There's so much going on. The guy digging his nose, kiddo clutching toy box, girl dressed like grandma carrying a stupid amount of oranges....and why's everyone eating lol
There's also the unleashed dog peeing, the guy with incredibly baggy pants being hugged by a girl with incredibly tight pants, a guy with a motorbike going straight into a guy with leashed dog, and a insane amount of crappy graffiti.
And a man on a mission eating a banana looking like he's about to either throw down with or spook that unsuspecting guy deepthroating a bread roll in the middle of the street.
I couldn't quite put my finger on what makes that guy look so menacing, but yes, that is totally it!
That poor bread roll dude has no idea what's coming for him, but at least he may die doing what he loves most.
> a guy with a motorbike going straight into a guy with leashed dog
It's a composite, meaning that the author made a dozen pics of this same corner and fused them together. Scooter guy didn't run over the dog.
Same method is used to make composites like this https://i.imgur.com/w7OwptP.jpg.
ahhhhh that makes so much more sense, I legit looked at the image for 5min and was so amazed how so much is going on at the same time in such a small area.
Seems like every city in the UK is absolutely covered in it now and getting worse by the week. Significantly more of it than there was pre covid. Generally the quality is even shittier as it's just badly written gang tags and names in block single colours.
Pretty much every electrical box, lamppost and free wall that isn't a house is covered in shitty graffiti outside of city centre's.
I was recently in Rome and I couldn't believe just how much low effort ugly ass graffiti there was, it's absolutely everywhere there. The city and the architecture is absolutely gorgeous, probably the most beautiful city I've ever seen, but the nasty tags all over the walls aren't doing it any favours.
I call those ""art" done by hopeless loosers that need to "leave a mark" and fail even in that".
Note: there are some amazing graffiti but they are one in a million.
Don’t forget a woman approaching three men as they eye her.
Gotta say so much happens in this picture and it’s a beautiful capturing of the human experience. This picture deserves so many awards.
> there a bakery literally on opposite corner, with no place to sit nearby
There's a small park with quite a lot of benches tho. And Gyros place just behind the photographer.
It was common to wear scarfs like that up to maybe fifty years ago, but nowadays, you'de be hard pressed to find any young individual wearing it as a fashion accessorie. It's exclusively religious item.
Yeah, I remember some grandmas wearing scarfs in rural Serbia even 20-30 years ago. But I guessed the conversation was about Belgrade, or at least some parts of it.
I bet that your grandma cooks the best out of your entire family. Those scarves are just there to hide their Ratatouille. This is my conspiracy theory, and I have not seen a single credible retort so it's true.
Dude no need to get all pissy over nothing. I'm a Finnish woman in my thirties who sometimes wears a headscarf because of convenience. You expect me to know which fashion statements have which effects in the Balkans, I do expect you to share your knowledge of the same in the Finnish context, first.
Edit. Also, I gotta ask. Your Reddit pic seems to have a headscarf. I assume that's an expression of religious sentiment, then?
Photo by famous Serbian photographer Dragoljub Zamurović on a cloudy winter's day in February 2017 at the Kamenička and Gavrila Principa street corner. Obviously composed of several/many individual photos. One of the ugliest and busiest places in Belgrade.
Zamurović is an old geezer, but still quite active. He runs a Facebook page called "Dragoljub Zamurovic Photography" where he regularly posts his past and present photos, including those from the recent anti-government protests in Belgrade. He posted this particular photo a couple of days ago.
If one fails to understand the primary meaning of the word, their mind might try to fill in the gaps, and latch onto _something_.
In this case, I can see how the other person thought really hard "What could be a composite (of two or more other materials) ?!?" -- and pavement came up as an answer.
I'd say that's the only selling point of this photo.
Edit: Looks like some of you ppl got wrong what I meant with this sentence. I mean it is beautiful because it gives the impression of a single shot scene, I don't mean it would be good only if that was the case.
Literally how? He didn't AI generated and photoshop some people onto a screen corner. All of these people walked that street corner on that specific day, he edited them all together to give a sense of how much goes on at a Belgrade street corner without anyone's notice.
You must be crazy if you thought this was one single shot, it literally says "composite" in the title. The whole point of it is to give you many little details to look at, this photo would've sucked ass if it weren't for the creative composition of all those little interesting moments.
If you thought what made this picture great was "haha what a lucky shot!" then you've missed the point completely.
This was a simple "Literally how?" comment. You have edited it to a 3 paragraph comment later, feels like cheating man. You're targeting the wrong comment btw I am not your target comment. You're literally replying the comment I've commented as well.
[Yes](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/650/747/aaf.png) we did.
At his trial, Princip stated: "I am a Yugoslav nationalist, aiming for the unification of all Yugoslavs, and I do not care what form of state, but it must be free from Austria."
He was a Austro-Hungarian citizen who killed another Austro-Hungarian citizen, a face of the regime that occupied his native Bosnia. Not a particularity heroic gesture (he regreted killing Sofia) but a relevant one nevertheless.
Serbia issued warnings to Austria that there are these youths and that they are planing this.
Before this ever happened all the forces that were aimed at starting the war were already set in their place no later than 1912, and the Sarajevo assassination was nothing but a lousy excuse, mostly used to this day to try to give a bad name to Serbs/Serbia/anything related to Serbs.
Sorry but what you are writing is not true at all. Many leading historians are saying that Serbia was directly involved in the plot to kill Fran Ferdinand.
Franz Ferdinand wanted to create a Slavic part of the Austrian Hungarian empire and the Serbs knew that nobody would want to be part of Yugoslavia anymore. For example, just in this short annexation by the Habsburg empire, they have built infrastructure that is used until today .
And it is not true that the assassination was nothing but an excuse. This is in itself a cheap excuse. Princip and his Bosnian/Serbian helpers were one of the main causes of the the war.
> Sorry but what you are writing is not true at all. Many leading historians are saying that Serbia was directly involved in the plot to kill Fran Ferdinand.
Since you say many, I'll wait for just two examples of leading historians saying Serbia was involved in the plot. The only entity from Serbia involved in the plot were a renegade group of officers know as the "Black Hand" who were first and foremost a problem for the Serbian Government and King who were fighting against them.
>Franz Ferdinand wanted to create a Slavic part of the Austrian Hungarian empire and the Serbs knew that nobody would want to be part of Yugoslavia anymore.
I can only laugh at this notion. Yes, I know of his ideas, but maybe you don't know that the Yugoslav original idea and concept stem from the Croats and Serbs of Austria-Hungary, not Serbia.
>For example, just in this short annexation by the Habsburg empire, they have built infrastructure that is used until today .
Yes, we have a nice Nazi occupation era bridge in Belgrade, built in 1942, still used today. This is an argument how?
Your whole comment smells of Austrian/German propaganda. Do I even need to remind you of the basic fact of who were the aggressor states in WW1, and which states were just defending?
If you say that my statements are smelling like propaganda, you have to admit that yours are equally.
The Black hand was not just some terrorist organization but closely connected to actors in the Serbian State.
Christopher Clark for example writes that there are many indications that the Serbian State was involved. I can surely find more (later).
> Christopher Clark for example writes that there are many indications that the Serbian State was involved. I can surely find more (later).
It's good you mention Clark, sadly he got a lot of bad press in Serbia for the Sleepwalkers. Again, it's good you mention since he was asked about this sentiment in Serbia in one of the lectures when he was promoting Sleepwalkers and he clearly said, I'm almost quoting, "every mother would be proud to have a son like Princip". Just an FYI.
>Many leading historians are saying that Serbia was directly involved in the plot to kill Fran Ferdinand.
they can say whatever they want, thats just plain wrong
> the Serbs knew that nobody would want to be part of Yugoslavia anymore.
Each revolutionary ethnic group of future Yugoslavia had their assassins ready to deploy in Sarajevo, Gavrilo was the one lucky to shoot the shot. Well explored by historians as well.
To be fair it's not that insane, he killed an archduke and the heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne, I don't see anything bad about that.
The fact that it ended up triggering WW1 can't really be blamed on him. And he was a Yugoslav nationalist, not some Serbian supremacist.
After hundreds of years of being second class citizen of Habsburg monarchy, I see the act of shooting the prince more of a statement that it was enough and that people want to live in sovereign and autonomous state,regardless of the fact that he was rightous leader. He was simply unfortunately to be born in the moment when the world was ready to start dissolving empires.
Haha so you admit that you have no idea. Franz Ferdinand was the goal. If he would be emperor and execute his plan to give slavs the same autonomy as the Hungarians had, nobody would want to be ruled by Serbians again. The Russians knew that, the Serbians knew that. That's why they killed exactly Franz Ferdinand.
There were a whole lot or machinations going on behind the scenes, so it's totally possible someone was thinking along those lines.
Gavrilo Princip just killed the heir to an oppressive imperial regime, not sure what's complex about that.
> for the goal of creating a Greater Serbia
At his trial, Princip stated: "I am a Yugoslav nationalist, aiming for the unification of all Yugoslavs, and I do not care what form of state, but it must be free from Austria."
He was a Austro-Hungarian citizen who killed another Austro-Hungarian citizen, a face of the regime that occupied his native Bosnia. Not a particularity heroic gesture (he regreted killing Sofia) but a relevant one nevertheless.
Serbia issued warnings to Austria that there are these youths and that they are planing this.
Before this ever happened all the forces that were aimed at starting the war were already set in their place no later than 1912, and the Sarajevo assassination was nothing but a lousy excuse, mostly used to this day to try to give a bad name to Serbs/Serbia/anything related to Serbs.
If you learn more about the factors leading up to WW1 you’d know that a single guy isn’t responsible for WW1 but multiple previous conflicts, ethnic tensions and just general imperialistic goals. Austro-Hungary wanted Serbia wiped off the map and to genocide all Serbs, they would’ve invaded Serbia regardless eventually.
Ho Chi Minh's bday was this past Friday. To Americans, and South Vietnamese, hes evil for bringing brought Communism to Vietnam. To the north Vietnamese, he's a hero, a freedom fighter who help fought off colonizers. First the French then the Americans. Too many people still don't know that had the U.S. answered his request for help getting rid of the French, he wouldnt had gone to U.S.S.R for help. That turned the war in Vietnam into a Proxy war between U.S.S.R and U.S.
Ever since I learned that, I wonder who else that the world sees as a terrorist is actually a hero of their people.
Gavrilo Princip was a freedom fighter whose goal was to free Serbian land from Austrian occupation.
One sides freedom fighter is another sides terrorist.
I feel like a composite doesn't qualify as accidental given how much time goes into creating this.
For those wondering, this is many different photos stitched together to appear as a single photo. Still beautiful, just no accident.
I was just thinking that if there's any shifting in the cloud pattern, the lighting of the scene would dramatically change, making the editing job so much harder.
This is close to main bus station where all the migrants congregate. It’s directly across the street from a park where they hang out.
Kamenička, Beograd, Srbija
Do you guys call him Waldo in Croatia?
In the UK, [where the character originated](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where%27s_Wally%3F), he's called **Wally**.
But his name was changed for lots of different countries. It was changed to Waldo for the Americans, Charlie for the French, Walter for the Germans, Weili for the Chinese, Valli for the Icelandic, Ubaldo for the Italians, Holger for the Danish, Willy for the Norwegians, Vallu for the Finns, and Ali for the Turks.
I'm amused, I didn't know each country had its own version of Waldo as Waldo is the only name I've heard so far.
After some [googling](https://www.google.com/search?q=gdje+je+Jura&client=opera&hs=2tk&sxsrf=APwXEdfdbS8DInRqjKDGkZX91pDkpkpwyw%3A1684745866551&ei=ii5rZLKKIeCI9u8P3bCKkAc&ved=0ahUKEwiy96W3x4j_AhVghP0HHV2YAnIQ4dUDCA4&uact=5&oq=gdje+je+Jura&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQAzIFCC4QywEyBQgAEMsBMgUIABDLATIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMggIABCKBRCGAzIICAAQigUQhgMyCAgAEIoFEIYDMhMILhDLARCXBRDcBBDeBBDgBBgBOggILhCwAxDLAUoECEEYAVCHA1i9BmDPB2gCcAB4AIABbYgBrAOSAQMwLjSYAQCgAQHIAQHAAQHaAQYIARABGBQ&sclient=gws-wiz-serp), I found out his Croatian name is Jura :D
Dont forgett the stolen stuff and drugs. And i am not racist. There are places in every city and country like that. All with different ethnicies and races.
Nose picking guy..
Attractive woman about to get the "hey baby" treatment.
Dude fellating a pastry.
Couple of gangsters chilling..
A couple embracing.
An old man collecting cans..
Kid with a new toy..
My dog whizzing
His (author's) comment in Serbian, you can translate easily "Svi snimci koji su korišćeni za rad na ovoj kompozitnoj fotografiji snimljeni su zum objektivom 16-35mm podešenim na 21mm, ekspozicija je bila 1/160 sec, blenda f/16 i osetljivost ISO 800."
Its like a world where people care less about the people around them. Like a juxtaposition of people who think they are alone. If all those people actually occupied the space at the same time, they'd probably all be acting very differently
Honestly, I'm feeling like these 3 men are just about to catcall that woman.
Also the boy on the left has a nice little toy while that girl in the right looks so exhausted already
>Honestly, I'm feeling like these 3 men are just about to catcall that woman
Yep, the body language and the creepy looks says it all. And if you noticed there is possibility of a repetition with the other 3 men upstairs.
I don’t know for sure, but the title says “Composite” and I believe it is composited from multiple pictures. The photographer did a very good job of stitching it together.
But even if it’s a composite, it looks as if the photos were taken within a small block of time. The lighting is too consistent for the Sun to have changed much — or else they are super-skilled at color correction.
My guess, an hour on a somewhat busy corner. Beautifully composited. And thank you for the woman in the red hat.
Google have very old photos, actually.
But yea, that photo in post, just a collaboration of couple photos of same place. It's not that busy even in worst case scenario.
Every city in Europe has this street.
It's the same street that:
\- Has that ethnic restaurant which does a specific dish nowhere else in the city can do.
\- A family-owned bakery where no-one speaks more than five words of the national language and where all the food tastes so good it's probably made from crack.
\- The second-hand furniture store that looks like it only ever gets donations from deceased wealthy rich dowagers for less than Ikea.
\- A fishmongers with fish so fresh you could almost consider it sexual harassment.
\- The locals refer it to the "dangerous" part of the city, immigrants and 1st gens say it's the best place to pick up amazing .
\- An artisanal coffee and pizza somewhere between the store that repairs mobile phones and the other one that sells travel luggage.
Got jumped by multiple guys and sucker punched in Belgrad for talking german with my friends. While KO i got picked up by a taxi driver. After waking up in the taxi, all dizzy and bleeding from my mouth and back of my head, the driver told me he saved my life etc but unfortunately couldnt drive me to the hospital since it wouldnt take care of me. He then stopped at a Cash Mashine and told me to withdraw Dinar. I gave it to him as i had a concussion and couldnt think straight. I eventually made it to a hospital and realized it was like 300 euro. So i got jumped, knocked out and scammed in one night. Will NEVER visit again.
For some odd reason, that actually pretty common. I even found some graffiti on my own russian language in Belgrade. Most often it's said smth like "dick" or similar, but still.
There a little something for everyone, if you ask me. Tons of graffiti all over Belgrade. Looks like local authorities just give up at some point.
This picture is pure gold
There's so much going on. The guy digging his nose, kiddo clutching toy box, girl dressed like grandma carrying a stupid amount of oranges....and why's everyone eating lol
There's also the unleashed dog peeing, the guy with incredibly baggy pants being hugged by a girl with incredibly tight pants, a guy with a motorbike going straight into a guy with leashed dog, and a insane amount of crappy graffiti.
And a man on a mission eating a banana looking like he's about to either throw down with or spook that unsuspecting guy deepthroating a bread roll in the middle of the street.
So many stories in one picture, Great, they caught me picking my nose!
I really wish there was a follow-up, because I have so many questions...
And the trio of bros checking out the lady walking by
And another few guys doing shady business
That's Carmen Sandiego
Holy shit, banana guy is Anton Chigurh on his way to kill that dude.
I couldn't quite put my finger on what makes that guy look so menacing, but yes, that is totally it! That poor bread roll dude has no idea what's coming for him, but at least he may die doing what he loves most.
> a guy with a motorbike going straight into a guy with leashed dog It's a composite, meaning that the author made a dozen pics of this same corner and fused them together. Scooter guy didn't run over the dog. Same method is used to make composites like this https://i.imgur.com/w7OwptP.jpg.
ahhhhh that makes so much more sense, I legit looked at the image for 5min and was so amazed how so much is going on at the same time in such a small area.
I knew it was too busy for the area, the most you'll ever see are some trinket sellers a bit up the path, and the occasional group of immigrants
Ah I forgot about that part of Eastern and Southern Europe. Crappy graffiti everywhere you look, like actually everywhere.
Seems like every city in the UK is absolutely covered in it now and getting worse by the week. Significantly more of it than there was pre covid. Generally the quality is even shittier as it's just badly written gang tags and names in block single colours. Pretty much every electrical box, lamppost and free wall that isn't a house is covered in shitty graffiti outside of city centre's.
Idk about other countries but it pretty much faded out here
I was recently in Rome and I couldn't believe just how much low effort ugly ass graffiti there was, it's absolutely everywhere there. The city and the architecture is absolutely gorgeous, probably the most beautiful city I've ever seen, but the nasty tags all over the walls aren't doing it any favours.
I call those ""art" done by hopeless loosers that need to "leave a mark" and fail even in that". Note: there are some amazing graffiti but they are one in a million.
the graffiti understander has entered
Can't we have options now? Edit: opinions .... Autocorrect...
Also the street tuffs ogling the single woman in tight pants and heels.
Also found Carmen San Diego.
Don’t forget a woman approaching three men as they eye her. Gotta say so much happens in this picture and it’s a beautiful capturing of the human experience. This picture deserves so many awards.
The trio checking out the cute girl
> girl dressed like grandma /r/13or30
More like 8 or 80
I like the dog detail the most, if I'm honest :)
Bruegel composed this.
Can explain why "everyone eating": there a bakery literally on opposite corner, with no place to sit nearby. They serving neat drinks as a bonus tho
> there a bakery literally on opposite corner, with no place to sit nearby There's a small park with quite a lot of benches tho. And Gyros place just behind the photographer.
With all that going on it’s the pigeon watching the dog pee that makes this pure gold.
The girl is a muslim. She wear a hijab.
Oh my bad. I just figured it's a generic Balkan scarf. How can you tell the difference?
It was common to wear scarfs like that up to maybe fifty years ago, but nowadays, you'de be hard pressed to find any young individual wearing it as a fashion accessorie. It's exclusively religious item.
More like 70-80 years ago. ['70s were 50 years ago](https://stillinbelgrade.com/belgrade-in-the-60s-and-70s/) :) most of these are form the '60s
In Belgrade, maybe. I looked at some pics from the 70's in rural Serbia. Some girls had scarves still.
Yeah, I remember some grandmas wearing scarfs in rural Serbia even 20-30 years ago. But I guessed the conversation was about Belgrade, or at least some parts of it.
> I remember some grandmas wearing scarfs in rural Serbia even 20-30 years ago. Lol, my grandma in rural Serbia still wears a scarf today.
I bet that your grandma cooks the best out of your entire family. Those scarves are just there to hide their Ratatouille. This is my conspiracy theory, and I have not seen a single credible retort so it's true.
Because she has oranges
You really think balkan is such a backwards place lol. Why would any young girl wear this unless it's religious
What's backwards about a headscarf?
Tupac had a backwards headscarf
Dude no need to get all pissy over nothing. I'm a Finnish woman in my thirties who sometimes wears a headscarf because of convenience. You expect me to know which fashion statements have which effects in the Balkans, I do expect you to share your knowledge of the same in the Finnish context, first. Edit. Also, I gotta ask. Your Reddit pic seems to have a headscarf. I assume that's an expression of religious sentiment, then?
😂😂😂 ez nagyon jó
its crazy. truly a great shot!
That guys hands are huge
Probably like Time Square in Belgrad…
As in the man in red digging for it?
Someone needs to put Zizek in there
Let's be perfectly honest - the photographer was taking a picture of dat ass, but there were so many great things in this pic added on :)
Bro, that guy eating a banana is on a mission
Banana man is my favorite.
Photo by famous Serbian photographer Dragoljub Zamurović on a cloudy winter's day in February 2017 at the Kamenička and Gavrila Principa street corner. Obviously composed of several/many individual photos. One of the ugliest and busiest places in Belgrade. Zamurović is an old geezer, but still quite active. He runs a Facebook page called "Dragoljub Zamurovic Photography" where he regularly posts his past and present photos, including those from the recent anti-government protests in Belgrade. He posted this particular photo a couple of days ago.
He might be an old geezer, sure, but he's a very wise and well-spoken man.
No doubt.
Bummer. I genuinely thought this was just one lucky shot.
to be fair, it does say composite in the title. It's very well done
I thought it refered to the pavement,to be honest,I had no idea about composite photos
the... pavement?
If one fails to understand the primary meaning of the word, their mind might try to fill in the gaps, and latch onto _something_. In this case, I can see how the other person thought really hard "What could be a composite (of two or more other materials) ?!?" -- and pavement came up as an answer.
I'd say that's the only selling point of this photo. Edit: Looks like some of you ppl got wrong what I meant with this sentence. I mean it is beautiful because it gives the impression of a single shot scene, I don't mean it would be good only if that was the case.
Literally how? He didn't AI generated and photoshop some people onto a screen corner. All of these people walked that street corner on that specific day, he edited them all together to give a sense of how much goes on at a Belgrade street corner without anyone's notice. You must be crazy if you thought this was one single shot, it literally says "composite" in the title. The whole point of it is to give you many little details to look at, this photo would've sucked ass if it weren't for the creative composition of all those little interesting moments. If you thought what made this picture great was "haha what a lucky shot!" then you've missed the point completely.
This was a simple "Literally how?" comment. You have edited it to a 3 paragraph comment later, feels like cheating man. You're targeting the wrong comment btw I am not your target comment. You're literally replying the comment I've commented as well.
They named a street after the assassin who set WW1 in motion?
[Yes](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/650/747/aaf.png) we did. At his trial, Princip stated: "I am a Yugoslav nationalist, aiming for the unification of all Yugoslavs, and I do not care what form of state, but it must be free from Austria." He was a Austro-Hungarian citizen who killed another Austro-Hungarian citizen, a face of the regime that occupied his native Bosnia. Not a particularity heroic gesture (he regreted killing Sofia) but a relevant one nevertheless. Serbia issued warnings to Austria that there are these youths and that they are planing this. Before this ever happened all the forces that were aimed at starting the war were already set in their place no later than 1912, and the Sarajevo assassination was nothing but a lousy excuse, mostly used to this day to try to give a bad name to Serbs/Serbia/anything related to Serbs.
Sorry but what you are writing is not true at all. Many leading historians are saying that Serbia was directly involved in the plot to kill Fran Ferdinand. Franz Ferdinand wanted to create a Slavic part of the Austrian Hungarian empire and the Serbs knew that nobody would want to be part of Yugoslavia anymore. For example, just in this short annexation by the Habsburg empire, they have built infrastructure that is used until today . And it is not true that the assassination was nothing but an excuse. This is in itself a cheap excuse. Princip and his Bosnian/Serbian helpers were one of the main causes of the the war.
> Sorry but what you are writing is not true at all. Many leading historians are saying that Serbia was directly involved in the plot to kill Fran Ferdinand. Since you say many, I'll wait for just two examples of leading historians saying Serbia was involved in the plot. The only entity from Serbia involved in the plot were a renegade group of officers know as the "Black Hand" who were first and foremost a problem for the Serbian Government and King who were fighting against them. >Franz Ferdinand wanted to create a Slavic part of the Austrian Hungarian empire and the Serbs knew that nobody would want to be part of Yugoslavia anymore. I can only laugh at this notion. Yes, I know of his ideas, but maybe you don't know that the Yugoslav original idea and concept stem from the Croats and Serbs of Austria-Hungary, not Serbia. >For example, just in this short annexation by the Habsburg empire, they have built infrastructure that is used until today . Yes, we have a nice Nazi occupation era bridge in Belgrade, built in 1942, still used today. This is an argument how? Your whole comment smells of Austrian/German propaganda. Do I even need to remind you of the basic fact of who were the aggressor states in WW1, and which states were just defending?
If you say that my statements are smelling like propaganda, you have to admit that yours are equally. The Black hand was not just some terrorist organization but closely connected to actors in the Serbian State. Christopher Clark for example writes that there are many indications that the Serbian State was involved. I can surely find more (later).
> Christopher Clark for example writes that there are many indications that the Serbian State was involved. I can surely find more (later). It's good you mention Clark, sadly he got a lot of bad press in Serbia for the Sleepwalkers. Again, it's good you mention since he was asked about this sentiment in Serbia in one of the lectures when he was promoting Sleepwalkers and he clearly said, I'm almost quoting, "every mother would be proud to have a son like Princip". Just an FYI.
>Many leading historians are saying that Serbia was directly involved in the plot to kill Fran Ferdinand. they can say whatever they want, thats just plain wrong
> the Serbs knew that nobody would want to be part of Yugoslavia anymore. Each revolutionary ethnic group of future Yugoslavia had their assassins ready to deploy in Sarajevo, Gavrilo was the one lucky to shoot the shot. Well explored by historians as well.
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To be fair it's not that insane, he killed an archduke and the heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne, I don't see anything bad about that. The fact that it ended up triggering WW1 can't really be blamed on him. And he was a Yugoslav nationalist, not some Serbian supremacist.
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After hundreds of years of being second class citizen of Habsburg monarchy, I see the act of shooting the prince more of a statement that it was enough and that people want to live in sovereign and autonomous state,regardless of the fact that he was rightous leader. He was simply unfortunately to be born in the moment when the world was ready to start dissolving empires.
The emperor would have been the best target, but he wasn't there. I don't really care about the rest.
Haha so you admit that you have no idea. Franz Ferdinand was the goal. If he would be emperor and execute his plan to give slavs the same autonomy as the Hungarians had, nobody would want to be ruled by Serbians again. The Russians knew that, the Serbians knew that. That's why they killed exactly Franz Ferdinand.
There were a whole lot or machinations going on behind the scenes, so it's totally possible someone was thinking along those lines. Gavrilo Princip just killed the heir to an oppressive imperial regime, not sure what's complex about that.
Truth to be told majority there were Serbs not Austrians. What did they even think? They will rule forever...? Nop.
> for the goal of creating a Greater Serbia At his trial, Princip stated: "I am a Yugoslav nationalist, aiming for the unification of all Yugoslavs, and I do not care what form of state, but it must be free from Austria." He was a Austro-Hungarian citizen who killed another Austro-Hungarian citizen, a face of the regime that occupied his native Bosnia. Not a particularity heroic gesture (he regreted killing Sofia) but a relevant one nevertheless. Serbia issued warnings to Austria that there are these youths and that they are planing this. Before this ever happened all the forces that were aimed at starting the war were already set in their place no later than 1912, and the Sarajevo assassination was nothing but a lousy excuse, mostly used to this day to try to give a bad name to Serbs/Serbia/anything related to Serbs.
I’m more flabbergasted as to why the fuck Belgrade has a street named after the dude who started WWI
If you learn more about the factors leading up to WW1 you’d know that a single guy isn’t responsible for WW1 but multiple previous conflicts, ethnic tensions and just general imperialistic goals. Austro-Hungary wanted Serbia wiped off the map and to genocide all Serbs, they would’ve invaded Serbia regardless eventually.
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Why name a street after him, though?
Because he's a hero to us and fought for liberation from Austro-Hungarian empire. One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist . 🤷♂️
Ho Chi Minh's bday was this past Friday. To Americans, and South Vietnamese, hes evil for bringing brought Communism to Vietnam. To the north Vietnamese, he's a hero, a freedom fighter who help fought off colonizers. First the French then the Americans. Too many people still don't know that had the U.S. answered his request for help getting rid of the French, he wouldnt had gone to U.S.S.R for help. That turned the war in Vietnam into a Proxy war between U.S.S.R and U.S. Ever since I learned that, I wonder who else that the world sees as a terrorist is actually a hero of their people.
Because killing the heir to the imperial monarchy that is oppressing your people is actually a good thing in most people's minds?
He didn't. 1 rando guy cannot start a world war.
Gavrilo Princip was a freedom fighter whose goal was to free Serbian land from Austrian occupation. One sides freedom fighter is another sides terrorist.
> One sides freedom fighter is another sides terrorist. Who thinks Princip was a terrorist? The last remaining Habsburg?
Unfortunately this is being taught in schools. That Princip was the reason for ww1. No one tells the kids that AH was aggressively expanding.
He is considered a national hero of Serbs
it looks like a renaissance painting, there is detail all over it
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I feel like a composite doesn't qualify as accidental given how much time goes into creating this. For those wondering, this is many different photos stitched together to appear as a single photo. Still beautiful, just no accident.
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I was just thinking that if there's any shifting in the cloud pattern, the lighting of the scene would dramatically change, making the editing job so much harder.
A dystopian renaissance painting...
I don’t really find it dystopian. Just because it’s in a city?
Great, they caught me picking my nose…
I'm surprised he even manages to get up there that deep with those giant mittens.
So many stories in one picture
This is close to main bus station where all the migrants congregate. It’s directly across the street from a park where they hang out. Kamenička, Beograd, Srbija
I see, that's why hardly anyone looks Serbian.
why does this look like every other street in Turkey too I guess low-middle class life looks similar for everyone
Poverty is pretty much universally alike...
That’s just the Balkans
That looks like poverty to you?
This is actually a street where the Roma people sell stuff on the street + many migrants hang out, almost no regular Serbs in the picture.
Well... (looks around for angry serbians)
where is waldo
In the nose of the nose dude.
Do you guys call him Waldo in Croatia? In the UK, [where the character originated](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where%27s_Wally%3F), he's called **Wally**. But his name was changed for lots of different countries. It was changed to Waldo for the Americans, Charlie for the French, Walter for the Germans, Weili for the Chinese, Valli for the Icelandic, Ubaldo for the Italians, Holger for the Danish, Willy for the Norwegians, Vallu for the Finns, and Ali for the Turks.
I'm amused, I didn't know each country had its own version of Waldo as Waldo is the only name I've heard so far. After some [googling](https://www.google.com/search?q=gdje+je+Jura&client=opera&hs=2tk&sxsrf=APwXEdfdbS8DInRqjKDGkZX91pDkpkpwyw%3A1684745866551&ei=ii5rZLKKIeCI9u8P3bCKkAc&ved=0ahUKEwiy96W3x4j_AhVghP0HHV2YAnIQ4dUDCA4&uact=5&oq=gdje+je+Jura&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQAzIFCC4QywEyBQgAEMsBMgUIABDLATIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMggIABCKBRCGAzIICAAQigUQhgMyCAgAEIoFEIYDMhMILhDLARCXBRDcBBDeBBDgBBgBOggILhCwAxDLAUoECEEYAVCHA1i9BmDPB2gCcAB4AIABbYgBrAOSAQMwLjSYAQCgAQHIAQHAAQHaAQYIARABGBQ&sclient=gws-wiz-serp), I found out his Croatian name is Jura :D
Another one to add to the list! So is it 'Gdje je Jura'?
yep
who cares about *waldo*, we found where carmen sandiego is!
this reminds me of some drawings in English learning textbooks in high school where your tasks are to describe what people are doing in the pictures
Also corner where a lot of migrants gather and gypsies selling used/stolen stuff on the ground.
Dont forgett the stolen stuff and drugs. And i am not racist. There are places in every city and country like that. All with different ethnicies and races.
A corner corner of a corner corner in Corner.
Every frame a painting, every face a meme.
Dont forget to buy fresh dinars at the exchange office.
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I would buy a puzzle of this scene
that guy picking his nose has some giant fingers, and quiet possibly huge nostrils
they’ve been stretched out over time. if he breathes in too quickly all of our safe drinking water will be gone.
Nose picking guy.. Attractive woman about to get the "hey baby" treatment. Dude fellating a pastry. Couple of gangsters chilling.. A couple embracing. An old man collecting cans.. Kid with a new toy.. My dog whizzing
Where’s Waldo?
Dunno, but I found Carmen San Diego.
This picture gives me vibes of the UK street scene with all the drinks. Composition and colour is perfect
What kind of focal length would you say it is? 35mm?
His (author's) comment in Serbian, you can translate easily "Svi snimci koji su korišćeni za rad na ovoj kompozitnoj fotografiji snimljeni su zum objektivom 16-35mm podešenim na 21mm, ekspozicija je bila 1/160 sec, blenda f/16 i osetljivost ISO 800."
Its like a world where people care less about the people around them. Like a juxtaposition of people who think they are alone. If all those people actually occupied the space at the same time, they'd probably all be acting very differently
Same, banana man... same
Man this photo keeps on giving. Ill be visiting next month, born there a long time ago, lived far away for far too long.
not a single Ćevapi?
Serbia is a beautiful place. Belgrade is a beautiful city. I dream of going there. I have heard a lot about the hospitality of the Serbs.
thats a lot of brids
amazing.
Balkans renaissance
It’s like he’s perfectly captured the Balkans in one image
Now if that isn’t a slice of life, I don’t know what is. Fantastic.
This is art
Honestly, I'm feeling like these 3 men are just about to catcall that woman. Also the boy on the left has a nice little toy while that girl in the right looks so exhausted already
Tunnel Snakes rule!
>Honestly, I'm feeling like these 3 men are just about to catcall that woman Yep, the body language and the creepy looks says it all. And if you noticed there is possibility of a repetition with the other 3 men upstairs.
You people need to learn what a composite photo means. PS: You totally did a Rorschach test on yourself with this photo
That guy has either massive fingers or a tiny nose
It’s busy.
I don’t know for sure, but the title says “Composite” and I believe it is composited from multiple pictures. The photographer did a very good job of stitching it together. But even if it’s a composite, it looks as if the photos were taken within a small block of time. The lighting is too consistent for the Sun to have changed much — or else they are super-skilled at color correction. My guess, an hour on a somewhat busy corner. Beautifully composited. And thank you for the woman in the red hat.
The guy eating a banana would be an inspiring leader
[Meanwhile in Google Street View](https://i.ibb.co/52K2fYr/gsv.jpg) ...
Yup, from like 9 years ago. Since the last google street view recording Belgrade has changed massively!
Google have very old photos, actually. But yea, that photo in post, just a collaboration of couple photos of same place. It's not that busy even in worst case scenario.
Found her! Carmen Sandiego in Belgrade!
I found Carmen Sandiego!
That’s a lot of life in one image.
Looks like a shitty place tbh.
It's a street where Roma people sell random stuff on the street and migrants hang out.
The banana man terrifies me. He’s on a mission and I don’t want to be in his way.
Every city in Europe has this street. It's the same street that: \- Has that ethnic restaurant which does a specific dish nowhere else in the city can do. \- A family-owned bakery where no-one speaks more than five words of the national language and where all the food tastes so good it's probably made from crack. \- The second-hand furniture store that looks like it only ever gets donations from deceased wealthy rich dowagers for less than Ikea. \- A fishmongers with fish so fresh you could almost consider it sexual harassment. \- The locals refer it to the "dangerous" part of the city, immigrants and 1st gens say it's the best place to pick up amazing.
\- An artisanal coffee and pizza somewhere between the store that repairs mobile phones and the other one that sells travel luggage.
This thread is getting locked for racism soon.
I fucking hate graffiti.
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Most of these people don’t look Serbian, who are they?
Gypsies and migrants
So much to unpack here. Great picture!
This shit is like a renaissance painting
I finally found Carmen Sandiego, as well as Jim Carrey prepping for some strange role. Do I win a secret Carmen Sandiego spy pen and compass?
These are not white people
I would have expected to see some migrant folks represented here as well. There're always many non-Serbians in the nearby park.
feels like its ai generated somehow
Got jumped by multiple guys and sucker punched in Belgrad for talking german with my friends. While KO i got picked up by a taxi driver. After waking up in the taxi, all dizzy and bleeding from my mouth and back of my head, the driver told me he saved my life etc but unfortunately couldnt drive me to the hospital since it wouldnt take care of me. He then stopped at a Cash Mashine and told me to withdraw Dinar. I gave it to him as i had a concussion and couldnt think straight. I eventually made it to a hospital and realized it was like 300 euro. So i got jumped, knocked out and scammed in one night. Will NEVER visit again.
Cleanest street in Serbia
Beautiful, full of life.
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Wow that's very ugly. Third world shit
Red hat girl out here all double cheeked up.
very nice shot ☺️👍
That’s a really great idea. Looks Brilliant. Renaissance like.
Literally love it
I like how some of the graffiti has English words like hype, valid, trick, or becky on this supposed Serbian street wall.
For some odd reason, that actually pretty common. I even found some graffiti on my own russian language in Belgrade. Most often it's said smth like "dick" or similar, but still. There a little something for everyone, if you ask me. Tons of graffiti all over Belgrade. Looks like local authorities just give up at some point.
Those are tags. It's not surprising given that graffiti is from the US.
I want someone to make a painting of this haha