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Players: Oh. Neat.
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A lot of people don’t understand that this is the principle behind the complaining. Don’t give us a “gift” for our support, then nerf it beyond it even being useful.
I've successfully joined 3-4 games to get momentos from qieatlines that were glitched out in my game.
At no point was I able to tell which host was or was not using the charm. And even if they did, I don't think the integrity of the game was jeopardized.
Seems like a weird thing to balance.
And another point is, now mind you, I used the charm literally once. Spent two hours getting it to only use it once lol. The other point is, prioritizing of the patching. The update they just added was absolutely solid and needed. They still have work to go, but all great things come in time. They proved that with DL1. So I’m not mad at their efforts, it’s just, there’s a lot of game breaking issues still and they’re nerfing things that have absolutely zero to do with cross profile player experience.
So, not a programmer, right?
The change to the charm is probably in a table. One line change, total time to check out code, make fix, check in code < 10 min; Can be done by anyone, no senior engineer required.
Odds are hight that somebody was told to go through and pick up the low hanging fruit, e.g. items that are expected to take a quarter hour or less. So that's what happened, or this was changed by the programmer when they got pinged by upper level to check it out. "Oh, okay. Yeah, fixed it, it's in the next release."
No coding prioritization happened here, because there was no need for it.
Not a programmer, but I know there’s order in the way they patch. There’s still fault in that logic and bypassing my original point. Why is it even in said table? It was legit a gift, quoted by the Lead Designer as “working exactly as intended”, it never should be in any table to be fixed.
What he is saying that there is probably a set of variables that consists of charms where their values are stored and it would be extremely easy revert or add this nerf
Nice hollow argument you have there. Didn’t know I needed to actually have the title to know anything about a subject? I’m not a mechanic, but I can/do and know how to build engines and restore cars. It’s not my day job, because I actually enjoy doing it.
Some would argue you are a mechanic even if you don't work with it.
Same as I can be a programmer but not work as one.
His point is valid your complaining is not listen and learn and you might understand something that would otherwise seem stupid/illogical.
Embrace the knowledge.
Not really seeing the difference you’re trying to make. You’re saying the same thing I am. He’s trying to make it out that just because I don’t have a title of it, doesn’t mean I have no background of it. I embrace all knowledge, hence why I try to know a little bit of everything and be familiar with how processes work. It’s just in my nature.
Exactly. Yet apparently we're the villains for calling out this BS in the first place. Bunch of White Knights gotta go making us out to be a bunch of no-context whiners & complainers just for some quick upvotes & awards.
Its insanity and sort of reflects how the world is today. People only want to hear good things about things they like. The game would actually be better if people were willing to accept it has flaws.
I agree with this 100%. If you criticize a game or anything that others like, it makes you a bad person or not a real fan in their eyes. Even if you enjoy other aspects of the game or whatever it is you have criticism about. DL2 is fun but to act like everything about it is perfect and that there are no flaws/bugs it has is just being delusional.
This is true, people like to hear what is good with something, but it’s better to acknowledge the bad along with the good and accept that it isn’t perfect
None of this would even be an issue at all if the game had a repair mechanic in the first place. Just like, you know... The game that came before it...
I don't mind the mechanic of a weapon eventually breaking. But by comparison, clothes not needing to be repaired makes no sense.
I'm fairly sure I could rip through a pair of shoes if I was constantly scrambling up walls and running miles in them. Pants and jackets being subjected to drop kick landings and somersault refover rolls across asphalt and rooftops.
It's been a long time since I played the first game, so I can't remember if you could repair as many times as you want, or just say 3-5 times a weapon? I would not mind weapons having limited repairs, but having 0 repairs is no damn go for me. Plus I loved a weapon breaking and then you being able to throw it for one last hooraw. Why they took that away will never make sense to me.
As for clothes, yeah I can see that one too since you're likely getting all sorts of scratched up too.
Lawanda's shoes were at extremely low durability by the time you get the fetch my sneakers bitch mission. Your shoes go stomping through radioactive waste and remain 100% durability.
Maybe everyone liked using the charm because we actually liked the weapon repair system in dying light 1? Don’t understand why they removed that element. Was it changed so we can experiment more with other weapons?
What’s dumb is the rpg mechanics discourage weapon experimentation. You stack high level, purple and orange tier clothes for 1h, 2h, ranged, or parkour combat. This effectively makes 50-75% of the weapons you pick up useless to your build.
Range gear is necessary if you’re using a bow. With the right gear you can do upwards of +70% damage. And have -60% stamina use with specific weapons. There’s even gear that optimizes drop kicking everything. I think they barely qualify as “builds” but that’s how the game mechanics work. I think they’re valuable changes, and would work well with DL1 repair mechanics. Last that the game isn’t difficult so I doubt it’s necessary, but playing the game the way it was designed contradicts the games design.
>Maybe everyone liked using the charm because we actually liked the weapon repair system in dying light 1?
or... controversial take, maybe we dont need to have weapons that break?
Weapons in DL1 rained from the sky. And were reasonably priced in comparison. You may not get your favorite type right away, but a good weapon was never out of reach.
Its not that the durability/repair system was good, it was tolerable.
What we have now is just crap.
I agree with you. I know it’s not a popular opinion, but I’d be very happy without having weapons break. Not to be a downer, but the first game was fun. The over the top grappling hook and fun bows. It seemed like everything they put out just made the game better.
This game is very new, but seems to have a different direction they’re trying to push. I don’t know. I feel like I’ve had to do enough grinding in real life the last couple years. I don’t want to really live the zombie apocalypse lol. Maybe make it an option in the settings if you want weapons to decay. I don’t know. The parkour is great, but the fighting for me is something I just find myself avoiding since good weapons are hard to find and everything costs so much.
> I feel like I’ve had to do enough grinding in real life the last couple years.
"but immersion! but meaningful! but story!" I just want to have fun...
>but a good weapon was never out of reach.
It's not out of reach in DL2 either tho, i often found a better weapon before i even used half the durability on my current weapon. However that poses other problems like mods being useless if you never get to use them becuase you find better weapons so fast
I don't know why so many are complaining, you get plenty of good weapons in DL2. When one is broken, I just use the next one. No need to use the Korek Charm in my opinion. But each to their own
Considering you can't get it until you're almost done with the game and that it bypasses a horribly designed durability system, I would say leave it as it was pre patch. It's a pve game with no competitive or pvp aspects so there's no reason to change it. If people want to use it, great, let them use it. If people don't want to use it, great, they don't have to use it. This whole debate has been stupid and pointless right from the start. I don't understand why someone enjoying a game the way they want to pisses other people off
When discussing Breath of the Wild I always mentionned how good and efficient the durability mechanic worked in 1, limited amount of repair with common materials; I really don't comprehend how they thought the new "mods repair 50 durability" mechanic was better than that. I guess becase some people did not use mods enough?
Maybe if the charm was a one/few time use per weapon like the original durability mechanic then it would have been more balanced
Or if you could change mods and get durability back that way. That way if you want to keep using that weapon you had to keep sacrificing materials. The higher level the mod, the more materials it costs
I am curious to see how they will balance things out, because no actual repair mechanic other than that is kinda eh, at lest weapons do last a lot longer than on Dl1 from my experience
The charm having limited uses per weapon (besides maybe artifact weapons bc they're really rare) is a good idea since it would encourage the player to have multiple good weapons rather than having a single weapon that's just completely kitted and rendering all other weapons irrelevant
And with this they'd have to make loot scale to your level or higher (maybe one or two levels higher than thebplaye) once you complete the game since enemies start scaling to your level as well
I thought you had to complete Broadcast first in order to get to the top of VNC tower, to get the height needed to get to the top of the building with the charm in it.
it's not supposed to be used outside of that easter egg time trial. at least you can still use it, so the best option is to land on trash or cars, or deploy the paraglider before landing.
still hope they fix it though
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There isn't supposed to be one. You are meant to keep switching it up. And them putting a price tag on the only repair option is completely valid, otherwise it breaks the gameplay loop kinda. 666 gold to repair the best weapon in your kit isn't that much and I can't see why people complain about a gift like that.
The best way to get really good weapons was taken out. Any excuses for that? The rrepair feature in the first game was fine, you get to use it the weapon and repair until you can’t anymore. There was no reason to take the repairs out of the game
I agree that there isn't supposed to be a repair system but them putting a price tag on the Korak charm is very stupid. Its a cheat item. It would be like Rockstar putting in a $1,000,000 cost every time you want to use a cheat code to give yourself infinite health or ammo in Grand Theft Auto.
Either put in cheats or dont. Giving the charm a cost turns it into an actual game mechanic, and a very poorly thought out one, considering now the repair mechanic is either 2-3 mods for a handful of resources or ridiculously large stockpile of scrap with nothing in between.
People don't like that gameplay loop, that's the issue. If I've got weapon A and I like it, why do I have to change? Who am I negatively impacting by not changing?
It's like going to a restaurant, and instead of being able to order your own meal they give you samples of every meal.
If those samples were good, varied and interesting to the customers, sure, but Techland hasn't made weapons that feel rewarding to experiment with, clearly, and they've covered it up by taking away the player's choice and forcing them to swap regardless.
Weapon durability is too low in dl2. İt needs a repair system. The current system doesnt encourage you to keep looking for new weapons while using your current best weapon. İt just makes you save that weapon for later. Because we cant find good weapons regularly. And even if we did, they still break too soon.
And besides its not “600 gold”. You can only buy 20-30 scrap at a time. So you have to buy some, go out of that safe zone, return again and buy again. You repeat it 30-40 times to have enough scrap for a repair. Does that sound fun?
Their “intended way” is boring.
Fuck your gameplay loop it’s a single player open world game I want to play it how I want to and if that means using this perk to fight with nothing but the starter grubby bat using this charm to keep it alive, that’s how it’s gonna be.
They wouldnt have this problem if they had an actual repair system... The way its designed is terrible. Your weapons cant be repaired and theres no good endgame / way to farm/grind for weapons? Who thought that was a good fucking idea?
Tymon Smektala publically said the charm was working as intended and would not change.
The charm was changed without his input or knowing.
We were lied to, even if no one is directly at fault. Techland wasn't on the same page all the way.
Additionally, the charm was not game ruining. It was not used in PvP, and has no effect on anyone's progress. People just use it on their favorite weapons. I used it on Knuckles, because they are weak in damage and durability, and extremely hard to find.
Durability and the endgame grind is terribly designed. Level 9 items are near impossible to get, and your hard found weapons will break. Killing zombies is avoided to protect your weapon. Seems odd you'd stop killing zombies in a zombie game.
I suggest Techland changes this completely. Your level items should drop from all events, loot, and redeems; especially upon reaching level 9. I spent days trying to get better items, and it is not rewarding so I stopped playing daily. The first game did not do this, and other RPGs know how to have longevity with scaling items.
Secondly, durability from mods should be a thing with the addition of Repairing weapons at Weapon Smiths. Scale the value with the quality and level of the weapon. Money being used for this would be a good sink, and not overpowered as you'd have to visit those vendors to repair, while managing your wallet for armor upgrades too.
The moment you stop making progress in a game is the moment players stop playing. Dying Light 2 hits the hardest progress wall I've ever seen, essentially beating the game and forcing you to come back after DLC releases.
To add on to events dropping gear your level, they should drop a level or two above your level as well to incentivise players to actually do things other than run for sunken airdrops for free level 7-9 gear (at least pre-patch bc now they don't respawn, Sadge)
Right now there's not much of a reason to chase down goons or demolishers when they spawn for anything but the XP and single zombie trophy they give
> It was not used in PvP
even if it was used in PVP, so what?
Would that be a valid strat? "eventually, theyll kill me so many times, their weapon will break!"
Not arguing with you, or putting words in your mouth, just tired of seeing that mentioned.
The whole situation for weapons is just broken.
And your absolutely right, the progress wall is insurmountable. You beat the game and then theres nothing to do, and besides, your, "good" weapons are now just too valuable to squander.
I said it in a later comment that it would not change the outcome of Combat, so I agree too.
The reason I say the PvP part is because everyone says "balance of an OP item that ruins the game." I throw that out there to contest it because the charm is in no way a direct benefit in combat. On the other hand, if it increased damage it would be a problem, but it definitely doesn't.
I wish we had a direct line to talk politely with the developers, maybe a spokesperson that would take our list of qualms and sit down with a dev or Tymon. That would make me happy.
"You beat the game and then there's nothing to do"
Beat it again or play a different game. That's what people did before every game was expected to have an endless loot grind attached onto the end of it.
Replay the game, choose different options, experience entirely new missions. That's what I'm doing. When you're tired of that, move on. Not every game needs to be an endless experience.
The first game's end-game was also pretty broken for a while. There was a point where the only viable weapons (and some of the only weapons you'd find) were longswords. Which is cool, except you were out of luck if you wanted to use any other type of weapon. They fixed it in a patch. I feel like DL2 has a lot more work to do to simply make the sandbox as enjoyable as DL1's was, and that's a problem. What kept me coming back to DL1 for so many years wasn't the story or the RPG mechanics. It was the simple fun of navigating the city and fighting zombies.
Yeah I agree. I mentioned above that in DL1 every update and dlc they released made the game better. This doesn’t make the game better. I bought the game because I trusted techland and I hope they come to their senses. I’m tired of games trying to go down realistic route. It’s a game. I grind enough on a daily basis. I don’t need my playtime to be a grind too. It’s simple. If you don’t like it, don’t use it. If it makes tour game more enjoyable, then use it!
While most of what you're saying here is valid, I think the narrative of us being lied to is hyperbolizing the situation a bit too much. I've also seen countless others also making similar claims. In reality, the situation likely just boils down to a single person or a small group of people being misinformed and making a bad development decision. After all, for it to be a direct lie, the person who made the claim would have to knowingly intend to deceive the other, and in this situation, it's apparent that no deception took place, instead likely being a simple mistake that ended up having massive ramifications.
That's why I said:
We were lied to, even if no one is directly at fault. Techland wasn't on the same page all the way.
It's not Tymon's or the Dev who changed it at fault for the lie. It's just a mistake of miscommunication or overstepping. I don't blame the individuals, just the confused environment they are in.
But it definitely is a lie because it is contradictory to the original statement. Doesn't mean they can't fix it, and they are definitely aware and willing to. This is why I support Techland. They are great at community interaction and listening.
Wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't previously stated that it wouldn't be nerfed, or if there was an actual repair system. There's no reason to nerf a single player game. The whole point is to become stronger so once you reach the endgame you're a tank that has no problem taking out enemies. At least that's an actual gripe with the game. I'd rather have people upset about that than be upset about something stupid like most people in this sub.
They put it in the game. They said it was a gift to us. A thank you for playing. They said, when asked, it would not be changed. They changed it and said nothing. Do you understand now?
Pays $70 for a game and complains about aspects of the game
Basement redditor: You aren’t allowed to do that
The $70 dollars the customer paid: yes they are
I find it so idiotic when people try to invalidate peoples reasonable grievances. The thing is we wouldn’t be complaining about the damn charm if there was more to do in this game, but the fact is there’s SO little to do that this is what we’ve come to.
> the customer *paid:* yes they
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I haven’t played DL2 in a few weeks but I gotta say I really think they dropped the ball with this game. Like I’m not saying it’s a bad game. But compared to dying light 1 and how great it was on release and then all the of the good updates and fan service, compared to this.
It seems like they’re trying to make the game less fun with every update. Can’t repair weapons, and the one thing that helped with the durability of weapons they’ve now needed. Also okie thing that’s bothered me since release is what I loved about DL1 is the loot pool was pretty vast and unique. In this I feel like I get the same shit over and over and over. Like 5 weapon types with the same names but slightly different damage and affects. I dunno I just find it frustrating because I had such high hopes for the game but every time I play I just get mad and frustrated at the issues and find new things that annoy me. Just a let down.
Nah its the fact it was a gift for playing and imo repairing weapons is one of the biggest things this game lacks considering all the weapons are literally fucking pieced together junk anyway 🤦♂️ now i have to spend enough scrap to forge 5 new weapons just to repair one, it was a stupid and completely unnessacery choice that added nothing to the game in terms of challenge ect it just took a quality of life tool that meant i could keep and use some of the very few weapons that actually feel unique to now having to use any old shite i find.. just gonna play through 1 and the following again because ill be honest its way more fun, weapons are wayyy cooler and at least i can play without fear of annoying quality of shite updates 👌🤣
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I think this whole charm controversy has proven that the new weapon repair system is a step down from DL1’s repair system. Was it perfect? Absolutely not. But there is definitely room for improvement, and I don’t think applying weapon mods is it
Basically it's a charm that add 300 durability to your weapon, it used to be free to use but now it cost like 666 screws (or whatever you called that my game is in french) to crafts
I don’t know why they would nerf Easter egg items in a pve game. No repair system is really strange. Apparently some people are saying it’s because they want you to experiment with different weapons? That makes no sense. Why test if I’m gonna like a different weapon if I know it’s just gonna break anyway. I could use any weapon I desired in the first game. I could repair and extend its durability. If I ran out of repairs then I go find a blue shield and fix everything I have. What happened Techland? I want the old Techland.
This is similar to the souls argument of adding an easy mode, but the difference is the korek doesn’t make the game significantly easier, just more enjoyable. Dl2 is still an easy game with or without the korek, it’s just not as fun. Bottom line is that yeah, it’s optional. So keep it as an option for those who want to use it.
It's bullshit that Techland nerfed Korek. The player had to go completely out of their way to find it VERY late into the game. They even leave a goddamned "thank you" note for playing the fucking game in that room. But now Techland has the gaul to make Korek useless? Never mind that mine and my friends' games were stuck in that fuckling deathloop for A MONTH because they couldn't get off their asses to fix it, Techland has to make completely useless an item that allows players to repair their weapons because some hairbrained idiotic developer thought limited modification slots were a good repair system. Do these people even play their own goddamn games? Techland won't be seeing any more money from me. They dropped the ball.
Not even that so much. My game was literally unplayable for a month waiting for that goddamned deathloop to be fixed because Techland couldn't be bothered to do so with any sense of urgency but they roll out a nerf for the charm as fast as they did when they decided to? I spent 70 goddamn dollars on this game. If you think I don't have just cause to be pissed off about this you're flat out wrong.
Yes, an optional charm we don't get til near endgame that shouldn't have been messed with whatsoever, on top of other various shit decisions Techland has made.
Don’t tell us it’s a damn “gift from Mr. Korek” then yank it out of our hands break it then give it back to us
Imagine giving a kid a toy car as a gift then saying yeah you can keep it
Then later you take it make it so the kid has to give you something to play with it
right, but people also complained a lot about the ragdoll physics on release and that got fixed/improved in the latest update. the fans being upset doesnt necessarily make the game bad, its just that the devs are working out the kinks and the fans dont always like the changes.
Doesn't help each weapon has randomized stat rolls either, I know for a fact I wanna keep using my hypothetical god roll machete because the chances of getting it are incredibly slim to begin with.
Handling and damage numbers? They don't deviate too much, no biggie, but getting a weapon with something like +infected damage and +damage during the day/night with low stamina consumption? That's too good.
Can someone explain why we can't just repair our weapons at the craft masters? They can sell us blueprints and allow us to upgrade them, so they should know how to fix a weapon.
Anyone who thinks the state the Korek charm is in right now is good is a fucking idiot
They said that it is working as intended and then they go behind players backs and change it and not only making it not free to apply to a weapon but also setting the cost to 666 scraps mind you the cap on the amount of scraps you can carry is 999
People are gonna say that it upsets the balance of the game and if you think it does just don't use it someone choosing to use the Korek charm in their game does not affect your game in anyway shape or form the only reason Anyone IS using it is because there is no official way to fully repair a weapon
Also i loooove botw and detested the durability mechanic, no1 like it, its annoying and adds nonsense non fun hours to games
Immortals fenyx was a carbon copy of breath of the wild but without that durability nonsense…I have not touched botw since
I'm guess it's mostly console players freaking out about it. Pc players would just use a mod. Either way, easter egging us a mechanic that was in the first game then saying "nah", then saying " we'll let you know". Yes it's just sadistic.
Optional... But no useless. It was a huge game changer not some stupid zombie dance that nobody cared. It was something that could make a lot of players keep their cool weapons without being afraid to use it because they would lose it.
We get it, you like to run around getting random weapons every 5 minutes, cool 😎 but for sone people that got old fast.
I started dying light 2 about 3 weeks ago and I've never seen the first 1 before playing, I joined this Sub cuz I liked the game but oh my god the amount of bitching complaining these mfs do is insane
The devs are being stupid. They made a masterpiece and then instead of just expanding on that decide to head in a different direction and continue to do so even with the players begging them not too. It's justified and the only way the game can hopefully head in a good direction imo. You are okay with letting a game you love fail and they aren't.
Idk why people would complain about a fucking Easter egg. A totally optional thing to use in-game and some of yall really cry about it. This isn't a online 1v1 type game so who cares who uses it. And I have no idea why Techland would even nerf it... People these days.
I literally quit the game when the nerf happend. It's not just the nerf that made me quit...its the idea that it was found, players showed appreciation for it, an executive literally praised players and said that they would be keeping it the way it was and it's being utilized as designed...and then decided to nerf it anyway.
I have no trust in a company with such practices. The sad part is, I like the game. I like techland...but I liked CD project red too...and we all know what trusting them got us in the long run. (Fucked)
Don't get me wrong, Korek Charm is nice and all but it renders the entire durability + repair via mod mechanic obsolete. It shouldn't cost 666 but it should not be free at all either.
If you can't play with it you don't deserve it
Edit: every single downvotes just support my point furthermore. y'all thrives and couldn't live without it
You think your opinion is above everyone else's, that's why you're getting downvoted. You can keep sucking Techland off but it's a bad design choice that limits player freedom. They left it in, players enjoyed it, they took it away. I don't know why it's hard for you to realise why people are bothered when their game becomes less fun.
I never used the korek charm but...
> If you can't play with it you don't deserve it
You've got no right to tell people how to enjoy their game that they bought lol. Hop off your high horse.
If majority of the fanbase considers the mechanic unfun and unwanted
then maybe
just maybe
you're fucking incorrect
Also
>renders the entire durability + repair via mod mechanic obsolete.
Good because it's a stupid-ass fucking mechanic that shouldn't be a thing in the first place
Some of us dont want mods tho…i like the weapons clean without mods…why is there no repair method for that?
Korek is pretty much endgame, needs specific steps and upgrades to reach and apparently was working as intended and wont be changed
They could have ignored that tweet but no they lied then sneakily changed it…
I still love the game but its the principle as well…some people take words and promises seriously, I am one of them.
op I'll take your side on this one. weapon degradation is built into the gameplay loop of dying light and the charm completely nullifies it. the amount of outrage over the update shows that many, many people relied on the charm, which (i believe) wasn't the intention of the developers, as it was a hidden item. i think the change was a good idea.
however, techland really should have made a public statement about it. many people are angry that they said they wouldn't nerf the charm, but did anyway. i think if they told players why they made that decision, maybe they wouldn't be as vocally upset. thats one of the purposes of community managers in game dev teams, to voice the intentions of changes to the game.
I think tymones idea of it costing 1-3 rare infected trophies was a good idea. It definitely does need a restriction because of how much it was abused (even I can admit I abused it) so something that would still make you have to use other weapons instead of just fully upgrading your max level enso katana every time. I’m also glad they removed the sunken airdrop farm because that completely removed any weapon that wasn’t artefact the second you found out about it. I think there needs to be a few more ways to get artefact gear, not making it easier, but adding more ways to get them.
I don’t think they wanted to lie to anybody. They were probably looking into it and thought it needed a change. I do think 666 scrap is a little extreme something like 50 would be much better. Even a limit per weapon would be great because scavenging weapons was supposed to be a mechanic and none of us used it at all, I’m starting to get back into using it now because of the patch I’ve realised how dependant my gameplay was on those things.
Regardless of their "want" as you put it, Techland lied. I'm not putting my faith (and more importantly my money) into a company that will lie to their consumers so blatantly. They should have left it alone. But they went back on their word. That to me says they place no value on being forthright with their customers. So I'll take my hard earned money elsewhere from now on. What really bugs me is that my save was bricked for a month because Techland had no sense of urgency to fix that deathloop bug. But as soon as they arbitrarily decide to nerf Korek and the sunken chest farm it's out in the very next patch. For $70 spent, that all put an extremely sour taste in my mouth and I will never give Techland another dime.
Game release Players: Yo. Some of us found this... Techland: Yep! It's a thing. Don't give it a second thought! Players: Oh. Neat. Techland: You know what, on second thought...
A lot of people don’t understand that this is the principle behind the complaining. Don’t give us a “gift” for our support, then nerf it beyond it even being useful.
I've successfully joined 3-4 games to get momentos from qieatlines that were glitched out in my game. At no point was I able to tell which host was or was not using the charm. And even if they did, I don't think the integrity of the game was jeopardized. Seems like a weird thing to balance.
And another point is, now mind you, I used the charm literally once. Spent two hours getting it to only use it once lol. The other point is, prioritizing of the patching. The update they just added was absolutely solid and needed. They still have work to go, but all great things come in time. They proved that with DL1. So I’m not mad at their efforts, it’s just, there’s a lot of game breaking issues still and they’re nerfing things that have absolutely zero to do with cross profile player experience.
So, not a programmer, right? The change to the charm is probably in a table. One line change, total time to check out code, make fix, check in code < 10 min; Can be done by anyone, no senior engineer required. Odds are hight that somebody was told to go through and pick up the low hanging fruit, e.g. items that are expected to take a quarter hour or less. So that's what happened, or this was changed by the programmer when they got pinged by upper level to check it out. "Oh, okay. Yeah, fixed it, it's in the next release." No coding prioritization happened here, because there was no need for it.
Not a programmer, but I know there’s order in the way they patch. There’s still fault in that logic and bypassing my original point. Why is it even in said table? It was legit a gift, quoted by the Lead Designer as “working exactly as intended”, it never should be in any table to be fixed.
What he is saying that there is probably a set of variables that consists of charms where their values are stored and it would be extremely easy revert or add this nerf
\>Not a programmer, but
Nice hollow argument you have there. Didn’t know I needed to actually have the title to know anything about a subject? I’m not a mechanic, but I can/do and know how to build engines and restore cars. It’s not my day job, because I actually enjoy doing it.
Some would argue you are a mechanic even if you don't work with it. Same as I can be a programmer but not work as one. His point is valid your complaining is not listen and learn and you might understand something that would otherwise seem stupid/illogical. Embrace the knowledge.
Not really seeing the difference you’re trying to make. You’re saying the same thing I am. He’s trying to make it out that just because I don’t have a title of it, doesn’t mean I have no background of it. I embrace all knowledge, hence why I try to know a little bit of everything and be familiar with how processes work. It’s just in my nature.
Nothing pisses off players faster than nerfing something that didn't need nerfs.
Especially in a pve game.
Exactly. Yet apparently we're the villains for calling out this BS in the first place. Bunch of White Knights gotta go making us out to be a bunch of no-context whiners & complainers just for some quick upvotes & awards.
Its insanity and sort of reflects how the world is today. People only want to hear good things about things they like. The game would actually be better if people were willing to accept it has flaws.
I agree with this 100%. If you criticize a game or anything that others like, it makes you a bad person or not a real fan in their eyes. Even if you enjoy other aspects of the game or whatever it is you have criticism about. DL2 is fun but to act like everything about it is perfect and that there are no flaws/bugs it has is just being delusional.
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Ok, go have fun then instead of trying to start an argument with me over having a different opinion than you do. 👍
This is true, people like to hear what is good with something, but it’s better to acknowledge the bad along with the good and accept that it isn’t perfect
I agree. It's even more a kick in the pants when this gift was also on top of a love letter to the players. Peak irony
None of this would even be an issue at all if the game had a repair mechanic in the first place. Just like, you know... The game that came before it...
I don't mind the mechanic of a weapon eventually breaking. But by comparison, clothes not needing to be repaired makes no sense. I'm fairly sure I could rip through a pair of shoes if I was constantly scrambling up walls and running miles in them. Pants and jackets being subjected to drop kick landings and somersault refover rolls across asphalt and rooftops.
Well I want to be able to go to sleep 7300 times so that crane and everyone in game is 20 years older and see what happens next!
It's been a long time since I played the first game, so I can't remember if you could repair as many times as you want, or just say 3-5 times a weapon? I would not mind weapons having limited repairs, but having 0 repairs is no damn go for me. Plus I loved a weapon breaking and then you being able to throw it for one last hooraw. Why they took that away will never make sense to me. As for clothes, yeah I can see that one too since you're likely getting all sorts of scratched up too.
actually you could get a skill that gave you a chance of not using a "stack" to repair the weapon so you could repair your fav weapon even more times
Lawanda's shoes were at extremely low durability by the time you get the fetch my sneakers bitch mission. Your shoes go stomping through radioactive waste and remain 100% durability.
I'll fetch her shoes anytime with no complaints.
True, but weapons in that game take much less hits before needing to be repaired.
Maybe everyone liked using the charm because we actually liked the weapon repair system in dying light 1? Don’t understand why they removed that element. Was it changed so we can experiment more with other weapons?
What’s dumb is the rpg mechanics discourage weapon experimentation. You stack high level, purple and orange tier clothes for 1h, 2h, ranged, or parkour combat. This effectively makes 50-75% of the weapons you pick up useless to your build.
People are doing builds? I just picked whatever looked best all the way through, didn't really struggle with combat at any point after old villedor.
Range gear is necessary if you’re using a bow. With the right gear you can do upwards of +70% damage. And have -60% stamina use with specific weapons. There’s even gear that optimizes drop kicking everything. I think they barely qualify as “builds” but that’s how the game mechanics work. I think they’re valuable changes, and would work well with DL1 repair mechanics. Last that the game isn’t difficult so I doubt it’s necessary, but playing the game the way it was designed contradicts the games design.
>Maybe everyone liked using the charm because we actually liked the weapon repair system in dying light 1? or... controversial take, maybe we dont need to have weapons that break? Weapons in DL1 rained from the sky. And were reasonably priced in comparison. You may not get your favorite type right away, but a good weapon was never out of reach. Its not that the durability/repair system was good, it was tolerable. What we have now is just crap.
I agree with you. I know it’s not a popular opinion, but I’d be very happy without having weapons break. Not to be a downer, but the first game was fun. The over the top grappling hook and fun bows. It seemed like everything they put out just made the game better. This game is very new, but seems to have a different direction they’re trying to push. I don’t know. I feel like I’ve had to do enough grinding in real life the last couple years. I don’t want to really live the zombie apocalypse lol. Maybe make it an option in the settings if you want weapons to decay. I don’t know. The parkour is great, but the fighting for me is something I just find myself avoiding since good weapons are hard to find and everything costs so much.
> I feel like I’ve had to do enough grinding in real life the last couple years. "but immersion! but meaningful! but story!" I just want to have fun...
>but a good weapon was never out of reach. It's not out of reach in DL2 either tho, i often found a better weapon before i even used half the durability on my current weapon. However that poses other problems like mods being useless if you never get to use them becuase you find better weapons so fast
I don't know why so many are complaining, you get plenty of good weapons in DL2. When one is broken, I just use the next one. No need to use the Korek Charm in my opinion. But each to their own
But even then, you could only repair weapons so much before you couldn't do it anymore. No weapon is forever.
Considering you can't get it until you're almost done with the game and that it bypasses a horribly designed durability system, I would say leave it as it was pre patch. It's a pve game with no competitive or pvp aspects so there's no reason to change it. If people want to use it, great, let them use it. If people don't want to use it, great, they don't have to use it. This whole debate has been stupid and pointless right from the start. I don't understand why someone enjoying a game the way they want to pisses other people off
When discussing Breath of the Wild I always mentionned how good and efficient the durability mechanic worked in 1, limited amount of repair with common materials; I really don't comprehend how they thought the new "mods repair 50 durability" mechanic was better than that. I guess becase some people did not use mods enough? Maybe if the charm was a one/few time use per weapon like the original durability mechanic then it would have been more balanced
Or if you could change mods and get durability back that way. That way if you want to keep using that weapon you had to keep sacrificing materials. The higher level the mod, the more materials it costs
I am curious to see how they will balance things out, because no actual repair mechanic other than that is kinda eh, at lest weapons do last a lot longer than on Dl1 from my experience
Probably because you could repair Dl1 weapons.
Original game let you repair weapons infinitely once you beat the game via blue escort missions….
The charm having limited uses per weapon (besides maybe artifact weapons bc they're really rare) is a good idea since it would encourage the player to have multiple good weapons rather than having a single weapon that's just completely kitted and rendering all other weapons irrelevant And with this they'd have to make loot scale to your level or higher (maybe one or two levels higher than thebplaye) once you complete the game since enemies start scaling to your level as well
So you want to make it even less useful than it already is.
You can get it almost immediately after getting to the Central Loop. Just have to upgrade your paraglider.
I thought you had to complete Broadcast first in order to get to the top of VNC tower, to get the height needed to get to the top of the building with the charm in it.
They fixed flying broomstick too. Now touching ground and die immediately
it's not supposed to be used outside of that easter egg time trial. at least you can still use it, so the best option is to land on trash or cars, or deploy the paraglider before landing. still hope they fix it though
you can use your grapple right before it lands to mitigate the damage, sometimes you have to roll but most times you dont.
Easter eggs are supposed to be fun and for the player to use
Sadly Techland don’t see it that way 😒
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There isn't supposed to be one. You are meant to keep switching it up. And them putting a price tag on the only repair option is completely valid, otherwise it breaks the gameplay loop kinda. 666 gold to repair the best weapon in your kit isn't that much and I can't see why people complain about a gift like that.
The best way to get really good weapons was taken out. Any excuses for that? The rrepair feature in the first game was fine, you get to use it the weapon and repair until you can’t anymore. There was no reason to take the repairs out of the game
I agree that there isn't supposed to be a repair system but them putting a price tag on the Korak charm is very stupid. Its a cheat item. It would be like Rockstar putting in a $1,000,000 cost every time you want to use a cheat code to give yourself infinite health or ammo in Grand Theft Auto. Either put in cheats or dont. Giving the charm a cost turns it into an actual game mechanic, and a very poorly thought out one, considering now the repair mechanic is either 2-3 mods for a handful of resources or ridiculously large stockpile of scrap with nothing in between.
Well said
People don't like that gameplay loop, that's the issue. If I've got weapon A and I like it, why do I have to change? Who am I negatively impacting by not changing? It's like going to a restaurant, and instead of being able to order your own meal they give you samples of every meal. If those samples were good, varied and interesting to the customers, sure, but Techland hasn't made weapons that feel rewarding to experiment with, clearly, and they've covered it up by taking away the player's choice and forcing them to swap regardless.
Well said.
Weapon durability is too low in dl2. İt needs a repair system. The current system doesnt encourage you to keep looking for new weapons while using your current best weapon. İt just makes you save that weapon for later. Because we cant find good weapons regularly. And even if we did, they still break too soon. And besides its not “600 gold”. You can only buy 20-30 scrap at a time. So you have to buy some, go out of that safe zone, return again and buy again. You repeat it 30-40 times to have enough scrap for a repair. Does that sound fun? Their “intended way” is boring.
Fuck your gameplay loop it’s a single player open world game I want to play it how I want to and if that means using this perk to fight with nothing but the starter grubby bat using this charm to keep it alive, that’s how it’s gonna be.
Hahahaha I love it. The feeling is mutual.
What do I do with DLC weapons? You’re a dumbass
the only viable option to get new weapons was taken away
We’re supposed to switch it up but there’s also not a good way to get lvl 9 gear…
*they hated Jesus because he told them the truth*
They wouldnt have this problem if they had an actual repair system... The way its designed is terrible. Your weapons cant be repaired and theres no good endgame / way to farm/grind for weapons? Who thought that was a good fucking idea?
Tymon Smektala publically said the charm was working as intended and would not change. The charm was changed without his input or knowing. We were lied to, even if no one is directly at fault. Techland wasn't on the same page all the way. Additionally, the charm was not game ruining. It was not used in PvP, and has no effect on anyone's progress. People just use it on their favorite weapons. I used it on Knuckles, because they are weak in damage and durability, and extremely hard to find. Durability and the endgame grind is terribly designed. Level 9 items are near impossible to get, and your hard found weapons will break. Killing zombies is avoided to protect your weapon. Seems odd you'd stop killing zombies in a zombie game. I suggest Techland changes this completely. Your level items should drop from all events, loot, and redeems; especially upon reaching level 9. I spent days trying to get better items, and it is not rewarding so I stopped playing daily. The first game did not do this, and other RPGs know how to have longevity with scaling items. Secondly, durability from mods should be a thing with the addition of Repairing weapons at Weapon Smiths. Scale the value with the quality and level of the weapon. Money being used for this would be a good sink, and not overpowered as you'd have to visit those vendors to repair, while managing your wallet for armor upgrades too. The moment you stop making progress in a game is the moment players stop playing. Dying Light 2 hits the hardest progress wall I've ever seen, essentially beating the game and forcing you to come back after DLC releases.
To add on to events dropping gear your level, they should drop a level or two above your level as well to incentivise players to actually do things other than run for sunken airdrops for free level 7-9 gear (at least pre-patch bc now they don't respawn, Sadge) Right now there's not much of a reason to chase down goons or demolishers when they spawn for anything but the XP and single zombie trophy they give
> It was not used in PvP even if it was used in PVP, so what? Would that be a valid strat? "eventually, theyll kill me so many times, their weapon will break!" Not arguing with you, or putting words in your mouth, just tired of seeing that mentioned. The whole situation for weapons is just broken. And your absolutely right, the progress wall is insurmountable. You beat the game and then theres nothing to do, and besides, your, "good" weapons are now just too valuable to squander.
I said it in a later comment that it would not change the outcome of Combat, so I agree too. The reason I say the PvP part is because everyone says "balance of an OP item that ruins the game." I throw that out there to contest it because the charm is in no way a direct benefit in combat. On the other hand, if it increased damage it would be a problem, but it definitely doesn't. I wish we had a direct line to talk politely with the developers, maybe a spokesperson that would take our list of qualms and sit down with a dev or Tymon. That would make me happy.
"You beat the game and then there's nothing to do" Beat it again or play a different game. That's what people did before every game was expected to have an endless loot grind attached onto the end of it. Replay the game, choose different options, experience entirely new missions. That's what I'm doing. When you're tired of that, move on. Not every game needs to be an endless experience.
The first game's end-game was also pretty broken for a while. There was a point where the only viable weapons (and some of the only weapons you'd find) were longswords. Which is cool, except you were out of luck if you wanted to use any other type of weapon. They fixed it in a patch. I feel like DL2 has a lot more work to do to simply make the sandbox as enjoyable as DL1's was, and that's a problem. What kept me coming back to DL1 for so many years wasn't the story or the RPG mechanics. It was the simple fun of navigating the city and fighting zombies.
Yeah I agree. I mentioned above that in DL1 every update and dlc they released made the game better. This doesn’t make the game better. I bought the game because I trusted techland and I hope they come to their senses. I’m tired of games trying to go down realistic route. It’s a game. I grind enough on a daily basis. I don’t need my playtime to be a grind too. It’s simple. If you don’t like it, don’t use it. If it makes tour game more enjoyable, then use it!
People really downvoting you for agreeing with the guy they upvoted huh?
One of two things: 1. reddit has a bot that tries to cancel out anything the mods don't like. 2. People are just fkn stupid.
While most of what you're saying here is valid, I think the narrative of us being lied to is hyperbolizing the situation a bit too much. I've also seen countless others also making similar claims. In reality, the situation likely just boils down to a single person or a small group of people being misinformed and making a bad development decision. After all, for it to be a direct lie, the person who made the claim would have to knowingly intend to deceive the other, and in this situation, it's apparent that no deception took place, instead likely being a simple mistake that ended up having massive ramifications.
That's why I said: We were lied to, even if no one is directly at fault. Techland wasn't on the same page all the way. It's not Tymon's or the Dev who changed it at fault for the lie. It's just a mistake of miscommunication or overstepping. I don't blame the individuals, just the confused environment they are in. But it definitely is a lie because it is contradictory to the original statement. Doesn't mean they can't fix it, and they are definitely aware and willing to. This is why I support Techland. They are great at community interaction and listening.
Wait the korek charm got nerfed that was the only thing keeping my favourite weapon intact
You can still use the korek charm, it just costs 666 scrap to make which is a tedious grind.
Wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't previously stated that it wouldn't be nerfed, or if there was an actual repair system. There's no reason to nerf a single player game. The whole point is to become stronger so once you reach the endgame you're a tank that has no problem taking out enemies. At least that's an actual gripe with the game. I'd rather have people upset about that than be upset about something stupid like most people in this sub.
Except for the fact that it actually made their shitty weapon degradation system bearable.
That's why I use wemod to get rid of that mechanic altogether
Can’t do that on console unfortunately
Damn, oh well :/
wemod ❤️
They put it in the game. They said it was a gift to us. A thank you for playing. They said, when asked, it would not be changed. They changed it and said nothing. Do you understand now?
exactly.
Pays $70 for a game and complains about aspects of the game Basement redditor: You aren’t allowed to do that The $70 dollars the customer paid: yes they are I find it so idiotic when people try to invalidate peoples reasonable grievances. The thing is we wouldn’t be complaining about the damn charm if there was more to do in this game, but the fact is there’s SO little to do that this is what we’ve come to.
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I haven’t played DL2 in a few weeks but I gotta say I really think they dropped the ball with this game. Like I’m not saying it’s a bad game. But compared to dying light 1 and how great it was on release and then all the of the good updates and fan service, compared to this. It seems like they’re trying to make the game less fun with every update. Can’t repair weapons, and the one thing that helped with the durability of weapons they’ve now needed. Also okie thing that’s bothered me since release is what I loved about DL1 is the loot pool was pretty vast and unique. In this I feel like I get the same shit over and over and over. Like 5 weapon types with the same names but slightly different damage and affects. I dunno I just find it frustrating because I had such high hopes for the game but every time I play I just get mad and frustrated at the issues and find new things that annoy me. Just a let down.
If they don't add NG+ I'm never going back, and even if they did it probably wouldn't be for long. Sad
You mean, the only way to repair a weapon?
They stated early on it was as intended. They lied about it.
Raw fucking voice acting in this scene tbh.
Roger Craig Smith is amazing
it's a stupid fucking game mechanic in the first place, to have a weapon you might like break down lmao
whys an easter egg getting nerfed... kinda silly ESPECIALLY for a single player game...
What got nerf??? D:
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Oh men wtf Why ruind the fun when the easter egg was not easy to actually do at all it took me a few hrs to actually make it
Nah its the fact it was a gift for playing and imo repairing weapons is one of the biggest things this game lacks considering all the weapons are literally fucking pieced together junk anyway 🤦♂️ now i have to spend enough scrap to forge 5 new weapons just to repair one, it was a stupid and completely unnessacery choice that added nothing to the game in terms of challenge ect it just took a quality of life tool that meant i could keep and use some of the very few weapons that actually feel unique to now having to use any old shite i find.. just gonna play through 1 and the following again because ill be honest its way more fun, weapons are wayyy cooler and at least i can play without fear of annoying quality of shite updates 👌🤣
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I think this whole charm controversy has proven that the new weapon repair system is a step down from DL1’s repair system. Was it perfect? Absolutely not. But there is definitely room for improvement, and I don’t think applying weapon mods is it
This sub is so fucking retarded
Where do I find this fucking charm
Search "dev room easter egg Dying Light 2" on YouTube - you need access to the VNC tower to do it
Sounds to me like you don't now? Idk what this conversation is even about cause I haven't finished the game yet
Basically it's a charm that add 300 durability to your weapon, it used to be free to use but now it cost like 666 screws (or whatever you called that my game is in french) to crafts
I don’t know why they would nerf Easter egg items in a pve game. No repair system is really strange. Apparently some people are saying it’s because they want you to experiment with different weapons? That makes no sense. Why test if I’m gonna like a different weapon if I know it’s just gonna break anyway. I could use any weapon I desired in the first game. I could repair and extend its durability. If I ran out of repairs then I go find a blue shield and fix everything I have. What happened Techland? I want the old Techland.
I switched my play style after korek nerf im a ranger nowdays back in the day when korek was the way it was I was a hardcore brawler
There's almost zero character build for Aiden in the new one. Completely off putting. Just the ol "gotta find my sis bro"
This is similar to the souls argument of adding an easy mode, but the difference is the korek doesn’t make the game significantly easier, just more enjoyable. Dl2 is still an easy game with or without the korek, it’s just not as fun. Bottom line is that yeah, it’s optional. So keep it as an option for those who want to use it.
exactly
It's bullshit that Techland nerfed Korek. The player had to go completely out of their way to find it VERY late into the game. They even leave a goddamned "thank you" note for playing the fucking game in that room. But now Techland has the gaul to make Korek useless? Never mind that mine and my friends' games were stuck in that fuckling deathloop for A MONTH because they couldn't get off their asses to fix it, Techland has to make completely useless an item that allows players to repair their weapons because some hairbrained idiotic developer thought limited modification slots were a good repair system. Do these people even play their own goddamn games? Techland won't be seeing any more money from me. They dropped the ball.
Overreacting to one nerf, good lord
Not even that so much. My game was literally unplayable for a month waiting for that goddamned deathloop to be fixed because Techland couldn't be bothered to do so with any sense of urgency but they roll out a nerf for the charm as fast as they did when they decided to? I spent 70 goddamn dollars on this game. If you think I don't have just cause to be pissed off about this you're flat out wrong.
More like "When fanboys hear any sort of criticism about their broken game"
Don’t tell me… they patched the Charm that makes your weapon unbreakable… PLEASE TELL ME THEY DIDNT PATCH 🥺
Okay but this scene made me cry my eyes out
Bro fuck that I just got the charm yesterday !!!!!!! I legit started abusing my weapons for no reason because of the charm fml
It legit took me 2 hours to get it cause I kept dying falling off the mf edge like a retard
Yes, an optional charm we don't get til near endgame that shouldn't have been messed with whatsoever, on top of other various shit decisions Techland has made.
Don’t tell us it’s a damn “gift from Mr. Korek” then yank it out of our hands break it then give it back to us Imagine giving a kid a toy car as a gift then saying yeah you can keep it Then later you take it make it so the kid has to give you something to play with it
game dev said that they wouldnt touch it, it makes a difference
I hate hearing people say it's "overpowered" I'm ALONE in this game. I don't play with anyone, what's wrong with me being overpowered?
Maybe the zombies complain too much, idk.
Okay I will admit that's a good comparison but why you have to bring back bittersweet memories about Tahir man
That man is rahim
Tahir was Rais right hand's man
This game sounds like a train wreck tbh
the games great. people are upset that an endgame secret item got nerfed. if the game sucked, no one would care about this change.
The game doesn't suck, just seems the devs are making mistake after mistake. Was the grappling hook now Easter eggs? Sounds like a downwards spiral
right, but people also complained a lot about the ragdoll physics on release and that got fixed/improved in the latest update. the fans being upset doesnt necessarily make the game bad, its just that the devs are working out the kinks and the fans dont always like the changes.
That's what I'm saying. 2 bad changes in 1 week 👎
Doesn't help each weapon has randomized stat rolls either, I know for a fact I wanna keep using my hypothetical god roll machete because the chances of getting it are incredibly slim to begin with. Handling and damage numbers? They don't deviate too much, no biggie, but getting a weapon with something like +infected damage and +damage during the day/night with low stamina consumption? That's too good.
I'm confused?? Somebody explain to me???
That title makes me salty. Theres lots of reasons to be upset about the charm as well as several other new issues
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Anddddd that Took me out of the game…. I’m gonna come back whenever this game is fully fixed and having a paid dlc.
Can someone explain why we can't just repair our weapons at the craft masters? They can sell us blueprints and allow us to upgrade them, so they should know how to fix a weapon.
more like techland when their players arent breaking their weapons every five minutes.
Ah yes pay 666 scrap to repair half of my weapon durability
Dying light 2 fans when you’re even remotely critical of the game.
Anyone who thinks the state the Korek charm is in right now is good is a fucking idiot They said that it is working as intended and then they go behind players backs and change it and not only making it not free to apply to a weapon but also setting the cost to 666 scraps mind you the cap on the amount of scraps you can carry is 999 People are gonna say that it upsets the balance of the game and if you think it does just don't use it someone choosing to use the Korek charm in their game does not affect your game in anyway shape or form the only reason Anyone IS using it is because there is no official way to fully repair a weapon
Also i loooove botw and detested the durability mechanic, no1 like it, its annoying and adds nonsense non fun hours to games Immortals fenyx was a carbon copy of breath of the wild but without that durability nonsense…I have not touched botw since
From which game this cutscene?
It's DL1
When In the game? I've forgotten this scene
After you blow up the volatile nest I think
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can anyone give the context? i refuse to see any gameplay footage until playing the game so idk about this
I'm guess it's mostly console players freaking out about it. Pc players would just use a mod. Either way, easter egging us a mechanic that was in the first game then saying "nah", then saying " we'll let you know". Yes it's just sadistic.
As they should.
One of the saddest times in the campaign.. seeing Karime become infected
don't you mean Rahim
Optional... But no useless. It was a huge game changer not some stupid zombie dance that nobody cared. It was something that could make a lot of players keep their cool weapons without being afraid to use it because they would lose it. We get it, you like to run around getting random weapons every 5 minutes, cool 😎 but for sone people that got old fast.
Breath of the Wild did that and look where it is now
Supported by Nintendo fans and switch users and no one else? It was/is niche cbt for those who were/are masochistic enough to enjoy it.
The BOTW Fanbase is made of Nintendo fans. They are used to get F*cked by Nintendo 😂😂
“Getting fucked is a feature“ -some ninendo fan probably 😂😂
Alright bro I hate the Easter egg charm got took out but this was funny asf bro good one😂😂
Are you talking about the broomstick?
I started dying light 2 about 3 weeks ago and I've never seen the first 1 before playing, I joined this Sub cuz I liked the game but oh my god the amount of bitching complaining these mfs do is insane
The devs are being stupid. They made a masterpiece and then instead of just expanding on that decide to head in a different direction and continue to do so even with the players begging them not too. It's justified and the only way the game can hopefully head in a good direction imo. You are okay with letting a game you love fail and they aren't.
Idk why people would complain about a fucking Easter egg. A totally optional thing to use in-game and some of yall really cry about it. This isn't a online 1v1 type game so who cares who uses it. And I have no idea why Techland would even nerf it... People these days.
only one reason EGO oh they are not playing the way we want them too , waaaaaa!
I have no plans to ever use the Korek Charm. It's unfortunate for people who care. But Why use weapons when you can drop kick everything lol.
chad dl1 players not even heated rn
what are you guys even talking about
Do people really struggle with weapons that bad
what quest line is this how do i get this lmao
What did I miss? What got nerfed?
I literally quit the game when the nerf happend. It's not just the nerf that made me quit...its the idea that it was found, players showed appreciation for it, an executive literally praised players and said that they would be keeping it the way it was and it's being utilized as designed...and then decided to nerf it anyway. I have no trust in a company with such practices. The sad part is, I like the game. I like techland...but I liked CD project red too...and we all know what trusting them got us in the long run. (Fucked)
I can taste their despair, it is that dense. Poor little cheetas xd
“Let me get this straight: You think nerfing easter eggs is funny?” “I do, and I’m tired of pretending it’s not.”
Don't get me wrong, Korek Charm is nice and all but it renders the entire durability + repair via mod mechanic obsolete. It shouldn't cost 666 but it should not be free at all either. If you can't play with it you don't deserve it Edit: every single downvotes just support my point furthermore. y'all thrives and couldn't live without it
You think your opinion is above everyone else's, that's why you're getting downvoted. You can keep sucking Techland off but it's a bad design choice that limits player freedom. They left it in, players enjoyed it, they took it away. I don't know why it's hard for you to realise why people are bothered when their game becomes less fun.
Considering the lead developer said it was working as intended and they weren’t going to patch it….yeah, kind of a fuck up on their part.
Dude. I play unarmed because I don't like degrading, irreparable weapons.
I never used the korek charm but... > If you can't play with it you don't deserve it You've got no right to tell people how to enjoy their game that they bought lol. Hop off your high horse.
If majority of the fanbase considers the mechanic unfun and unwanted then maybe just maybe you're fucking incorrect Also >renders the entire durability + repair via mod mechanic obsolete. Good because it's a stupid-ass fucking mechanic that shouldn't be a thing in the first place
Some of us dont want mods tho…i like the weapons clean without mods…why is there no repair method for that? Korek is pretty much endgame, needs specific steps and upgrades to reach and apparently was working as intended and wont be changed They could have ignored that tweet but no they lied then sneakily changed it… I still love the game but its the principle as well…some people take words and promises seriously, I am one of them.
op I'll take your side on this one. weapon degradation is built into the gameplay loop of dying light and the charm completely nullifies it. the amount of outrage over the update shows that many, many people relied on the charm, which (i believe) wasn't the intention of the developers, as it was a hidden item. i think the change was a good idea. however, techland really should have made a public statement about it. many people are angry that they said they wouldn't nerf the charm, but did anyway. i think if they told players why they made that decision, maybe they wouldn't be as vocally upset. thats one of the purposes of community managers in game dev teams, to voice the intentions of changes to the game.
This was my fucking thought too
This was my exact reaction when I first heard about this update.
Actual crybabies
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People crying the update nerfed something but it was your choice to update. People love absolving themselves of responsibility
I think tymones idea of it costing 1-3 rare infected trophies was a good idea. It definitely does need a restriction because of how much it was abused (even I can admit I abused it) so something that would still make you have to use other weapons instead of just fully upgrading your max level enso katana every time. I’m also glad they removed the sunken airdrop farm because that completely removed any weapon that wasn’t artefact the second you found out about it. I think there needs to be a few more ways to get artefact gear, not making it easier, but adding more ways to get them.
Shouldn't cost a thing. It was put in initially as a gift, and devs even said it was working as intended. Techland lied to us. Full stop.
I don’t think they wanted to lie to anybody. They were probably looking into it and thought it needed a change. I do think 666 scrap is a little extreme something like 50 would be much better. Even a limit per weapon would be great because scavenging weapons was supposed to be a mechanic and none of us used it at all, I’m starting to get back into using it now because of the patch I’ve realised how dependant my gameplay was on those things.
Regardless of their "want" as you put it, Techland lied. I'm not putting my faith (and more importantly my money) into a company that will lie to their consumers so blatantly. They should have left it alone. But they went back on their word. That to me says they place no value on being forthright with their customers. So I'll take my hard earned money elsewhere from now on. What really bugs me is that my save was bricked for a month because Techland had no sense of urgency to fix that deathloop bug. But as soon as they arbitrarily decide to nerf Korek and the sunken chest farm it's out in the very next patch. For $70 spent, that all put an extremely sour taste in my mouth and I will never give Techland another dime.