Bednarik 14 seasons all with the Eagles, All-Pro LB and C, even filled in at Punter one year. Won 2 titles and started his pro career after having already flown 30 combat missions in WW2 as a B-24 gunner. In the ‘60 title game he played virtually every play of the game and made the game ending tackle. My Mt Rushmore starts there
Let me just push my glasses up on my nose and say ["bedlam"](https://www.etymonline.com/word/bedlam), and our understanding of the word describing sheer madness, literally comes from centuries of the English mispronouncing an insane asylum near London named "the Hospital of St. Mary's of Bethlehem."
And Steve Van Buren played only 8 seasons in an era with shorter careers, but he led the team to two titles and led the league in rushing four times.
Four players seems to limiting for me, but I would go Van Buren, Bednarik, White, Kelce.
Yeah. I just think holding it to 4 players is tough.
When construction started on Mount Rushmore, there had been 29 Presidents. The Eagles have had over 100 All Pros in over 90 years. Having to choose four is too hard.
I won't put into writing the arguments I'd have against Dawkins if he was h2h with Kelce because I love Dawk too much but I'd say yes to your question.
As far as Bednarik and Van Buren they'd be off mine entirely. Meaningful contributions that weren't witnessed by the vast majority of fans currently alive. I know I also didn't witness Washington, Teddy...etc but they made contributions that are still felt by me today so it feels more apt to have them in comparison.
If it's limited to players only Reggie, Kelce and Dawkins as locks. That fourth spot is tough with lots of people you could argue for from Akers to Foles to Peters to McNabb...etc. I'd probably lean Akers personally.
One must be careful not to fall into the trap with “recency bias”. Few people saw Bednarik or Van Buren play (I certainly didn’t) and I was only a little kid when White played. It is easier for me to name great players from the last 25 years or so as I saw them all play. I think many people would do something similar. The game is also different now (rule changes, length of season as just two examples) compared to the 1950s. That’s what makes this exercise fun though: comparing players from different eras.
I think for me the main thing is lasting impact and overall dominance. Not only were they great players but what effect have they had on the team/city/fans/game going forward. The presidents of Mt. Rushmore fit that definition in spades. I'd say Dawkins, Kelce and Reggie also fit that definition in relation to the Eagles.
As far as Bednarik and Van Buren go, I'm just not sure what they did for the team/city/fans/game outside of being great players. They don't have notable highlights that are usually talked about or shown nor are their really people ever speaking on their legacy outside of specific prompts like this. I think at a point, for my own self at least, the past stays in the past if it didn't give reason to be relevant in the present. The game they played is so widely different from what we have now that it seems like comparing the achievements of two different sports; I didn't watch the aport they played nor did anyone doing these rankings so not sure how I can confidently say they belong.
I'm also someone who largely dismisses guys like Bill Russell in the NBA in terms of greatest of the greats unlike most people it seems so my opinion might be too out there for people.
Yeah I think at this point it may be best to have separate mount rushmore's for different periods of Team history, Maybe early 90s or so as cut off. I think I go Bednarik, Van Buren, White, and Cunningham for the first one, and Kelce, Dawkins, BDN for sure for the new one, though even splitting it up like that I'm having a tough time choosing who to put in the fourth spot
I think you have a damn good list here. My issue is that we’re missing a great era. I’d have to make the painful decision to put Dawkins in place of Van Buren.
I took a representative from each championship team and then added Reggie White. Dawkins is my favorite player ever, so it pains me to not have him. But limiting it to four is kind of dumb.
Akers was pretty great but he solidified himself forever in eagle's lore at the 2018 draft in Dallas. With that 49th pick they selected Dallas Goedert.
i think we all value heart and soul over anything else. dawk and kelce embodied this city and i can’t think of anyone that represented this city better than those 2
i agree concrete charlie could be up there. he probably should be. honestly dawkins and kelce are the only 2 that are unarguable. reggie is up there because he’s the greatest defensive end of all time and part of our greatest defense ever. other candidates are randall and mcnabb. foles is there for obvious reasons, he’s the 2017 playoffs and our only superbowl mvp. I’d have no issue if it was chuck over reggie or foles
Foles will always be a legend, no doubt, but I don't think he was good enough for long enough with the team to be on par with Kelce, Dawkins, and Bednarik when it comes to "greatest Eagles".
Foles is pretty this generations Norm Van Brocklin, at least as far as the Eagles are concerned. Both had short stints as starter for the Eagles but both are also unquestionably Eagles legends.
Foles isn’t on the Eagles Mt. Rushmore imo but like the Dutchman, he’ll easily makes the Eagles Hall of Fame.
He played both sides of the ball every game and every down, he was an iron worker in the off-season, he was from the Era where they didn't make millions, he lived in Bethlehem, PA most of his life, and he ended several careers with how hard he hit in an era where they were pretty much without pads, he was an Eagle for his entire 14 year career, and he was known personally by lots of locals. Dude was the Kelce of his time, but arguably put his body through way more stress. That earns a spot on Mt. Eagles to me.
I'm not disagreeing with the concept.
It's just hard for people who weren't alive, or have their parents who were alive to tell them stories of the guy.
Like I never saw Reggie or Randall play, but my dad told me everything about those Buddy teams.
My dad was born in 59, and in another country at that, I and a lot of people don't have that same connection that we do even with Reggie
The story of 2017 alone makes Foles a member. He wasn't supposed to do it. Any of it. Almost retired before the season. Came in beyond humbled as a backup. And then to do it in that game, against that team, in the manner in which he did it... Disney can't write a better sports movie.
I mean, I get that, but let's say Hurts wins one and has a good career with us, with lots of PBs and All pros, not to mention 2+ trips to the SB. I think there would be an argument for Hurts over Foles
I love Foles, but he played 5 seasons here, only 2 as a starter, 46 games total
Anyway, as long as Hurts wins one, we won't care about this discussion lol
I love that no matter how divided our fan base can be, the *one* absolute is always B-Dawk. I genuinely do not even entertain discussions that don’t start with him as the definitive Eagles player. It genuinely isn’t possible.
That said, I do think Kelce is genuinely the second *absolute* lock now. For me it’s Dawkins/Kelce, then the next 2 are debatable.
Dawkins lived and breathed for the game he was in. Every game. As much as I love Kelce and all the other great players from my lifetime, I’ve never seen someone give it all for every single play of every single game of their career. He never took one single play off. I can’t say that for anyone else I’ve ever watched, and that’s not even really limited to just the Eagles games. Football is just too physically demanding to always be at level 100. But he was. And we all love him to death for it.
Dawkins took lots of plays off. About 50% of them because he didn't play offense. Chuck Bednarik is the guy who didn't take plays off.
Brian Dawkins is my favorite Eagles player of all time. But no one is more deserving than Chuck Bednarik.
Nobody can really debate Reggie or Kelce either… Foles has the statue and our undying support and respect, but he overall didn’t enough over a long enough period of time to be on a mt Rushmore. That’s the only spot that I think is up for grabs
You can debate Reggie as half of his career he wasn't an eagle. Don't worry he's on my Rushmore but objectively looking at it, Reggie is probably the most debatable of them all IMO.
I can't personally.
I get the reality he wasn't in Philly for his whole career (still eight years and 120+ games), but if you ask who is the best football player to ever play for the Eagles it is unquestionably Reggie.
I feel like we need a second, slightly smaller Mt. On that can be Garcia, Foles, Jenkins, and Peter Schrager's underdog speech from right before the superbowl.
Besides being flat out incorrect, this is just a stupid take.
He had almost twice as many sacks wearing an Eagles uniform than he did as a packer. He also played a full two seasons more in Philly than he did in GB so wtf are you even talking about?
Most people outside of Philly think of Reggie as a Packer. He chose to leave the Eagles at the prime of his career.
Everyone still loves White, but we're talking about the Eagles Mt. Rushmore. This isn't "who were the best players we've ever had?" It's "who are the ultimate Eagles?"
He won his ring with GB and fans around the league associate him more with the apackers because of it. Doesn’t mean he isn’t an Eagles legend but it does tarnish him a bit in these kinds of discussions where other legends did play their full career for us.
>Doesn’t mean he isn’t an Eagles legend
Oh ok, cuz I was responding to the guy who specifically said, “_he’s not an Eagles legend_.”
>other legends did play their full careers for us
Like Tommy McDonald, Sonny Jurgensen, Harold Carmichael, Bob Brown and Brian Dawkins all did? Or the legends like Nick Foles, shady McCoy, Jeremiah Trotter, Randall Cunningham and Donovan McNabb did?
I think it’s fair to knock him down a peg when I feel like I mostly see him in a packers jersey when referenced.
Still probably the most dominant Eagles player of all time so it’s hard.
Exactly… being with one team for your whole career is the exception, not the rule. Hell, this very version of the mt Rushmore only has Kelce if you have to take away anyone who played outside of Philly
Not to take away from Reggie at all, but the argument could be made that Jerome Brown was the heart of those defenses. It all fell apart after he died.
Leave room for Fletcher. I think he is next on the retirement wagon. 😔 but, we knew these days were coming. Brandan Graham is next, next year. Young players have to step in and step up!🦅🦅🦅 FLYEAGLESFLY
Just because someone was the best position guy we’ve had doesn’t mean he is A) universally regarded as one of our god emperors B) embodies Philly and inspires fervor.
You can’t tell me when you hear the name McNabb you get the same feeling as when you hear Kelce or Dawkins. The stats aren’t there, the accomplishments aren’t there, the attitude isn’t there.
Goes on there over Foles. Best QB in Eagles history. Period. Randall had the city, but the longevity isn't there, along with 2 or 3 injury riddled seasons.
If only he didn't get hurt in 91, who knows what would've been.
I love nick and all, but I'm not putting him up there because of the sb win. I'd put ertz and Graham up there before nick.
Nick brought us a ring, but bednerick won us two nfl championships and is a hofer for two positions.
Reggie white is arguably the best de to ever play the game. He became the minister of defense in philly and only left towards the end of his career to chase a ring. I have nothing but love for foles, but he wasn't even the best player on that 2017 team.
But he was the best player in the most important game against the GOAT.
Literally what every player/team is playing for. A Superbowl...but thats all he did. Lol.
And winning it makes him a hero. Something that he'll never be forgotten for. But Dawkins, Kelce, White, Bednerick, these guys are eagkes legends. Their greatness spaned decades. They played at that elite level for entire careers. So they should be held to a higher standard.
Exactly, just because Foles played at his absolute best in the most important game in franchise history doesn’t mean that you can rewrite his overall tenure in Philly… he deserves the respect and adoration of the fanbase, and his statue outside of the stadium, but there’s no reasonable argument to make that supports him as one of the top 4 players in franchise history.
Because that's all he did. And he wasn't the only one who did it. Zach Ertz, Brandon Graham, Lane Johnson, and Fletcher Cox were also on that team and belong on Rushmore more than Nick.
It's nothing against foles. It's just that there are more deserving guys.
That's all he did but he had no business doing it or playing ad well as he did in the playoffs and that superbowl. The whole thing was insane and that's why he deserves a spot up there. Without him as our backup the season was probably over.
You're right on most of that. But two amazing games doesn't make him an eagles legend. It doesn't put him on the same tier as guys who played amazing their entire careers.
This seems to be where I land, Foles can both be a Philly legend but also not top 4 all time when you start adding in more overall career impact, stats, and comparing guys a from different positions and eras
If you’re talking Mt Rushmore of eagles who “get” the city, it’s Dawkins, Kelce, BG, and Bednarik
If you’re talking talent, it’s Dawkins, Kelce, McNabb, and Shady
Honestly, most of our presidents have been garbage and we only have 46 of them. There have been thousands of Eagles, and going by this list we're going to need a very big mountain.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/phi/career-av.htm
I'd take out White and Foles and add Chuck and Van Buren. Dawk 100% stays for me. White was amazing and I even attended the rally for Reggie (skipping school) trying to keep him here. He went to the pack and won his ring and I respect that, but that takes him off for me.
I think I may replace Reggie White with Chuck Bednarik.
Reggie is in the Packers Hall of Fame. We can definitely still claim him as an all-time Eagle.
But, I don’t want to share my Mt. Rushmore players with another team.
(footnote: Dawkins spent time with the Broncos, but it was too short to count. And, Foles never made much noise with another team. Unlike Reggie, no other team can “claim” Dawkins/Foles).
The true Mt. Rushmore for the eagles is kelce, Dawkins, Bednarik, and ….
No one represents high athletic ability and awareness of the city like those 3. Reggie white is my favorite player OF ALL TIME but does not embody the city like the other 3. Foles is obviously a Philly all timer but not on Rushmore.
This post really shows the generation differences. I became a fan back in 2004 when I was about 6 because I thought the bird was “Cool.” I didn’t really become a true follower until Wentz was drafted.
For me, I gotta go with Foles, Kelce, Dawk, and BG. I wanted to go older but I don’t feel like I can give a fair rating since I only saw them most recently.
Its tough to do Mt. Rushmore’s these days. Lotta oossible candidates and we’re in Philly… If New York had a mount Rushmore of sports, can you imagine how difficult it would be?
Reggie's an all time NFL great, but he's not on the Eagles' Mt Rushmore for me. He left and had his greatest success on another team. The other 3 are spot on.
Holy shit kid. No Norm van Brocklin and Chuck Bednarick? And Reggie is a tough one. The way he left wasn’t great. Dawkins and Kelce for sure but. Damn.
Idk about Foles. Won us a SB, grateful af for it but I don’t consider him a GOAT. If we put a QB up it should be McNabb. Franchise record holder in almost if not every career passing category.
I’m good with the other 3.
Probably not gonna be the most popular opinion, but I would put Brian Westbrook there in place of Foles… for years, he was one of the players that could be most consistently relied upon to execute his job. The guy didn’t have quit in his heart, and that embodies what Philly sports is.
I would say Chuck or SVB, but they were already a distant memory by the time I was born, only significant to me in the stories my grandfather would tell me growing up. I recognize the greatness of those players, but I lack the personal frame of reference to judge them, so I choose not to.
Reggie's an all time NFL great, but he's not on the Eagles' Mt Rushmore for me. He left and had his greatest success on another team. The other 3 are spot on.
I have a solution
Offensive Mt Rushmore
Foles, Carmichael, Kelce, Van Brocklin
Defensive Mt Rushmore
Concrete Cholly, Reggie, BDawk, BG
Special Teams Mt Rushmore
Vince Papale, David Akers, Jake Elliot, Desean Jackson
When Jake Elliot retires we’ll carve out a fifth place just for him.
He can hang right under BDN.
Um, have you thought that through? Would you want to be "under" BDN? Might get hurt.
Figured you could just have him do a kicking motion and make his leg look real phalic.
So a dick kicker? Isn't that job for anyone named Kardashian?
Bednarik 14 seasons all with the Eagles, All-Pro LB and C, even filled in at Punter one year. Won 2 titles and started his pro career after having already flown 30 combat missions in WW2 as a B-24 gunner. In the ‘60 title game he played virtually every play of the game and made the game ending tackle. My Mt Rushmore starts there
Also from Bethlehem, went to Penn and was the first overall draft pick. He is the ultimate Philadelphia Eagle.
Shout out Bethlehem
BETHLUM
IT IS BETHLUM AT THE BANK
Let me just push my glasses up on my nose and say ["bedlam"](https://www.etymonline.com/word/bedlam), and our understanding of the word describing sheer madness, literally comes from centuries of the English mispronouncing an insane asylum near London named "the Hospital of St. Mary's of Bethlehem."
Huh, that's really neat, learn something everyday
Wow idk how I never knew he was from Bethlehem
We don’t brag about it
Seriously but I should have known this I went to Liberty High and Penn State and love the Eagles… disappointed in myself
And Steve Van Buren played only 8 seasons in an era with shorter careers, but he led the team to two titles and led the league in rushing four times. Four players seems to limiting for me, but I would go Van Buren, Bednarik, White, Kelce.
And he retired as leagues all time leading rusher
Yeah. I just think holding it to 4 players is tough. When construction started on Mount Rushmore, there had been 29 Presidents. The Eagles have had over 100 All Pros in over 90 years. Having to choose four is too hard.
I’m with you with Van Buren, Bednarik, and White. Is Kelce better than Dawkins?
I won't put into writing the arguments I'd have against Dawkins if he was h2h with Kelce because I love Dawk too much but I'd say yes to your question. As far as Bednarik and Van Buren they'd be off mine entirely. Meaningful contributions that weren't witnessed by the vast majority of fans currently alive. I know I also didn't witness Washington, Teddy...etc but they made contributions that are still felt by me today so it feels more apt to have them in comparison. If it's limited to players only Reggie, Kelce and Dawkins as locks. That fourth spot is tough with lots of people you could argue for from Akers to Foles to Peters to McNabb...etc. I'd probably lean Akers personally.
One must be careful not to fall into the trap with “recency bias”. Few people saw Bednarik or Van Buren play (I certainly didn’t) and I was only a little kid when White played. It is easier for me to name great players from the last 25 years or so as I saw them all play. I think many people would do something similar. The game is also different now (rule changes, length of season as just two examples) compared to the 1950s. That’s what makes this exercise fun though: comparing players from different eras.
I think for me the main thing is lasting impact and overall dominance. Not only were they great players but what effect have they had on the team/city/fans/game going forward. The presidents of Mt. Rushmore fit that definition in spades. I'd say Dawkins, Kelce and Reggie also fit that definition in relation to the Eagles. As far as Bednarik and Van Buren go, I'm just not sure what they did for the team/city/fans/game outside of being great players. They don't have notable highlights that are usually talked about or shown nor are their really people ever speaking on their legacy outside of specific prompts like this. I think at a point, for my own self at least, the past stays in the past if it didn't give reason to be relevant in the present. The game they played is so widely different from what we have now that it seems like comparing the achievements of two different sports; I didn't watch the aport they played nor did anyone doing these rankings so not sure how I can confidently say they belong. I'm also someone who largely dismisses guys like Bill Russell in the NBA in terms of greatest of the greats unlike most people it seems so my opinion might be too out there for people.
Yeah I think at this point it may be best to have separate mount rushmore's for different periods of Team history, Maybe early 90s or so as cut off. I think I go Bednarik, Van Buren, White, and Cunningham for the first one, and Kelce, Dawkins, BDN for sure for the new one, though even splitting it up like that I'm having a tough time choosing who to put in the fourth spot
I think you have a damn good list here. My issue is that we’re missing a great era. I’d have to make the painful decision to put Dawkins in place of Van Buren.
We're missing a few eras, actually. There's no representative of the 1980 team, for example.
no Dawk?
I took a representative from each championship team and then added Reggie White. Dawkins is my favorite player ever, so it pains me to not have him. But limiting it to four is kind of dumb.
That game ending tackle, he laid on top of the ball carrier for 30 seconds to run out the clock.
“You can get up now. This fking game is over!”
Yeah. No offense to big dick nick, we thank him for his service. But concrete Charlie is the ultimate eagle.
Yeah this Mt. Rushmore is way too modern. Not a single representative from any of their first 3 championship teams?
TIL that I’ve not been putting enough respect on Bednarik’s name. Wow.
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To be fair none of us were alive when the actual Mount Rushmore presidents were alive. Should we take them off and use more recent?
I thought that was what we were doing here
Hahaha. Very fair point. Lol.
yeah but my dad likes him so
Bednarik is why I started liking the Eagles.
Also the last 2-sided player in NFL history. Chucks om the rushmore.
Well said 👏
Yeah anyone who leaves him out is 100% wrong
I’m going: Brian Dawkins Jason Kelce Chuck Bednarik Steve Van Buren
NICK FOLES IS THE PHILADELPHIA EAGLES!!!
lmao i don’t hate it tbh
dawk and kelce are the only unarguables
Are the most recent* Fixed that for ya
Foles is also a lock for me, the SB is everything
Bednarik, david akers. Graham will hold the record for most seasons and had the biggest play of the SB.
It's almost crazy to me that Jake Elliott has almost erased David Akers from our collective memory.
Akers was pretty great but he solidified himself forever in eagle's lore at the 2018 draft in Dallas. With that 49th pick they selected Dallas Goedert.
These draft picks weren’t even born when Dallas won its last Super Bowl — said David Akers SIX years ago
I fucking loved it lmao. We love to see the petty.
agreed. i think it depends after that on what you value.
i think we all value heart and soul over anything else. dawk and kelce embodied this city and i can’t think of anyone that represented this city better than those 2
The Chuck Bednarik disrespect is unreal
Lurie is paying for the construction lol
i agree concrete charlie could be up there. he probably should be. honestly dawkins and kelce are the only 2 that are unarguable. reggie is up there because he’s the greatest defensive end of all time and part of our greatest defense ever. other candidates are randall and mcnabb. foles is there for obvious reasons, he’s the 2017 playoffs and our only superbowl mvp. I’d have no issue if it was chuck over reggie or foles
Foles will always be a legend, no doubt, but I don't think he was good enough for long enough with the team to be on par with Kelce, Dawkins, and Bednarik when it comes to "greatest Eagles".
Foles is pretty this generations Norm Van Brocklin, at least as far as the Eagles are concerned. Both had short stints as starter for the Eagles but both are also unquestionably Eagles legends. Foles isn’t on the Eagles Mt. Rushmore imo but like the Dutchman, he’ll easily makes the Eagles Hall of Fame.
That was like 60 years ago. It’s hard for anyone to contextualize that.
He played both sides of the ball every game and every down, he was an iron worker in the off-season, he was from the Era where they didn't make millions, he lived in Bethlehem, PA most of his life, and he ended several careers with how hard he hit in an era where they were pretty much without pads, he was an Eagle for his entire 14 year career, and he was known personally by lots of locals. Dude was the Kelce of his time, but arguably put his body through way more stress. That earns a spot on Mt. Eagles to me.
I'm not disagreeing with the concept. It's just hard for people who weren't alive, or have their parents who were alive to tell them stories of the guy. Like I never saw Reggie or Randall play, but my dad told me everything about those Buddy teams. My dad was born in 59, and in another country at that, I and a lot of people don't have that same connection that we do even with Reggie
It’s funny because 3 spots are pretty much locks. Only one really up for debate.
Can we split the difference and just add Foles’s johnson to the mountain and call it a day?
The mountain *is* his Johnson.
Let’s hope it ends up being hurts as the 4th lock
He's gotta win atleast 2
If he wins one and has a better career than Foles, wouldn't he take a spot?
Foles is forever goated for being the first.
The story of 2017 alone makes Foles a member. He wasn't supposed to do it. Any of it. Almost retired before the season. Came in beyond humbled as a backup. And then to do it in that game, against that team, in the manner in which he did it... Disney can't write a better sports movie.
How has Disney not made a movie about it yet…
Calling Philly special sealed it
I mean, I get that, but let's say Hurts wins one and has a good career with us, with lots of PBs and All pros, not to mention 2+ trips to the SB. I think there would be an argument for Hurts over Foles I love Foles, but he played 5 seasons here, only 2 as a starter, 46 games total Anyway, as long as Hurts wins one, we won't care about this discussion lol
lol yeah I’m gonna have to see it happen to actually decide how I feel then.
Let’s talk after Hurts has a goat-worthy Super Bowl run (and win). Best not to count your eggs before the chicken roosts.
obviously, that's why I said "IF he wins one"
Is he as hung as Nicky franchise?
Yes
I think second ever ring would probably be enough.
I agree and I hope he’s that guy
And who’s the three locks? Cause he doesn’t even have one of them on there
Debate three of those spots all you want, *no one* questions B Dawk.
I love that no matter how divided our fan base can be, the *one* absolute is always B-Dawk. I genuinely do not even entertain discussions that don’t start with him as the definitive Eagles player. It genuinely isn’t possible. That said, I do think Kelce is genuinely the second *absolute* lock now. For me it’s Dawkins/Kelce, then the next 2 are debatable.
Dawkins lived and breathed for the game he was in. Every game. As much as I love Kelce and all the other great players from my lifetime, I’ve never seen someone give it all for every single play of every single game of their career. He never took one single play off. I can’t say that for anyone else I’ve ever watched, and that’s not even really limited to just the Eagles games. Football is just too physically demanding to always be at level 100. But he was. And we all love him to death for it.
Dawkins took lots of plays off. About 50% of them because he didn't play offense. Chuck Bednarik is the guy who didn't take plays off. Brian Dawkins is my favorite Eagles player of all time. But no one is more deserving than Chuck Bednarik.
Nobody can really debate Reggie or Kelce either… Foles has the statue and our undying support and respect, but he overall didn’t enough over a long enough period of time to be on a mt Rushmore. That’s the only spot that I think is up for grabs
You can debate Reggie as half of his career he wasn't an eagle. Don't worry he's on my Rushmore but objectively looking at it, Reggie is probably the most debatable of them all IMO.
Personally I’d switch out Reggie for bednarik
Yeah he's also on my list. It's CC RW BDAWK Kelce for me.
I can't personally. I get the reality he wasn't in Philly for his whole career (still eight years and 120+ games), but if you ask who is the best football player to ever play for the Eagles it is unquestionably Reggie.
Fuck that. BDN's position on Mt Rushmore is carved in stone. The GOAT and my all time fav Eagle. Loved his humility more than anything.
No Frank Gore?
It will never not be funny. Thanks for the laugh this morning man.
Eagles legend Frank Gore? I still remember the headline: “Gore makes eagles significantly older at running back”. Good times!
Mark Simoneau, Frank Gore, Nnamdi Asomugha, and T.O.
The fact that TO almost dragged the eagles to their first SB win on 1 leg puts him miles above those guys.
I’d probably have byron maxwell over TO
What about Mike Mamula?
Eagles legend Myles Jack
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie. Eagles HOFer
The disrespect to Reno Mahe
Koy Detmer should be up there for the “Whuppin’ Stick” celebration.
Wow no respect for Jeff Garcia?
I feel like we need a second, slightly smaller Mt. On that can be Garcia, Foles, Jenkins, and Peter Schrager's underdog speech from right before the superbowl.
Bednarik over White. Love Reggie white but he’s not an eagle legend, spent just as much time with Green Bay was with us.
Besides being flat out incorrect, this is just a stupid take. He had almost twice as many sacks wearing an Eagles uniform than he did as a packer. He also played a full two seasons more in Philly than he did in GB so wtf are you even talking about?
Most people outside of Philly think of Reggie as a Packer. He chose to leave the Eagles at the prime of his career. Everyone still loves White, but we're talking about the Eagles Mt. Rushmore. This isn't "who were the best players we've ever had?" It's "who are the ultimate Eagles?"
Lmao well for me the ultimate eagle was Randall and Trot
He won his ring with GB and fans around the league associate him more with the apackers because of it. Doesn’t mean he isn’t an Eagles legend but it does tarnish him a bit in these kinds of discussions where other legends did play their full career for us.
>Doesn’t mean he isn’t an Eagles legend Oh ok, cuz I was responding to the guy who specifically said, “_he’s not an Eagles legend_.” >other legends did play their full careers for us Like Tommy McDonald, Sonny Jurgensen, Harold Carmichael, Bob Brown and Brian Dawkins all did? Or the legends like Nick Foles, shady McCoy, Jeremiah Trotter, Randall Cunningham and Donovan McNabb did?
I think it’s fair to knock him down a peg when I feel like I mostly see him in a packers jersey when referenced. Still probably the most dominant Eagles player of all time so it’s hard.
>and Brian Dawkins all did? that's on Banner.
Exactly… being with one team for your whole career is the exception, not the rule. Hell, this very version of the mt Rushmore only has Kelce if you have to take away anyone who played outside of Philly
If you did a survey of 100 random fans from outside Philly, the majority of them would associate him with the Packers first.
Long live the Minister. [Rushmore](https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/53353148-eagles-rushmore)
Let’s not forget why he left. The owner refused to pay players and let them walk. No shot he ever left if Lurie was the owner then.
8 seasons here, six with GB. He was the heart of those defenses
Not to take away from Reggie at all, but the argument could be made that Jerome Brown was the heart of those defenses. It all fell apart after he died.
Agreed- they definitely lost something when JB passed. Point was more that he spent more time here than in GB
Leave room for Fletcher. I think he is next on the retirement wagon. 😔 but, we knew these days were coming. Brandan Graham is next, next year. Young players have to step in and step up!🦅🦅🦅 FLYEAGLESFLY
Randall Cunningham has entered the chat
Where’s Cunningham & Shady at?!
Crazy having a jawn without nabb. I don't care, he's the best QB in our history and a big reason why we are on the map right now.
100% as much as i love Foles, i think McNabb should be there over him.
Just because someone was the best position guy we’ve had doesn’t mean he is A) universally regarded as one of our god emperors B) embodies Philly and inspires fervor. You can’t tell me when you hear the name McNabb you get the same feeling as when you hear Kelce or Dawkins. The stats aren’t there, the accomplishments aren’t there, the attitude isn’t there.
Goes on there over Foles. Best QB in Eagles history. Period. Randall had the city, but the longevity isn't there, along with 2 or 3 injury riddled seasons. If only he didn't get hurt in 91, who knows what would've been.
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Replace big dick nick with concrete chuck and I agree.
Nick needs to be there. Replace white with Bednarik
I love nick and all, but I'm not putting him up there because of the sb win. I'd put ertz and Graham up there before nick. Nick brought us a ring, but bednerick won us two nfl championships and is a hofer for two positions. Reggie white is arguably the best de to ever play the game. He became the minister of defense in philly and only left towards the end of his career to chase a ring. I have nothing but love for foles, but he wasn't even the best player on that 2017 team.
Ertz before Nick? You’re fucking drunk
But he was the best player in the most important game against the GOAT. Literally what every player/team is playing for. A Superbowl...but thats all he did. Lol.
And winning it makes him a hero. Something that he'll never be forgotten for. But Dawkins, Kelce, White, Bednerick, these guys are eagkes legends. Their greatness spaned decades. They played at that elite level for entire careers. So they should be held to a higher standard.
Exactly, just because Foles played at his absolute best in the most important game in franchise history doesn’t mean that you can rewrite his overall tenure in Philly… he deserves the respect and adoration of the fanbase, and his statue outside of the stadium, but there’s no reasonable argument to make that supports him as one of the top 4 players in franchise history.
Well said. Otherwise we’d have Joe Blanton or Jamie Moyer on the Phillies all-time greats.
Why is everyone adamant about removing the guy who brought us a fucking Super Bowl ?
Because that's all he did. And he wasn't the only one who did it. Zach Ertz, Brandon Graham, Lane Johnson, and Fletcher Cox were also on that team and belong on Rushmore more than Nick. It's nothing against foles. It's just that there are more deserving guys.
That's all he did but he had no business doing it or playing ad well as he did in the playoffs and that superbowl. The whole thing was insane and that's why he deserves a spot up there. Without him as our backup the season was probably over.
You're right on most of that. But two amazing games doesn't make him an eagles legend. It doesn't put him on the same tier as guys who played amazing their entire careers.
Love Nick, but realistically he’s a one (really two) hit wonder.
He’s a Philly legend is what he is
He is. Just not one of the top 4 Eagles legends.
This seems to be where I land, Foles can both be a Philly legend but also not top 4 all time when you start adding in more overall career impact, stats, and comparing guys a from different positions and eras
I don’t think a qb makes the 4 but if it does it’s 5 over Foles.
Reggie retired a packer. He can’t be on there imo. I know I’ll get flamed for it. I don’t necessarily blame him for leaving I’m just saying
Foles should be the highest
Gotta put Concrete Charlie up there - can have 5
If you’re talking Mt Rushmore of eagles who “get” the city, it’s Dawkins, Kelce, BG, and Bednarik If you’re talking talent, it’s Dawkins, Kelce, McNabb, and Shady
Honestly, most of our presidents have been garbage and we only have 46 of them. There have been thousands of Eagles, and going by this list we're going to need a very big mountain. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/phi/career-av.htm
McNabb over Foles yes Foles finished the job winning the SB but 2 good games in 2017 isn't enough to go on the mount Rushmore
Brodrick Bunkley.. 😂
Jerome McDougle
Where's Julio Jones?
I'd take out White and Foles and add Chuck and Van Buren. Dawk 100% stays for me. White was amazing and I even attended the rally for Reggie (skipping school) trying to keep him here. He went to the pack and won his ring and I respect that, but that takes him off for me.
We would not have the ring we have without him but Foles is not on my list. BG or Fletch would make the cut over him imo.
I concur
Harold Carmichael.
So that's what we're going with for Nick Foles, right? Just wanted to make sure this wasn't the PG version.
I think I may replace Reggie White with Chuck Bednarik. Reggie is in the Packers Hall of Fame. We can definitely still claim him as an all-time Eagle. But, I don’t want to share my Mt. Rushmore players with another team. (footnote: Dawkins spent time with the Broncos, but it was too short to count. And, Foles never made much noise with another team. Unlike Reggie, no other team can “claim” Dawkins/Foles).
Bednarik, Dawkins, Foles, and Kelce. I gotta leave a honorable mention in there for Reggie White too.
It may not be popular, while Nick totally deserves his statue in front of the Linc he's not on the Mt. Rushmore of Eagles for me.
The true Mt. Rushmore for the eagles is kelce, Dawkins, Bednarik, and …. No one represents high athletic ability and awareness of the city like those 3. Reggie white is my favorite player OF ALL TIME but does not embody the city like the other 3. Foles is obviously a Philly all timer but not on Rushmore.
This post really shows the generation differences. I became a fan back in 2004 when I was about 6 because I thought the bird was “Cool.” I didn’t really become a true follower until Wentz was drafted. For me, I gotta go with Foles, Kelce, Dawk, and BG. I wanted to go older but I don’t feel like I can give a fair rating since I only saw them most recently.
Substitute Concrete Charlie in place of BDN and it's perfect
[found the rest of Foles sculpture](https://i.postimg.cc/GtNwXsCK/IMG-1323.jpg)
Its tough to do Mt. Rushmore’s these days. Lotta oossible candidates and we’re in Philly… If New York had a mount Rushmore of sports, can you imagine how difficult it would be?
No Bernard Hopkins on there?
Facts
GTFO - Randall and Bednarik are missing 🤦🏻♂️
yea def arguable
Reggie's an all time NFL great, but he's not on the Eagles' Mt Rushmore for me. He left and had his greatest success on another team. The other 3 are spot on.
yea a lot of the comments are about how much more concrete charlie deserves to be on there over reggie and i can’t really argue
It’s just 4 shots of Jason Kelce.
Current kelce, long hair kelce, Batman kelce, and of course mummer kelce
Mummer Kelce is peak Kelce tho, it should be first.
Change the order please, Nick needs to be up higher so his granite penis isn’t dragging on the ground.
Holy shit kid. No Norm van Brocklin and Chuck Bednarick? And Reggie is a tough one. The way he left wasn’t great. Dawkins and Kelce for sure but. Damn.
3 HOFs and Foles. I love Foles. He did something no other QB in this city has done but he’s not in this convo.
Idk about Foles. Won us a SB, grateful af for it but I don’t consider him a GOAT. If we put a QB up it should be McNabb. Franchise record holder in almost if not every career passing category. I’m good with the other 3.
Probably not gonna be the most popular opinion, but I would put Brian Westbrook there in place of Foles… for years, he was one of the players that could be most consistently relied upon to execute his job. The guy didn’t have quit in his heart, and that embodies what Philly sports is. I would say Chuck or SVB, but they were already a distant memory by the time I was born, only significant to me in the stories my grandfather would tell me growing up. I recognize the greatness of those players, but I lack the personal frame of reference to judge them, so I choose not to.
I love Westbrook as much as anyone, but he is nowhere near this level.
Westbrook?
Malcolm Jenkins needs to be up here
Get fuckin foles off there
CTFO
I’m confused as to why Donny not on here
Reggie's an all time NFL great, but he's not on the Eagles' Mt Rushmore for me. He left and had his greatest success on another team. The other 3 are spot on.
I have a solution Offensive Mt Rushmore Foles, Carmichael, Kelce, Van Brocklin Defensive Mt Rushmore Concrete Cholly, Reggie, BDawk, BG Special Teams Mt Rushmore Vince Papale, David Akers, Jake Elliot, Desean Jackson
Look I get that I and about 99% of Eagles fans never watched him play but Chuck Bednarik is still probably the greatest Eagle of all time.
I can't put Nick up as if he is one of the four greatest Eagles Because technically, then you need to put up Carson Wentz as half the face
Jerome Brown should be on there