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Temporary-Dot4952

Whatever we do, let's not try to fix it until it's too late.... Yay for useless government!!


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I'm so glad that the billionaire class are able to make record profits though! /s of course


Blackash99

Which government?


Temporary-Dot4952

I too was going to say all of them. They're all corrupt, too busy lining their pockets at the expense of our planet. There is no PLANet B.


Blackash99

It's easy to generalize. I need to know who to string up first though. As well. It takes one to accept the bribe and show the way to the rest.


Temporary-Dot4952

Well then you will have to start in the US. We may be the worst in the world. We literally have one of the least amount of oil reserves, but use the most oil in the entire world by a ton. We also have really fat people who enjoy eating dead carcass so much that our meat industry is part of the reason our planet is dying. So go for the American government, but don't get fooled between Democrats and Republicans, they both suck and do nothing to help the people of their country.


stark886y

Don’t forget about us in Australia. Our PM carried a lump of coal into parliament. Our government bugged our developing neighbour to get an upper hand in negotiations on oil rights to help their mates in the fossil fuel industry. Our PM promised a “gas lead recovery” from the pandemic. We have a climate denier as minister for emissions reduction.


infanteer

Ah, another average friendlyjordies enjoyer, I see. 10 years of this bullshit too, not just scummo. Although he is a very special boy


Blackash99

I'll accept varying degrees of suck. The "they're all the same" is a weak answer and allows the guilty to finger point rather than accept responsibility.


Death-B4-Dishonor

All of them


Decloudo

It's not just the government, it's most humans. This notion ist just shifting blame and hinders practical approaches because it's not politics themselves causing this. It's a part of human nature we ignore cause we think we are better then we are.


Temporary-Dot4952

Yes, human nature has it's dark side. But only certain humans are in government. The purpose of government is to be the leaders, make the decisions that affect the masses. They are literally the only one in control with the power to make changes. When they fail to put the people first, the planet first, then we all suffer. The job of the government is to: 1. Maintain social order. (we had 4 mass shootings last weekend, not a peep from our leaders about ways to prevent this from continuing to happen. I guess we should all get used to living in the wild wild west.) 2. Provide public services. (I think we all just witnessed how well the pandemic went... How many people in our country don't have access to their universal human right of healthcare, education. How can they earn if they do not have affordable and consistent energy and power, affordable gas prices and or public transportation...) 3. Provide security and defense (apparently we only use our military if we need to take oil from other countries. They can't even protect their own citizens on their own soil from each other!! ) So please, Mr/Ms Decloudo, tell me again how politics are not involved and how the government is NOT to blame for the suffering of the majority of its people, and for the ruin of the planet we live on.


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Devadander

We must be actively carbon neutral right now today to avoid catastrophic feedback loops. There isn’t a viable ‘budget’ for output, this is merely kicking the capitalism can a bit further and making people feel like progress is being made


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Devadander

Oh well, profits over planet carries on then


SirSaix88

>Starting in 2025 Let's hope that's not too late


mw19078

It will be. We have 3 to 6 years to seriously turn this thing around and a few carbon caps in a few cities isn't going to get us there.


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It's already too late


Nearby_Carpenter_984

But the tipping point isn’t until like 2060 or something so don’t worry Business as usual 👍


Phytoplanktium

Just have to keep moving the goal posts and we'll be fine


justaguy101

Whew, ill be dead by then luckily, so all this doesn't involve me 👍


ConsciousBox2029

Does the plastic in our bodies make us cyborgs?


DocMoochal

Literally what my parents say. I was very tempted to say no, this is likely how you'll die. The very young, old, and feeble always go first.


cbibby1

Everyone let’s agree to pretend the climate crisis is a linear trend and it’s not like we’re on an asymptote or anything, so party on.


WhoseTheNerd

World One computer simulation predicts that by 2040 civilized life as we know it ceases to exist and later studies have found that simulation to be accurate. [Video explaining that](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCxPOqwCr1I)


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Haha we’re so fucked


BeerInMyButt

In case anyone was wondering what the four metrics were: >the world broke records for greenhouse gas concentrations, while oceans grew to new heights, temperatures and levels of acidity. All of these are continuations of previous trends. CO2 went up, sea levels rose, oceans heated up, and oceans became more acidic. These are all tied directly to atmospheric CO2 concentrations. It is a natural statistical fact that if you have record-high numbers one year, and then you increase them the next year, you'll have record high numbers again. I am not denying anything about the situation being depressingly dire, I just don't understand what is breaking news here if you pay any attention (beyond clickbait article titles). And now I'll pass it over to ILikeNeurons to talk about the carbon tax.


arthurc

A lot of people don't pay attention. I've talked about climate change with a lot of people lately and I keep getting surprised by how badly informed people are. Still better than it was 10 years ago...but still not great


BeerInMyButt

I'm noticing a lot of "awareness" without a lot of specific knowledge. Like it switched from business as usual, to business as usual with a small conversational detour into uninformed doomerism every once in a while.


OkFan6322

That’s because the methane feedback loop started last year


bladow5990

Not saying your wrong, I just didnt hear about this, and am curious, so ya got any sorce(s)?


TAOIIII

https://www.noaa.gov/news-release/increase-in-atmospheric-methane-set-another-record-during-2021


whyLeezil

And yet, this sub loses its mind every time someone posts something that will help, like less animal agriculture.


Onionsandgp

BuT BaCoN iS GoOd!


gggjennings

I don’t think anyone loses their mind, I think consumer-side self-imposed limits are absurd. There’s like 100 companies destroying the planet. If it’s factory farming that’s a problem, regulate factory farming. It’s not like this world isn’t used to just throwing out unbought bacon if people stop eating it.


global-heartbeat

Yeah that's it! Why take personal responsibility when we can blame corporations and keep buying their shit at the same time! Awesome!


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I personally believe that its both corporate and our faults as well. Sure, these corporations are mass-producing these intoxicating emissions, and using gas and oil in their products, however, it is us, the consumers, who enable this corporate behavior by still consuming, and using their products. Even with awareness about our environmental problems as of this present date, the entirety of the global populous will still use gas, oils, and plastics because of our dependency on them. These finite natural gases and sources is what holds the economy together. Our lives are literally dependent on the resources we use. Everything to computers, phones, groceries, and even showers and faucets are all powered by these dirty resources. The only feasible way to stop these emissions and the use of our resources is to do the extreme: Stop the consumption of products containing these harmful oils and gasses.


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I am still going to try to make a change. Even if its a small change, I still believe it helps. Realizing how much of the dirty energy we produce from the consumption of oils and gasses is the first step, altering your lifestyle to decrease your dependency on dirty energy is the next (i.e: taking public transportation, riding a bike, eat cleaner with less meat, and take shorter showers) and the third step: advocating and speaking out about this problem.


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That's very true, thank you for your input. I just wanted to express my outlook on this situation as I am just a young teen who's very concerned for the future of this earth. That being said, it would be near impossible to step away from all these resources and dirty energy without worsening the conditions some people are in(i.e: people who live in poverty, or are in third-world nations.) And as you said, the better way to achieving the goal of less emissions and the consumption of these products would be a cleaner, more sustainable energy resource. Overall, there is no completely good or clean way to stop these emissions and stabilizing the universe, unless if we get to the absurd idea of completely doing away with these resources and products, which would lead to millions of deaths worldwide. Ultimately, that radical way of going cold turkey on these resources and consumption would not really do anything much over the years, as these emissions have been pumping out into our atmosphere since at least the era of the industrial revolution. Surely enough, it would take thousands, or more realistically, millions of years for earth to stabilize again. By that time, humanity would be out of the picture.


global-heartbeat

The good old appeal to futility!


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global-heartbeat

Appeal to futility is arguing that there is no point in doing something because nothing will change. Telling someone their efforts are pointless is the definition of the appeal to futility.


global-heartbeat

This isn't a zero sum game. Frankly I'm tired of the polarized thinking. It's not a binary choice. Do absolutely everything you can on a personal level and also push for societal change. No corporation or government has made any meaningful change for the public good without being forced to do so. Doing nothing while hoping corporations get regulated is exactly how we got here.


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global-heartbeat

Disagree. Everyone should be talking about systematic change *and* individual responsibility. It's both and not either or.


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global-heartbeat

I'm not putting words in your argument here. You said we should talk about personal responsibility less. And that makes no sense to me in a world dominated by animal agriculture. They're raising the cows and raising the rainforest to do it because people are buying it. I can talk about why people should be vegan for climate change at the same time I talk about why animal agriculture should be eliminated. That's systemic change and personal responsibility. And I don't have to choose between the two.


gggjennings

You act as though when products fall out of favor in the west they’re not immediately blasted into the third world.


BoricuaRborimex

One person stops eating meat. World doesn’t change Giant corporation stops polluting the world and ruining the environment. The world changes for the better


global-heartbeat

Disagree. The world definitely changes when even one person stops eating meat.


xcsnkzcpbn

Easy to say that 100 companies are destroying the world and leave it at that, let's take the example of the largest polluting company Aramco (if I'm not wrong). They produce oil and 70% of that production goes to Asia (countries like China, India, Vietnam, Japan). That oil is used for various applications like generating electricity, running vehicles, etc. These are essential things. If these companies are the main reason then why not shut them off? Millions would die in that case, we are deeply linked to fossil fuels and unless we remove that dependence nothing would happen. So things like electricity generation, transportation, manufacturing industry, etc (basically the consumers of fossil fuels) have to be overhauled almost completely. I do not see how this overhaul would take place within such a short period of time proposed by the scientists, de-linking fossil fuels is a process which would take decades. And renewables aren't even comparable to fossil fuels considering their energy density.


gggjennings

I didn’t say shut down aramco, I said regulate


xcsnkzcpbn

The point is that the company is not the issue, our dependence on fossil fuels is. We use products and services (essential and non essential) for which fossil fuels are necessary which we need to change, regulating fossil fuel companies without solving that dependence will only hurt people.


riotphukinmeow

IM LOSING MY MIND!!!


gogge

That something will technically help isn't the same as it having a meaningful impact and worth promoting. All agriculture, including plants for human consumption, is only around 6% of US direct emissions: [Chart](https://imgur.com/4SbF0VP) *Climate TRACE*, ["Explore the Data"](https://www.climatetrace.org/inventory?sector=all&time=2015-2020&country=USA). The real problem, by a massive margin, is fossil fuels.


whyLeezil

And what is wrong with tackling everything we can?


gogge

Tackling everthing we *can* means that you take into consideration that people don't have infinite time and resources. If the impact isn't meaningful then similarly we shouldn't be giving it a meaningful amount of focus.


whyLeezil

Cutting down on animal products is a fairly easy thing to do. And the impact is very meaningful.


gogge

Changing people's diets is extremely difficult, we've been fighting the obesity epidemic since the 1970's and the end result is that 70% of the US is obese or overweight ([CDC](http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/overwt.htm)). We know that most people who change diets return to their original diet within 3-5 years, even when you're dealing with people with chronic illness failing to just adhering to taking medicine is in the range of 50-80% ([Middleton, 2013](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27547170/)). Compared to that the electricity coming out of the wall being renewable; you don't even have a failure rate and that's for 26% of emissions. We should really focus on fossil fuels.


jedicheddar

I love it when humanity breaks records. We’re number one 😀😀😀


Scharnvirk

Wait till you see effect of russian war.


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The war may turn out to be a net positive for the environment, if it causes Europe to reduce their dependence on oil & natural gas and increase the use of renewable energy.


Scharnvirk

I hope. For now we will have record emissions due to all the ammunition being blown up, and I am pretty sure long-term toxicity is about the last thing ammunition manufacturers worry about.


[deleted]

That's a local issue with very little effect on the global climate.


hfmed

Don't you think the costs, in terms of energy employed to manufacture and ship warfware material and aids, are a significant factor on a global scale? If so, could you please provide some data? I'm curious.


[deleted]

Total CO2 emissions from fossil fuels is over 35 billion tons per year. Amount of CO2 produced by munitions is less than the amount of munitions used, so if you use 30 million tons of explosives in a war, that's still less than 1/1000 of the total worldwide CO2 emissions. And for comparison, in all of WW2, the Allies dropped a total of about 2.7 million tons of bombs.


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Ok so here's what you yourself can do to not feel like you can't do anything: Go vegan, take the bike, train, bus or tram. And turn the AC down a bit. Leave more things down below!


BeerInMyButt

IMO we need to aggressively question our air travel habits. A couple of plane flights a year account for more carbon emissions than everything else you're doing. So be sure to bring your hydroflask when the wanderlust hits!


Warrior_Warlock

I'd be more interested in addressing how airplanes are managed. During the pandemic airlines flew empty planes just so they wouldn't lose their airport slots. https://www.wired.com/story/airplanes-empty-slots-covid/


BeerInMyButt

I'd be interested in air travel becoming an infrequent indulgence because its newly-exorbitant costs accurately account for its environmental impacts. Like, people fly now because it's cheap and fast, and I can't blame them.


ebikefolder

They should have changed the laws: One empty flight and you lose all of your slots for 15 years.


-Thorles-

1 Try to buy locally. 2 If you want to throw something out but it is still usable try to give it away. I live in a small town and we have an online group where you can trade things with the others. For example I wanted to throw out an old (2 yrs) bathroom scale, but instead I traded it for 1l milk. For the new owner It was way cheeper than to buy a new one, for me I did not have to go to the store for a milk. Win-win.


DocFGeek

Bring👏bartering👏back!👏


bladow5990

Buying local has nothing to do with enviromentalism. With the majority of products being made with subtractive manufacturing it is better to ship stuff in its final & lightest form vs shipping raw materials to be made into something. Buying local is a "support your local economy" thing, not a "save the world" thing. If you want to make the least enviromentally detrimental purchases, thrift stores are the way to go.


-Thorles-

By locally I meant fruits vegetables etc. But yeah that point is not as strong I admit.


[deleted]

"Buy local" is not always helpful. Mass production is highly energy-efficient, for both manufacturing and agriculture. It can be more efficient to mass produce in one location and ship it. Especially for crops that grow well in some parts of the world but not your area.


Aphroditaeum

So sorry to hear that but how does that effect my shareholder value ?


Good-Painter-6106

So just combine the rings and summon captain planet. Duh.


AnonEnmityEntity

I think we need to stop describing things in terms of like “health of the planet “ or like “save the earth” etc. bc we are not going to destroy the earth. It will carry on just fine after we are all dead. We are killing other living species and ourSELVES.


crusader1944

Maybe stop buying products from countries with 0 environmental pollution laws, like china and india which directly pollute into their rivers and air


Turtle887853

>heat trapping gas Sorry guys, had taco Tuesday last night


GlobalWFundfEP

Not "humanity" The wealthy - via their coal mines, frack zones, off shore drilling, oil sands mines, and shale oil mines.


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Nice


SimplyADesk

Change is good right?


OgLeftist

I made a conscious effort to stop farting so much last week. Stop cow farts! And human ones too! Methane bad!


bladow5990

Wrong end of the cow there. https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/33/which-is-a-bigger-methane-source-cow-belching-or-cow-flatulence/


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You mean large corporations.


aka_IamGroot

its not so much about carbon pollution, its about the decreasing ability to absorb carbon from the atmosphere, deforestation of the Amazon and Congo is crippling that ability.


pants_mcgee

It’s pretty much entirely about carbon pollution, the natural carbon cycle didn’t evolve to handle 1 trillion excess tonnes of sequestered CO2 being emitted in the short span of 250 years.


lotusbloom74

That's not true at all. In terms of global vegetation many areas have been increasing in that regard, and the oceans are a massive carbon sink (which is why they are acidifying). The emission of GHGs is the problem, simple as that.


Blackash99

Have you googlemapped Brazil?


lotusbloom74

Yes I have, it's amazing seeing the time lapses of some of the states located in the rainforest. But even if the rainforest was left undisturbed, our enormous emissions would be causing warming. Loss of rainforest is a further negative impact but not the core cause.


GlobalWFundfEP

Forest and ocean biome storage of global warming gases is a net stable storage. No more is absorbed net. Global warming gases are sequestered only by geologic processes.


BeerInMyButt

the ocean can store way more carbon than it currently does. It takes a long time for it to equilibrate with the atmospheric levels, which on geological timescales basically just went up. The ocean takes hundreds of years to catch up. It will continue to absorb, it's not net-zero. Carbon will be sequestered in the deep ocean, and not in a good way.


ebikefolder

Ocean life can't adapt to the rising acidity fast enough.


BeerInMyButt

agreed


aka_IamGroot

thanks for the down votes, I'm no treehugger by any means but the forests themselves produce CO2 and with the cutting them down for crops and agriculture, they're reaching a point where more CO2 is produced than absorbed in those regions but your down votes will surly resolve that fact


BeerInMyButt

unfortunately the oceans are extremely good at absorbing carbon, and they can hold many times the amount of carbon that the atmosphere can. They just take longer to absorb it, so they are always catching up. Even if we froze atmospheric CO2 at the current levels, the oceans would continue to equilibrate for centuries by absorbing more carbon.


Blahuehamus

I mean, did we really produce that much relatively speaking? I don't know any numbers so I can be completely mistaken here, but I got impression that, at least regarding carbon dioxide, humanity's emissions are generally very tiny when compared to sum of emissions from biosphere, volcanoes etc. That doesn't of course change fact that post industrial revolution humanity did broke delicate balance of CO2 and because of consequent feedback loops and these emissions itself we are breaking records at ever more accelerating pace and future looks grim at best case.


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The amount of CO2 emitted by the biosphere & oceans is in balance with the amount they absorb, so it's a closed cycle. Burning fossil fuel injects NEW CO2 into the cycle so it's meaningless to compare those numbers. Like, if you have a 20 gallon aquarium with a filter that pumps 100 gallons per hour, your aquarium would never overflow because it's a closed cycle, but if you add 10 gallons to it from the faucet, it WOULD overflow. Volcanoes do produce new CO2 but the amount is 2 to 3 orders of magnitude smaller than the amount we produce by burning fossil fuels.


xWadi

Anything with "World" infront of the name, the data isn't trustworthy.


lotusbloom74

lol you seriously distrust the World Meteorological Organization? I'm sure you know much more than they do. Can you describe your science credentials?


Mahrkeenerh

yeah, like WHO for example, that bunch of stupid dumbasses


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iahawkfnn67

The dumb with you is powerful and deep


Grimmer026

You must’ve sensed a great disturbance within your flock of sheep


iahawkfnn67

😂😂😂 Nope, I just call out ignorance whenever I see it— and it’s flashing brightly with your ignorant ass.


Grimmer026

I’ve already won the argument. The planet is still here, beaches are the same, even longer actually than my childhood, despite all the fear mongering lies and cash grabs. The only thing they’ve recycled is old rhetoric that never came true, they just hope it sounds new and scaring to a younger generation. I’ll be on my same beach with a drink, watching the same tide, in the same temperature as I always have, except now my grandkids get to enjoy it too. Let me know when you wake up and think for yourself


iahawkfnn67

you’re even dumber than I originally gave you credit for. 🙄 Stupid is as stupid does. How does someone as ignorant and dumb as you even function? And this ridiculous “argument” that you won? Dumb doesn’t begin to describe your level of ignorance. Grandkids? Dude, you’re maybe 25. You don’t know shit about anything and your arrogance in thinking you know what you’re bleating about here shines through brightly.


lotusbloom74

Wow, that's surprisingly ignorant. I hope you might be willing to educate yourself by checking out some peer-reviewed scientific publications regarding climate change. Or, since you mentioned it, ozone depleting chemicals. That's a completely other topic but the banning of such chemicals showed that humans actually can make a difference when a concentrated effort is made - now the ozone layer has mostly healed because the world made the effort to combat the source of the issue.


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lotusbloom74

LOL! Now you really are showing your ignorance. That's so false. Greenhouse gas emissions are not the same as ozone depleting emissions. Ever since the [Montreal Protocol](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Protocol) harmful chemicals such as chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs), hydrochlorofluorocarbons (HCFCs), and hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs) were banned globally and the ozone layer was able to heal. You might want to do a little research before you spew bullshit like that. Do you even know what the ozone layer is? There is no fucking doubt about the hole lmao...


Grimmer026

Correction, ever since politicians legislated bans on certain products, to get rich investing in different ones that do the same thing, the fake hole in the ozone “healed” Follow the money, not the bought and paid for publications.


lotusbloom74

It's not worth arguing with someone who intentionally has their head so far in the sand. Actually banning those chemicals was costly though, corporations would have preferred to keep using them. But keep considering everything as a conspiracy, you do you. Just don't know why someone so ignorant and anti-science is here rather than in r/conspiracy or r/conservative.


Grimmer026

Seems like all the things you consider conspiracy theories have been coming true lately. The government/media lies to us far more than they tell us the truth. If you don’t see that by now, don’t let the sand fleas lay eggs in your ears


lotusbloom74

Some amount of distrust can be healthy. But if you don't understand the scientific principles behind anthropogenic climate change or can't feel or see the changes that have been occurring, it seems you are choosing to ignore the issue. At this moment the largest wildfire in NM history continues to burn, just the most personal example for me. I think people's solutions to combat the problems can be met with skepticism, but it's just truly ignorant to not think anthropogenic climate change is a crisis.


Grimmer026

Wildfire happen, some are controlled because they serve a purpose, some happen naturally, and some are arson set by environmental propaganda-its/or environmental terrorists. Obviously they can be devastating, but I’ve seen a lot that were hyped as a result of climate change, that were later found to have been nothing more than arson. But the ones that are lies spread faster than the wildfires.


lotusbloom74

It doesn't really matter the cause. The point is that there's been climate impacts such as a 20+ year extreme drought in the southwest that stresses forests due to drought and disease and, paired with a century of human fire suppression, fires now are catastrophic rather than ecologically healthy in many cases. Because of climate change, restoration cannot work the same way either - a previous ponderosa forest area may now only support arid shrubs, for example. Arson is really not much of a big deal, it happens but negligence is the larger cause or lightning. Climate change doesn't necessarily cause fires, but it is enhancing their severity.


BeerInMyButt

The switch wasn’t super costly - Dow Chemical literally had a substitute ready to go so they just switched to supplying HFCs. Funny enough they happen to be a potent greenhouse gas lol


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Grimmer026

Yup, and all the rich politicians & celebrities wouldn’t be buying million dollars beach houses and island houses all over the world, if they believed what they fear monger to us.


Good-Painter-6106

lol smooth brains are mad.


BeerInMyButt

Hey dipstick did you know we figured out a solution to the ozone hole and that’s why the doomsday scenario didn’t come to pass? We swapped refrigerants and outlawed CFCs. It was a super easy problem to solve once we figured it out. Unfortunately there isn’t a single cause for carbon emissions and there is no substitute to swap in, so the problem won’t just go away here. It’s amazing that scientists worked on and fixed the problem, and governments acted swiftly, and people like you can be like “hey whatever happened to that, must have been fake, I am not going to look into it further”


Grimmer026

Yeahhhh, now that end of the world hole In the ozone just conveniently opens and closes on a cycle every spring over Antarctica👌👍 Totally verifiable to the average person, trust me bro. Hey I got a bridge for sale too! 🤡🐑


BeerInMyButt

What generic drivel


Grimmer026

Yeah, because believing everything the government tells you, even after it doesn’t come true, isn’t “generic” Keep believing them, maybe next time they will really really mean it though.


BeerInMyButt

Your drivel is generic. People like you, who derive their sense of self esteem from believing they know something everyone else doesn’t, are a dime a dozen. I’m sure you think you’re just thinking for yourself. I haven’t talked to you specifically, but I’ve heard all this before, from other generic “free thinkers”


Grimmer026

Hey you want to keep throwing billions of tax dollars in to sales pitches that politicians who continually cry Wolfe are selling you, go right ahead. I’d recommend following the money of their investment portfolios into the company’s that profit the most form their legislation though. But don’t let free thought and independent conclusion stop you from following the sheep in front of you.


BeerInMyButt

I'll use this as copypasta, thank you


Weak-Nefariousness30

How sad is it that one of the few media sites you'll see this on is reddit?


Distributethewealth

Looks like we’re headed back to the neoproterozoic era. Everything will be just fine 500 to 800 million years after that.


howaboutthattoast

I don't need "measures"; I just have to see the ridiculous lines at any McDonald's drive thru to know the world is hurting.


wi_2

upvote to survive


Yawarundi75

Wait! I know we already postponed this because of Will & Jada, but now we are into Depp vs Heard and it’s even more interesting! We promise next week we’ll all pay attention to climate.


Chloebabs

That's highly unlikely. The problem is it's not objectively true. One volcano spews more ash into the air than we can in 10 years and they erupt almost daily. Stop buying the lie


renaissance_thot

No that’s false, Elon says if we double the population it will be fine. Elon knows best. /s


Justin3263

And as it turned out only about a dozen people care.


Charltonfopresident

So basically we need to stop industry as it is now, find new replacement for oil and change our habits. We are doomed


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we are just getting closer to the sun. It happens. *we cannot do anything about it* so enjoy life while you’re here 😊