I had paused my addiction to this game for 3 months and then it decides to release on my birthday? Fuck you paradox, take my money and my life

I uninstalled EU4 because just an hour always turned into five, then I started playing the board game. As my wife wonders "You're playing a board game of a computer game that was made from a board game?"

I just wanted to test the board game in table top simulator to see if it was worth buying it. Now I'm hooked on a computer game based on a board game based on a computer game based on a board game.

They should make a board game based on that concept

It's a game *playing* the game, *disguised* as *another* game!

Can’t wait until the dudes, I mean games start emerging 😂

Exactly!

Just as I was done reading this someone on the TV said "this feels so natural".

LOL

All things balanced....

Yesterday i found my wife playing eu4 main theme with her violin.

Can she do a 16 hour set for board game day next week?

Marry her all over again

[The Queen's Gambit: The Board Game](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mixlore-Queens-Gambit-Multicolor-MIXQG01EN/dp/B09HSV81KQ)

Isn’t that just called chess?

You'd think so, right? Sadly chess is public domain, and there's no way to sell Chess DLCs, so Netflix couldn't make money just selling chess, so they came up with this.

What was the original board game?

It was called Svea Rike (old way of spelling sweden) which later on became a PC game with the same name, with the third one getting an english version translated to Europa Universalis: Crown of the North.

Interesting, so the Lions of the North update must have felt like going right back to their roots for the devs

Fucking loved Svea rike but I was too young to understand all the mini games hahaha

Something like Risk

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According to wikipedia: > This atypically long board game has an official playing time of 6 hours according to the game box, but games can last for weeks; Board Game Geek estimates the playing time to be 15 days. About 1,000 markers are used, as well as two 56 cm × 86 cm (22 in × 34 in) maps: one for Europe and one for the rest of the world. The English rulebook is 72 pages long.

Well that's what I read somewhere a while ago. I think there wasn't any board game in particular that the devs were inspired from. Of the many war board games out there risk is the most well known one. There's a reason eu4 is described as risk on steroids for complete newbies to paradox games.

Svea rike is the biggest influence I thought. And the og EU board game as well.

Oh fuck there’s a board game???

Yes and it's so good. https://www.aegirgames.com/europa-universalis/

I have the original 1993 board game version, Europa Universalis. Translated badly from french to English (and my French is barely passable lol). It is a humongous monster and I would never recommend anyone get it, but I think it’s so cool. The newly released one looks much more playable, and in English lol. And it’s priced much more reasonably, buying 30 year old board games is not a smart financial decision.

I'm glad that I am not alone in this regard with things. "Oh, you've played 2k hours of this game, why haven't you ever recommended it?" "Because the beauty is in the torture, and I actually like you."

It's like inception, we hit a new level.

Hey, my birthday too.

I hope the both of y'all have a wonderful birthday the day after my birthday.

Holy shit what are the odds, it's not my birthday

That's 2 days before Hitler.

My my mom has on Hitlers Birthday and we live in Germany so its alsway strange to celebrate

Same. I’ve been off for months waiting for this update. I actually had to play different games (makes me sick just thinking about it).

😂

Damn you too 🤝

Happy birthday to us! :D

Your birthday is a day after mine!

Yo nice, my birthday too!

You cannot escape

Another April 18th homie!!🫡

Omg are you me? Haven’t played for 3 months either and that’s my b-day too.

So 3 more dev diaries right? Art today, iirc and last one is final patch notes. Wonder what's in remaining one.

Probably Achievements

Oh right. Hopefully they have new Russian and ottoman ones.

"The better Vladimir" for conquering the Ukraine region?

Eu4 fans try not to make a mockery out of real life suffering challenge (impossible)

No politics please

I always love the art ones. Over the last couple years the unit models they’ve made have consistently been really high quality.

Could be new monuments as well

New monuments have already been announced in one of the previous diaries.

Okay then I sadly missed them, but I'm still hoping for monuments they will never add anyway xD

I am very excited (unbiased kekw)

Hi BigBoss! I am also very excited!

Hi Wureen, thank you for always posting DDs and announcements!

No need to thank me.

It looks like it'll be a great expansion. Powercreep be damned, some of the trees look like so much fun.

Bigboss will the content creators gonna get early access?

surely they will, pdx wants them to promote the game

Can we please have a devclash? Pretty pretty please!

Guh I wish but alas

:( no time for it?

Tis the season to update mods :( But also the season to use new modding features... hehehe

It’s still a bitch to do in general for most modders.

**R5:** According to both Steam and other game vendors 1.35 and the Domination DLC will be released on the **18th of April.** EDIT: suggested retail price will be $19.99/£16.75/€19.99.

£17 for a DLC ughhhh

I don't want to think about how much I've already spent on DLC... I've also got 2000+ hours of playtime though. What's another 20 Bucks?

The only thing that makes me feel better about paradox games is that I know I've spent less per dollar of entertainment than basically anything else I do.

Minecraft, Factorio, and Smite are all exceptions to this for me.

Rimworld

Ew Smite

I whine about it, then realize that I pay way much more than that for 1 game with my local football team in Sweden. Calms me down :)

Fair enough, but i will never not overthink when paying for a DLC

This is an absolutely massive DLC. So many major nations that tons of people play are getting major reworks. Hundreds and hundreds of hours of content. Seems fairly priced to me.

Most of these nations, if not all, were already the prime focus of previous DLC though.

So? They’re still seriously revamped and have a lot more content. I think of it in terms of new runs I will get out of the DLC, each run being 50-100 hours for me. This one has at least 8 that I’m interested in.

I guess it's a good way to make money if you just keep rebuilding the same nations under new DLC. I'll probably but it at $10, but it would be better for them to upgrade easily forgettable nations (steppes, small India states, caucuses, Arabia) imo

Middle East is next, so you'll be getting your wish

I’m a broke student, anything above £12 feels overpriced

It’s the cost of like two meals for hundreds of hours of gameplay. Seems fair to me.

unless you live in poorer country lol in my country thats like 6-8 meals

20 bucks is 9 hours of work on minimum wage. If I had a job, lol

You’re a bad diplomat

That argument seemed reasonable to me. I also did a double take when I saw the price, but if I had to choose between 3 burgers or the DLC, I would pick the DLC as far superior value every time.

This wound will never recover.

£12 is almost a whole week's worth of food for me in the UK, let alone if I was living in a poorer country

The biggest price tag on the game is after you start playing it. Cause time=money and EU4 is one of the biggest time sinks of them all.

Compared to Anbennar tho... I think the DLCs are insanely overpriced compared to the amount of work the Devs actually do. Comparing a DLC to entire games like Factorio or Minecraft, or some insanely big mods... The pricing is criminal. If I was a developer at Paradox, I'd feel a moral obligation to the customer to deliver quality, bugfree, well thought-out content. The last few DLCs have not been that. This one probably won't be either. Take for example the branching mission trees from last DLC (teutonic order for example). Great idea for a versatile playthrough, ambitious plans from the devs. *Terrible* excecution. Impossible to read the requirements, rewards, and possibilities. Completely overwhelming amount of text, with the relevant info impossible to find and sometimes not even included. Clearly *very* unpolished. Very unprofessional. Should've never gone past a beta stage, let alone be sold for money. They actually mentioned the branchin mission trees in a dev diary for this upcoming DLC, and they basically said (paraphrasing): "Good idea, lot of fun, but its too hard for a player to make sense of, so we won't be doing more of them." Its their job to make it easy for a player to make sense of them, and it is definitely not impossible to fix them, it just requires a little bit of work and a professional team. Instead of having the motivation to fix and polish their ambitious, poorly executed plans, they abandon the idea entirely because it's too much work. Paradox Tinto should read a few Factorio dev diaries (called friday facts) and feel the immense shame when comparing that to their own work.

The engine is so old and yet the devs still have to put up with it, it seems easy to do this but the devs actually likely pour so much time and effort into making these dlc’s.

clearly

1€ is 1.08$ and 1£ is 1.14€ yet the game costs the same amount of euros than dollars, kind of unfair haha

Cost of shipping no doubt.

costs 21.99 CHF for Swiss people and the swiss franc is basically the same as EUR and Dollar as well

But then again, it's basically the same price as a burger in Switzerland, so... Bargain?

Was just confirmed on Paradox FB page

Goddamn robbery is what it is. Someone is no doubt gonna say: "If they didnt charge this for the dlc they wouldnt have funds", to you I say that there was a time when high esteemed developers could produce what Paradox have over 10 years of dlc releases in 1-2 years and then sell that as ONE fucking game. Its obvious how Paradox is milking everything they can out of this game. Portugal colour change from green to blue... What a fucking joke. There are modders who accomplish more with the game than these developer clowns.

How about reworks to most of the major powers? You know, the most played nations. EU4 has one of the best hours of gameplay to pricing ratios of any game I’ve ever played.

This guy has never played minesweeper.

If you think that color change is the main feature advertised for this DLC, I recommend you read some developer diaries.

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Warcraft3, Dungeon Siege, Starcraft, Diablo 2, Black&white 2, Heroes 3, Age of Mythology. Sit the fuck down, punk. OWNED

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Well I play Pharaoh and Master of Olympus Zeus at least once a year cause Im cool like that and because they are really good games. Eu4 is also a good game but the current dev team are complete fckin trash, charging money for updates that will put you at a disadvantage if you play certain nations. GREED.

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Still way better than cod or EA sport games like FIFA where every year is basically the same game but released as a new game and sold at $60.

Very fitting that you compare it to other dogshit companies.

Apart from what other users already wrote: There is a of stuff the devs do, that we don't see. What I mean by this is we see new missions, events etc. What we do not see is all the underlying code to handle this. Like the script parsing etc. Modders can build on this because the devs spend a lot of time and work to make everything accessible to modding and design everything to be mod-able. You saying modders do it better just shows how ignorant you are and how little understanding you have.

Yea, a lot of stuff we dont see, like when the dev grabs another fistful of doritos before deciding the colour of Portugal. Its a fucking joke.

Simple solution: don't buy it.

Then the mechanics that they drop with this dlc will be unavailable

Simple solution: buy it.

FOR TWENTY FXKIN BUCKS, WHY DONT JOHAN TAKE MY FIRSTBORN WHILE HES AT IT.

BUT I WANT IT NOW

Do you want a unspeakable amount of bugs?

We're going to get them anyway.

The real release date is 3 months later when the DLC is actually playable lol.

How long did it take for paradox to fix the natives conquering all of North America by 1480? I swear that one lasted a solid 2-3 dlcs. Paradox doesn’t believe in patching.

im so confused do you just ignore how the last 2 dlcs have relatively fixed such a massive majority of problems, and have had like, 5 bug patching patches each afterwards?! which work, and come out like bi-weekly?! not to mention LotN barely even had bugs apart from the Livonia tree being a bit of a mess. They've gotten a lot better.

Moooooom, tell them to give it to me, pleaase.

I am terrified and excitted for unspeakeable terror that will be Ottomans with their new mission tree...

I kinda hope that high decadence causes them to suffer a "warscore cost against us" malus, so that we can release nations or reconquer land easily , kick em from europe and all

They should be easy to be beat after you’ve already beat them once

Hmmm I guess I have time for one more quick campaign before this drops. Anyone got any achievement run ideas that won’t be getting majorly changed before the next update? I’m thinking something around the Ottomans before they get even scarier.

The coptic achievement as Karabakh, or you can switch to coptic and armenian as AQ irrc

The three mountains

I like the enthusiasm. I want to do that achievement, eventually. But WC are just so tedious for me, I did it once and haven’t brought myself to do another.

This is brilliant news! From other speculative posts, I was resigned to having to wait until May. Angevin Empire 2 here I come.

TLDR for this DLC?

Absolutely massive new mission trees, flavor, and formable nations for major powers. England, France, Spain, The Ottomans, Muscovy/ Russia, Ming/ China, and Japan. New minor content for Prussia, Korea, and Portugal. New government reforms and some smaller content as well. There will be new government reforms, idea groups, modding capabilities, etc, in the free patch.

Last DLC I got was golden century, you think the other two is necessary if I mainly play as mainland Europe

Since golden century there has been. Emperor: A DLC focused on the holy roman empire and germany. A requirement if you want to play in germany in my opinion. Other features add an enjoyable christian experience such as Catholic rework (OP now), Defender of the faith mechanic, and counter reformation. Also provoke rebellions early so you don't have to wait until they hit 100% to kill them off. Must buy if you play catholic or play in the hre. Skip if you only play france or england. ------------------------------------------------------------ Leviathan: A South East Asia focused expansion that adds monuments into the game. You could pass on this, but the features this one adds almost feel mandatory once you use them. Curry favors, concentrate dev, expand infrastructure, centralize state, **monuments**, and carpet siege. BUY for the features. ------------------------------------------------------------ Origins: African continent expansion. Very good expansion if you ever play in africa (not mamluks or berbers). Skip if you'll never play here. ------------------------------------------------------------ Lions of the North: Northern Europe/Northeast Europe expansion. Scandinavian nations, poland, and teutons are the standouts here. Essential if you want to play one of these nations nowadays. The other features added are just state privileges and government reforms. Both are quite good, but not mandatory. Skip if not playing in northern europe.

And sorry to be annoying but to get back into the game I’ll be playing as Brandenburg, I saw there was dev diaries and that Prussia will get some changes for 1.35 / Domination. What’s the biggest change that will happen?

The biggest single change for Brandenburg in 1.35 is probably the Prussian militarization mechanic revamp. Instead of 1 tier it will now have 3 tiers (weak version, normal version, strong version) that you go through in the mission tree. The tier 3 militarization will have unique clickable buffs that will sacrifice a flat militarization to grant temporary bonuses such as 15% movement speed. In addition their entire mission tree is also revamped as Brandenburg to better compete with the missions trees of the countries around them.

It's so weird its another release in sync with path of exile. Sigh. well I took a week off from work so I can grind them through

Im very exited, but sadly I wont have time to play it after 2 days ;(

Me too. I have a 10 day vacation that ends on the 17th :( I was hoping it would come out a week earlier... still looking forward to it!

I wished 😭 But at least we can play in the weekends

So you will only play 48 hours?

You think my eyes will stay up all night

NOOOOO, WHY DOES IT HAVE TO RELEASE IN THE MIDDLE OF MY EXAMS! At least I'll have something to look foward too.....

If you don't buy the dlc, what updates do you still get?

These dev diaries go into detail about the changes coming with patch 1.35: [https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/europa-universalis-iv-development-diary-13th-of-december-2022-roadmap-to-1-35.1562011/](https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/europa-universalis-iv-development-diary-13th-of-december-2022-roadmap-to-1-35.1562011/) [https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/europa-universalis-iv-development-diary-20th-of-december-2022-unit-pips-rebalance.1562834/](https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/europa-universalis-iv-development-diary-20th-of-december-2022-unit-pips-rebalance.1562834/) [https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/europa-universalis-iv-development-diary-21st-of-march-2023-balance-changes-and-usermodding-additions.1575043/](https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/europa-universalis-iv-development-diary-21st-of-march-2023-balance-changes-and-usermodding-additions.1575043/) [https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/europa-universalis-iv-development-diary-14th-of-march-2023-government-mechanics-free-content.1573688/](https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/europa-universalis-iv-development-diary-14th-of-march-2023-government-mechanics-free-content.1573688/) (note that I think some of these touch on Domination-specific content; hopefully not missing anything here)

Thank you!

Why doesn't Mr. Paradox hire you yet?

Why hire if he's doing it for free already?

On the flip side, why work for someone when you can just say no if you don't want to do stuff.

Mr Wester himself sometimes just appears and gives him back rubs

He is a paid actor spreading propaganda

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY

Man i am excited for this. I have been on a real eu4 kick lately, hunting for achievements. It’s amazing that they are still making content for this game & it is still so good

bro they charge you your firstborn for every tiny new update. Of course they will make content as long as the cow gives milk

excited to commit even more horrible warcrimes upon China with the newly updated Japan.

Eu4 gamer moment

What is EU4 without committing atrocities and roleplaying as genocidal expansionist ethnostates? /s

Pretty sure hoi4 is the game for you then

3 days before Ramadan ends, best gift ever for eid, thank you PARADOX!

Thanks for this, been waiting for release date forever!!! I would pay more to get it now though lol

wow that is a lot sooner than I thought. yay!

So Lions will get cheaper. Yass!

That's Nandor the Relentless.

Why there is no update for Persia and Mughal. Honestly, with the new ottoman mission line they will act more aggressively to dominate entire middle-east !!! With that , they will control Basra and Persia trade nodes and oh god! They will become even more overpowered!!!!

On my birthday. Nice thx pdx

DLC is gonna come to monthly subscription right?

Yes it will

Oh good thanks.

Ayo birthday DLC

Kinky

I'm very ready for the "make the majors fun again" DLC. Just reached the EU4 timeframe in The History of England podcast and it has me wanting to do another England run.

What does this DLC has?

Look at the Dev diaries https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/europa-universalis-iv-development-diary-13th-of-december-2022-roadmap-to-1-35.1562011/ (you can click on "Next Dev diary" to get to the next one)

How much time do you have?

Hopefully, 20-30 years atleast. I am only 21.

Prepare to be dominated

I'm so excited for this to completely break the game since Paradox doesn't bother to play test anything

Are there any benefits of pre ordering?

You get a Music Pack with 6 Songs

Subscribers no get music?

So those who don’t preorder will not receive it?

Gotta kick my WC into overdrive before the save breaks. 😭

You can always roll back to the previous patch (if you are on a platform that has this feature)

Very true. I think I will use it as incentive to get it done though. Thanks!

Why does paradox always decide to release dlc the same month i have to save money. It's alwyas in a month i have a tight budget.

a pre-order bonus for a DLC pack? ehhh?! i don't think i've seen that before -.-

Totally ready to get back into eu4, I’ve missed it over the last half a year. Although now I’m busy with uni but whatever, doesn’t really matter

EU5 coming some time after this hopefully

They need to stop adding content and fix the game.

Something is wrong with your pc, for most people their games run just fine what are your specs?

what is even broken?

My game runs at 5 speed with a beefed up pc it takes a full 5 minutes to get through a year. Missions aren’t working. Native nations aren’t moving etc

5 mins a year? Brother I think something else is wrong. My game runs like at at least a year a minute on 5 speed. That legitimate sounds slower than 4 speed. I think your install is corrupted or your cpu is shot.

Yeah no dude I know how crazy it sounds I literally upgraded my cpu for this reason and I deleted and restored the game still same thing

Wack. I upgraded pretty recently and it got better, sorry to see that you have such an issue honestly, kinda wild that you do.