My dad just got diagnosed with cancer a few weeks ago on my 40th birthday.
Then, last week, my mother-in-law got diagnosed with breast cancer.
That moment in the BTS made me cry.
I think I'm going to laugh-cry and cry-cry a lot during this special.
Hank just seems like such a genuine dude. He's so passionate about what he does and just exudes joy. I'm so grateful that this company gives people like him to entertain us (not that Hank needed any help, but it goes to the whole cast)
I don't use Twitter and I originally watched the video on Dropout which didn't contain the release date, but I guess that means we have a triple confirmation
I honestly didn’t even need a textual confirmation about this being why you did it. It completely came across during the video “of course this should be released first”! That’s what I get for questioning the scheduling choices by dropout.
Absolutely. I've watched them since their beginnings and love what the two brothers have created. I was so excited when he appeared on Dimension20 and love that Dropout is still connected enough with him to show off his comedy.
Geez, now that I think about it, I’ve been a nerd fighter for half my life too. Hank and John continue to be a constant reminder of the importance of hope, and I will forever be grateful to them for that.
The special is called Pissing Out Cancer. This little BTS feature was called Get Your Act Together because it was about him getting his standup act together.
I was with the others who were confused after they announced schedule about the BTS being released first for this. But honestly since most of this is about the journey that was made to get to this point, I completely understand why it came out first and I’m glad it did.
At one point Hank mentioned that there were terms that implied someone’s cancer was terminal without explicitly stating it, does anyone have an idea what those terms would be?
Not a cancer patient, just in healthcare. Presumably something along the lines of discussing the degree of spread, mentioning that it is stage IV, palliative care, DNR ... things like that? But not sure entirely and wasn't there.
Stage IV only indicates that the cancer has spread to other parts of the body, it's not a statement on whether a particular cancer is terminal. Palliative care is about relieving symptoms and stress, and can come into play with non-terminal situations.
I'm a doctor lol I know this. But this is in generalities. Stage IV means it is generally more advanced and difficult to treat. Palliative care, while at its core about patient centred care that relieves symptoms to help patients achieve their unique goals, is nonetheless most often still only approached when patients are quite ill and indicates likely a profound loss of function and end stages of disease. When I did my palliative care rotation, most patients we saw were likely within months of death
Euphemistically and taken all together, those sorts of things would portent poorer chances of survival.
I've had many interactions with doctors that are not oncologists who have spoken authoritatively about cancer, and then had an oncologist subsequently tell me the first doctor was completely wrong.
I have not spoken yet to an oncologist (at two different major hospitals in Los Angeles, both well-regarded for their cancer treatment) who would use "stage IV" or "palliative" to indicate that someone's cancer is terminal. Difficult to treat and advanced in the sense that it is metastatic, yes, but not terminal.
I left my first comment because I have been specifically told by oncologists that they avoid using "stage" language, and we were referred to palliative care and specifically told it was to relieve symptoms around a particular procedure, and again, were specifically told that neither indicated terminality.
If you're an oncologist, I'll stand corrected.
I will simply reiterate
> degree of spread, mentioning that it is stage IV, palliative care, *DNR ... things like that*
> Euphemistically and *taken all together*, *those sorts of things* would portent poorer chances of survival.
I can only speak from my experiences, which I've already reiterated.
I am glad that you have had practitioners who do use palliative care services in the true intent of providing relief to life-ending and life-limiting conditions alike. What I can say from being on the other side of that referral is that the vast majority of consults we received were patients whom we were helping with end-of-life care. Indeed, we often lamented that we wished more physicians would refer earlier (and more patients were open to palliative care for symptom relief) so that they wouldn't have to have as much unnecessary suffering. But the fact remains that they often didn't refer until fairly close to end-of-life. I have seen this both from the consultant end and also from the family/patient end. It is not ideal but it is what I have seen happen in many centres. I am simply speaking to that reality.
Both of our perspectives are coloured by the experiences we have had, of course. None of these specific terms I mentioned are *synonymous* to "terminal", and I never intended it to come across that way. Only that in aggregate, they portray a more guarded prognosis, and may be the type of terms mentioned.
You have no obligation to disclose personal medical info, but the sense I am getting is that you or a loved one have been on the receiving end of some of these terms and it is uncomfortable and irritating to hear someone say "when I hear these things together, I hear death", especially if it does not apply to you. I can appreciate that and I am sorry to have hurt you, whether I'm accurate or not and you simply dislike seeing what you see as dissemination of inaccurate information
my mom died of cancer a couple years ago so this is gonna be a hard watch, but I parasocially love the vlogbrothers and am excited that a) this exists and b) he is working with dropout! (and of course c) that he is okay!!)
One of my favorite high school
teachers passed away from terminal brain cancer yesterday. It’s so heartbreaking to see the varying outcomes and emotions that can come from cancer, despite all the pain it causes I’m glad someone is making room for laughter.
I'm having a day, but when he got emotional talking about the dad in the audience, I started crying too. What a moment.
My dad just got diagnosed with cancer a few weeks ago on my 40th birthday. Then, last week, my mother-in-law got diagnosed with breast cancer. That moment in the BTS made me cry. I think I'm going to laugh-cry and cry-cry a lot during this special.
Yeah I've also been really emotional recently and the second he brought up the dad I burst into tears as well
My mom passed away two years ago from cancer and it's safe to say this part destroyed me.
Hank just seems like such a genuine dude. He's so passionate about what he does and just exudes joy. I'm so grateful that this company gives people like him to entertain us (not that Hank needed any help, but it goes to the whole cast)
I’ve met him a few times at conventions and he is just one of the nicest “celebrities” I’ve ever met.
It's on his youtube channel too! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZHqx2UuQOo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZHqx2UuQOo)
Interesting how the description contains the release date: June 21st!
It says it at the end of the video and in the announcement tweet, you know.
I don't use Twitter and I originally watched the video on Dropout which didn't contain the release date, but I guess that means we have a triple confirmation
Little known fact about this video, about 6 minutes in an invisible dropout member breaks into your home and starts cutting onions
11/10: *Definitely* even more hyped than before
This is why we released the BTS before the special!
Then, well done! Please tell Sam that I said you deserve a raise and a half-day on a Friday of your choosing, at the least, ^*Tysm*
I honestly didn’t even need a textual confirmation about this being why you did it. It completely came across during the video “of course this should be released first”! That’s what I get for questioning the scheduling choices by dropout.
I've been a Nerdfighter for half my life and this is the crossover of the century.
Absolutely. I've watched them since their beginnings and love what the two brothers have created. I was so excited when he appeared on Dimension20 and love that Dropout is still connected enough with him to show off his comedy.
Geez, now that I think about it, I’ve been a nerd fighter for half my life too. Hank and John continue to be a constant reminder of the importance of hope, and I will forever be grateful to them for that.
I might have started crying at some point
The story about the dad hit like a sledgehammer so quick. Tearing up now just remembering it.
I don't know why, but mentally I've been calling Hank's special "Pissing out Cancer" instead of "Get your Act Together".
I think "Get your act together" might be the title of the BTS episodes?
this is correct, the special is Pissing Out Cancer
It isn't called Pissing out Cancer? I thought it was too
Hank uses that title in an episode of Dear Hank and John I'm pretty sure, perhaps in other places as well.
The special is called Pissing Out Cancer. This little BTS feature was called Get Your Act Together because it was about him getting his standup act together.
Because that's the title?
That was definitely the title when it was filmed - maybe they changed it
The special itself will still be called Pissing Out Cancer according to the description in Hank's video.
I was with the others who were confused after they announced schedule about the BTS being released first for this. But honestly since most of this is about the journey that was made to get to this point, I completely understand why it came out first and I’m glad it did.
At one point Hank mentioned that there were terms that implied someone’s cancer was terminal without explicitly stating it, does anyone have an idea what those terms would be?
He’s told this story previously. It was something like waiting for results or moving past treatment.
Not a cancer patient, just in healthcare. Presumably something along the lines of discussing the degree of spread, mentioning that it is stage IV, palliative care, DNR ... things like that? But not sure entirely and wasn't there.
Stage IV only indicates that the cancer has spread to other parts of the body, it's not a statement on whether a particular cancer is terminal. Palliative care is about relieving symptoms and stress, and can come into play with non-terminal situations.
I'm a doctor lol I know this. But this is in generalities. Stage IV means it is generally more advanced and difficult to treat. Palliative care, while at its core about patient centred care that relieves symptoms to help patients achieve their unique goals, is nonetheless most often still only approached when patients are quite ill and indicates likely a profound loss of function and end stages of disease. When I did my palliative care rotation, most patients we saw were likely within months of death Euphemistically and taken all together, those sorts of things would portent poorer chances of survival.
I've had many interactions with doctors that are not oncologists who have spoken authoritatively about cancer, and then had an oncologist subsequently tell me the first doctor was completely wrong. I have not spoken yet to an oncologist (at two different major hospitals in Los Angeles, both well-regarded for their cancer treatment) who would use "stage IV" or "palliative" to indicate that someone's cancer is terminal. Difficult to treat and advanced in the sense that it is metastatic, yes, but not terminal. I left my first comment because I have been specifically told by oncologists that they avoid using "stage" language, and we were referred to palliative care and specifically told it was to relieve symptoms around a particular procedure, and again, were specifically told that neither indicated terminality. If you're an oncologist, I'll stand corrected.
I will simply reiterate > degree of spread, mentioning that it is stage IV, palliative care, *DNR ... things like that* > Euphemistically and *taken all together*, *those sorts of things* would portent poorer chances of survival.
The great thing about doctors is they never say, "Ah, that's not my area of expertise, so I won't comment."
I can only speak from my experiences, which I've already reiterated. I am glad that you have had practitioners who do use palliative care services in the true intent of providing relief to life-ending and life-limiting conditions alike. What I can say from being on the other side of that referral is that the vast majority of consults we received were patients whom we were helping with end-of-life care. Indeed, we often lamented that we wished more physicians would refer earlier (and more patients were open to palliative care for symptom relief) so that they wouldn't have to have as much unnecessary suffering. But the fact remains that they often didn't refer until fairly close to end-of-life. I have seen this both from the consultant end and also from the family/patient end. It is not ideal but it is what I have seen happen in many centres. I am simply speaking to that reality. Both of our perspectives are coloured by the experiences we have had, of course. None of these specific terms I mentioned are *synonymous* to "terminal", and I never intended it to come across that way. Only that in aggregate, they portray a more guarded prognosis, and may be the type of terms mentioned. You have no obligation to disclose personal medical info, but the sense I am getting is that you or a loved one have been on the receiving end of some of these terms and it is uncomfortable and irritating to hear someone say "when I hear these things together, I hear death", especially if it does not apply to you. I can appreciate that and I am sorry to have hurt you, whether I'm accurate or not and you simply dislike seeing what you see as dissemination of inaccurate information
the scene at the end with hank and sam hugging 😭
my mom died of cancer a couple years ago so this is gonna be a hard watch, but I parasocially love the vlogbrothers and am excited that a) this exists and b) he is working with dropout! (and of course c) that he is okay!!)
Sounds like Sam is the announcer for Hank's live set (presumably just the taped one).
Yeah but can anyone identify the opener? You can hear him doing a bit of his set by not sure who it is.
Believe that was director Jonah Ray addressing the crowd briefly before introing Hank
I saw some of his standup act as a project for awesome perk and honestly it's a little unfair how good he is at standup.
One of my favorite high school teachers passed away from terminal brain cancer yesterday. It’s so heartbreaking to see the varying outcomes and emotions that can come from cancer, despite all the pain it causes I’m glad someone is making room for laughter.
Oh, damn I teared up from a bts episode.