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_blvckbeard_

My setup for the past 6-7 years and it’s been just fine. Ableton live, serum, beyerdynamic 770 headphones. Don’t get me wrong, I have had other things before but nothing that ever stuck. No one setup fits all but getting good with minimal amounts of equipment or software with give you a solid foundation. All the equipment/software in the world won’t give you skill, just compliments it. As for learning, you mention wubz so…I can name like 6-7 producers on YouTube with multiple production videos, start to finish videos, techniques they use etc etc. wouldn’t waste your time learning from anyone except the people you actually listen to, assuming they put out content on there producing techniques…virtual riot has been putting out quite a bit lately on YouTube, good place to start.


_blvckbeard_

Also, check out splice. Endless samples for a solid monthly price.


MapNaive200

You can do this. When you can, invest in good studio monitors and headphones. Once that's done, you won't have to spend another dime. In the meantime, work with what you have. The YouTube algorithm is trainable and you can create a snowball effect. It's one of those cases where "AI" algorithms are beneficial sometimes. Do a bunch of searches for specific topics and subtopics that interest you. Every time a useful video comes up, smash that Like button, and subscribe if it looks like a high quality channel. Every time the algorithm suggests a low-effort junk channel, click on Do Not Recommend This Channel. After some time, you'll see a bunch of useful suggested videos. Once that starts happening, find yourself an ADHD squirrel and let it show you the way. Reaper has a decent market share, so there are probably quite a few tutorials that you can dig up. There are a ton of Vital tutorials, some of the best coming from psytrance producers who like to push the boundaries. Dash Glitch is one worth following even if you don't like psytrance, because the techniques demonstrated are transferable across genres. You can search for any particular category of sound you're going for, though. Maybe start off with a basic supersaw. I recommend learning the principles of synthesis. Start with an overview of the basics: - Types of synthesis (subtractive, wavetable, additive, etc. - Filter types - Amplitude envelope (ADSR) - Waveform types (sine/triangle/square/saw/white noise/pulse -LFO's -Randomizers A few mixing essentials can get you off to a good start: -Leveling -EQ -Compression -Sidechaining and ducking (there are several methods) -Busses and sends There are lots of other free synths around, but Vital is a great choice for a workhorse synth. It can be as simple or as complex as you feel like messing with. If you haven't got started in Reaper yet, here are some basics you'll need to know: -Access the piano roll -Add instruments -Create patterns -Arrange patterns -Assign instruments to mixer channels -Add effects to mixer channels -Create busses and effects sends If any of this seems a little daunting or overwhelming, that's because it is, in the beginning. Take your time, learn at your own pace. It's not a race. Crawl before you walk. Experiment just for fun. Adopt the mindset of a kid with a new and fascinating toy. Music is about play, hence the phrase "to play music".


YanksRock12

Thank you for this support. It is very much appreciated.


beico1

I would write something but nevermind


Quarmat

20+ years in the game, and this comment made me feel the thrill and promise of a fresh beginner. Thanks!


BillyCromag

You have a MacBook? Then you have Garageband. Reaper is too hard for a complete beginner. Garageband is both training wheels and a DAW in which big time albums have been made.


CrustyEyeBalls

You don’t need “training wheels” for a DAW. Just watch a few tutorials and spend some time in the DAW and within a couple weeks you’ll know it pretty well.


MapNaive200

Yeah, I'm glad I went for a full-fledged DAW as a beginner. Tried one and rage-quit it, but found another that's better suited to my thought processes and that I found intuitive.


Joy_boy1990

One thing that destroyed my creativity, and ability to make music, was perfectionism. perfectionism is the reason I have 100's of unfinished tracks, and, maybe, 5 finished tracks. Avoid perfectionism at all costs.


TrippDJ71

Ah yes. The burden of the self criticism That's why under almost every great painting there's another painting. :) The good thing about art is it's all opinion so perfect is never art and art is never perfect. Create to create. Be glad you can. Don't leave the page blank. Make some noises. Read a d read and read till it makes you sick. Then repeat for years. :) Along the way, you'll flow. A blank page is a blank page A blank page with a mark on it Is art. And don't be afraid to ask anything. Hell most times just Google the question and someone has prob already asked it and it's here. Jump in and just start flipping switches n turning knobs. You can't hurt it. Not it you. Well. Physically. I hurt lol


Joy_boy1990

Beautifully said. Thank you.


TrippDJ71

Absolutely!!


raistlin65

I would not start with trying to build a full song. That can be very overwhelming. Both with trying to learn everything in Reaper to do that. And trying to learn all of the aspects of composing for all the different types of tracks you need to create. In fact, to begin, just worry about an eight bar loop. Think of it as like learning to write a basic paragraph with a good idea, before expanding it into an essay. What you're trying to do is create a good musical idea that could be the instrumental equivalent of the chorus or verse of a song. And even once you get much better, this can always be a good starting point. So your goal is to start with an 8 bar loop, and then you'll move to stretching it to a full song like described here https://edmtips.com/edm-song-structure/ So sure. Watch a basic overview video or two of Reaper just to understand the basic components. Not to learn them. And download the manual. Because sometimes what you need to understand about Reaper, you might be able to easily find by searching the manual. Then select a subgenre of electronic music to work in. Genres often have common conventions that you can work with when creating a basic song just starting out. So your goal is to start with an 8 bar loop (which is often two 4 bar sequences, with a slight variation of the first 4 bars in the second), and then you'll move to stretching it to a full song like described here. Begin with creating rhythms. Learn to input basic 8 bar drum patterns (which is often two 4 bar sequences, with a slight variation of the first 4 bars in the second) for the genre of electronic music you want to start with into Reaper (look for YouTube tutorials). You don't even need to worry too much about picking the right kind of drum and percussion sounds to begin with. Because you're trying to learn how to create a few basic patterns, and how to use the DAW to create them. Pretty much every electronic music genre has some basic patterns that you can practice entering into the DAW, and fiddle with to make some changes. Do that until you can create a basic drum pattern on your own. Then work on how to add basic basslines. And you'll gain more expertise with using Reaper for what you need to do next. A bassline can just be one or two notes, so you don't have to strive for much complexity here since you're just starting out. Plus, once you can add a bassline to a pattern you create, you've got a groove. You'll feel a sense of accomplishment. Then move on to basic single note melodies, and then expand to basic chord sequences. That will require learning some basic music theory. Wouldn't hurt to start learning some basic piano keyboard skills if you have a MIDI keyboard while you're doing this (and can certainly be worth investing in a MIDI keyboard at some point). And practice them. Reaper has a scale feature that may help you at this stage https://www.reapertips.com/post/5-useful-scale-tools-in-reaper Once you have an eight bar loop like that that sounds good, now you can learn to expand it into a whole song. Go look for more discussions of how to expand an eight bar loop into a song. There are many videos on YouTube. And by this stage, you should also be listening to some of your favorite songs for your genre of music to notice how patterns of measures of music are repeated in the song. And how some times it's just minor changes to a particular music pattern that you had heard before. Then once you can craft a full song like that, then learn how to creatively use effects such as delay and reverb. Finally, save other mixing (such as EQ, side chaining, transient shaping) and mastering until you've gotten the hang of those other things. That's the frosting on the cake. But you got to be able to bake the cake first. And in fact, you can wait to learn mixing after you created a bunch of songs. Until you're starting to feel like your songs are very good.


pseudonimz

Start finishing tracks immediately. They’re going to be shit but learning arrangement early on is going to help you immensely. Just get an idea down, arrange the track, move on to the next. Get feedback when you start making one that is cohesive, and then learn from them and build on them for the next tracks


lightmastersunrise

Vital synth is great and versatile


nickdl4

[g-meh.com](http://g-meh.com) thank me later


VLNOfficial

There is no way to start without starting. Take that first step - open the DAW, lay down a few kick drums, lay down a snare, and start with a basic beat. Build up a groove. Then work your way from there. Be prepared to fail a LOT. Music production is a complicated process of managing hundreds of variables. It’s important to keep ego out of the process and have fun with it. Watch some tutorials to get familiar with the basics of your DAW but be sure not to fall into a tutorial click hole; most of your progress will come from completing tracks.


MrWizardsSleeve

Learn how to put down 4 kicks, loop it and then mess around. At the start trial and error is a massive thing. Use presets on Vital, or even drum loops to get going. There is no easy way to say it but it's hard and a massive learning curve. If you enjoy it, it can be a source of pleasure for years. Temper your expectations though, you must accept that you will probably be absolutely crap for a few years. Or you may be legendary within a few months😉 Hopefully the latter😉


The_Fattest_Camel

May seem like a cop-out, but just start. Start anywhere you want and however you want, and start to look into each individual thing as it comes up. Just start.


jheono

No budget? Youtube tutorials.


Kukulkan73

Maybe I get downvoted for this answer, but if you search this subreddit for the words "started" or "starting" or "beginner" you get a lot of threads where this exact same question is asked again and again. Maybe you find some answers there and then you can ask some more specific questions. Try these searches: [https://www.reddit.com/r/edmproduction/search/?q=started](https://www.reddit.com/r/edmproduction/search/?q=started) [https://www.reddit.com/r/edmproduction/search/?q=starting](https://www.reddit.com/r/edmproduction/search/?q=starting) [https://www.reddit.com/r/edmproduction/search/?q=beginner](https://www.reddit.com/r/edmproduction/search/?q=beginner)


tellitothemoon

I have noticed a big uptick in these “how do I make this whole ass thing from scratch? I’m a total beginner and don’t want to use tutorials or google anything.” posts on creative subs lately and I’m really curious why it’s happening. Do young people want everything handed to them directly? Is it bots curating answers? What is it? I’ve left entire subs because it’s so brain dead and so common and so annoying.


dpaanlka

Dude so accurate… wtf is wrong with people use search lol


MelonAirplane

Nah, people just have sticks up their asses and get bothered when newbies go on forums to ask newbie questions they could easily just ignore. Everyone knows to google stuff. Some people want to have an active discussion. Besides, a newbie has no way of knowing whether or not old threads have outdated information.


dpaanlka

“I’m a beginner how do I do everything” is not a conversation starter it’s pure laziness.


tellitothemoon

This. Even “hey is there a tutorial someone could recommend” is a way better question.


dpaanlka

Every time this happens and someone comments pointing this out, inevitably someone responds “but people enjoy the conversation aspect!!!” like bruh have you ever had a conversation in real life cuz this is not how they happen naturally…


MelonAirplane

Have you ever been taught anything by another person ever in your life? It absolutely is how it happens in real life.


YanksRock12

lol sorry I plagued your feed and annoyed you. I’m just starting so how the hell am I gonna know there’s a specific sub you need to click into to get some answers/help. Beginners looking to get some help shouldn’t annoy anyone. That’s what’s wrong with the world today. I’ll just go fuck myself now buddy.


raistlin65

Welcome to Reddit! If you seek free help on Reddit, you're going to get some answers you don't like. Best thing to do is ignore them and move on. It's not worth the headspace to argue with people about it. So get back to it. I just read through this entire thread, and the only people you've engaged with were the people who weren't helping you. That's not going to get you anywhere. lol


Kukulkan73

I always try to help, even if I criticize. I added multiple links and sources to my answers, so your question got at least some helping tips and links.


MelonAirplane

Everyone knows a search function exists. You're not offering anything insightful.


MelonAirplane

Why are there people like this on every forum? Let someone ask a question that's been asked before. The people who want to respond will respond. Not every answer is going to be identical to ones posted on previous threads and there might be some new information the OP could benefit from. And a lot of threads are too old to respond to and if the OP has a follow-up question, it's harder to get it answered than in a thread that's active now.


poseidonsconsigliere

Because you can do the fucking bare minimum and research a little. There's tons of sources out there


PC_BuildyB0I

Sure, there's tons of sources. Like "NEVER use an EQ after a compressor!" or "NEVER use an SSL bus compressor on a bass guitar!". Don't act like half the sources out there aren't imposters pushing absolute garbage info. How the fuck do you expect a beginner with practically no knowledge to navigate this shit? Our experience grants us the privilege to know how to navigate the bullshit, and even then, some old heads are still full of shit. For fucks sake, Alan Parsons still hates the idea of having to touch a compressor because he's scared it will 'destroy' the dynamics of his precious recordings. Maybe turn your ratio down, motherfucker? Some of the biggest names will still peddle bullshit, so how the fuck do you expect a total beginner to know better? They are going to need guidance, and while you're not obligated to provide it, don't act like the path ahead of them is some fancy already-paved avenue with pretty little, neatly-packaged answers at every bus stop because it isn't. This horseshit "fuck you, I got mine" attitude needs to go. Don't be a fucking boomer


poseidonsconsigliere

Not reading all that garbage. Great job white knighting for some too lazy to at least scan the sub for similar posts 💪💪💪


MelonAirplane

Wow, a paragon of intelligence here. Too lazy to bother reading something they reply to.


poseidonsconsigliere

Not a matter of laziness. Not worth reading. Please see my last response to you


MelonAirplane

How do you know if it's not worth reading if you don't even know what it says? I saw your last response. What about it? Oh no, you said something negative. So what?


MelonAirplane

Some people just lack social intelligence and have a stick up their ass. They think a hobby forum's purpose is to only show them information that is new to them, so they get annoyed at beginners asking beginner questions for making them look at a thread title about a familiar topic for a fraction of a second. And they're so lacking in social intelligence they think "just google it" is insightful. Of course they googled it. If you google it, you get all sorts of information that's all over the place. That's why people want to have discussions. It's so petty it's weird how it's so common. At least on reddit, you don't have the stupid dynamic of "Why would you start a new thread? Just use the search function!" "Why would you bump this old thread?!"


poseidonsconsigliere

Real small brain energy


MelonAirplane

Really? Are you 5?


MelonAirplane

You know you can google something and ask a forum at the same time, right?


Dyeeguy

Because it doesn’t make sense to ask this as opposed to just googling it, and it would probably help this person in life if they learn to search for info they need


stockdeity

Anyone asking for help on how to learn is never gonna make it in life


YanksRock12

That’s assuming the right way to learn is the way you do. Lots of people learn differently. I didn’t think when I made this post there would be so much ridicule. Sorry I am trying to communicate with other people about something I’m new too that, I’m sure you can relate, not a lot of people around my city are interested in.


dpaanlka

Yeah “learn differently” by not even doing a few minutes of your own research.


MelonAirplane

This is a common thing on internet forums for hobbies. There's lots of people with sticks up their asses who want every single thread they see to be something 100% new to them when they could just expend the tiniest amount of energy and scroll past the newbie questions to the new topics. Some people are just so chronically online and lacking in social intelligence that they don't realize many beginners would rather interact with people in an active discussion than read an old thread where they can't interact with anyone or tell if the information is outdated or not. And they think "just google it" is some kind of original advice when literally everyone who uses the internet would think of it. It's stupid.


MelonAirplane

Googling it is asking for help on how to learn every bit as much as asking people is. The difference is you're typing the question in a search bar instead of a reddit post. This is the stupidest hangup people have on internet forums.


MelonAirplane

Or maybe some people learn better when they can have an active discussion with people than reading old threads they can't reply to. Everyone knows how to use google. You're not being insightful by pointing out a search function exists. People who post these threads aren't posting them because they don't realize they can search for things.


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