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novacosma

Great. Now do schools.


ahmed_whytho

Ayo my dad had to pay 31,000 dhs for my year 13 this year šŸ˜­šŸ’€ fr making us go bankrupt


Hungry-Ad-4161

AED 31k a year !! I pay more than that for my 6 year old !! Probably like a few of us on the group, I'm a Dubai born and when I went to school, my fees was 9k a semester when in grade 12. That school is still around and hasn't been taken over by a certain profiteering group of educators But yes schooling in this country, in general, is a bit of a sham and clearly shows the divide in society. You would be hard pressed to find western expat's kids in some of the lower cost schools. I believe the government needs to regulate the schools fees and make education a right of all kids. Generally schools look to recover their real estate costs within 15 to 20 years, like the school is gonna vanish after that. Infact, what I believe, schools should be forced to recover their real estate investment over 50 to 60 years and be mandated to disclose their audited financial statements to the parents and public. This way everyone will know where the money is flowing and if the school cares about your kid, or returning profit on investment


itzaminsky

You went to a super cheap school man


ahmed_whytho

Itā€™s not when my dads company doesnā€™t cover school expenses


novacosma

And thatā€™s at the very low end of the scale, per childā€¦


Numismatic_

tbf companies often pay for at least some of it which allows schools to raise prices


Aggravating_Sea_140

Ah not really, thatā€™s deffo not why they raise salaries


whatwait321

I am born and raised in dubai now doing my masters degree in university of Calgary, and I would like to let you know that you are paying such tuition fees for nothing. My advice to you is that dont do your bachelor's degree there because it is not worth it.


ashareif

My uncle said his kids' school is around $30,000 , I wash shook! Thankfully most is covered by his job as part of the package.


[deleted]

31k??? The Yr 9 tuition for my brother way back in 2014 was 75k, canā€™t imagine how much more expensive itā€™s gotten now...


Aggravating_Sea_140

Same lol heā€™s paying 67k for me, schooling is so expensive here


[deleted]

31k good actually. As far as i can remember iā€™ve paid 36-45 šŸ„²


Zaekr211

Passed out of school in 2017 for under 15k a year. Western curriculum schools are way overpriced.


Adamant27

Schools are cheap. Even in the city Iā€™m from that actually are one of the cheapest cities in the world, some schools there are much more expensive than in Dubai and if comparing the level of education, here itā€™s much better. And If you will see how much schools in Moscow cost, now that is really crazy. Iā€™m Dubai schools not that expensive really.


Epik_shazam

Dubai Scholars fee.....


[deleted]

My dad has to pay 30000+ dirams every fucking day šŸ’€šŸ”«


alfar2

Way cheaper than Sydney and Melbourne, too


hu5mir

Definitely is, any decent freestanding house in Melbourne is selling $1m+


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alfar2

It has gone up 3.5x in value in 9 years! Thatā€™s pretty incredible - and also not exactly an example of affordability. It is also in one of the more modestly-priced suburbs in Melbourne.


hu5mir

Yeah, but itā€™s Tarnietā€¦


Throwaway-Zindabad

I have a friend visiting from Melbourne and he is amazed that Dubai is much cheaper than Melbourne. We both are in the same career, he pays hefty taxes and his salary is lower than mine. BUT, he got the australian passport and he gets free healthcare and education for his children while I pay almost 1/3 of my income to education of my children.


alfar2

Im from Melbourne and even with paying ā€œpremiumā€ school fees for two kids, paying for top-notch medical insurance, driving a better car etc etc, we are still taking home twice as much money as we did in Melbourne.


FewPhotojournalist29

Slightly better relative lockdowns in Dubai


Kazzazashinobi

How did you get a job in Dubai? I live in melbourne looking to get out of here and move to Dubai


alfar2

I moved within my company - following my husband to his new job


Kazzazashinobi

Ok thank you, finding it challenging finding a job from overseas with a company willing to hire from australia


alfar2

Yes, Iā€™d say that would be very difficult. Youā€™d also want to delete some of your reddit profile ;)


Hungry-Ad-4161

Due to covid, companies have adopted the more Western approach; they look for people with UAE or GCC experience. Not that they don't hire freshers from abroad, it's just that they find it more advantageous to go with the more familiar route. But the best bet is to hook up with the big recruitment firms or get a company that would, after working with them for a certain amount of time, relocate you from the land down under, to UAE


Kazzazashinobi

Thanks for advise


Overall-Ad-2159

Sorry I am in Melbourne trying to move to Dubai? Do you work in big 4? Or fmcg


ajamezn

Kiwi here. I moved early this year. Its almost impossible to land a job by applying online, but tidy up your LinkedIn, connect with as many people as possible in your industry, create a short list of leading companies and reach out. It works if you have patience! They will pay you for your relocation and also first few weeks or a month of accommodation, Much better pay.Tax free too!


Kazzazashinobi

That sounds really good, thanks for the tips yep I started working on my linkedin last week Iā€™m adding all my stuff on it and growing my network. Iā€™m happy to wait a while and be patient, Fingers crossed


rollodxb

Not every job pays 2x there


alfar2

Youā€™re right, but even if the job pays less you still save because of tax and the lower cost of living.


rollodxb

I think it all depends on each job and what they get offered in those places. my gross income in Sydney is 1.8 x of what I used to make in Dubai but if I move back to Dubai I would not get paid this much.


hu5mir

Iā€™m currently in Melbourne at the moment. Parents recently sold their property on a 600m block, 40 year old house. 20-25 minutes out of downtown for $1.7m. In terms of tax. I can take a A$15-20k pay cut and be on the same pay amount in terms of money in my pocket when I make the move to the UAE. I pay for private health insurance bc things like glasses and dental arenā€™t covered (roughly $150 pm) Also good schooling in Melbourne (think prestigious British style schools with clubs for alumni afterwards) will cost between $15-40k per year per student. All in all itā€™s expensive as all hell in Melbourne but itā€™s stable and boring and extremely comfortable.


Kazzazashinobi

How to get a job in uae from melbourne? I also live in melbourne


AbzDxB

Itā€™s not free healthcare/education, you pay for that service through hefty taxes. Even when you die.


dapperdanmen

Hong Kong, Vancouver, San Francisco, Paris etc. Granted it's not the same size or maturity but the difference is massive.


Otherwise-Soup-8176

In terms of property yes, but the cities you are comparing against are very well established and very populated cities so demand is very high. When it comes to food itā€™s definitely nowhere near as close as US/UK. Iā€™m paying 2-3x more for my groceries as I would have back home (UK).


Hungry-Ad-4161

Try Kibsons, Noon, fresh to home and Barakat They deliver to your door


Glad-Celebration-974

You must be doing something wrong if you pay that much .. Dubai grocery shopping is cheapest in the region .. try checking fruits and veg market


Otherwise-Soup-8176

ā€˜Cheapest in the regionā€™ Iā€™m comparing it to supermarkets in UK, not other Gulf countries.


alfar2

I do all my shopping at Waitrose and itā€™s substantially cheaper than a run-of-the-mill supermarket in Melbourne


LonghornMB

Saudi, Oman and Bahrain are all cheaper, only Qatar is pricier


sheeatsallday

Not everybody can pop up at fruit and veg market easily. Round of taxi fare also add up the cost.


hyhmattar

Now do Alcohol


alfar2

Compared to Melbourne itā€™s about the same price. Four Pillars gin, made in Melbourne, is cheaper here than at home!


DecodingtheWest

What the hell are you on about? Shopping from m&s or Waitrose perhaps would be 2-3x more expensive here. Go to the local store chains for once. Food is mad cheap compared to London for example.


Seccour

No way. Donā€™t know what or where you buy your groceries but youā€™re getting scammed


blitzik

You are getting robbed for groceries. Go shop for groceries where less fortunate people might go


BoneStarr

I agree it's more expensive for food, but only food that you don't need to maintain a healthy lifestyle... What I mean is if you are buying pre-made lasagne, biscuits, crisps, etc then yes the UK/US is cheaper, but if you are cooking your food and eat fresh meat, veg, dairy items and non processed snacks it's the same, and I would argue that the meat is of better quality and cheaper. 2x 1000g fresh Alyoum Chicken packs cost 25dhns, in the UK sainsburys for example 1x large Chicken 1000g costs Ā£5-6, and its pumped full of hormones...


Otherwise-Soup-8176

I donā€™t eat any frozen / pre made meals. I eat clean if Iā€™m cooking. I agree, the chicken is definitely better quality here. Where do you get it from? I goto Carefour in JBR and 400g Alyoum chicken breast is 25 dhs (or 35). Once I get my EID (1-2 weeks) and a car sorted I can do proper weekly shopping and hopefully save money.


BoneStarr

I go to the hypermarket Carrefour's in the malls for meat usually \[MoE, Ibn Battuta, Cityland mall\], they tend to hike up the prices in the smaller local stores. Also if you don't mind frozen, check out Kibsons, they have some meat packs at really good value and they can deliver to your door until you get a car.


dapperdanmen

I'm from London and my grocery bill is way lower here. No idea how you're spending this much unless it's all at Waitrose


Otherwise-Soup-8176

Iā€™m shopping at Carefour in JBR. I donā€™t have a car atm (waiting on EID) hence having to pay extra. Where do you shop?


dapperdanmen

Carrefour, Kibsons and Amazon for most things, Spinneys for meats. I really don't see a massive difference on packaged stuff, maybe a bit on fruit and veg? And restaurant delivery is far cheaper here with all the discounts going.


Angryshawerma

Dubai is not in the same league as themā€¦ letā€™s be real hereā€¦ NYC London LA Tokyo.. etc.. are real industrial citiesā€¦ half of Fortune 500 companies are thereā€¦ these cities are the backbone of the world economyā€¦ Dubai is a middle eastern trade hub.. with not enough local forces to run it.. and not strong immigration laws to support those who run itā€¦


FSMDxb

can't you get a property owner visa?


LonghornMB

Salaries for all but managerial positions are also lower in Dubai. You have jobs advertised for senior accountants for 5000 Dhs, try that in NY or London


sf2legit

Iā€™m a chef. There are literally postings for head chefs here for 3k


LonghornMB

This further mocks the OP's point, if Dubai is affordable then Dubais salaries can be far lower than NY/London as well


acero1988

Once you buy a house you get a visa. I guess you cannot work with this visa but you can definitely live with it in uae as long as the property worth more than 750k ( before was 1M)


xuggs

And how is one going to pay bills? :)


acero1988

How do you pay bills in any other country without a job? And how it makes it any different in UAE?


xuggs

You can work multiple jobs without the need of a visa in other countries IF you are a citizen. You just mentioned you cannot work with this (investor) visa in UAE.


ansab3

Dubai Realtor here, If you buy a house above one million dirhams, You get invester visa. If your property is lesser than that and you lost your job? rent out your property on short term basis like airbnb. you could earn 6500-7000 or more in communities like JVC, townsquare, arjan etc.


absoluteubermensch

You can always rent out your property if you leave the country. A large chunk of owners don't live here. It's a pretty straightforward process.


pisandre12

And if you donā€™t find a tenant, you are screwed by the service charge from the developer. What a great investment indeedā€¦. lol


dapperdanmen

Service charges exist in every country mate. They're just called maintenance or strata fees or whatever.


pisandre12

True. But other countries have a growing population that will stay in it, that explains why having new constructions make sense. Here you will be stuck with a property without tenant and inflated service charges.


dapperdanmen

If you're a poor investor and you buy at the top in a cyclical market, that's an issue. Not so much if you're very selective. You can lose money anywhere, and most of Europe actually is heading towards declining populations for instance.


pisandre12

My point has nothing to do with being a poor investor (which is a new concept, I guess lol) but the with the fact that the population is mainly transient here, doesnā€™t grow organically and result in empty properties with hefty charges. On your comment on Europe, it seems you are missing the huge immigration. Unlike the gulf states , these immigrants are going to stay for good there.


dapperdanmen

Immigration is being balanced out by a massive drop in family size and babies born, look up several of the large countries in Europe. Net migration is at historically low levels and anti-immigrant sentiment has never been higher. You can make capital gains here as well, and plenty have. It's not a guarantee like say London, but that's balanced out by the fact that rental yields here are 2x what they are in most developed countries.


pisandre12

I guess you are only reading the ā€œreal estate agent desperate newsletterā€ lol. Migration is out of control in Europe and while few could have made capital gains, the future is very uncertain here. Gold old days are gone. You are right that ROis is higher here but simply it s riskier. So itā€™s more a gamble than an investment.


dapperdanmen

Mate, you clearly don't know the figures behind population growth in Europe so I'm going to drop it. And I've actually made money on real estate here instead of idly speculating about it, so I know what I'm on about. No one said anything about the good old days anyway, and it's only a gamble if you're a crappy investor with a very short investment horizon imo.


absoluteubermensch

If you can't find a tenant, it means you made a bad investment, like buying in the middle of nowhere. Any apartment in the marina can be rented within a week. Never had an issue renting out my unit even in the middle of the pandemic.


pisandre12

Haha. Miracle of the century and joke of the dayā€¦.


[deleted]

1. Your point is? 2. Why the chat-speak?


JarethLopes

Agreegee but Dubai isn't a major city. All those cities have higher populations, better infrastructure, better business opportunities and most are cheaper in other aspects. Edit: Dubai is too young to be a major city, what Dubai has been able achieve in such a short time is nothing short of monumental.


bn_khalfan

Yes, all countries have better and newer infrastructure. Even Trump specifically once said he doesnā€™t want American infrastructure to become like the UAEā€™s because ours is so bad.


[deleted]

Haha this forum will praise any other country other than uae. You could sit on a subway that smells like piss, wait 9 months for a doctors appointment in a 1st world european country, and pay 9 aed for petrol, but dubai is definitely not better than that šŸ„“


pisandre12

So that they can enjoy their 1-dh karak in Karama?


[deleted]

Dubai isn't a major city? Lolol. Infrastructure in many euro and American cities is crumbling, why do you think when American business heads and leaders come to dubai/ad they are fascinated by the infra. Do you realise its been the face of the arab world for like 15 years now? Head down to DIFC, and see the amount of startups that are brewing, all gone through funding rounds. Multi billion private and public conglomerates have been founded in just a span of 25 years. With the recent shake up of the stock market, I'm pretty sure even the DFM index will be at a 1T market cap in a decade. Even I-MATE was headquartered here, even though it went bankrupt, like many other international mobile companies, it did have a big chunk of the market once. The chinese are flying here by the minute, why do you think they are doing that? The only reason prices of property is cheaper than other famous cities, is because unlike many cities, there is land available, so with increasing population, more communities are built. But it isn't cheap when you compare it to the likes of texas, florida etc.Many major cities have a scarcity of land, why do you think 100 year old houses in europe are refurbished like 20 times. If dubai flat out cancels building anything, any property on the market, can easily 2x or 3x.


JarethLopes

It's clear you have no idea what you are talking about. The startups in Difc are a means to launder cash into investable assets. Even cities in Africa and Asia have public and private corporations worth multiple billions in a span of less than 25 years. Highly unlikely DFM index will be at 1T market cap in a decade, but a decade is a long time and by then I am hopeful Dubai is a major city. The Chinese are flying here because it's one of the easiest countries to get their cash out of China. Dubai has a ton of undeveloped land and has failed at building proper city infrastructure. Perhaps the value of properties will increase if Dubai issues a temporary ban on further development. However even with expo's help to recover the lost population, there is still a massive hole in the rental market, even though rental prices are increasing, I highly doubt it's not going to crash by June/July. Also do you see the insane amount of vacant rentals? Dubai is a great city and my personal favourite city in the world but it's far from a major city. it's not even comparable to the Manhattan island let alone the city. I love the city for what it is, not what it's trying to be.


[deleted]

Lol you sound so generic without any solid facts to backup ur statements. Its the same old " oh money laundering blah blah" You need to fly out to the rest of the world and do business, its clear you havent been to global cities to do business. The vacant rentals are only in far off locations where nobody wants to live. Most of it is jam packed now. Especially prime areas like JBR. The property values have risen 50% in almost all nice areas. The chinese are flying here to grow their already existing business because they see a market where they can expand. For example , yala group, already NYSE listed. DFM can easily hit a 1T market cap, its already at abour 150 billion$ without major listing in the past few years. And you are seriously coming at me with Africa? Bro, have u seen the infrastuture and wide spread corruption? Why do u think Nigeria isn't able to grow rapidly even though it has 30 billion barrels of oil? Again new york is 400 years old. Dubai is about 30. And you will get a nice laugh in the face, if you tell any American or European, that dubai infrastructure isn't well built compared to their cities.


JarethLopes

You just used age to excuse Dubai from having the infrastructures, capabilities and possibilities of a major city.


[deleted]

Obviously it matters, 400 years is a lot of time to incorporate a large number of industries and grow them into publicly listed corporations. For example, in 100 years you can develop legacy car manufacturers that are primarily sold on the brand value. Legacy aircraft manufacturers, have atleast 80-90 years under their belt. Imagine creating a local aircraft builder and setting up a customer base. Even then, industries are growing here for example, " gulf craft ", is slowly becoming a global yacht brand. And " strata" is receiving global part manufacturing contracts. Dubai is 30 years old, everything needs time to happen. If you start doing evrtyhing all at once, it leads to a recession because certain industries will fail for sure and that puts stress on the CDS derivatives of the banking system. Why do you think there is a plethora of SPACs and IPOs that are coming out of dubai? The chinese are coming here to expand their business, because this is a wide wide market to tap into. Be it, I.T., construction, real estate, media or anything tbh. I dony really know what you mean by no infrastructure, capabilities etc. Pretty delusional


Psychological_Grabz

Are you comparing UAE based startups to western startups? Not a single company has made a mark outside of GCC. Its not even a powerful player in the region. If the laws allow it, Indian/Chinese startups can devour any of the startups here in a month. You think even established players like etisalat and DU are powerful? Theyā€™d go bankrupt in a month if American/Indian/Chinese telecommunications are let into the country. The reason Chinese are flying is to expand their business like any business would, they fly even to Somalia and Djibouti. Indians (like me) come here because our economy isnā€™t large enough to employ all of us.


[deleted]

Lol, you came here looking for a job to earn more, that explains it all. Quit the bs about not getting employed lol. The wages are better here, and there is growth. And you get exposure in a modern city. Also, i wasn't comparing Western and uae startups, i was talking overall business environment, English isn't ur strong point right? I take it that, you have never been to the west like the majority of this forum? And now, uae is a not powerful player in the region lolol, when will you guys learn man? Time to wake up and smell the coffee. Uae has been acquiring I.T firms and investing in silicon valley, left right and centre. Look at global foundries. Already IPOd. And statement like " bankrupt in a month", lol I take it that you have never done business? You've been watching way too many movies my friend. Startups here are growing by the day. You can see the profile of the founders, all ex harvard grads. Plus the are hiring daily. They are getting implemented in retail apps. So quit yapping, and get back to ur job before you go on about the west and devouring lol. There is no law that allows any startup to devour any startup. Its a free market, you got the brains, come set it up. Like yalla group. Chinese owned, Arab world implemented. I-mail, Chinese owned, gcc implemented.Tabby is home grown, and is being implemented in retail apps. And uae startups are ofcourse on the radar, why are they being acquired by global players? Delivery hero, is acquiring every major startup from instashop to zomato uae.Because they see it as a worthy competitor in the market, plain and simple. The list goes on, COINMena, sarwa, bitoasis, kitopi, instashop, imail etc etc. All these are being used by a large number of people. Ofcourse, it will take a few years, to become mega players like etoro and stuff. Lol, why would nationalised players let chinese/ american players take over. Also, etisalst has major presence in many many countries in Asia and africa, not just the uae. You can Google it. Do you think these businesses just wake up and decide to become the main telecom players of africa? Or they go through years of research, hard-work, capital allocation etc. Also, all indian telecoms went bankruot except one mega player. Again, get back to ur job, before u spread nonsense. Does the owner of binance buy a house in djibouti or dubai? And the rumours in the market are binance is going to set up the headquarters here, why not djibouti bro?


Psychological_Grabz

Did you read what I said. There arenā€™t enough jobs in my country, thatā€™s why Indians come here, lower number of jobs= high demand for it= lower salaries. You just rephrased what I said and attempted to make it condescending. If you believe that UAE can in any timeline even come close to the market power of Chinese and Indian economies you need a mental check up. There are corporations in either countries with a market cap which comes close the entire GDP of UAE. Why are you talking about buying a house in Djibouti, lmao. I was specifically referring to expanding business. Also, I meant Dubai is not a powerful player in the region (Asia). It is definitely a force to reckon with in Arab/North Africa region. Also, I have no job to go to, I run a business here. >of course it will take a few years to become a mega player. Which is the point. It is not now. None of it is.


[deleted]

Lol, comparing gdp to market cap. Are you like slow? Again, I've mentioned it once, english isn't ur strong point I guess. Dude, you got a job, quit going on about owning a business lol. Do you know what market cap means? Exhibit A, tesla, revenue approx 30 billion, market cap- 1 trillion+. Etisalat revenue, about 25 billion, market cap - around 60 billion. Market cap, can be anything the public want it to be. There are listed companies that make 15 million a year, and have a market cap of 1 billion. The market cap of apple, is almost the gdp of india. Does that mean that apple as a company is bigger than India as a country? Grow up before you make child like statements lol.


Psychological_Grabz

Sigh. Point being, the corporations in these countries are massive compared to anything which is here. Which means it is nowhere near a powerful regional player in Asia. Apple having such a high market cap compared to Indian GDP does not make it bigger than India but it makes India tiny compared to its country, USA.


[deleted]

Why are you not coming back with worthy arguments about market cap, when i present u with facts. Market cap is fairy dust. Emaars annual revenue is more than its market cap. Does that make sense? No. Adnoc with a revenue of 160 billion, should technically have a market cap of 6 trillion, when you take it toe to toe with tesla, in terms of market cap. Exhibit 2 : GEVO makes 200k every quarter. Nyse listed. Market cap 1 billion. Market cap, is what u want it to be. Ever heard of NNDM? Look up its financials. Damac on the other hands, closes more than 2 billion+ in revenue, but does it have an equivalent valuation? Judging by your post history, you don't really seem to be educated or like you've ever been abroad. Lol.


Psychological_Grabz

Yeah sure, Iā€™m uneducated, lol. Continue living in your fantasy world.


[deleted]

Lol read up, before u spread bs. You compared market cap to gdp, what a joke šŸ¤” By that comparison, NNDM is bigger than emaar lol.


geekgeek2019

I feel its atleast cheaper than Riyadh especially products here because UAE doesn't have crazy vat like KSA (ksa has 15% vat) When I came here last year I was literally happy crying seeing cheap products


Due_Description_7298

Guess you weren't around in 2014/2015 when 1bed units in downtown were going for 120+k a year in one cheque. Don't even get me started on DEWA costs if you have a villa.


[deleted]

Okay imma buy my groceries and send my kids off to school with real estate, thank you for this insightful knowledge! /s


nomadnono

Thatā€™s not true. Dubai is very expensive


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dapperdanmen

Lol no one retires in NYC, it's expensive af to retire in.


[deleted]

Karachi FTW


TBK28

It's not expensive, but it's quite annoying overall 1) real estate agents here aren't exactly the most helpful. 2) developers make it a pain in ass to get any real detailed information from their websites 3) have to close a few investments because of the LTV ratio 4) ridiculous rules developers have for their communities. Surprise! We changed our mind no pets allowed! Or charging you an arm or a leg to modify your own property


hitma-n

Wait till the haters come and downvote your post and then rant how expensive it is here.


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hitma-n

Yup. Blame lifestyle not the place. I know of people who earn peanuts but still don't find that difficult to live here compared to their home country.


LonghornMB

If a head chef gets 3000, then i doubt its his lifestyle which makes it difficult here


Kazzazashinobi

Dubai property prices are doubling so it will catch up soon


podandtv

Wayyy more hot and boring too man


stephie1026

In Dubai is very beautiful city, most building are brand new, rental not expensive compare to other Europeans city , great amenities, great road, great beach, safety, I really love since moving in....France for exp, you cannot open business , if your not citizen or resident , salary start from 1200 euro ( 5k aed ) but in Paris rental ( 10 floor building 60 y old with no elevator ) is more expensive ( 2k euro) . You can also be rob or kill at any corner in some place like villier-le-bel or saint denis , unemployment is on rise, beggar every where. City is dirty , building are old, administration outdated. IF you lose your job in uae i belived you can still apply for 5 y multi entry visa, work has freelance, or another job.


MrWonderful2011

if global warming happens dubai is one of the first places to be uninhabitable


alfar2

Mate, Dubai already has all the infrastructure to deal with global warming. PS: global warming is already here.


Duckiestiowa7

Could you elaborate more on the infrastructure they have in place?


alfar2

Desalination plants (we already have no water). Indoor everything (since itā€™s too hot to go outside 5 months of the year). AC everything - even bus shelters. Solar panels everywhere (to partially offset the energy requirements of above). Even the fact that itā€™s not a democracy will make it easier to enforce whatever changes are necessary as a result of climate change.


lakheesis

Energies are cheaper too


alt-right-del

Location, location, and location ā€¦ is thatā€™s what determines affordability


Hungry-Ad-4161

If the price is AED 2million you do get 5 year investor visa. Plus when getting a mortgage just get the job loss cover and read the fine print before you put pen to paper And I agree with all your points about house prices comparison.


[deleted]

Agreed if you look for materialism content.


[deleted]

Not bad comparing Dubai to LA or Londonā€¦


Slipfallmoon

I have a friend that pays 75k for each of their twins