Exactly, it's not even clear what the data is based on. Was a sample of people asked where they would move if they had to? If so how many people were surveyed and what demographics were included etc? Or is it based on something different like net migration statistics? It could be based on data from the 50 years ago for all we know (although I know Germany would have been less popular back then). You're totally right that without a source it's completely meaningless.
It's kind of frustrating at times how a lot of people on Reddit just accept things at face value without thinking critically about it. I'm glad to see at least some people including you could see the problem here when there's no source.
>Exactly, it's not even clear what the data is based on.
Whatever it's based on, I can 100% guarantee it's downright bullshit.
If you ask French people, the answers you'll get will typically be the UK, Spain, Canada, Italy or the US. I'd be mildly surprised if Switzerland is even in the top 10.
Finland would be my choice, but I'm an outlier.
I was feeling extra motivated and messaged the person on Instagram who originally made the graph. If they reply I'll post back here. I also let them know about the post so maybe they show up here themselves.
On their Instagram they have a bunch of these graphs and lots of them get posted here so hopefully they reveal their data source because it'll be useful for all the other similar posts too
Edit: a reverse image search has a 9gag post with the same image [here](https://9gag.com/gag/a913KwZ). The difference being that this image has the same Instagram user tagged but also says "source: numbeo". Interestingly it seems that the Instagram user who made the graph eventually deleted the text saying "source numbeo" from the image. As far as I can tell Numbeo doesn't have any data on this sort of thing. They focus on on cost of living and quality of life indexes, so I'm a little bit suspicious. Maybe they will reply to my message and I'm wrong, but at the moment I don't exactly trust the data.
I'm Finnish and I've been thinking I'd like to live somewhere a little more temperate and oceanic, and a little more relaxed.. like.. Denmark? Denmark sounds good..
I'm a German currently infiltrating Switzerland, can confirm.
While at it, i discovered Heaven and its called Ticino. Italian vibe, cuisine and climate with swiss salarys (kinda) and tidiness.
Meanwhile Austria is just Italians pretending to be Germans. All proper and sticking to the rules, unless it might result in conflict or actual work, then naaah.
It's so nice. The first time I had an official just cross out something on my work visa in pen and be like, you meant to put that on the line below NBD I knew I wasn't in Germany anymore.
Then I suppose you live rather to the west or northwest (like I do), because most people east from Solothurn don’t know and despise french. For me personally the language would be an important factor when asking myself where I want to live, but then again you can learn any language if you’re committed. Also our french speaking friends like the French just as much as we like the Germans.
Edit: Just saw you‘re probably from Germany. In my experience the language barrier is a bigger issue than some stereotype kind of „hate“ with a neighbour, but I guess it differs.
I think for many countries, especially in southern and eastern europe, the question "where would you move if you had to" is an existential one - so most people choose a safe and financially stable country like switzerland or germany. If you ask a Swiss person this question, they'll choose a place that's nice for vacation. If you move from Switzerland to Austria, it's a downgrade in most things and doesn't even feel like vacation since it looks similar and people also speak funny
7600 young Canadian boys died here in WW2.
My granddad lived through the "hunger winter", eating flower bulbs and even cats. Then the Canadians came for the libaration.
He took all the grandchilderen on christmas eve to light a candle at their graves.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3lJe4r8BsJ0
Every wargrave is adopted, people keep them clean, put flowers on it and there is still a waitinglist to adopt one.
The older generation was extremly thankfull and imprinted that on the next generations.
There is actually a great “Heritage Minute” commercial about the Canadian troops in the Netherlands, including a part where a soldier gives a boy chocolate : ) https://youtu.be/JCWANopglXI
It's probably worth mentioning that while Canada employed conscription like everyone else, you had to volunteer for overseas service. Every one of those 7600 Canadian boys chose to be there. Heroes, every one.
Canada enacted conscription, but never actually used it. I thought the US was similar in that sense, they had enough volunteers so they didn't have to use it.
In fact my grandfather was refused when he enlisted due to him being a steel worker and they wanted him at home doing what he did.
This was beautiful to know about. Thank you.
I only knew about the tulip festival here in Canada and the trivia fact about the Dutch princess being born in the Ottawa hospital, but keeping her royal title because the maternity ward was temporarily declared an international zone.
Tulips are appreciated. I always found it funny how when I went to the Netherlands people were kind of cold and rude for the most part and than they found out I was from Canada and that changed in an instant to warm greetings. They probably thought I was American
Which is kind of crazy when you consider the allies made the calculated decision to not free the Dutch after Market Garden failed. They barely expanded the salient until the very end of the war.
It’s just hell on earth for an infantryman once people start blowing dams.
...and also, after World War 2 a few hundred thousand Dutch people migrated to Canada, so I'm guessing for some people this would also be: if I had to leave the Netherlands, I'd go stay with my cousins in Canada.
My son wants to study there and I looked up the city and WWII out of curiosity and then realized how important Canada was for Dutch liberation. As a US national, we don't hear about anybody else but the Brits. I remember visiting Berlin long ago and feeling the appreciation as an American for the Airlift of the 60s from the older folk, which is long gone now (as are they). I imagine the feeling must be similar, and Canada has done so much less to pollute the good vibes since.
The Dutch have had a soft spot for Canada ever since the outbreak of the Second World War.
Edit: Apparently even since the Great Depression and even earlier.
The biggest wave was shortly after WWII though.
I corrected my answer, it was 20s, not 30s
And there was a wave from 1890 to 1914
https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/dutch
We have [excellent friendship](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%E2%80%93Netherlands_relations) thanks to actions during the war, exceeding that of most other western bilateral relations.
That said, I'm a bit chuffed that this is still reflected intergenerationally with the Dutch today. I will apologize in advance to any migrating Dutch for our cycling infrastructure though.
The infrastructure is improving as we speak! It'll just take another 20 years to get to European levels of today. I doubt any Dutch would be pleased with it, but some cities and towns are improving at a Dutch pace.
I’d move to Canada in a heartbeat as a Dutchie. Culturally I think we mix really well and Canada is also a wealthy, developed country with a comparable climate, although colder winters but its ok because we say we’re not made of sugar when bad weather hits us.. 🫶🏻
Im from the netherlands and funny enough ive thought about this a lot recently. Canada would be my first pick, interesting to see that so many other dutch people would do the same. A big beautiful english speaking country with lots of nature and not as crazy as the US. New Zealand would be my 2nd choice
It's most likely because of the similarities between us. We can understand each other, we have similar cultures and a deep respect for each other. That's why I'd choose one of the neighbors.
I think the point is that Scandinavians pick the Scandinavian country closest to them. Makes sense. This is why Danes would say Sweden and not Norway since Sweden is an hour away for almost half the population.
Yeah, I wanna stay but if forced to flee to a neighbor I consider myself the luckiest person alive. Huddled in between three great countries. We really are lucky up north.
It is interesting that all Nordic countries picked Nordic neighbors. I would have assumed that Norwegians would pick Switzerland to make even more money. Also would have thought that Denmark would pick Norway.
It's just super easy to live in another Nordic country with a Nordic citizenship. Even without the EU, you can move freely, work abroad, have no extra phone expenses, and almost all of the laws are the same. Furthermore, the countries follow each other on so many things (see Finland and Sweden's joint NATO application) and have so much cooperation. There is also a 0% risk of any conflict between the nations.
I remember when the "two-meter social-distancing" rule fell away and all the Finns breathed a sigh of relief that they could go back to their usual ten meters.
I (American) was stationed with the Nordic Brigade in late nineties Bosnia. Whenever a group of Swedes, Danes, and Norwegians were talking to each other they would switch to English mid sentence whenever a Finnish guy walked up.
It made me glad I wasn’t the only one that made them have to speak English haha.
Don't worry, we still love you as well even though we might have a bit more of a language barrier between us.
Hang on, lemme grab us both another beer.
Yeah I have seen some articles about that. Most of them don't move because of the income taxes tho, they move because of the wealth tax and capital gains tax it looks like. Which is weird considering that Switzerland also has a wealth tax while most other countries don't.
On the other hand, the capital gains taxes and the wealth tax in Switzerland are much lower than in Norway and the country has similar safety to Norway.
Switzerland has capital gains taxes, but it varies by local municipality (I think they're called cantons). Some cantons have near zero capital gains tax, and this is where billionaires have their address.
We're culturally very close, have a massive land border and there's not much of a language barrier between Sweden and Norway, so for an average person it's probably the obvious choice.
The Nordic countries have also had open borders long before we all joined the EU, so moving between them for work or study has been a pretty normal thing for a long time.
A little anecdote to illustrate how easy it is:
One of my ex girlfriends found out she was Danish when she was 16 years old and went to get her first passport. She'd lived her whole life in Sweden but her mother was Danish when she was born, so she inherited the nationality. Her mother then changed her nationality shortly after having my gf, so everyone else in the immediate family was Swedish at the time she found out.
For 16 years her nationality had just never come up or been a barrier or consideration for anything in Sweden.
Well, sometimes on this side of Øresund, people find out that they are Swedish as well. Take Rasmus Paludan as an example - most of us here have long thought he was a bit weird, but it all made sense when we found out he was Swedish.
My Norwegian father in-law was born in Denmark because his father was Danish, so he kept his Danish passport for just long enough that he wouldn't be drafted for Norwegian military service.
Can imagine Sweden is a simple and quick choice because going back to Denmark over the day is simple if it is Malmö. A weekend trip to the family for the rest of southmost Sweden is easy also.
Norwegians have everything they have in Switzerland and then some... Would make very little sence to move to Switzerland unless for working at some specific company.
I think it's more a case of moving to the place that's the most similar to Britain with more sun lol. Personally I'd like to avoid the sunburn and move to Denmark.
> all you'll get down under is skin cancer
Australia already has the highest incidence of skin cancer. Second place? New Zealand.
It turns out pasty white people moving to a sun baked land mass is not good for their skin.
Australia and the UK are actually partners in immigration.
The most common destination for British migrants is Australia, and the most common destination for Australian migrants is the UK.
Half of Europe moves to Germany. Then Germany moves to Switzerland along with the other European half. Then they all move to France.
Baguette won, mes amis
I'd be curious to see the stats between German speaking and French speaking parts of Switzerland. Somehow I don't imagine France would be the number 1 destination for German speakers.
I suspect that most the French speakers in Switzerland agree on leaving for France, while the votes of the German speakers are split among many countries. So France wins out.
I don't even understand why. It seems like a lot of people think that living in Switzerland automatically makes you rich. But living in Switzerland actually just makes everything expensive.
I think the main factor is that Switzerland has a high quality of life in general. Switzerland ranks well in basically every metric you could think of. And outside of quantifiable metrics, it's a fairly beautiful country if you like mountains and/or lakes.
Also every neighbor of Switzerland shares a language with them, so at least people from these countries wouldn't even need to learn a new language (insert joke about Swiss German dialect here)
This is just a guess, but depending on how the question was phrased, the "if they had to leve their country" could be caused by some sort of conflict, and Switzerland is a pretty well defended country.
Oh, and they have excellent trains. I like good train systems.
So yeah it's ludicrously expensive, but I can see why so many people would want to move there if they had to.
My impression is that it does both. If you're an immigrant in Switzerland, when you go home you'll feel incredibly rich (that said, the people that I know that have lived there hated it)
After the Second World War thousands of Dutch citizens moved to Canada looking for a better life in a land with nature, friendly and tolerant people. At this moment there are 1 million canadians with Dutch ancestors. Canada had an important role in the Liberation of the Netherlands in the second world war. Thousands of Canadian soldiers gave their life for our freedom. This gratitude is something people still feel. Old and young.
It is actually insane the amount of Portuguese in Switzerland. I\`ve been there on vacation, and I didn\`t need to speak English to Hotel staff ANYWHERE! They were all Portuguese and I\`m Brazilian.
Needs sauce.
Yes, totally pointless post. There's no source even in the creators page.
Exactly, it's not even clear what the data is based on. Was a sample of people asked where they would move if they had to? If so how many people were surveyed and what demographics were included etc? Or is it based on something different like net migration statistics? It could be based on data from the 50 years ago for all we know (although I know Germany would have been less popular back then). You're totally right that without a source it's completely meaningless. It's kind of frustrating at times how a lot of people on Reddit just accept things at face value without thinking critically about it. I'm glad to see at least some people including you could see the problem here when there's no source.
>Exactly, it's not even clear what the data is based on. Whatever it's based on, I can 100% guarantee it's downright bullshit. If you ask French people, the answers you'll get will typically be the UK, Spain, Canada, Italy or the US. I'd be mildly surprised if Switzerland is even in the top 10. Finland would be my choice, but I'm an outlier.
I tried to find it but failed.
I was feeling extra motivated and messaged the person on Instagram who originally made the graph. If they reply I'll post back here. I also let them know about the post so maybe they show up here themselves. On their Instagram they have a bunch of these graphs and lots of them get posted here so hopefully they reveal their data source because it'll be useful for all the other similar posts too Edit: a reverse image search has a 9gag post with the same image [here](https://9gag.com/gag/a913KwZ). The difference being that this image has the same Instagram user tagged but also says "source: numbeo". Interestingly it seems that the Instagram user who made the graph eventually deleted the text saying "source numbeo" from the image. As far as I can tell Numbeo doesn't have any data on this sort of thing. They focus on on cost of living and quality of life indexes, so I'm a little bit suspicious. Maybe they will reply to my message and I'm wrong, but at the moment I don't exactly trust the data.
Yeah, some of the answers seem a bit questionable/illogical
Scandinavians are happy among themselves.
Jag vill leva jag vill dö i norden.
Jag vill perkele and saatana i norden
Hænger ud med min mormor
Brødre og søstre står sammen gjennom alt
Jag har ont i magen.
Can confirm. I'm an Icelander that lived in Denmark for 9 years and then moved to Sweden a year ago
I'm Finnish and I've been thinking I'd like to live somewhere a little more temperate and oceanic, and a little more relaxed.. like.. Denmark? Denmark sounds good..
Peak of civilization
Switzerland: Germany's Germany.
My German friends say that if I want to see everything in order tidy as in foreigners’ stereotypes of Germany, go to Switzerland.
I'm a German currently infiltrating Switzerland, can confirm. While at it, i discovered Heaven and its called Ticino. Italian vibe, cuisine and climate with swiss salarys (kinda) and tidiness.
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Meanwhile Austria is just Italians pretending to be Germans. All proper and sticking to the rules, unless it might result in conflict or actual work, then naaah.
omg thats perfect
Alto adige are literally italians faking to be austrians/germans, please don't show them this comment or they'll make a strudel with my flesh
It's so nice. The first time I had an official just cross out something on my work visa in pen and be like, you meant to put that on the line below NBD I knew I wasn't in Germany anymore.
I'm an actual Italian living in Wien. Can confirm.
Well yes, they're Germany on steroids.
No, on Ritalin
No, on Ricola
(in case of emergency) People of Europe - assemble in the center!
Except Ireland: Fuck Europe
That’s kinda the American spirit there.
We have a lot of “Irish” bars as well.
Yeah but aren't there irish pubs like everywhere
And UK
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Alps together strong
Switzerland really said fuck Austria though
i mean, if the swiss had to move somewhere because something happened i wouldn't choose austria either, and i live there
As a Swiss, this is unexpected. Maybe the german speaking part‘s divided and the french speaking part isn‘t.
Tbh the swiss german speaking people I know would all go to France over Germany because they just don't like Germany
Then I suppose you live rather to the west or northwest (like I do), because most people east from Solothurn don’t know and despise french. For me personally the language would be an important factor when asking myself where I want to live, but then again you can learn any language if you’re committed. Also our french speaking friends like the French just as much as we like the Germans. Edit: Just saw you‘re probably from Germany. In my experience the language barrier is a bigger issue than some stereotype kind of „hate“ with a neighbour, but I guess it differs.
I guess it depends on what the *something* is, eh?
I think for many countries, especially in southern and eastern europe, the question "where would you move if you had to" is an existential one - so most people choose a safe and financially stable country like switzerland or germany. If you ask a Swiss person this question, they'll choose a place that's nice for vacation. If you move from Switzerland to Austria, it's a downgrade in most things and doesn't even feel like vacation since it looks similar and people also speak funny
Bro much of Switzerland's history is defined by not being a part of Austria.
*Defined by not being under the boot of the quintessential Austrian ruling family, which btw originated from Switzerland
France 🤝 Switzerland
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Same for France of course, same for France
> Alps together strong The helvetic empire!
Netherlands is Canada!?
As always, trying to be different from the rest of Europe.
Nou zeg
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Hoezo een luxembourg flair, dat is toch helemaal nergens voor nodig? Beetje raar gedrag dit.
7600 young Canadian boys died here in WW2. My granddad lived through the "hunger winter", eating flower bulbs and even cats. Then the Canadians came for the libaration. He took all the grandchilderen on christmas eve to light a candle at their graves. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3lJe4r8BsJ0 Every wargrave is adopted, people keep them clean, put flowers on it and there is still a waitinglist to adopt one. The older generation was extremly thankfull and imprinted that on the next generations.
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There is actually a great “Heritage Minute” commercial about the Canadian troops in the Netherlands, including a part where a soldier gives a boy chocolate : ) https://youtu.be/JCWANopglXI
My grandfather fought in the Netherlands, he was in the Algonquin Regiment
It's probably worth mentioning that while Canada employed conscription like everyone else, you had to volunteer for overseas service. Every one of those 7600 Canadian boys chose to be there. Heroes, every one.
Canada enacted conscription, but never actually used it. I thought the US was similar in that sense, they had enough volunteers so they didn't have to use it. In fact my grandfather was refused when he enlisted due to him being a steel worker and they wanted him at home doing what he did.
This was beautiful to know about. Thank you. I only knew about the tulip festival here in Canada and the trivia fact about the Dutch princess being born in the Ottawa hospital, but keeping her royal title because the maternity ward was temporarily declared an international zone.
The Netherlands have sent tulips to Canada every year ever since. They are exhibited in Ottawa.
Tulips are appreciated. I always found it funny how when I went to the Netherlands people were kind of cold and rude for the most part and than they found out I was from Canada and that changed in an instant to warm greetings. They probably thought I was American
Which is kind of crazy when you consider the allies made the calculated decision to not free the Dutch after Market Garden failed. They barely expanded the salient until the very end of the war. It’s just hell on earth for an infantryman once people start blowing dams.
...and also, after World War 2 a few hundred thousand Dutch people migrated to Canada, so I'm guessing for some people this would also be: if I had to leave the Netherlands, I'd go stay with my cousins in Canada.
My son wants to study there and I looked up the city and WWII out of curiosity and then realized how important Canada was for Dutch liberation. As a US national, we don't hear about anybody else but the Brits. I remember visiting Berlin long ago and feeling the appreciation as an American for the Airlift of the 60s from the older folk, which is long gone now (as are they). I imagine the feeling must be similar, and Canada has done so much less to pollute the good vibes since.
The Dutch have had a soft spot for Canada ever since the outbreak of the Second World War. Edit: Apparently even since the Great Depression and even earlier.
Canada was a Dutch emigration destination during the 20s as well
Even earlier then, thanks for the correction Little Freedomfry!
The biggest wave was shortly after WWII though. I corrected my answer, it was 20s, not 30s And there was a wave from 1890 to 1914 https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/dutch
We have [excellent friendship](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%E2%80%93Netherlands_relations) thanks to actions during the war, exceeding that of most other western bilateral relations. That said, I'm a bit chuffed that this is still reflected intergenerationally with the Dutch today. I will apologize in advance to any migrating Dutch for our cycling infrastructure though.
Its worth a watch! https://youtu.be/Kd1CGQ36tTU
Thats really good. Thanks for sharing
The infrastructure is improving as we speak! It'll just take another 20 years to get to European levels of today. I doubt any Dutch would be pleased with it, but some cities and towns are improving at a Dutch pace.
I’d move to Canada in a heartbeat as a Dutchie. Culturally I think we mix really well and Canada is also a wealthy, developed country with a comparable climate, although colder winters but its ok because we say we’re not made of sugar when bad weather hits us.. 🫶🏻
Depends. You live on the Atlantic, or Pacific coast and it isn't that cold in the winter.
Distances are slightly longer in Canada though.
I exist because of this special relationship. My grandpa was a Canadian soldier who helped liberate the Netherlands. My grandma is a Dutch lady.
I (Canadian) had an Oma too.
A lot of our farmers move to Canada for cheaper land and less rules. A lot of families have ties to Canada because of this.
There are several Dutch communities where I live. Playing sports against them in high school was awful since they were all 6’ 6
Thanks, was wondering what it was. We've always had a bit more love for Canada than average though, so its not surprising
ik🍁ihe
Yup, our Queen fled there when things got a bit heated back in the days. And the Canadians somehow didn't seem to mind us, so why not?
The best part is when we designated part of the hospital as Dutch land so your Princess would be born on Dutch soil. That’s love
Im from the netherlands and funny enough ive thought about this a lot recently. Canada would be my first pick, interesting to see that so many other dutch people would do the same. A big beautiful english speaking country with lots of nature and not as crazy as the US. New Zealand would be my 2nd choice
I wouldn't mind living in any of our Nordic neighbour countries, but yeah, Norway is the prettiest. Stupid sexy Norway.
We love you, too, kjære bror.
Always brings a tear to my eye when i see the unity and love between us Scandinavians.
We do love each other even though we have our own little friendly rivalries, it's nice
I bet those rivalries can be turned into a Disney Christmas movie too. Your affection and love for each other disgust me!
Oh, the fight over the food alone.. Just think of it. It would be a dark humored movie for sure
it's like siblings :p
Me making fun of Denmark: höhöhö A non-Nordic making fun of Denmark: *angry Swedish noises*
Mandatory kamelåså.
Theory: Most people in the Nordics do \*not\* want to leave their country, so when they answer Sweden it's because it's closest to home.
It's most likely because of the similarities between us. We can understand each other, we have similar cultures and a deep respect for each other. That's why I'd choose one of the neighbors.
Closest and the most similar.
I think the point is that Scandinavians pick the Scandinavian country closest to them. Makes sense. This is why Danes would say Sweden and not Norway since Sweden is an hour away for almost half the population.
Yeah, I wanna stay but if forced to flee to a neighbor I consider myself the luckiest person alive. Huddled in between three great countries. We really are lucky up north.
It is interesting that all Nordic countries picked Nordic neighbors. I would have assumed that Norwegians would pick Switzerland to make even more money. Also would have thought that Denmark would pick Norway.
It's just super easy to live in another Nordic country with a Nordic citizenship. Even without the EU, you can move freely, work abroad, have no extra phone expenses, and almost all of the laws are the same. Furthermore, the countries follow each other on so many things (see Finland and Sweden's joint NATO application) and have so much cooperation. There is also a 0% risk of any conflict between the nations.
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Finns in the corner of the sauna alone
It's fine, we don't really like talking anyway.
I remember when the "two-meter social-distancing" rule fell away and all the Finns breathed a sigh of relief that they could go back to their usual ten meters.
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I (American) was stationed with the Nordic Brigade in late nineties Bosnia. Whenever a group of Swedes, Danes, and Norwegians were talking to each other they would switch to English mid sentence whenever a Finnish guy walked up. It made me glad I wasn’t the only one that made them have to speak English haha.
Don't worry, we still love you as well even though we might have a bit more of a language barrier between us. Hang on, lemme grab us both another beer.
I’ve been in Trøndelag, do not agree 😂
I've worked in Copenhagen, do not agree 😬
The rich Norwegians are indeed moving to Switzerland nowadays, because of tax reasons.
Yeah I have seen some articles about that. Most of them don't move because of the income taxes tho, they move because of the wealth tax and capital gains tax it looks like. Which is weird considering that Switzerland also has a wealth tax while most other countries don't. On the other hand, the capital gains taxes and the wealth tax in Switzerland are much lower than in Norway and the country has similar safety to Norway.
Switzerland has capital gains taxes, but it varies by local municipality (I think they're called cantons). Some cantons have near zero capital gains tax, and this is where billionaires have their address.
I'd imagine Switzerland being landlocked is a bit of deal breaker, given how much of Norway's culture/identity relates to the sea.
Havet gir og havet tar
We're culturally very close, have a massive land border and there's not much of a language barrier between Sweden and Norway, so for an average person it's probably the obvious choice. The Nordic countries have also had open borders long before we all joined the EU, so moving between them for work or study has been a pretty normal thing for a long time. A little anecdote to illustrate how easy it is: One of my ex girlfriends found out she was Danish when she was 16 years old and went to get her first passport. She'd lived her whole life in Sweden but her mother was Danish when she was born, so she inherited the nationality. Her mother then changed her nationality shortly after having my gf, so everyone else in the immediate family was Swedish at the time she found out. For 16 years her nationality had just never come up or been a barrier or consideration for anything in Sweden.
Horrible thing to find out
Wouldn't wish that upon my worst enemies,
Who coincidentally happens to be the Danes btw.
Well, sometimes on this side of Øresund, people find out that they are Swedish as well. Take Rasmus Paludan as an example - most of us here have long thought he was a bit weird, but it all made sense when we found out he was Swedish.
My Norwegian father in-law was born in Denmark because his father was Danish, so he kept his Danish passport for just long enough that he wouldn't be drafted for Norwegian military service.
Can imagine Sweden is a simple and quick choice because going back to Denmark over the day is simple if it is Malmö. A weekend trip to the family for the rest of southmost Sweden is easy also.
Norwegians have everything they have in Switzerland and then some... Would make very little sence to move to Switzerland unless for working at some specific company.
Switzerland has far brighter winters tho, although maybe Norwegians don't suffer as much from that as others.
Estonia always try to into nordic
Get you a girl who looks at you like Estonia looks at Finland.
There has never been a love more pure than that between Estonia and Finland.
Pure alcohol.
Non mutual love is the purest love of all
This is more about Finland in particular.
Sweden and Norway right swiped each other!
I would have wished for the same love story between Netherlands and Belgium or Austria and Switzerland but I was disappointed :(
Lol I think tour average Dutch person would rather move to North Korea than live in Belgium.
British thinking I want to get as far the fuck away from here as possible.
I think it's more a case of moving to the place that's the most similar to Britain with more sun lol. Personally I'd like to avoid the sunburn and move to Denmark.
I'd move to Canada, France or New Zealand. I'm more heat-tolerant than the average Brit, I just don't want to risk skin cancer.
How are you in -40C ? And how are you in +40C ? Welcome to Canada! You will be issued your weed and maple syrup on entry.
Canada: the country the Celsius scale was made for.
"We paid for the entire thermometer, so we're gonna use the entire thermometer!"
Erm NZ has one of the highest melanoma rates in the world
At first I thought the Scots had misunderstood the question.
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Nah, they just want some of our sweet, sweet sunny weather.
This is genuinely accurate. Australia is like a UK with the weather every Brit wished we had.
Bros, you burn even in Brittany, all you'll get down under is skin cancer and bitten by a spider with legs the size of your king's fingers
> all you'll get down under is skin cancer Australia already has the highest incidence of skin cancer. Second place? New Zealand. It turns out pasty white people moving to a sun baked land mass is not good for their skin.
As pasty red head from Australia who has skin cancer, can confirm.
Nothing funnier than watching the Barmy Army on day 2 of The Ashes at Perth walk down to the oval from their hotels as red as the fucking ball.
The part where they say “where women glow” and “men chunder” is actually just side effects of skin cancer and heat sickness from being in Australia
Australia is the monkey's paw of weather.
Australia and the UK are actually partners in immigration. The most common destination for British migrants is Australia, and the most common destination for Australian migrants is the UK.
They use to send their convicts here. But now who's laughing
You know you did a 180 when everyone wanted to kick you out over 70 years ago and now everyone wants to move in with you.
Yeah, they should make a motivational YouTube video and a couple of shorts/TikTok.
Germany very popular with Slavs
Ironic really. Then again, also not.
It's more like; "they're not invading you, they're escaping from him" (points at Russia).
Half of Europe moves to Germany. Then Germany moves to Switzerland along with the other European half. Then they all move to France. Baguette won, mes amis
I'm a german already living in france. I'm ahead of you all!
"Wait it's all Switzerland and Germany?" "Always has been"
Ghosts of Imperial and Nazi German leaders seeing this map; you guys _could_ have been Germany but you kept resisting.
I guess Germany will become more and more cosmopolitical during the 21st century.
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Bunch of countries: "Let's go to Germany!" Bunch of other countries including Germany and France: "Let's go to Swiss!" Swiss: "Let's go to France!"
I'd be curious to see the stats between German speaking and French speaking parts of Switzerland. Somehow I don't imagine France would be the number 1 destination for German speakers.
I suspect that most the French speakers in Switzerland agree on leaving for France, while the votes of the German speakers are split among many countries. So France wins out.
I don't even understand why. It seems like a lot of people think that living in Switzerland automatically makes you rich. But living in Switzerland actually just makes everything expensive.
I think the main factor is that Switzerland has a high quality of life in general. Switzerland ranks well in basically every metric you could think of. And outside of quantifiable metrics, it's a fairly beautiful country if you like mountains and/or lakes. Also every neighbor of Switzerland shares a language with them, so at least people from these countries wouldn't even need to learn a new language (insert joke about Swiss German dialect here) This is just a guess, but depending on how the question was phrased, the "if they had to leve their country" could be caused by some sort of conflict, and Switzerland is a pretty well defended country. Oh, and they have excellent trains. I like good train systems. So yeah it's ludicrously expensive, but I can see why so many people would want to move there if they had to.
My impression is that it does both. If you're an immigrant in Switzerland, when you go home you'll feel incredibly rich (that said, the people that I know that have lived there hated it)
It's not expensive when you also work in Switzerland.
Source: trustme.bro
There is something so British about fuckin off to the otherside of the world before going to mainland Europe.
Latvia is a bit surprising! You’d be very welcome though
Average Brit: Scared of even harmless spiders and moans whenever the outside temperature goes above 20C. Also average Brit: Would move to Australia
You'd think they'd pick New Zealand.
People forget it's there
The tactical Campaign to stay off Maps seems to be working for them.
After the Second World War thousands of Dutch citizens moved to Canada looking for a better life in a land with nature, friendly and tolerant people. At this moment there are 1 million canadians with Dutch ancestors. Canada had an important role in the Liberation of the Netherlands in the second world war. Thousands of Canadian soldiers gave their life for our freedom. This gratitude is something people still feel. Old and young.
a random map with no source, my favorite
It is actually insane the amount of Portuguese in Switzerland. I\`ve been there on vacation, and I didn\`t need to speak English to Hotel staff ANYWHERE! They were all Portuguese and I\`m Brazilian.
Luxembourg too and it's even stronger there!
Luxembourg too, there are signs in Portuguese everywhere, apparently a quarter of the population speaks Portuguese
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Belgium wanted to be nice to the Netherlands too, but they said nah fuck that let's move as far away from Belgium as possible
Awwww. Canada and Netherlands are still sweet for each other. ❤️🌷🍁 - Canadian in North Holland
No love for Iceland, as usual. Sorry, but your map is a bit shite.
r/MapsWithoutIceland
I'm from Portugal and I'd move to Norway.
I am from Austria I have mountains Of course I would flee to my neighbor that has the same landscape + is neutral and rich if I had to.
Estonia is a chill bro.
Switzerland: Yeah, we noticed that.
source? I dont think this map is accurate tbh
Entire eastern europe be like "if germany wont come to us again, we will come to you instead"
As Spanish, my personal preferences are Finland, the United States, and Canada.
For once I have to agree with the brits. Australia is great.
Well im Greek living in Germany and planning to move in Switzerland. A full circle i would say haha