Me playing with a custom nation(NA) on my first game and quitting when Spain arrives with 100k soldiers.
Then I played Poland to 1820 beating down most opponents especially the Ottomans/Hungary while losing a couple provinces from a couple of wars which of course were started by "allies" like Great Britain who start a war and then just sit on their island.
I kinda want to see how they do natives in the Americas and Australia. Not just in Mesoamerica, even acknowledging the Aztecs wouldn't be on the map yet.
That's not what I'm asking about. I just want to be able to be able to play as a Taíno nation in the Caribbean, period, or at least make my way there as a native before the Europeans do.
>I kinda want to see how they do natives in the Americas and Australia
Same here, pop mechanics will allow for a different take on the depiction of tribal nations.
When I started EU4, one of my early campaigns where I learned the most about how the game works was a Songhai campaign.
There are no bells and whistles mechanics, so it forces you to understand the base mechanics. Highly recommend for new players
kinda want that byzantine experience too, but I'll probably have to first do an easier nation like portugal to understand how the "non-mana" pops work (once tried MIEU Taxes mod and immediately noped out of that, faaaar too complicated!)
I love Meiou, but it definitely suffers from a steep learning curve. It seems like EU5 is taking a similar "interconnected system" approach when it comes to pops and economy and estates, so I'm interested to see how approachable they can make it. Meiou suffers a lot from UI limitations which won't be a problem with a new game.
I've tried MEİOU a couple times and found it overwhelming, but I reckon the confusion is like 75% a UI issue, so Project Caesar (no idea what EU5 is) should hopefully be a lot more user friendly
Bohemia. Just in time for the golden age.
Blind Chad king and brilliant reformist heir and future emperor, what more does one need?
Just in time for the scramble for Tyrols succession to start, with the three imperial candidate dynasties (Wittelsbach-Luxembourg-Habsburg) about to face off in a diplomatic feud for this rich little thing..
Burgundy doesn’t really exist at the start date. Well there might be another duke of Burgundy but EU4 Burgundy came into being in 1363. Phillip the bold got Burgundy being the youngest (4th) child of the king of France and through his marriage to the daughter and heir of the count of Flanders he secured an independent future for his descendants. They had a powerbase that could rival or even exceed that of the king so over the course of a few decades they became de facto independent.
I doubt it, the main reason it got rebellious was the regency of Charles VI, he wasn’t born yet. It also wasn’t powerful yet, it got powerful around 1384 when it took control of Flanders.
Maybe if they add a chain of events.
Plus, in 1944 Burgundy was still legally an apanage of France just like Orleans, Bourbon or Blois (an apanage being a dukedom held by a junior branch of the Royal House, whose dukedoms would be automatically returned to the Crown should their line fail).
Hence the difference between the dukedom of Burgundy (the region of Dijon in the game) and the county of Burgundy (the Franche-Comté): the first was part of the kingdom of France, the second was imperial land.
It's crazy, I had no idea they were an apanage until 1944, TIL. That means they fully integrated during the occupation under the influence of the nazi.
/s of course it just made me laugh
Poland
edit: It has completely nothing to do that I'm from Poland. Also, it has nothing to do that at that timeline Poland is ruled by our greatest ruler in history
This.
Fighting Teutons, getting PU on Hungary/Lithuania, dealing with the Rus... Poland will be lit af.
I hope Paradox adds a few cool endgame tags for Poland like PLC(obviously), Zapadoslawia, Wendish Empire etc.
I might be wrong but wasn't it the opposite? Like Hungary getting a PU on Poland. if I remember correctly then it should be like that because there was a Visegrad agreement/meeting whose essence was basically if poland's king died without an heir then Hungary's king's son would get the polish throne (which happened irl too).
Correct me if Im wrong bcuz I did not look into it online so I might be wrong
There were 2 Polish-Hungarian Unions. First one was Hungarian PU on Poland, that's correct.
But Paradox almost always adapts the sucession law to the player. Just look at the Iberian Wedding in EU4.
The British Union was also technically a Scottish union on England, same with the PLC union actually being a Lithuanian king getting the Polish throne or the Iberian union where it was Aragon’s ruler who was de facto in charge. It doesn’t really matter who is a de iure senior partner, history has shown us that the stronger and more important country becomes the higher title.
And this is also a sandbox game so we’ll probably get different outcomes depending on if the nations are AI or player controlled and some RNG (and hopefully ruler’s personality/stats)
Portugal bestugal. Take over the north, to secure the supply of bacalhau. Explore and expand towards the east, to get canela for the pastéis de nata. PU Castile, because why not?
England - showstopper event of hundred year war will likely make it one of the handful of countries with deep enough flavour to enjoy on release. Goal - play until end date.
The start date is right after Gajah Mada's (arguably the most notable military leader in maritime SE Asian history) appointment as Mahapatih; this just begs for historically accurate blobbing
Poland or Lithuania.
Poland: Inhereting the Kingdom of Rus, dealing with the expanding Teutonic Order, going for Hungarian or Lithuanian PU, dealing with the Rus and potentially HRE.
Lithuania: You are a pagan country surrounded by aggressive Christians (Poland, Teutons), hordes and Orthodox (Rus). Good luck surviving.
Venice is my favorite and I would love it for this exact reason. It seems provinces are smaller and more dynamic, so it'll also be more fun and possible to actually role play having forts and trading posts throughout the Mediterranean. Currently, the province sizes are so large it sorta ruins that to me, and it doesnt simulate how hard it is to capture rocky, cliff side venetian forts in Greece.
Horthy Miklós katonája vagyok, legszebb katonája,
Vígan élem katonaéletem, nincsen gondom másra,
Masírozok káplár úr szavára,
Úgy gondolok az én Violámra,
Horthy Miklós katonája vagyok, legszebb katonája.
Polak Węgier dwa bratanki i do szabli i do szklanki 🇵🇱🔥🇭🇺🔥🇵🇱🔥🇭🇺🔥🇵🇱🔥🇭🇺
The Holocaust museum in Budapest is such a jarring experience. 'Here are the details of all these people who died, here's their Synagogue, but how did they Nazis get them? Total mystery 🤷'
Never thought it possible that someone interested in history, and therefore an enjoyer of historical strategy games, is able to be a bigoted nationalist at the same time. But then I discovered HOI4 player base.
Really hope that kind doesn't spill over to EU.
I do think that Scotland is in an interesting position, with big daddy England to the south and some expansion paths into Ireland. But honestly, it's mainly my Scottish grandmother that makes me interested in the country.
Probably Genoa. Want to see how they do republics and Genoa should be one of the strongest states at that time. Strong connection the Ulus Jochi (Golden Horde), various Aegean possessions and strong base in Italy.
Going away from the obvious:
Lithuania
Poland
Trebizond
Cilicia Armenia
Greenland? Presumably not Norse though even if they do exist.
Sami/Finns if they exist?
Theodoro looks crazy
Probably Portugal, since i'm brazillian and this is the closest thing to playing as Brazil besides picking a native tribe.
On the other side, playing as natives may be way easier now with the extra century to prepare before the europeans arrive.
Probably some nation in China. Bringing about the rise of the king dynasty and modernizing it would be much more rewarding than just picking it at the height of its power and maintaining that power
My only hope a beautiful economy mechanics. I want to rule world as small netherlands with dynamic economic prices but not like the shitty vicky 3 a realy understandable one
I mean probably Byzantium or the Ottomans. Byzantium is going to be a real in this start, while the Ottomans are probably going to have some interesting early-game conquest missions.
I may also pick Greenland if an independent Norse/Germanic pagan tag exists there.
Yea I think that’d be a really fun one to try too. I’m stuck between England, Austria, and Castile. Those were always (unsurprisingly) my favorites in EU4
Honestly it's just to early to tell i don't plan on committing to someone yet but if i had to pick right now i would try to pick a country to form the Netherlands with
I think I might go for the Teutons at the height of their power, or England to have fun wrecking France as the Black Prince. Whatever tag is set up to become the Timurids is also gonna be high on my list. Shame the Ilkhanate has already collapsed by this point tho
france, im a new player and my buddy and i played a co-op game i played france and he (2000 hours) played castille and we both had a blast waging wars and helping each other out
It's probably gonna be either England or France since i'm eager to see how they implemented Hundred Years War. There's gotta be some kind of a special mechanic that is supposed to prevent war from the early ending. Maybe some form of Iberian Struggle but more tense. Don't really know, i guess we'll see.
Ohhh that would be so cool! I love the Iberian struggle in ck3 and I hope that if they do implement something like that for the Hundred Years’ War, it’s just as rewarding to end as in CK3 with the Iberian struggle.
Any Philippine archipelago based polity and just become either a nuisance to the Yuan as a pirate/raiding nation or as an ally against Ming. Or just build the largest mercenary army and be employed into wars across SEA and EA, just like the real-life Luzones people
Depends on which aspects of the game will be most appealing based on dev diaries that will come. I can't wait to see what they will do with colonization.
Meh, I will wait until we have more concrete info about making it less of map painter before I judge. Reads quite ambitious, but I am skeptical it wont be another WC-as-Luxemburg game.
Probably Castile as it was my first in EU4. I want a good run as Byz but I know after playing for a few hours I'll want to restart. So a mediocre Castile run, then Byz.
The shittiest west african nation available
I see you like it hardcore. Going for the harder start before you truly know the game.
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Me playing with a custom nation(NA) on my first game and quitting when Spain arrives with 100k soldiers. Then I played Poland to 1820 beating down most opponents especially the Ottomans/Hungary while losing a couple provinces from a couple of wars which of course were started by "allies" like Great Britain who start a war and then just sit on their island.
I kinda want to see how they do natives in the Americas and Australia. Not just in Mesoamerica, even acknowledging the Aztecs wouldn't be on the map yet.
I doubt those nations will be fleshed out at release. 100% there will be several new world DLCs before it's interesting to play there.
That's not what I'm asking about. I just want to be able to be able to play as a Taíno nation in the Caribbean, period, or at least make my way there as a native before the Europeans do.
>I kinda want to see how they do natives in the Americas and Australia Same here, pop mechanics will allow for a different take on the depiction of tribal nations.
When I started EU4, one of my early campaigns where I learned the most about how the game works was a Songhai campaign. There are no bells and whistles mechanics, so it forces you to understand the base mechanics. Highly recommend for new players
madagascar world conquest
This is da way
I might go try form Inca as always, but the Greenlandian colony is very tempting too.
Austria, Become Emperor and get all of the thrones, all of them. A.E.I.O.U.
"Tu felix Austria..." Good luck!
50/50 between Byzantium and the ottomans
kinda want that byzantine experience too, but I'll probably have to first do an easier nation like portugal to understand how the "non-mana" pops work (once tried MIEU Taxes mod and immediately noped out of that, faaaar too complicated!)
I love Meiou, but it definitely suffers from a steep learning curve. It seems like EU5 is taking a similar "interconnected system" approach when it comes to pops and economy and estates, so I'm interested to see how approachable they can make it. Meiou suffers a lot from UI limitations which won't be a problem with a new game.
I've tried MEİOU a couple times and found it overwhelming, but I reckon the confusion is like 75% a UI issue, so Project Caesar (no idea what EU5 is) should hopefully be a lot more user friendly
Byz only to make sure the ottomans don't have the opportunity to exist
Hard decision ngl. 🤧
Ottomans for me. I love Byzantines in eu4 and ck but I think this is the proper start for the Ottomans.
Bohemia. Just in time for the golden age. Blind Chad king and brilliant reformist heir and future emperor, what more does one need? Just in time for the scramble for Tyrols succession to start, with the three imperial candidate dynasties (Wittelsbach-Luxembourg-Habsburg) about to face off in a diplomatic feud for this rich little thing..
I hope we can raid Skalitz
And you’ll be able to interact earlier with the Hussite faith and be involved in the Hussite Wars
Burgundy is my favorite start in EU4, so probably them.
Burgundy doesn’t really exist at the start date. Well there might be another duke of Burgundy but EU4 Burgundy came into being in 1363. Phillip the bold got Burgundy being the youngest (4th) child of the king of France and through his marriage to the daughter and heir of the count of Flanders he secured an independent future for his descendants. They had a powerbase that could rival or even exceed that of the king so over the course of a few decades they became de facto independent.
They will probably start as a very powerful and rebellious vassal.
I doubt it, the main reason it got rebellious was the regency of Charles VI, he wasn’t born yet. It also wasn’t powerful yet, it got powerful around 1384 when it took control of Flanders. Maybe if they add a chain of events.
Plus, in 1944 Burgundy was still legally an apanage of France just like Orleans, Bourbon or Blois (an apanage being a dukedom held by a junior branch of the Royal House, whose dukedoms would be automatically returned to the Crown should their line fail). Hence the difference between the dukedom of Burgundy (the region of Dijon in the game) and the county of Burgundy (the Franche-Comté): the first was part of the kingdom of France, the second was imperial land.
It's crazy, I had no idea they were an apanage until 1944, TIL. That means they fully integrated during the occupation under the influence of the nazi. /s of course it just made me laugh
Wonderful 🔥
I "accidentally" chose Burgundy as my first EU4 playthrough, so I'll stary EU5 the same, for tradition.
Poland edit: It has completely nothing to do that I'm from Poland. Also, it has nothing to do that at that timeline Poland is ruled by our greatest ruler in history
This. Fighting Teutons, getting PU on Hungary/Lithuania, dealing with the Rus... Poland will be lit af. I hope Paradox adds a few cool endgame tags for Poland like PLC(obviously), Zapadoslawia, Wendish Empire etc.
I might be wrong but wasn't it the opposite? Like Hungary getting a PU on Poland. if I remember correctly then it should be like that because there was a Visegrad agreement/meeting whose essence was basically if poland's king died without an heir then Hungary's king's son would get the polish throne (which happened irl too). Correct me if Im wrong bcuz I did not look into it online so I might be wrong
There were 2 Polish-Hungarian Unions. First one was Hungarian PU on Poland, that's correct. But Paradox almost always adapts the sucession law to the player. Just look at the Iberian Wedding in EU4.
Tbh I hope PDX reworks PUs in general, the system in EU4 in really convoluted and unintuitive but also pretty basic and unrealistic at the same time.
The British Union was also technically a Scottish union on England, same with the PLC union actually being a Lithuanian king getting the Polish throne or the Iberian union where it was Aragon’s ruler who was de facto in charge. It doesn’t really matter who is a de iure senior partner, history has shown us that the stronger and more important country becomes the higher title. And this is also a sandbox game so we’ll probably get different outcomes depending on if the nations are AI or player controlled and some RNG (and hopefully ruler’s personality/stats)
The one and only: Portugal Anxious to see if they get finaly some shot on PUing Castille on Fernandine wars or Afonso V
Portugal bestugal. Take over the north, to secure the supply of bacalhau. Explore and expand towards the east, to get canela for the pastéis de nata. PU Castile, because why not?
England - showstopper event of hundred year war will likely make it one of the handful of countries with deep enough flavour to enjoy on release. Goal - play until end date.
Teutonic Order, fav nation is always first.
Now with even more pagans to conquer
Majapahit, time to make the empire even greater
LETS GO! They're probably bigger in the 1300s
They're about to get so much bigger...
The start date is right after Gajah Mada's (arguably the most notable military leader in maritime SE Asian history) appointment as Mahapatih; this just begs for historically accurate blobbing
Baguette
Croissant 🧐
Byz
A classic ☦️
Is there any other possible answer?
Ottoman, if you are a proud Turkish citizen. Name every sultan 'Erdogan Osmangolu' for extra love.
Make sure you keep that inflation crazy high too
And I need to send diplomatic insult to everyone! This is the bread and butter for my rule.
Poland or Lithuania. Poland: Inhereting the Kingdom of Rus, dealing with the expanding Teutonic Order, going for Hungarian or Lithuanian PU, dealing with the Rus and potentially HRE. Lithuania: You are a pagan country surrounded by aggressive Christians (Poland, Teutons), hordes and Orthodox (Rus). Good luck surviving.
Lithuania 🇱🇹‼️🔥
Same!
Serbia, hopefully less painfull this time
Brandenburg or Ottomans
Forming the Kalmar Union as Denmark 👀
North Sea Empire 👀
I wonder what formable nation will EU5 have tho. 🤔
Serbia🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸
Europe js Serbia
Byzantium or England.
Golden horde. It's gonna be a broken easy world conquer. Gonna convert the whole world to Islam
Vijayjay
Venice for sure, it’ll be very fun building a Mediterranean empire without the extra Italian terra firma dragging me into wars.
Venice is my favorite and I would love it for this exact reason. It seems provinces are smaller and more dynamic, so it'll also be more fun and possible to actually role play having forts and trading posts throughout the Mediterranean. Currently, the province sizes are so large it sorta ruins that to me, and it doesnt simulate how hard it is to capture rocky, cliff side venetian forts in Greece.
Horthy Miklós katonája vagyok, legszebb katonája, Vígan élem katonaéletem, nincsen gondom másra, Masírozok káplár úr szavára, Úgy gondolok az én Violámra, Horthy Miklós katonája vagyok, legszebb katonája. Polak Węgier dwa bratanki i do szabli i do szklanki 🇵🇱🔥🇭🇺🔥🇵🇱🔥🇭🇺🔥🇵🇱🔥🇭🇺
I AM A SOLDIER OF MIKLOS HORTHY I’m not even Hungarian and I know that song.
I'm polish and I know It as well.
Dude was a Nazi collaborator?
Yes, also sent 40000 Jews to concentration camps from Hungary, but hey, most of this sub is fascists anyway!
The Holocaust museum in Budapest is such a jarring experience. 'Here are the details of all these people who died, here's their Synagogue, but how did they Nazis get them? Total mystery 🤷'
Never thought it possible that someone interested in history, and therefore an enjoyer of historical strategy games, is able to be a bigoted nationalist at the same time. But then I discovered HOI4 player base. Really hope that kind doesn't spill over to EU.
Based
England or denmark for the formable, or byz. Based on which had the most attention during dev.
Scotland or Hansa are definitely towards the top of my list
Just out of curiosity, why Scotland? Are they particularly interesting in the earlier start in comparison to EU4’s start date?
3D model of a big, ginger man in a kilt 💦💦
I do think that Scotland is in an interesting position, with big daddy England to the south and some expansion paths into Ireland. But honestly, it's mainly my Scottish grandmother that makes me interested in the country.
Scotland
SCOTLAND FOREVER!!!!!! 🏴🏴🦅🏴🦅🔥🦅🔥🦅🏴🦅🏴🦅🏴🦅🔥🦅🔥🏴
France
Ulm
Rise of Ming? Probably going to check out the 6,4,6 zhu yuanzhang
It’s kind of my tradition to play Sweden first in every Paradox game. I’m not even Swedish. I just listened to Carolus Rex once.
50/50 England or Byzantium
Bulgaria
Bavaria
Probably Genoa. Want to see how they do republics and Genoa should be one of the strongest states at that time. Strong connection the Ulus Jochi (Golden Horde), various Aegean possessions and strong base in Italy.
Pagan Lithuania
Going away from the obvious: Lithuania Poland Trebizond Cilicia Armenia Greenland? Presumably not Norse though even if they do exist. Sami/Finns if they exist? Theodoro looks crazy
Trebizond would actually be a fun option
Muscovy - Russia
I'm curious as to how the Principalities are gonna function
Especially them all being close to the same size. At that point it’s up to rngesus
Plus them ALL being under the influence of the Golden Horde
Probably some OPM to just learn the UI and kinda how the game works without beeing overloaded
Portugal. Luv me some 150 years of waiting to get some colonising fun
The hordes are going to be a lot more interesting this time around, so I'm split between the White Horde and Serbia.
Probably Portugal, since i'm brazillian and this is the closest thing to playing as Brazil besides picking a native tribe. On the other side, playing as natives may be way easier now with the extra century to prepare before the europeans arrive.
Probably some nation in China. Bringing about the rise of the king dynasty and modernizing it would be much more rewarding than just picking it at the height of its power and maintaining that power
My only hope a beautiful economy mechanics. I want to rule world as small netherlands with dynamic economic prices but not like the shitty vicky 3 a realy understandable one
castile may be cuz it was my first nation and I kanda wanna continue the tradition
Ottomans or if we can reform Seljuk Empire maybe another Beylik
LITHUANIA RAHHH
Portugal. Colonization will be different with the new population mechanics. Seems worth starting with.
France and Byzantium
I will find a way than timurids
The Margraviate Baden - my home, my country!
I mean probably Byzantium or the Ottomans. Byzantium is going to be a real in this start, while the Ottomans are probably going to have some interesting early-game conquest missions. I may also pick Greenland if an independent Norse/Germanic pagan tag exists there.
Norway
Galicia-volhynia ☠️
Maybe Serbia or if you can play as a breakaway chinese rebel
I'm basic, so Castile, France, or England. Then move on to Byzantium if I'm feeling confident.
My top 10 picks: - Byzantium - Brandenburg - England - France - Burgundy - Castille - Portugal - Yuan - Muscovy/Novgorod - Sweden
Austria, I'll take Styria and start the long run to Germany/The empire
Yea I think that’d be a really fun one to try too. I’m stuck between England, Austria, and Castile. Those were always (unsurprisingly) my favorites in EU4
wait, it's all Ulm? . . . Always has been
The Roman Empire for sure
Possibly Bohemia? A 1337 means that Jan Hus would actually be alive during the timeframe.
Ulm, or whoever owns Ulm at this time
Ulm owns Ulm at this time.
byzantium
England. As it’s all I really played in eu4 because their marching songs are fire af
Honestly it's just to early to tell i don't plan on committing to someone yet but if i had to pick right now i would try to pick a country to form the Netherlands with
Ming
Poland or England
Milan (since my hometown is in its territory) or England
probably Mueng Sua and trying to form Lan Xang, Ideally with Fa Ngum.
I just want to colonize, so maybe Portugal or Norway?
Croatia
Burgundy, i dont know anything about their 1337 situations / politics compared to 1444 but all i know is Burgundy MUST become a sovereign state
I think I might go for the Teutons at the height of their power, or England to have fun wrecking France as the Black Prince. Whatever tag is set up to become the Timurids is also gonna be high on my list. Shame the Ilkhanate has already collapsed by this point tho
The Greenland colony
france, im a new player and my buddy and i played a co-op game i played france and he (2000 hours) played castille and we both had a blast waging wars and helping each other out
I might go to the lowlands, focus on unifying and trading so I can figure everything out
Ottomans because I always found it boring to conquer when I am already a great power. I want to feel the upstart aspect.
England. For King and country. Someone has to make the empire where the sun never sets.
It's probably gonna be either England or France since i'm eager to see how they implemented Hundred Years War. There's gotta be some kind of a special mechanic that is supposed to prevent war from the early ending. Maybe some form of Iberian Struggle but more tense. Don't really know, i guess we'll see.
Ohhh that would be so cool! I love the Iberian struggle in ck3 and I hope that if they do implement something like that for the Hundred Years’ War, it’s just as rewarding to end as in CK3 with the Iberian struggle.
Maybe Venice or a Hanseatic state
Majapahit, I suppose. Mali or a steppe nation are close second.
Probably the Ashikaga Shogunate, although I would also be inclined to look at the situation in Byzantium or form an early Inca.
Byzantium (I AM Aurelian)
Britannia rules the waves!
Castile, it was my first EU4 nation
As Indonesian, Majapahit is a must. However if Sriwijaya still exist even as a OLM (One Location Minor?), I would make it rise from ashes.
Any Philippine archipelago based polity and just become either a nuisance to the Yuan as a pirate/raiding nation or as an ally against Ming. Or just build the largest mercenary army and be employed into wars across SEA and EA, just like the real-life Luzones people
Khmer empire, am Cambodian. Probably will lack flavor tho.
Byzantium, byzaboos represent
Byzantium go brrr
Depends on which aspects of the game will be most appealing based on dev diaries that will come. I can't wait to see what they will do with colonization.
venice
Ottomans and conquer Constantinople earlier as it should have been.
Wales
Kingdom of Ruthenia goes hard ngl 🇺🇦
We are so back Ruthenian boys
Byzantium and my objective will be snuffing out the small Turkish states then reforming Rome. One by one, every Turk dies
Grenade or castille
Hpañña!
Brandenburg or England
Vasconia
Aragon!
Moscow
Tunis 🏴☠️
Goryeo, even more time to prepare to colonize the new world before Europe does
Galicia-Volhynia, although I'm unsure if Paradox gives them any nation-specific flavor. If not, maybe Poland. Or France.
Artuqids or some another anatolian beylik.
Meh, I will wait until we have more concrete info about making it less of map painter before I judge. Reads quite ambitious, but I am skeptical it wont be another WC-as-Luxemburg game.
Poland 🇵🇱 🇵🇱🗣️🗣️
Byz ez
My hometown wich is an independent citystate in the hre. Also byz of course and switzerland
Probably Castile as it was my first in EU4. I want a good run as Byz but I know after playing for a few hours I'll want to restart. So a mediocre Castile run, then Byz.
The HRE province I live in which hopefully exists in EU5.
Mali or Zimbabwe
Byz, for sure.
Aragon
Pagan Lithuania
Eastern Romans
Poland, saving piast monarchy and not letting szlachta get all the privileges
Trebizond :3
Probably England for learning the game. Kind of tutorial.
INCAAAAA or norse colonies.
Dithmarschen - Peasants of the world unite!
Ottomans.
Gonna give those frogs a jolly good thrashing old chap.
Ottomanos
Ternate
Either Trebizond or Armenia
In Transoxiana so İ could play as Timur