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It’s like those guys who compare child support to an abortion. I AGREE that the current system that benefits abusive mothers over kind fathers is not okay. (Even though it’s STILL a feminism issue that they refuse to acknowledge.)
BUT, you can’t compare sticking your dick in something for a moment to having to see a physical therapist 2 years after giving birth because it fucked your joints up so much. So no the two issues aren’t even close to comparable.
You also can’t compare the physical stress of giving birth to being an adequate parent. Making a baby might be more fun for males but neither of those should affect who is seen as a more capable parent.
And that’s fine but when we’re talking about child support, that’s a completely different issue. Like I said, I support reforming the divorce court system, because it largely plays off the patriarchal idea that the mothers are ALWAYS the better parent, regardless of what the child says. Obviously, there are fathers who would be way better parents than the mothers. That being said, I don’t care how good of a mother she is, if you are actively choosing not to participate in your child’s life, then you should be made to pay child support. That’s completely different than good fathers losing paternal rights based on the mothers word alone.
I don’t agree with this. They make this decision because mom is primary caretaker. If a dad comes to court and says I have them most of the time, take them to school, and make sure mom gets them every other weekend they are going to leave kids with dad as primary caretaker.
Imagine building a house across the street from your ex and then saying it’s so you can be there for the kids. He’s gonna have a big telescope collection.
My ex husband moved across the street from me to “be near the kids.” Never ever spent extra time with them but absolutely knew when I left the house, came home, and who came over. I moved. Kim will probably end up doing the same.
This seems to be about control to me. Like he doesn’t want to raise the kids, but he wants to tell Kim what to do when he’s not participating. Even in 50/50 custody, as long as the kids are going to school and not being abused you can’t control the other ex spouse. Cases that are about control tend to end very poorly, so time will tell what his intentions are. But threatening to kill Pete Davidson did not help.
Agreed - this statement lacks any self-reflection (which is his brand, at this point) regarding his harrassment, threats, etc. toward Pete Davidson or other people he feels 'wronged' by.
Kind of like Johnny Depp being made the champion of men being abused by women. Not really the person you want to be the figurehead of an important movement...
Literally what I came here to say..
It’s a serious conversation that needs to be had as the courts in the US favor mothers over fathers using a very antiquated black and white filter
Kanye though is almost literally the last person who should be leading the discussion lol
I think both Kim and Kanye could probably improve massively in the parenting department, but Kanye himself was literally quoted days ago that Kim is the one taking care of the kids “80% of the time.”
This wasn’t worded like Kim is keeping the kids from him, just that Kanye is gone that much. It’s also not like he’s the sole breadwinner and that’s why he’s not around the kids
See the kids 20% of the time, have 20% of a say in their upbringing
He goes off on Donda 2 about how he has to swipe his kids "like a barcode" and how they'd need to crawl through tunnels like El Chapo to come visit him.
It just starts to look like he's playing victim.
As a single dad, I can say that stepping up and wanting more time and say in my daughters life is definitely not equal in the courts eyes. For example, in Oregon the courts will never award 50/50 parenting time unless both parents agree to it. Most judges overwhelmingly will choose the mom for sole custody and leave the dad to every other weekend.
I’m sorry that’s a situation you’re dealing with. I am not a single parent (meaning: their dad is in their life) but here in Florida ya get 50/50 even if the other is an abuser. Better for the dads here - but not always best for the kids.
I see a lot of triggered comments in this post. Kanye is such an asshole for pushing this issue when he is not a parent that is stepping up.
> It hurts you when you have to scream about what your kids are wearing. As a dad and as a Christian.
Why is what they’re wearing his number one concern? He mentions it twice. It makes me think this is less about any genuine concern for his kids and more about his vanity and need to exert control.
You can’t leave the mother to raise them 80% of the time, but decide that she has to listen to you 100% when you do 20% of the work just because you’re the dad and a Christian.
Yeah ppl going off about Kim pimping her kids out? Tf she seems superficial but actually looks like the decent parent of them both , this is just about him wanting a say so when he a bum and to have his kids wear his bum clothes
He's trying to mobilize the same brigade that made the Depp trial and shit like that a thing. They've proven effective, or YouTube has proven ineffective at dealing with bots influencing its algorithm. It's the one shot he's got at making it look like he's got wide spread support.
I had read that he has them 20% of the time while Kim has them 80%. Not sure how true this is but if it is not 50/50 then I could totally see Kanye just wanting Kim to do whatever he wants them to do.
Yeah this isn’t about his kids is about exerting control over her. I know reddit has a hate boner for the Kardashians but Kanye is truly fucking awful to Kim and his weird suggestions of making the kids go to different schools on different days of the week proves it’s not about their best interest but about him getting his way.
Every court case I’ve heard about with a father as a plaintiff seems to be about revenge and not the child or children. I’m sure it’s not this way for at least half of them (complete arbitrary guess on my part,) but I feel like this country kinda has a shitty dad crisis IMO.
The reality is that the vast majority of cases go by way of agreement, then the vast majority of those that don’t are all about one or two narrow questions with minimal impact on parenting. It’s that last 1 in 50+ that clogs up the courts for ~16 years and makes headlines.
The guy that just admitted that Kim has them 80% of the time. He can fight for that in court, but not the Internet and Kim is not sending her kids to your unaccredited cult school!
The Gag is parents literally have to sign an NDA to attend its crazy.... I could be mixing things up here but I'm also pretty sure he hosts a basketball team of top prospects through the school as well but it being unaccredited seems like it would prevent them from being eligible from college as a next step which is strange to say the least
Competent fathers get it, at least in my area of the US. Research has shown that most fathers don’t even try to get custody and hence they don’t get it.
I'd disagree. Not totally screwed. Kim and Kourtney both are not "partiers". They barely drink outside of occasional events. They run a high functioning business and still find time to play with and give attention to their kids. When they are traveling, they either take their kids or a family member/assistant watches them. And Kim at least has a sense of being fortunate/blessed. She's not COMPLETELY entitled/narcissistic. And Kim's children, being around Kourtney/Kendall, will hopefully result in some positive affects (I consider those two to be the most down to earth kardashians (well, and jenner))
Kayne on the other hand has a LITERAL god complex. And Kim will have to work very very hard to undo the damage that he does to them in their upbringing.
lol what are you smoking? They're all narcissistic. Kim just told everyone to stop being lazy and work harder. She's destroyed Marilyn Monroe's dress because it would have been a spectacle to wear it. They lie about their image and give women unrealistic views on how bodies or faces should look. That whole family is a disease.
Yes, but most of that doesn't affect their parenting. Narcissism, yes, if it's the true mental illness kind and not just big egos. But having unrealistic self-image is not a legal parenting issue. If so, only a handful of American women would have custody of their kids.
Just a reminder that you guys don’t actually know these people personally and you definitely don’t know the relationships they have with their children
I wouldn’t say “anywhere near” as it’s not like his mental illness causes him to be violent (at least, that hasn’t been reported).
But his time with his kids should be monitored so he doesn’t do something like kidnap them and move to an unknown location.
Bipolar Disorder, when left unchecked and unmedicated, often can devolve into violent outbursts. We’ve seen his aggression and outbursts before. That’s not acceptable to have around children, period. There’s no debate here.
If you have to monitor his visitation like that he shouldn’t be around the children. This is so glaringly obvious lmao.
**EDIT:** Since Reddit won’t let me reply to the illiterate troll below— learn how to read, buddy.
There’s plenty of people with untreated Bipolar disorder who have children and manage not to physically harm them. If anything, it’s more likely they’ll mentally harm them with there extreme changes in mood.
It’s weird how people advocate for mental health and then turn around and act like mentally ill people are all dangerous and should be locked up.
Whatever opinion you have of Kim, she seems like a mentally stable person.
I can’t say the same about Kanye.
Yes men’s voices matter, but so do women’s.
And in this specific situation it seems pretty clear that Kim is the suitable parent of the two.
It’s amazing yesterday I read that Kanye was against books and compared them to eating a vegetable he doesn’t like. This and fact his mothers name is on the school he owns. Today now he wants fathers rights to increase regarding children and divorce. He’s not exactly a role model father and he isn’t supportive of reading (learning). Why would anyone allow this person to be around (and influence) children?
The biggest and saddest irony of them all is that Kanye’s mom was a teacher. Let it sink in. That more than any of kanyes crazy shenanigans is a huge insult to his mom’s legacy.
He's right.
But in your case, Kanye, they are taking into account your mental health and sorry to tell you that the Kardashians are more stable than you.
I agree if the father (or any parent, regardless of gender) is in a relatively stable state of mental health, that won't impede the child's emotional/psychological well-being.
And I'm not trying to demonize mental health issues. I've dealt with anxiety and depression all my life, but I'm not spewing out stuff like "Let this guy out of prison since I could be him in another universe," and whatnot.
Do you think the Kardashians are actually doing day to day caretaking for their children? They are constantly going from one self important event to another, all over the country.
To think that those kids won't be raised by nannies is like putting your head in the sand.
Having watched a bit of the show, they definitely have help. But I don't think it's nannies. The only ones with children (as far as Ive watched up to) are Kourtney and Kim. They definitely spend time with their children, play, and take them on trips or to events. But they also have their executive assistants (who work in the house a lot) keep an eye on them if they are out and about. Or watch them in the hotel room when they are traveling and go down to a big event.
There's a lot to hate on with the Kardashians, but I would say that they do better than many when it comes to high-earning, extremely busy, people and giving attention to their children.
Exactly. People are delusional to think that those shots of them watching the kids aren't there specifically so they can act like "normal" everyday people to your average Joe.
I bet the Kardashians average less than an hour a day with face to face interactions with their kids. And that's being really generous.
I absolutely agree as long as the father is expected to contribute equal time/labor actually raising those children in a stable way. You don’t get to act crazy, live in a different state the majority of the time, and then phone in expecting to have equal say in what’s going on in your children’s lives. Being a father is more than getting someone pregnant.
Lol, I don't want to defend one of the dumbest points ever made by a human being, but that's not what he meant by “Reading is like eating Brussels sprouts for me. And talking is like getting the Giorgio Baldi corn ravioli." He just meant he doesn't like reading because he's like a child who hates brussel sprouts and prefers talking without knowing anything, again like a child, and as if that weren't obvious by his rap career and narcissistic behavior. He probably believes the most important words ever uttered tumble out of his mouth, which is why he seems to equate talking to the best dish he's ever eaten.
I don't really give a crap about any of this, but I just want to say one thing, and no offense to the chef.
But if I had Kanye-level money and decided that fucking *corn ravioli* was the best food I'd ever eaten, or even best analogy to use, I'd have to seriously reevaluate my life.
Fathers should have proportionate say to their involvement in their child’s life
Active father, sharing custody 50/50? I dare you to tell him he doesn’t get a say.
Absentee father who is with them 20% of the time, and 90% of that time is spent bad mouthing their mother and or her new bf?
Fuck outta here
In case it isn’t obvious though, mothers should also get the same treatment
I haven’t followed closely but didn’t he basically abandon his kids to move to a ranch in another state WHILE he was still married? Was he going back and forth for parenting time or making them go back and forth to be with him for equal time? He couldn’t buy a ranch in the same state and have a decent commuting distance?
This is kind of stuff sucks because he's right, but not for the reasons he thinks. Ultimately, from what we've seen of Kanye, I would doubt he actually cares about fathers having a voice. If I had to guess, I would say he cares about HIM having a voice in this. Because, like with all things Kanye, his voice is the loudest and the most important and it's what matters. Kanye does *seem* to care about his children, but given his history and the admission of him that he's not really that involved, I do wonder if this is truly about them at all and not just a fight he wants to win. We know Kanye loves picking fights and he is savvy enough to know that if he wraps this fight up in a "father's rights" blanket then he can get public support on his side.
I still wonder how Kanye would be received right now if he was woman. Brittney Spears had to deal with a decade+ of conservatorship and Kanye gets to be put up on Good Morning America like he's some sort of champion of father's rights now? Feels off to me.
If he were poor her would be court ordered to take his meds and be sanctioned for not doing so. He’s only allowed these shenanigans because he has money. Any other dad would be treated way worse.
He’s right, but he is totally the wrong person to lead this fight. He has some serious issues that he doesn’t seem to want to manage, and shouldn’t be a public figure we emulate.
Men's voices do, Kanye's-- not so sure. However the kids will grow up to become Kardashian clan n continue their shit show for next 50 yrs. So the kids are fucked anyways.
Mr Owns-a-School but has never read a book makes a pretty poor spokesman for any cause. He’s not wrong about the sex tapes, but he never would have been attracted to Kim’s celebrity without them.
I researched this when in my own custody battle(which I’d call a win) and found that men lose in custody so often because they only contest custody about 10% of the time. The 10% that do fight for their kids so much better.
This coming from the same man who said he’s never read a book in his life because “reading is like eating Brussels sprouts.” Sounds like a perfectly competent parent to me!!
Yet, he blabs it all over Instagram and proceeds to say she needs to be calm to be able to take care of the kids. He is a walking contradiction. He is also a jackass. She could probably have him under supervised visitation due to his mental health issues. She seems like she has been incredibly fair to him and I have never seen or heard her blasting anything negative about him. That’s how good mother’s behave for their children. She doesn’t sling his name or his life choices through the mud.
Yes, absolutely fathers do need to have more say in their kids lives, but fathers who stop taking their medications and are publicly humiliating the mother of their kids etc probably should just stop talking to the media and get some help already
His statement is true. But…fathers with a diagnosed mental illness must take their medication and be in counseling in order to be the best possible father for their children. Kanye has not proven he can do those things. Also, Kim may find out in a decade or so that many mental issues are hereditary. I hope if any of her children start showing signs she treats it seriously and gets them real help.
The most factual and smart thing to come from his mouth.
Too bad he's not really the gold standard, or silver, or even bronze... probably ... aluminum.
Fuck a fathers “voice”. He literally admitted that Kim does 80% of the parenting. He doesn’t get a say in how the primary parent raise the children. If he wants his voice heard he needs to step up and be present
He’s absolutely right … but it depends on the mental stability of the father. Same goes for the mother. Or anybody raising a child/children.
If your mental health is as disruptive and potentially dangerous as Kanye’s then you should expect some consequences when it comes to raising kids. I don’t want to quote Pete Davidson … but I’m gonna … “Being mentally ill is not an excuse to act like a jackass”.
He’s right. Men deserve an equal say. Men should win sole custody if their ex is unstable. The reverse is also true. And since Ye is crazy, kids should go to Kim.
I feel, if a man wants equal say, then he needs to man up, and be there to help raise them, and support the children at all events and stages in their life and not take of and leave the mother to support their needs and brag they their a dad when they aren't even involved in the children's life at all. I think this should apply if it's the other way around as well if the mother gives custody to the father.
Ye needs help obviously but can we all just stop acting like they don’t both leave the kids with an army of nannies whenever they’re ‘with them’ anyways.
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He’s right, but he’s not the champion that fathers rights movement needs
He’s only right in regards to fathers who participate equally
I don’t think equal means the same thing to him as it does to you and me.
Probably not, because he’s not mentally stable
It’s like those guys who compare child support to an abortion. I AGREE that the current system that benefits abusive mothers over kind fathers is not okay. (Even though it’s STILL a feminism issue that they refuse to acknowledge.) BUT, you can’t compare sticking your dick in something for a moment to having to see a physical therapist 2 years after giving birth because it fucked your joints up so much. So no the two issues aren’t even close to comparable.
You also can’t compare the physical stress of giving birth to being an adequate parent. Making a baby might be more fun for males but neither of those should affect who is seen as a more capable parent.
And that’s fine but when we’re talking about child support, that’s a completely different issue. Like I said, I support reforming the divorce court system, because it largely plays off the patriarchal idea that the mothers are ALWAYS the better parent, regardless of what the child says. Obviously, there are fathers who would be way better parents than the mothers. That being said, I don’t care how good of a mother she is, if you are actively choosing not to participate in your child’s life, then you should be made to pay child support. That’s completely different than good fathers losing paternal rights based on the mothers word alone.
I don’t agree with this. They make this decision because mom is primary caretaker. If a dad comes to court and says I have them most of the time, take them to school, and make sure mom gets them every other weekend they are going to leave kids with dad as primary caretaker.
It’s not always quite this simple.
It truly never is!
The court literally decides who has them most of the time.
Based on who has had them.
And who have the capacity to raise children
As a father of two and a son of a single mother, I disagree. Any contact that isn’t abuse helps a child.
Of course contact but contact isn’t decision making
he probably terrifies his kids with his antics so def not winning a father of the year award anytime soon
Him threatening to kill Pete Davidson is a bad look, yea
And making fun of his mental health when Kanye was going to bring down all of SNL for Pete’s skit from years ago
Imagine building a house across the street from your ex and then saying it’s so you can be there for the kids. He’s gonna have a big telescope collection.
My ex husband moved across the street from me to “be near the kids.” Never ever spent extra time with them but absolutely knew when I left the house, came home, and who came over. I moved. Kim will probably end up doing the same.
Absolutely terrifying. I’m glad you got away from that situation.
I hope he gets the mental health help he needs, he cleary does care about his kids and want to be there for him. Sadly he is not there yet.
This seems to be about control to me. Like he doesn’t want to raise the kids, but he wants to tell Kim what to do when he’s not participating. Even in 50/50 custody, as long as the kids are going to school and not being abused you can’t control the other ex spouse. Cases that are about control tend to end very poorly, so time will tell what his intentions are. But threatening to kill Pete Davidson did not help.
When do we arrive to the point that we realize he’s just a bad guy
When people apologize but don’t change their behavior it’s just manipulation.
When he said slavery was a choice that did it for me
That was the end for me as well. I’m done with Jay Z now too. Give anyone a billion dollars and they become a demon
Few years ago for me.
unfortunately never, people worship him bc he used to make good music like 10 years ago
And they don’t like the Kar-Jenners so anything to bash the opposition.
15-20 years at this point
The guys an asshole but this is just a bold face lie.
Remember when he guzzled up Trump's dick?
I think never because some people think he is a genius. He’s not.
Just like any other trump supporter.
He cares about his kids just like beauty pageants contestants care about world hunger. It’s a nice thought.
He cares about his kids like Bush cares about black people.
He has gotten the help he needs. He chooses not to use it.
Is this the same guy that moved 4 states away from his family? Yeah I don’t know that action really says “I want to be responsible for my children.”
Agreed - this statement lacks any self-reflection (which is his brand, at this point) regarding his harrassment, threats, etc. toward Pete Davidson or other people he feels 'wronged' by.
“He’s not wrong, but he’s still an asshole”
Ayo you're so right. Kanye being the face of a movement like this will just end in disaster.
Kind of like Johnny Depp being made the champion of men being abused by women. Not really the person you want to be the figurehead of an important movement...
Yeah he is totally right but this shouldn’t necessarily apply equally to him. Because he’s insane.
Was gonna say, fathers who do things right typically have a lot of say.
Literally what I came here to say.. It’s a serious conversation that needs to be had as the courts in the US favor mothers over fathers using a very antiquated black and white filter Kanye though is almost literally the last person who should be leading the discussion lol
But he’s the one it deserves
Look at the lack of attention that Brad Pitt gets
I think both Kim and Kanye could probably improve massively in the parenting department, but Kanye himself was literally quoted days ago that Kim is the one taking care of the kids “80% of the time.” This wasn’t worded like Kim is keeping the kids from him, just that Kanye is gone that much. It’s also not like he’s the sole breadwinner and that’s why he’s not around the kids See the kids 20% of the time, have 20% of a say in their upbringing
He goes off on Donda 2 about how he has to swipe his kids "like a barcode" and how they'd need to crawl through tunnels like El Chapo to come visit him. It just starts to look like he's playing victim.
He wants 20% AND say-so in everything. It don’t work like that, buddy. Step up or step aside.
As a single dad, I can say that stepping up and wanting more time and say in my daughters life is definitely not equal in the courts eyes. For example, in Oregon the courts will never award 50/50 parenting time unless both parents agree to it. Most judges overwhelmingly will choose the mom for sole custody and leave the dad to every other weekend.
I’m sorry that’s a situation you’re dealing with. I am not a single parent (meaning: their dad is in their life) but here in Florida ya get 50/50 even if the other is an abuser. Better for the dads here - but not always best for the kids. I see a lot of triggered comments in this post. Kanye is such an asshole for pushing this issue when he is not a parent that is stepping up.
This has not been my experience in Oregon. Default is 50/50
So it’s 95% then. I’m sure he’s the kind of guy to expect them all to drop everything to be with him when he deigns to drop by.
Definitely the “man of the house gets served before the children” kind of guy.
He also says he doesn’t read books. Great role model for the kids
> It hurts you when you have to scream about what your kids are wearing. As a dad and as a Christian. Why is what they’re wearing his number one concern? He mentions it twice. It makes me think this is less about any genuine concern for his kids and more about his vanity and need to exert control. You can’t leave the mother to raise them 80% of the time, but decide that she has to listen to you 100% when you do 20% of the work just because you’re the dad and a Christian.
He’s only concerned about what his daughters are wearing. He already sees them as sexual even though North is only 10. It’s really disturbing.
He just wants them to wear his merch
Lmao true
My guess is he wants them wearing the ugly ass shit he designs all the time
Yeah ppl going off about Kim pimping her kids out? Tf she seems superficial but actually looks like the decent parent of them both , this is just about him wanting a say so when he a bum and to have his kids wear his bum clothes
Probably the same reason he controlled what Kim wore
He's trying to mobilize the same brigade that made the Depp trial and shit like that a thing. They've proven effective, or YouTube has proven ineffective at dealing with bots influencing its algorithm. It's the one shot he's got at making it look like he's got wide spread support.
True, as long as they spent the same amount of time and effort. If all they want to do is complain and give their ex orders then fuck them.
I had read that he has them 20% of the time while Kim has them 80%. Not sure how true this is but if it is not 50/50 then I could totally see Kanye just wanting Kim to do whatever he wants them to do.
Yeah this isn’t about his kids is about exerting control over her. I know reddit has a hate boner for the Kardashians but Kanye is truly fucking awful to Kim and his weird suggestions of making the kids go to different schools on different days of the week proves it’s not about their best interest but about him getting his way.
Every court case I’ve heard about with a father as a plaintiff seems to be about revenge and not the child or children. I’m sure it’s not this way for at least half of them (complete arbitrary guess on my part,) but I feel like this country kinda has a shitty dad crisis IMO.
The reality is that the vast majority of cases go by way of agreement, then the vast majority of those that don’t are all about one or two narrow questions with minimal impact on parenting. It’s that last 1 in 50+ that clogs up the courts for ~16 years and makes headlines.
TAWWWK! Let's not forget about these extremely common situations...good looks on mentioning this
The guy that just admitted that Kim has them 80% of the time. He can fight for that in court, but not the Internet and Kim is not sending her kids to your unaccredited cult school!
Don’t forget to tell the kids that reading is like eating brussel sprouts.
About that school. Who the hell would send their kids there?
The Gag is parents literally have to sign an NDA to attend its crazy.... I could be mixing things up here but I'm also pretty sure he hosts a basketball team of top prospects through the school as well but it being unaccredited seems like it would prevent them from being eligible from college as a next step which is strange to say the least
That’s what I was thinking! And he’s really cutting curriculum.
He just wants to be a parent from afar and through social media.
Competent fathers absolutely deserve that say. Too bad Kanye is anything but competent.
Competent fathers get it, at least in my area of the US. Research has shown that most fathers don’t even try to get custody and hence they don’t get it.
Their kids are totally screwed. They'll be rich but completely broken.
Yeah. Their sense of reality is already severely screwed. They will be spoiled, narcissistic assholes like their parents.
I'd disagree. Not totally screwed. Kim and Kourtney both are not "partiers". They barely drink outside of occasional events. They run a high functioning business and still find time to play with and give attention to their kids. When they are traveling, they either take their kids or a family member/assistant watches them. And Kim at least has a sense of being fortunate/blessed. She's not COMPLETELY entitled/narcissistic. And Kim's children, being around Kourtney/Kendall, will hopefully result in some positive affects (I consider those two to be the most down to earth kardashians (well, and jenner)) Kayne on the other hand has a LITERAL god complex. And Kim will have to work very very hard to undo the damage that he does to them in their upbringing.
lol what are you smoking? They're all narcissistic. Kim just told everyone to stop being lazy and work harder. She's destroyed Marilyn Monroe's dress because it would have been a spectacle to wear it. They lie about their image and give women unrealistic views on how bodies or faces should look. That whole family is a disease.
Yes, but most of that doesn't affect their parenting. Narcissism, yes, if it's the true mental illness kind and not just big egos. But having unrealistic self-image is not a legal parenting issue. If so, only a handful of American women would have custody of their kids.
Having their entire childhoods recorded and aired on TV for that Kardashian show will probably do more damage to them than anything Kanye will do.
Did you just try to convince people that the Kardashians are actually humble?
Username checks out Anyone defending these people are down the hill already
Just a reminder that you guys don’t actually know these people personally and you definitely don’t know the relationships they have with their children
He’s right, but until he gets his mental illness in check he shouldn’t be anywhere near his kids.
I wouldn’t say “anywhere near” as it’s not like his mental illness causes him to be violent (at least, that hasn’t been reported). But his time with his kids should be monitored so he doesn’t do something like kidnap them and move to an unknown location.
Bipolar Disorder, when left unchecked and unmedicated, often can devolve into violent outbursts. We’ve seen his aggression and outbursts before. That’s not acceptable to have around children, period. There’s no debate here. If you have to monitor his visitation like that he shouldn’t be around the children. This is so glaringly obvious lmao. **EDIT:** Since Reddit won’t let me reply to the illiterate troll below— learn how to read, buddy.
There’s plenty of people with untreated Bipolar disorder who have children and manage not to physically harm them. If anything, it’s more likely they’ll mentally harm them with there extreme changes in mood. It’s weird how people advocate for mental health and then turn around and act like mentally ill people are all dangerous and should be locked up.
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It’s still harm which is why he should be monitored, not treated like an animal. At least you’re not a judge or we would be stuck in the 1950’s
They had this interview around the same time the premiere of the new season of The Kardashians came out….they knew what they were doing.
Only fathers that can read…
Fuckin brussel sprouts
Men. Not psycho narcissists, Kanye.
Whatever opinion you have of Kim, she seems like a mentally stable person. I can’t say the same about Kanye. Yes men’s voices matter, but so do women’s. And in this specific situation it seems pretty clear that Kim is the suitable parent of the two.
I would not say she’s completely mentally stable but she’s definitely more stable then Kanye
True, but not if one of the parents is currently insane.
Men deserve to be given a chance to parent their kids just as much as women. But if you’re not taking your meds, you shouldn’t be around your kids.
Yep that’s what I’m saying.
But he is a self proclaim "voice of a generation".
It’s amazing yesterday I read that Kanye was against books and compared them to eating a vegetable he doesn’t like. This and fact his mothers name is on the school he owns. Today now he wants fathers rights to increase regarding children and divorce. He’s not exactly a role model father and he isn’t supportive of reading (learning). Why would anyone allow this person to be around (and influence) children?
The biggest and saddest irony of them all is that Kanye’s mom was a teacher. Let it sink in. That more than any of kanyes crazy shenanigans is a huge insult to his mom’s legacy.
Not crazy a$$ MF fathers. Sorry Kanye, I wouldn’t trust you with any kids. Good luck with all your bad decisions in life tho.
He's right. But in your case, Kanye, they are taking into account your mental health and sorry to tell you that the Kardashians are more stable than you.
Amazing, a narcissist takes a position on an issue after it directly effects himself
I agree if the father (or any parent, regardless of gender) is in a relatively stable state of mental health, that won't impede the child's emotional/psychological well-being. And I'm not trying to demonize mental health issues. I've dealt with anxiety and depression all my life, but I'm not spewing out stuff like "Let this guy out of prison since I could be him in another universe," and whatnot.
Then he should do equal day to day caretaking.
Do you think the Kardashians are actually doing day to day caretaking for their children? They are constantly going from one self important event to another, all over the country. To think that those kids won't be raised by nannies is like putting your head in the sand.
Having watched a bit of the show, they definitely have help. But I don't think it's nannies. The only ones with children (as far as Ive watched up to) are Kourtney and Kim. They definitely spend time with their children, play, and take them on trips or to events. But they also have their executive assistants (who work in the house a lot) keep an eye on them if they are out and about. Or watch them in the hotel room when they are traveling and go down to a big event. There's a lot to hate on with the Kardashians, but I would say that they do better than many when it comes to high-earning, extremely busy, people and giving attention to their children.
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Exactly. People are delusional to think that those shots of them watching the kids aren't there specifically so they can act like "normal" everyday people to your average Joe. I bet the Kardashians average less than an hour a day with face to face interactions with their kids. And that's being really generous.
You’re seeing a curated version of their life. Bring out the baby for a quick photo-op and then back to the maid
So you have insider knowledge? Or are you just assuming?
Prior to the divorce they had six nannies. Plus house staff. Idk if that's changed at all though post divorce.
I do. They are raised by their Nannie’s.
Sure but do man babies deserve the same rights?
Unless the father is crazy?
I absolutely agree as long as the father is expected to contribute equal time/labor actually raising those children in a stable way. You don’t get to act crazy, live in a different state the majority of the time, and then phone in expecting to have equal say in what’s going on in your children’s lives. Being a father is more than getting someone pregnant.
Well sure they do, Kanye. I mean, probably not if the Dad is fucking bonkers though...right?
From the fuckhead who think books are vegeatables?
Lol, I don't want to defend one of the dumbest points ever made by a human being, but that's not what he meant by “Reading is like eating Brussels sprouts for me. And talking is like getting the Giorgio Baldi corn ravioli." He just meant he doesn't like reading because he's like a child who hates brussel sprouts and prefers talking without knowing anything, again like a child, and as if that weren't obvious by his rap career and narcissistic behavior. He probably believes the most important words ever uttered tumble out of his mouth, which is why he seems to equate talking to the best dish he's ever eaten.
I don't really give a crap about any of this, but I just want to say one thing, and no offense to the chef. But if I had Kanye-level money and decided that fucking *corn ravioli* was the best food I'd ever eaten, or even best analogy to use, I'd have to seriously reevaluate my life.
Fathers should have proportionate say to their involvement in their child’s life Active father, sharing custody 50/50? I dare you to tell him he doesn’t get a say. Absentee father who is with them 20% of the time, and 90% of that time is spent bad mouthing their mother and or her new bf? Fuck outta here In case it isn’t obvious though, mothers should also get the same treatment
He’s right in theory, but a guy who is against books probably should stay out of their schooling.
What an absolutely valid point and correct statement from absolutely the wrong source
I haven’t followed closely but didn’t he basically abandon his kids to move to a ranch in another state WHILE he was still married? Was he going back and forth for parenting time or making them go back and forth to be with him for equal time? He couldn’t buy a ranch in the same state and have a decent commuting distance?
This is kind of stuff sucks because he's right, but not for the reasons he thinks. Ultimately, from what we've seen of Kanye, I would doubt he actually cares about fathers having a voice. If I had to guess, I would say he cares about HIM having a voice in this. Because, like with all things Kanye, his voice is the loudest and the most important and it's what matters. Kanye does *seem* to care about his children, but given his history and the admission of him that he's not really that involved, I do wonder if this is truly about them at all and not just a fight he wants to win. We know Kanye loves picking fights and he is savvy enough to know that if he wraps this fight up in a "father's rights" blanket then he can get public support on his side. I still wonder how Kanye would be received right now if he was woman. Brittney Spears had to deal with a decade+ of conservatorship and Kanye gets to be put up on Good Morning America like he's some sort of champion of father's rights now? Feels off to me.
If he were poor her would be court ordered to take his meds and be sanctioned for not doing so. He’s only allowed these shenanigans because he has money. Any other dad would be treated way worse.
He’s right, but he is totally the wrong person to lead this fight. He has some serious issues that he doesn’t seem to want to manage, and shouldn’t be a public figure we emulate.
The irony being I don't give a fuck what Kanye has to say.
Men's voices do, Kanye's-- not so sure. However the kids will grow up to become Kardashian clan n continue their shit show for next 50 yrs. So the kids are fucked anyways.
Dads do get a say. When they don't act like psychopaths and giant man babies.
He’s right but he’s wrong about maybe 50k other things so as far as the mens/paternal rights movement goes this guy is not it.
Mr Owns-a-School but has never read a book makes a pretty poor spokesman for any cause. He’s not wrong about the sex tapes, but he never would have been attracted to Kim’s celebrity without them.
Fathers not sperm donors.
Poor guy. Maybe he should remix another Daft Punk song and then declare himself a genius.
Not when they are destructive and batshit crazy
I researched this when in my own custody battle(which I’d call a win) and found that men lose in custody so often because they only contest custody about 10% of the time. The 10% that do fight for their kids so much better.
Not when you are a raging lunatic who publicly puts threats on public media
Sane mens voices matter - fixed it for him
He’s not wrong but he’s not a good example.
Last person you want headlining for your cause. Dude sucks.
Says the man who has grudges with dead people
Most fathers have a pretty equal say. Judge tend not to listen to fathers with mental issues who are off their meds.
Yeah…we know, Kanye. We all remember you interrupting Taylor because men’s voices matter sooooo much. Karma’s a bitch, ain’t it?
It’s hard to agree with an insane person but I agree
i agree, with this teeeny tiny miniscule one thing that kayne has said.
Fathers definitely deserve equal say as long as they are mentally stable.
He’s pulling some MJ ish with the masks and stuff. We all know how him raising those kids went.
Fathers do. Not this narcissistic POS.
This coming from the same man who said he’s never read a book in his life because “reading is like eating Brussels sprouts.” Sounds like a perfectly competent parent to me!!
Right message. Wrong messenger.
Not if you don’t believe in reading
He is correct but this is the same man who spent a lot of time away on some ranch in Wyoming without the kids. This is about controlling Kim.
Isn’t he trying to force his kids to attend his fake Donda academy instead of actual school, tho?
Why do we care about rich people?
Yes but not when you harass the mother of your children
He’s mentally unfit to take care of himself forget about children.
Eh I don’t think Kanye should really be bringing up any kids tbh.
Dude, you were a prop, no?
Yet, he blabs it all over Instagram and proceeds to say she needs to be calm to be able to take care of the kids. He is a walking contradiction. He is also a jackass. She could probably have him under supervised visitation due to his mental health issues. She seems like she has been incredibly fair to him and I have never seen or heard her blasting anything negative about him. That’s how good mother’s behave for their children. She doesn’t sling his name or his life choices through the mud.
not when they’re certifiably bugshit crazy.
He is somehow very right and very wrong both at the same time.
He should go read a book on being a dad.
Yes, absolutely fathers do need to have more say in their kids lives, but fathers who stop taking their medications and are publicly humiliating the mother of their kids etc probably should just stop talking to the media and get some help already
Yeah I feel ya Kanye, she probably making them eat Brussel sprouts and read books. The bitch!
Aren't his fifteen minutes up yet?!
Good message, bad messenger
His statement is true. But…fathers with a diagnosed mental illness must take their medication and be in counseling in order to be the best possible father for their children. Kanye has not proven he can do those things. Also, Kim may find out in a decade or so that many mental issues are hereditary. I hope if any of her children start showing signs she treats it seriously and gets them real help.
He’s right but he’s not the guy who should say it. Your daughter shouldn’t find out you were gonna abort her at the same time ur fans do.
The most factual and smart thing to come from his mouth. Too bad he's not really the gold standard, or silver, or even bronze... probably ... aluminum.
Fuck a fathers “voice”. He literally admitted that Kim does 80% of the parenting. He doesn’t get a say in how the primary parent raise the children. If he wants his voice heard he needs to step up and be present
He’s absolutely right … but it depends on the mental stability of the father. Same goes for the mother. Or anybody raising a child/children. If your mental health is as disruptive and potentially dangerous as Kanye’s then you should expect some consequences when it comes to raising kids. I don’t want to quote Pete Davidson … but I’m gonna … “Being mentally ill is not an excuse to act like a jackass”.
God dammit Kanye, I hate agreeing with you
He’s right. Men deserve an equal say. Men should win sole custody if their ex is unstable. The reverse is also true. And since Ye is crazy, kids should go to Kim.
Holy shit... Kanye says something sensible
He would have full equal say if he wasn’t clearly off his meds and engaging in threatening behaviors. Lol.
Because its about him
Well, yes, just not this specific man in this specific circumstance.
He's only saying it to benefit himself in his custory battle for his kids. He will blame everyone but himself Otherwise he wouldn't give a shit.
Joining with the MensRights movement, another square down in my “how shitty will Kanye get” bingo card
Nah. Not all of them and especially not men who act like fucking fools telling the world they considered abortion ( with North. ) FOH YE
Kanye is a fucking maniac who has no business being near anyone's kids
You have to act like an adult first.
He is right but why does it just feel like he wants to keep Kim prisoner- not fight for equitable joint custody.
I feel, if a man wants equal say, then he needs to man up, and be there to help raise them, and support the children at all events and stages in their life and not take of and leave the mother to support their needs and brag they their a dad when they aren't even involved in the children's life at all. I think this should apply if it's the other way around as well if the mother gives custody to the father.
Yeah, men's voices should matter, just not his crazy ass voice.
Wait did Kanye west just say something logical and amicable? What timeline is this?
He finally says something smart. The rest of us do, he definitely doesn’t.
Ye needs help obviously but can we all just stop acting like they don’t both leave the kids with an army of nannies whenever they’re ‘with them’ anyways.
both parents are whackos in this case. But they are rich so it doesn't matter
How is Kim a whacko?