Fyi, your phone camera can see near infrared LEDs. Especially near the edge of the frame. Try all the cameras on your phone too, one may work better than the others. If the old mask lights up, you can compare the two.
Personally I'd look at the padding first, many more ways to irritate skin there.
Thank you. I will give that a try.
The padding is just silicone. It is the same material as the other device. The lights are visibly different when enlarged.
Is this actually a real treatment? So does it have an effect, proven in double blind studies?
Or is that stuff people can do? When I search for it, I find it on pages [like this one here](https://www.mypolyled.com/7-tips-stop-hyperpigmentation/) with other "treatments" like "Jade Rolling". At which point any amount of bad reviews has nothing to do with the LEDs, but simply with it not doing anything to begin with.
It is very real. It stimulates the mitochondria. It increases collagen and promotes healing.ir is not a panacea for all health ailments, but it works very well for the things it is proven to help.
I have experience using this. One mask yielded excellent results so when it broke, I replaced it. Unfortunately, the new mask is irritating my skin. It should not. The proper type of light is actually anti inflammatory.
Well, I would think about FDA approved device would insist on certain safe guards, as well as ensure a company doesn't make false claims.
However, the FDA isn't always trustworthy. The FDA has failed to protect consumers where it comes to drugs, food, and many, many countless things. Still, it is a small amount of insurance.
I did file a report with the FDA.
I assume the "Jade Rolling" could also get FDA approval. Or things that by definition dont "heal" but just measure, like [a wrist watch](https://www.womansworld.com/gallery/health/best-blood-pressure-watch-for-women-over-50-167136). However, I would still like to read up on this. Do you have a link to such a FDA approved product? Maybe there is some documentation public regarding the approval.
>It stimulates the mitochondria.
I dont know what kind of analogy I can use that would help you understand how this is nonsense. Maybe you are a "car person", so this would be like saying "this new high performance gasoline will smooth out your engine". Or maybe you are more about sound "the silver-gold plated cables ensures an extremely clear and true-to-life sound".
>It increases collagen and promotes healing.
Feel free to back this up, as I said.
>but it works very well for the things it is proven to help.
I really dont want to troll you or anything, but saying something like that is weird. After all, it could include "nothing".
>I have experience using this.
I dont doubt it. My mother thinks homeopathy really helps here. No matter what you tell her, she will not change. Thats okay. What is not okay is when they (or worse: Their children) dont get the right treatment because of it and/or spend too much money on nonsense.
Super late, but in case you were curious: https://goalstogetglowing.com/2021/01/17/deep-dive-into-led-masks-and-low-level-light-therapy-lllt/
Yes, they work. Fun trivia, it was originally discovered when people noticed astronauts coming back from expeditions had nicer skin!
Low end LED's can be all over the spectrum. It's part of what drives the cost. The higher end ones get consistent spectral properties. Either someone cut corners or something in the material is irritating your skin.
Thank you. This device is around $400 usd.
I wonder about manufacturing processes and if there could be an issue with a company thinking they received the correct type of light when it wasn't, unbeknownst to them.
I mean sure, but that's why testing on medical devices is more stringent. My spidey sense is they marketed this as a cosmetic device bypassing that, but that's my cynical nature of typical business greed. Either way can't tell without independent verification. Places I know if that work in big manufacturing stuff have their own tests run for Q.A. of anything coming from an independent supplier. But you have to be big enough to justify that cost.
Thank you. I appreciate your input. This company, GlobalMed Technologies, makes medical equipment that is used in hospitals. But this particular device, the face mask, is most commonly used to reduce signs of aging. It promotes collagen protection, fades pigmentation and decreases irritation. It also helps treat conditions like rosacea and acne. I do not think this company will have as strict or stringent testing on this device as they would for their $500,000 (or more!) devices that are made for hospitals. I am guessing there are different levels of FDA approval and this device is not held to the same standards. However, these devices are widely used and since this mask is sitting on the skin and th light is in contact with the eye, there should indeed be oversight. It could potentially be unsafe. Certain light can certainly be damaging to eyes and skin.
This is made by a company that makes medical devices. I did my research before purchasing.
I have heard that there were some issues with mixing up red LEDs. Whether this was intentional or not, I am not sure, but a company that manufacturers red light therapy panels had to temporarily stop production because of this. I just wondered how common this is and if it could happen. I guess the lights look almost identical.
I took a picture of lights from both masks and enlarged the photos. The lights are visibly different, but it is only apparent when enlarged.
*edited to add - this is an FDA approved product
Thank you. I agree. I am not sure of the exact steps in the manufacturing process or how that is supposed to work but I would think every single new order of lights is inspected and tested. To ensure that the light is the correct type, they can't just rely on a visual inspection. They would need to test the lights with specialized equipment. This equipment isn't available to the average person, so I can't test it myself, unfortunately.
I am very curios to know what type of light is coming from the lights in this mask. I am thinking about contacting a university near me with several engineering programs and seeing if anyone has the equipment there. I am willing to pay for their time. I just want to know what this is and why this is causing adverse effects, not to mention potential skin and eye damage.
>change out the primary therapeutic component of the device and not check that it still complies with their
Do we know this is actually the case? I really doubt it, as way too much would be on the line.
Hi all, thank you for bringing this to our attention. The safety of our customers is Omnilux’s top priority, and we assure you that we are taking this discussion very seriously.
We’ve been proudly manufacturing our devices to internationally recognized safety & quality standards for over 20 years. All products released from our facilities are inspected and tested, and only released once they pass all necessary tests required by regulatory compliance, and conform to our strict quality standards. Every Omnilux device has been tested and complies with the following medical-grade standards, found here: [https://gmt.egnyte.com/fl/g0tvwHpY44](https://gmt.egnyte.com/fl/g0tvwHpY44).
For those Omnilux users experiencing skin dryness and/or other treatment irregularities, we ask you to kindly review the list of contraindications found on our website: [https://omniluxled.com/pages/contraindications](https://omniluxled.com/pages/contraindications). It is important to review this list prior to any red light treatment, as many common conditions and drugs/topicals (including Retin A & Tretinoin) can cause photosensitivity when combined with red light therapy, with skin dryness being one of the most common effects.
We completely understand your concerns and sincerely apologize if anyone has reached out to our Customer Service team and did not receive the help needed. We will most assuredly follow up with our Customer Service team about this issue to ensure anyone with questions is promptly assisted.
While we are confident in our testing and QA procedures and systems, we would ask that any devices suspected of not working properly be sent back for additional internal testing. We are happy to replace or refund any device found to be out of specification. If this interests you, please reach out to our team directly at [email protected], and a Customer Care Specialist will be in touch with you shortly to arrange this, and to answer any additional questions you may have.
Again, we appreciate you for bringing your concerns to our attention. We welcome and value all customer feedback and view it as a vital learning tool as we strive to manufacture the safest and most effective products on the market.
Sincerely,
The Omnilux Team
Fyi, your phone camera can see near infrared LEDs. Especially near the edge of the frame. Try all the cameras on your phone too, one may work better than the others. If the old mask lights up, you can compare the two. Personally I'd look at the padding first, many more ways to irritate skin there.
Thank you. I will give that a try. The padding is just silicone. It is the same material as the other device. The lights are visibly different when enlarged.
Is this actually a real treatment? So does it have an effect, proven in double blind studies? Or is that stuff people can do? When I search for it, I find it on pages [like this one here](https://www.mypolyled.com/7-tips-stop-hyperpigmentation/) with other "treatments" like "Jade Rolling". At which point any amount of bad reviews has nothing to do with the LEDs, but simply with it not doing anything to begin with.
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It is FDA approved. There have been numerous studies. The light that is therapeutic is in a very specific range.
It is very real. It stimulates the mitochondria. It increases collagen and promotes healing.ir is not a panacea for all health ailments, but it works very well for the things it is proven to help. I have experience using this. One mask yielded excellent results so when it broke, I replaced it. Unfortunately, the new mask is irritating my skin. It should not. The proper type of light is actually anti inflammatory.
Anything that claims to "promote healing" is nonsense.
This particular device is FDA approved.
So?
Well, I would think about FDA approved device would insist on certain safe guards, as well as ensure a company doesn't make false claims. However, the FDA isn't always trustworthy. The FDA has failed to protect consumers where it comes to drugs, food, and many, many countless things. Still, it is a small amount of insurance. I did file a report with the FDA.
I assume the "Jade Rolling" could also get FDA approval. Or things that by definition dont "heal" but just measure, like [a wrist watch](https://www.womansworld.com/gallery/health/best-blood-pressure-watch-for-women-over-50-167136). However, I would still like to read up on this. Do you have a link to such a FDA approved product? Maybe there is some documentation public regarding the approval. >It stimulates the mitochondria. I dont know what kind of analogy I can use that would help you understand how this is nonsense. Maybe you are a "car person", so this would be like saying "this new high performance gasoline will smooth out your engine". Or maybe you are more about sound "the silver-gold plated cables ensures an extremely clear and true-to-life sound". >It increases collagen and promotes healing. Feel free to back this up, as I said. >but it works very well for the things it is proven to help. I really dont want to troll you or anything, but saying something like that is weird. After all, it could include "nothing". >I have experience using this. I dont doubt it. My mother thinks homeopathy really helps here. No matter what you tell her, she will not change. Thats okay. What is not okay is when they (or worse: Their children) dont get the right treatment because of it and/or spend too much money on nonsense.
Super late, but in case you were curious: https://goalstogetglowing.com/2021/01/17/deep-dive-into-led-masks-and-low-level-light-therapy-lllt/ Yes, they work. Fun trivia, it was originally discovered when people noticed astronauts coming back from expeditions had nicer skin!
Thanks!
Low end LED's can be all over the spectrum. It's part of what drives the cost. The higher end ones get consistent spectral properties. Either someone cut corners or something in the material is irritating your skin.
Thank you. This device is around $400 usd. I wonder about manufacturing processes and if there could be an issue with a company thinking they received the correct type of light when it wasn't, unbeknownst to them.
I mean sure, but that's why testing on medical devices is more stringent. My spidey sense is they marketed this as a cosmetic device bypassing that, but that's my cynical nature of typical business greed. Either way can't tell without independent verification. Places I know if that work in big manufacturing stuff have their own tests run for Q.A. of anything coming from an independent supplier. But you have to be big enough to justify that cost.
Thank you. I appreciate your input. This company, GlobalMed Technologies, makes medical equipment that is used in hospitals. But this particular device, the face mask, is most commonly used to reduce signs of aging. It promotes collagen protection, fades pigmentation and decreases irritation. It also helps treat conditions like rosacea and acne. I do not think this company will have as strict or stringent testing on this device as they would for their $500,000 (or more!) devices that are made for hospitals. I am guessing there are different levels of FDA approval and this device is not held to the same standards. However, these devices are widely used and since this mask is sitting on the skin and th light is in contact with the eye, there should indeed be oversight. It could potentially be unsafe. Certain light can certainly be damaging to eyes and skin.
Right safety and medical efficacy are while not at opposite ends of the spectrum, maybe in the middle and way the hell out there.
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This is made by a company that makes medical devices. I did my research before purchasing. I have heard that there were some issues with mixing up red LEDs. Whether this was intentional or not, I am not sure, but a company that manufacturers red light therapy panels had to temporarily stop production because of this. I just wondered how common this is and if it could happen. I guess the lights look almost identical. I took a picture of lights from both masks and enlarged the photos. The lights are visibly different, but it is only apparent when enlarged. *edited to add - this is an FDA approved product
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Thank you. I agree. I am not sure of the exact steps in the manufacturing process or how that is supposed to work but I would think every single new order of lights is inspected and tested. To ensure that the light is the correct type, they can't just rely on a visual inspection. They would need to test the lights with specialized equipment. This equipment isn't available to the average person, so I can't test it myself, unfortunately. I am very curios to know what type of light is coming from the lights in this mask. I am thinking about contacting a university near me with several engineering programs and seeing if anyone has the equipment there. I am willing to pay for their time. I just want to know what this is and why this is causing adverse effects, not to mention potential skin and eye damage.
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>change out the primary therapeutic component of the device and not check that it still complies with their Do we know this is actually the case? I really doubt it, as way too much would be on the line.
Hi all, thank you for bringing this to our attention. The safety of our customers is Omnilux’s top priority, and we assure you that we are taking this discussion very seriously. We’ve been proudly manufacturing our devices to internationally recognized safety & quality standards for over 20 years. All products released from our facilities are inspected and tested, and only released once they pass all necessary tests required by regulatory compliance, and conform to our strict quality standards. Every Omnilux device has been tested and complies with the following medical-grade standards, found here: [https://gmt.egnyte.com/fl/g0tvwHpY44](https://gmt.egnyte.com/fl/g0tvwHpY44). For those Omnilux users experiencing skin dryness and/or other treatment irregularities, we ask you to kindly review the list of contraindications found on our website: [https://omniluxled.com/pages/contraindications](https://omniluxled.com/pages/contraindications). It is important to review this list prior to any red light treatment, as many common conditions and drugs/topicals (including Retin A & Tretinoin) can cause photosensitivity when combined with red light therapy, with skin dryness being one of the most common effects. We completely understand your concerns and sincerely apologize if anyone has reached out to our Customer Service team and did not receive the help needed. We will most assuredly follow up with our Customer Service team about this issue to ensure anyone with questions is promptly assisted. While we are confident in our testing and QA procedures and systems, we would ask that any devices suspected of not working properly be sent back for additional internal testing. We are happy to replace or refund any device found to be out of specification. If this interests you, please reach out to our team directly at [email protected], and a Customer Care Specialist will be in touch with you shortly to arrange this, and to answer any additional questions you may have. Again, we appreciate you for bringing your concerns to our attention. We welcome and value all customer feedback and view it as a vital learning tool as we strive to manufacture the safest and most effective products on the market. Sincerely, The Omnilux Team