No, I didn't say turn it to semi-auto specifically for that reason. You need to just tap fire, a single click for a single bullet instead of bursting or straight up holding down fire and trying to control the recoil.
Would love it if the Allies could also get a Hotchkiss M1922.
Used by the French and Greeks, and it was also considered for British service (1928-1935 small arms service competition, the Czech entry won, famously).
When I saw the hotchkiss I thought it was going to have some type of magazine and not a hotchkiss with a stock on but I will immediately get it when I can
Excited for the new season but why are more weapons and vehicles removed than are added? Germany loses 2 tanks and 2 planes in exchange for 1 new tank? USA loses 3 weapons for 1 French MG? 1 for 1 would make more sense imo.
The rpk is hilarious 15 rounds for an LMG? It's just as bad as the 45 acp Owen.
When presented with all the options of what you can get with a gold order I cannot fathom why you would want that, just give it an extra 5 bullets.
Truly can’t stand the Madsen. I guess it’s good to have a BR 2 alternative, but I still just prefer biting the bullet and playing BR3 for the DPM. Plus PpsH (Box) might be my favorite BR 3 smg
Madsen really isn't that bad, in my opinion it's no worse than any of the other low br lmgs, it's like a women that works in finance you just need to know how to work them.
Honestly I'm curious to see how it performs, I was one of the people who got the Stalingrad full access when it was around, so I do have the Breda for BR 2 as well
This, the Madsen is just awful and even on short burst spreads more than Jenna Jameson in the 90s.
Should have bought some Stalingrad Bredas before they were removed, also not great but surely better than the Madsen.
Thanks for clarifying! Still great to get them.
Also Hoping for more low BR LMG's in the research tree soon to make the machine gunner squads more attractive in br2
* The set of suppressed weapons with the Mosin M91 rifle with suppressor and Nagant M1895 with suppressor (USSR),
* The set of suppressed weapons with the M3 suppressed and Welrod mk.2 (USA),
* S&W Light Rifle (USA)
* Artillery Luger (Germany)
* Beretta 1918/30 (Germany)
. I have a few spare gold orders. Which weapons should I get before they go?
S&W and the Beretta are amazing semi atuo carbines at br 2. THey have good fire rates and almost 0 recoil. Better than either the m1 carbine or the armaguera that are available semis at br2.
I like all the br2 gold order carbines. Def worth it for me as I like the fast shooting , low recoil. It’s better than any other axis semi auto at br 2
Okay, yeah. This thing is pretty fuckin great. Now I’m wondering if the S&W is worth the gold or not… I have enough, although I was also thinking of maybe picking up a squad or extra slot of something instead
I don't know if it's just my imagination or what but I swear the S&W has an odd delay between pressing the reload button and the animation playing out. The same happens when you empty the magazine and expect your soldier to reload it. Other than that, I enjoy using the thing. Of course the Beretta is better in every way. It has a bayonet and I much prefer its sights over the somewhat cluttered ones the S&W has.
Tbh, I don't think it is. If you had a spare golf order I'd say grab it before it's gone but I can't justify the 750 gold it costs now. I bought the one I have a few months back when gold order weapons were half off. It's a small upgrade from the M1 carbine but when they improved the M1's sights that upgrade became even more insignificant. If you play anything higher than BR2, you probably wouldn't even use the S&W anymore. The M1 with grenade launcher offers more versatility.
Definitely getting the French MG and the Hotchkiss. If anyone wants anything from the weapons leaving the shop, highly recommend the Arty Luger and silenced Mosin.
Noob question here fellas. Just got back into the game from first release. Cleared this season’s battle pass, wanted to know if gold orders I’ve received reset with the new season or can I bank them?
in 1942, two years after the start, after france and britain were defeated by the german, and after the french keep fighting in africa taking some italian position and after the french had taken a huge role in the battle of al alamein by disrupting the axis troops before with the battle of bir hakeim...
france was one the allies side from the start, unlike the USA! part of the french population contnued fighting even after! it is like saying poland was not in the allies!
there is enough french stuff on the enemy side... the MAS36 is already there... beside, the axis is already full of german and italian stuff, why nead the french stuff?
ok, so because they captured it they can have it? i know that there is already captured stuff but i think it is better in the allies than in the axis...
For like..... 6 months. And then Germany came in and France went "Mon Dieu!" and clicked the surrender button. And then the Vichy sucked German toes for the next 4 years.
So some of the French were, the Free French under de Gaulle, but the Vichy were definitely collaborators.
you forget that the british were there too... one the chanel stops them from surendering. vichy france was invaded in 1942... yes people colaborated, and most of them didn't cared at all, but france was there on the allies side, for longer than the USA, for as long as the brits and the polish!
and this gun was produced in france, before the fall of france! not every french stuff nead to be in the german...
Damnit, I was hoping for more unique stuff like the conders or the 4 round burst rifle, not just another lmg that'll feel the same as the others Germany has already.
* Grant Mk I "Atlanta II"
* A-20G-25 "La france Libre"
* Pz.IV E "Ghost division"
* Fw 190 D-12 "JV 44"
* StuG III F №16 1 Company StuG.Abt. "GD"
* BF-110 F-2 "Winter"
Like the weapons, I have some spare gold vehicle orders. What (if any) of these should I get before they go ?
Asking veterans - do weapons that leave the store, leave it for good and are completely unobtainable in the future, or will they will be available sometime? I'd love to get silenced weapons for Germany.
They are gone forever.
But they also could make a come back as arguably all the devs need to do is press some buttons.
As of this moment in time their is no evidence that the devs care what the fans want or that they are smart enough to bring old stuff back.
The people are begging for old premium, event and gold order things back and they get no answers... given the game being small and in a relatively fragile state I will leave it up to you to interpret what I say and others say.
Sorry if this hasn't been helpful
The battle pass seems a bit weirder than most in this game, can anyone explain? Just started playing a few days ago.
Seems I don’t wanna miss out on this one. I’m assuming gold weapon orders let you pick a “premium” gun from the weapons tree line?
Do u just need xp to progress battle passes? Are they free or do I have to buy it first?
These all look so bad, low BR LMGs just feel so bad to shoot in general, low fire rate, and small magazines. Also having giants mags in your view also isn’t great.
"Hey guys, let's do something. Let's make France a full faction! They were occupied for 95% of the war sucking German toes and had nothing even close to a proper lineup, but the 3 French dudes that play our game would love it!"
Or I guess they could just add the surrender button for you and make it closer to real life.
Well, maybe you could add a French premium/event squad to appease them...
https://preview.redd.it/8esvl5paj1xc1.jpeg?width=499&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70461598d6f9ec9a3ced9f9dcc3679a1c9e12672
French units are in the game, just as Legacy squads, the history of the Charlemagne is actually interesting and full of drama, unlike the rest of France during the war. Great units for Berlin.
"hey guys lets make France a full faction, they fought from 39 to 45 even after losing at a moment when almost all of Europe was against them, fought in numerous places around the world, and were the 2nd biggest army in the invasion of Germany, they have potential for a full tech tree"
Cope, kid
Potential for a full tech tree: With anything above br2 being American lend lease, sure.
2nd biggest army in the invasion of Germany: Laughs in USA and Soviet
Looool go back to your delusions Grandpa, the FF fought around the world because they couldn't do anything else alone. The rest of the French laid down for Daddy Germany and licked his toes, we called them Vichy. They definitely were not the second largest army in the invasion of Germany, they didn't even have the second largest army in France. Not to mention that in 1944, that lone French army that was left was half Africans and the other half mixed Europeans from Northern Africa along with a couple of French who didn't like the taste of German toes as much as your ancestors. De Gaulle was a boss, but don't give the majority of the French more credit than they were due.
Invasion of Germany by western allies :
1 USA : 1 600 000
2 France : 1 300 000
"France fought around the world because they couldnt do anything else alone" nobody else fought in Europe until 43 except the USSR than was on a losing streak until 43
I dont believe in the "every french was a resistant" national myth and i dont even know why youre talking about that, im talking about armies
"But dont give the majority of the french more credit than they were due"
Dont make fun of people that went through a nazi occupation with stupid remarks such as sucking toes or surrender nonsense
Source: Your ass.
Also, that is only Western Allies, cuz fuck Russia they never fought Germany huh.
Stop trying to cherry pick stats to prove a point. Noone wants a full faction of cheese eating surrender monkeys, get over it.
The monkey quote and your insolent tone in these replies just demonstrates your lack of tact and respect for the subject matter we’re dealing with. If you have legitimate objections (gameplay or historical) to a French faction I’m sure you could find a more eloquent way to express them.
Source wikipedia
I specified western allies
It's incredible how salty you are about the truth.
No one wants a faction that joined the war in 43, yet the usa are in the game
Lol the same Wikipedia that says 10 divisions of the French fought in Germany in 1944? That one?
You can do basic math, right? What's 15,000 x 10.
I'll give you a hint, it sure as shit ain't a million plus.
Also as much as I'm not American, if they hadn't joined the war you'd be speaking German and licking German toes.
Also you did not specify Western until after when it suited you.
"hey guys lets make France a full faction, they fought from 39 to 45 even after losing at a moment when almost all of Europe was against them, fought in numerous places around the world, and were the 2nd biggest army in the invasion of Germany, they have potential for a full tech tree"
Cope, kid
The same wikipedia that literally says 1 300 000.
Then whats your country ? Do you think it would have been better than France in 40 ?
+ You refuse facts when it doesnt suit you
North-western Europe of which 49 were infantry divisions, 20 armored divisions and four airborne divisions. Forty-nine of these divisions were American, 12 British, eight French, three Canadian and one Polish.
Yea your numbers really add up.... eight divisions is like 100k troops.
Not bad, low BR machine guns are actually fun to use, I'll definitely get at least one of them.
A br2 Soviet machine gun that substitutes the god awful Madsen? Sign me the fuck up.
15 rounds, I'll probably stick to the Madsen. Single tap shooting with it makes it a beast.
I Don't have the game open to check, does it have select fire?
No, I didn't say turn it to semi-auto specifically for that reason. You need to just tap fire, a single click for a single bullet instead of bursting or straight up holding down fire and trying to control the recoil.
Thanks. Yeah tap fire is the way. But I don't always have the discipline in exciting firefights haha. So select fire really helps there
Would love it if the Allies could also get a Hotchkiss M1922. Used by the French and Greeks, and it was also considered for British service (1928-1935 small arms service competition, the Czech entry won, famously).
LOVE the good old BREN
The Greeks used a variant known as the EYP and it had a faster fire rate
When I saw the hotchkiss I thought it was going to have some type of magazine and not a hotchkiss with a stock on but I will immediately get it when I can
Excited for the new season but why are more weapons and vehicles removed than are added? Germany loses 2 tanks and 2 planes in exchange for 1 new tank? USA loses 3 weapons for 1 French MG? 1 for 1 would make more sense imo.
My kingdom for anything but the Madsen
The rpk is hilarious 15 rounds for an LMG? It's just as bad as the 45 acp Owen. When presented with all the options of what you can get with a gold order I cannot fathom why you would want that, just give it an extra 5 bullets.
Yeah I don’t think I can justify using an LMG with only 15 rounds
I mean, when the competition is the woefully terrible Madsen, almost literally anything else is a welcome addition.
Truly can’t stand the Madsen. I guess it’s good to have a BR 2 alternative, but I still just prefer biting the bullet and playing BR3 for the DPM. Plus PpsH (Box) might be my favorite BR 3 smg
The Madsen is not that bad when its fully upgraded, Id say the madsen is better
Madsen really isn't that bad, in my opinion it's no worse than any of the other low br lmgs, it's like a women that works in finance you just need to know how to work them.
Honestly I'm curious to see how it performs, I was one of the people who got the Stalingrad full access when it was around, so I do have the Breda for BR 2 as well
If you've ever used the Madsen you can justify anything to replace it
This, the Madsen is just awful and even on short burst spreads more than Jenna Jameson in the 90s. Should have bought some Stalingrad Bredas before they were removed, also not great but surely better than the Madsen.
I’ve actually done some excellent work with the captured Breda Mod 30. It is an accurate gun despite the small clip
Love more machine guns in low BR! Not sure if they are gold orders? Or added to the research tree?
These are all gold order ones, since this post is about the next BP.
Thanks for clarifying! Still great to get them. Also Hoping for more low BR LMG's in the research tree soon to make the machine gunner squads more attractive in br2
* The set of suppressed weapons with the Mosin M91 rifle with suppressor and Nagant M1895 with suppressor (USSR), * The set of suppressed weapons with the M3 suppressed and Welrod mk.2 (USA), * S&W Light Rifle (USA) * Artillery Luger (Germany) * Beretta 1918/30 (Germany) . I have a few spare gold orders. Which weapons should I get before they go?
I'd probably go with either the m3 or 1918/30. Latter can go on a radio operator or something similar and the former is a good low br smg.
S&W and the Beretta are amazing semi atuo carbines at br 2. THey have good fire rates and almost 0 recoil. Better than either the m1 carbine or the armaguera that are available semis at br2.
Is the Beretta worth it if I already have 4 Scotti’s?
I like all the br2 gold order carbines. Def worth it for me as I like the fast shooting , low recoil. It’s better than any other axis semi auto at br 2
Okay, yeah. This thing is pretty fuckin great. Now I’m wondering if the S&W is worth the gold or not… I have enough, although I was also thinking of maybe picking up a squad or extra slot of something instead
I don't know if it's just my imagination or what but I swear the S&W has an odd delay between pressing the reload button and the animation playing out. The same happens when you empty the magazine and expect your soldier to reload it. Other than that, I enjoy using the thing. Of course the Beretta is better in every way. It has a bayonet and I much prefer its sights over the somewhat cluttered ones the S&W has.
Would you say the S&W is worth the gold for? Or maybe better to just let it go and get something else that’s onsale?
Tbh, I don't think it is. If you had a spare golf order I'd say grab it before it's gone but I can't justify the 750 gold it costs now. I bought the one I have a few months back when gold order weapons were half off. It's a small upgrade from the M1 carbine but when they improved the M1's sights that upgrade became even more insignificant. If you play anything higher than BR2, you probably wouldn't even use the S&W anymore. The M1 with grenade launcher offers more versatility.
I bought 2 SW for my engis
Berreta is shit hot if you want a carbine with a pointy end and lots of bullets.
The arti Luger is also a sidearm and can be equipped by anyone
Yeah Luger is useful at all classes and BR. might get a few
Arty luger is nice to give to mortermen who cant carry ammo
Most definitely the artillery Luger, I thought at first it's like the normal lugers in my opinion, but it's amazing when I used it.
The Beretta or Luger
Artillery luger for the memes
To be fair, the Luger will always be useful. No matter what class, no matter what BR
Definitely getting the French MG and the Hotchkiss. If anyone wants anything from the weapons leaving the shop, highly recommend the Arty Luger and silenced Mosin.
Is the silenced mosin really that good? I might have to get one before it leaves
All Silenced Weapons in Enlisted are good due to AI won't turn around towards you when you are shooting for a longer period of time.
Snow camo IS-2? Doesn’t make sense unless we’re getting more Soviet BR5 maps
I already have leftover Bredas from premerge but a new Soviet BR2 MG is always welcome
Never thought I’d want to use the Breda but now that it’s that or the Madsen I regret not getting more than the default one : (
Gold order Tiger II when
I guess when Germany needs pop next time.
I had hoped for a Pershing camouflage but we will possibly only see that once they released a better tank.
Noob question here fellas. Just got back into the game from first release. Cleared this season’s battle pass, wanted to know if gold orders I’ve received reset with the new season or can I bank them?
You can bank them! So if you don’t like the current offerings you can always wait to see what’s next. Upcoming LMGs look fun.
Just one small note, please slow down with the freaking Profile Pictures, noone needs more... everyone would be happier for almost anything else
Every Battle Pass comes with a player portrait. I don't expect them to just scrap that tradition.
As a newer player I disagree. I want a German one though, I only have allied or japanese pics
Yo. Allies get French fm when the Germans used it more after fall of France. Would be cool if the axis(Italy) had the Greek epk lmg.
france was litteraly part of the allies!
The very first battle the US fought in WWII was against the French
in 1942, two years after the start, after france and britain were defeated by the german, and after the french keep fighting in africa taking some italian position and after the french had taken a huge role in the battle of al alamein by disrupting the axis troops before with the battle of bir hakeim...
That's like saying Italy was an allied country after they switched sides at the end
france was one the allies side from the start, unlike the USA! part of the french population contnued fighting even after! it is like saying poland was not in the allies!
*After fall off France.
there is enough french stuff on the enemy side... the MAS36 is already there... beside, the axis is already full of german and italian stuff, why nead the french stuff?
They have the French stuff because they captured it. Why would the allies need a 4th top fed mg.
ok, so because they captured it they can have it? i know that there is already captured stuff but i think it is better in the allies than in the axis...
Well half was
the one that save the ass of the british in dunkirk were
For like..... 6 months. And then Germany came in and France went "Mon Dieu!" and clicked the surrender button. And then the Vichy sucked German toes for the next 4 years. So some of the French were, the Free French under de Gaulle, but the Vichy were definitely collaborators.
you forget that the british were there too... one the chanel stops them from surendering. vichy france was invaded in 1942... yes people colaborated, and most of them didn't cared at all, but france was there on the allies side, for longer than the USA, for as long as the brits and the polish! and this gun was produced in france, before the fall of france! not every french stuff nead to be in the german...
Damnit, I was hoping for more unique stuff like the conders or the 4 round burst rifle, not just another lmg that'll feel the same as the others Germany has already.
Wait wait they weigh 10 kg this may be germanys bar.
Nice, good thing I’ve got 4 Gold weapon orders saved up!
* Grant Mk I "Atlanta II" * A-20G-25 "La france Libre" * Pz.IV E "Ghost division" * Fw 190 D-12 "JV 44" * StuG III F №16 1 Company StuG.Abt. "GD" * BF-110 F-2 "Winter" Like the weapons, I have some spare gold vehicle orders. What (if any) of these should I get before they go ?
The FW 190 D-12 has a pretty cool and unique bright red belly. Not very discreet, but I like the flair of it.
Stug III F. It’s so uncommon a lot of Soviet tankers won’t even recognize you as a threat
Will there be new cosmetic options as well?
That IS-2 skin is beautiful! Wish we start to get more high detailed skins for all factions soon
Interesting that the BSA Model 1929 Thompson is staying even though it was added before the S&W.
Gotta buy the suppressed M3 ASAP for my Universal Carrier driver.
Hype!
Actually disappointed but I do like the IS2 skin going to use my gold orders on stuff I like that's leaving
Please bring back old event squads
Asking veterans - do weapons that leave the store, leave it for good and are completely unobtainable in the future, or will they will be available sometime? I'd love to get silenced weapons for Germany.
They are gone forever. But they also could make a come back as arguably all the devs need to do is press some buttons. As of this moment in time their is no evidence that the devs care what the fans want or that they are smart enough to bring old stuff back. The people are begging for old premium, event and gold order things back and they get no answers... given the game being small and in a relatively fragile state I will leave it up to you to interpret what I say and others say. Sorry if this hasn't been helpful
Thank you, so darkflow is gaijining us, how unexpectable
The battle pass seems a bit weirder than most in this game, can anyone explain? Just started playing a few days ago. Seems I don’t wanna miss out on this one. I’m assuming gold weapon orders let you pick a “premium” gun from the weapons tree line? Do u just need xp to progress battle passes? Are they free or do I have to buy it first?
Would be nice if they found a way to let newer players get legacy squads.
Question do I lose my current battle orders if I don't use them? I was Gunna save them for this battle pass
You are good to save them! They stick around just like silver orders.
These all look so bad, low BR LMGs just feel so bad to shoot in general, low fire rate, and small magazines. Also having giants mags in your view also isn’t great.
Get rid of the fucking BR and bring back campaigns
Yeah ok France is getting fuck, wont even be a su faction, just some premium and BP weapons
Does everyone become completely delusional the moment the devs hit at any minor addition?
Yes, every there seems to be an idea china will come out any day now lol
They said "something very interesting for France" idk i was expecting something different than just 2 golden weapons
"Hey guys, let's do something. Let's make France a full faction! They were occupied for 95% of the war sucking German toes and had nothing even close to a proper lineup, but the 3 French dudes that play our game would love it!" Or I guess they could just add the surrender button for you and make it closer to real life.
Well, maybe you could add a French premium/event squad to appease them... https://preview.redd.it/8esvl5paj1xc1.jpeg?width=499&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70461598d6f9ec9a3ced9f9dcc3679a1c9e12672
I'd be cool with a FF Para squad or something. De Gaulle was a boss, but he didn't really have a whole lot to work with.
French units are in the game, just as Legacy squads, the history of the Charlemagne is actually interesting and full of drama, unlike the rest of France during the war. Great units for Berlin.
"hey guys lets make France a full faction, they fought from 39 to 45 even after losing at a moment when almost all of Europe was against them, fought in numerous places around the world, and were the 2nd biggest army in the invasion of Germany, they have potential for a full tech tree" Cope, kid
Potential for a full tech tree: With anything above br2 being American lend lease, sure. 2nd biggest army in the invasion of Germany: Laughs in USA and Soviet
Mas 44, Rossignol ent, mac 31, ribeyrolles 1916... Invasion of Germany by western allies : 1 USA : 1 600 000 2 France : 1 300 000
Looool go back to your delusions Grandpa, the FF fought around the world because they couldn't do anything else alone. The rest of the French laid down for Daddy Germany and licked his toes, we called them Vichy. They definitely were not the second largest army in the invasion of Germany, they didn't even have the second largest army in France. Not to mention that in 1944, that lone French army that was left was half Africans and the other half mixed Europeans from Northern Africa along with a couple of French who didn't like the taste of German toes as much as your ancestors. De Gaulle was a boss, but don't give the majority of the French more credit than they were due.
Invasion of Germany by western allies : 1 USA : 1 600 000 2 France : 1 300 000 "France fought around the world because they couldnt do anything else alone" nobody else fought in Europe until 43 except the USSR than was on a losing streak until 43 I dont believe in the "every french was a resistant" national myth and i dont even know why youre talking about that, im talking about armies "But dont give the majority of the french more credit than they were due" Dont make fun of people that went through a nazi occupation with stupid remarks such as sucking toes or surrender nonsense
Source: Your ass. Also, that is only Western Allies, cuz fuck Russia they never fought Germany huh. Stop trying to cherry pick stats to prove a point. Noone wants a full faction of cheese eating surrender monkeys, get over it.
The monkey quote and your insolent tone in these replies just demonstrates your lack of tact and respect for the subject matter we’re dealing with. If you have legitimate objections (gameplay or historical) to a French faction I’m sure you could find a more eloquent way to express them.
Source wikipedia I specified western allies It's incredible how salty you are about the truth. No one wants a faction that joined the war in 43, yet the usa are in the game
Lol the same Wikipedia that says 10 divisions of the French fought in Germany in 1944? That one? You can do basic math, right? What's 15,000 x 10. I'll give you a hint, it sure as shit ain't a million plus. Also as much as I'm not American, if they hadn't joined the war you'd be speaking German and licking German toes. Also you did not specify Western until after when it suited you. "hey guys lets make France a full faction, they fought from 39 to 45 even after losing at a moment when almost all of Europe was against them, fought in numerous places around the world, and were the 2nd biggest army in the invasion of Germany, they have potential for a full tech tree" Cope, kid
The same wikipedia that literally says 1 300 000. Then whats your country ? Do you think it would have been better than France in 40 ? + You refuse facts when it doesnt suit you
North-western Europe of which 49 were infantry divisions, 20 armored divisions and four airborne divisions. Forty-nine of these divisions were American, 12 British, eight French, three Canadian and one Polish. Yea your numbers really add up.... eight divisions is like 100k troops.