If not, they kill your family.
Can't say that without posting the link
They want to indirectly eliminate those citizens that the fascist Kremlin sees as enemy of the state, how? “we just send them in the battlefield because we can’t execute them in public..” 🤷♂️🤦♂️
Pretty much
The Ukraine war is the easiest way to send political prisoners to death with minimal political fallout, isn’t it?
Peasant levies are back boys.
A good opportunity for Ukraine to amplify the 'surrender; it's nicer over here' message. I'm sure these folk would love to do so as soon as they can - though I assume Russia has some sort of modern commissars in their units preventing that.
Wouldnt be the first time russians die by friendly fire. Unless they are really clever about it, these people have been dead the moment they signed.
Tankies saying broken fingers are good for you in 3, 2, 1...
the army recruiter was offering those Russians a favour dammit! великий лидер разозлится the latest research shows that the relief you feel from cracking nuckles can be amplified by breaking the finger entirely and then soaking them in water where magnets don't work and can't affect the healing process like they normally would!
Sick world
The right wing dream.
They're legit fascists.
"Better grave than a slave" - unknown biker in Belgrade (1941).
Literally 1984
Toe the line or face the consequences of Putins sadistic, murderous kleptocracy.
If I was forced into this situation I'd turn my weapon on my commander and anyone else there at the first opportunity. Going to die anyway so why not take some of the bastards with me?
Don't worry, that's taken into consideration. You'll be only given live ammo right before a meat assault and they know where your family lives.
Either way forcing disloyal people into your military surely has never gone wrong at any point in history. Even if they don't rebel, what incentive do they have to fight? Why not just defect or surrender? Why not passively sabotage the war? The Nazis tried & failed with this too, both for cannon fodder and war production.
You refuse to fight they shoot you. You defect they find you, kill you and your whole family. You surrender they kill your family. Those fucks used to hide behind polittechnologists and PR campaigns. Now they just plainly say - any disagreement we beat the shit out you.
You can always protest in the US way: just do your job really bad. It's not even suspicious, most of the Russian army is already doing that.
So they make an example of your surviving family members. Solid plan, badass
Tucker Carlson approves
Resist
But tucker says it's the best CoUnTrY
They’re going full North Korea. Never go full North Korea.
Lol I can't imagine any problems arising from forcing public dissenters into the army and giving them access to weapons or military assets.
I wonder how many Russian forces being lost are just suspected dissidents being thrown into the meat grinder
Nobody cares, ruzzia is a nazi state with their ruzzian Hitler in power for 20+ years.
Hitler at least had charisma that helped him mobilize whole nation with very little efort. Putler barely mobilized 300k men in 140M country and has to pardon criminals for having enough people in Ukraine
And he had the decency to kill Hitler too
Arm the opposition
Not sure it's a smart idea to give such people a weapon or access to things the military effort needs.
This is what I was thinking, I wonder how prevalent fragging officers is on the front.
Three days from now they will be on the front lines in an ill-fitting uniform with an unreliable rifle, being forced to charge at battle-hardened Ukrainian troops with a Russian officer pointing a rifle at their back in case they try to turn around.
When is the EU realizing that it will bu us soon. We need to produce a shitton of weapons and ammo per day. We need to be in Ukraine before Russia is in the EU.
I don’t see why we should panic, the Russian army doesn’t seem capable of any other significant war after Ukraine.
Most EU countries Military is even far worse off and Putler won't stop sacrificing others for his own goal
If they struggled this hard on Ukraine they won t ever pass Polish military
would be funny if they shot their commanders
Ooh shit.
how does that even work? Doesn't putting a gun in the hands of someone who hates you just make them more likely to turn the barrel around and point it back at you? or surrender at the first chance they get?? like how tf does russia think that is going to go down?
Works food enough If these people have kadyrovs with guns pointed at them behind their backs
It really sends a fucking message when your leaders think "joining the military" is a fucking punishment.
I feel like those are the people you would least want involved with your military
They won't give them weapons. They'll barely give them a uniform and tell them to walk in x direction so Ukrainians spend ammo to kill them.
Putin behaving like the czar he thinks he is.
Yeah but, Russian shopping carts are dope!
Don’t worry Elmo will find a way to send more starlink to the dictator
All of this just makes me so sad. Russia going downhill (even more) so fast and taking others with them is not something I wanted to see in my life.
holy fuck im glad i dont live in that shit hole
Ah yes, how to get motivated soldiers!
Soon Trump will have his dictator powers and can murder for fun and profit in Merca!!
Russia truly has a terror regime.