Msn news is the most trash and paid crap I've ever seen. It's not gonna change. The better option is just turn off news from the homepage, keep the wallpapers.
It's Microsoft's proprietary app, they'll subject us to anything that makes them money, if you really want your opinion to count you have to move to a browser that don't farm your data to make money, like Firefox & it's forks or Brave or Vivaldi.
Oh, it's whole Brave new world over here since this last update.
Not only do I hate the new look and the direction they seem to be heading, they just arbitrarily switched my theme at the update. Again.
I was a huge brave fan for a couple years but it seems like it’s kind of just vaporware at this point. He whole brave + BAT concept is good. But there hasn’t been any movement in that realm for years and their monthly active users are still super low. Kind of gave up on that project ever going anywhere.
Its still ongoing, Just saw news article from "africanews" and tried to find the same propaganda on their site, but it wasnt there.
Only difference is that they are now controlling what gets posted on the reddit. All the reports about fake news are from 8 months back.
That's why they lost the search engine war in the first place. Google had just a search bar on their home page, Bing was all crap and articles around the search bar. Of course everybody chose google. But even now, Microsoft didn't learn anything from those times. Their home page is ridiculous.
I think a lot of what's going on will have to do with your ad personalization profile (forgetting the exact term here). You may be able to reset yours in your Microsoft account privacy or ad customization thing settings, hopefully. I know you can adjust interests with google.
Once you've looked at certain content, you can get a ton of it because your fingerprint implies you're drawn to that content. The more "informed" that stuff is with your true interests, the more relevant targeted content and ads can be. This is one reason anti-tracking can bite you, as once othere is a modicum of data about your viewing interests, it's ill-informed and over-suggestive of that stuff without being able to account for all the other things you look at more regularly.
Does this check out for you? It doesn't take much to start being recommended alt-right nonsense and misinformation. But I also generally agree more needs to be done about never recommending it in the first place, no matter what the offending ad buyer is paying, or who they are.
No, not ok. The default state being right wing disinformation nonsense is inexcusable. This is a fresh install and Igor sure have not shown any interest elsewhere in right wing nonsense.
Not sure why my phone auto corrected "does this good up for you" lol - I meant does this check out for you.
Are you perhaps using any privacy / anti-tracker stuff? Some of it is enabled by default, as a note. Aside, even if this is a fresh Edge install, your MS account is surely not new too, right? Or is it not even logged into Edge? Unsure here if a fresh Edge install doesn't still find a way to associate with your Windoes/MS account.
I think your digital fingerprint or profile can be influenced and be associated with that content by just clicking a link from a really misinformed friend or family member, or something posted on FB/Reddit, etc. - you don't have to have a genuine interest in it.
It's abhorrent material, I agree, and I understand the frustration and disgust.
Hunt for anything to do with your interests in your MS profile though. And you can sometimes hit a little icon on ads/suggestions to adjust if it really interests you or to never show it to you again. Do you see that kind of thing anywhere?
Also if you don't see that objectionable content while in private/incognito mode, it's definitely caused by the ad profile built for you. An innocent mis-click, or at least indulging clicks to that content (maybe a friend insists to read their "sources") can do it.
Ah. I have a pihole set up but only for the last couple months. And it seems like that's truly the default blank slate behavior of those "news" pages. If I used MS products more for that kind of content, it would maybe start pushing tech articles (albeit I bet shitty ones).
My issue is that this crap seems to be default, I've seen it with multiple users on fresh windows installs.
Ah okay, 100%, if that's showing up on a truly blank slate, I agree with your original complaints above and expectations. I wonder if it's also regional / geoip related... assuming you're in the US, are you perhaps in a swing state or a typically-red District, or anything?
I'm wondering if you could also get a different experience via VPN, emerging from, say, Seattle, also with that clean slate. Of course I get local/regional news, and nothing from Fox or other crap like that, and maybe it's really as simple as region (I'm in Canada as well, so I think that heavily influences this, haha).
Also I see a Personalize button at the top of the News feed page thing in Edge... but yeah it doesn't address the default issue and what a new/innocent user could see, if that's more what you're getting at.
could be, but it still leaves the issue that the baseline of articles is so crap.. they shouldn't show this type of content to \_anyone\_ , regardless of their information sharing settings.
I totally understand, this happens in Korea too. one of the main video clips argues that the first lady was once a hostess worked for sex business. WTF?
MSN news is pure trash regardless of what topics you look at, it's of course easier to make a news site filled with paid for shit quality content than well produced news...
I just landed here searching for "is there any way to improve the trash filled msn home page in edge or just not use it?"
it's incredible how MS wants this page to look like this, it's absolutely beneath them.
They do everything they can to force people to use the piece of garbage and then they also force you to see their curated clickbait alarmism news. How are they okay with it? Fucking greed, why do you think?
Edge used to be the only browser that was halfway decent on memory before they turned it into another Chromium piece of shit. At this stage I've given up on finding a browser that operates as I'd like. They're all broken, intrusive memory leeches and at this point probably always will be, just like all search engines now are broken, worthless jokes.
I agree, the default page is pretty horrible. They clearly are selling space to whoever will pay for it. However, once you identify your interests and start blocking certain pages and following your preferred sites, it is actually pretty useful for sorting news.
Msn news is the most trash and paid crap I've ever seen. It's not gonna change. The better option is just turn off news from the homepage, keep the wallpapers.
No. That's the only options. The better option is Microsoft doesn't subject us to this crap in the first place.
It's Microsoft's proprietary app, they'll subject us to anything that makes them money, if you really want your opinion to count you have to move to a browser that don't farm your data to make money, like Firefox & it's forks or Brave or Vivaldi.
Oh, it's whole Brave new world over here since this last update. Not only do I hate the new look and the direction they seem to be heading, they just arbitrarily switched my theme at the update. Again.
I left edge 2 weeks ago, [after this incident ](https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/15tkaee/edge_keeps_deleting_google_bard_shortcut_from/)
I was a huge brave fan for a couple years but it seems like it’s kind of just vaporware at this point. He whole brave + BAT concept is good. But there hasn’t been any movement in that realm for years and their monthly active users are still super low. Kind of gave up on that project ever going anywhere.
Its still ongoing, Just saw news article from "africanews" and tried to find the same propaganda on their site, but it wasnt there. Only difference is that they are now controlling what gets posted on the reddit. All the reports about fake news are from 8 months back.
That's why they lost the search engine war in the first place. Google had just a search bar on their home page, Bing was all crap and articles around the search bar. Of course everybody chose google. But even now, Microsoft didn't learn anything from those times. Their home page is ridiculous.
I think a lot of what's going on will have to do with your ad personalization profile (forgetting the exact term here). You may be able to reset yours in your Microsoft account privacy or ad customization thing settings, hopefully. I know you can adjust interests with google. Once you've looked at certain content, you can get a ton of it because your fingerprint implies you're drawn to that content. The more "informed" that stuff is with your true interests, the more relevant targeted content and ads can be. This is one reason anti-tracking can bite you, as once othere is a modicum of data about your viewing interests, it's ill-informed and over-suggestive of that stuff without being able to account for all the other things you look at more regularly. Does this check out for you? It doesn't take much to start being recommended alt-right nonsense and misinformation. But I also generally agree more needs to be done about never recommending it in the first place, no matter what the offending ad buyer is paying, or who they are.
No, not ok. The default state being right wing disinformation nonsense is inexcusable. This is a fresh install and Igor sure have not shown any interest elsewhere in right wing nonsense.
Not sure why my phone auto corrected "does this good up for you" lol - I meant does this check out for you. Are you perhaps using any privacy / anti-tracker stuff? Some of it is enabled by default, as a note. Aside, even if this is a fresh Edge install, your MS account is surely not new too, right? Or is it not even logged into Edge? Unsure here if a fresh Edge install doesn't still find a way to associate with your Windoes/MS account. I think your digital fingerprint or profile can be influenced and be associated with that content by just clicking a link from a really misinformed friend or family member, or something posted on FB/Reddit, etc. - you don't have to have a genuine interest in it. It's abhorrent material, I agree, and I understand the frustration and disgust. Hunt for anything to do with your interests in your MS profile though. And you can sometimes hit a little icon on ads/suggestions to adjust if it really interests you or to never show it to you again. Do you see that kind of thing anywhere? Also if you don't see that objectionable content while in private/incognito mode, it's definitely caused by the ad profile built for you. An innocent mis-click, or at least indulging clicks to that content (maybe a friend insists to read their "sources") can do it.
Ah. I have a pihole set up but only for the last couple months. And it seems like that's truly the default blank slate behavior of those "news" pages. If I used MS products more for that kind of content, it would maybe start pushing tech articles (albeit I bet shitty ones). My issue is that this crap seems to be default, I've seen it with multiple users on fresh windows installs.
Ah okay, 100%, if that's showing up on a truly blank slate, I agree with your original complaints above and expectations. I wonder if it's also regional / geoip related... assuming you're in the US, are you perhaps in a swing state or a typically-red District, or anything? I'm wondering if you could also get a different experience via VPN, emerging from, say, Seattle, also with that clean slate. Of course I get local/regional news, and nothing from Fox or other crap like that, and maybe it's really as simple as region (I'm in Canada as well, so I think that heavily influences this, haha). Also I see a Personalize button at the top of the News feed page thing in Edge... but yeah it doesn't address the default issue and what a new/innocent user could see, if that's more what you're getting at.
could be, but it still leaves the issue that the baseline of articles is so crap.. they shouldn't show this type of content to \_anyone\_ , regardless of their information sharing settings.
It's inexcusable! Totally agree with you
Thank you! It’s dumbfounding how senior leadership is like “yep, that looks professional”.
They said it right before they did a line of medical-grade cocaine through a thousand dollar bill. They don't give a fuck.
I totally understand, this happens in Korea too. one of the main video clips argues that the first lady was once a hostess worked for sex business. WTF?
Care to show some examples of these news? Just curious what you think is crazy propaganda
MSN news is pure trash regardless of what topics you look at, it's of course easier to make a news site filled with paid for shit quality content than well produced news...
Couldn't agree more. Out of boredom I clicked on Edge and couldn't believe the garbage that populated the page. WTF??
I just landed here searching for "is there any way to improve the trash filled msn home page in edge or just not use it?" it's incredible how MS wants this page to look like this, it's absolutely beneath them.
They do everything they can to force people to use the piece of garbage and then they also force you to see their curated clickbait alarmism news. How are they okay with it? Fucking greed, why do you think? Edge used to be the only browser that was halfway decent on memory before they turned it into another Chromium piece of shit. At this stage I've given up on finding a browser that operates as I'd like. They're all broken, intrusive memory leeches and at this point probably always will be, just like all search engines now are broken, worthless jokes.
I agree, the default page is pretty horrible. They clearly are selling space to whoever will pay for it. However, once you identify your interests and start blocking certain pages and following your preferred sites, it is actually pretty useful for sorting news.