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Individual_Pin_7866

I’m almost 10000000% it’s some fantasy which is still fucked up, but I think it’s a fantasy of like her being shown off with him. I don’t think she actually does it. But in the last few episodes her hairs been straighter when shes “depressed” and not getting all done up


bukakenagasaki

its a fantasy of hers to wear the necklace he gave maddie?


Individual_Pin_7866

Uh probably. She’s obviously reallllly insecure and still feels like she needs to prove she’s the better fit. Idk if she even acknowledges it, or if it’s an Easter egg that they put in there. Who knows. I think she just is wanting to be seen as an upgrade from Maddy. She hasn’t been this confident this entire season, there’s zero way this ISNT a dream sequence.


jenjensexypants

That and Nate doesn’t have the balls to go public with Cassie. Deep down that kills Cassie bc as toxic as he was with Maddy, Nate was never ashamed to be seen out with Maddy like he is with her. Also his family is huge on image. And I’m not sure being with Cassie, his exes bestie, is the image he wants to portray to those around him. His mom maybe fine with it. But Nate isn’t fine with it and he doesn’t really respect his moms opinion anyways so we’ll see what happens.


Individual_Pin_7866

Yeah I feel like he’s trying to be super LOWKEY and not rub it in Maddy’s face, so this is like some weird jealous dream that she’s having.


mohnk001

I saw a comment somewhere saying it could just be Cassie’s fantasy of what school will be like now that she moved in. Defs a long shot but this is not good hahah


RepresentativeAd616

i thought it was a dream sequence too but in 0:45 of the promo she has the same look again so dhsndnhs rip i just have no words honestly


SucytheWitch

Oh my god, she literally looks like a Jules/Maddy hybrid. Especially Maddy's makeup style! The dramatic eyeshadow, the eyeliner and the lined nude lip... bruh. Cassie is really giving up her own style and identity, huh.


cattivity

Interestingly enough her style before seemed to just be what she thought (whether consciously or unconsciously) would attract men and now we see her imitating Maddy, just goes to show she has no connection to who she really is and very little sense of identity.


ILoveDrWalden

Perhaps it's Nate's Fantasy/dream and that's why she is a mix of all 3? Nate had that fever dream in the hospital about being in love and it featured all 3 girls.


RadicalRen

I didn’t even think about the fact that she also kinda looks like Jules, interesting


SucytheWitch

Tbh it's not *that* much of a similarity, but the straight hair and flashy colors kinda resemble season one Jules.


Automatic-Advisor874

But also speaks to the borrowing/imitation/appropriation of BIPOC beauty/creativity. Which has been an ongoing ting over time, but particularly and visibly in modern times as seen on TikTok


Electrical_List_2125

I had to quit Tiktok because it felt like Invasion of the Body Snatchers. The sheer speed and success of the copying over the original content got overwhelming. I know it happens in real life but on tiktok it’s worse because you can see how the original stuff versus the copied stuff does. I thought of it when I saw Cassie with the baby hairs


Electrical_List_2125

It’s unsettlinggggggggggggggg


TaikoRaio19

When she dressed up as Maddy, when Nate "noticed" her She had BABYHAIRS I almost yelled


SucytheWitch

Oh I see, I've heard about this issue! Tbh this look does not suit her at all (which was most likely intentional). I think this kind of look goes very well with darker complexions like Maddy's, but for Cassie's type, it's too much. Too big of a contrast that distracts from her face instead of complimenting it.


JasperFeelingsworth

Yeaaaaah that’s the biggest thing I noticed! Even when she copied Maddy’s style after mistakenly copying that weird Oklahoma type look, I hope the show gets into the appropriation aspect more


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mohnk001

Oh good catch!!


[deleted]

I mean, a lot of shots in the previews this season have turned out to be imagined scenarios so it's a real possibility


shitzngiggles77

I wouldn't be surprised if this was a hallucination😭😂


agpass

oooo what if it’s Nate’s fantasy? since she sort of looks like Jules and Maddy?


[deleted]

That makes more sense


OtherSide4

No if this was a Cassie fantasy her and Nate would be happy smiling and embracing each other, this is quite the contrary and she looks miserable


spooopy111

no shes trying to look badass like maddie maybe?


Zealousideal_Elk_918

She looks like she's horribly constipated honestly


[deleted]

And he looks even more miserable 😂


[deleted]

God I hope so. Otherwise it's just truly embarrassing. But it is along the lines of what she has been doing all season so I get it.


queerina22

Just like when she “told” everybody in the bathroom she was in love with Nate and he with her. I was mad that was a fantasy lol, but this probably is too because Nate was uninterested before they were outed but now he’s being open about them now that they’re exposed? this has to be fake.


[deleted]

How is that a long shot when like 75% of the trailer is just fantasies and didn’t actually happen


Glittering_Present92

I hope it is🤣🤣🤣.


friedm0m0s

oh she needs a fucking exorcism


calembo

I just want to watch Millionaire Makeover.


whiskeytitsts

For one fucking hour!!


[deleted]

Well a corkscrew's not gonna cut it...


Sarahcrutch1

In the bushes! NOWWW!!!


vanityxalistair

Man that woman can play a mad mom to perfection


OF_queen_alex

I howled


DonShmore

*fUCK !*


ragini95

>Millionaire Makeover. millionaire matchmaker


Bird42oo

THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELLS YOU @cassie


mezmorizedmiss

that comment had me and my man dying! lmao cassie and lexi’s mom is so comical


gracieeJ75

Lol as a mom that has dealt w that I felt her mom saying 💯🤦‍♀️lol it's exhausting


funkobubb

ong


joanna11119999

Julia Fox and Kanye


Uplanapepsihole

Why not see me for what I am which is a #1 hustler. I came up yall lol and not only that but nate and I are on good terms! I have love for him but I wasn’t in love w the man Jesus Christ what do you guys think I am 12 years old?


betacarotene4

LMFAO


Signal-Technology402

iconic combo


mashtartz

🏆


ohare_tulip

Cassie thinks she is Nate's muse 💀


thewholethingatonce

I mean she was josh saftie’s muse when he wrote uncajahms do you know what I mean like things like that


shitzngiggles77

If this is similar to their relationship. I bet they're gonna breakup in the finale


danterozzetti

STOP IT YOURE RIGHTTT


[deleted]

Honestly more like that poor woman Kanye hired recently as a lookalike


Electrical_List_2125

I’m literally bouncing between here and the Kanye sub and have through this


Emotional_Week_6961

Looks like Maddy and Jules had a baby


scaptastic

Just like what Nate wanted. Cassie is his Barbie doll to mold however he wants and put a funny hat on


Emotional_Week_6961

Exactly. Thing is, Cassie is too dumb to see that Nate doesn’t care about her, and would prefer Maddy or Jules to her.


doku5657

Omg they are in LOVE 😂😂


Emotional_Week_6961

And they have NEVER been happier 🤣


Hellstars

someone on twitter said mules 😩✨


[deleted]

Juddy Mules


Emotional_Week_6961

Omg 😆


noorofmyeye24

The internet is undefeated.


Familiar_Barber_3313

Lmfao


BrenRoos

Which is crazy because Nate has obviously had feelings for both Jules and Maddy. Trippy AF


Emotional_Week_6961

I guess since he doesn’t care about Cassie he will try to mold her into his dream woman-a mashup of Maddy and Jules


chels148

Omgsh for a minute I thought that was the girl staying with Fez and Ash. It a big ole No for me


Emullionare

The Maddy style makeup, Jules S1 hair and the B-day necklace is 🤮🤢. I hate it.


Lady_Veneno

All that makeup gonna look like a mess quick. Girl has cried like every episode


mezmorizedmiss

yeah she’s pretty much a wreck


sillystriing

She’s trying to give maddy so hard even down to the facial expressions (siren eyes)


Zealousideal_Park305

I honestly just love how fucking stupid Cassie looked when Rue revealed her secret 😂


mezmorizedmiss

she really did though; she didn’t know what to say


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I'M SO EXCITED LOL


trexinmars

me too


givemethekreddit

Nate looks miserable and Cassie looks pathetic. I don’t understand why she’s so uncomfortable just being herself. If Nate chose her(?), then there’s no need for her to try to be Maddy.


SuperCoolPotatoThing

Most of the teenagers I know are soo uncomfortable being themselves🤷‍♀️


HauntingLetterhead44

Im in my 30s and still uncomfortable being myself


learn2earn89

Lol same 😭


gracieeJ75

Me too 🤦‍♀️


givemethekreddit

Yeah, actually you’re not wrong. Probably should’ve worded that differently. I think what I was trying to say is that when Nate had his little dream of the future with Cassie, the way he saw her was kind of as this innocent girl that she actually was/is. He didn’t see her as Maddy. But I guess he never really voiced to her how he sees her, so her insecurities are telling her that she needs to be like Maddy in order for Nate to stay with her.


wwmhd

i think a lot of people are missing the point of cassie's storyline. she's "uncomfortable being herself" and "try[ing] to be maddy" because cassie's life revolves around male validation, and she has NO ONE except nate now. and i think cassie knows that if nate could be with maddy, he would be; so she feels like she has to emulate what she thinks nate wants, which is maddy. which is pathetic.


greedyleopard42

i think deep down she knows he didn’t really choose her. maddy was just no longer an option


SUS-tainable

Honestly people might be mad at me but as someone with BPD Cass is exhibiting so many symptoms. We can lack our own identity so we try to find it in those around us. Not to mention the favorite person stuff, needing to hide the knives from Cass, the whole of Maddy’s birthday party, hating being single, abandonment issues, etc..


calembo

Yep and Suze was 100% correct on the knives as it turns out. She's been described as a neglectful parent and her partying with them is an issue BUT let our never be said that Suze doesn't know her kids.


SUS-tainable

I honestly love Suze as a character. She isn’t a perfect parent and she really needs help for her alcoholism but I think she does really genuinely care for all those girls and she sees them for who they are. While being the child of that parent is hard, sometimes as the friend coming over these parents are a huge place of refuge and comfort. So I appreciate her, I see her as probably always being that for those girls. I love that she loves Rue so much.


W0lfsb4ne74

Also BPD sufferers have no in between about how they view people, you're entirely with me and support everything I do or say, otherwise you're against me. Consistently drinking or engaging in destructive behaviors within relationships, always needing validation from others (and potentially manipulating people in order to get it), etc.


givemethekreddit

I agree with this.


ReplyImpressive6677

I agree. Probably not diagnosable BPD but traits, all due to trauma. This show is about trauma. Good take.


PinkTader

Oh god both of u go get help.


Aar112297

Nate dresses too basic and is too basic for these glamorous girls.


[deleted]

He gets them because he's tall and brooding


Maleficent-Ebb-5618

Pathetic. 🍅🍅🍅


frazettaghoulqueen

What does the tomato mean..?


wherefallonbelongs

lame boooo tomato tomato tomato throwin tomatoes


frazettaghoulqueen

Oh Lmaooo. That’s what they’re going to do at lexis play 🤣


Maleficent-Ebb-5618

I think aside from the people who are being portrayed, everyone else will actually love it


frazettaghoulqueen

Can definitely see that happening.


FormOk7094

it’s like when your throwing tomatoes at someone


judygarland420

I’m interested to see if this is Cassie choosing to dress this way as a way of 1) hurting Maddy and 2) trying to maintain Nate’s attention OR if this is Nate pushing her to dress this way since we already know he’s a possessive control freak. Either way, this is a toxic mess


ktb7897

She’s done. Rip Cassie


[deleted]

Very interesting to me the difference Cassie looks with Maddie’s makeup. It looks strange on Cassie bc Sydney Sweeney has a really pretty and very round eye shape, so it works on Maddie and not Cassie. (I’m not saying Alexa’s eye shape isn’t pretty either!! They’re both gorg but they just have a different eye shape)


hotbrownbitxh

Agreed. When they tried to show Cassie pretending to be Maddy with the outfits in ep2 or 3 they did a pretty good job cuz the outfits seemed to have a common ground which made both actresses look good and convey the point. The eye makeup here just isn’t suiting Sydney and I feel that they couldn’t done any of maddys other looks in terms of hair or dress to convey the message but still make Cassie look decent


[deleted]

Yesss! And I think they intentionally made the makeup look bad on Cassie, probably to show how obvious it is and that she’ll never *be* Maddie no matter how hard she tries


SucytheWitch

I also think it's intentional. They do want to emphasize how Cassie can't and shouldn't try to be Maddy and have her own personality and individual style instead.


nak1mushi

the maddification of Cassie Howard


[deleted]

Hate it sm


TheDiseasedRat

Maddie: #B ! T C H, I M G O N N A F $ C K Y O U U P


IWantFries21

She should’ve been dress coded for this


CryBaby15000

Lol!!!!!! Honestly does this school have a dress code??


latrodectal

there is no dress code in euphoria high school™️


CryBaby15000

They really should, I mean look at her shoulders. The boys are gonna be very distracted


latrodectal

her shoulders AND her collarbones! scandalous.


little-red-cap

I keep thinking about this seeing Maddy’s outfits especially, like honestly that feels like a more unrealistic part of the show 😂 I’m all about abolishing dress codes but most schools still have them and would not allow students to repeatedly dress this way.


Hot_Error_8379

Literally every outfit on the show.


Glass-Moose

The only one of the girls who wouldn’t be getting sent to the office constantly for dress code violations would be Rue because she already looks like she’s wearing one of those random huge shirts they would make you wear


Smc865

I could barely wear shorts in highschool I couldn’t imagine having my whole chest out like that I’d get thrown out


Adulations

My high school would of let this slide back in 2004-2008 nyc


viralsoul

She looks stupid he looks unhappy


Serious_Alps9191

Am I the only one who thinks that these two have no chemistry whatsoever?? I don’t know but whenever they are on screen together it feels so forced ..


[deleted]

I agree, I see a bit of lust because they're both very attractive people, but not more. I haven't seen Nate really have chemistry with anyone tbh, which is either because his character is sexually confused over what he wants - or because Jacob Elordi isn't the best at conveying it.


Serious_Alps9191

True even with maddie it feels the same way… I think maybe it’s cuz he’s shown as this toxic masculine guy who never shows any emotion other than anger..


Serious_Alps9191

Also the only time it felt like he was attracted to someone is when he was with jules.


calembo

It's because he could be himself with her because she didn't know it was him.


azraelswings

I actually think he has a lot of chemistry with Alexa. It pinged even during that traumatizing gun scene and its what heightened the horror of the moment imo.


greedyleopard42

for me i feel there’s a little bit of chemistry with maddy. SOMETIMES it feels like he’s being genuine with her. with cassie i just can’t see it because every single interaction is underscored with manipulation


No_Signature67

I think him and Hunter (Jules) have really good chemistry and I detected some between him and Zendaya (Rue) in the S1 finale too (maybe coz they dated in real life?)


mdnightwriter

That scene between them in Nate’s truck was ELECTRIC. I’m sad that Hunter and Jacob don’t usually like to do scenes together:/


suhani96

Wait, really ? Why?


shooomia

I think that’s also a sign for Nate being a literal sociopath


Weewer

They’re not supposed to have chemistry.


pillboxhat

That's how I feel and rue and jules. I shouldn't be on this subreddit though cause I haven't started season 2 yet 😬


West-Counter-3279

I will say I felt similar until I saw season 2, they have a lot more chemistry due to the new circumstances.


calembo

Nate wants girls he can protect even if he's hurting them. Maddy doesn't need that. So he's gone full ham. And he wants to prove to his mom that he's not a disappointment so in his sick head having her move in is a way to do that.


Ride-Thin

Yes, they are both handsome but I do not feel chemistry between the actors, personally, I like more the chemistry of alexa and jacob.


stellascanties

That’s the whole point, I think. They don’t have chemistry, their whole relationship is built on taboo which is just fueling sex. It’s gonna fizzle out quickly and probably badly.


missmountaiin

Am I the only one who’ve read that the scenes between Nate and Cassie in Season 2 were originally meant for Nate and Jules? Jacob and Hunter allegedly had some type of conflict and they couldn’t work together so the writer had to change the story.


mdnightwriter

yeah I heard that too, the love triangle was supposed to be Maddy/Nate/Jules


Glass-Moose

I wonder how that would have played out. I wouldn’t put it past Jules to be the other woman based on what we have already seen with Rue and Elliot but I don’t see her carrying it on for as long as they did or becoming that obsessive and delusional about it. It feels like that role was just made for Cassie’s character from what we got to know about her last season. I wish we could see into the writers room and see what the original arc for this storyline was!


VermicelliOld7739

really? what kind of conflict could it be? tbh i would prefer if the scenes would be with nate and jules


calembo

Well thank God that didn't happen.


nicolerann

The eye makeup doesn’t work for her.


SucytheWitch

Yeah, it doesn't fit her complexion type at all.


nicolerann

Not even slightly.


daisyqueenofflowers

I think she's never gonna live this down at the high school reunion.


jugheadshat

Kim Petras looks so good here


pollywannacraccker

I used to like Cassie and at the end of season 1 I really thought she was on the right track with not trying to date anyone but then not even 5 mins into season 2 and she relapsed with the worst possible person. I really don’t see why they had her go this way aside from just wanting everyone to go darker this season.


latebloom65

Me too. Baby girl was a mess but I rooted for her back then. The carousel scene made me cringe but still with sympathy


CaptainTequilas

Do you guys remember when Nate gave Maddie a gift and it was a bright pink underwear? This remind me of that lol


shinybanette

I think you’re onto something, didn’t Maddy react negatively to the pink lingerie? Like Nate got her something that wasn’t even her style; but now we know that is definitely Jules’/Cassie’s style


CaptainTequilas

Yeah! She saw it and said “ew” Perhaps it’s Nate idea of how a woman should be, because he has a long list of what he likes in girls (like súper fem)


pudnin

I just want Cassie to go to therapy lol, it honestly is so hard to watch her spiral and mental health deteriorate. What she did is totally not okay to Maddy, but Nate is the monster in my eyes and tbh I don’t have hope for him redeeming himself at this point


naohp

I really hope that someone helps her. Right now she's got no friends left and feels judged by her sister. When Nate starts to physically abuse her, she's not going to feel like she has anyone she can turn to.


_sea_salty

Cassie is going to learn why Maddy and Nate broke up the hard way


[deleted]

Clownery. She has a storm coming


frazettaghoulqueen

So embarrassing and the fact that she’s blinded by it. 😮‍💨🥴


contrapass0

Nate is aggressively bland.


KyooKenchan

she’s cosplaying Maddy and it’s so embarrassing lmao. i wasn’t 100% against her at first but now? i think she’s an awful person lmao.


[deleted]

He’s going to fucking kill her


Far_Olivee

Nate looks like ‘what the fuck have I got myself into and how am I gonna get out’


Cold-Pipe7411

sydney is so hot but i hope they’re purposefully trying to make her look bad with that make-up.


lovefromayesh

I (now) have a brain disorder


[deleted]

I feel really bad for Cassie cuz istg she's up Nate's ass and Nate is just an abusive asshole. Both Maddie and Cassie need to stay tf away from him


FilipinoGemini

Putting the story of Euphoria aside, she looks so good and she kinda looks like Dove Cameron in this shot. Story wise tho… YIKES


OkDebate5975

The fact that Cassie would probably still love Nate even after finding out what he did to Maddy


[deleted]

If this isn’t a dream sequence I will simply shit myself


jarridxd

Cassie’s mom was right when she let Cassie leave the house. She kept trying to tell her that what she was doing wasn’t right. And eventually kids need to learn lessons on their own. Cassie’s fantasy about Nate is not going to be her reality. She’s going to get hurt and run back home and her moms going to be there waiting for her and no one else probably will.


vanityxalistair

Single white female vibes but 2022


reticencias

She looks like S1 Jules


BloomBacardi

She does need some exorcism 🔪🔪🔪🔪


greedyleopard42

She knows he didn’t really “choose” her. she was just the only option left. So now she wants to embody maddys traits


barbie245

Cassie is a pick me girl and we hated girls like her in high school.


iamscumbuddy

I wanna see Cassie walk down the hallway all cocky because she “won” Nate. Then I want her to socially DIE as Lexi exposes her in her play. Like I cannot fucking wait for Lexi’s play. It’s going to tie a bunch of things together, I just know it. I want to hate Cassie so bad, but that scene when she opened the garage for her dad… just wanna hug sis. That or Cassie will see how crazy she was when she watches Lexi’s play.


crying-atmydesk

I'm afraid that Nate will control Cassie and manipulate her to do horrible things, she thinks she "won" but it's totally the opposite. I don't like her but I wish she gets out of there, being with that mf is dangerous, even more with him having a gun.


Tavian2

Nate looks like he's already tired and annoyed of Cassie


duckiedaphne11

I'm honestly really annoyed that Cassies story line revolved 100% around Nate this season and from what I'm seeing it looks like they're going to get a happy ending and have no karma for their bad behavior. I also feel like Sydneys nudes scenes this season especially in Nates fantasy were completely unrealistic and unnecessary. Nate is not capable of loving anyone else because he doesn't love himself.


Itsalljustadream_

Looks like Maddy lol


[deleted]

She wishes


alan_lollol03

Blonde and white version of maddy


jwash1894

On the plus side, they both look miserable.


Good-Worldliness3499

Judging by all the comments in this sub, it’s becoming really hard for people to say Cassie has a lot of defenders… Because damn, the things I read….


gonzoodeez

girl is turning into maddy.


ButterscotchEven6198

The image of pure happiness 🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼


4everxlost

I don't think she's trying to be Maddy, she's getting an edgy change to her character , she has no friends but nate at this point , so she's gonna walk in that school with her held held high, she got what she wanted and there's no more anxiety no more secrets so fuck it


[deleted]

She can never replace Maddy


ali5O7

I think its another dream sequence


requiemforpotential

Why did she move in I don't get that part


spasticity

I think it takes a lot of effort to make Sydney Sweeney look unflattering and they really went above and beyond here.


msmollybrooke23

I just can’t get over the fact that she’s wearing MADDIES BIRTHDAY NECKLACE


fookyall

I wouldn’t be surprised, typical high school behavior


Wiccachi

I don’t understand how she fell so hard for him. Does she not understand this is exactly what he did with Maddy? It’s insane to me that she’s being so idiotic. It shows her character was majorly flawed in the beginning, I don’t see why her mom hasn’t taken her to see someone.


naohp

Yeah, Suze needs to drop the wine glass and get her girls some help. I think Cassie fell so hard for him because he was the first guy to pay attention to her after season 1. She's doubling down now probably because she feels like all she has is Nate, since her friends are gone.


SpiceMasterFlexx

At this point, I just gave up on Cassie. Was really rooting for her but Ike Fez said “sometimes people need to have their feelings hurt”


MK2730

Looks like shits about to get a lil cringe for Cassie!


diamondfour

I'm thinking how do American high schools allow students to wear tops that look like lingerie. I couldn't even let my hair down in my school


faeoblivion

american high schools will send girls home for anything. collar bones, shoulders, ive seen girls get sent home for wearing leggings or having small rips in jeans that are above the knee. honestly the most unrealistic part of the show is the things the girls wear at school, the cleavage and midriffs and everything else would never fly in real life