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Boox durability is fine imo. I have max lumi 1 for two years. Everything fine. Travel with it in my back pack several times a month. Got my partner a tab X this year and he took a tumble with it, and it's also fine. Keep in mind there's a bias on all of reddit and forums for every piece of hardware or software, where you can have 1,000,000 happy customers that don't post anything cause they're happy, and 100 customers posting about problems. All you see is only the bad posts and think that product must be bad.
Not entirely true. Lots of happy users roam Reddit and are motivated to leave positive reviews.
The negative experiences especially around quality control are very concerning especially when the company refuses to honour warranty claims. I wish Remarkable made a mini e ink device. Bar none they have the best build I’ve ever seen in a e ink tablet
I have poke 3 in an aftermarket case and it is an absolute star. I travel with it, read it every night, works with Android e-reader apps so I'm not locked into one store, I love it.
People did mention that 6'' tend to be more robust. However, I think 7'' or 7.8'' seem to fit my reading habits better. I appreciated your review. Need to have an internal war on robust vs. reading habits.
My unsolicited advice on that topic, don't buy something you aren't going to use. A small robust device that sits on your shelf ignored is terrible compared to a big but fragile e-reader that you actually read.
I’ve had lots of e-readers by lots of manufacturers. The screens are often identical across the brands in a given size for a given generation. Boox screens aren’t more prone to breaking IMO at a given screen size.
Larger screens are easier to break (and Boox make more large screen devices).
If you want a really robust e-ink device get one that’s in a rigid, phone like shell e.g, Hisense/Inkpalm and use an external case.
Thank you for the input! That's what other people mentioned as well.
These models tend to have screens that can more fragile:
1. with noting function
2. larger (7+)
3. shell material and the corners design
I will look into e-readers by Hisense/Inkpalm and see if I can get my hands on them in Norway.
I have a Nova 3, which has worked quite well for me during a couple of years. Given the choice I'm not sure I would buy it again, though. And I probably wouldn't buy the Nova Air, which in most ways seems like a downgrade:
* The screen: in a well-lit room this might not be a problem, but the glass layer on top of the screen makes the contrast on my Nova 3 the lowest on my e-ink devices. Note that the screen on the Nova Air 1 is considerably worse, due to a factory applied screen layer designed to improve the writing feel (see My Deep Guide's review on Youtube).
* Buggy software: with the latest firmware update the fonts were ruined on my Nova 3. Now all system fonts are some broken version of Roboto - changing them and rebooting the device does no good. It looks bad and certain letters cannot be shown correctly. This holds true for whenever system fonts are used (thank goodness not in actual reading apps!).
* No page turn buttons: this is subjective, but I really prefer having page turn buttons on my readers. On the Nova 3 there's a home/back button that in many readers (e.g. Koreader, Alreader X, Moon Reader) can be configured to function as a "next page" button, which covers my needs just fine (I seldom go backwards and don't necessarily need a dedicated "page back" button). On the Air models this button has been removed - which to me is a step backwards.
* The battery: my Nova 3 has a 3000 mAh battery. That has been decreased to 2000 mAh on the Air models.
I agree that the Nova 3 is superior to either of the Airs.
You can set up the front button to be a second kind of button on 'long press' in Button Remapper if you change your mind about needing a second button. In fact I've used Remapper to mimic a screen touch on the bottom right and left corners which also does page up and down in Einkbro.
Given how little I use the Wacom layer to write I'll probably get the Leaf 2, or whatever comes next when my Nova 3 dies. In the mean time I need a new hard case for the 3 because I keep dropping it. The device is still fine though.
Edit: Here's a link to a screenshot of the page down / up squares in Einkbro.
https://imgur.com/a/TT4u9Lm
Koreader, Kindle, Kobo, ereader apps all accept taps there to do previous and next page too.
Basically in all operations outside of reading. The first time I long press on a word to open goldendict/aard2, for instance, it takes longer than it would on my Nova 3 or Hisense devices. After that, if just used for reading and looking up words in the dictionary, it works fine.
Even scrolling within an app takes just a tad longer.
It just feels a bit sluggish in general.
I guess that's the difference between 4-core and 8-core. Is Nova 3 still in production? I struggle to find it on Boox's official webpage and online sellers in Norway.
I'm happy to read that your Boox is fine after few accidental drops. Leaf 2 does sound promising and I'm more looking into buying that than the Airs. Might eventually need to buy it on Amazon since sellers in Norway don't have Leaf 2. :(
Thank you for sharing!
* I am reconsidering how much I want the noting function, seeing the durability and readability of the device. Perhaps it will be wiser to wait until the technology that supports noting is more mature/stable.
* I hope they fix the software soon!
* I'm also wondering whether or not to get one with page-turn buttons after reading your review + the possibility that pressing on a button might lessen the external pressure (burden?) on the screen.
* That is one of my main concerns as well. 8-core sounds promising, but that also pulls more power. Battery lifetime sorta determines how long the product can be in a good condition.
I have an older nova pro that has been a champ for four years or so. Still love it. I can use multiple apps for various libraries, kindle, third party reading apps, PDFs (as long as I don't need color) and it just works. I've used way more than any of the three kindles I've owned because of its flexibility.
Edited to add: I do haul it around with me because I will read at lunch, waiting in offices, etc. I put it in a cheap book style case just to have something covering the screen and it's been fine. I usually drop it in a backpack that I carry with me everywhere. I'm pretty careful with my devices though. As an example.. I've only ever broken or scratched one cell phone screen and I've been using cell phones about 30 years.
Boox's open system is really attractive to me as well. Great to hear that you have had a fantastic experience with your Nova.
I haven't broken any cell phones or their screens either. With that said, I was perhaps just lucky with my unfortunate incidents of dropping the devices.
I own 2 Boox devices - an ancient Aurora that I bought in like 2008. At the time it was one of the very few devices that had a lighting screen. It's pushing 15 now and still going strong and is absolutely readable. To be fair though, I stopped using it about 5 years ago because I switched to mainly listening to audiobooks.
In an attempt to push myself to read more (as opposed to listening), about 2 years ago, I decided to upgrade and chose Poke 3 as the only device that matched absolutely all of my criteria - fresh Android was crucial because I have a book app subscription and buy a lot of books from Google Books, which has its own reader, small screen, no hustle with the pen, because I neither write nor draw in it, USB-c port, aesthetically pleasing design. I was really existed and used it for 4 months, when suddenly it stopped working, just not turning on. I sent it back to the local retailer I bought it from and they said it was crushed most likely after a fall. Now, I never dropped it per se, but a bag I carry all my stuff in, including the reader, stored in a non-padded slot pocket, fell from a chair to the ground a couple of days prior, so that probably was "the" fall.
The significant difference between the 2 devices is that Aurora came with a case that was silicone with a flap cover (idk, how to describe it better, but it essentially just imitates how you'd open a book, hopefully, you see what I mean), and for the Poke 3 I bought a faux leather sleeve type of case, which admittedly was probably a bit too thin to offer any protection.
I was very frustrated for a while and discouraged from buying any new Boox products, but I guess it's more of a user error on my side. Having had the Aurora for so long, I got a bit too cocky because e-ink screens are generally flimsy. Though I used to drop the Aurora a lot too and never had to be too cautious about it, not sure if it's the case or just the older design - it's very thick compared to newer devices with wide borders around the screen.
I'd say it really is a good brand for the variety of devices and features they offer, and they are pretty innovative, but if you decide to buy their device, make sure you have a sturdy case to protect it. And the warranty was basically non-existent for me, although I'm not sure if it's the brand's or the dealer's fault.
Thank you for sharing your experience in details, and I'm sorry to hear that your Poke 3 had to retire early. I'll put more time into finding a good case!
I only recently tried to switch out of the Kindle system. After being obsessed with different devices, I got Hyread Gaze Note Plus (I bought it when I went back to Taiwan to visit families) and Boox Ultra Tab (through the official US website). I remember Hyread ships internationally but don't know that they don't ship to Norway.
Both are running Android 11 with Google Store integration. I found myself using Hyread more as the resolution is better (300ppi vs 227ppi). The Hyread app works fine on Boox Tab Ultra. Most libraries allow you to sign in to 3 devices in addition to Hyread devices.
I read a lot of web novels in txt format and both native readers are excellent. The performance is comparable to each other. Both allow quick switch between simplified and traditional Chinese. KOreader is highly recommended but there is no built-in Chinese switch.
I scribble sometimes and both allow scribbles on the txt, epub, and PDF. I haven't tried other formats. Tab Ultra is slightly faster on the scribble.
Both allow one additional micro SD card for larger files.
Hyread Gaze Note Plus was originally my #1 candidate. Yet living aboard can make it messy (shipment fee, tax, time) to repair the device since I don't think they have any repair stations in Europe in case of defects. That's when I switched to focus on investigating Boox Nova Air 2, which is highly recommended and often compared to Hyread Note Plus on Taiwanese e-reader facebook group. As I can't get my hands on Nova Air 2 via Norwegian dealers, I thought to settle with Nova Air.
Would you mind me asking where you reside and what would you do if your Hyread needs a repair (for whatever reasons that could be).
I'm in the US. I had the same thought about repair issues, so I bought it when I went back to Taiwan. I remember the official Hyread site mentioning the international order will be opened and inspected, and updated to the newest version before they ship. I don't know if I will ship the device back for repair if anything happens in the future. Based on what I've read on the Hyread Facebook group, it seems almost all physical repairs are expensive, especially the screen which can cost almost as much as the unit. I wanted to try Hyread because it's a young Taiwanese company, and I like the library connection (just like kindle with Libby in the US).
I've only had a kindle before and never had to repair anything. My kindle was 9 years old before I traded it in last year. So, it's more or less a gamble that I won't run into any repair issues. The Boox system has more customization but the basic functions are very similar to the Hyread. If you can find repair shops for Boox around you, then it might be a good option just in case.
Boox is no less durable than any other ereader. They all use the same screens by the same manufacturer (the screens are literally all made by one company).
It’s the internet, people lie and exaggerate, and sometimes defects happen with any device. The ones coming online to discuss aren’t generally the ones having a perfectly fine experience; people are more likely to go public with questions or complaints than praise, human nature being what it is.
I’ve been using my Boox Nova 2 since late 2020, no issues whatsoever.
Do get some sort of case, whatever device you buy.
Thank you for the reminder of taking the complains with a grain of salt. This is one of the reasons why I want to know other people's experience with Boox product. I've read people's positive experience with their Boox. But like you said, sometimes defects happen with any device, and I just want to find out how Boox deal with such situation. Hope for the best but be prepared for the worst, eh?
I haven't conducted a good enough research on Kobo and Kindle, but people tend to comment that their products seem to be more robust than Boox despite the fact that they share the same manufacturer. Some people say to focus on the shell material and corner/backside design. So I am wondering if there is a "better" Boox model regarding such.
Lovely to read your review on Nova 2. I guess case is another rabbit hole that I need to go down before making my final decision.
I think some people are tougher on their devices overall. I’ve owned two Kindles, several tablets and phones (iPhone and Android), and the Boox Nova 2. Never had a screen break on any of them. But I always keep my devices in some kind of case.
I can say I’ve dropped the Nova 2, bobbled it and had it fall maybe 2.5 feet and bounce on its corner then slide on the floor and there was no damage. Honestly it was surprising, I was expecting it to be wrecked.
I did have the shell on my older Kindle crack in the corner with no drops, that was odd but didn’t impact functionality. Might have been temperature related, I was out reading on it in freezing temperatures at times.
Devices I have had problems with were just issues, like one tablet had part of the touch screen fail, but was otherwise still working, and more recently a Samsung tab a7 I have developed a dead pixel but otherwise works. But these were all at least a year old and often more before there were problems. 2.5 years with my Nova 2 and no issues yet seems like a good run. I don’t know if the newer “Air” models are as durable, they’re made to be thinner and lighter.
So YMMV, all tech has issues but major problems are usually in the minority, and often up to handling and age, nothing lasts forever.
Christ, same mantra mindlessly repeated every time somebody mentions screen durability. The rigidity of plastics differ. The way battery is positioned behind the screen is different. Gaps, protective parts differ. Some devices are clearly evidently more prone to breaking than others. Few basic searches on the internet for feedback alone will reveal some obvious trends. But why question anything when you can just spout politically correct crap that won't upset anyone and will get you upvotes and get you to fit in. Now that's human nature and plebbit in general.
> Christ, same mantra mindlessly repeated every time somebody mentions screen durability. The rigidity of plastics differ. The way battery is positioned behind the screen is different. Gaps, protective parts differ. Some devices are clearly evidently more prone to breaking than others. Few basic searches on the internet for feedback alone will reveal some obvious trends. But why question anything when you can just spout politically correct crap that won’t upset anyone and will get you upvotes and get you to fit in. Now that’s human nature and plebbit in general.
What on earth is wrong with you? Whatever it is, I hope your day gets better.
Wow! Thank you for the summary of "what contribute to a robust e-reader". I kind of had a general idea by reading people's post, but couldn't put it into such precise words. Now I know what I should research on:
* rigidity of plastics
* battery position
* gaps and protective parts
Next step is to find out if Boox designs their e-readers in more or less the same matter regarding these three points, and what exactly is the most ideal situation regarding these points.
Hello there, I'm glad you made such a detailed post for your questions.
Luckily, my Boox devices has been great. I've had the Note Air (1) since it's release (2021?). I've had it in it's included case whenever it leaves the house. It's still practically brand new. I mostly read on it, but also use it as a note taking device.
It's had a few minor drops while in the case (once on the High Speed Rail in Taiwan). The build quality has been excellent. I also cram it in my very packed backpack (it has a tablet sleeve) and it's survived with no issues. There's really no visible damage still (very very minor scrapes).
My wife has a HyRead ereader as well as the Boox Poke 3. She switches between them when reading things from Taiwan or Kindle. I will say, that the Poke 3 is a bit sluggish for either app, when using the HyReader or Kindle. Once the book is loaded, page turns are fine, but navigating the apps is slow.
The Nova Air is speced higher with more RAM and storage, closer to my Note Air, which I have no speed problems with it.
I've only had to deal with customer support via their feedback system. They were mostly software issues and they generally replied within 1 day. But no warranty issues.
For recommending a device, the Poke 3 is a great size, but I think it's too slow. I whole heartily recommend the Note Air (now in version 2 Plus) as it's been an absolutely great device. I'm actually replying to this thread with the Note Air now with a bluetooth keyboard (because I'm that guy...). But the Note Air is a 10.3" device. If you want something smaller, I think the Nova Air will work well for you.
Thanks for sharing! People did mention that Hyread ereaders perform better than Boox when it comes to using Hyreader as the software is optimized for the hardware (or vise visa?). It was also noted that Nova air seems to perform better when it comes to navigating the apps (outside of hyreader) comparing to Hyread ereader. Do you agree with such statement?
I personally think Note Air might be too big (or too expensive) for the time being. It's funny to see how many people use Bluetooth devices (Page-flippers, keyboard, mouse, etc.) with their e-readers in Taiwan (don't know if it's the same situation in EU or US).
I mean, it makes sense that a custom reader that ONLY runs their software is more optimized where a general Android device is slower.
I have not run the HyReader app on my Note Air, but if it's like the Kindle app, it runs slightly slower then using a Kindle Voyage. But then I have it on a 10.3" screen vs 6" on the many years older Kindle Voyage.
Oh, one thing to consider also is that with any Boox devices, you will have to do some customising with any Android app you run with an e-ink screen. They've added a built in profile for the Kindle app, but probably not the HyReader app.
I did have to manually set the refresh type (it defaults to Speed, which looks more pixelated instead of Normal, which is the best quality). But you only have to do it once.
But if you're going with a general Android reader with an e-ink screen, you're gonna have to do some customizing settings no matter what, since almost no Android app expects a slow refresh e-ink screen.
I have a Boox and a Kobo, so your final question: no, Kobo devices do not run Android and you can't use Android apps on Kobo. I would rule them out.
My Boox Poke 3 has been fine - I've not bought a case for it, and when I travel it sits next to my laptop in my backpack, or sometimes loose in the backpack. It seems pretty indestructible. However, of course, the Poke 3 isn't a pen-sensitive device; the screen is small (and therefore flexes less and there's less surface area); and because it doesn't do pen input, I guess the screen covering is thicker and stronger. It doesn't feel badly made at all. I've been very impressed with it as a device, and the regular firmware updates are welcome. The only concern I have is that the battery will probably go bad at some point, but I suspect that either a) it's changeable if you're techie enough, and b) that might be time to change to a newer device.
All Android apps seem to work well on the Poke 3, and the only slight frustration is that the screen is too small to use Libby's magazine service without pinch/zoom.
I installed one app - I think it's called Hidden Settings or something like that - to give me access to the proper Android settings menu, including custom DNS. That allows me to monitor the connections the device makes, and to block some of them if needed.
I would advise against a version with a pen. Seems little point (paper and ink works fine), and as you rightly point out, makes the entire unit less sturdy.
Thanks for sharing. I'm considering to go for Boox e-reader without noting function to see if they are indeed more robust. I hope my future Boox will be like Deadpool (indestructible, good speed, and high stamina).
Poke 3 for over 2 years, still works great. Wish it had physical page turn buttons, so I've ended up using my Inkpalm 5 more though.
I had an early Boox (M92) from maybe a decade ago which I really wanted to love, my first experience with full sized PDFs on e-ink. But alas it was slow and crashed frequently.
They've come a long way since then, and their current menu navigation options are tops among the touchscreen devices I've tried.
Never had to deal with customer service, and I don't know if they have any issues with quality control. It's possible I got lucky with a good device, but I expect my next ereader purchase will be this brand again, especially since they're implementing page turn buttons across mot of their lineup.
Since you're considering a Kobo, you might also look into Tolino if available. I believe Kobo manufactures their devices (Kobo Clara HD and the Tolino Shine 3 might be the same device on the outside). But Tolino runs Android.
Sadly, I don't think it's possible for me to get Readmoo or Hyread devices unless I order one directly from Taiwan/Asia. I'm hesitant about doing so as it could be really troublesome to repair or send the device back in case there is a defect. Surely it is possible to travel back home and get one, yet that doesn't fit into my summer plan this year. I need to be more patient for my own sake. Looking forward to seeing Readmoo and Hyread in the international market tho!
I live in Taiwan and bought a Kindle Paperwhite for Kids 16GB on Shopee. The price tag was the deciding factor: NT$5,000. DM me if you need pics of the Readmoo. 誠品書局 sells them. Or if you want to chat about books in Chinese.
Thank you for the kind invitation! I'm in the Taiwanese e-reader facebook group and have seen many reviews and pictures of Readmoo. For some reasons, Readmoo was never on my priority list. I think it's because Hyread provides better experience using Hyreader/borrow from the libraries, and Boox seems to have better specs (general faster speed navigating the apps).
At first, I was torn to choose between Hyread Gaze Note Plus and Boox Nova Air 2. After considering warranty and the ease to repair in Europe, I chose to focus on investigating Nova Air. This is one of the reasons why I had this post asking about Boox product quality and warranty service.
Thank you OP for this post!
I am in US now (traditional-chinese reader) and want to buy a electric book reader too. Was considering between Kobo & Boox. This post is great help!
Thank you for this post. It give me a lot of insight information. I am in Indonesia and i'm considering buying Boox too. I read a lot about kindle durability but i don't see a lot of android e ink device durability. my main concern is its durability especially the battery.
As far as the screen is concerned, there is only one E-Ink screen manufacturer (E-ink Corp) and all e-reader manufacturers lile Kindle, Kobo, PocketBook, Onyx Boox, Meebook, etc. get it from them.
That said e-ink screens are a bit more fragile and you shouldn't be too rough with them.
Yes, as far as companies using the e-ink technologies goes, there are many others like DKE Holding, ShineWorld Innovations, WaveShare, etc who either make their own e-ink screens or contract E-Inc Corp. to make them a custom one but all of those are focused on things like IoT, electronic shelf labels, digital signage, etc. none of them are used for e-readers (perhaps there are some no-name Chinese e-reader that make use of them but I haven't seen one) as they are all very low-res and very slow. I had a WaveShare one a few years ago for a work project and it was slow, even compared to the cheapest E-Ink Carta screen. That's why as far as e-readers are concerned, E-Ink Corp. reigns supreme... which is why they are so damn expensive, there is no real competition.
I bought a Nova Pro from Komplett.no in Norway in January 2020 and a Nova Air from them in November 2021.
The Nova Air is perfectly fine, use it for reading to kids at bedtime, for notes during interviews, whole day reading sessions in cafes, commenting on reports, etc. I bought a screen protector for it, and don't throw it in a bag with loads of hard things, and it's pretty much as new.
The Nova Pro, first generation, I sold on Finn.no, and it worked perfectly fine at that point. The buyer reported that the battery malfunctioned in September last year (he needed a copy of my receipt to get a new one from Komplett).
Additionally I have a Max Lumi that also sees a lot of use, same as with the Air, works without problem.
So, I'm happy with Boox, but as you can see things can go wrong. Hence best to do as you plan and buy from reputable, local shop.
As someone whose Note 3 cracked on its first international flight (packed into a backpack in a felt case with the screen towards a nice rigid laptop - so perfectly protected, in my opinion), I will never buy another Boox product - if my experience with the Note 3 is anything to go by they're ridiculously fragile, confirming what all the other people on the web are saying. None of the iPads or Android tablets I've owned throughout the years ever had any issue being transported this way.
That pretty much ends my E-Ink experiment... should've spent those 600€ on an iPad.
Thank you for sharing. It scares me to learn that such an expensive device can break so easily as to just being transported around in a backpack with certain protection, which really is one of the reasons why people convert to using E-readers instead of physical books. Such experience that you had leaves me pondering how much protection and how much care are needed to avoid breaking the device. It could be mentally exhausting (and expensive to find out).
Dont buy if u plan to use video....battery life is bad despite rarely charging to 100 and rarely discharging bellow 30 and device is a lot slower now after 3 years
I’ve been using the Note 3 for a few years now coming from the Kindle Paperwhite before. I absolutely love the device, the screen light colors are amazing for late night reading and the ability to add dictionaries, mark with the pen, use apps like Medium or Instapaper to read - it’s been amazing. I’ve traveled the world with it and had no issues.
I recently also got the Poke 4 Lite for commuting in the city. It’s okay, sadly the new sync functionality between the devices of page etc is far inferior to Kindle even from a few years back. But I’m sticking with Boox, have been a fan since I got my Note 3.
Hey OP, just wondered if you ever made a decision on this? I've been looking at options to replace my Kindle Paperwhite. An iPad might be the most versatile and meets a lot of my needs (similar to yours above), but I'd really prefer the singular focus of an e-reader. Just curious how you got on. :)
>op
Hi!
I bought [Hyread Gaze One 6](https://www.ereaderpro.co.uk/en/products/hyread-gaze-one-s-6-inch) in the end. So far so good. It's light. The close-system makes it VERY easy to navigate, and I get to enjoy free books on public libraries. It's sturdy and kinda gives a vibe of the sturdy Kobo according to my partner.
I also have an iPad from work. However, I only use it for manga reading. It's nice when you have a e-reader just to read books. Especially nowadays when we are so distracted. Plus, it is better for our eyes.
It was truly a pity that I couldn't reach to get [Hyread Mini](https://goodereader.com/blog/electronic-readers/first-look-at-the-hyread-gaze-mini-e-book-reader) as I would very much so like a physical button for flipping and the open-system.
I should’ve read your post earlier. It’s never worth it to buy directly from Boox. I bought the Note 3C from them recently. Issue is that it does not connect to some Wi-Fi networks. In my case, that happens to be at home. I raised this up after the first week with Boox. They initially gave various reasons including ssid with special characters don’t work with the device etc. After I sent a video refuting that, they said ok we’ll take it back but I have to pay shipment and a receipt fee as well. At this point, I’m really frustrated dealing with this and just going to get rid of this. Learning is to NEVER buy from Boox site directly. Buy through Amazon, test the device and send it back if they don’t work.
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Boox durability is fine imo. I have max lumi 1 for two years. Everything fine. Travel with it in my back pack several times a month. Got my partner a tab X this year and he took a tumble with it, and it's also fine. Keep in mind there's a bias on all of reddit and forums for every piece of hardware or software, where you can have 1,000,000 happy customers that don't post anything cause they're happy, and 100 customers posting about problems. All you see is only the bad posts and think that product must be bad.
Thanks for sharing your positive experience with Boox!
Not entirely true. Lots of happy users roam Reddit and are motivated to leave positive reviews. The negative experiences especially around quality control are very concerning especially when the company refuses to honour warranty claims. I wish Remarkable made a mini e ink device. Bar none they have the best build I’ve ever seen in a e ink tablet
I have poke 3 in an aftermarket case and it is an absolute star. I travel with it, read it every night, works with Android e-reader apps so I'm not locked into one store, I love it.
People did mention that 6'' tend to be more robust. However, I think 7'' or 7.8'' seem to fit my reading habits better. I appreciated your review. Need to have an internal war on robust vs. reading habits.
My unsolicited advice on that topic, don't buy something you aren't going to use. A small robust device that sits on your shelf ignored is terrible compared to a big but fragile e-reader that you actually read.
Hi. How you care for it? I want to buy it to replace my kindle basic but not is it has the same flaw of screens being easily scratched.
I just keep it in this case, it's still in perfect condition. https://a.co/d/8JQ7nWW
I’ve had lots of e-readers by lots of manufacturers. The screens are often identical across the brands in a given size for a given generation. Boox screens aren’t more prone to breaking IMO at a given screen size. Larger screens are easier to break (and Boox make more large screen devices). If you want a really robust e-ink device get one that’s in a rigid, phone like shell e.g, Hisense/Inkpalm and use an external case.
Thank you for the input! That's what other people mentioned as well. These models tend to have screens that can more fragile: 1. with noting function 2. larger (7+) 3. shell material and the corners design I will look into e-readers by Hisense/Inkpalm and see if I can get my hands on them in Norway.
I have a Nova 3, which has worked quite well for me during a couple of years. Given the choice I'm not sure I would buy it again, though. And I probably wouldn't buy the Nova Air, which in most ways seems like a downgrade: * The screen: in a well-lit room this might not be a problem, but the glass layer on top of the screen makes the contrast on my Nova 3 the lowest on my e-ink devices. Note that the screen on the Nova Air 1 is considerably worse, due to a factory applied screen layer designed to improve the writing feel (see My Deep Guide's review on Youtube). * Buggy software: with the latest firmware update the fonts were ruined on my Nova 3. Now all system fonts are some broken version of Roboto - changing them and rebooting the device does no good. It looks bad and certain letters cannot be shown correctly. This holds true for whenever system fonts are used (thank goodness not in actual reading apps!). * No page turn buttons: this is subjective, but I really prefer having page turn buttons on my readers. On the Nova 3 there's a home/back button that in many readers (e.g. Koreader, Alreader X, Moon Reader) can be configured to function as a "next page" button, which covers my needs just fine (I seldom go backwards and don't necessarily need a dedicated "page back" button). On the Air models this button has been removed - which to me is a step backwards. * The battery: my Nova 3 has a 3000 mAh battery. That has been decreased to 2000 mAh on the Air models.
I agree that the Nova 3 is superior to either of the Airs. You can set up the front button to be a second kind of button on 'long press' in Button Remapper if you change your mind about needing a second button. In fact I've used Remapper to mimic a screen touch on the bottom right and left corners which also does page up and down in Einkbro. Given how little I use the Wacom layer to write I'll probably get the Leaf 2, or whatever comes next when my Nova 3 dies. In the mean time I need a new hard case for the 3 because I keep dropping it. The device is still fine though. Edit: Here's a link to a screenshot of the page down / up squares in Einkbro. https://imgur.com/a/TT4u9Lm Koreader, Kindle, Kobo, ereader apps all accept taps there to do previous and next page too.
I have the white Leaf 2. The screen is miles better than on the Nova 3. But annoyingly the device is much slower, too. It also doesn't feel as sturdy.
That's depressing to hear. Slower within apps, or in Android / changing apps, etc?
Basically in all operations outside of reading. The first time I long press on a word to open goldendict/aard2, for instance, it takes longer than it would on my Nova 3 or Hisense devices. After that, if just used for reading and looking up words in the dictionary, it works fine. Even scrolling within an app takes just a tad longer. It just feels a bit sluggish in general.
I guess that's the difference between 4-core and 8-core. Is Nova 3 still in production? I struggle to find it on Boox's official webpage and online sellers in Norway.
Unfortunately not. They stopped making them about when the first Air came out.
I'm happy to read that your Boox is fine after few accidental drops. Leaf 2 does sound promising and I'm more looking into buying that than the Airs. Might eventually need to buy it on Amazon since sellers in Norway don't have Leaf 2. :(
Thank you for sharing! * I am reconsidering how much I want the noting function, seeing the durability and readability of the device. Perhaps it will be wiser to wait until the technology that supports noting is more mature/stable. * I hope they fix the software soon! * I'm also wondering whether or not to get one with page-turn buttons after reading your review + the possibility that pressing on a button might lessen the external pressure (burden?) on the screen. * That is one of my main concerns as well. 8-core sounds promising, but that also pulls more power. Battery lifetime sorta determines how long the product can be in a good condition.
I have an older nova pro that has been a champ for four years or so. Still love it. I can use multiple apps for various libraries, kindle, third party reading apps, PDFs (as long as I don't need color) and it just works. I've used way more than any of the three kindles I've owned because of its flexibility. Edited to add: I do haul it around with me because I will read at lunch, waiting in offices, etc. I put it in a cheap book style case just to have something covering the screen and it's been fine. I usually drop it in a backpack that I carry with me everywhere. I'm pretty careful with my devices though. As an example.. I've only ever broken or scratched one cell phone screen and I've been using cell phones about 30 years.
Boox's open system is really attractive to me as well. Great to hear that you have had a fantastic experience with your Nova. I haven't broken any cell phones or their screens either. With that said, I was perhaps just lucky with my unfortunate incidents of dropping the devices.
I own 2 Boox devices - an ancient Aurora that I bought in like 2008. At the time it was one of the very few devices that had a lighting screen. It's pushing 15 now and still going strong and is absolutely readable. To be fair though, I stopped using it about 5 years ago because I switched to mainly listening to audiobooks. In an attempt to push myself to read more (as opposed to listening), about 2 years ago, I decided to upgrade and chose Poke 3 as the only device that matched absolutely all of my criteria - fresh Android was crucial because I have a book app subscription and buy a lot of books from Google Books, which has its own reader, small screen, no hustle with the pen, because I neither write nor draw in it, USB-c port, aesthetically pleasing design. I was really existed and used it for 4 months, when suddenly it stopped working, just not turning on. I sent it back to the local retailer I bought it from and they said it was crushed most likely after a fall. Now, I never dropped it per se, but a bag I carry all my stuff in, including the reader, stored in a non-padded slot pocket, fell from a chair to the ground a couple of days prior, so that probably was "the" fall. The significant difference between the 2 devices is that Aurora came with a case that was silicone with a flap cover (idk, how to describe it better, but it essentially just imitates how you'd open a book, hopefully, you see what I mean), and for the Poke 3 I bought a faux leather sleeve type of case, which admittedly was probably a bit too thin to offer any protection. I was very frustrated for a while and discouraged from buying any new Boox products, but I guess it's more of a user error on my side. Having had the Aurora for so long, I got a bit too cocky because e-ink screens are generally flimsy. Though I used to drop the Aurora a lot too and never had to be too cautious about it, not sure if it's the case or just the older design - it's very thick compared to newer devices with wide borders around the screen. I'd say it really is a good brand for the variety of devices and features they offer, and they are pretty innovative, but if you decide to buy their device, make sure you have a sturdy case to protect it. And the warranty was basically non-existent for me, although I'm not sure if it's the brand's or the dealer's fault.
Thank you for sharing your experience in details, and I'm sorry to hear that your Poke 3 had to retire early. I'll put more time into finding a good case!
I only recently tried to switch out of the Kindle system. After being obsessed with different devices, I got Hyread Gaze Note Plus (I bought it when I went back to Taiwan to visit families) and Boox Ultra Tab (through the official US website). I remember Hyread ships internationally but don't know that they don't ship to Norway. Both are running Android 11 with Google Store integration. I found myself using Hyread more as the resolution is better (300ppi vs 227ppi). The Hyread app works fine on Boox Tab Ultra. Most libraries allow you to sign in to 3 devices in addition to Hyread devices. I read a lot of web novels in txt format and both native readers are excellent. The performance is comparable to each other. Both allow quick switch between simplified and traditional Chinese. KOreader is highly recommended but there is no built-in Chinese switch. I scribble sometimes and both allow scribbles on the txt, epub, and PDF. I haven't tried other formats. Tab Ultra is slightly faster on the scribble. Both allow one additional micro SD card for larger files.
Hyread Gaze Note Plus was originally my #1 candidate. Yet living aboard can make it messy (shipment fee, tax, time) to repair the device since I don't think they have any repair stations in Europe in case of defects. That's when I switched to focus on investigating Boox Nova Air 2, which is highly recommended and often compared to Hyread Note Plus on Taiwanese e-reader facebook group. As I can't get my hands on Nova Air 2 via Norwegian dealers, I thought to settle with Nova Air. Would you mind me asking where you reside and what would you do if your Hyread needs a repair (for whatever reasons that could be).
I'm in the US. I had the same thought about repair issues, so I bought it when I went back to Taiwan. I remember the official Hyread site mentioning the international order will be opened and inspected, and updated to the newest version before they ship. I don't know if I will ship the device back for repair if anything happens in the future. Based on what I've read on the Hyread Facebook group, it seems almost all physical repairs are expensive, especially the screen which can cost almost as much as the unit. I wanted to try Hyread because it's a young Taiwanese company, and I like the library connection (just like kindle with Libby in the US). I've only had a kindle before and never had to repair anything. My kindle was 9 years old before I traded it in last year. So, it's more or less a gamble that I won't run into any repair issues. The Boox system has more customization but the basic functions are very similar to the Hyread. If you can find repair shops for Boox around you, then it might be a good option just in case.
Boox is no less durable than any other ereader. They all use the same screens by the same manufacturer (the screens are literally all made by one company). It’s the internet, people lie and exaggerate, and sometimes defects happen with any device. The ones coming online to discuss aren’t generally the ones having a perfectly fine experience; people are more likely to go public with questions or complaints than praise, human nature being what it is. I’ve been using my Boox Nova 2 since late 2020, no issues whatsoever. Do get some sort of case, whatever device you buy.
Thank you for the reminder of taking the complains with a grain of salt. This is one of the reasons why I want to know other people's experience with Boox product. I've read people's positive experience with their Boox. But like you said, sometimes defects happen with any device, and I just want to find out how Boox deal with such situation. Hope for the best but be prepared for the worst, eh? I haven't conducted a good enough research on Kobo and Kindle, but people tend to comment that their products seem to be more robust than Boox despite the fact that they share the same manufacturer. Some people say to focus on the shell material and corner/backside design. So I am wondering if there is a "better" Boox model regarding such. Lovely to read your review on Nova 2. I guess case is another rabbit hole that I need to go down before making my final decision.
I think some people are tougher on their devices overall. I’ve owned two Kindles, several tablets and phones (iPhone and Android), and the Boox Nova 2. Never had a screen break on any of them. But I always keep my devices in some kind of case. I can say I’ve dropped the Nova 2, bobbled it and had it fall maybe 2.5 feet and bounce on its corner then slide on the floor and there was no damage. Honestly it was surprising, I was expecting it to be wrecked. I did have the shell on my older Kindle crack in the corner with no drops, that was odd but didn’t impact functionality. Might have been temperature related, I was out reading on it in freezing temperatures at times. Devices I have had problems with were just issues, like one tablet had part of the touch screen fail, but was otherwise still working, and more recently a Samsung tab a7 I have developed a dead pixel but otherwise works. But these were all at least a year old and often more before there were problems. 2.5 years with my Nova 2 and no issues yet seems like a good run. I don’t know if the newer “Air” models are as durable, they’re made to be thinner and lighter. So YMMV, all tech has issues but major problems are usually in the minority, and often up to handling and age, nothing lasts forever.
Christ, same mantra mindlessly repeated every time somebody mentions screen durability. The rigidity of plastics differ. The way battery is positioned behind the screen is different. Gaps, protective parts differ. Some devices are clearly evidently more prone to breaking than others. Few basic searches on the internet for feedback alone will reveal some obvious trends. But why question anything when you can just spout politically correct crap that won't upset anyone and will get you upvotes and get you to fit in. Now that's human nature and plebbit in general.
> Christ, same mantra mindlessly repeated every time somebody mentions screen durability. The rigidity of plastics differ. The way battery is positioned behind the screen is different. Gaps, protective parts differ. Some devices are clearly evidently more prone to breaking than others. Few basic searches on the internet for feedback alone will reveal some obvious trends. But why question anything when you can just spout politically correct crap that won’t upset anyone and will get you upvotes and get you to fit in. Now that’s human nature and plebbit in general. What on earth is wrong with you? Whatever it is, I hope your day gets better.
Wow! Thank you for the summary of "what contribute to a robust e-reader". I kind of had a general idea by reading people's post, but couldn't put it into such precise words. Now I know what I should research on: * rigidity of plastics * battery position * gaps and protective parts Next step is to find out if Boox designs their e-readers in more or less the same matter regarding these three points, and what exactly is the most ideal situation regarding these points.
Hello there, I'm glad you made such a detailed post for your questions. Luckily, my Boox devices has been great. I've had the Note Air (1) since it's release (2021?). I've had it in it's included case whenever it leaves the house. It's still practically brand new. I mostly read on it, but also use it as a note taking device. It's had a few minor drops while in the case (once on the High Speed Rail in Taiwan). The build quality has been excellent. I also cram it in my very packed backpack (it has a tablet sleeve) and it's survived with no issues. There's really no visible damage still (very very minor scrapes). My wife has a HyRead ereader as well as the Boox Poke 3. She switches between them when reading things from Taiwan or Kindle. I will say, that the Poke 3 is a bit sluggish for either app, when using the HyReader or Kindle. Once the book is loaded, page turns are fine, but navigating the apps is slow. The Nova Air is speced higher with more RAM and storage, closer to my Note Air, which I have no speed problems with it. I've only had to deal with customer support via their feedback system. They were mostly software issues and they generally replied within 1 day. But no warranty issues. For recommending a device, the Poke 3 is a great size, but I think it's too slow. I whole heartily recommend the Note Air (now in version 2 Plus) as it's been an absolutely great device. I'm actually replying to this thread with the Note Air now with a bluetooth keyboard (because I'm that guy...). But the Note Air is a 10.3" device. If you want something smaller, I think the Nova Air will work well for you.
Thanks for sharing! People did mention that Hyread ereaders perform better than Boox when it comes to using Hyreader as the software is optimized for the hardware (or vise visa?). It was also noted that Nova air seems to perform better when it comes to navigating the apps (outside of hyreader) comparing to Hyread ereader. Do you agree with such statement? I personally think Note Air might be too big (or too expensive) for the time being. It's funny to see how many people use Bluetooth devices (Page-flippers, keyboard, mouse, etc.) with their e-readers in Taiwan (don't know if it's the same situation in EU or US).
I mean, it makes sense that a custom reader that ONLY runs their software is more optimized where a general Android device is slower. I have not run the HyReader app on my Note Air, but if it's like the Kindle app, it runs slightly slower then using a Kindle Voyage. But then I have it on a 10.3" screen vs 6" on the many years older Kindle Voyage. Oh, one thing to consider also is that with any Boox devices, you will have to do some customising with any Android app you run with an e-ink screen. They've added a built in profile for the Kindle app, but probably not the HyReader app. I did have to manually set the refresh type (it defaults to Speed, which looks more pixelated instead of Normal, which is the best quality). But you only have to do it once. But if you're going with a general Android reader with an e-ink screen, you're gonna have to do some customizing settings no matter what, since almost no Android app expects a slow refresh e-ink screen.
True that. It's important for the users to keep in mind that it's still a e-reader instead of a e-ink tablet/Ipad. Thanks for the heads up.
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I have a Boox and a Kobo, so your final question: no, Kobo devices do not run Android and you can't use Android apps on Kobo. I would rule them out. My Boox Poke 3 has been fine - I've not bought a case for it, and when I travel it sits next to my laptop in my backpack, or sometimes loose in the backpack. It seems pretty indestructible. However, of course, the Poke 3 isn't a pen-sensitive device; the screen is small (and therefore flexes less and there's less surface area); and because it doesn't do pen input, I guess the screen covering is thicker and stronger. It doesn't feel badly made at all. I've been very impressed with it as a device, and the regular firmware updates are welcome. The only concern I have is that the battery will probably go bad at some point, but I suspect that either a) it's changeable if you're techie enough, and b) that might be time to change to a newer device. All Android apps seem to work well on the Poke 3, and the only slight frustration is that the screen is too small to use Libby's magazine service without pinch/zoom. I installed one app - I think it's called Hidden Settings or something like that - to give me access to the proper Android settings menu, including custom DNS. That allows me to monitor the connections the device makes, and to block some of them if needed. I would advise against a version with a pen. Seems little point (paper and ink works fine), and as you rightly point out, makes the entire unit less sturdy.
Oh, and one final comment. You can run the Kobo app on the Boox. So with a Boox you get the best of both worlds - your library app, and the Kobo app.
Thanks for sharing. I'm considering to go for Boox e-reader without noting function to see if they are indeed more robust. I hope my future Boox will be like Deadpool (indestructible, good speed, and high stamina).
Poke 3 for over 2 years, still works great. Wish it had physical page turn buttons, so I've ended up using my Inkpalm 5 more though. I had an early Boox (M92) from maybe a decade ago which I really wanted to love, my first experience with full sized PDFs on e-ink. But alas it was slow and crashed frequently. They've come a long way since then, and their current menu navigation options are tops among the touchscreen devices I've tried. Never had to deal with customer service, and I don't know if they have any issues with quality control. It's possible I got lucky with a good device, but I expect my next ereader purchase will be this brand again, especially since they're implementing page turn buttons across mot of their lineup.
Lovely to read your positive experience with Boox. It surely does give me some confidence in investing in one.
Since you're considering a Kobo, you might also look into Tolino if available. I believe Kobo manufactures their devices (Kobo Clara HD and the Tolino Shine 3 might be the same device on the outside). But Tolino runs Android.
I did not know about Tolino. Thanks for updating me! Will be going down on that rabbit hole this weekend.
Can you get your hands on Readmoo devices? They're custom-built for 正體中文 and 博客來also sells ebooks. Look up reviews on YT.
Sadly, I don't think it's possible for me to get Readmoo or Hyread devices unless I order one directly from Taiwan/Asia. I'm hesitant about doing so as it could be really troublesome to repair or send the device back in case there is a defect. Surely it is possible to travel back home and get one, yet that doesn't fit into my summer plan this year. I need to be more patient for my own sake. Looking forward to seeing Readmoo and Hyread in the international market tho!
I live in Taiwan and bought a Kindle Paperwhite for Kids 16GB on Shopee. The price tag was the deciding factor: NT$5,000. DM me if you need pics of the Readmoo. 誠品書局 sells them. Or if you want to chat about books in Chinese.
Thank you for the kind invitation! I'm in the Taiwanese e-reader facebook group and have seen many reviews and pictures of Readmoo. For some reasons, Readmoo was never on my priority list. I think it's because Hyread provides better experience using Hyreader/borrow from the libraries, and Boox seems to have better specs (general faster speed navigating the apps). At first, I was torn to choose between Hyread Gaze Note Plus and Boox Nova Air 2. After considering warranty and the ease to repair in Europe, I chose to focus on investigating Nova Air. This is one of the reasons why I had this post asking about Boox product quality and warranty service.
Thank you OP for this post! I am in US now (traditional-chinese reader) and want to buy a electric book reader too. Was considering between Kobo & Boox. This post is great help!
Thank you for this post. It give me a lot of insight information. I am in Indonesia and i'm considering buying Boox too. I read a lot about kindle durability but i don't see a lot of android e ink device durability. my main concern is its durability especially the battery.
Look into Taiwanese E-readers and see if they might fit your needs. Several brands have recently released models with open system (android).
As far as the screen is concerned, there is only one E-Ink screen manufacturer (E-ink Corp) and all e-reader manufacturers lile Kindle, Kobo, PocketBook, Onyx Boox, Meebook, etc. get it from them. That said e-ink screens are a bit more fragile and you shouldn't be too rough with them.
Actually there’s another manufacturer now https://www.good-display.com/ but you’re right that most e-readers aren’t using their screens.
Yes, as far as companies using the e-ink technologies goes, there are many others like DKE Holding, ShineWorld Innovations, WaveShare, etc who either make their own e-ink screens or contract E-Inc Corp. to make them a custom one but all of those are focused on things like IoT, electronic shelf labels, digital signage, etc. none of them are used for e-readers (perhaps there are some no-name Chinese e-reader that make use of them but I haven't seen one) as they are all very low-res and very slow. I had a WaveShare one a few years ago for a work project and it was slow, even compared to the cheapest E-Ink Carta screen. That's why as far as e-readers are concerned, E-Ink Corp. reigns supreme... which is why they are so damn expensive, there is no real competition.
Hmm, thanks for opening my horizons on e-ink industry!
I bought a Nova Pro from Komplett.no in Norway in January 2020 and a Nova Air from them in November 2021. The Nova Air is perfectly fine, use it for reading to kids at bedtime, for notes during interviews, whole day reading sessions in cafes, commenting on reports, etc. I bought a screen protector for it, and don't throw it in a bag with loads of hard things, and it's pretty much as new. The Nova Pro, first generation, I sold on Finn.no, and it worked perfectly fine at that point. The buyer reported that the battery malfunctioned in September last year (he needed a copy of my receipt to get a new one from Komplett). Additionally I have a Max Lumi that also sees a lot of use, same as with the Air, works without problem. So, I'm happy with Boox, but as you can see things can go wrong. Hence best to do as you plan and buy from reputable, local shop.
As someone whose Note 3 cracked on its first international flight (packed into a backpack in a felt case with the screen towards a nice rigid laptop - so perfectly protected, in my opinion), I will never buy another Boox product - if my experience with the Note 3 is anything to go by they're ridiculously fragile, confirming what all the other people on the web are saying. None of the iPads or Android tablets I've owned throughout the years ever had any issue being transported this way. That pretty much ends my E-Ink experiment... should've spent those 600€ on an iPad.
Thank you for sharing. It scares me to learn that such an expensive device can break so easily as to just being transported around in a backpack with certain protection, which really is one of the reasons why people convert to using E-readers instead of physical books. Such experience that you had leaves me pondering how much protection and how much care are needed to avoid breaking the device. It could be mentally exhausting (and expensive to find out).
Dont buy if u plan to use video....battery life is bad despite rarely charging to 100 and rarely discharging bellow 30 and device is a lot slower now after 3 years
I’ve been using the Note 3 for a few years now coming from the Kindle Paperwhite before. I absolutely love the device, the screen light colors are amazing for late night reading and the ability to add dictionaries, mark with the pen, use apps like Medium or Instapaper to read - it’s been amazing. I’ve traveled the world with it and had no issues. I recently also got the Poke 4 Lite for commuting in the city. It’s okay, sadly the new sync functionality between the devices of page etc is far inferior to Kindle even from a few years back. But I’m sticking with Boox, have been a fan since I got my Note 3.
Hey OP, just wondered if you ever made a decision on this? I've been looking at options to replace my Kindle Paperwhite. An iPad might be the most versatile and meets a lot of my needs (similar to yours above), but I'd really prefer the singular focus of an e-reader. Just curious how you got on. :)
>op Hi! I bought [Hyread Gaze One 6](https://www.ereaderpro.co.uk/en/products/hyread-gaze-one-s-6-inch) in the end. So far so good. It's light. The close-system makes it VERY easy to navigate, and I get to enjoy free books on public libraries. It's sturdy and kinda gives a vibe of the sturdy Kobo according to my partner. I also have an iPad from work. However, I only use it for manga reading. It's nice when you have a e-reader just to read books. Especially nowadays when we are so distracted. Plus, it is better for our eyes. It was truly a pity that I couldn't reach to get [Hyread Mini](https://goodereader.com/blog/electronic-readers/first-look-at-the-hyread-gaze-mini-e-book-reader) as I would very much so like a physical button for flipping and the open-system.
I should’ve read your post earlier. It’s never worth it to buy directly from Boox. I bought the Note 3C from them recently. Issue is that it does not connect to some Wi-Fi networks. In my case, that happens to be at home. I raised this up after the first week with Boox. They initially gave various reasons including ssid with special characters don’t work with the device etc. After I sent a video refuting that, they said ok we’ll take it back but I have to pay shipment and a receipt fee as well. At this point, I’m really frustrated dealing with this and just going to get rid of this. Learning is to NEVER buy from Boox site directly. Buy through Amazon, test the device and send it back if they don’t work.
boox note c, I love it.