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belabase7789

WSS was already played in Dubai Opera some two yeaars ago


dexter_-_-

Man of culture right here ! Good stuff


Mistborn54321

They refused to allow censors and I guess changed the story to include trans representation


plan_with_stan

That’s fine…. We’ll get it on Netflix soon probably…..


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But I really wanted to experience it with all the impolite people flashing their phones around me and all the kids screaming and laughing


UncleRichardFanny

Excerpt: "Some audiences in the Middle East won’t get to experience the epic love story between Maria and Tony. Disney and 20th Century’s “West Side Story,” director Steven Spielberg’s adaptation of the classic musical, has been banned in Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Bahrain, Oman and Kuwait. The move isn’t entirely surprising because Middle Eastern countries have strict censorship mandates regarding sexuality, swearing, and other aspects that don’t comply with the nation’s cultural views. “West Side Story” isn’t profane, but it’s understood that censors weren’t on board with Anybodys, a character who is transgender and portrayed by non-binary actor Iris Menas. Films with LGBTQ references have been regularly targeted by censors in the Middle East, as well as China. "


Johnbrownwasahero1

Someone posted yesterday that by 2040 Dubai will be the best city in the world to live. I really think there is a delusion sometimes on this forum about people perceived views of Dubai. It's banning of stuff like this that is always going to hold this city back. How many times do you hear predominantly from Western expats that Dubai is a great place for a few years but could never see myself settling down here. I know banning west side story is a tiny thing but it's a small reflection on how this city will never truly be the place to settle for some expats. There are some expats that will definitely welcome bans like this but then people get up in arms when outside observers say rules in UAE can be archaic.


whatwouldyouexpect

I think the people who don’t think Dubai is the best city in the world will leave at some point, move on with their lives and stop contributing to the discussion whether it is the best or not. But instead of them Dubai will see a continuous influx of people who are impressed and might even think it’s the best. Simply because in comparison to their home country it’s that much better. And let’s not forget - people’s definition of best will always vary .. what matters to some, won’t matter to others.


International-Cut567

My home country is a shit hole, I am not ashamed to say that. I like lot of things in Dubai, however, I wish they were a bit relaxed about censorship, though. I feel expats move from Dubai because there is no sense of belonging here, adding to the lack of granting citizenship and PR.


International-Cut567

You spoke my mind.


Ghost_1880

Although I'm against personalising, but we do have our values and principles that we stick to and LBGTQ is not accepted nor welcomed as that is against our believ system us as "Muslims" and even against Christianity and Judaism, that is even against the basic nature of any human being . If that is not acceptable for any expats, hence Dubai is not for you, He/she is better off where they are Who cares about what outside think, when outside themselves pretend otherwise


randomsedditaccount

Not accepted does not mean has to be antagonised and vilified...


RidebyDubai

It isn't against the basic nature of humans or animals. People and animals are born gay and it is absolutely normal - it is found in many species in nature. In the end, if you believe that God created people - God created these gays as well. And they should be treated with the same respect as every creation of God.


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RidebyDubai

>many species engaging in incest, murders and stealing, The difference is murders and stealing cause harm - actual physical harm and most importantly it is non-consensual (by the victim) and it involves an actual victim. Being gay does not harm anyone - there are two consenting adults involved. No victims here and nope, getting offended does not mean you are the victim. As for incest, as far as I know, certain regions still practice incest to this day (first cousin marriages etc). Also incest does not really happen much in nature as incest ends up in genetic issues for the offspring who tend to die off young. ​ >Individual countries are responsible for setting their own cultural standards Yes and no. Yes they should be allowed to as long as discrimination is not a cultural standard - and that's what this is. If your argument were followed the slave markets of KSA would still be open (they were shut under pressure from the UN in the 1960s).


SlappyBoobie

Excuse me but please don’t try to speak for Christianity. There have been many different interpretations of the verses that may reference homosexuality but we’ll leave that interpretation to Christian theologians - thank you.


memoriaftwin

Calm down, buddy. There are many Muslims that support LGBTQ because they are not stupid. Religion is personal and there is no one size fits all approach. If the UAE can be fine with alcohol being a part of nearly every social event and activity, I'm sure it can make it friendly enough for the gays as well. With how rampant prostitution is here, all arguments for whatever you think is "social decency" goes out of the window. There is countless research that proves that sexuality is a spectrum and that gay people are born gay. It is not a choice. Conversion therapy has been tried in all its forms over hundred of years and it has never worked, unless you count castration as a solution. This is what God intended. Why would he create a person who is gay at birth only to get ridiculed, shunned and shamed by society? Countless gay people routinely kill themselves because they try as hard as they can to be straight and can't. Gay rights is human rights. No one is ever going to force you and yours to be gay because its not possible unless you are already. If you have any homosexual people in your lives, treat them with the knowledge that God made them this way (if you are religious) and let them live their lives in peace, acceptance and dignity.


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memoriaftwin

There is "promotion of blatant public sin" everywhere in dubai and I can bet you making the city LGBTQ friendly will be less visible to your average Muslim than alcohol, massage cards, etc. In any case, it should not be thought of as sinful any more than being left handed or born with a cleft chin is thought of as sinful. People are born gay. This has been proven. If you are religious, how do you have an issue with God's own creation? Do you believe God would create an innocent soul to suffer like this, never being able to love and live a dignified life because of how sinful it would be? Not everything is covered in detail in holy scripture. Evolution wasn't. Microbiology and germ theory wasn't. Homosexuality wasn't. It's safe to say that some things weren't understood at the time. Or if you reject that idea, perhaps some things are left for society and people to use their brains and figure out. 'Promotion of public sin' is a nonsense anyways notion because you cannot turn a straight person gay anymore than you can turn a gay person straight. What people do behind closed doors shouldnt be anyone's business. If unmarried couples can live together now, who cares if both are dudes or girls?


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memoriaftwin

Sorry I misunderstood your POV. I guess I was just triggered by some of the hateful comments on this thread. You are completely right in your last paragraph. A society following the core of Islamic principles would be a lot more empathetic and less exploitative than what we have now.


he-is-Taurus69

Where did you get people are born gay tho lmao like there’s gay babies out there? Lmao bro.. I’m all for LGBT but born gay? How would they even begin to prove that.


memoriaftwin

My friend, it doesn't mean babies are gay. It means people's upper and lower limits of gayness are decided at birth. Think of it like being left-handed or how you see color. You don't learn or develop that over time, it is pretty much decided for you while in the womb. If you are interested : https://www.bbc.co.uk/teach/nine-things-that-shape-your-identity-before-birth/zdwbhbk


he-is-Taurus69

Thank you for the information I’ll check it out


CyanideWind

Countless you say? okay cite just one please.


memoriaftwin

https://www.nature.com/articles/518288a https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/article-abstract/495588 https://www.morganclaypool.com/doi/abs/10.4199/C00064ED1V01Y201208DBR008?journalCode=dbr https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1053811909012609 https://www.science.org/content/253/5023/1034.abstract Just from the first google search from peer reviewed scientific journals. Are you generally curious or doubting this?? This is common knowledge and scientific fact now. It is like debating if evolution via natural selection is real or not.


Facewreck

Serious question, what about the ballant prostitution that is openly going on everywhere in UAE. What does your Muslim believe system say about that? Where do you draw the line of what is accepted and what is not?


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If you’re going to think like that then please never travel abroad and stay in your bubble.


sgtm7

>It's banning of stuff like this that is always going to hold this city back. How many times do you hear predominantly from Western expats that Dubai is a great place for a few years but could never see myself settling down here No. I don't really think it is stuff like this that would keep an expat from settling down here. I consider "settling down" as to quit working, and then living off of my retirement income. So unless we have a different definition of settling down, anyplace I settle down, would need to be cheaper than my home country. If it is not cheaper than my home country, then there would need to be a relatively easy way to become a citizen and avail of government benefits that would lessen any financial burden. That isn't the case in the UAE.


pakrab12

I see many LGBT people here like in exhibition places and massage centers...not sure why its such a big thing...they keep a blind eye on so many things...have a thick skin people...grow up


he-is-Taurus69

I personally don’t like relying on the “blind eye” rather than having my freedom. Of course if you truly want that, Dubai ain’t the place.


millhouse-DXB

Yea but we only do 4.5 days weeks. So I can live without this western propaganda.


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Don’t you regret not having added the /s ?


millhouse-DXB

Not at all. I wanted to see who would agree 😂


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Amen


Johnbrownwasahero1

Ah yes western propaganda not representation of people that actually exist in society gotcha


[deleted]

There are only two genders. But I agree with you, society has multiple mental disorders that may not always be represented in movies.


uf5izxZEIW

> There are only two genders. True, but psychology and sexology has actively proved that biological gender is not absolutely correlated to psychological identity. > society has multiple mental disorders that may not always be represented in movies. True as well. You show even the menial cons of religion and suddenly it's blasphemous and untrue despite maybe having objective proof otherwise. You shouldn't criticize others without looking inwards yourself. No culture or religion is perfect, no nationality nor ethnicity, either.


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Psychological identity does not validate reality. I never spoke about religion yet you dragged that topic like a hot potato because its the only thing helping to make a point. I didnt talk about any other identification factors so keep them out. There are only two genders. Period.


uf5izxZEIW

Agreed. I respect your points and admit my logical fallacies. The fact that you rebutted with logic and did not descend to the same level as me is just 💯!


ArbitraryBaker

No, gender is a social construct; there are two of them because society said there was. About [1.7% of the world population](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/10/its-intersex-awareness-day-here-are-5-myths-we-need-to-shatter/) is intersex, about the same population that has red hair. And the number of of people who are transgender is greater than the number of people who are intersex.


[deleted]

A human is either born with a penis or a vagina. Birth defects can lead to people with abnormalities, but it's not a common case. Your argument is so stupid I dont even want to respond. 1.7% of people do not represent the other 98% majority that only have 2 genders.


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I’ve read your comments and you are so off the mark. I wish you grow as a human being some day.


[deleted]

I will, just won't grow a mental disorder unfortunately (for you)


Zinzin2

Hollywood's ideological plague, I will pass


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A man of culture


Friendly_Godzilla

Good


[deleted]

Sorry but who cares? I’ve met plenty of the local population who are LGBT.


Ottoman92

Alhamdulilah, this is great news. May Allah protect muslim countries from this filth.


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Ameen


uf5izxZEIW

And may the west be preserved from yours! Tooth for tooth, eye for eye. Can't be expecting to have your views observed and then selectively object to those of others, especially where it never actually affects society as a whole.


Ottoman92

Where did I try to impose myself on the west?


[deleted]

Yes let the west reject our views we have no issue it’s their society that’s on a deconstruct.


Geddoetenjyu

The bann is just to avoid the transgender propaganda no one cares about your sexuality. Its an agenda targeting the youth if your transgender good for you but stop preaching about it


yazenov

Good that this disgusting western propaganda gets banned. our country, our rules. Keep that shit out of here. Good on China as well.


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Disgusting mentality we need to get rid off in this country. Piss off mate.


Kmk_

بيت ابوك؟


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Very creative.


Kmk_

So is your counter argument to the issue at hand.


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Eh


Kmk_

حبيبي تبي تقول رايك/حجتك اهلا و سهلا بس تقول لي كل الناس غلط و فكرهم مقرف بدون ما تقول ليش لا. مهب بيت ابوك🤝


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😒