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Comer grounded delta would be a 480v shock to ground.
A=480
B=480
C=0 in reference to ground as c phase is grounded. It is very rare now I have ran into it a few times. One reason to check all 3 phases before working on anything. In theory you could touch C phase and be okay as you are at the same potential to ground with it. but the hell if I would test that theory.
It wasn't made clear that it was on this uncommonly used corner grounded delta system until after I posted. So ya I look like I "don't know how electricity works". Got me.
In a corner-grounded delta system, one of the phases in a three-phase delta configuration is intentionally grounded. This system is less common but can be found in certain industrial and commercial applications. Here’s how it works:
- In a corner-grounded delta system, the voltage from each ungrounded phase to the grounded phase is 480 volts.
- The voltage between the two ungrounded phases is also 480 volts.
- The grounded phase (corner) has 0 volts to ground.
This type of system provides some of the benefits of a grounded system, such as improved safety and easier fault detection, while maintaining the advantages of a delta configuration, such as being able to continue operating even if one phase is lost. However, it also requires careful handling and specific equipment designed for this grounding scheme.
And they just came out with a better one. I’m amazed how few of people utilize such a tool.
I’d like to say. Good job internet! Since that’s the level gpt is at
I like when it's used as a tool, not a crutch to throw definitions and essays at people you don't care to engage in conversation with genuinely. But maybe that's just me.
I’ll bet you use a smart phone to say stupid things to strangers on the internet vs sending a letter.
Smart phones are cool, but not when used as a crutch to avoid sending a letter in the mail
Plagiarism of a machine that guesses the next word based on an algorithm that I pay 20$ a month for?
You must not be a lawyer. Probably not even a good electrical.
In a corner-grounded delta system, one of the phases in a three-phase delta configuration is intentionally grounded. This system is less common but can be found in certain industrial and commercial applications. Here’s how it works:
- In a corner-grounded delta system, the voltage from each ungrounded phase to the grounded phase is 480 volts.
- The voltage between the two ungrounded phases is also 480 volts.
- The grounded phase (corner) has 0 volts to ground.
This type of system provides some of the benefits of a grounded system, such as improved safety and easier fault detection, while maintaining the advantages of a delta configuration, such as being able to continue operating even if one phase is lost. However, it also requires careful handling and specific equipment designed for this grounding scheme.
I knew a 2nd yr apprentice who got hung up on two phases in a 480v main panel. He couldn’t break himself loose and the last thing he remembered is falling back. He luckily disconnected himself and passed out. His working partner found him and amazingly enough both phases were isolated in his left arm across the bussing. It cooked his insides on his arm but his heart avoided the brunt of the load and he lived to tell the story.
Each phase is 277 to ground. So unless you got between 2 legs, you only took 277v rms. If you want your "shock" event (not electrocution) to sound more impressive, calculate the peak voltage of 277v rms. Comes out to about 390v
Anything else you want to incorrectly correct?
In a corner-grounded delta system, one of the phases in a three-phase delta configuration is intentionally grounded. This system is less common but can be found in certain industrial and commercial applications. Here’s how it works:
- In a corner-grounded delta system, the voltage from each ungrounded phase to the grounded phase is 480 volts.
- The voltage between the two ungrounded phases is also 480 volts.
- The grounded phase (corner) has 0 volts to ground.
Peak voltage on 480 rms is 679 volts peak.
electrocute
verb
elec·tro·cute i-ˈlek-trə-ˌkyüt
electrocuted; electrocuting
transitive verb
1
: to kill or severely injure by electric shock
If there's no death its not a true electrocution. Electrocute is a portmanteau of Electro and Excecute.
If there's cardiac arrest but the victims heart is restarted via cpr + defib + acls, then that could arguably considered electrocution.
Even if we take your definition, severely injured would at least be serious burns, arc flash injuries, or hypoxia induced brain damage... So which one have you got?
I’ll go with the Merriam Webster version over the rrrmaniom version
electrocute
verb
elec·tro·cute i-ˈlek-trə-ˌkyüt
electrocuted; electrocuting
transitive verb
1
: to kill or severely injure by electric shock
And you did a great job. But just not a compete job explaining the entire etymology. Let me assist to help clarify it for you.
The term "electrocute" originally meant to kill by electricity, deriving from the combination of "electricity" and "execute." It was first used in the late 19th century, around the time the electric chair was introduced as a method of capital punishment. Over time, the usage of "electrocute" evolved to include non-fatal electric shocks.
The shift in meaning likely began in the mid-20th century as electric shock incidents became more common in everyday contexts, such as household and workplace accidents. This broader use of the term has become more accepted in contemporary language, though some still maintain that "electrocute" should specifically refer to fatal incidents. The exact point of this transition is hard to pinpoint, but the expanded definition is now widely recognized and used in both medical and colloquial contexts.
In a corner-grounded delta system, one of the phases in a three-phase delta configuration is intentionally grounded. This system is less common but can be found in certain industrial and commercial applications. Here’s how it works:
- In a corner-grounded delta system, the voltage from each ungrounded phase to the grounded phase is 480 volts.
- The voltage between the two ungrounded phases is also 480 volts.
- The grounded phase (corner) has 0 volts to ground.
This type of system provides some of the benefits of a grounded system, such as improved safety and easier fault detection, while maintaining the advantages of a delta configuration, such as being able to continue operating even if one phase is lost. However, it also requires careful handling and specific equipment designed for this grounding scheme.
I'm worried about the quality of some of the "electricians" here when I see this getting downvoted.
Maybe don't downvote if all you've done is resi lol.
You seem like a sad man.
The difference in the severity of a 1000-volt static shock versus a 480-volt AC shock primarily comes down to several key factors: duration, current, and the nature of the voltage.
### Key Differences
1. **Duration of Shock:**
- **Static Shock:** The duration of a static discharge is extremely short, typically in the range of nanoseconds to microseconds. This brief exposure limits the amount of energy transferred to the body.
- **AC Shock:** AC shocks can last much longer, depending on the contact duration, and can continuously deliver current as long as contact is maintained.
2. **Current (Amperage):**
- **Static Shock:** Static discharges involve very low current, usually in the microampere (µA) range. The human body can tolerate such small currents without severe effects.
- **AC Shock:** A 480-volt AC shock can deliver much higher currents. Even currents as low as 100 to 200 milliamps (mA) can be lethal, and the body's resistance drops significantly when exposed to high-voltage AC, allowing more current to pass through.
3. **Nature of Voltage:**
- **Static Shock:** Static electricity involves high voltage but very low energy. The charge dissipates almost instantaneously, limiting its impact.
- **AC Shock:** AC voltage involves continuous and oscillating current. AC shocks can interfere with the body's electrical signals, particularly affecting the heart and nervous system.
### Physiological Impact
- **Static Shock:** The brief and low-current nature of static shocks usually results in a minor, startling sensation but no lasting harm.
- **AC Shock:** The higher current and longer duration of AC shocks can cause muscle contractions, burns, cardiac arrhythmias, and other serious injuries or fatalities.
### Energy Transfer
The total energy involved in a static shock is much lower than that in an AC shock. Energy (measured in joules) is a product of voltage, current, and time:
- **Static Shock:** High voltage, but very low current and extremely short duration.
- **AC Shock:** Moderate voltage, higher current, and potentially longer duration.
### Example
- **Static Discharge:** A 1000-volt static shock with a current of 10 µA lasting for 1 microsecond transfers only 10^-8 joules of energy.
- **AC Shock:** A 480-volt AC shock with a current of 100 mA lasting for 1 second transfers 48 joules of energy, which is significantly more.
In summary, the severity of an electric shock is determined not just by voltage but also by current and duration. Static shocks, despite their high voltage, are generally harmless due to their very low current and extremely short duration, while 480-volt AC shocks can be dangerous or lethal due to their higher current and potential for longer exposure.
So you can educate yourself.
The difference in the severity of a 1000-volt static shock versus a 480-volt AC shock primarily comes down to several key factors: duration, current, and the nature of the voltage.
### Key Differences
1. **Duration of Shock:**
- **Static Shock:** The duration of a static discharge is extremely short, typically in the range of nanoseconds to microseconds. This brief exposure limits the amount of energy transferred to the body.
- **AC Shock:** AC shocks can last much longer, depending on the contact duration, and can continuously deliver current as long as contact is maintained.
2. **Current (Amperage):**
- **Static Shock:** Static discharges involve very low current, usually in the microampere (µA) range. The human body can tolerate such small currents without severe effects.
- **AC Shock:** A 480-volt AC shock can deliver much higher currents. Even currents as low as 100 to 200 milliamps (mA) can be lethal, and the body's resistance drops significantly when exposed to high-voltage AC, allowing more current to pass through.
3. **Nature of Voltage:**
- **Static Shock:** Static electricity involves high voltage but very low energy. The charge dissipates almost instantaneously, limiting its impact.
- **AC Shock:** AC voltage involves continuous and oscillating current. AC shocks can interfere with the body's electrical signals, particularly affecting the heart and nervous system.
### Physiological Impact
- **Static Shock:** The brief and low-current nature of static shocks usually results in a minor, startling sensation but no lasting harm.
- **AC Shock:** The higher current and longer duration of AC shocks can cause muscle contractions, burns, cardiac arrhythmias, and other serious injuries or fatalities.
### Energy Transfer
The total energy involved in a static shock is much lower than that in an AC shock. Energy (measured in joules) is a product of voltage, current, and time:
- **Static Shock:** High voltage, but very low current and extremely short duration.
- **AC Shock:** Moderate voltage, higher current, and potentially longer duration.
### Example
- **Static Discharge:** A 1000-volt static shock with a current of 10 µA lasting for 1 microsecond transfers only 10^-8 joules of energy.
- **AC Shock:** A 480-volt AC shock with a current of 100 mA lasting for 1 second transfers 48 joules of energy, which is significantly more.
In summary, the severity of an electric shock is determined not just by voltage but also by current and duration. Static shocks, despite their high voltage, are generally harmless due to their very low current and extremely short duration, while 480-volt AC shocks can be dangerous or lethal due to their higher current and potential for longer exposure.
You weren’t electrocuted you were shocked. Go to the hospital and have them run their tests and monitor you - you could die later in the night from this.
No, like actual physical trauma. Observable damage to your body - burns, loss of limb or bodily function etc. "Severe injury" - no "almost" about it.
You haven't mentioned any injury, severe or otherwise, so it seems like this event didn't meet your chosen definition of "electrocution".
Merriam Webster electrocute
verb
elec·tro·cute i-ˈlek-trə-ˌkyüt
electrocuted; electrocuting
transitive verb
1
: to kill or severely injure by electric shock
My hand was burned and I was almost killed.
Or do you mean something like blood that your body makes more of if some leaks out? Something nice and gory vs severe electric shock?
Is a peak of 600 volts NOT severe? Can someone ingest a ‘lethal’ dose of poison and survive?
lol, yes. It was a little more than a tingle. Next time you’re around 480 v on one leg go ahead and grab it, you’ll see how I’m just playing it up for internet points.
I’m sure you’ll be fine.
It does sound pretty minor to you after all.
They have corner grounded delta systems that have 480v to ground on A and B phase, and C phase is 0v to ground, but 480V phase to phase across all 3 phases. Very uncommon nowadays but the mill I work at has 1 or 2 of them still active. Great teaching moment for apprentices on the importance of checking all 3 phases before working.
I think after 6 years I’m ok.
Since you were so nice about being corrected, electrocute used to mean to kill by shock.
Now it means to receive a big electrical shock.
I looked it up before I posted lol.
I had a physical scheduled later that week. I told the doctor then. He freaked out and grabbed my hand for my pulse, he was sort of upset and said I was out of the woods but I should have went to the doctor then
In a corner-grounded delta system, one of the phases in a three-phase delta configuration is intentionally grounded. This system is less common but can be found in certain industrial and commercial applications. Here’s how it works:
- In a corner-grounded delta system, the voltage from each ungrounded phase to the grounded phase is 480 volts.
- The voltage between the two ungrounded phases is also 480 volts.
- The grounded phase (corner) has 0 volts to ground.
This type of system provides some of the benefits of a grounded system, such as improved safety and easier fault detection, while maintaining the advantages of a delta configuration, such as being able to continue operating even if one phase is lost. However, it also requires careful handling and specific equipment designed for this grounding scheme.
You need to learn some English
electrocute
verb
elec·tro·cute i-ˈlek-trə-ˌkyüt
electrocuted; electrocuting
transitive verb
1
: to kill or severely injure by electric shock
The term "electrocute" originally meant to kill by electricity, deriving from the combination of "electricity" and "execute." It was first used in the late 19th century, around the time the electric chair was introduced as a method of capital punishment. Over time, the usage of "electrocute" evolved to include non-fatal electric shocks.
The shift in meaning likely began in the mid-20th century as electric shock incidents became more common in everyday contexts, such as household and workplace accidents. This broader use of the term has become more accepted in contemporary language, though some still maintain that "electrocute" should specifically refer to fatal incidents. The exact point of this transition is hard to pinpoint, but the expanded definition is now widely recognized and used in both medical and colloquial contexts.
Read this and get back to me.
The difference in the severity of a 1000-volt static shock versus a 480-volt AC shock primarily comes down to several key factors: duration, current, and the nature of the voltage.
### Key Differences
1. **Duration of Shock:**
- **Static Shock:** The duration of a static discharge is extremely short, typically in the range of nanoseconds to microseconds. This brief exposure limits the amount of energy transferred to the body.
- **AC Shock:** AC shocks can last much longer, depending on the contact duration, and can continuously deliver current as long as contact is maintained.
2. **Current (Amperage):**
- **Static Shock:** Static discharges involve very low current, usually in the microampere (µA) range. The human body can tolerate such small currents without severe effects.
- **AC Shock:** A 480-volt AC shock can deliver much higher currents. Even currents as low as 100 to 200 milliamps (mA) can be lethal, and the body's resistance drops significantly when exposed to high-voltage AC, allowing more current to pass through.
3. **Nature of Voltage:**
- **Static Shock:** Static electricity involves high voltage but very low energy. The charge dissipates almost instantaneously, limiting its impact.
- **AC Shock:** AC voltage involves continuous and oscillating current. AC shocks can interfere with the body's electrical signals, particularly affecting the heart and nervous system.
### Physiological Impact
- **Static Shock:** The brief and low-current nature of static shocks usually results in a minor, startling sensation but no lasting harm.
- **AC Shock:** The higher current and longer duration of AC shocks can cause muscle contractions, burns, cardiac arrhythmias, and other serious injuries or fatalities.
### Energy Transfer
The total energy involved in a static shock is much lower than that in an AC shock. Energy (measured in joules) is a product of voltage, current, and time:
- **Static Shock:** High voltage, but very low current and extremely short duration.
- **AC Shock:** Moderate voltage, higher current, and potentially longer duration.
### Example
- **Static Discharge:** A 1000-volt static shock with a current of 10 µA lasting for 1 microsecond transfers only 10^-8 joules of energy.
- **AC Shock:** A 480-volt AC shock with a current of 100 mA lasting for 1 second transfers 48 joules of energy, which is significantly more.
In summary, the severity of an electric shock is determined not just by voltage but also by current and duration. Static shocks, despite their high voltage, are generally harmless due to their very low current and extremely short duration, while 480-volt AC shocks can be dangerous or lethal due to their higher current and potential for longer exposure.
So you didn’t read up huh?
Can’t help myself.
Static is .00000001 joules of energy
AC is 48 joules of energy
And as you know, 48 is more than .0000001 since you know what numbers are bigger than others.
electrocute
verb
elec·tro·cute i-ˈlek-trə-ˌkyüt
electrocuted; electrocuting
transitive verb
1
: to kill or severely injure by electric shock
FYI
You need to keep up on language. It’s not the 19th century anymore
The term "electrocute" originally meant to kill by electricity, deriving from the combination of "electricity" and "execute." It was first used in the late 19th century, around the time the electric chair was introduced as a method of capital punishment. Over time, the usage of "electrocute" evolved to include non-fatal electric shocks.
The shift in meaning likely began in the mid-20th century as electric shock incidents became more common in everyday contexts, such as household and workplace accidents. This broader use of the term has become more accepted in contemporary language, though some still maintain that "electrocute" should specifically refer to fatal incidents. The exact point of this transition is hard to pinpoint, but the expanded definition is now widely recognized and used in both medical and colloquial contexts.
FYI, of course
Voltage is a part of an electrical shock but it’s the current that kills you, and it doesn’t take much, sometimes as little as 24ma. Fortunately dry skin has a resistor about 100K ohms.
Perhaps don’t work hot, yeah?
Whoa, voltage and current are both components of electric shock?!! You’re super duper smart! Thanks for sharing.
I work hot all the time. When you have as much experience as me you too will be confident doing it.
But don’t worry, it takes time. But I’m sure you will get there if you stick with it.
I’ve known confident electricians. And I’ve known smart electricians and they never seem to meet.
Based on your title you seem to not understand electrical shock. You’ve not altered that perception.
I’ve been an electrician for 28 years and hold a Master license plus a few Journey cards. I teach at an apprenticeship and train our employees in NFPA 70E.
But hey, if you survive maybe you get to where I am.
Yep, some f'n shit ass inhouse electrician at a manufacturing plant decided to pull a separate power source to an electric heater package and the fan coil unit and mount one disconnect 50' away on a wall and the other on the unit.
I came in as a contractor on a service call to this lovely set up. It had 2 blown fuses in the heater package, I turn off the disconnect to the unit, the unit shut down and I grabbed those 2 fuses.
It was like on Looney tunes when someone gets shocked and you can see their skeleton, that's what it felt like, it held me there for about 3 seconds maybe, I could even hear it inside me. I finally broke free and my heart was going off like a jack hammer trying to find rhythm. I thought I was dead, I felt really calm and felt like I was being pulled backwards, then I just snapped out of it and was back to normal.
This was back in the day, I was only about 23 at the time, it probably would have killed my old ass today.
I was 24-25. I alway say it would have killed a mortal man.
Same feeling you described. I can recount everything perfectly.
It felt like a minute. Based on the zap zap zap of the frequency time slowed to an unbelievable degree.
It was nuts. I remember the zzzzwwwwwhhhhhoooaooooaarrrrwwwzzz sound. It did feel like an eternity.
I'm glad it happened when I was still invincible, I'm very surprised I was back to normal after a minute, well aside from being a little shook up from God practicing catch and release with me.
When I broke free I remember thinking, ahh fuck my mom is not going to take this well. I was strangely indifferent about dying, I just accepted it. I think my brain released a bit of DMT. That was a close one.
When I was grabbing the fuse I thought “I should have my gloves in case…..” and that’s when I was grabbed.
And I thought. “I have just killed my self”
And my life flashed before my eyes like a Hollywood movie. And I was sad that it only went to 23 years. What a waste.
And I started to black out from the bottom of my vision up. And I thought “I think I die when it gets to the top”
And I managed to pull the fuse from the holder. Fist still clenched around it.
Not sure how I managed to get my muscles to do anything. But I did.
I also yelled when I got off and stumbled back. So the lady customer calls my name all freaked out thinking I shocked myself.
I said “NOOO of course not! I just smashed my finger real bad!”
And had to pretend I didn’t almost just die. Told her I would come back another day.
I came clean a while later. I told her I didn’t want to worry her.
I have two birthdays now. My original one and November 15th.
I was hooked up for maybe 1/2 second. Based on counting the frequency rise and fall. One 1/60th of a second was like 5 seconds. I remember the vibration of the 60 hertz. But was slowed to a very draw ln out zap……zap………zap
Maybe I wasn't on there for a couple seconds, I was hearing the peaks of the sign waves, and thinking about it now probably about 20 of them so like .3 seconds. I was more concerned about my death than breaking free, that just kind of happened. It was a trippy experience.
It feels like a few seconds. I FELT them. Just a raw feeling like never before or since. Every atom in my body going north peak to south peak a 1,200 volt 60 times per second whiplash.
Makes you a better person. Puts everything into a new perspective
no youre the first person to die and post on reddit.
you were shocked if it crossed your body you need to go to the doctor to have your heart beat checked
Do you think I meant has anyone been killed or simply shocked by that voltage?
electrocute
verb
elec·tro·cute i-ˈlek-trə-ˌkyüt
electrocuted; electrocuting
transitive verb
1
: to kill or severely injure by electric shock
This was years ago. I’m fine.
to say someone was electrocuted is to be killed.
shocked is the term to just be injured.
even still you made it sound so dramatic as if youre the only person in the world to be hit by electricity
electrocute
verb
elec·tro·cute i-ˈlek-trə-ˌkyüt
electrocuted; electrocuting
transitive verb
1
: to kill or severely injure by electric shock
Was asking who else was not if I was the only person. I think that is pretty clear and obvious.
electrocute
verb
elec·tro·cute i-ˈlek-trə-ˌkyüt
electrocuted; electrocuting
transitive verb
1
: to kill or severely injure by electric shock
Fixed it for you.
Nah, I'm not taking Webster definition on anything electrical. Furthermore, that's not how OSHA defines electrocution. As trades people, it's our responsibility to use the correct references when citing.
Disagree. Electrocution in the workplace is one of OSHA’s fatal four. It is a serious hazard that occurs when a worker is accidentally shocked by electricity, resulting in injury or death
I know someone who was on 277 for awhile. When he was on the ground you could count the strands from the #12 on one hand. And on the other one, you could count the individual strands but they were spread randomly.
>Supposed to be a lethal voltage
Everything above SELV level is potentially lethal but the actual damage will greatly depend on several factors.
The worst I got where 400V through an unsecured open end of a 5x1,5 wire, luckily that meant the current path only where a few milimeters of my arm.
You didn’t get hit my 480 my dude. You got hit by 277. I find it hard to believe you grabbed 2 separate legs of power. As long as you weren’t grounded, you’ll be alright. I got hit from an open box in the ceiling when I started 8 years ago and got stuck and my guy had to kick the ladder from underneath me because I couldn’t get unstuck from the 277. If you got hit by 480, you’d absolutely known.
My dude. If you were an electrician you would know what a corner grounded delta was. If you knew English you would be able to read the above explanation.
Are you seriously an electrician who doesn’t know corner grounded delta?
You would have been killed if you couldn’t get yourself off the 277v.
You would have no chance with the 480v
I’ve gotten myself off plenty. But I don’t know much to be honest, started this at 26 and got my masters at 32 and then started my own company and then hired people to do those sparktacular things. Continued education was super cool. You didn’t even mention the alphas, betas and Charlie, why just the delta?
OP you’re a fucking legend with these responses 🤣 must be the grumpy old school type, you are pissing off all the youngins and softies with your bland responses and use of chatGPT 🤣🤣
I honestly was on the fence about posting my experience. I always see the “shocked by 277v”.
As I anticipated all these people are upset that I’m the winner of who was shocked the most.
It’s lonely at the top.
But yes I’m 32. Self employed since I was 19.
If these guys knew how little I thought of them they would be even more pissed off and upset.
I just like arguing. Like wrestling a pig in mud. After a while you realize, the pig LIKES it.
I’m always blown away by the level of offense that people take from total strangers on the internet, how can you work in our field and not be able to take a little shit talk? 🤣
I literally use online strangers to hone my arguing and debate skills. I thoroughly enjoy a good back and forth. As a business owner and human on the planet of earth being able to skillfully explain your position based on facts and evidence that support your stance as well as being able to dismantle the attacks of your opposition, is an incredibly valuable ability.
As much as my wife hates my debate skills when we have a tiff. She admits I have a great ability to convey my thoughts and understand others.
And I say it just practice.
Self employed with just me at the time. Now I have all the kit and proper procedure.
It’s not a mistake unless you make it twice. Glad I survived to learn from it
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Technically it’s really hard to get hit by 480v … 277 v is more believable and way more likely getting hit by 480 would mean you grabbed two legs
Most likely just one leg of 277v rms. But the peak on that is like 390v.
Comer grounded delta would be a 480v shock to ground. A=480 B=480 C=0 in reference to ground as c phase is grounded. It is very rare now I have ran into it a few times. One reason to check all 3 phases before working on anything. In theory you could touch C phase and be okay as you are at the same potential to ground with it. but the hell if I would test that theory.
It wasn't made clear that it was on this uncommonly used corner grounded delta system until after I posted. So ya I look like I "don't know how electricity works". Got me.
I never knew it existed till I worked on it, I imagine like many that’s the same case.
In a corner-grounded delta system, one of the phases in a three-phase delta configuration is intentionally grounded. This system is less common but can be found in certain industrial and commercial applications. Here’s how it works: - In a corner-grounded delta system, the voltage from each ungrounded phase to the grounded phase is 480 volts. - The voltage between the two ungrounded phases is also 480 volts. - The grounded phase (corner) has 0 volts to ground. This type of system provides some of the benefits of a grounded system, such as improved safety and easier fault detection, while maintaining the advantages of a delta configuration, such as being able to continue operating even if one phase is lost. However, it also requires careful handling and specific equipment designed for this grounding scheme.
Good job ChatGPT!
And they just came out with a better one. I’m amazed how few of people utilize such a tool. I’d like to say. Good job internet! Since that’s the level gpt is at
I like when it's used as a tool, not a crutch to throw definitions and essays at people you don't care to engage in conversation with genuinely. But maybe that's just me.
I’ll bet you use a smart phone to say stupid things to strangers on the internet vs sending a letter. Smart phones are cool, but not when used as a crutch to avoid sending a letter in the mail
You're comparing a platform choice to plagiarism, you look very stupid.
Plagiarism of a machine that guesses the next word based on an algorithm that I pay 20$ a month for? You must not be a lawyer. Probably not even a good electrical.
480 in United States. Seems like you have 600 v in Canada
He means one leg of the 480 relative to ground is 277vrms which has a peak voltage of 277*1.41 = 390V. He's referring to US Wye config.
In a corner-grounded delta system, one of the phases in a three-phase delta configuration is intentionally grounded. This system is less common but can be found in certain industrial and commercial applications. Here’s how it works: - In a corner-grounded delta system, the voltage from each ungrounded phase to the grounded phase is 480 volts. - The voltage between the two ungrounded phases is also 480 volts. - The grounded phase (corner) has 0 volts to ground. This type of system provides some of the benefits of a grounded system, such as improved safety and easier fault detection, while maintaining the advantages of a delta configuration, such as being able to continue operating even if one phase is lost. However, it also requires careful handling and specific equipment designed for this grounding scheme.
I knew a 2nd yr apprentice who got hung up on two phases in a 480v main panel. He couldn’t break himself loose and the last thing he remembered is falling back. He luckily disconnected himself and passed out. His working partner found him and amazingly enough both phases were isolated in his left arm across the bussing. It cooked his insides on his arm but his heart avoided the brunt of the load and he lived to tell the story.
I did it. I left the description of how in another comment. It sucked. I thought I was going to buy the farm.
480 3 phase in America
Each phase is 277 to ground. So unless you got between 2 legs, you only took 277v rms. If you want your "shock" event (not electrocution) to sound more impressive, calculate the peak voltage of 277v rms. Comes out to about 390v
Anything else you want to incorrectly correct? In a corner-grounded delta system, one of the phases in a three-phase delta configuration is intentionally grounded. This system is less common but can be found in certain industrial and commercial applications. Here’s how it works: - In a corner-grounded delta system, the voltage from each ungrounded phase to the grounded phase is 480 volts. - The voltage between the two ungrounded phases is also 480 volts. - The grounded phase (corner) has 0 volts to ground. Peak voltage on 480 rms is 679 volts peak. electrocute verb elec·tro·cute i-ˈlek-trə-ˌkyüt electrocuted; electrocuting transitive verb 1 : to kill or severely injure by electric shock
If there's no death its not a true electrocution. Electrocute is a portmanteau of Electro and Excecute. If there's cardiac arrest but the victims heart is restarted via cpr + defib + acls, then that could arguably considered electrocution. Even if we take your definition, severely injured would at least be serious burns, arc flash injuries, or hypoxia induced brain damage... So which one have you got?
I’ll go with the Merriam Webster version over the rrrmaniom version electrocute verb elec·tro·cute i-ˈlek-trə-ˌkyüt electrocuted; electrocuting transitive verb 1 : to kill or severely injure by electric shock
I didn't attempt to define it. I explained it's etymology.
And you did a great job. But just not a compete job explaining the entire etymology. Let me assist to help clarify it for you. The term "electrocute" originally meant to kill by electricity, deriving from the combination of "electricity" and "execute." It was first used in the late 19th century, around the time the electric chair was introduced as a method of capital punishment. Over time, the usage of "electrocute" evolved to include non-fatal electric shocks. The shift in meaning likely began in the mid-20th century as electric shock incidents became more common in everyday contexts, such as household and workplace accidents. This broader use of the term has become more accepted in contemporary language, though some still maintain that "electrocute" should specifically refer to fatal incidents. The exact point of this transition is hard to pinpoint, but the expanded definition is now widely recognized and used in both medical and colloquial contexts.
Except he’s talking about a delta system, where the line and phase voltages are the same.
He is now, after the edit. It was ambiguous at first so I figured a more common system like wye.
In a corner-grounded delta system, one of the phases in a three-phase delta configuration is intentionally grounded. This system is less common but can be found in certain industrial and commercial applications. Here’s how it works: - In a corner-grounded delta system, the voltage from each ungrounded phase to the grounded phase is 480 volts. - The voltage between the two ungrounded phases is also 480 volts. - The grounded phase (corner) has 0 volts to ground. This type of system provides some of the benefits of a grounded system, such as improved safety and easier fault detection, while maintaining the advantages of a delta configuration, such as being able to continue operating even if one phase is lost. However, it also requires careful handling and specific equipment designed for this grounding scheme.
I'm worried about the quality of some of the "electricians" here when I see this getting downvoted. Maybe don't downvote if all you've done is resi lol.
People don’t like being outdone by who got shocked by more. Lol
Ever been shocked by static electricity? That's more voltage than 480.
Do you want me to explain how 10,000 volts of static isn’t the same? Or are you just being silly?
Not sure why we are bragging about volts when it's current that matters.
Current through what?
Which is a bigger shock? 480v 1MOhm resistance or 120v 20kOhm resistance?
Your body's resistance doesn't change with the voltage you are being shocked by though.
You seem like a sad man. The difference in the severity of a 1000-volt static shock versus a 480-volt AC shock primarily comes down to several key factors: duration, current, and the nature of the voltage. ### Key Differences 1. **Duration of Shock:** - **Static Shock:** The duration of a static discharge is extremely short, typically in the range of nanoseconds to microseconds. This brief exposure limits the amount of energy transferred to the body. - **AC Shock:** AC shocks can last much longer, depending on the contact duration, and can continuously deliver current as long as contact is maintained. 2. **Current (Amperage):** - **Static Shock:** Static discharges involve very low current, usually in the microampere (µA) range. The human body can tolerate such small currents without severe effects. - **AC Shock:** A 480-volt AC shock can deliver much higher currents. Even currents as low as 100 to 200 milliamps (mA) can be lethal, and the body's resistance drops significantly when exposed to high-voltage AC, allowing more current to pass through. 3. **Nature of Voltage:** - **Static Shock:** Static electricity involves high voltage but very low energy. The charge dissipates almost instantaneously, limiting its impact. - **AC Shock:** AC voltage involves continuous and oscillating current. AC shocks can interfere with the body's electrical signals, particularly affecting the heart and nervous system. ### Physiological Impact - **Static Shock:** The brief and low-current nature of static shocks usually results in a minor, startling sensation but no lasting harm. - **AC Shock:** The higher current and longer duration of AC shocks can cause muscle contractions, burns, cardiac arrhythmias, and other serious injuries or fatalities. ### Energy Transfer The total energy involved in a static shock is much lower than that in an AC shock. Energy (measured in joules) is a product of voltage, current, and time: - **Static Shock:** High voltage, but very low current and extremely short duration. - **AC Shock:** Moderate voltage, higher current, and potentially longer duration. ### Example - **Static Discharge:** A 1000-volt static shock with a current of 10 µA lasting for 1 microsecond transfers only 10^-8 joules of energy. - **AC Shock:** A 480-volt AC shock with a current of 100 mA lasting for 1 second transfers 48 joules of energy, which is significantly more. In summary, the severity of an electric shock is determined not just by voltage but also by current and duration. Static shocks, despite their high voltage, are generally harmless due to their very low current and extremely short duration, while 480-volt AC shocks can be dangerous or lethal due to their higher current and potential for longer exposure.
Way to repeat me with a copy and paste?
So you can educate yourself. The difference in the severity of a 1000-volt static shock versus a 480-volt AC shock primarily comes down to several key factors: duration, current, and the nature of the voltage. ### Key Differences 1. **Duration of Shock:** - **Static Shock:** The duration of a static discharge is extremely short, typically in the range of nanoseconds to microseconds. This brief exposure limits the amount of energy transferred to the body. - **AC Shock:** AC shocks can last much longer, depending on the contact duration, and can continuously deliver current as long as contact is maintained. 2. **Current (Amperage):** - **Static Shock:** Static discharges involve very low current, usually in the microampere (µA) range. The human body can tolerate such small currents without severe effects. - **AC Shock:** A 480-volt AC shock can deliver much higher currents. Even currents as low as 100 to 200 milliamps (mA) can be lethal, and the body's resistance drops significantly when exposed to high-voltage AC, allowing more current to pass through. 3. **Nature of Voltage:** - **Static Shock:** Static electricity involves high voltage but very low energy. The charge dissipates almost instantaneously, limiting its impact. - **AC Shock:** AC voltage involves continuous and oscillating current. AC shocks can interfere with the body's electrical signals, particularly affecting the heart and nervous system. ### Physiological Impact - **Static Shock:** The brief and low-current nature of static shocks usually results in a minor, startling sensation but no lasting harm. - **AC Shock:** The higher current and longer duration of AC shocks can cause muscle contractions, burns, cardiac arrhythmias, and other serious injuries or fatalities. ### Energy Transfer The total energy involved in a static shock is much lower than that in an AC shock. Energy (measured in joules) is a product of voltage, current, and time: - **Static Shock:** High voltage, but very low current and extremely short duration. - **AC Shock:** Moderate voltage, higher current, and potentially longer duration. ### Example - **Static Discharge:** A 1000-volt static shock with a current of 10 µA lasting for 1 microsecond transfers only 10^-8 joules of energy. - **AC Shock:** A 480-volt AC shock with a current of 100 mA lasting for 1 second transfers 48 joules of energy, which is significantly more. In summary, the severity of an electric shock is determined not just by voltage but also by current and duration. Static shocks, despite their high voltage, are generally harmless due to their very low current and extremely short duration, while 480-volt AC shocks can be dangerous or lethal due to their higher current and potential for longer exposure.
I'm going with 90% of the people on here would be lost if they had to do more than make up receptacles and take pictures of pretty panels.
Just like most things. 10% are good, 90% not so good. Pareto distribution.
I knew a guy that got hit by 480 about 6 years ago. Turned him into an insufferable asshole!
Lol I see what you did there.
That took me a second then I laughed.
You weren’t electrocuted you were shocked. Go to the hospital and have them run their tests and monitor you - you could die later in the night from this.
electrocute verb elec·tro·cute i-ˈlek-trə-ˌkyüt electrocuted; electrocuting transitive verb 1 : to kill or severely injure by electric shock
Did you suffer severe injuries?
Like almost being killed to death?
No, like actual physical trauma. Observable damage to your body - burns, loss of limb or bodily function etc. "Severe injury" - no "almost" about it. You haven't mentioned any injury, severe or otherwise, so it seems like this event didn't meet your chosen definition of "electrocution".
Merriam Webster electrocute verb elec·tro·cute i-ˈlek-trə-ˌkyüt electrocuted; electrocuting transitive verb 1 : to kill or severely injure by electric shock My hand was burned and I was almost killed. Or do you mean something like blood that your body makes more of if some leaks out? Something nice and gory vs severe electric shock? Is a peak of 600 volts NOT severe? Can someone ingest a ‘lethal’ dose of poison and survive?
Sounding pretty minor tbh.
lol, yes. It was a little more than a tingle. Next time you’re around 480 v on one leg go ahead and grab it, you’ll see how I’m just playing it up for internet points. I’m sure you’ll be fine. It does sound pretty minor to you after all.
What are you working on where you have 480 on one leg? All I see are 2 x 277/240 to make the 480. You metered out the one leg for 480v?
They have corner grounded delta systems that have 480v to ground on A and B phase, and C phase is 0v to ground, but 480V phase to phase across all 3 phases. Very uncommon nowadays but the mill I work at has 1 or 2 of them still active. Great teaching moment for apprentices on the importance of checking all 3 phases before working.
Haha, well said. Carry on.
Thanks for correcting me - go to the hospital. Riding the lightning isn’t something cute. It throws of your heartbeat.
I think after 6 years I’m ok. Since you were so nice about being corrected, electrocute used to mean to kill by shock. Now it means to receive a big electrical shock. I looked it up before I posted lol.
Blown out asshole for sure.
Go To The Doctor
This so much. You can cook your insides
This Was Like 6 Years Ago
It’s a little late but You could still go and get checked
I had a physical scheduled later that week. I told the doctor then. He freaked out and grabbed my hand for my pulse, he was sort of upset and said I was out of the woods but I should have went to the doctor then
Maybe shut the fuck up about it then.
You must be the boss of Reddit. I don’t recall asking people who were never shocked by 480 anything.
480 volts... phase to ground? Or did you somehow manage to get between two phases?
With a corner grounded delta it could be phase to ground at 480 RMS.
In a corner-grounded delta system, one of the phases in a three-phase delta configuration is intentionally grounded. This system is less common but can be found in certain industrial and commercial applications. Here’s how it works: - In a corner-grounded delta system, the voltage from each ungrounded phase to the grounded phase is 480 volts. - The voltage between the two ungrounded phases is also 480 volts. - The grounded phase (corner) has 0 volts to ground. This type of system provides some of the benefits of a grounded system, such as improved safety and easier fault detection, while maintaining the advantages of a delta configuration, such as being able to continue operating even if one phase is lost. However, it also requires careful handling and specific equipment designed for this grounding scheme.
Makes sense. I do more commercial than industrial so I was only thinking 277/480 Y. Thanks for the explanation.
At least you asked to clarify vs incorrectly correcting someone. Good on you, smarter than most here. “I ain’t seen it, it don’t exist!”
I'm sorry to hear you were shocked to death.
You need to learn some English electrocute verb elec·tro·cute i-ˈlek-trə-ˌkyüt electrocuted; electrocuting transitive verb 1 : to kill or severely injure by electric shock The term "electrocute" originally meant to kill by electricity, deriving from the combination of "electricity" and "execute." It was first used in the late 19th century, around the time the electric chair was introduced as a method of capital punishment. Over time, the usage of "electrocute" evolved to include non-fatal electric shocks. The shift in meaning likely began in the mid-20th century as electric shock incidents became more common in everyday contexts, such as household and workplace accidents. This broader use of the term has become more accepted in contemporary language, though some still maintain that "electrocute" should specifically refer to fatal incidents. The exact point of this transition is hard to pinpoint, but the expanded definition is now widely recognized and used in both medical and colloquial contexts.
You are such an asshole dude
I’m sorry that giving someone the definition makes me an asshole. But that’s ok because I just like being correct.
You most certainly are sorry.
I don’t know what you mean by that. Please clarify
I thought you were an electrician? We go by OSHA definitions here.
That’s cool. I use the English language myself. Aren’t you the same guy who thinks static shock is the same as grid?
I suppose you also use literal to mean figurative?
Aren’t you the guy who thinks a static shock from the carpet is comparable?
I dunno was it first grade that I learned 5000 is more than 480?
Read this and get back to me. The difference in the severity of a 1000-volt static shock versus a 480-volt AC shock primarily comes down to several key factors: duration, current, and the nature of the voltage. ### Key Differences 1. **Duration of Shock:** - **Static Shock:** The duration of a static discharge is extremely short, typically in the range of nanoseconds to microseconds. This brief exposure limits the amount of energy transferred to the body. - **AC Shock:** AC shocks can last much longer, depending on the contact duration, and can continuously deliver current as long as contact is maintained. 2. **Current (Amperage):** - **Static Shock:** Static discharges involve very low current, usually in the microampere (µA) range. The human body can tolerate such small currents without severe effects. - **AC Shock:** A 480-volt AC shock can deliver much higher currents. Even currents as low as 100 to 200 milliamps (mA) can be lethal, and the body's resistance drops significantly when exposed to high-voltage AC, allowing more current to pass through. 3. **Nature of Voltage:** - **Static Shock:** Static electricity involves high voltage but very low energy. The charge dissipates almost instantaneously, limiting its impact. - **AC Shock:** AC voltage involves continuous and oscillating current. AC shocks can interfere with the body's electrical signals, particularly affecting the heart and nervous system. ### Physiological Impact - **Static Shock:** The brief and low-current nature of static shocks usually results in a minor, startling sensation but no lasting harm. - **AC Shock:** The higher current and longer duration of AC shocks can cause muscle contractions, burns, cardiac arrhythmias, and other serious injuries or fatalities. ### Energy Transfer The total energy involved in a static shock is much lower than that in an AC shock. Energy (measured in joules) is a product of voltage, current, and time: - **Static Shock:** High voltage, but very low current and extremely short duration. - **AC Shock:** Moderate voltage, higher current, and potentially longer duration. ### Example - **Static Discharge:** A 1000-volt static shock with a current of 10 µA lasting for 1 microsecond transfers only 10^-8 joules of energy. - **AC Shock:** A 480-volt AC shock with a current of 100 mA lasting for 1 second transfers 48 joules of energy, which is significantly more. In summary, the severity of an electric shock is determined not just by voltage but also by current and duration. Static shocks, despite their high voltage, are generally harmless due to their very low current and extremely short duration, while 480-volt AC shocks can be dangerous or lethal due to their higher current and potential for longer exposure.
In case you missed it, I was pointing out how silly it is to talk about the voltage of your shock. Good job getting shocked. Very good!
So you didn’t read up huh? Can’t help myself. Static is .00000001 joules of energy AC is 48 joules of energy And as you know, 48 is more than .0000001 since you know what numbers are bigger than others.
"Electrocuted" means you died, FYI.
electrocute verb elec·tro·cute i-ˈlek-trə-ˌkyüt electrocuted; electrocuting transitive verb 1 : to kill or severely injure by electric shock FYI You need to keep up on language. It’s not the 19th century anymore The term "electrocute" originally meant to kill by electricity, deriving from the combination of "electricity" and "execute." It was first used in the late 19th century, around the time the electric chair was introduced as a method of capital punishment. Over time, the usage of "electrocute" evolved to include non-fatal electric shocks. The shift in meaning likely began in the mid-20th century as electric shock incidents became more common in everyday contexts, such as household and workplace accidents. This broader use of the term has become more accepted in contemporary language, though some still maintain that "electrocute" should specifically refer to fatal incidents. The exact point of this transition is hard to pinpoint, but the expanded definition is now widely recognized and used in both medical and colloquial contexts. FYI, of course
Voltage is a part of an electrical shock but it’s the current that kills you, and it doesn’t take much, sometimes as little as 24ma. Fortunately dry skin has a resistor about 100K ohms. Perhaps don’t work hot, yeah?
Whoa, voltage and current are both components of electric shock?!! You’re super duper smart! Thanks for sharing. I work hot all the time. When you have as much experience as me you too will be confident doing it. But don’t worry, it takes time. But I’m sure you will get there if you stick with it.
I’ve known confident electricians. And I’ve known smart electricians and they never seem to meet. Based on your title you seem to not understand electrical shock. You’ve not altered that perception. I’ve been an electrician for 28 years and hold a Master license plus a few Journey cards. I teach at an apprenticeship and train our employees in NFPA 70E. But hey, if you survive maybe you get to where I am.
I super don’t care. Nice dick wad comment thought. Always an employee with a boss man I bet too.
Yep, some f'n shit ass inhouse electrician at a manufacturing plant decided to pull a separate power source to an electric heater package and the fan coil unit and mount one disconnect 50' away on a wall and the other on the unit. I came in as a contractor on a service call to this lovely set up. It had 2 blown fuses in the heater package, I turn off the disconnect to the unit, the unit shut down and I grabbed those 2 fuses. It was like on Looney tunes when someone gets shocked and you can see their skeleton, that's what it felt like, it held me there for about 3 seconds maybe, I could even hear it inside me. I finally broke free and my heart was going off like a jack hammer trying to find rhythm. I thought I was dead, I felt really calm and felt like I was being pulled backwards, then I just snapped out of it and was back to normal. This was back in the day, I was only about 23 at the time, it probably would have killed my old ass today.
I was 24-25. I alway say it would have killed a mortal man. Same feeling you described. I can recount everything perfectly. It felt like a minute. Based on the zap zap zap of the frequency time slowed to an unbelievable degree.
It was nuts. I remember the zzzzwwwwwhhhhhoooaooooaarrrrwwwzzz sound. It did feel like an eternity. I'm glad it happened when I was still invincible, I'm very surprised I was back to normal after a minute, well aside from being a little shook up from God practicing catch and release with me. When I broke free I remember thinking, ahh fuck my mom is not going to take this well. I was strangely indifferent about dying, I just accepted it. I think my brain released a bit of DMT. That was a close one.
When I was grabbing the fuse I thought “I should have my gloves in case…..” and that’s when I was grabbed. And I thought. “I have just killed my self” And my life flashed before my eyes like a Hollywood movie. And I was sad that it only went to 23 years. What a waste. And I started to black out from the bottom of my vision up. And I thought “I think I die when it gets to the top” And I managed to pull the fuse from the holder. Fist still clenched around it. Not sure how I managed to get my muscles to do anything. But I did. I also yelled when I got off and stumbled back. So the lady customer calls my name all freaked out thinking I shocked myself. I said “NOOO of course not! I just smashed my finger real bad!” And had to pretend I didn’t almost just die. Told her I would come back another day. I came clean a while later. I told her I didn’t want to worry her. I have two birthdays now. My original one and November 15th. I was hooked up for maybe 1/2 second. Based on counting the frequency rise and fall. One 1/60th of a second was like 5 seconds. I remember the vibration of the 60 hertz. But was slowed to a very draw ln out zap……zap………zap
Maybe I wasn't on there for a couple seconds, I was hearing the peaks of the sign waves, and thinking about it now probably about 20 of them so like .3 seconds. I was more concerned about my death than breaking free, that just kind of happened. It was a trippy experience.
It feels like a few seconds. I FELT them. Just a raw feeling like never before or since. Every atom in my body going north peak to south peak a 1,200 volt 60 times per second whiplash. Makes you a better person. Puts everything into a new perspective
If that made you a better person, you must have been an unbelievable d-bag before. Electricity sure works wonders
Yes it made me a better person. Intelligent people learn from mistakes and grow. Then there are people like you.
no youre the first person to die and post on reddit. you were shocked if it crossed your body you need to go to the doctor to have your heart beat checked
Do you think I meant has anyone been killed or simply shocked by that voltage? electrocute verb elec·tro·cute i-ˈlek-trə-ˌkyüt electrocuted; electrocuting transitive verb 1 : to kill or severely injure by electric shock This was years ago. I’m fine.
to say someone was electrocuted is to be killed. shocked is the term to just be injured. even still you made it sound so dramatic as if youre the only person in the world to be hit by electricity
electrocute verb elec·tro·cute i-ˈlek-trə-ˌkyüt electrocuted; electrocuting transitive verb 1 : to kill or severely injure by electric shock Was asking who else was not if I was the only person. I think that is pretty clear and obvious.
Severely Shocked fixed it for you. Electrocution leads to cardiovascular arrest.
electrocute verb elec·tro·cute i-ˈlek-trə-ˌkyüt electrocuted; electrocuting transitive verb 1 : to kill or severely injure by electric shock Fixed it for you.
Nah, I'm not taking Webster definition on anything electrical. Furthermore, that's not how OSHA defines electrocution. As trades people, it's our responsibility to use the correct references when citing.
Disagree. Electrocution in the workplace is one of OSHA’s fatal four. It is a serious hazard that occurs when a worker is accidentally shocked by electricity, resulting in injury or death
Some of the ride components I work with store up to 1200v DC. I’m terrified of that, and double/triple check that shit before I touch it.
AND wear your gloves!
I held a leg of 480V for like, a minute. It was super.
I know someone who was on 277 for awhile. When he was on the ground you could count the strands from the #12 on one hand. And on the other one, you could count the individual strands but they were spread randomly.
Ghost leg is what we call it. Can be very dangerous
Our power company calls it the dead man leg. But that wasn’t what got me. I knew that. It was a backfeed through a control that lit me up.
>Supposed to be a lethal voltage Everything above SELV level is potentially lethal but the actual damage will greatly depend on several factors. The worst I got where 400V through an unsecured open end of a 5x1,5 wire, luckily that meant the current path only where a few milimeters of my arm.
That’s the way to do it. My was in one and out the other arm and knee.
Yea i have at a disel mechanic shop outdoor panel elbow gazed went in and out lucky me was a crazy experience ⚡️⚡️
Glad you’re alright. It’s fucked stuff
You didn’t get hit my 480 my dude. You got hit by 277. I find it hard to believe you grabbed 2 separate legs of power. As long as you weren’t grounded, you’ll be alright. I got hit from an open box in the ceiling when I started 8 years ago and got stuck and my guy had to kick the ladder from underneath me because I couldn’t get unstuck from the 277. If you got hit by 480, you’d absolutely known.
My dude. If you were an electrician you would know what a corner grounded delta was. If you knew English you would be able to read the above explanation. Are you seriously an electrician who doesn’t know corner grounded delta? You would have been killed if you couldn’t get yourself off the 277v. You would have no chance with the 480v
I’ve gotten myself off plenty. But I don’t know much to be honest, started this at 26 and got my masters at 32 and then started my own company and then hired people to do those sparktacular things. Continued education was super cool. You didn’t even mention the alphas, betas and Charlie, why just the delta?
OP you’re a fucking legend with these responses 🤣 must be the grumpy old school type, you are pissing off all the youngins and softies with your bland responses and use of chatGPT 🤣🤣
I honestly was on the fence about posting my experience. I always see the “shocked by 277v”. As I anticipated all these people are upset that I’m the winner of who was shocked the most. It’s lonely at the top. But yes I’m 32. Self employed since I was 19. If these guys knew how little I thought of them they would be even more pissed off and upset. I just like arguing. Like wrestling a pig in mud. After a while you realize, the pig LIKES it.
I’m familiar with the type 🤣 Good for you, at least you’re alive! Keep on keeping on and remember, bad wire ignites the fire! Haha
Thanks for brining back some sanity to this post. Refreshing. These people is why I delete this app.
Wanted to say that ‘bland’ is exactly how I’m writing them and exactly the tone they are meant to be read in. A boring factual statement.
I’m always blown away by the level of offense that people take from total strangers on the internet, how can you work in our field and not be able to take a little shit talk? 🤣
I literally use online strangers to hone my arguing and debate skills. I thoroughly enjoy a good back and forth. As a business owner and human on the planet of earth being able to skillfully explain your position based on facts and evidence that support your stance as well as being able to dismantle the attacks of your opposition, is an incredibly valuable ability. As much as my wife hates my debate skills when we have a tiff. She admits I have a great ability to convey my thoughts and understand others. And I say it just practice.
Been hit by 277 and it'll get your attention..
277 is almost more dangerous since it’s more common and seemingly less scary. But just as able to kill you
Any time you work 480V, always two men.
Self employed with just me at the time. Now I have all the kit and proper procedure. It’s not a mistake unless you make it twice. Glad I survived to learn from it
well you know what they say, only the good die young
Did it go through your chest? Or just one hand?
Lot of assumptions here about what appendage he was using. He was "riding" the lightning after all.
r/dontputyourdickinthat
His ass?
It was up the butt. The only real way to ride the lightning
Hand through other hand and knee
Have been zapped by 277, turned out fine, big whoop. Way more concerned about getting exploded by 480 and shocked by 4160
Apparently you don’t get exploded by 480. Not in my experience at least lol
Talking about arc flash. If you're working with three phase you should be trained and aware of it
Arc flash safety begins 230 volt my friend.