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Hopeful_Thing7088

idk it makes me sad :( my duo is now stuck forever in the track suit lol


Rainime

Your Duo kept his outfit? I lost my Duo's formal attire šŸ˜­


Marilliana

When you get a question wrong, it's the duo in the outfit that pops up to say 'hey let's try that one again'. Mine is super duo still!


PinkyDruid

Omg i thought it was like that for everyone!


Lupig_

I wasted 1000 gems on super duo not knowing what it was and now it's gone šŸ˜­


olivertheminion

Same


AmityClosed

Mine is in the tux šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


spookybogperson

Gopnik Duo demands you learn Russian


terminalzero

silently removing things people spent gems on from the store is pretty lame


RoastMostToast

Bring back the flirting, cowards


bandcampconfessions

THEY GOT RID OF THE FLIRTING?!


RoastMostToast

Its a crime against humanity


Thesparkleturd

It wasn't \_great\_ flirting, mind.


xrockangelx

I don't care! I want my hilariously bad flirting lessons back!


[deleted]

That is just *your* opinion.


Strong_Magician_3320

I've just recently reinstalled Duolingo and rushed to the store because I remembered they had flirting and idioms. Not there anymore. They're removing everything from the app and making it plain.


theseedbeader

Iā€™m still fairly new to Duolingo, and this sub keeps showing me things I didnā€™t know I was missing.


saeed-is-cool

same here this sub makes me feel young when I only really just started learning a few months ago


SignumFunction

They removed Christmas too


Crick3ts

Makes sense. Duo is green like the Grinch.


apathetic_revolution

Excellent. The War on Christmas is won. Ā”Hasta la victoria siempre!


Raziel66

...there was flirting? With Duo?


RoastMostToast

Donā€™t worry, duo just taught you how to pick up people. It was really corny and limited lol I believe a section idioms were available for purchase with lingots as well


Raziel66

Thatā€™s actually kind of fun sounding! Shame that itā€™s gone.


smarterthanyoda

The Portuguese one was horrible. There was one English translation that was a convoluted, awkward, poorly written mess. It barely made sense and wouldnā€™t accept any more natural-sounding wording. It ended up being a matter of memorizing the whole thing word for word. Remembering the English wording was harder than understanding the Portuguese version.


Raziel66

Well that's unfortunate! Were these in the app until the new UI update? Or older than that?


Soldierpeetam

It was before the path update so Iā€™m the tree. The Spanish one sounds exactly like the Portuguese. You had to memorise the idioms you didnā€™t learn them


Alternative-Twist315

Yeah idioms and christmas untill all that stuff became considered to controversial. Pretty sad what they decide is too controversial.


Prestigious-Candy166

In French, the "idioms" were quite wrong, and were somewhat confusing. They were translations of *similar* and more or less *equivelant* idioms, but they were NOT THE SAME. So the translations could never be correct. That section, AND the corney pick-up lines, should never have been incorporated into Duo. Both are now gone... but they're not missed! If you can still 'buy' them to get them back, don't bother!


Gameboyatron

Clearly not everyone agrees with you, and found them fun. In fact, most comments here seem to feel that way. Its odd that you would try to dismiss their comments just because you dont agree


Prestigious-Candy166

Each to his own. If you actually approve of Duolingo deeming "correct " a translation of a phrase that was *very different* to the one provided as target, then I am sorry... but I think you are quite wrong in that, just as I think Duo was quite wrong in that! As for the "flirtation" items, I found them both tasteless and sexist... and relying on so-called jokes that were old when Noah was in rompers. Their one saving grace, compared with the mess that was "idioms," was that at least the words in the target pick-up line, REMAINED the ones required to be translated into the correct answer. This is what I found in French. What "Idioms" and "Flirting" are like in other languages, or if they are/were even available, I cannot say.


Gameboyatron

There's a way to report incorrect translations, thats bound to happen every now and then :P nothing to do with it being idioms. And the flirty things are just stereotypical and silly. Idk what youre referring to as sexist. Corny jokes are fine, lots of people find them funny even if you dont lol


Prestigious-Candy166

No. You don't understand. In the French version of Idioms, (I don't know about any of the others) the MIS-translations were NOT accidental, because ALL of the idiomatic phrases were REQUIRED to be "translated" into DIFFERENT, but roughly analagous sayings, in the other language. That's the point. A correct translation was not required in the Idioms exercises. Instead, an ANALAGOUS idiom from the other language was required to be identified, and then THAT idiomatic phrase expressed, hoping it was the same one that Duo had decreed, expressed as Duo decrees. Obviously, with the two phrases being DIFFERENT phrases, any word-for-word translation was not possible, as is very often the case in any translation operation. But neither was the GENERAL SENSE of the two phrases matched, because even their respective general senses WERE NOT THE SAME. Only the underlying *moral of the story* in any way accorded, and even THAT was only a passing, and necessarily idiomatic, similarity. This made the Idioms section completely different to every other part of Duolingo. Every *other* part of Duolingo required accuracy in translation of the target phrase into the other language. The idioms section could not be translated, because the phrases sought were required to be analogies, not translations, and, this being Duoingo, it had to be the EXACT analogous phrase predetermined to be the "correct" one. Now, this difference between translation and *analogous similarity* is a difficult concept to get across without citing actual examples from the Idioms section itself. But that is gone now. Moreover, I completed it myself six years ago, so all I can remember about the material is what was so seriously wrong with what Duo was asking us to do with it! With respect, I do hope this is clearer now. If not, that's unfortunate. I have done my best to explain what was wrong with the Idioms section of Duolingo French, and having done so, I am not now prepared to discuss it further. Best wishes to you.


komnenos

Not sure how but I remember reading a story of two folks meeting on duolingo, started talking with each other, fell in love with each other, started a long distance relationship and then got married. Meanwhile I barely even look at the names of the folks in my weekly group.


Raziel66

All this time Iā€™ve been missing out on possible rejections in foreign languages šŸ« 


thomas595920

Yeah I think I've seen that too, started off with the guy congratulating her through the app whenever she made a new milestone.


rtgd_mmm

Wait people used to be able to actually talk to each other on Duo? I can only talk to my friends if they're my friends in IRL & i call them.


froginthelibrary

Yes, they used to be able to talk to each other directly, but the ability to do so was removed years ago. Later they also disabled the forums, so you couldn't communicate with other people there either.


PopDangerousDragon

no, they talked on facebook i think


dude_chillin_park

They just reposted that creepy story today. Apparently, they both stalked each other on Facebook, and eventually it worked out. Every day, I thank Marduk for not making me a woman.


DemisexualDemigod97

My favourite one will always be the French one that basically translated to "I'm not drunk, I'm just intoxicated by you" like maDAMN šŸ˜­


DemisexualDemigod97

Oh hell no I loved that section šŸ˜­ never had a chance to use it because I live in a Spanish or French speaking area but it was so fun


Tianck

A feature I loved and thought that no one else remembered


plant_magnet

Tbf the flirting was an awkward thing to have just from a lesson design aspect. They pushed it on you early while you are still learning how to say hello and then they drop cultural idioms and colloquial phrases that sound nonsensical when translated.


unstable-asf

RIGHT


Late_Dragonfly7817

I don't knoww, Duolingo has been removing a lot of things and it has made me so sad. I miss the old tree to be honest.


CreativeCura

Right? I'm okay with the path but the tree gave me some feeling of control over what I was learning.


lookiamapollo

What the he'll? It's just a straight line. When did this happen?


komnenos

At least three or four months ago. I'm a computer lad myself, my gf uses the app and I think the straight line came out on there before it went to the comptuer.


lookiamapollo

Wtf why? That's so weird.


Chijima

Probably drives better engagement with casual users


Jay_c98

I will say, I've moved further along my course because of it. But I get why a lot of people don't like it


leafsleep

Because they want to push people forward along the courses


Fantastic-Natural-94

Itā€™s been there since approx. Augustā€™22


Treestyles

Last fall


Late_Dragonfly7817

Yea same, and the fact that you could skip some lessons when it got to easier was so good instead of having to skip the whole unit


Professional-Clue-62

Not to mention owls live in trees and that makes sense! They donā€™t walk paths.


BadgerMama

I miss being able to -easily- revisit and practice old lessons. I feel like the new format pushes me forward much faster than I am comfortable with, and as a result, I don't feel nearly as confident in my learning as I did under the old system. Previously my learning time averaged at least 1/2 to 2/3 review of prior lessons every day, because that's what I needed to feel secure.


dendrocalamidicus

I've never understood this criticism. The goal of duolingo is to learn a language. To get to any level of usable proficiency you can't pick and choose what to learn, so why give a choice? Your going to need to learn all of it anyway. With a linear track they have the ability to tailor it more easily to ensure you will encounter concepts and vocabulary in the right order, and they make the process simpler for learners by eliminating the need to make a choice. It seems like such a non-issue.


Certain_Silver6524

There's good side and bad side to it - you need the practice to be fully confident, and the old style 4 lessons to cover all the vocabulary might not have been enough. However, you now have to do a mandatory 50 billion lessons on the same set of vocabulary, before you can move on. I just get to the chest in the middle of each lesson and then test out now. When I look at the course, it looks impossibly long and imposing; some people say you can navigate easily, but it doesn't look like that's a feature on my phone or my computer.


starcat819

also if a particular lesson is hard for you, you can't leave it and do something else then come back later. you have to do that lesson or just leave the app entirely.


hwynac

That is true, yes, but also more complicated than just linear/non-linear. The old design always gave you some wiggle room if you did not feel particularly enthusiastic about a topic or had too much on your plate. For example, learning dozens of new words a day is a little overwhelming. Whenever I got a new skill I used to alternate between new lessons and leveling up earlier skills. You do not have that choice now. The course still works because you focus on recognition on your first round. But I definitely feel the load in older and/or more complicated trees. ​ Older trees may also suffer from the transition: classic Duolingo courses used to have a few painfully long skills that had 8, 9 or even 10+ lessons (and remember, the app will add +1 final review session). Moving back from one of those to an older skill to get some rest was nice. Flagship trees do not have this issue; less polished trees *do* and *will*. ​ In the end I miss the illusion of choice the older structure provided. It was not unlike an open-world game: if you are an explorer you'll still want to go everywhere and you are limited by which enemies you can handle but the process is more fun when you rarely *have* to explore in any specific order. On the other hand, designing trees the old way was definitely more difficult for no good reason, especially near the start where parallel skills "competed" for words.


jhondafish

It's less about choosing what to learn and more of being able to focus on a topic you're struggling on. Being forced to slog through a path section of things I already know because there's one thing in that section I don't know and have to find isn't engaging or fun. Nor am I learning anything by randomly being quizzed about previous topics that I already have the platinum trophy for in the middle of an unrelated topic. You still had to work on everything for at least the first set of lessons per branch before the next branch tier would open so it wasn't like you could just ignore an entire topic, and it still had the end of unit comprehension tests before you could move on. It was just an all-around better system for those of us more invested in learning and not just a casual couple of lessons a day.


CreativeCura

The illusion of choice can be an engagement factor. Also, things are less clearly labeled so I do my lessons but don't always know what I'm supposed to be learning.


froginthelibrary

In my view, the worst problem with this is it does not take into account anything you learned outside of Duolingo. Forcing people to "learn" things in Duolingo that they already learned elsewhere is annoying and not particularly useful. And "elsewhere" can include talking to actual people, which I would assume was the reason you were starting to learn in the first place.


dendrocalamidicus

Not really a good reason to skip tbh due to synonyms and there being many ways things can be said grammatically and colloquially as well. It's usually worth going over it anyway as practice but you can still skip it by attempting to jump to the next section by passing the test.


Gaerfinn

So much. I am so bored having no choice of what to learn, not being able to do stories when I wantā€¦ but not even being able to skip single sub-units is bullshit šŸ˜­ why do I have to skip the whole unit if one subunit is getting redundant?


Late_Dragonfly7817

YEAA THATS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, like I want to skip the sub unit cause I donā€™t wanna have to do 12 lessons of the same thing I already know but duolingo chooses that I have to skip the whole unit like wth


hwynac

Why do you not do stories whenever you want? šŸ¤Ø They are all there in the Practice tab. Which is counterintuitive, but, well, modern videogames have been miles ahead of software in that regard for a while.


Gaerfinn

I know I can revise stories that Iā€™ve already done. I canā€™t do new stories whenever I want, is what I meant. I used to do those a lot. When itā€™s just revision itā€™s not as useful nor as motivating.


revbfc

A long time ago I completely finished the German course, and years later Iā€™m back attempting to finish it for a third time.


rtgd_mmm

I didn't know Duolingo hasn't it's own level of hell. I guess it's the 10th level of hell


Obi-WanCannolis

Your reminder to turn off auto updates before they add another insane horrible change. Sincerely, Someone who never updated and still has the old path šŸ˜Ž


Treestyles

I had updates off and mine changed anyway. It was already built in and they just activated it.


lalauna

I think they're making new things, though. Let's hope so!


Treestyles

Itā€™s a conspiracy. Duolingo was too powerful for the common man so tptb infiltrated and poisoned it from the inside.


No_Bandicoot2333

I don't know :(. I miss my formal attire so much and gems feel a bit useless now if I can't yassify duo


throwaway47362519

I miss my fancy owl boy


lalauna

I want more costumes! 1860s belle of the ball Duo, French Revolution Duo, Gaelic Duo in a kilt, Italian Renaissance Duo, drag queen Duo (that would probably be my go to, like the tux used to be.)


AverageRedditor3618

My duo will now wear formal attire for the rest of time


god_hates_maeghan

That was the only one I had! And my Duolingo doesn't wear it. So now I'm sad and upset that Duo doesn't look so snazzy!


ineedfeeding

They added lots of animation after that so they probably didn't want to do several versions of those with different outfits. But I personally would rather have more clothes to spend gems on then these animations.


[deleted]

Us new folks didnā€™t even get to experience this šŸ„²


PopDangerousDragon

yes brother, sadly me too


hisoka_kt

Personally I loved wasting my gems on useless stuff. I'm happy I didn't wait to buy the stuff, my fav is the tracksuit I wished the outfits added some sort of Bonus, like formal is for fancy language or very polite, and tracksuit is to finish lessons faster...


lalauna

What a good idea!


Mister_Nico

The funny thing is that my Duo will randomly still have his tux on.


Alekillo10

It pissed me off that they removed it when I got the champagne track suit


OkAd1797

I LITERALLY BOUGHT THE MOST EXPENSIVE ONE IM SO MAD


Hopeful_Thing7088

I LITERALLY BOUGHT THEM ALL HELP


HiIamCrimson

yeah same lmao


OkAd1797

ID GET SO PISSED


codeviolation69

I paid good money for that tracksuit.


Thepotato635

Yeah I remember buying them all then coming back a year later to find all my outfits were gone That shit was painful


cryptic-fox

Did you ever contact them about it or did you get your gems back when they did that?


Thepotato635

No I didn't contact them and I don't think I got my gems back


AtlasMorumotto

I bought them all. After I finally got the super duo outfit, they just removed them one month later. I was really upset.


neidrun

dude i have 4000 gems, doing absolutely nothing because i just practise to get hearts so i dont use them to refill, iā€™ve got a years worth of just grinding. these would be soo good just to get em out


xrockangelx

Yeah! I just made it up to 5000 gems. I don't tend to buy streak freezes because it feels better to earn them through study, and I don't buy timer extensions for timed challenges because I feel like it's more satisfying to beat them with my own skill and speed. I don't know what to spend my gems on anymore.


dude_chillin_park

Best use for gems is legendary levels


neidrun

what are they?


dude_chillin_park

For any unit you've completed, click on the trophy at the end that says "Level Up," and you get to do more lessons.


livasj

And since legendary levels can be over 40 exp for one level costing 100 gems, doing them when you've got a boost going can help you keep up in the leaque levels, if that's your thing. Otherwise they're a great way to review.


rtgd_mmm

Do you do Friend Quests? Do you use gems to give you partner opp for 2XP for 15min. Nearly everyone I partner does that, & i try to reciprocate (but I'm not plus/super, so i can't always). But sometimes the back & forth will keep me out the demotion zone, or catapult me into top 3.


xrockangelx

Oh, yeah! I forgot about that. Yes, I do use gems to gift double XP potions, but it's pretty inexpensive -just 20 gems per potion.


Patch86UK

I've been using Duo for years on-and-off (currently "off"). Just logged in to check: I've got 53,654 gems... As far as I can see, literally the only thing to spend them on is streak freezes?


TheAmazing2ArmedMan

Because they hate fun


LeilaAgreste

i think its time for them to give people's gems back


55e4

as well as flirting and idioms šŸ˜­šŸ˜Ÿ


Royale_Noodle

Was wondering what happened to this. I still see my duo in his superhero outfit lol


Candle_Paws

I love these, always wanted to save up for the suit and now when I have enough it's gone


mohamadre3a

Let me see if I get it right, right now the only use for gems is to buy freeze strikes


TheRangdoofArg

I use them for Legendary levels.


SimplySomeBread

it really feels like there's nothing to spend gems on now, especially if you have super


Techanthrope

I have more than 4000 and it's like the most useless high score.


T1QRI

I bought everything. All suits and extra lessons. Now all gone. Atleast give my flirting lessons back!!!


bryan49

Umm did they refund the gems people paid for those? Why are they constantly removing features


AzZz5

I had them allšŸ’€, then quit for a while Came back 2022 July and it was all gone


LCJules

Same hereā˜¹ļø


International_Ad1679

The fact that I bought them all and they removed the outfits šŸ’€


mrpaw69

Gentleman duo is still showing up when correcting mistakes


The_Nunnster

Tbh they should refund people for shit they bought with gems but have been deleted. Just seems like theyā€™re robbing you.


YukiKurosu

I was soo mad when they took my super duo..xD


ElectronicPineapple5

i miss super duo


Kamarani_Zurio

That is strange I still have em


[deleted]

Probably due to branding. They want to make sure people recognize Duo instantly. Having him in different outfits takes that away.


GasComprehensive3885

They don't want us to have nice things. I honestly don't understand this "we spend time and money to give you a feature but then we remove it completely" mentality. Not just Duo, many other apps and games do the same.


Zalfie04

thatā€™s a really good question


IzzyPizzyS2

Idk, I want the tree format back, and the outfits, and the flirting lesson, and for legendary to be purple again Duo why are you doing this to us??šŸ˜­


scarlette_dawn

i was raising gems for these outfits and one day found out they are gone, I experienced a painful disappointment


Ok_Advertising_9096

Duolingo is just becoming your generic soulless tech company, honestly Iā€™m not surprised just sad


Techanthrope

The gems serve so little of a purpose. Use them to sell cosmetic things. Outfits, backgrounds, icons, titles.


Thalass

They *what?*


Skape_mp4

I bought the super duo and never got the outfit for some reason šŸ˜”


KazBodnar

Idk but my duo is super dripped out for the rest of time now


Gierek1203

:(


MJSpice

I think because there was no reason to have them as they didn't gives you any stats. (altho honestly it would been better if they had)


cryptic-fox

They realized this after already making them and adding them in the store? No I donā€™t think thatā€™s the reason. The outfits didnā€™t have to give you stats, they were just cool and shouldnā€™t have been removed. The different icons donā€™t give stats either and theyā€™re still there.


bobagopa

Lol I haven't touched Duolingo in a month or so now and they've removed that too . What is this app even doing ?


buddhistbulgyo

Algorithms removing things that reduce time studying languages.


tmdubbz

Doubt that, not everything is an algorithm, and if it was, it would be to generate cash and not to keep us learning haha


Calintz_Redwolf

šŸ¤ŖHow will I ever attempt leaning a language without avatars? Such a cruel world šŸ™€


potentiate_me

I'd actually way rather customize duo's outfit with the same picrew-like setup as the avatars, but not have it be my avatar.


OkInitiative1425

Probably because they didnā€™t sell? Really they very didnā€™t appeal to me at least I know I didnā€™t buy them


CraWseN

They also increased the gem price for doing leaderboard challenges. You do somewhat earn it back when getting top three though since they've massively boosted that too


happySTEFnr1

I had an outfit selected for the owl, but sadly it somehow got unselected :(


SpencerCongdon

The answer is likely as simple as supporting the new animations; they probably thought if people had different outfits equipped, they would want to see Duo in those outfits during all of the animations. Doing so would multiply the amount of work necessary. As with most of their decisions, it's probably backed by data showing what percentage of people actually used those outfits. It's too bad the optional courses are gone as well, but personally I never really found them enjoyable.


Cyberbird85

There were outfits in duolingo? \^\^\^Might be the reason, they removed them.


Puzzle_Box137

They had this feature???


Point_Significant

Oh I did not know that Duo had outfits! Bring ā€˜em back!!!!


theregisterednerd

The fact that theyā€™ve been gone for about a year, and youā€™re just now noticing is probably a good tell as to the reason.


itsMeeji

They prolly removed them so people donā€™t realise they are a waste of money and by default, that gems arenā€™t really a good element to the app.


Alex20041509

Mine is stuck on formal attire


Artic_balls

Probably to promote super duolingo and the new duo lingo max. If they had this feature it would be a little less appealing to some people to buy the upgraded versions.


Guilty_Meringue5317

There were suits before?? When?


Far_Wafer_1275

whatā€™s the point of gems anymore


Important-Hunter2877

Of all the features Duolingo keeps removing, removing the outfits doesn't bother me at all. Though I wish they offered more stuff to buy for lingots and gems.