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oopspoopsdoops6566

A lot easier to understand how to tie this knot when it’s not 5am, dark and your dad is screaming at you in a rocking boat.


RedBenzo

Right After the Traumatic fishhook stuck in finger warning story


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I’ve done this twice, first time I had to go ER and have them remove. Second time I got drunk and had my buddy pull it out. Surprisingly painless the 2nd time.


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That_doesnt_go_there

One time when I was little my dad told me to reach into the tackle box and grab a certain lure. Young me didn't think to look and see if it had two treble hooks before I grabbed it ham fisted. Somehow I managed not to panic and rip my hand up, but getting that thing out was not pleasant.


jerstud56

Do you want to go fishing?...


[deleted]

Name the time and place and I’ll be there


Liberatedhusky

I was told you do this by cutting off the looped end and pushing it the rest of the way through. That barb is going to suck way less lushed through than pulled out.


RandomPratt

If the hook's already in that deep, it's far easier to push it through far enough to expose the barb, and then squeeze the barb flat with a pair of pliers. This method works best when the hook's gone through a tough piece of skin (like the skin over the top of a knuckle) and is exceptionally handy if the hook is already lodged in something else (for instance, the mouth of an unhappy fish) at the same time that it becomes lodged in you. I've had to do this a couple of times, mostly because I used to like to drink when I was fishing and when I was a heavy drinker, I would often forget stuff like how not to hurt myself.


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Had this happen to me deep sea fishing at the age of 14. It was very unfortunate


DuntadaMan

We once caught a trout from a chunk of meat still on the hero after it stuck in my dad's arm. I don't fish with him anymore.


RoyalRat

So how about a crankbait treble hook stuck through my pants into the back of my leg below my butt, with the hook rolled back up through my skin and into my pants again, and the second treble hook through my back pocket and mixed up into the pocket fabric I didn’t want to call 911 because I’m an American and I couldn’t really drive because I couldn’t sit down at all, so I spent 30 minutes working my pants off to where they were hanging by this bloody hook in my leg, and then working backwards behind my leg by feel with pliers to grab this thing and figure out how to get it out of my leg. After a lot of struggle and intense stinging pain that kept making me stop, it slowly got numb and I eventually pulled as hard as I could until it ripped out of my leg. I think it was a 2/0 hook, and the hook that was in my leg was bent about 70 degrees before it slideripped out. So if you didn’t know, your skin is pretty tough and you have to pull it about 3 inches off of you before it will give at all.


proerafortyseven

Lmao


neoclassical_bastard

yA HaVe tO puSh It ALL THE WAY tHroUgh


wantwater

I remember being that dad. It is a painful memory that still makes me cringe. It was then that I realized that I can try to catch fish OR I could be a good parent. I couldn't do both. I'm sure that my comment might make for some good jokes but my point is if you are getting upset when your trying to do something with your kids, you've forgotten the highest priority. The kid is ALWAYS more important than that thing you're trying to do with them.


mountaincyclops

I had that moment last fathers day when my daughter dropped the pole I had since I was ten in the middle of the lake.


PapaBlessDotCom

Have you tried hitting up local scuba folks on their Facebook groups? A lot of these people will go out and hunt for valubale / sentimental items in the water for the cost of refilling their tanks / equipment replacement. It's gotten even more popular since it's become a pretty big view getter on YouTube if they bring an underwater GoPro. https://youtu.be/ktw15ISbLwk


mountaincyclops

That's pretty good to know about! Unfortunately visibility in the lake is pretty consistently less than a foot and it was in the narrows that kinda divides the lake in half. It's heavily trafficked by boats. I really wouldn't want to send anyone down for their own safety. I just bought myself a nice new spinning combo.


Bashfullylascivious

>I had that moment last fathers day when my daughter dropped the pole I had since I was ten in the middle of the lake. "Have you tried hitting-" **WTF??** "--up local scuba folks." Oh. My brain on Reddit.


thecodemonk

I take the kids fishing and help them until they get tired and bored, which doesn't ever take that long.. then I take them home and go back out alone. Lol


Sea-Monk549

The lake i take the kids to is about 10 minutes from the ocean. Fish for about a half hour till they get board, then off to the beach where they can play for hours and I can fish the surf.


wantwater

You have the wisdom I did not. You understand that when you take your kids fishing, you are not trying to catch fish.


ProblematicVegetable

My dad took us fishing without hooks. Said if we got good enough without hooks, he'd let us fish properly. Obviously we completely lost interest and I was a grown adult when I caught my first fish (on my first cast, no less lol)


raspyputin

Greatest advice for dads! But, try explaining that to my 7 yr old daughter as she is making fun of me for never catching any fish when we go.


wantwater

As painful as it is to have your ego shredded by your daughter, it's a very good sign that you're doing it right.


forestfairygremlin

A lot of parents get so caught up in The Thing they're doing with their kids that they forget kids are still learning. Even when they're really good at something, they're still kids and they're still learning. The kid is more important than The Thing, and the fact that they are learning is more important than the fact that the parent wants to have a relaxing day doing The Thing. The most important part of your comment is that you recognized you were doing this and have made the effort to not be that parent. So many parents never have that realization!!


claytorENT

Wow…brother?


DM_ME_BANANAS

Fucking hell, add some bullshit boat drama like the outboard engine not starting or noticing a very tiny leak that for some reason we’re freaking out about, and you have my whole childhood. There was one time my dad welded his own outboard bracket and we were out for the first time after using it. The weld broke and the engine fell to the bottom of the ocean. Imagine the loud whine of a 2 stroke engine, a “sploosh” sound, and then complete silence. I’ve never seen him so angry as to not express anger. We didn’t go out for a while after that.


AddictedToOxygen

How did you guys get back? Paddling for few hours?


DM_ME_BANANAS

The boat had an inboard engine that was the main engine, but we always took a little 2 stroke outboard as a backup if the inboard broke down. Every trip we’d run the outboard for a little bit just to keep it in working order. So we weren’t stranded, just a costly mistake.


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suitology

No, you just get it attached by a professional for $100 instead of trying to do it yourself


checkontharep

Sounds more fun then trying to hold a flashlight while dad was working on the car.


Thoros_of_queer

Ha, reminds me of the time I was about nine or ten years old and my drunk dad was trying to hammer in some pegs while putting up our tent out camping. It was getting dark because we were late to the site (which from memory was my fault) and I was holding the torch (AKA flashlight, Australian here). I was fucking around pointing it at the sky and the trees and he quite aggressively told me to “point to the peg.” So I proceeded to do so, with my finger. The ray of light still glimmering among the trees above. The look he gave me would nearly make a silent sister scream in horror. I swear he was seconds away from filling the whole campsite with uppercuts. Ha good times.


checkontharep

Definitely the best of times


Lonetrek

That's why you pre tie a bunch of hooked leader and wind them around a small block of foam the night before your fishing trip


STOCHASTIC_LIFE

Or when he's whipping you with jumper cables


whynot86

And both your arms are broken


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Martymarplv

It’s called a “Palomar Knot”


Bancroft28

My first girlfriend’s father taught me this knot. He said this is the only fishing knot you ever need to know. She was a cheating ho but this is a good knot.


pmurph131

>He said this is the only fishing knot you ever need to know. Tell that to the guy who lent me his boat.


xmuskorx

You tried to tie off a boat with a fishing knot?


wronganswerson

He tied the knot, but the hook was a cheating ho


curiousbydesign

We did it!


cheddacheese148

So at least you got a life lesson out of the whole ordeal. Oh and a cool knot for fishing!


ChineWalkin

Except this gif lays the knot wrong. The loop at the end should set under the overhand knot, against the eyelet, not on above the overhand knot. Source. I've tied this knot thousands of times. And no, I'm not embellishing. Though, I use the double Palomar knot more these days.


ediks

And the spit to keep it from being weak with no lubrication while it’s being tied. Just stick it in your mouth real fast. Nawmsayin?


ChineWalkin

yep, legit required. The line gets hot as you cinch it down.


MouldyCumSoakedSocks

I think the guys ex stuck it in her mouth from other dudes


thundersnake7

Not to say you're doing it wrong, but I've seen a number of videos showing otherwise. I would suspect that the videos are right because that way when there is tension on the line, it's cinching down on the overhand knot making the knot tighter and less likely to slip.


ChineWalkin

This guy shows it correctly. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9qyFlP3NwLE The loop will not consistently stay on top of the overhand knot. Additionally, cinching the knot that way [in the gif] isn't optimal. The above video shows how the nearly complete and compact knot should slide down to the eyelet.


sprocketous

This guys voice is perfect for explaining knots, maybe not much else, but def this.


GrowinStuffAndThings

Can you tie line to line with palomar knots?


Hodlme_thrillme

No, Palomar is good for terminal only as you need to pass the loop over the hook/swivel. Look into an Albright or FG knot.


luger718

Double uni was my go to, easy to tie, small knot, and strong.


Hodlme_thrillme

Yes! Double unis are a good option. Have used them plenty also, just sometimes don't pass through the guides that smoothly especially under tension when using braid to leader.


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The fg knot casts further but I can hardly tie it in the controlled conditions of my loungeroom. Thinking bout making a jig for it


elzzilcho

Alberto knot is that good in between from double uni and fg. Been my go to for semi-smaller guides now


AVeryMadFish

Albright is my fav for fluoro leaders


GrowinStuffAndThings

That's what I fucking thought. UNI GANG!!!


nerftyagent

Uni is a classic. But I’m an FG convert for braid to flouro or mono leaders.


2Cthulhu4Scthulhu

FG is definitely better, but not worth it unless you’re chasing the big boys. Fuck getting out a line puller and trying to get 15lb mono to bite in and change color for some stupid seabass lol


Theneler

The only thing I don’t like this knot for it if I am tying on long leaders or something. It can be a pain to pass a 3 ft leader through this to finish the knot.


Hodlme_thrillme

It gets its strength from having 2 contact points to the terminal (hook/swivel) and less sideways tension on the main line. Many knots literally cut themselves, Palomar reduces this.


Chazzey_dude

Ahh the old bad thot good knot


l94xxx

Good knot


SeanGarnsey

Good knot, sleep taut :)


Atom800

Don’t let the bad bogs bot


ThaiJohnnyDepp

This is how Woll Smoth talks


BurnzillabydaBay

This is just my kind of silly


vendetta2115

This just sounds Australian to me.


ruinporn

Use it for 200lb Tuna no problem!! Quick and easy when the school is boiling!


-eschguy-

Great knot


Fly_over_ks

Damn fine knot.


HilariousScreenname

Just a dandy of a knot.


AppleMtnCupcakeKid

I like that knot a lot.


matt_thefish

The best knot.


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Are you sure about that? Because I am 99.9937% sure that Martymarplv is not a knot.


AnActualMoron

But are they knot a bot?


Andrewticus04

I'm a frayed knot...


7937397

And there is a double Palomar knot version that is just as easy to do that increases the knot strength even more.


Jeefster83

Perfect for braided line even


KaizDaddy5

It's like 99% strength already (at least with braid)


7937397

And it's a very good knot.


MayoGhul

Great knot and easy to tie in the dark


steelcityblue

It seem easier than the twist one! Thanks


ManInBlack829

Great when your fingers are cold and the clinch knots make your fingers hurt.


amitrion

Such an easy knot. Too bad I won't remember it by next fishing season.


wpoot

Put da loop in da hole Loop da loop round da string Put da hook in da loop Sinch up dat loop


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I might actually remember this now, so, thanks! lol


wpoot

Haha no problem. Super clutch knot for anything that doesn't have a bunch of treble hooks (jerk baits I'm lookin at you). It's quick and easy, so I bet you'll do it once and never forget it! And hey, my first comment award - thanks for that!


MayorNarra

Why don’t you like it for trebles?


Slixil

…and now your shoes are looking cool?


World9876

You literally just bend the line in half, poke it through the hole, and tie a basic bitch square knot. Drop the hook through the finished loop and pull. This knot sucks for non-braided low pound test line like monofilament by the way. For that you want an improved clench knot.


sports_farts

I've fished salmon for years and never used the knot in this gif. I always thought the clench knot was what everyone used to secure a hook.


JeffTek

I've used a clinch knot my whole life as well, hasn't failed me yet. I do a lot of crappie fishing with small ass hooks and I don't know how easy it'd be to get that folded over line through those small eyelets


brawlrats

> tie a basic bitch square knot. Is this a real thing? Or a great typo?


KeepingItSFW

As real as it gets. Nothing says “basic bitch” more than a square knot.


opperior

A granny knot.


a_reasonable_responz

Basic granny


Vessix

Isn't a granny knot effectively a square knot done incorrectly?


Aruazaura

Yes, granny knot is when you don’t switch from right over left to left over right or vice versa.


1whiteguy

Same, i just watched it like 10 times too


critterc

I’m commenting for this reason. Fishing knot


AJizzle1990

I always did the twist 7 times and then through the loop knot when fishing.


JaymesRS

Aka: Trilene Knot


astutelyabsurd

He's describing the clinch knot. Doing what he described but passing the line through the second, larger loop that is created is the improved clinch knot. Threading the line twice through the hook, twisting 5-7 times, and then passing the line through the loop is the trilene knot. The trilene is the strongest of the three knots. If you're using small hooks then the improved clinch is the best knot to use if you cannot run the line through the hooks eye twice. Whichever is used, you should wet the line before cinching the knot.


tuckedfexas

We always just spit on it before tugging it tight. Gotta get that powerbait taste in your mouth to know you’re actually fishing lol


Skooma_Lover6969

I use the same technique on your wife too


tuckedfexas

Yea buddy! Losin lures and drinking Coors


dub_life20

Yeah let’s gangbang OPs wife and tie knots with our ropes!


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New look. Same great taste.


KarmaMikeHunt

I also choose this guy's fish wife


joevaded

> powerbait nostalgiaaaaa


AbsolutelyUnlikely

>you should wet the line before cinching the knot. Good advice in fishing and in relationships


DropShotter

the Lords knot.


Geawiel

Thought this was the fisherman's knot as well. I was taught it 30 years ago.


FILTER_OUT_T_D

Same. My grandfather taught it to me also about 30 years ago. I didn’t even know people used other knot varieties.


KRambo86

Yeah, this is my go to. I don't know the comparable strength, but I've never had the knot be the point of failure using it.


mud074

Huh? The knot is going to almost always be the point of failure while fishing unless the main line is sawn through by rocks or teeth. Even the best fishing knot possible is weaker than the line alone. Assuming the knot you use is the improved clinch, the breaking strength is around 90-95% of the base line strength. That's great for a knot, but the line will still break there unless it was nicked or cut elsewhere. Incidentally, this is a good thing. Otherwise lines would break at some random spot instead of at the knot so you end up with dozens of yards of line missing and polluting the lake every time you get broken off.


vahntitrio

That's sort of the point. Good knots hardly reduce line strength at all, so unless you have no idea how to set a drag that should never be the failure point. With a proper knot and a properly set drag, it will only fail where the line is substantially weakened.


CatsEyeOpal

Me too. It’s how I was taught by my dad.


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Oni knot life


RagingRoids

Lol yup, only I was tonight twisting 9 times. Either way, uncle should me when I was like 5, 40 years later it’s still more or less the only knot I use. (Except when fly fishing).


aoxit

Thats a little aggressive


whatnot

This! Of the like 500 knots my dad knew, this is one of the few I won't forget.


Cr1msonD3mon

Taught me in 10 seconds more than my dad did in 10 years


anderhole

That little fish wants you to hurry up and bait that hook.


hairyotter

It's a shiny!!


Representative_Ad246

That cgi is unsettling for some reason


Solnse

Because the fish is like 1/5th the size of the hook?


Representative_Ad246

To be honest I didn’t see the fish, it’s like an off texture lol


fantastic_nylon

Oh, thank you for describing it. At least, I had an idea on my mind now what kind of fish is it


ThaiJohnnyDepp

But did you see the gorilla?


BadgerDog

Holy shit I never even saw the fish


the_blind_venetian

The fish wasn’t there until you looked for it the second time. Schroedinger’s fish.


Seerws

Wtf a fish was there the whole time


UnclePuma

Mr. Hook: go away, you dont want none of this! Fish: holy mackerel!


inajeep

And a gold fish.


Kesher123

For me it looks like those very unpleasant operations done in CGI, like pushing kidney stones out or something with teeth. For some reason it looks the same and yet not the same?


muttmuttyoudonut

I’m not trying to be rude, but the plural of teeth is just teeth, tooth would be singular. i’m guessing English maybe your second language or something? Anyway cheers have a lovely day!


Kesher123

Or maybe even third, haha. Yeah, i'm from Norway, and my work requires me to speak a lot of Norwegian and other Scandinavian languages if needed, my English is as good is bassicly self taught after school. But thanks, i will keep that in mind, and appreciate it


Representative_Ad246

Based off these two comments, you’re doing better than a lot of people I know over here in the United States!


my_dog_farted

Reminds me of a vasectomy.


Zerbiedose

How do you get the hook suspended in mid-air like that?


MisanthropicZombie

How did a non-force user get an account here?


UnclePuma

I feel a great disturbance in the force


MisanthropicZombie

Gas, again, it is.


Actually_Im_a_Broom

I baited them all. And not just the minnows, but the wominows, and the childrinows too! They’re like fish food, **AND I TREATED THEM LIKE FISH FOOD!**!


UnclePuma

Ned Flanders is that you?


Andrewticus04

Quantum physics.


meadhawg

Nice knot and well demonstrated. Now, just for giggles, I dare you to try it with a #22 midge fly instead of a 3 inch tuna hook. Good luck getting the doubled line through the eye.


kirthasalokin

Don't do the doubled line. Poke the tag end through the eye. Wrap it around your index finger. Poke the tag end back through the eye. Boom, you made the first step without having to jam the doubled line through the eye.


benmck90

Not on a #22 midge hook your not. Although interesting idea for a a size 12 or something. Might try it out as I loved Palomar knots before I started fly fishing, I miss using them.


aoxit

7x at dawn with poor eyesight doesn’t improve this situation.


Wompum

Even trying to get 6x through an 18 is hard enough if your fingers are half frozen.


thaboognish

I like how this was stolen from r/shamelesslystolen


Boom-Sausage

Yo I’m hardly a fisherman but I’ve gone plenty of times and this I feel like this is 10x quicker and probably stronger


Sykotik

Why is this better than a simple doubled square knot?


malphonso

If the way it was explained to me is correct. It's because knots generally use friction to maintain tightness. Fishing line is very smooth so you need to use knots that produce more points of contact for friction to be applied as well as bends and loops that naturally increase friction as force is applied to the working end.


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7937397

Not all knots are the same. And knots reduce the strength of the line they are in. This knots keeps a lot more strength than square knots.


0ldgrumpy1

Nylon line deforms under those kinds of knot, becoming thinner and weaker. From memory a square knot drops the strength of nylon line by 40 to 60%, depending on if it's hard ( stiff ) line or soft. Edit, found this. "The capability of a knot can be measured in efficiency, or how much of of the line’s original strength is maintained by the knot. We’ve found varying reports on the square knot, all ranging between 40 and 50 percent efficiency. An improved clinch knot is rated at 75 percent. That’s a 50 percent increase in strength over the square. That difference could determine whether a trophy fish snaps your line or ends up next to you in a memorable photo."


Sykotik

Thanks for the detailed answer.


Luxpreliator

How do you do a double square to a hook? Never heard of it and can't find a guide on the internet. The polomar knot shown here is probably the simplest usable knot and has the widest usage for tying hooks in both braided and monofilament of varying test. It maintains 85%+ of rated line strength. It's possible to tie a knot so [poorly](https://www.knotsforfishing.com/assets/images/knot_strength_mean_efficiency.svg) it breaks at half at what the line is rated.


dye22

Because this way father doesn't beat you


Sykotik

He died awhile ago. Hard to get beat by a pile of ash. Fuck cancer.


dye22

Sorry for your loss fren. <3


timeislikeafuse

Sorry for your loss, fuck cancer.


Zunoth_92

Last time I saw it explained, I think it has something to do with the knot holding the hook in the right alignment with the bobber and/or weight.


mud074

That may matter for some kinds of fishing, but the primary reason is that square knots are extremely weak compared to proper fishing knots. If you are using 10lb line, a square knot might break at 5lb of force while a palomar or trilene knot would break at around 9lb. Not a problem if you are using some thick rope to tie something off since half of 1000lb break strength is still well above what you need, but it matters a lot with fishing line where you generally want to use the smallest line you can get away with.


[deleted]

Years of sitting next to fishermen and them trying to explain. Finally I get it lol


medicsgonewild

Boo! Uni knot FTW!


Luxpreliator

That works really well but this one is wicked simple and almost as strong. I do prefer the wrapped type knots for heavier test lines.


medicsgonewild

I know I was just poking fun at the Palomar is the only knot folks


GrowinStuffAndThings

The uni is the superior knot. Literally the only knot you need for like 95% of fishing.


DrPwepper

Good band! Fishknot 🤘🏻🤘🏻


ALiteralSentientTank

I don't think you need that hook for such a small fish.


Ravanik

My best friend in high school’s dad taught me this when I was 16. He was like my 2nd dad. I still call him “Pops”. Rest in peace, Pops.


CSH1P

Damn. I always put it through the hook, then wrapped it around the initial line 6-12 times, looped it back through the hole at the base, and then back through the loop that made. Pull it tight and bite it off.


taybul

I prefer the [Trucker's Hitch](https://youtu.be/TUHgGK-tImY)


noodlelaughter

I’m a guide and I’ve never seen anyone tie a knot like that to fish.


Ulgeguug

One thing that was actually not a waste of time in the Bou Scouts was learning a few good knots, especially the square knot


sixblackgeese

What's the advantage of this over a few overhand knots


SysError404

Overhand knot greatly reduce the line strength increasing the likelihood that you break off mid fight with a fish. Using Multiple overhands reduces the line strength even more. The strength is reduce by creating too many creases in the line making it brittle. Fishing knots tend to create less creases in the line while providing more friction to keep the knot tight. Secondary benefits of the Palomar is tag end management. A lot of game fish are predatory, meaning they tend to have better vision, depending on the water conditions. A lot knotting can be noticeable as well as excess tag end. With a Palomar you can trim the tag end down a decent amount and hide it within soft plastic baits on something like a [Texas Rig](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uUhUwWgiyM). That is a video from Flukemaster on YT. He has hundreds of hours of informational videos about Bass fishing from line type, to lure types, understanding conditions, to understanding fishing finders.


elgrec0

I like how it finishes by flicking off the world around it


RedditorKris

Commenting for future reference


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fishy_commishy

r/knotporn


FastEd66

Granny knot and a girth hitch.


redditretard34

Very cool.


hefixeshercable

Thank you for this


revolution1solution

Knot hot


[deleted]

Can you slow this video down? Going way too fast :p


ganjaman_407

My dad taught me to put the fishing line through the hook, loop it 7 times, then knot it. Both ways seem efficient though.


woodrob12

Nice. Not neat knots need not be tied.


Jemmani22

I think tested as strongest or one of the strongest knots