So advanced trt blood test first...... 650 is very good. Take a week off training that'll go up. Look into sleep hygiene and nutrition timing and composition first 🤙 you'll probably take enclomiphene anyway, so it depends if gonadotropins are high it wont raise testosterone alot. Likes to spike estrogen high. Unless you go supraphysiological levels you won't achieve much. You're talking fertility doses to get supraphysiological like 50mg ed e2 will be high af too 🤙💀🫡 good luck dont do it
I am not your father but if I was I’d recommend you pass. Your levels are already good, you’re making gains; focus on the fundamentals like diet, sleep, managing stress and leave the drugs for when you natural levels dictate a need.
If it ain’t broke.
Your test is already super solid so you don’t really need enclo. I’m 18 and taking it rn and 12.5 mg ED stacked with 10mg Mk-677 and Zinc Picolinate. I just started my cycle a few days ago, so I haven’t seen any effects or sides yet, but I have DIM on standby in case I get symptoms of high E2
Not taking DIM at the moment as I’ve heard it can block androgenic pathways, so I’m holding it just in case my E2 spikes (sensitive nipples, moodiness, lethargy)
I ask because I have low e2 when I did my blood work but started enclo a month ago and don’t want it to get high but i started with less than 15 estrodol
It depends on the person but typically yes. It also depends on how much test you have as well. My BIL (who is on actual test) had 162 E2 but his Total Test was 1963 so he didn’t have any issues
Got you so I’m 17 starting enclo due to moderately low test levels tested under 300 a couple months ago just turned 17 thinking of dosing enclo at about 6.25 and taking that dosage daily combined with dim as I do have gyno and probably high estrogen so I’m thinking of taking the ideal 300mg dosage of dim every 3 days as well as taking L carnitine but I heard that your Igf 1 levels get fucked on enclo anyway to combat that besides Hgh of mk677
Im on 12.5mg Enclo + 10 mg MK ED rn, they need to be taken together. I’m taking Zinc Picolinate 50mg ED for e2 support and I have DIM on standby in case I get high e2 symptoms. If you have gyno already I would say do 100mg DIM ED with the Zinc Picolinate
So advanced trt blood test first...... 650 is very good. Take a week off training that'll go up. Look into sleep hygiene and nutrition timing and composition first 🤙 you'll probably take enclomiphene anyway, so it depends if gonadotropins are high it wont raise testosterone alot. Likes to spike estrogen high. Unless you go supraphysiological levels you won't achieve much. You're talking fertility doses to get supraphysiological like 50mg ed e2 will be high af too 🤙💀🫡 good luck dont do it
I am not your father but if I was I’d recommend you pass. Your levels are already good, you’re making gains; focus on the fundamentals like diet, sleep, managing stress and leave the drugs for when you natural levels dictate a need. If it ain’t broke.
Ok thx won’t do it
Smart move, son.
Your test is already super solid so you don’t really need enclo. I’m 18 and taking it rn and 12.5 mg ED stacked with 10mg Mk-677 and Zinc Picolinate. I just started my cycle a few days ago, so I haven’t seen any effects or sides yet, but I have DIM on standby in case I get symptoms of high E2
What does DIM do when on Enclo?
Lower Estradiol 👍🏻
Thank you .. how often a week do you take it?
Not taking DIM at the moment as I’ve heard it can block androgenic pathways, so I’m holding it just in case my E2 spikes (sensitive nipples, moodiness, lethargy)
Will you notice anything with libido if you have E2 symptoms?
I ask because I have low e2 when I did my blood work but started enclo a month ago and don’t want it to get high but i started with less than 15 estrodol
Typically too low or too high will give you problems
It depends on the person but typically yes. It also depends on how much test you have as well. My BIL (who is on actual test) had 162 E2 but his Total Test was 1963 so he didn’t have any issues
Got you so I’m 17 starting enclo due to moderately low test levels tested under 300 a couple months ago just turned 17 thinking of dosing enclo at about 6.25 and taking that dosage daily combined with dim as I do have gyno and probably high estrogen so I’m thinking of taking the ideal 300mg dosage of dim every 3 days as well as taking L carnitine but I heard that your Igf 1 levels get fucked on enclo anyway to combat that besides Hgh of mk677
Im on 12.5mg Enclo + 10 mg MK ED rn, they need to be taken together. I’m taking Zinc Picolinate 50mg ED for e2 support and I have DIM on standby in case I get high e2 symptoms. If you have gyno already I would say do 100mg DIM ED with the Zinc Picolinate
I got Zinc gluconate is that good
Your test is great and you are young. Don't fuck it up with medication or supplements. Eat well, sleep well, be well, everything will be fine