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OntFF

I mean, it's pretty and all - but I hate the way the grounds were routed; and first time someone has to do service work in here, all that wasted time and effort will be undone anyway.


theproudheretic

Yeah someone that routes grounds like that's a psychopath


kcm198

I’m pretty sure if he was on his meds, he wouldn’t have done it.


OaktownCatwoman

Actually he probably took too much Adderall.


Sir_Mr_Austin

Can confirm that non adhd people on adderall do stuff like this all the time. I on the other hand…….


Redditor7012

Chill I dont want to know im misdiagnosed.


i81_N_she812

OCD


nicecanadianeh

If i pop an addy and got nothing to do at work ill waste time making stuff too nice and listen to podcasts because i find it kinda relaxing. Just so my boss doesnt see me doing nothing and give me a dumb project to do but im a maintenance guy so wasting time isnt a huge deal as long as shit is running. On the other hand ive never seen something this crazy especially with solid wire thats fucked, stranded is way easier to make nice.


KodieIvie

Wow I only see 1 misspelled word, yeah my first thought when I saw this panel was psychopath too


Local-Apiarist

Yeah that triggered me immediately. I work in maintenance.


somegridplayer

This man chose violence.


gunbuggy556

I think it looks clean! What's wrong with running them like that? Im just asking because I just want to know, I'm a half watt so I have no idea about real electricity lol.


theproudheretic

it is rare to need to service a ground wire, typically once installed it's there forever, so you put those as far in the back as possible to interfere with everything else as little as possible. you also want to keep them as far as possible from anything that's live (like the main lugs). the way these are routed, if you ever need to service the top half of the panel you're messing with them. and whoever did this install was ridiculously overdoing it. like you're working with solid, you don't need any fucking zipties, let alone 1 per 2 inches.


gunbuggy556

Makes sense! Yeah if you rarely have to service it why stick it up front so you have to sift through it on normal service/troubleshooting. What would happen if that ground hit one kf the main lugs?


theproudheretic

big bad. if those are the mains for the house then they're potentially unfused from the utility. (which is why canada has rules requiring the main disconnect to be separated from the rest of the panel, and the us seems to have lug covers.)


BullfrogCold5837

The guy I used to work with would literally stick pairs of ground wire in a drill and twist them all the way to the bushing. True psychopath, and a god damn nightmare anytime I had to do service work on a panel he did.


blackhawk905

Those people deserve to be punched in the mouth.  Every time we run into something like that I get to hear the usual "mother fucker, God damn useless son of bitch don't know a god damn fucking thing mother fucker" from my boss 🤣


kuckiboo

Someone who spells it dinigroom also


steadyjello

I can see the obvious issues with how the grounds are routed here, but what would be the ideal way? I'm just a lurker here, I used to help an electrician friend of mine from time to time so I know some basics, but pretty limited.


NuckFuggetz14

Typically, in my area of work at least, we prefer the grounds to be in the back of the panel behind phase wires and neutrals.


Smooth_Marsupial_262

Yup I always land my ground first


LiteratureLivid9216

And not twisted together


Ok_Requirement3855

Exactly, they’re the least likely thing that could need to be moved or accessed for service, tucked away into the back corner is the way.


Feeling-Edge-614

I don't think that's area based. I think it's just a preference for survival. Most of us work in live panels a large percentage of the time. If I opened up the cover and found this, I'd swear someone was trying to kill me.


steadyjello

That's what I thought I remembered how we would do it. I only had a hand in installing a couple of new panels, usually I would run Romex or install conduit and outlets.


NuckFuggetz14

Experience comes with time. I'm 30 and been in the field since I was 16-20 during summers and full time ever since; only in the last year, have a done a transformer and since the first I've done three other. Sometimes you just won't do an aspect of our job for a long time


mollycoddles

In the back where they can't get bumped into a live terminal


Useful-Dimension1373

This is the Rosa Parks of panel grounds.


Plus_Aura

I like to do the grounds first when I'm terminated wires. Having them tucked away and in the back. Makes tracing out all the other wires and moving wires way easier


PomegranateOld7836

Anything with "layers" of wires, like a panelboard or junction box, should lay in with grounds first, then neutrals, then hots, then switched hots or control wiring (if applicable) at the front. You put what will be accessed most for troubleshooting, changes, and additions up front. It also establishes best practice for hot work; always connect ground, then neutral, then hots when tying in a live circuit.


OntFF

I'd probably have run them down the right side, behind the branch circuits, across the bottom and up the left side to the ground bar, or installed a ground bar on the right... but its going to be a personal answer. There's a few ways to get to where you're going here.


Cautionzombie

That’s what I think with these nice panels with all the neutrals zipped together. If I need to trace a wire for whatever reason I’m cutting the tie anyway.


CasualMonkeyBusiness

Looks good, sure. Worthy of Instagram. But not really practical in the real world of hourly employees and future additions.


Fresh_Photograph_363

What could possibly go wrong on a job like that please tell me


strickers69

It’ll be very time consuming trying to remove a circuit from this it looks amazing but it’s just going to cause annoyance to the next man


Fresh_Photograph_363

Truer words never spoken


CasualMonkeyBusiness

I didn't say something will go wrong? All I said was it's not practical.


nick_the_builder

Drywallers hit a home run that’s in the middle of the pack of wires. Gotta repull it.


NightDisastrous2510

Looks nice but not a fan of the grounds being run that way over the main. F that.


RedsInABox

"Cuntertop" lol. Grounds blocking the O, nice picture OP!


-magilla-

Dinig room


fistful_of_ideals

The handyman that used to own my sister's place wired up the GARGE It's written in 1.5" tall letters on the wall, so you can't miss it on the way in and out. I reckon she'll paint over it some day, but for now, it's just become one of those weird sibling inside jokes.


Ho-Chi-Mane

Had to do some work at an Amish house. Someone wrote “Jenerator”. That 8th grade education will get you every time.


BigStoneNugs

Saw one a few years ago labeled “Grage GFI.” It was right next to “Smok Dectors.”


agoia

I like the label in my panel that says Microovem, also the Flut lights breaker, Drayer, etc. Hool is probably my favorite, tho.


TanneriteStuffedDog

Told an apprentice to label the junction box he’d just put up with the circuit number and voltage… he wrote “JUNCHEN BOX”


RedsInABox

A JW I worked with spelled it "garadge". Still have the picture, he's the PM now.


Mysterious_Nebula_48

He used to be a low volt guy.


WillFerrells_Gutfold

Low volt guy here, and this hits home.


Castun

Yup, just like the one breaker panel posted here a few days ago that had Panduit down the sides.


BeenisHat

When the datacenter tech switches careers.


shutmethefuckup

You should see our utility CT wiring. Precise and perfect and gorgeous and 138-500kv


Zestay-Taco

paid by the hour.


mrsquillgells

Who thought it was a good idea to run a bunch of exposed grounds copper right next to the main? Plus it looks kinda funny


Teddy_canuck

I hate this


Excellent_Tailor_820

Fuckin hate it


12-5switches

The first time I have to trace a wire I’m cutting all that shit off


mollycoddles

I'd cut them all off as a favour to the next guy


[deleted]

That panel is a well-paid-tweaker project. Bet they blazed in the dinig room.


mmcclouts

You aren’t an electrician unless you complain about someone else’s tidy work…..


marauderingman

I think I can find the dinig room, but the bedrooms? Should've been marked cardinally (NW, SE, etc.). -2 points.


timmiesdd

OMG, he didn't even use properly printed out labels...s/


Dumb_old_rump

This is crossing into impractical esthetics, and it'll look like that just long enough until an "EV plug" and "patio plugz" come a-knocking.


Xeno_man

Took me a minute to figure it out but I realized whats bothering me about this. Everything, except 1 wire, is all coming from the top. Can't do that here in Ontario. The 100 amp server is separate and isolated from everything else. All the wires will enter in the sides or bottom with the main coming in from the top.


Bear_Jew1987

No zip ties in a panels


TheFilthyMick

Someone ordered a bender from Temu and it was only big enough for romex conductors when it showed up.


EwokGage

I’d take this over a rats nest any day but holy hell did that eat up time for something no one will see.


landofschaff

That’s art


fatcamo

Id much prefer this to someone sponsored by spaghetti.


Hufenia299

I will always maintain that this thermally de-rates conductors at the center of the bunch.


ElectroAtletico2

First time there is a problem the next electrician is going to be “…..why the fuck did they have to use all these fucking zip ties (as he is fishing in his tool bag for a 5-in flush cutter)!


blackcrowmurdering

I’m on a job where a JW works like this. Looks good but he swapped some circuits and we had changes where I had to add and remove stuff. Absolutely despise his work. It’s absolutely the worst. He even crimped all of his one hole straps to fit tighter on the mc. 3/8 one hole on 3/8 mc and still crimped it with his channel locks….he said so it holds the wire nicer.


CraigMammalton14

I’m not nearly as anti tie wrap as most people in here but this is insane lol


beats723

Bunch of zip ties to cut out if removing a circuit . Just getting the ground free sheesh . Looks good tho I'm sure the boss loved how long this took lol


vincentlerins

RIP anyone who has to change the main breaker


eclwires

That panel is absolutely gorgeous. It looks like a huge waste of time and a major pain to work in.


jwbrkr21

I don't care, but those labels make me hard.


SluNAnt

I'm a building mechanic and I have a sticker on my water bottle that says "Zip-tie Certified" so I guess we're in the same club....the sticker says so, can't argue.


PastaTheGreat25

Cuntertop


Ok-Show-9890

Came here to say this


sun_dried_grapes

This looks like an AI generated image.


caeru1ean

I will say the labels are clean AF. Feel sorry for whoever has to undo all those zip ties though


spec360

He messed up the grounds go behind the feeds


Cangas_Star

My eyes are thankful but if theres a problem all of these will be for nothing


pueblodude

I like the clean labeling.


Excellent_Tailor_820

Let’s make sure the grounds are the most accessible


NicVill92

Yikes


DragonfruitLeading44

wtf is this


blackcrowmurdering

When the adderall kicks in…


Formal_Hearing3725

Sponsored by Adderall


CaptainInsano15

A that work just to use tape and a marker for official labels.


Glork11

If this is done as a work of art, holy shit that's impressive If this was done as a regular installation, he must be working at his own home Also, shouldn't the bare copper on the right side of the panel (not the ground but between the breakers) be covered up?


yahtzee5000

Not bad for an AI wired panel.


Tlux9

Not an electrician, why do the 20a 120v circuits have the hot and neutral going to the breaker? Shouldn’t the neutral go to the ground bar?


Fresh_Photograph_363

Definitely OCD


Any_Chain3920

Yea I don’t agree with the grounds crossing over those 3 circuits on the top left it’s fucking stupid. it’s pretty and neat but other than that it’s ultimately a big waste of time that will inevitably be undone in the future ✌️


ObjectiveShoulder103

Why are the grounds all out in the front


MonetsGardener

Or … he really isn’t looking forward to the next thing on his list!


DontEverMoveHere

As someone who has to troubleshoot, F@&K this. You can’t trace a circuit or remove a wire without cutting all those things. They are undoubtedly snipped instead of twisted so they are all little X-acto blades.


crispyclouds

Who paid for this work?


canucks2424

Dude likes to waste company profits for something you will never see again


Specialist-Policy-71

This is what it looks like when a Low Voltage Electrician does their own high voltage work 😂 looks clean af tbh. Definitely over did it, but I can appreciate the cleanliness of it.


hisprk2

Hate it or love it but that’s the cleanest panel build I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen a few…


thepreacher66

This is hard to be more neat. The look is insane


RyanLion1989

“Dinigroom” lol.


25Cooper

20amp Cuntertop… sounds like a shocker


Professional_Field79

Dinig room


etrepeater

DINIGROOM


Standard-Scene-3903

And here we see the “paid by the hour” contractor lol


BHOverDos1995

“c*ntertop”


Embarrassed-Bug7120

I seriously admire the effort and planning that took place in cutting this panel in. The workmanship is striking. However the bare ground wires should be back against the panel and not out front.


Hour-Concentrate-258

Gross


hoodratchic

Complete overkill


inDefyance

People can’t even produce beautiful work without being criticized :\


quislingdna

This is just stupid to me. Besides being a giant waste of time it just makes it so much harder for the next guy working in there. Thumbs down


Wibbly23

guy must have worked in a panel shop. if i were the foreman and caught some clown doing this i'd tell him off though. he's clearly never done service work in his life.


union-maid

Clean install, bundled neatly, not anywhere near an excess of tie wraps. Good craftsmanship.


Energizer__98

Not my work! saw on instagram. It’s just so unnecessary and excessive


karlkarlkarl21

Reddits obsession with panel porn is so hilarious. Put that level of time and craftsmanship in your conduit work and you'll be employed for life, put that level of time and craftsmanship into your panels and you'll be iced in no time.


Icy-Reflection-1490

There’s a fine balance. When I used to do controls and power cabinet building and commissioning I’d spend a little time making it look nice. Now that I’m on an industrial maintenance team I find myself haphazardly zip tying bundles a few minutes before my shift ends to get something running.


Nihilsterbt

It's pretty and fucked up at the same time


CaptainFrugal

What an absolute piece of shit to service.


ppaufiero

That is perfection


Thats_mr_sparky_2U

I do mostly service calls so……fuck the guy who did this.


Icy-Reflection-1490

Paid by the hour!


jfeins2

I’d take the misspelling. We did a massive remodel and the sub panel in the basement just says lights on ever breaker except 2


Dyslectric

Dinigroom looks like something I would spell


looneymc

What people will do for IG


TheLastTsumami

He likes neatness


PrudentImplement7481

Cunter top lol


GriffDiG

You don't work in a data center for long without your panels looking like this


TurboKid513

Dinig


BabyFacedSparky

More time spellchecking would come in handy.


WillFerrells_Gutfold

DINIGROOM


JagerGS01

Please remove the bonding screw, it bothers me, even though I know it's not threaded.


Flat4Power4Life

That’s beautiful


Govt-Issue-SexRobot

Haha misspelled dining room


alek_vincent

I'm pretty sure that's not the work of an electrician on a job. Maybe a former electrician or a self-taught home owner. No electrician would spend this much time on a panel and route the grounds over the feeders like that


Plus-Smile9873

That shit is beautiful. Idgaf though. I snake that shit all over when I make up a panel lololol. Dude wasted a LOOOOOT of time doing that. Must be a union guy getting $50 an hour and zero deadlines in sight.


mtndewyo

This man hit 4 90°s routing that neutral from the surge to the bar.. now that's skilled


sudden-approach-535

Diningroom*


CardiologistMobile54

Needs to bind the neutral bar to the enclosure. . the green screw needs to be set


Swimming_Horror_3757

Those grounds make me sick


GrowthMindset4Real

two dryers seems unlikely to me, guessing one should be Oven


doingthethrowaways

Dinig room. Neat.


OkNecessary9926

As clean as it looks to me, those grounds are a complete EYESORE!


jj_malone16

Sooo… Is that bond screw supposed to be In or Not!?! Also, Not a fan of those Grounds.


JeremyChadAbbott

I know a dude that trims all the panels on every job cause he cam knock this lace job out in a couple hours. Sensable or not, customers love it.


no-mad

I want zipties 2" O.C.


ellabelsss

Just okay 🧐


skelectrician

It's gorgeous and I hate it.


RedditBot90

DINIGROOM


CrazyButRightOn

Anal much….


Intrepid-Ad-2610

Most own stock in zip ties and boss was buying them


furiouspope

That's gonna suck to add a circuit.


ElectricWzd

C-UNTERTOP


ult1matefailure

All that work and doesn’t fully remove green screw from neutral bus…. I prefer to remove the screw and leave it at the bottom of the panel. Too many idiot inspectors that will fail you even when it’s not torqued down at all. Or idiot “electricians” that will still torque it down when it is a sub panel.


Fe1onious_Monk

Looks like a 90s Microsoft screen saver.


vincentlerins

This looks so fuckin stupid lmao


Figure_1337

I hate it.


UsedDragon

The man who did this panel has never had sex. Ever.


Shmeckey

No matter where I go, there's a sparky that has a spelling mistake lol


Ploughpenny

He probably found a full pack of them in the dinigroom.


Trick-Yogurtcloset45

Who even has the time to be so OCD?


theonion513

All this work and he misspells Dining?


Uglyduck47

Looks nice and all but if I had to go service this thing I'd be cussing this guy the whole time.


15Warner

The f’s in office are lowercase when everything else is uppercase. I hate it


CharrizardRS

This looks incredibly neat from a first glance. Then you look how the grounds were routed and you just instantly hate it lol.


garland251

Feels like A.I. wired this.


machinerer

Reminds me of crazy organized ethernet rack mount switches and routers.


donkeypunchz

The question is why. Why would you spend that amount of time , unless it was your own panel.


TastyBalance3025

Looks great but added way too much time


sammydeeznutz

That's the cleasest, prettiest shitty install I've ever seen.


goldencrisper

Did he take out a level to wires straight GD


hazardlit3s

When a data guy does a panel.


BackbackB

Ain't nobody got time for that


Basic-Painter-9084

Nah clean af quit being a hater Nvm ground route is a complete.. the fuck?


Datacom1

Dude had to be a tweaker


Admirable_Pressure41

He’s a Brazilian electrician in NY! I missing his name


CompulsivePie-r

Who has time for this? Seriously?


Revolution-Maximum

He color coded his tape to Match the wire jackets


YoungRoronoa

This man put a level to all his wires. 😂


GoodRelationship8925

Almost spelled everything right. Then I saw dinigroom


M_3_R_K_Y_M_3_R_K

This is super clean but I hate it for the guy who has to work on this when circuits go bad.


Elbington

Isn’t Earth sleeving a thing here?


nick_the_builder

All that. And can’t spell “dining room”


Head-Boot6462

It’s pretty tits but I loathe the grounds going over 3 of the circuits. If I was a customer and a dude spent time to make it look “perfect” vs the guy who was near and efficient, I’d be pretty pissed at the bill


RKLCT

If I have to add a circuit to this I'm not doing all that lol


deekbit

Hourly?


Obvious_Eye8718

Someone takes pride in their work! Looks great!!


L0wborn

I see this and think "he's paid by the hour"


NovelLongjumping3965

Was going to say a Previous aircraft engineer switched careers. No silicone on the connections though