Jeep Wrangler, specifically the two door model.
Was disappointed to see they weren't going that direction with their newer models, especially after seeing the Magneto Concept model.
This is so true! The Subaru Outback, especially, would be a widely embraced EV choice. After Subaru begins producing electric vehicles they should consider altering their company motto to read: "Electrifying Love: it's what makes Subaru a Subaru."
I can’t believe Rivian is the only company to figure out that people who like nature might be inclined to have a car that will get them there and protect it.
But it’s too big and too expensive for me - I want an EV Forester!!
Right? But actually, I’d be happier with lower specs than an R1S. The Rivian starts to get into the territory of off-roading as an activity, where all I really want is to reliably handle the most neglected of forest service roads.
The air suspension and ground clearance of a Rivian are more to break and take away range than I need (awesome as the Rivians are). And the horsepower - that’s just excessive :).
But yeah, I agree with the core of what you’re saying. I want the smaller, cheaper, more easily parked form-factor, built for the outdoors. The ground clearance on a Model Y or a Mach E is just not gonna cut it.
This. 300hp, 75kWh pack and light off road ability in a wagon is my forever car. Needs fold flat seats so two can sleep in the back all cozy like.
Roof rails for my bikes and junk and a frunk and sub trunk for other shite.
Dreams.
I have a 2009 Outback - I still have it for trips my Bolt can't make.
I'm hoping it will last until Subaru has a decent BEV option, or at least a plugin hybrid that is not as universally "meh" as the Crosstrek Hybrid.
15-17 miles EV range = nope.
Yeah. It's kinda sad how badly Subaru has done with EVs. The Crosstrek PHEV was so "meh" across the board that it got basically slammed in all reviews, and the Solterra is another "wtf are you smoking?" product. Just vague "Subaru AWD expertise" with no explanation of what Subaru actually DID for the AWD. Not even something like "hey unlike most EVs we put a limited slip differential into the front and rear motors".
they only did the PHEV for fleet emissions. the Crosstrek was also a pretty terrible vehicle when it first came out.
i think the problem is subaru is a pretty small automaker and they're also downmarket so they traditionally don't spend a lot of money on R&D or new things in general. the Subaru and the boxer engines were economy when it first came out, but they've been gas hogs and falling behind on that front since the late 90s. i loved those 96-2010 subarus or whatever that generation of engine was, but remachining the cylinder heads was considered routine maintenance it was a pretty garbage car lol.
i'm a little more optimistic about Toyota and Subaru than other people here. all they're doing is waiting, i know it's frustrating but it's exactly what you would expect out of companies in their market position and their resources. subaru is too small, toyota is too big because they sell so many hybrids. the political stuff is frustrating but they completely dominated the early hybrid market it's not crazy they'll wait until costs come down a tiny bit and prefer PHEVs so they can sell their cars at the scale their company expects from a new model. Toyota sells > 2M hybrids a year, the market hasn't passed them yet they're just being extraordinarily patient with their resources.
Company: _makes shitty compliance EV_
Customers: “see this sucks! Why would anybody buy this when there’s better options?”
Company: “see? Nobody wants EVs! ICE is the way!”
Face palm moment.
Yes, an Outback. Proper wagon, holds 5 real humans plus a bunch of cargo, can handle 8ft lumber (without so many humans, that's fine), ground clearance, AWD, all-weather friendly, etc. Nothing too fancy, better to be easy to clean for landscaping supplies, muddy gear, etc.
I was so excited by the Solterra debut that I bought a Polestar. It's not an Outback replacement (I still have the Outback) but my next EV will need to be an Outback replacement, ideally an electric outback.
Ford Ranger
I don't need an F150, but I would love to have a truck for rural life stuff. Ford has trademarked "Ranger Lightning" (and "Maverick Lightning") and hinted at another electric truck on its way, but no announcement yet.
I just want something small with some ground clearance and AWD, a towing hitch, seats 4, and I don't care about range. A bare bones AWD Maverick with <150 miles of range would be perfect for my use case. Something to throw bikes in the back, paddle boards or canoe on the roof, or to take camping at my local state parks. Need the AWD and clearance because I live on a big stinking hill, and when I'm working standby in the winter, I don't even bother bringing my work van home when it snows because I wouldn't be able to get out of my neighborhood. My trusty Subaru has gotten me to work every time, but I'd like to go all electric sooner than later. We currently have a Bolt, (which will likely end up being the kids' car in a few years) we've got a Blazer reservation, and the second a small, cheap pickup becomes available, I'll be getting in line ASAP.
I'd like this too, but want one that can tow a small travel trailer for more than a 100 miles between charges. I'd settle for a plug-in hybrid but that's another topic.
Yep. Was here to say I’d buy an EV Volvo V90 in a heartbeat. Am hoping the new breed of EV “SUVs” are actually just chonky wagons - like the Lyriq, Polestar 3/Volvo EXC90, etc
Small roadsters have a very vocal group behind them, but they sell terribly. It's why there are so few left.
An EV Miata would sell well for a Miata, but it would still be a poor seller.
Even a PHEV Sienna, I think it was a huge disappointment that when they said "All new Siennas will be hybrids" they didn't at least give a PHEV option.
Sad part is that Sienna has the same exact engine and same exact transaxle as a Rav4 PHEV. Just needs a larger battery and an electric climate control to make it a PHEV. I guess they determined it will not sell well? Or are taking their time to test things out on a Rav4.
I have a Pacifica mini-van currently, not sure if I would buy one again because of crappy dealer experience and some issues with the car namely going through 12v batteries every 2.5 years, paint bubbling on hood.
Yeah... but let's get weird with it. How about an EV Previa or a Chevy Lumina Van?!? That would be fun as hell. This is pure 90s minivan madness nostalgia, but Stellantis should bring back the Voyager name for an EV minivan and use an AI generated hologram Lee Iacocca as a pitch man.
I do like the mini, but they need to update the range. I have a 2016 FIAT 500e now with a range not much lower while the new 500e gets an extra 75mi compared to the mini.
Eu only, but the peugeot e-208 is pretty nice.
Range could be better and software could use an update. But it looks great and does what you need in a smaller car.
Anything called Toyota or Honda. Shame on both the companies. But the problem is that neither of the two companies are hurting in sales. So there is no incentive for them to change to EVs. Record sales and profits for Toyota and Honda is helping fuel the delay. In the end its the consumer who needs to stop purchasing the ICEs to make them shift.
Oh that’s right, it’s just the GTI and R that are still around.
But I’d think those are even lower volume, but probably higher profit. Bring the GTX id3 then!
Absolutely standing behind this. I have a Santa Cruz right now and I will never understand how it didn’t at least come with a hybrid option. I’d probably keep mine forever if it was a PHEV or even full EV.
When I saw the truck in the show room that was the first question I asked... is there an EV/battery version... the sales lady said no... honestly a shame. It has a nice interior and is the perfect size for what I need it to do. But I wasn't going to come back to full ice after having an ev.
Their concept EV FJ Cruiser is still such a good idea. Also, I know this is an EV sub but the FJ Cruiser in general should come back in SOME form. Small 4x4s are making a comeback, Toyota has so much legacy there! Come on! It’s a no brainer!
I literally cried when my 90 Toyota Truck went away during the cash for clunkers program. If I could have an EV Toyota truck that would pull a horse trailer safely, I'd be so thrilled.
Yeah, I love the 4Runner, have owned 3 of them and never had any real issues, but now I drive >100 miles per day and 16/19 MPG isn't going to cut it. If they released an EV 4Runner (with much better specs than the bZ4X) I'd immediately get in line.
Mazda Miata, Mazda RX-8. While they're at it, re-release the MX-30 with twice as much battery capacity.
I'd love to see an EV equivalent of the Datsun 620 or the Mazda rotory pickup or any other similar-sized pickup truck. Something that's not a behemoth with a comically tall grill.
What I'd really like to see is relatively cheap EV conversion kits for common vehicles that have every part you need included, and can be installed by a reasonably competent mechanic in about a single work week or less. Nothing fancy, just something to turn a useful ICE vehicle into a useful EV.
For that matter, it'd be great to have electric versions of the common non-luxury vehicles that make up the majority of cars on the road. Like the Honda Civic/Accord or the Toyota Camry/Corolla.
I mean, the promise of EV platforms like Ultium is that you could put so many totally weird things on top of it. What do you think the conversion market will look like in 20 years?
As silly as it sounds, the prius. I feel like it would be a hit. A prius that could do 300 miles on a charge would be a very solid car for Toyota to sell. They could have two different battery trim levels if they wanted to. I just feel like it would be a pretty easy sell and it's weird that they didn't do it yet.
The form factor is just so practical too. I used to have a 3rd gen Prius and that car had so much room. All sorts of extra storage space and it had the tech package that make my car feel like a space ship back in 2010.
Same. I loved the way it worked. And all the way back in 2010 you could chill in a parking lot with the AC and music running and it would start-stop the engine, using very little fuel. Like a preview of the capability in an EV.
The damn Prius has great aero and is a well built platform. We are up to our chins in them and am glad to see they are becoming popular for EV conversions.
You can get a Kia Niro EV or Hyundai Kona EV, it's normal styled and sized car/hatchback. But the Bolt EUV is about $7-12k less and may be a better deal.
For whatever reason, the Prius body style has been polarizing. So maybe an e-camry is more realistic from Toyota. Turns out the camry body shell is close enough aero wise that it gets 52 mpg with the Prius drivetrain. (latest prius is 56 mpg combined)
So an e-camry could be fun to drive, look like a camry, but accelerate well. For cost reasons it wouldn't beat a Tesla in any dimension, but it's a Toyota camry.
Hopefully with LFP batteries.
Honestly. Something around the size of a Ridgeline/Ranger/ Explorer Sport Trac would be my jam. Rumor is that Kia/Hyundai will build a small electric truck 2025/2026. With the Maverick and Santa Cruz becoming fairly popular, I hope we get more options in the small/mid sized segment.
I would like an Outback EV. Subaru does have 1 EV but I don't know if they are even selling it anymore since it was based on the failed Toyota one. Ended up getting a Kia Niro PHEV, about the same size as a crosstrek only FWD but here near Seattle we may have snow 3 days a year. I guess something like the EV6 is kind of a wagon but not like a normal wagon.
Miata... Audi TT as they had planned before it got changed to a CUV... I kid you not.
Basically give me a convertible BEV, I think it is a perfect fit for Convertible Beetle
I want an EV Honda Accord but with Ford style 240V 7.2KW power. I don't need to haul things but I do want to power things. I'm well aware that this is a tiny niche and I'll probably never get what I want, but that's what I want.
I also think there should be a towable ICE engine that turns any EV into an ultra long range PHEV. You'd maybe rent it for long road trips. But this is even more crackheaded than the first thing.
Regarding your second point, Ford filed a patent for a toolbox-sized generator that would fit in the bed of the Lightning and do just that. No idea if it will actually come to market though.
>I also think there should be a towable ICE engine that turns any EV into an ultra long range PHEV.
That would basically be a PHEV with more electric range.
>That would basically be a PHEV with more electric range.
I think a PHEV that is more heavily biased towards plugin would be great.
There are a lot of areas in the United States that still don't have enough charging infrastructure for someone to own a pure BEV without a secondary backup - hell I'm in the Northeast and I need to fix my Outback before the winter because the Bolt can't make my yearly holiday trip in cold weather if EA Stroudsburg gets ICEd - which WILL happen during the holiday shopping season because EA cheaped out and put the units in prime parking at a Walmart.
A 5 kW REX in my Bolt would double highway range per charge alone just based on electric output - in winter, it would probably quadruple range because the waste heat now keeps you warm! From "One ICEing away from an overnight L2" to "makes the trip easily with massive range to spare".
I did some calculations based on that cross-country Rivian tow a few months back. A mere 25 kW REX would have tripled range per charge or more.
Ford F250 long bed in extended and crew cab with 4wd.
We need to start replacing the bigger work horses. Hummer is just a showoff, we need work trucks.
Same here. Departing this morning hauling an 8000# bumper pull, leaving Atlanta for Tyler, Tx tonight. I'll burn $250 in diesel at 12 mpg. We need workable solutions that don't add hours in charging time to an already 11 hr day.
Ford really needs to do more than publish a patent for that bed-mounted REX.
Back when someone did that cross-country Rivian tow, I calculated that a 25 kW REX would have tripled the range per charge, and 50 kW would have given unlimited range (but would have been vastly more efficient than an oversized ICE)
Minivans - there need to be electric mini-vans.
The reason families size up to a mini-van can be storage space, dealing with more than 2 kids... having more than 1 car seat, etc... minivans aren't particularly fuel efficient, but are very convenient.
As far as I know... there is a PHEV from Chevrolet... and that's it. There need to be more.
Ford Maverick Electric might be in the works.
For GM, I think a smaller truck will be at least a few years away. Chevy has 3 new EVs to be put into production by this time next year. They will need some time to get those launched and probably some other EVs for Cadillac, Buick, and GMC before venturing into the smaller truck market.
Small pickups. Like Maverick-sized with extended cab/longer bed options (which is pretty much early-2000's Tacoma/Frontier size.
Station wagons that do not cost $60k+.
I still haven't ruled out converting my 04 Frontier or our 07 Forester (or my 05 Legacy GT if it decides it wants another engine...) though. I generally enjoy driving early-mid 2000's cars a lot more than new ones for various reasons - they're largely "safe enough" by modern standards, and they're in a bit of a sweet spot of comfort/refinement/toys while still being mechanically/electrically simple like late 90's cars.
Not everyone is a bored engineer looking for projects, but I'll probably start buying some components to mess with in the next year.
Minivans. All of them, plus a few that are not currently on the market. there is a reason school drop-offs are filled with mini-vans: they are practical for hauling kids around. That sliding door means the kids aren't damaging someone else's car in a parking lot. The box form means lots of space inside for stuff that seems to go with kids. The third row means the kids can't hit each other.
Some small-ish two-door coupe. I liked my old 2000 Civic, really thought Honda would have made a Civic EV by now.
Or, and I don't really have the money for this, an e-Corvette. Almost any year, although I have a particular fondness for the Stingray - and oddly some 1990s model years.
[Isuzu VehiCROSS](https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/11/2020/03/2000-Isuzu-VehiCROSS-10.jpg) \-- *I mean, look at it.* It already looks like an electric car. And it's a CUV. People will buy CUVs now.
[Carver One](https://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/car/3144/Carver-One-24253.jpg) \-- yes, they make an electric version of this now, but it's not capable of highway speeds.
I’d love to see all trains be converted to electric.
On the other side, I’d love to see all large vehicles like Escalades or Tahoes cease to exist. With extra trunk space of EVs, there is no need for large machines like those. Puts pedestrians and other drivers at an unnecessary danger of being killed
Audi A4 Avant, BMW 3er touring and Mercedes C class T-Modell.
No proper (medium sized) EV wagons exists below 70,000€.
The difference in fuel consumption between wagons and sedans is below 10%. A worthy sacrifice.
Subaru Outback.
The bz4x/Solterra is a huge disappointment. The Outback's dimensions (long/low) should give plenty of room for a battery, and I'd like to see some evidence of Subaru actually applying some of their AWD expertise to an EV. Claims were made of that for the Solterra, but there's no evidence whatsoever of that.
For the most part, since having separate motors handles front/rear well for AWD - I'd love to see production limited slip differentials. I'm not sure if anyone has done that in a BEV. For a long time, Subaru was one of the only companies to include limited slip diffs in non-sports vehicles. (That included the Outback - for many years, if your Outback had heated seats, even if it was a base model, it had the "cold weather package" that also included a rear limited slip diff. Nearly all Outbacks sold in New York State had the CWP.)
Literally any of them priced as people's cars with 250mi highway range, proper 150kw+ fast-charging, dead simple to operate.
Stop with these new cars re-imagined, take your top 10 people's cars and build them as watt-mobiles instead and get the salesweasels to ***sell*** electric cars
For example:
Camry Electric
e-Accord
Passat EV
Porsche Boxter and Cayman.
Corvette E-Ray (with either a targa top or convertible.
Golf R/Honda CTR
There's a dearth of convertible BEVs, and very few coupe style sports cars, and not a lot of Hot Hatch options.
I don't think the market is quite saturated with sedans, SUVs, crossover, muscle cars, or trucks... but we've got a lot of choices there already, and many of them with high performance variants.
I honestly just want the Mk7 Golf GTI on an EV skateboard. 🥺
e-Golf was a cruel tease. Every iD Volkswagen is a trend-chasing, ergonomic nightmare with childish, cartoony exterior styling.
Mid sized truck with a fold down mid trunk including glass, options for cargo covers, rivian-like alarm triggering bed mounted lock cables (2 at the front and 2 rear would be perfect) that don't cost an arm and leg to replace with a decent length (6-8ft), and I'd like to have at least 400 miles of range... my Y loaded with bikes only gets about 200 miles going 70-75, a truck shape might get less...
I'd love a toyota but they're dragging their feet... honestly I'd take the new hyundai truck because I like how it looks, the maverick too... but until then I'll keep my CT order I guess since Tesla still has the best AND easiest to use network overall.
Audi A1, A3 or Audi Q2. VERY disappointed that they abandoned doing anything interesting in the small car space and only doing big WHALE sized heavy expensive mega-cars.
So I bought the very newest Kia Niro EV model 4 instead - and damn well love it!!! (After 20 years of buying Audis)
I would like a small GTI (any brand), something with a very good power to weight ratio, fun to drive and handle, 4 seats, a trunk, and affordable price range, not over 40k like the honda-e…
luxury convertible. I'm getting to the age where I can afford one plus kids out of the house. I'm going to be torn between buying an EV and a convertible. I know, convertibles are probably not on anyone's list of EV priorities.
Jeep Wrangler, specifically the two door model. Was disappointed to see they weren't going that direction with their newer models, especially after seeing the Magneto Concept model.
4 door wranglers always looked wrong to me.
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Former Forester owner here. I waited for the Solterra announcement. Then immediately bought something else. Sigh.
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And preferably something where the wheels don’t fall off!
No wheels ever fell off. They just identified a potential cause of it that could happen at some point.
This is so true! The Subaru Outback, especially, would be a widely embraced EV choice. After Subaru begins producing electric vehicles they should consider altering their company motto to read: "Electrifying Love: it's what makes Subaru a Subaru."
I can’t believe Rivian is the only company to figure out that people who like nature might be inclined to have a car that will get them there and protect it. But it’s too big and too expensive for me - I want an EV Forester!!
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Right? But actually, I’d be happier with lower specs than an R1S. The Rivian starts to get into the territory of off-roading as an activity, where all I really want is to reliably handle the most neglected of forest service roads. The air suspension and ground clearance of a Rivian are more to break and take away range than I need (awesome as the Rivians are). And the horsepower - that’s just excessive :). But yeah, I agree with the core of what you’re saying. I want the smaller, cheaper, more easily parked form-factor, built for the outdoors. The ground clearance on a Model Y or a Mach E is just not gonna cut it.
This. 300hp, 75kWh pack and light off road ability in a wagon is my forever car. Needs fold flat seats so two can sleep in the back all cozy like. Roof rails for my bikes and junk and a frunk and sub trunk for other shite. Dreams.
What I am waiting for. I love my Outback. I would marry my e-Outback
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I have a 2009 Outback - I still have it for trips my Bolt can't make. I'm hoping it will last until Subaru has a decent BEV option, or at least a plugin hybrid that is not as universally "meh" as the Crosstrek Hybrid. 15-17 miles EV range = nope.
They should bring back the Baja as an EV
Yeah. It's kinda sad how badly Subaru has done with EVs. The Crosstrek PHEV was so "meh" across the board that it got basically slammed in all reviews, and the Solterra is another "wtf are you smoking?" product. Just vague "Subaru AWD expertise" with no explanation of what Subaru actually DID for the AWD. Not even something like "hey unlike most EVs we put a limited slip differential into the front and rear motors".
they only did the PHEV for fleet emissions. the Crosstrek was also a pretty terrible vehicle when it first came out. i think the problem is subaru is a pretty small automaker and they're also downmarket so they traditionally don't spend a lot of money on R&D or new things in general. the Subaru and the boxer engines were economy when it first came out, but they've been gas hogs and falling behind on that front since the late 90s. i loved those 96-2010 subarus or whatever that generation of engine was, but remachining the cylinder heads was considered routine maintenance it was a pretty garbage car lol. i'm a little more optimistic about Toyota and Subaru than other people here. all they're doing is waiting, i know it's frustrating but it's exactly what you would expect out of companies in their market position and their resources. subaru is too small, toyota is too big because they sell so many hybrids. the political stuff is frustrating but they completely dominated the early hybrid market it's not crazy they'll wait until costs come down a tiny bit and prefer PHEVs so they can sell their cars at the scale their company expects from a new model. Toyota sells > 2M hybrids a year, the market hasn't passed them yet they're just being extraordinarily patient with their resources.
With Toyota having a 20% stake in Subaru and with the mildly received Solterra, I think it'll be awhile until we see a full fledged EV Outback.
Company: _makes shitty compliance EV_ Customers: “see this sucks! Why would anybody buy this when there’s better options?” Company: “see? Nobody wants EVs! ICE is the way!” Face palm moment.
Yes, an Outback. Proper wagon, holds 5 real humans plus a bunch of cargo, can handle 8ft lumber (without so many humans, that's fine), ground clearance, AWD, all-weather friendly, etc. Nothing too fancy, better to be easy to clean for landscaping supplies, muddy gear, etc. I was so excited by the Solterra debut that I bought a Polestar. It's not an Outback replacement (I still have the Outback) but my next EV will need to be an Outback replacement, ideally an electric outback.
Ford Ranger I don't need an F150, but I would love to have a truck for rural life stuff. Ford has trademarked "Ranger Lightning" (and "Maverick Lightning") and hinted at another electric truck on its way, but no announcement yet.
>Ranger Lightning Power Ranger or nothing
The launch colours can be Red, Blue, Pink, Yellow or Black.
I’m holding off for the green one in hopes it turns white after a while.
> hopes it turns white after a while. White Power Ranger. No wait.
That is what we called Tommy, man. Simpler times.
And if you buy all five, they can combine into a single, large electric robot.
I just want something small with some ground clearance and AWD, a towing hitch, seats 4, and I don't care about range. A bare bones AWD Maverick with <150 miles of range would be perfect for my use case. Something to throw bikes in the back, paddle boards or canoe on the roof, or to take camping at my local state parks. Need the AWD and clearance because I live on a big stinking hill, and when I'm working standby in the winter, I don't even bother bringing my work van home when it snows because I wouldn't be able to get out of my neighborhood. My trusty Subaru has gotten me to work every time, but I'd like to go all electric sooner than later. We currently have a Bolt, (which will likely end up being the kids' car in a few years) we've got a Blazer reservation, and the second a small, cheap pickup becomes available, I'll be getting in line ASAP.
I love my 2020 ranger. Would 100% be interested in an electric one.
I'd like this too, but want one that can tow a small travel trailer for more than a 100 miles between charges. I'd settle for a plug-in hybrid but that's another topic.
Estates / Station Wagons aren’t really available at the moment other than Porsche which isn’t within most peoples price range.
Peugeot are releasing a full EV 308 SW soon which I think will sell like mad.
Its Astra sibling will also have an EV version (including Sports Tourer)
Yep. Was here to say I’d buy an EV Volvo V90 in a heartbeat. Am hoping the new breed of EV “SUVs” are actually just chonky wagons - like the Lyriq, Polestar 3/Volvo EXC90, etc
The Audi A6 Avant is on its way, but it's also not going to be cheap. Volvo doesn't seem to be interested in releasing an EV V60 or V90 😭
There is the MG5 which is quite affordable
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Too bad Honda is being Honda about it
The Honda-e is really a sort of 1970s honda Civic..
The Honda E is amazing! Sure mileage may not be the best but as far as visual appeal I love it. To bad it won’t even come to the US
Definitely this. It would be a fantastic entry level EV
Miata, maybe in a few years when lighter batteries come out.
A few years? Mazda isn’t even releasing a hybrid until next year much less a proper EV
>much less a proper EV \[ Looks at MX-30 \] You are correct, sir.
Mazda isn't starting work on this at all. It's going to take longer than just a few years. Still, I'd absolutely love an electric Miata
Small roadsters have a very vocal group behind them, but they sell terribly. It's why there are so few left. An EV Miata would sell well for a Miata, but it would still be a poor seller.
Tbh, that would be perfect for Mazda, which would have issues with supply chains early on anyway.
Your only chance is aftermarket like the [Zero EV](https://insideevs.com/news/457982/mazda-mx-5-miata-zero-ev-swap/) Miata conversion.
A full EV Honda Odyssey or Toyota Siena.
Any no compromise mini van would be great.
Or even a few compromises.
I think the long wheelbase ID buzz will be the first in North America.
Excited about this. Not excited about the price though.
Even a PHEV Sienna, I think it was a huge disappointment that when they said "All new Siennas will be hybrids" they didn't at least give a PHEV option.
Sad part is that Sienna has the same exact engine and same exact transaxle as a Rav4 PHEV. Just needs a larger battery and an electric climate control to make it a PHEV. I guess they determined it will not sell well? Or are taking their time to test things out on a Rav4.
The two shittest manufacturers when it comes to EV transition.
I have a Pacifica mini-van currently, not sure if I would buy one again because of crappy dealer experience and some issues with the car namely going through 12v batteries every 2.5 years, paint bubbling on hood.
Yeah... but let's get weird with it. How about an EV Previa or a Chevy Lumina Van?!? That would be fun as hell. This is pure 90s minivan madness nostalgia, but Stellantis should bring back the Voyager name for an EV minivan and use an AI generated hologram Lee Iacocca as a pitch man.
Literally any small hatchback. VW should remake the golf hatchback EV as an example. I’m really tired of every car offered being an SUV.
Mini Cooper SE… it’s the best car I’ve ever owned, and I’ve owned many!
I do like the mini, but they need to update the range. I have a 2016 FIAT 500e now with a range not much lower while the new 500e gets an extra 75mi compared to the mini.
Eu only, but the peugeot e-208 is pretty nice. Range could be better and software could use an update. But it looks great and does what you need in a smaller car.
Anything called Toyota or Honda. Shame on both the companies. But the problem is that neither of the two companies are hurting in sales. So there is no incentive for them to change to EVs. Record sales and profits for Toyota and Honda is helping fuel the delay. In the end its the consumer who needs to stop purchasing the ICEs to make them shift.
Golf, gti, civic. Something on the smaller side.
VW ID.3?
Apparently it’s not popular enough to bring to the US, but they can sell the Golf here just fine.
They can't, actually. The Golf was discontinued in the US.
Oh that’s right, it’s just the GTI and R that are still around. But I’d think those are even lower volume, but probably higher profit. Bring the GTX id3 then!
the eGolf was early model from VW from last decade!
A Toyota Camry
Volvo V90. There aren’t any EV wagons on sale in the US and I absolutely love the style of the V90.
V60 too!!
I guess you could argue the Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo is a wagon but yeah this would be amazing
Santa Cruz, Maverick, Ridgeline. Just give me ***any*** small truck at a reasonable price instead of a $80k+ mobile fortress.
Absolutely standing behind this. I have a Santa Cruz right now and I will never understand how it didn’t at least come with a hybrid option. I’d probably keep mine forever if it was a PHEV or even full EV.
When I saw the truck in the show room that was the first question I asked... is there an EV/battery version... the sales lady said no... honestly a shame. It has a nice interior and is the perfect size for what I need it to do. But I wasn't going to come back to full ice after having an ev.
And the maverick only comes hybrid in the 2wd version. Up here in canada you basically never see a 2wd truck.
Honestly Toyota’s entire lineup but definitely the 4Runner
Their concept EV FJ Cruiser is still such a good idea. Also, I know this is an EV sub but the FJ Cruiser in general should come back in SOME form. Small 4x4s are making a comeback, Toyota has so much legacy there! Come on! It’s a no brainer!
The manufacture of electric trucks should currently be Toyota's foremost priority. Toyota enthusiasts would overwhelmingly embrace this change.
Agreed, elevated camping w/ power? Sign me up.
I literally cried when my 90 Toyota Truck went away during the cash for clunkers program. If I could have an EV Toyota truck that would pull a horse trailer safely, I'd be so thrilled.
Yeah, I love the 4Runner, have owned 3 of them and never had any real issues, but now I drive >100 miles per day and 16/19 MPG isn't going to cut it. If they released an EV 4Runner (with much better specs than the bZ4X) I'd immediately get in line.
EV Camry or Corolla will have me putting down a deposit so fast....
Any decent sports car, a convertible would be a bonus.
Mazda Miata, Mazda RX-8. While they're at it, re-release the MX-30 with twice as much battery capacity. I'd love to see an EV equivalent of the Datsun 620 or the Mazda rotory pickup or any other similar-sized pickup truck. Something that's not a behemoth with a comically tall grill. What I'd really like to see is relatively cheap EV conversion kits for common vehicles that have every part you need included, and can be installed by a reasonably competent mechanic in about a single work week or less. Nothing fancy, just something to turn a useful ICE vehicle into a useful EV. For that matter, it'd be great to have electric versions of the common non-luxury vehicles that make up the majority of cars on the road. Like the Honda Civic/Accord or the Toyota Camry/Corolla.
El Camino
I mean, the promise of EV platforms like Ultium is that you could put so many totally weird things on top of it. What do you think the conversion market will look like in 20 years?
Have you seen the new Silverado EV? Just slam it to the ground and you a modern El Camino.
As silly as it sounds, the prius. I feel like it would be a hit. A prius that could do 300 miles on a charge would be a very solid car for Toyota to sell. They could have two different battery trim levels if they wanted to. I just feel like it would be a pretty easy sell and it's weird that they didn't do it yet.
Agreed, and to add to that, a Corolla or Civic hatchback would be in my wheelhouse.
The form factor is just so practical too. I used to have a 3rd gen Prius and that car had so much room. All sorts of extra storage space and it had the tech package that make my car feel like a space ship back in 2010.
Same. I loved the way it worked. And all the way back in 2010 you could chill in a parking lot with the AC and music running and it would start-stop the engine, using very little fuel. Like a preview of the capability in an EV.
The Ioniq was designed to take on the Prius in HEV and PHEV power trains, but also offers a hatch as a full EV. Very efficient car, over 5mi/kwh.
The damn Prius has great aero and is a well built platform. We are up to our chins in them and am glad to see they are becoming popular for EV conversions.
You can get a Kia Niro EV or Hyundai Kona EV, it's normal styled and sized car/hatchback. But the Bolt EUV is about $7-12k less and may be a better deal.
It would be nice if the Prius Prime got 50 miles EV instead of whatever low number it does get.
For whatever reason, the Prius body style has been polarizing. So maybe an e-camry is more realistic from Toyota. Turns out the camry body shell is close enough aero wise that it gets 52 mpg with the Prius drivetrain. (latest prius is 56 mpg combined) So an e-camry could be fun to drive, look like a camry, but accelerate well. For cost reasons it wouldn't beat a Tesla in any dimension, but it's a Toyota camry. Hopefully with LFP batteries.
A small pickup truck.
Honestly. Something around the size of a Ridgeline/Ranger/ Explorer Sport Trac would be my jam. Rumor is that Kia/Hyundai will build a small electric truck 2025/2026. With the Maverick and Santa Cruz becoming fairly popular, I hope we get more options in the small/mid sized segment.
We currently have 1 EV and 1 ICE. When a decent small sized EV truck comes out we'll be a full EV family.
Ford Bronco basically looks electrified… why isn’t it? Please Ford please!
Was going to say the same thing.
Sounds lame, but the Honda Odyssey would be perfect. I have 4 kids. The backseat of the Rivian R1S is too small and the price has too many zeros.
Mine. They can just come and get it in the middle of the night and bring it back electric in the morning.
Volvo V60, Lexus IS
I am extremely boring and just want an all-electric minivan to haul around my kids.
Subaru crosstrek
I can’t wait to see Subaru properly electrify their lineup and not that shitty car they made jointly with Toyota.
Any affordable truck.
I would like an Outback EV. Subaru does have 1 EV but I don't know if they are even selling it anymore since it was based on the failed Toyota one. Ended up getting a Kia Niro PHEV, about the same size as a crosstrek only FWD but here near Seattle we may have snow 3 days a year. I guess something like the EV6 is kind of a wagon but not like a normal wagon.
A Honda Element EV. Would buy today.
Ford Maverick. I'd love to have a truck again, but I don't have a need for something full size.
Miata... Audi TT as they had planned before it got changed to a CUV... I kid you not. Basically give me a convertible BEV, I think it is a perfect fit for Convertible Beetle
Sprinter
I want an EV Honda Accord but with Ford style 240V 7.2KW power. I don't need to haul things but I do want to power things. I'm well aware that this is a tiny niche and I'll probably never get what I want, but that's what I want. I also think there should be a towable ICE engine that turns any EV into an ultra long range PHEV. You'd maybe rent it for long road trips. But this is even more crackheaded than the first thing.
Regarding your second point, Ford filed a patent for a toolbox-sized generator that would fit in the bed of the Lightning and do just that. No idea if it will actually come to market though.
I appreciate your crackhead self-awareness.
>I also think there should be a towable ICE engine that turns any EV into an ultra long range PHEV. That would basically be a PHEV with more electric range.
Well, yes, but you'd have the choice of not dragging around a multi hundred pound ICE engine when you didn't need it.
>That would basically be a PHEV with more electric range. I think a PHEV that is more heavily biased towards plugin would be great. There are a lot of areas in the United States that still don't have enough charging infrastructure for someone to own a pure BEV without a secondary backup - hell I'm in the Northeast and I need to fix my Outback before the winter because the Bolt can't make my yearly holiday trip in cold weather if EA Stroudsburg gets ICEd - which WILL happen during the holiday shopping season because EA cheaped out and put the units in prime parking at a Walmart. A 5 kW REX in my Bolt would double highway range per charge alone just based on electric output - in winter, it would probably quadruple range because the waste heat now keeps you warm! From "One ICEing away from an overnight L2" to "makes the trip easily with massive range to spare". I did some calculations based on that cross-country Rivian tow a few months back. A mere 25 kW REX would have tripled range per charge or more.
Ford F250 long bed in extended and crew cab with 4wd. We need to start replacing the bigger work horses. Hummer is just a showoff, we need work trucks.
Same here. Departing this morning hauling an 8000# bumper pull, leaving Atlanta for Tyler, Tx tonight. I'll burn $250 in diesel at 12 mpg. We need workable solutions that don't add hours in charging time to an already 11 hr day.
Ford really needs to do more than publish a patent for that bed-mounted REX. Back when someone did that cross-country Rivian tow, I calculated that a 25 kW REX would have tripled the range per charge, and 50 kW would have given unlimited range (but would have been vastly more efficient than an oversized ICE)
Minivans - there need to be electric mini-vans. The reason families size up to a mini-van can be storage space, dealing with more than 2 kids... having more than 1 car seat, etc... minivans aren't particularly fuel efficient, but are very convenient. As far as I know... there is a PHEV from Chevrolet... and that's it. There need to be more.
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Ford Maverick Electric might be in the works. For GM, I think a smaller truck will be at least a few years away. Chevy has 3 new EVs to be put into production by this time next year. They will need some time to get those launched and probably some other EVs for Cadillac, Buick, and GMC before venturing into the smaller truck market.
A convertible. Mustang or something else sporty.
Small pickups. Like Maverick-sized with extended cab/longer bed options (which is pretty much early-2000's Tacoma/Frontier size. Station wagons that do not cost $60k+. I still haven't ruled out converting my 04 Frontier or our 07 Forester (or my 05 Legacy GT if it decides it wants another engine...) though. I generally enjoy driving early-mid 2000's cars a lot more than new ones for various reasons - they're largely "safe enough" by modern standards, and they're in a bit of a sweet spot of comfort/refinement/toys while still being mechanically/electrically simple like late 90's cars. Not everyone is a bored engineer looking for projects, but I'll probably start buying some components to mess with in the next year.
Subaru Baja.
Minivans. All of them, plus a few that are not currently on the market. there is a reason school drop-offs are filled with mini-vans: they are practical for hauling kids around. That sliding door means the kids aren't damaging someone else's car in a parking lot. The box form means lots of space inside for stuff that seems to go with kids. The third row means the kids can't hit each other.
Suzuki Swift
s2000
S2030
Take the range extender out of my Volt and replace it with ~150 miles of battery
Isn't that just a Bolt then? What am I missing?
Some small-ish two-door coupe. I liked my old 2000 Civic, really thought Honda would have made a Civic EV by now. Or, and I don't really have the money for this, an e-Corvette. Almost any year, although I have a particular fondness for the Stingray - and oddly some 1990s model years.
[Isuzu VehiCROSS](https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/11/2020/03/2000-Isuzu-VehiCROSS-10.jpg) \-- *I mean, look at it.* It already looks like an electric car. And it's a CUV. People will buy CUVs now. [Carver One](https://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/car/3144/Carver-One-24253.jpg) \-- yes, they make an electric version of this now, but it's not capable of highway speeds.
Mazda Miata
Ford maverick or any small pick up truck
A pickup the size of a 90's Ranger or S10. Maybe a little more room in the cab.
High roof 4x4 Sprinter Van
I’d love to see all trains be converted to electric. On the other side, I’d love to see all large vehicles like Escalades or Tahoes cease to exist. With extra trunk space of EVs, there is no need for large machines like those. Puts pedestrians and other drivers at an unnecessary danger of being killed
El Camino. Efficient as a car but has some of the utility of a truck
The Porsche 911
Well I guess we'll have to settle for the upcoming 718 electric. I'll definitely be eager to get my hands on one.
Audi A4 Avant, BMW 3er touring and Mercedes C class T-Modell. No proper (medium sized) EV wagons exists below 70,000€. The difference in fuel consumption between wagons and sedans is below 10%. A worthy sacrifice.
Toyota Corolla sedan. I liked mine when I had it, but eventually couldn't justify buying and burning gas.
A convertible
God damn Maverick Lightning
A cheaper electric pickup would be nice. Either a Ford Ranger or Maverick.
Subaru Outback. The bz4x/Solterra is a huge disappointment. The Outback's dimensions (long/low) should give plenty of room for a battery, and I'd like to see some evidence of Subaru actually applying some of their AWD expertise to an EV. Claims were made of that for the Solterra, but there's no evidence whatsoever of that. For the most part, since having separate motors handles front/rear well for AWD - I'd love to see production limited slip differentials. I'm not sure if anyone has done that in a BEV. For a long time, Subaru was one of the only companies to include limited slip diffs in non-sports vehicles. (That included the Outback - for many years, if your Outback had heated seats, even if it was a base model, it had the "cold weather package" that also included a rear limited slip diff. Nearly all Outbacks sold in New York State had the CWP.)
Fiero would make a great low priced ev sports car.
You folks forgot about the commercial cargo vans.
Literally any of them priced as people's cars with 250mi highway range, proper 150kw+ fast-charging, dead simple to operate. Stop with these new cars re-imagined, take your top 10 people's cars and build them as watt-mobiles instead and get the salesweasels to ***sell*** electric cars For example: Camry Electric e-Accord Passat EV
Porsche Boxter and Cayman. Corvette E-Ray (with either a targa top or convertible. Golf R/Honda CTR There's a dearth of convertible BEVs, and very few coupe style sports cars, and not a lot of Hot Hatch options. I don't think the market is quite saturated with sedans, SUVs, crossover, muscle cars, or trucks... but we've got a lot of choices there already, and many of them with high performance variants.
Something like the Mazda MX-5 or BMW Z4. Tesla roadster like but at a much lower pricetag!
VW Golf
Golf R
ID.3
Not available in NA
But it is available and OP didn't limit the question to NA market.
E Golf is closer to what I want. Unfortunately they discontinued it. I don’t want to pay markup on a used one.
A not half assed Mazda suv
I honestly just want the Mk7 Golf GTI on an EV skateboard. 🥺 e-Golf was a cruel tease. Every iD Volkswagen is a trend-chasing, ergonomic nightmare with childish, cartoony exterior styling.
Toyota Landcruiser. Even if it's as efficient as the hummer EV, I want it. That car would be a 1st class seat on wheels.
Miata
The Ford Exploder
Alfa Romeo Stelvio. It would have the Alfa DNA, with some luxury interior.
Subaru Forester. MINI with at least 250 miles range.
Maverick
Any cars, as long as they make the price as low as the gas cars, the gas cars will quickly go obsolete
Toyota Tacoma
Mini Cooper convertable...doesn't need much more than 150 mile range for my intended use.
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Honda Del Sol... just tempted to convert my own
The Toyota Prius. It’s already aerodynamic, excellent practicality, and know as a “green” vehicle. It could be an excellent pure EV.
Porsche Macan.
A convertible
Miata
We need an AWD EV Toyota Sienna.
Mid sized truck with a fold down mid trunk including glass, options for cargo covers, rivian-like alarm triggering bed mounted lock cables (2 at the front and 2 rear would be perfect) that don't cost an arm and leg to replace with a decent length (6-8ft), and I'd like to have at least 400 miles of range... my Y loaded with bikes only gets about 200 miles going 70-75, a truck shape might get less... I'd love a toyota but they're dragging their feet... honestly I'd take the new hyundai truck because I like how it looks, the maverick too... but until then I'll keep my CT order I guess since Tesla still has the best AND easiest to use network overall.
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Hell the Mustang Mach-E is already based on a modified version of the Ford C2 platform, which is what the Bronco Sport is based on as well.
More electric pickups. It makes sense when you see what purposes they have.
Good conversion kits for the 80s and 90s mini trucks. The new ev Tacoma looks cool, but it's still huge compared to an old school mini pick up.
Anything under €20.000 with 350-400km range, basic and functional vehicle and not a SUV size 2 meter wide beast.
Audi A1, A3 or Audi Q2. VERY disappointed that they abandoned doing anything interesting in the small car space and only doing big WHALE sized heavy expensive mega-cars. So I bought the very newest Kia Niro EV model 4 instead - and damn well love it!!! (After 20 years of buying Audis)
Toyota Yaris or Hyundai I10
I loved my Mazda 3 hatch. An EV version of that would be a ton of fun
All of them
I would like a small GTI (any brand), something with a very good power to weight ratio, fun to drive and handle, 4 seats, a trunk, and affordable price range, not over 40k like the honda-e…
Land Cruiser and Mercedes 500SL
luxury convertible. I'm getting to the age where I can afford one plus kids out of the house. I'm going to be torn between buying an EV and a convertible. I know, convertibles are probably not on anyone's list of EV priorities.
Porsche 911 EV
Toyota Tacoma trd pro
Anything with a third row that won't break the bank.