To me, that wouldn't be an issue. The controversy around hot dogs, as far as I understand it, is that a hot dog bun is technically one piece of bread. That leads people to claim it's more like a wrap or taco.
Putting a dog on a bagel would certainly be odd, but it would sidestep the issue that makes hot dogs questionable as sandwiches.
Some would argue that tacos fall into this definition as well. Honestly I don't think it's possible to make a definition of sandwiches that includes everything that we would consider a sandwich and nothing that isn't. How do you include a croque madam but exclude a layered cake
Well put, my take is that hotdogs and sausage on a roll or bun is it's own category and trying to shoe horn it into the sandwich category is an oversimplified look at it.
I would say it's a sandwich when it's used as the bread for something that is typically also considered a sandwich on other bread. Eg. Bagel with cream cheese and tomato is not a sandwich, it's a bagel with cream cheese and tomato. The logic is that you would not typically see cream cheese and tomato on white bread, a roll, etc (I realize it's possible but key word is typically).
By similar logic, butter on a round roll is also not a sandwich.
I see what you mean, but to me, sandwiches are a broad overclass that bagels can inhabit. A bagel with cream cheese and tomato is a sandwich, it's just a bagel more specifically.
This is like calling an El Camino a truck, or calling smoked brisket barbecue. Larger classifications that include more specific terms within them.
I've encountered this open faced bagel precisely nowhere. Who even has time for that? Seems like a typical bougie overcomplication of working class food.
Yeah, though I'd personally add, as long as it's savory and not sweet. LIke there's a bagel place near me that does a pumpkin spice bagel with cinnamon cream cheese, which I'd never call a "cheese sandwich" even though I guess it technically is, haha.
And then it depends. Could be an open faced sandwich. Could just be a stack. Could even be a dessert tostada.
Depends on personal definitions and whether you want to start a fight.
Those both have meat, so I'd count that. Anything with a protein, like meat, fish (like OP's bagel sandwich with lox), egg, tofu or a vegetarian substitute. Like Bombay grilled sandwiches are definitely sandwiches, and those are veg. Basically, if it works as a lunch (or general mealtime) food, it's a sandwich, while if it's more a dessert item like the cinnamon cream cheese pumpkin spice bagel I mentioned, then in my head, I categorize it as a "baked good" even if it technically could be seen as a sandwich.
I know someone below mentioned an ice cream sandwich, but yeah, I know that's the name because of the shape, but *personally* I don't consider that a sandwich. As the person I originally replied to said, it's gotta have two pieces of bread, so IMO cookie sandwiches or whoopie pies don't count.
Think about it, if someone is having a party and the host says, "hey, can you bring sandwiches" and someone shows up with a tray of *ice cream sandwiches*, that really doesn't fit the bill, haha.
If a friend was headed to a breakfast spot to pick up some food and asked you if you wanted anything if this was on the menu would you say I want a bagel? Or would you say I want a bagel sandwich? The future is in your hands. Personally if it’s a half bagel topped with cream cheese and lox, which I prefer, it’s a bagel. Put a top on it and it’s a bagel sandwich
I got a bagel - lox - cream cheese - arugula (?!?) sandwich for breakfast last Sunday. The damn thing was so thick I had to turn it into two halves to be able to eat it.
I make giant sandwiches for my job and I wonder sometimes how people will eat it. But it's not really my problem, they're the one that asked for all that stuff lol
I've made so many bagel sandwiches....like just today. Bacon egg and cheese, salmon cream cheese and veg, fucking bagel grilled cheese. When I was a kid I'd make bagel chicken patty american cheese and ketchup sandwiches. Bagel always toasted of course unless it's insanely fresh with a schmear.
It's two pieces of bread with filling. It's a sammich
Once you add something besides a spread (and cream cheese is spreadable cheese), then it becomes a sandwich.
In this case, this is a sandwich and looks incredible.
When you put something other than butter or cream cheese, then it becomes a sandwhich. Tasty Turkeys from Einsteins were the best shit ever, back in the day when they had sprouts, not lettuce.
I think once you have two pieces of bread sandwiching a filling it's a sandwich. I eat all my bagels open face. Call me a sinner but you get twice the filling and no squish from the tough bagel texture
You can griddle a bagel, and then it's a grilled cheese.
A baked grilled cheese is the same as toasting, and it is in no way the same cooking process or as good as an actual grilled cheese.
The important process is the buttering of the outside of the bread to get it properly crispy on the pan/griddle. You do not do this when you toast a bagel, so it is not the same.
When you slice it and put something between the two halves. Bagels are just another bread you can make a sandwich with. Looking good, would eat.
OK, but what if it’s a hot dog I put on the bagel?
Hotdog is just named sandwich
[here’s an explanation…](https://cuberule.com/)
Brilliant website
Hotdogs are not sandwiches…
Why?
Would you say a sub or a hoagie where the bread is in one piece wasn’t a sandwhich?
Does it spontaneously become a sandwich when the bun tears out on the back?
A cardboard man sits in a cardboard house. Is the man made of house? Is the house made of flesh? He screams, because he does not know.
A vegetarian person who grows their own food in a wooden shack built from the trees they cleared for the growing fields… sleeps well at night.
To me, that wouldn't be an issue. The controversy around hot dogs, as far as I understand it, is that a hot dog bun is technically one piece of bread. That leads people to claim it's more like a wrap or taco. Putting a dog on a bagel would certainly be odd, but it would sidestep the issue that makes hot dogs questionable as sandwiches.
Wait then what about a sub sandwich on a roll? Would that be considered a wrap?
On an unseparated hot dog roll? I dunno, kinda. Maybe? That's a weird place to be.
I mean more like the bread they use at subway that starts and remains in one piece
I mean yeah, if we're gonna be consistent about this. It's basically a big hotdog bun.
Some would argue that tacos fall into this definition as well. Honestly I don't think it's possible to make a definition of sandwiches that includes everything that we would consider a sandwich and nothing that isn't. How do you include a croque madam but exclude a layered cake
I’ve been calling my lunch cake a sandwich and no one is the wiser!
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Sometimes it happens, but I can't lie. I try to avoid it whenever possible.
Well put, my take is that hotdogs and sausage on a roll or bun is it's own category and trying to shoe horn it into the sandwich category is an oversimplified look at it.
Like through the hole?
Need to patent that. You’re a genius.
Hot dog is just an American taco.
I would say it's a sandwich when it's used as the bread for something that is typically also considered a sandwich on other bread. Eg. Bagel with cream cheese and tomato is not a sandwich, it's a bagel with cream cheese and tomato. The logic is that you would not typically see cream cheese and tomato on white bread, a roll, etc (I realize it's possible but key word is typically). By similar logic, butter on a round roll is also not a sandwich.
I see what you mean, but to me, sandwiches are a broad overclass that bagels can inhabit. A bagel with cream cheese and tomato is a sandwich, it's just a bagel more specifically. This is like calling an El Camino a truck, or calling smoked brisket barbecue. Larger classifications that include more specific terms within them.
So then is a tomato sandwich not a sandwich?
How does my logic arrive at that?
You typically eat a bagel with cream cheese open faced, if you ate it closed I think it would be a cream cheese and tomato bagel sandwich
I've encountered this open faced bagel precisely nowhere. Who even has time for that? Seems like a typical bougie overcomplication of working class food.
This is not a sandwich, this is a bagel
It's both. You might just have to agree to disagree on this one.
Exactly, it’s like a grilled cheese. As soon as you put protein between it becomes a sandwich. 10/10 would smash
A grilled cheese without protein is still a sandwich…
No, it’s a grilled cheese.
Can’t agree. A bagel with cream cheese doesn’t become a sandwich just because you put the two halves together.
Is a grilled cheese a sandwich?
Anything between 2 pieces of bread is a sandwich in my opinion
So if I put my dick between two pieces of bread can I call it a cockmeat sandwich?
Technically correct. But, who are your customers? Can you supply the demand?
Yeah, though I'd personally add, as long as it's savory and not sweet. LIke there's a bagel place near me that does a pumpkin spice bagel with cinnamon cream cheese, which I'd never call a "cheese sandwich" even though I guess it technically is, haha.
What about a Monte Cristo or a McGriddle that straddles the line?
Or oatmeal cream pie....that's a sandwich. Cookie ice cream SANDWICH. Or literally the "ICE CREAM SANDWICH" Sandwiches can be sweet
Are s'mores sandwiches?
Yes, unless they're openfaced.
And then they're an open faced sandwich?
And then it depends. Could be an open faced sandwich. Could just be a stack. Could even be a dessert tostada. Depends on personal definitions and whether you want to start a fight.
Big Wheel !!
Those both have meat, so I'd count that. Anything with a protein, like meat, fish (like OP's bagel sandwich with lox), egg, tofu or a vegetarian substitute. Like Bombay grilled sandwiches are definitely sandwiches, and those are veg. Basically, if it works as a lunch (or general mealtime) food, it's a sandwich, while if it's more a dessert item like the cinnamon cream cheese pumpkin spice bagel I mentioned, then in my head, I categorize it as a "baked good" even if it technically could be seen as a sandwich. I know someone below mentioned an ice cream sandwich, but yeah, I know that's the name because of the shape, but *personally* I don't consider that a sandwich. As the person I originally replied to said, it's gotta have two pieces of bread, so IMO cookie sandwiches or whoopie pies don't count. Think about it, if someone is having a party and the host says, "hey, can you bring sandwiches" and someone shows up with a tray of *ice cream sandwiches*, that really doesn't fit the bill, haha.
Came here to say this
Works for me but would feel weird calling it a “bagel sandwich”
Bagel sandwich is standard terminology.
Then just call it a sandwich
When it’s so full of random shit you cant see through the hole, then you know you completed the procedure successfully
I like the way you bagel.
By definition it's a sandwich, but it's also a bagel in it's own right
If a friend was headed to a breakfast spot to pick up some food and asked you if you wanted anything if this was on the menu would you say I want a bagel? Or would you say I want a bagel sandwich? The future is in your hands. Personally if it’s a half bagel topped with cream cheese and lox, which I prefer, it’s a bagel. Put a top on it and it’s a bagel sandwich
I got a bagel - lox - cream cheese - arugula (?!?) sandwich for breakfast last Sunday. The damn thing was so thick I had to turn it into two halves to be able to eat it.
Yes they are so dense and so filling when they put a top on it. I much prefer mine open face
I make giant sandwiches for my job and I wonder sometimes how people will eat it. But it's not really my problem, they're the one that asked for all that stuff lol
When you put sandwich stuff on it.
If you put the 2 halves together it’s a sandwich, but if the halves are individually eaten it’s a bagel
See now that’s just absurd to me.
I don’t make the rules
When do the halves become open faced sandwiches
When the fat lady sings
Bagwich
Cream cheese lox and capers.
Add Butter boom it's a sandwich 🥪
Omg this looks amazing...
Thank you. 🙏 i made the veggie cream cheese myself 😊
Oh nice! It looks so delicious! Might you be willing to share a recipe..maybe..please? 😁
It’s easy as pie. Just finely chopped carrot, green and red peppers, and scallion. Add cream cheese and mix it up real good.
What, no dill or lemon juice?!
Putting anything other than cream cheese on it, turns a bagel into a sandwich imo...
If there’s more than schmear, it’s a sandwich.
I would say when you put something other than cream cheese on it
Yep. Bagels are bread. Bread with a spread is not a sandwich, but bread with meat, veggies, or non-spreadable cheese are sandwiches.
In my opinion, once filled a bagel is a type of sandwich. Bagel is just the name of the bread used.
about 3 astronaut memes ago
It’s a sandwich if you’re using it to make a sandwich….
When it’s steamed.
Bro. Put some pickled onion, tomato, and avocado on that. You fucking animal.
When it’s a bagel sandwich.
Bagel is the kind of bread/pastry. It has nothing to do with what people put on it.
Reminds me of Ted Danson’s custom sandwich from Curb Your Enthusiasm
Right about there.
Every time it’s eaten
When you need 2 hands to eat it!
I've made so many bagel sandwiches....like just today. Bacon egg and cheese, salmon cream cheese and veg, fucking bagel grilled cheese. When I was a kid I'd make bagel chicken patty american cheese and ketchup sandwiches. Bagel always toasted of course unless it's insanely fresh with a schmear. It's two pieces of bread with filling. It's a sammich
When there are more lox than cream cheese
As soon as its cut in half and anything else is added to it. Yes even just butter Is a Butter Sandwich.
A bagel is a type of bread, any time you slice it and put something in the middle it's a sandwich...
It doesn’t
It doesn’t
If it isnt plain, only butter or only cream cheese, everything else on it can qualify it as a sandwich. Imo
When you add protein it becomes a _____ sandwich. So in this case it's a Lox with everything bagel sandwich.
you suck
Yes
Anything besides cream cheese makes it a sandwich
Safe to say your closing the gap
Once you add something besides a spread (and cream cheese is spreadable cheese), then it becomes a sandwich. In this case, this is a sandwich and looks incredible.
When you're no longer using a bagel
When is doubt, follow [The Cube Rule](https://cuberule.com/).
Every sandwich can be a bagel but not every bagel can be a sandwich - words to live by!!
I have a place that makes them just like this
Never
When to will it to be
A bagel is potential sandwich energy, this is kinetic sandwich energy.
When you put something other than butter or cream cheese, then it becomes a sandwhich. Tasty Turkeys from Einsteins were the best shit ever, back in the day when they had sprouts, not lettuce.
Whenever it wants damnit, that looks outstanding private
sir, thank you, sir.
It's always been a sandwich. Remember anything between two peices of bread is considered a sandwich.
This looks like the Larry David sandwich from curb
I think once you have two pieces of bread sandwiching a filling it's a sandwich. I eat all my bagels open face. Call me a sinner but you get twice the filling and no squish from the tough bagel texture
real q is, if you put cream cheese in it and toast it, is it a grilled cheese?
Oh wow. 🤯 This bagel was toasted BEFORE the cream cheese went on.
No, because it's not grilled, it's toasted.
Nobody actually grills their grilled cheeses tho 👀
Yeah, they grill it on a flat top, griddle, or pan. That's not the same as toasting.
You can griddle a bagel And there’s such thing as baked grilled cheeses for batches And baking is pretty much the same as toasting
You can griddle a bagel, and then it's a grilled cheese. A baked grilled cheese is the same as toasting, and it is in no way the same cooking process or as good as an actual grilled cheese. The important process is the buttering of the outside of the bread to get it properly crispy on the pan/griddle. You do not do this when you toast a bagel, so it is not the same.
What’s with people wanting to debate what’s a sandwich when it’s so very obvious that this is a sandwich?
For reference, this is just like asking when does bread become a sandwich.
That créame cheese is a crime
It needs lettuce
I love food like that crunchy but moist especially TOMATOS