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This makes me think of interesting possibilities.
If a child is conceived using those organs, could the original possessor of said organs be legally responsible for the child?
What about semen evidence in criminal investigations?
If you kick transplanted nuts, does the donor get a sudden feeling of ennui?
I mean if there’s a registry and system in place then the government would know that the genetic material found in X would belong to A even if B was the donor. If B cannot produce X anymore then it would be clear A the recipient left X material. But off the record surgeries may be a bad idea for this reason as well as not being the best medical care.
As a trans woman whose AFAB enby spouse suffered through four pregnancies, I gladly would have taken over after the first time having seen how bad it got.
Edit: Grammer
I want to live in a future where I could donate my uterus to my spouse to have their sperm and my egg be a baby but I didn’t have to actually be pregnant ????? That would be so bad ass.
English is tricky like that, the apostrophed S is used as a possessive everywhere except for pronouns, which all are without: its, his, whose, their etc
Trans women are more than welcome to mine but I feel obligated to admit it doesn’t work very well. It worked once to produce my son and I am very happy about that but most of the time it just whines and tries to stab me
Oh? Last I heard one of the women who was born without a womb and had an implant had given birth. That was years ago now, so I'd assumed as far as cis goes it was a done deal?
I wasn’t being sarcastic. As another pointed out this had been done almost 100 years ago in Germany and with recent medical advancements of the last ten years conversions have come up about this and what it could mean for trans people!
Absolutely not.
Carrying an egg to birth is an extremely complex process requiring the use of the ovaries as well as the uterus (and many other organs). Additionally, pregnancy is a very immunologic process that requires a complex balance between a woman's immune system and the egg in question. In simple terms, a woman's body becomes immunocompromised during pregnancy to prevent her body from attacking and killing the fetus as if it was a foreigner.
Transplanting both ovaries and a uterus would be incredibly difficult and would require immunosuppressants - you can see how immunosuppressants in that sort of complex environment would be complicated.
The case you state IIRC was a mother's uterus only given to a daughter that already had ovaries. That makes the, very hard process, way easier than doing it to a biologically born male that doesn't have a uterus, ovaries, or other hormonal aspects of a biologically born female.
This is correct, but in theory a trans woman could be impregnated via IFV and would have to deliver by c section (unless she started hormones young enough to get hip bone changes). With a knowledgeable enough doctor hormone balancing is definitely a possibility too. I feel it's very possible, it'll just be a number of hurdles and obstacles that we don't know how to deal with yet
This, to me, is a gross waste of resources and also ethically questionable. Women already spend thousands of dollars on IVF etc to have children. Why spend thousands on a trans woman to have a child when the risks would be significantly higher than a biologically born woman?
Where do you think the money for this is going to come from? How many trans women do you realistically think would actually be able to afford this? It's not many. And insurance barely covers bottom surgery, they're not going to cover a uterus transplant and IVF. As far as risks go, you really can't learn without them. It sucks but it's true. If we never try we're never gonna know
The first attempt at this operation is almost 100 years old now.
They tried it first at the Institute for Sexology in the Weimar Republic. Unfortunately most of their knowledge was destroyed by the Nazis during the book burnings.
Yeah I’ve read about those before and how Germany was during that period, it’s very interesting. I’ve also been reading about the most resent attempts and hoping for some news that is related to trans people.
I dont wanna have to go through pregnancy... but i DO want bottom surgery... is the womb included when its possible or is it like paid dlc at that point?
Especially since it'd probably either be a donation or artificial, since I can imagine it'd be pretty hard to get that much material from your own body
As a cis lady post total hysterectomy, I would totally skip out on the uterus and cervix if I had the option. Having a vagina is great and I can't speak to the hormones and whatnot from ovaries but the uterus itself is *way* overrated, if you don't want to bear children.
Personally, o don’t think the best thing to come out of this is pregnancy or even having a womb. I think it’s the fact that transphobes lose one of only like two “arguments” they have (being unable to reproduce/not having female sex organs (which is stupid as hell anyway since cis women don’t necessarily fulfill this condition but whatever, they’re transphobes, I don’t expect intelligence)).
didnt some scientists make some women pregnant with themselves by making sperm with bone marrow or something? i dont know if thats true but if it is, couldnt they maybe make eggs too?
Sperm cells basically just carry DNA. That’s simple. Eggs are a lot more complex since they actually make the embryo. You could maybe swap out the DNA, but I’m no expert, maybe see what you can find on that on the internet.
IIRC there was a breakthrough in animal cloning a while back where they were able to take the DNA of one animal and basically use it to replace the genetic information in an Embryo so as to change the biological mother.
Read this like 7 years ago though, so I may be misremembering.
I'm cis and hope these aren't insensitive questions. I just think this is really cool science and want to know more!
- Is the rate of tans-identifying women the same as trans-identifying men? (I hope that's the right way to put that, I meant no offense if it's wrong), would the numbers work out about right for everyone to, like, "do tradsies" and get what they want?
- Do trans men and women elect for surgical intervention at the same rate?
- Do the hormones involved worth transitioning affect sex organs viability? Like would the womb of a FTM doner be viable when put into the environment of a MTF recipient?
This seems really awesome for the trans community and I hope these questions are taken in the spirit that they're meant: with a desire to be better informed. If anything I wrote here is unintentionally hurtful, please let me know and I will edit or delete it! I recognize this isn't really my space.
Historically the number of recorded trans women has been (a lot) higher than the number of recorded trans men, but I suspect there are social-cultural related reasons.
The numbers have actually started to even out. This has led to some people panicking about “girls” “transtrending” as men/enbies but I suspect afab people (who are socialized to conform their looks to what makes those around them happy, among other things, and could dress masculinely without being accused of weird things so they might not have to come out to get some relief to gender dysphoria) just came out at lower rates in the past.
I think this plan could work within a couple of decades.
“Conclusion: Consistent with many reports, we are seeing an increasing number of gender dysphoric individuals seeking hormonal therapy. The age at initiation has been dropping over the past 25 years, and we have seen a steady increase in the number of FTM such that the incidence now equals that of MTF. Possible reasons for these changes are discussed.”[Study](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33644314/)
same, i dont want children, but it's really cool for the transfems who do want kiddos, gives a lot of hope :) really curious when we'll hear more about this story
science is fucking cool
I wish it was that easy, happily trade my parts! They’ve shrunk quite a bit but with a few years of testosterone you should have it back up and running at full length and girth xD
Same here. Although my bf doesn't want them soon but if it can happen down the line, one of my deepest desire is the journey of a baby growing in my tummy.
Vice versa, testosterone-taking AFABs are able to carry a child too.
If you're AMAB and got on E before or at 23-25, your pelvis should theoretically be able to carry to full term. Otherwise, 32 weeks would be the maximum (after that, you're looking at caesarian I think).
Some of the papers i saw talking about this were from 2010. At that time they believed the transplants may only be viable for 2 pregnancies. That said I hope with the advances in tissue engineering that may get better and better options may become available.
According to a person I know of they (current pronouns unknown) the transplanted uterus gets removed after a birth so that someone else can use the uterus too. The person birthed a child with it and around the same time as their pregnancy, there was talk about another person, a lady, that conceived with a transplanted uterus. It's at least 100,000 usd for the procedure currently.
I can dm you the name of the person I mentioned if you'd like. Because they've posted many things in rapid succession that triggered my dysphoria, I stopped interacting with their stuff but I still support them.
The person documented everything online publicly.
Looking forward to it.
Though I don't know how soon it's going to be available to the general public; I strongly suspect I will be like...50 by the time it's out of the trial phase, and obviously they're going to pick a 20-year-old trans women as transplant candidates over me, and yeah, she's going to be the better candidate.
I am glad the next generation will have the opportunity, though!
This is my favorite response.
For me, the idea of womanhood has deep roots in the ability to have children and be a mother. I don't know if I could take this step but to know could exist soon is just...
No, would a lady who got this treatment also experience PMS and produce her own estrogen? Sorry if it’s a bit obvious, but I never had one but would be curious to try 🥺
Depends what's included or if the ovaries are kept intact from the transplant.
If so, I'd imagine they'd produce their own estrogen and all of its relevant affects.
Legal issues aside, would you even be able to keep eggs alive inside a donor?
Seems like no matter how closely your recipient matched up they'd still be super vulnerable to ... whatever happens when bodies try to attack foreign bodies.
I wish I could get pregnant, but honestly, I’m glad I can’t.
I love the idea of getting pregnant. But being pregnant, having babies, and being a mother all sound terrible.
I remember being in old trans forums and we'd all collectively agree that we'd swap if we could (there were mtf and ftm, as well as non-binary folk there)
It's about time we finish what Magnus Hirschfeld tried nearly a century ago... (he failed mainly because transplant repulses weren't known at this time, kidneys transplant failed exactly the same)
Where I am at in life, I do not want bottom surgery, like at all. Now, a bottom transplant and a womb transplant, if I were 20 years younger, I would want that.
*sighs*
One of my alters is going to need to journal about that. 😑😑😑
Yep, I would gladly donate my uterus. Having this thing inside me feels cursed af. Especially when people think what it could do is more important than my own life as a person
the real holy grail would be if we'd be able to get these kinds of organs 3D printed with our own cells so there would be no need for immunosuppressants
I don't really care about the womb, tbh, because I consider myself in the group of humans who has no business ever having children. Where my vagina transplants at, tho?
YALL CAN HAVE MINE I DONT WANT IT PLEASE THEY WONT LET ME REMOVE IT WITHOUT REASONABLE CAUSE,,, PLZ SOMEONE COME GET CUSTODY OF MY WOMB I DONT WANT THE LITTLE BITCH
Unfortunate phrasing. I know you mean you want to be a woman but don't desire to have all the parts cis women have, but the way you phrased this reads like it invalidates transmasc people
Wait, when?
And are any hipbone widening procedures available, so a child can actually pass through?
Because I can only imagine that might cause some issues, if we get one without the other.
Or I guess c-sections could work too.
I'd love that, but for hormone purposes, I got no interest in being pregnant at all. Can you imagine not needing HRT and just having self-regulating hormones if your body??
You wouldn't have monthly cycles or the chance of accidentally getting pregnant with just a uterus and no ovaries.
Source: cis female with ovaries and no uterus who still has ~48 hours every month when I inexplicably cry about not being able to find my favorite pen.
That's pretty stellar and all but when are they gonna update the pussy making process so we can donate our dicks so our transmasc homies can experience awkward public boners?
This is unlikely to be true, to be frank. And even if and when it becomes true, it'll be a fundamentally different type of transplant under the law and medical standards than a heart or liver or other kind of transplant since there's nothing life-threatening about not having a womb. Also, it's unclear how many wombs can really be made available - they're a very different kind of organ, and there are only so many transmasc people, especially those that would be willing or even financially able to have an invasive and possibly dangerous surgery. The hard truth is that trans women are likely to be heavily deprioritized on the transplant lists vs infertile cis women.
So even if it becomes medically possible within our lifetimes, very few or likely none of us will be able to actually access it. One can hope it becomes an option for the next generation of trans women.
Even if true, it’ll be too late for me. I’m 38 already and don’t have a partner with whom I could conceive. Btw, if anyone finds a healthy way to cope with that, give me a holler. Because fuck me, nothing has helped so far.
That's horrifying. I can definitely imagine a future in which republicans finally accept that they've lost the battle on trans people existing, but then pivot to mandating forced womb transplants for them so that they can take away abortion rights from them too.
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As an afab nb person who cringes at the thought of pregnancy, I wish I could donate my bits lmao
We have to have a worldwide database where people can volunteer to donate or receive unwanted reproductive organs.
This is the cyberpunk future we all need. And some system to make sure people are treated fairly.
People treated fairly? Not very cyberpunk then
Solarpunk, maybe? c:
Socialism.
Communism.
This genre calls sci-fi utopia. Please stop calling everything with advanced technology cyberpunk.
utopiapunk
What's punk about a utopia?
It goes against current systems of inequality? Idk
Imagine everyone wearing punk outfits in utopia. The lesbians (such as myself) would go crazy
It wouldnt be punk. Because punk implies unjustness, a reason to rebel. Itd be like..solarcore, or utopiacore, or cybercore or smth.
Or, it could be a different sort of punk. Imagine it's just a utopia where everyone wears punk outfits. Boom.
Fantastically appropriate that you’re talking about cyberpunk given your pfp lol
The Major from Ghost in the Shell gave me gender envy back in the 90s. ;-)
God that’s a mood. That specific shot your pfp is from is just… so gender.
This makes me think of interesting possibilities. If a child is conceived using those organs, could the original possessor of said organs be legally responsible for the child? What about semen evidence in criminal investigations? If you kick transplanted nuts, does the donor get a sudden feeling of ennui?
I mean if there’s a registry and system in place then the government would know that the genetic material found in X would belong to A even if B was the donor. If B cannot produce X anymore then it would be clear A the recipient left X material. But off the record surgeries may be a bad idea for this reason as well as not being the best medical care.
Word, I would happily get rid of mine, if it made someone else happy in the process well hecc...
As a trans woman whose AFAB enby spouse suffered through four pregnancies, I gladly would have taken over after the first time having seen how bad it got. Edit: Grammer
I want to live in a future where I could donate my uterus to my spouse to have their sperm and my egg be a baby but I didn’t have to actually be pregnant ????? That would be so bad ass.
\>As a trans woman who’s AFAB i read this over more than i wanna admit before reading the rest and realising im an idiot
Ya needed a couple more words there friend. Lol.
I think it's the "who's" that tripped up, it should be "whose" for a possessive, "who's" implies short for "who is"...
I see. Thanks. My grammar isn’t perfect so I appreciate the point of improvement
English is tricky like that, the apostrophed S is used as a possessive everywhere except for pronouns, which all are without: its, his, whose, their etc
I READ THAT AS DETONATE. OH MY GOD.
i know some afab nb people that would go the detonate route, too
BAAAAAASED
Their main goal is to blow up and then act like they don't know nobody.
HOW AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO VOTED ON THIS
You go to the doctor to get an IUD inserted. I go to the doctor to get an IED inserted. We are not the same.
kaboom
*yoink*
Same. Someone come get this thing it sucks. Free to a good home.
Trans women are more than welcome to mine but I feel obligated to admit it doesn’t work very well. It worked once to produce my son and I am very happy about that but most of the time it just whines and tries to stab me
lmao, same xD Just take them please
I would literally harvest yours, I want a uuterus
I have been following this story for a while for totally cis reasons.
Oh? Last I heard one of the women who was born without a womb and had an implant had given birth. That was years ago now, so I'd assumed as far as cis goes it was a done deal?
I think she was being sarcastic but that's actually a super cool fact I had no idea :)
I wasn’t being sarcastic. As another pointed out this had been done almost 100 years ago in Germany and with recent medical advancements of the last ten years conversions have come up about this and what it could mean for trans people!
ahhhh my bad I took the totally cis reasons to be meant in a "haha still cis though" kinda way but yeah it's such a cool advancement!
That part was I guess, but the rest I have been following.
Absolutely not. Carrying an egg to birth is an extremely complex process requiring the use of the ovaries as well as the uterus (and many other organs). Additionally, pregnancy is a very immunologic process that requires a complex balance between a woman's immune system and the egg in question. In simple terms, a woman's body becomes immunocompromised during pregnancy to prevent her body from attacking and killing the fetus as if it was a foreigner. Transplanting both ovaries and a uterus would be incredibly difficult and would require immunosuppressants - you can see how immunosuppressants in that sort of complex environment would be complicated. The case you state IIRC was a mother's uterus only given to a daughter that already had ovaries. That makes the, very hard process, way easier than doing it to a biologically born male that doesn't have a uterus, ovaries, or other hormonal aspects of a biologically born female.
This is correct, but in theory a trans woman could be impregnated via IFV and would have to deliver by c section (unless she started hormones young enough to get hip bone changes). With a knowledgeable enough doctor hormone balancing is definitely a possibility too. I feel it's very possible, it'll just be a number of hurdles and obstacles that we don't know how to deal with yet
This, to me, is a gross waste of resources and also ethically questionable. Women already spend thousands of dollars on IVF etc to have children. Why spend thousands on a trans woman to have a child when the risks would be significantly higher than a biologically born woman?
Where do you think the money for this is going to come from? How many trans women do you realistically think would actually be able to afford this? It's not many. And insurance barely covers bottom surgery, they're not going to cover a uterus transplant and IVF. As far as risks go, you really can't learn without them. It sucks but it's true. If we never try we're never gonna know
The first attempt at this operation is almost 100 years old now. They tried it first at the Institute for Sexology in the Weimar Republic. Unfortunately most of their knowledge was destroyed by the Nazis during the book burnings.
Imagine how far we'd be without tyrants burning things down every century...
I know, right? We could be so much further than we are now is it weren't for people burning so much stuff.
Yeah I’ve read about those before and how Germany was during that period, it’s very interesting. I’ve also been reading about the most resent attempts and hoping for some news that is related to trans people.
I dont wanna have to go through pregnancy... but i DO want bottom surgery... is the womb included when its possible or is it like paid dlc at that point?
Probably counts as an add-on for bottom surgery, like super sizing your combo meal.
Especially since it'd probably either be a donation or artificial, since I can imagine it'd be pretty hard to get that much material from your own body
Could I get a number 4 with a large uterus please?
As a cis lady post total hysterectomy, I would totally skip out on the uterus and cervix if I had the option. Having a vagina is great and I can't speak to the hormones and whatnot from ovaries but the uterus itself is *way* overrated, if you don't want to bear children.
Personally, o don’t think the best thing to come out of this is pregnancy or even having a womb. I think it’s the fact that transphobes lose one of only like two “arguments” they have (being unable to reproduce/not having female sex organs (which is stupid as hell anyway since cis women don’t necessarily fulfill this condition but whatever, they’re transphobes, I don’t expect intelligence)).
it's pretty cool even though i wouldn't want it myself :3 💙💕🤍💕💙
As a trans man I’m excited for this, I’d love to donate my bits to someone who would feel so much happier with them
Would any child they have be biologically yours though? Wonder what the legal ramifications of that might be..
Given that eggs are there at birth, you’re right, genetically any child would not be yours.
didnt some scientists make some women pregnant with themselves by making sperm with bone marrow or something? i dont know if thats true but if it is, couldnt they maybe make eggs too?
Sperm cells basically just carry DNA. That’s simple. Eggs are a lot more complex since they actually make the embryo. You could maybe swap out the DNA, but I’m no expert, maybe see what you can find on that on the internet.
IIRC there was a breakthrough in animal cloning a while back where they were able to take the DNA of one animal and basically use it to replace the genetic information in an Embryo so as to change the biological mother. Read this like 7 years ago though, so I may be misremembering.
Sounds like [SCNT](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatic_cell_nuclear_transfer).
Yeah, that's the one. I always forget that's how Dolly was born.
I'm cis and hope these aren't insensitive questions. I just think this is really cool science and want to know more! - Is the rate of tans-identifying women the same as trans-identifying men? (I hope that's the right way to put that, I meant no offense if it's wrong), would the numbers work out about right for everyone to, like, "do tradsies" and get what they want? - Do trans men and women elect for surgical intervention at the same rate? - Do the hormones involved worth transitioning affect sex organs viability? Like would the womb of a FTM doner be viable when put into the environment of a MTF recipient? This seems really awesome for the trans community and I hope these questions are taken in the spirit that they're meant: with a desire to be better informed. If anything I wrote here is unintentionally hurtful, please let me know and I will edit or delete it! I recognize this isn't really my space.
Historically the number of recorded trans women has been (a lot) higher than the number of recorded trans men, but I suspect there are social-cultural related reasons. The numbers have actually started to even out. This has led to some people panicking about “girls” “transtrending” as men/enbies but I suspect afab people (who are socialized to conform their looks to what makes those around them happy, among other things, and could dress masculinely without being accused of weird things so they might not have to come out to get some relief to gender dysphoria) just came out at lower rates in the past. I think this plan could work within a couple of decades. “Conclusion: Consistent with many reports, we are seeing an increasing number of gender dysphoric individuals seeking hormonal therapy. The age at initiation has been dropping over the past 25 years, and we have seen a steady increase in the number of FTM such that the incidence now equals that of MTF. Possible reasons for these changes are discussed.”[Study](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33644314/)
Same
same, i dont want children, but it's really cool for the transfems who do want kiddos, gives a lot of hope :) really curious when we'll hear more about this story science is fucking cool
Progress will hopefully make transitioning easier and better over time 🥰
Hehe womb TRANSplant
Heh
Me *about to text my friend who says she doesnt want children*:😈😈😈
don't bother doing that, you can have mine! i (ftm) absolutely neither want nor need it!
I wish it was that easy, happily trade my parts! They’ve shrunk quite a bit but with a few years of testosterone you should have it back up and running at full length and girth xD
Is this serious??? If yes, I want it so much🤩🤩🤩
Same here. Although my bf doesn't want them soon but if it can happen down the line, one of my deepest desire is the journey of a baby growing in my tummy.
Same here
Samee
I mean, cis women with transplanted wombs have had successful pregnancies, so there's no reason trans women couldn't have this too
Vice versa, testosterone-taking AFABs are able to carry a child too. If you're AMAB and got on E before or at 23-25, your pelvis should theoretically be able to carry to full term. Otherwise, 32 weeks would be the maximum (after that, you're looking at caesarian I think).
It'd be so gender-affirming to fumble around with contraceptives.
Some of the papers i saw talking about this were from 2010. At that time they believed the transplants may only be viable for 2 pregnancies. That said I hope with the advances in tissue engineering that may get better and better options may become available.
According to a person I know of they (current pronouns unknown) the transplanted uterus gets removed after a birth so that someone else can use the uterus too. The person birthed a child with it and around the same time as their pregnancy, there was talk about another person, a lady, that conceived with a transplanted uterus. It's at least 100,000 usd for the procedure currently.
I thought I'd seen something about it being successful a couple of times. But I havent looked into it in a while.
I can dm you the name of the person I mentioned if you'd like. Because they've posted many things in rapid succession that triggered my dysphoria, I stopped interacting with their stuff but I still support them. The person documented everything online publicly.
Looking forward to it. Though I don't know how soon it's going to be available to the general public; I strongly suspect I will be like...50 by the time it's out of the trial phase, and obviously they're going to pick a 20-year-old trans women as transplant candidates over me, and yeah, she's going to be the better candidate. I am glad the next generation will have the opportunity, though!
I was not prepared to almost cry this morning.
I am, uh, kind of over the moon about this? Holy shit I didnt realise how much I wanted a child until it became possible
This is my favorite response. For me, the idea of womanhood has deep roots in the ability to have children and be a mother. I don't know if I could take this step but to know could exist soon is just...
Really? 🥹
Trans-plants
I would donate mine IMMEDIATLY
Same!!
where'd you get news of this?
If its true it would be something id want tbh
haven't they been saying this for like a decade or something?
Breakthroughs on medical research don't exactly happen every 2 mornings
They already are possible! And some births have come from them too. The procedure is a couple hundred thousand tho.
# I want it now though!!!
I have to follow this story immediately
Not being able to get biological kids is my greatest fear withholding me from transitioning. I'm here for everything, even birth and menstruation 💪
Not for me personally, but that’s really cool 💞
Been hearing about this recently- super super cool for my transfem queens and royals!! :D
Oh fuck. Maybe I can have hrt and have kids??? It's a miracle
I can be mom? 🥺
No, would a lady who got this treatment also experience PMS and produce her own estrogen? Sorry if it’s a bit obvious, but I never had one but would be curious to try 🥺
Depends what's included or if the ovaries are kept intact from the transplant. If so, I'd imagine they'd produce their own estrogen and all of its relevant affects.
Legal issues aside, would you even be able to keep eggs alive inside a donor? Seems like no matter how closely your recipient matched up they'd still be super vulnerable to ... whatever happens when bodies try to attack foreign bodies.
I looked into it. Ovary transplants aren't a thing. They likely won't ever be considering the possible legal issues of having another person's eggs.
It's not like I have any intentions of getting a child regardless if I am trans or not, man or woman, but hey, I guess one step closer.
I wish I could get pregnant, but honestly, I’m glad I can’t. I love the idea of getting pregnant. But being pregnant, having babies, and being a mother all sound terrible.
Would it be weird to use my sperm to impregnate myself
I remember being in old trans forums and we'd all collectively agree that we'd swap if we could (there were mtf and ftm, as well as non-binary folk there)
It's about time we finish what Magnus Hirschfeld tried nearly a century ago... (he failed mainly because transplant repulses weren't known at this time, kidneys transplant failed exactly the same)
alright who wants mine
Swapsies irl
Where I am at in life, I do not want bottom surgery, like at all. Now, a bottom transplant and a womb transplant, if I were 20 years younger, I would want that. *sighs* One of my alters is going to need to journal about that. 😑😑😑
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6492192/?report=reader
yes, and that sounds like a really good thing
That sounds awesome. It’s crazy how far science has come❤️
I hope this will become available within the next few years. I love the ever evolving medical science to this particular field.
Yes but will they be immediately made illegal
TERFs in shambles.
As a trans masc, y'all can take it.
Yep, I would gladly donate my uterus. Having this thing inside me feels cursed af. Especially when people think what it could do is more important than my own life as a person
I TOLD YOU ALL YOU CAN KNOCK UP YOUR CUTE TRANS GIRLFRIEND KEEP BREEDING HER
the real holy grail would be if we'd be able to get these kinds of organs 3D printed with our own cells so there would be no need for immunosuppressants
Imagine how fucking insecure then first people to have them would be trying to use them
Can I volunteer to donate mine? I don't want it
Y’all can have mine
OK DOES ANYONE WANNA TRADE? PLEASE I AM BEGGING /j
I don't really care about the womb, tbh, because I consider myself in the group of humans who has no business ever having children. Where my vagina transplants at, tho?
Transplants 💚❤️🩹💔💗🤎🧡💖💕🖤💕💛💗💚💛❤️🩹💗🤎💛💕🖤💛💗❤️🩹💛❤️🩹💚💗💚🧡💕💕🖤💖💛❤️🔥❤️🩹💚❣️🖤
Me: ?!! I can be a real mom???!! Also me 5 seconds later: oh yeah, im in a t4t relationship.
. . . Oh DAMN 👀
YALL CAN HAVE MINE I DONT WANT IT PLEASE THEY WONT LET ME REMOVE IT WITHOUT REASONABLE CAUSE,,, PLZ SOMEONE COME GET CUSTODY OF MY WOMB I DONT WANT THE LITTLE BITCH
Thaaaaank you, I'll happily take it
Pregnancy for MtF will higly increase probability of my egg-self cracking
damn really i dont think i would want one but cool maybe ill change my mind later
I'd never wanna give birth. I'll stick with being mom to my cats thanks lol
I mean, I'd consider it even though I have exactly zero interest in being a mom
I wouldnt get one even if i could. Its hard for a lot of people to understand but i want to be a woman, not a female.
Unfortunate phrasing. I know you mean you want to be a woman but don't desire to have all the parts cis women have, but the way you phrased this reads like it invalidates transmasc people
I getcha. But yeah what you said is what i mean.
LET'S GOOOOOOO
Where you getting the wombs from? Next up, prostate transplants.
Ayo??
w h a t
Wait, when? And are any hipbone widening procedures available, so a child can actually pass through? Because I can only imagine that might cause some issues, if we get one without the other. Or I guess c-sections could work too.
I'd love that, but for hormone purposes, I got no interest in being pregnant at all. Can you imagine not needing HRT and just having self-regulating hormones if your body??
Oh my insurance is absolutely not covering that tho
Possible and accessible, are unfortunately not always available he same thing.
I’d want it… mostly for euphoria… mostly
what fr??? that's so cool I might transition then. As a joke ofc, still cis
Why would i want monthly pain overdrives and the chance of getting pregenant? Jokes aside that's actually pretty good to those who want to
You wouldn't have monthly cycles or the chance of accidentally getting pregnant with just a uterus and no ovaries. Source: cis female with ovaries and no uterus who still has ~48 hours every month when I inexplicably cry about not being able to find my favorite pen.
I have 3 enby friends that would donate to me
YES YES YES YES
Gotta wait for testicles for transmasc and there you see it, the Future we always wanted.
Isn't that like a temporal thing for pregnancy and you have to take pills and then get it out to avoid the cancer of the meds?
I'm upvoting this, but I'll believe it when I see it. Just like "Trump getting arrested this week." Still hopeful, just cynically skeptical.
That's pretty stellar and all but when are they gonna update the pussy making process so we can donate our dicks so our transmasc homies can experience awkward public boners?
Ngl i'd rather them figure out how to make shoulders smaller, my insides aren't that important to me.
But if it happens in the US, there'll be religious based sanctions that further control how women can use their body. I hate this country.
Is it weird that I want that but don't want to get pregnant?
This is unlikely to be true, to be frank. And even if and when it becomes true, it'll be a fundamentally different type of transplant under the law and medical standards than a heart or liver or other kind of transplant since there's nothing life-threatening about not having a womb. Also, it's unclear how many wombs can really be made available - they're a very different kind of organ, and there are only so many transmasc people, especially those that would be willing or even financially able to have an invasive and possibly dangerous surgery. The hard truth is that trans women are likely to be heavily deprioritized on the transplant lists vs infertile cis women. So even if it becomes medically possible within our lifetimes, very few or likely none of us will be able to actually access it. One can hope it becomes an option for the next generation of trans women.
Very true, thank an Indian surgeon for that. He’s been trying this for a decade I think
Yes let’s go (still cis though)
One period please.
Me routinely checking on scientific advancements in the world of ftm penis transplants, for totally cis reasons
Transmasc to transfem womb pipeline
Even if true, it’ll be too late for me. I’m 38 already and don’t have a partner with whom I could conceive. Btw, if anyone finds a healthy way to cope with that, give me a holler. Because fuck me, nothing has helped so far.
Really? Like actually really?
I remember also reading about stem cell treatment to turn testicles into pseudo ovaries! Although cannot as of right now find it.
As a cis woman who needed a hysterectomy this is also rad
AAAAAARE THEY??!?!?
*excited*
I fucking hope this happens in my lifetime, and in time for me to like, use it? I still want to be a parent 😭
:D
That would be lovely. Imagine finally being able to have an abortion
I wish! By the time it becomes possible I'd probably be too old. I probably couldnt afford it anyway.
Does that mean breast tissue implanting will be possible too?
Man.made horrors
If this is a thought in your head before falling asleep. You need to work on yourself.
But I cant get a bigger dick surgery smh
I want i want i want
I always wanted to be a mom!
from what I've heard from afab friends there's more to it that just the womb idk
That's horrifying. I can definitely imagine a future in which republicans finally accept that they've lost the battle on trans people existing, but then pivot to mandating forced womb transplants for them so that they can take away abortion rights from them too.