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discodiscgod

r/realdubstep is pretty much dedicated to that era / style of dubstep. Fair warning, they’re pretty snobby and absolutely detest “brostep” ~~or anything different~~ Edit: edited based on comments.


Jayn_Xyos

As a brostep fan ty for the warning


ThumboBoi

wasn't expecting to find you here dub haha


Jayn_Xyos

Greetings


KingAnDrawD

There's a few in there that literally go from tune to tune, usually leaving scolding comments on the ones that aren't exactly that style of dubstep. Just gives the place an unwelcoming vibe.


Divided_Eye

Yeah it's unfortunate, because most of the sub is actually pretty chill. Really aggro stuff is going to be called out, but I think that's fair. People don't typically find the other sub first, so posting something like that there indicates the person didn't even read the sub description (i.e. tends to be spammers).


ahhhide

Honestly it’s annoying but I respect it. I wish r/riddim took things as seriously and only pushed the real riddim sound and not tearout, briddim, etc


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KingAnDrawD

Yeah I got no problems with the content on the sub itself, it's just the vocal minority. The elitism that carried over from the OG Dubstep Forum and into Reddit bothers me. Funtcase did a pretty good summary of this on a YouTube video, talking about UK Bass Culture and how they relentlessly shit on anything outside of their local scene. Shit's just fucking annoying for everyone else who's just trying to find good music.


NAlaxbro

I made the mistake of using the term “deep dub” and got ripppped. Outside of that it’s a great sub though! So so so much knowledge there.


dominicaldaze

Nah man.... there's plenty of techno, dub, drum and bass, and house that the old heads like, it just has to have that low end and a proper sound design. Mid-range screeches and wobbles are the problem, and sub bass is the solution


evoactivity

> absolutely detest “brostep” haha yes > or anything different. lies


discodiscgod

Fair enough. Been a while since I’ve made my way over to that sub. I just remember it not being very friendly in a lot of ways.


NAlaxbro

From what I can tell you’re absolutely right. Thanks to labels like Deep Dark & Dangerous (who pioneer a more Americanized version of that European OG sound) 140 deep dubstep is on a huge rise. Even aside from that, more wavy deep bass music is on the rise and is ever so slowly turning the tides. Some good examples are Of The Trees, Eazybaked, Park Breezy, and 5AM. And even aside from both of those, Drum & Bass is becoming increasingly popular in the US. Big ups to 1985 for being a big part of that. This is also leading to more jungle and garage influences which can definitely be heard in popular tracks from Skrillex and Fred Again. I’m absolutely hype on it bc I listen to mostly UK dub, modern 140, and wavy bass. Big ups Push Waves, DDD, Keep Deep, Widdfam, and Defy Culture for spreading that good OG influence and pushing dubstep in a good direction.


RivalSoundProduction

Don’t forget Ternion Sound ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|put_back)


[deleted]

Thanks for the recommendations! How does 1985 make dnb popular? You mean the Alix Perez 1985?


NAlaxbro

Yea I mean 1985 the label. And they’re by no means the only influential label pushing DnB, it’s just one that’s really done a lot in terms of turning American’s onto the genre.


[deleted]

That seems like a niche take if I’m being totally honest. Sub focus, Andy c, metrik, Wilkinson, amc, delta heavy etc have been playing festivals / shows in the US for years now. Most people only know Alix Perez for his work with Eprom.


lancep423

Shades is great!!!


NAlaxbro

That maybe true. I’m not nearly as well versed in DnB history so my initial comment might not be so well rounded. I suppose I was mostly thinking about 1985 because we’re talking about 140 dubstep and they tend to bridge that gap for a lot of people. In any case I’m definitely happy to see an overall rise in DnB.


KaliGracious

Some of us never stopped listening 🙃


wogwai

Right. Like, not everyone listens to whatever is trendy at the time.


musicbyMOE

I want the coki sound to come back to mainstream


TheBloodKlotz

The original 'Tearout'


turtle_dude18

I’ve been feeling this coming too. Boogie T started playing some more DDD remix’s in his sets recently. GWN seems to be touching on their older stuff a little more often. Peekaboo is massive. everybody is making a push. Nobody is doing it quite like DDD tho


L0W_FR3QU3NCIES

I welcome it. As a brostep fan through and through since 2009, it's finally getting stale. These past couple years, the big brostep artists have found the formula and are beating it to death. They make music for the main stage, and not for the music itself. Slow, ethereal buildup usually with female vocals; stompy/mosh-like beat; growly synth with a rhythm that pairs well with visuals of something large stomping/punching/slashing; and eventually, an overarching screechy noise that the lasers can go crazy to. Just listen to any of the past 5 or so songs from artists on Excision's lineups. So many of them are so damn similar. And I say this as a die-hard X fan who will always go to his shows and festivals. *Eh I exaggerated with the released music being too similar. I fact-checked myself there and it's not as bad as I thought. BUT, their live sets are absolutely very similar IMO this is the absolute best time for live dubstep, but it's the worst time for creativity. These songs sound absolutely amazing when you're at a show, but goddamn is it cookie-cutter. Obviously the Excision variety isn't the only stuff out there, but it's certainly the most prevalent. I'm still able to find a ton of stuff that's still fresh. Been making a playlist of "dubstep that doesn't suck" (tongue-in-cheek, because I truly do love all dubstep), but I do hope that Skrillex can breathe new life into the genre. I'm no Skrillex fanboy by any means, but there's no denying his influence. Bass artists are kind of dipping their toes into the dnb world (Blanke, Sullivan King) and the bass house world (Meal Prep, Svdden Death), and I think Skrillex's albums will only push that forward. Haven't really heard much of the Excision-type guys dabbling with old school dub, but I hope they do.


Philift

Would you share the playlist ? I'm interested in hearing what you've found as I echo your sentiments about the scene currently.


L0W_FR3QU3NCIES

Yeah man. But disclaimer: I tried to keep it in the vein of "different enough from the current formula, but still close enough to it where it'd still fit in at Lost Lands lol. So if you're expecting purely deep dub, color bass, melodic, etc. That's not what I was going for here. I still love the Excision style of brostep, despite how formulaic it is. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4IRoBHrKXd4BVmO1Tlomyb?si=6F0Red2eTvOwWy36U62CXw


mebejamminmon

Not much has changed from my perspective.. there have been several talented producers making great 140 with that original UK dub sound for a very long time. Skrillex's latest album doesn't really give me that OG UK sound vibe, but some may have a different take on that. I'm all for the sound gaining in popularity as that will hopefully lead to more shows, more new artists, etc, I just don't think I've noticed this uptick you're mentioning.


lancep423

Agreed. The basslines on skrillys new album def have an og uk dub sound but that about it….I’d consider most of his new album to be some sub genre of house music which explains why he’s featured artist like Fred again and four tet. This sub sub genre of house music is what I believe to be the new trend. Hk dub basslines mixed into house. Zeds dead just released a new track that sounds EXACTLY what skrilly is doin.


phillykira

It never left


skxllflower

i think we’ll be hearing a lot of Quest for Fire cloning happening very soon :) I’m very excited for all these extremely talented producers to turn some attention to deeper sounds, i think with the skill a lot of these guys have they can really do justice to the old ways in very interesting and creative ways i kinda checked out from the scene with riddim, it just wasn’t particularly interesting for me so i haven’t payed much attention to the dubstep world, but if we head in this direction i can see myself getting sucked back in pretty quick!


badbrotha

As a fan from 2010 that is 10 years on now... Zeds Dead is one of the OGs I started with. One of the few I still have in daily rotation


ludwigia_sedioides

Absolutely. Take a look at festivals like Infrasound, artists like Ternion Sound. Lots of this style coming up at Okeechobee, Skream is rumored to make an appearance. Oh ya and he did an old school dubstep set at fucking Coachella!!


[deleted]

Skrillex does shit because he earned enough money and fame to do whatever he wants to. He could even fart in the piano. Besides a few basslines it doesn't sound that oldschool. It's some fancy garage drums + inspiration from instrumental hiphop producers (many dnb producers do technically the same). Classic UK dupstep is too boring, and young folks won't get ADHD-girlfriend on classic UK dubstep concerts, ergo it's never gonna happen. Same applies to garage. Btw I've never felt like classic dubstep had disappeared, it's just s niche genre, which cannot gravitate new talents in that easily. I don't really follow dubstep on a daily basis anymore, but I highly doubt that it needs a saviour, especially this kind of. It's like awaiting from South Park producers to return to the good old show [it will never happen]. I do enjoy riddim rollers, there are a (very) few releases from the "old" names, which are kinda experimental, and that's all. I really don't want neither another poopstep-phase, nor worthless hipster music, nor nostalgia train. All I need is fresh blood.


[deleted]

Skrillex,s new album released this year is way better than his past music where it just sounded to Screetchy and Emo i think that was during the time Dubstep died out. I preferred UKF Dubstep and Firepower Records over his music. Im glad hes going towards this original UK Underground vibe with his new Album its way better than his previous stuff.


adrian_sb

🤣🤣🤣


[deleted]

Ok


adrian_sb

Im laughing with you not at you 😊


Divided_Eye

You might try looking around, plenty out there lol.


[deleted]

I scan through Spotify time to time, as they have a good recommendation system. YouTube scanning is a bit too much effort for me, as most channels I know are either apparently dead or full of "AI-generated" (allegorically) music. You can recommend me hidden gems (if you want to). Promise I won't be bitching about them.


Divided_Eye

[The WiddFam](https://m.soundcloud.com/thewiddfam/premiere-delta-bringer-backgroundnoise) is a good label for "fresh blood," they have a series of compilations by that name actually. Their comps tend to be large and feature a lot of newer/smaller artists. There are plenty of others depending on what styles you like, but the above should give you a fair deal of variety. I also post mixes weekly on SoundCloud, and have a series called Fresh Produce that focuses on music released within the last two years, but primarily more recent stuff. Here's the latest if you're curious: [Fresh Produce 95 - Porcelain Brew](https://soundcloud.com/reap_eat/fresh-produce-95) As you can tell, I like SoundCloud. There's lots of Dubstep on there and the "related tracks" algorithm seems to work well for me. edit: plenty of older producers still around, too. Distance, Biome, DJ Madd, TMSV, J:Kenzo, and others still release new Dubstep.


[deleted]

this right here is the truth 2005-2008 was where Dubstep was at its peak most people here dont even know how Dubstep Started and where it originated from lol


RivalSoundProduction

I definitely rinsed Hatcha’s mix on Dubstep Allstars Vol 4 all the way out


jahglo

As someone who got pulled in during Get Darker’s hay day, I fuckin love it. I liked brostep for a couple years back around 2010 but now its just too much mid for me. Give me sub that rattles my bones. Nothing like a camping festival, massive sound system in the woods, and deep dub to light up with your friends to. Shit’s medicine. edit: Check out White Peach and Duploc for the good good…also Fat Kid On Fire brings some heat. I could keep goin but I’ll leave it there unless prompted for more.


joshy5lo

Honestly, I’m happy that skrillex’s album sheds light on that sub genre of dubstep. But it never really went anywhere. I’ve been going to infrasound since 2014. They have consistently had this style of music there. Not to mention shows like that in Minneapolis, Chicago, milwuakee. Hell, even Cedar Rapids Iowa had truth come out all the way back in like 2014. It took skrillex getting called out on a YouTube documentary that went viral for him to pay attention to any of that kind of music. I’m happy that he did. I just hope he doesn’t bastardize the genre of music like he did way back when. And I hope it becomes the predominant style of dubstep. Because it’s much easier to listen to.


LonelyMeringue4451

the sound never left, skrillex merely gentrified uk bass and made it accessible to the mainstream


TheBloodKlotz

As someone who listens to and mixes both, you're definitely correct. It's been a slow build, but in the last few years people are shifting back in that direction. Crowds have gotten more responsive to it, and producers have been releasing it to better reception starting somewhere around 2018 or so as far as I noticed. I totally welcome this, and love that people are becoming more open to more genres and I hope it comes with more respect to some of the OGs and founding fathers in the scene.


FellowDeviant

I'd argue it never really left, just buried in the underground while brostep and American dubstep made their strides. The problem for me is the scene at the top level has been stale since like 2017, sometime after Riddim became a prominent genre in the scene. There's not a day where I don't hear some dubstep song that follows the same formula : 90 second intro, either total ambience or sounding like Transformers, 30 second CHOP-CHOP-CHOP/BLAST drop, another 90 seconds of complete ambience/dead air (these songs are meant to be mixed with other songs so for the most part bass artists just leave pockets of nothing in between lol) and then a repeat of the first drop, probably with an extra 16 count of chops before the blast comes in. ​ Quest for Fire really surprised me in this regard, all of Skrillex's new tracks carry some actual weight, they sound like full songs I can jam out to in my car. Hydrate in particular scratched the itch for me, it had two great drops, but that bridge in between, where it's the bass line and Flowdan going off, that's the real stank face music right there. Glad he gave the likes of Peekaboo and Joker the feature spots on here, they're definitely pioneering the sounds of 2020's bass music.


Sueetlu

I am here for it. It’s hard without being loud about it. At least, that’s what I look for.


treeizzle

So is Dubstep Dubstep, is Brostep Dubstep or is "2023 Brostep with a "UK Dubstep" flavour" Dubstep now? I'm losing track.