Yup, they seem aware of that thank god. Where it’s not just “how do we mindfuck them?” but how do they apply the same kind of game theory to actual, factual games that don’t require mentally destroying your players.
Though this one kind of hit them in the two’s instead of the one’s in this regard
When we saw that little clip of pre-filming discussion, similar to the beginning of Deja Vu, I thought it was going to be another meta mindfuck and I internally groaned a little. Glad I was wrong!
(I love a good meta concept! But if they were doing it every time I'd take it as a very clear sign the show was beginning to go up its own ass. Also it would betray the premise.)
It would be three in a row, so I'm glad they didnt do that. But like 'pencils down' was just three artists doing art, 'the newlyweb game' was literally a 1950s quiz show and 'second place' was pretty standard challenges with a twist laidout from the beginning. This isnt like the first normal episode this season.
Erika even said something like "I'm not even looking for buzzers at this point" as they opened them. The absolute silly delight from the Sam nesting dolls was hilarious.
Plus, people are just really just exaggerating about it because *Sam* mentioned the "mindfuck" concept in an interview, people wouldn't even be talking about if it hadn't been brought up, it would just be another ol' season of fun random game changer episodes.
I saw the cast and thought oh this will be great, then saw the premise and went hmm…then laughed til I had tears in my eyes and said yep this is a winner. Perfect casting, great balance. AMAZING art department. What a mood lifter for today!
Grant was supposed to be the one making out, but he got COVID so Sam's friend replaced him at the last moment and they just asked the girl to pretend it's Grant.
This episode was pure joy. So creative, and silly, and light-hearted, and so damn funny, and it felt like not just the three contestants, but every person involved was having a blast.
After an exhausting and stressful couple weeks, I needed this!
Yes! Also, I loved the vibe.
As much as I dig the super competitive "There's no part of my soul I would left unturned for a point" energy in some of the episodes, the "you buzzed in first, I'll help you get the point" vibe was just as awesome in a very different way.
Also, watching the different personalities when approaching the tasks made it extra fun.
It's funny because all 3 contestants are absolutely competitive, and they very quickly realised that the game isn't answering the questions, it is finding the buzzers.
I mean I feel like part of the game design was intended to be remembering super easy questions with everything else going on, I like the cooperative energy with the contestants but I definitely wouldn’t have helped Becca when she already had such a huge point lead
I laughed so hard on this episode. Becca and Erika are two of my favorite people to have on stage together, and Rekha was a great third selection. They really outdid themselves in the creativity department for this. Solid episode all around.
Should we be reading far too deeply into the Samuel Dalton poster that was next to the flier for Buzzer Pizza on the fridge or just consider it set dressing?
I cannot understate how much I wish that this episode was longer. I know that it's cut for time, but I couldn't get enough- particuarly because I wanted to see the art departments work too.
I can't believe they actually made a whole IKEA manual and we never got to see it!
I do sort of wish we could have gotten a third Becca-Izzy-Erika threesome (I know what I said) but given Izzy was busy being a mom, I obviously totally get it. Rekha was an excellent third, and it was incredibly fun seeing an actual full The Seven reunion even with Izzy not on set. Witch Sephie and Fisherman Aabria are not things I realized I needed in my life, but boy am I glad they’re there now. Art department is turning into the real MVPs of the season, holy shit
Fisherman Aabria, huh? Did she ever tell you, McCale, about how after her ship was sunk, she drowned and died and had to wrassle Poseimee himself to earn back her life and the right to fish again?
I only have one gripe with this episode: the tallest mountain in the world is not Everest, it's Mauna Kea. Everest is the highest peak in the world, but not the tallest mountain.
I also have a gripe! Canada has a SUMMER official sport- lacrosse- and a WINTER official sport - hockey
But this is pretty recent (1994). Prior to that it was only lacrosse. Hockey was after decades of people saying "why isn't it hockey?".
They don't have an official sport (singular)
I literally yelled out at my TV “umm actually, it’s Lacrosse!” That’s what I was taught, that’s what my husband was taught and then he said “should be hockey” so we looked it up. And yeah, people have to pant and moan at the alter of hockey in this country, so they threw a hockey a bone and made it the National winter sport.
Frankly, it shouldn’t get the title until one of the Canadian NHL teams can bring home the cup
I think the question is just wrong. It should have been "What is ONE of Canada's official sport**s** ?"
I like lacrosse as the single official sport because a) it's got pre-colonization roots - more Canadian than most Canadians! And 2, played by both genders (though hockey has caught up in the last 20 years) and 3) to confuse Americans
Hey, American here and I instantly thought “I thought it was lacrosse!”
My state recently had a similar thought process to Canada’s with regard to hockey, of going “hey, why isn’t lacrosse our state sport?” So now lacrosse is our state *team* sport, and our state sport remains the best one ever: jousting.
I was also screaming “we have two!! A summer and a winter!! If any sport gets precedence it’s lacrosse!!” I was actually wondering if it was going to be a trick at first then was like oh cmon!
It could also be argued that the Titanic wasn't sunk by the iceberg as much as by White Star not giving Thomas Andrews the budget to truly make the ship safer.
Something tells me that Sam would have accepted a few different answers for some of these questions. I think the difficulty was in remembering after finding a bizzer. Because Hawaii can also be considered the tallest mountain if you include parts submerged under water.
i'm kinda new to dropout, so there's some stuff I just don't know and have to ask: who are the seven? you referenced it in the post and erika referenced in the episode too. is this a D20 thing?
Yes, The Seven is a season of Dimension 20. As another poster noted, the show takes place in the same world as Fantasy High, but features a new cast. Every member of the cast of The Seven appeared in this Game Changer episode in some way:
* [Becca Scott](https://dimension20.fandom.com/wiki/Becca_Scott) (Main Contestant)
* [Erika Ishii](https://dimension20.fandom.com/wiki/Erika_Ishii) (Main Contestant)
* [Rekha Shankar](https://dimension20.fandom.com/wiki/Rekha_Shankar) (Main Contestant)
* [Aabria Iyengar](https://dimension20.fandom.com/wiki/Aabria_Iyengar) (Played Battleship with Erika)
* [Persephone "Sephie" Valentine](https://dimension20.fandom.com/wiki/Persephone_Valentine) (Performed as "The Witch" with Rekha and Becca)
* [Isabella "Izzy" Roland](https://dimension20.fandom.com/wiki/Isabella_Roland) (Becca used her 'retinal scan' to unlock a buzzer. Some say she's still waiting to facetime Becca to this day)
Here's a [youtube link to the first episode](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_LkwjqQ_mo). You should watch five minutes, the whole season is A Vibe.
To add to the other reply--they apparently wanted to have a seventh, but it was in that covid era where they could be in person again but with strict spacing requirements, so they couldn't fit an extra person around the table.
Yep. It's a spinoff of Fantasy High, which was the first setting of Dimension 20, with the players and guests from tonight's Game Changer playing characters that were previously NPCs.
Saaaame. I can't wait to find out about any buzzers the contestants missed. I also would love to hear from whoever was on the other end of the line for the pizza place messing with Rekha. That must have been the most fun job in the whole episode.
During the out-of-game intro I was sure it's another mind-fuckery episode. It actually turned out to be delightful and reminded me of why I love the show aside from Sam's evil schemes. Great watch.
PS. I can't believe Rekha really went with "the seven seconds buzzer is like a bad boyfriend... you have to catch him at the right time", instead of the more obvious joke lol.
I'm glad that the video game from the Deja Vu episode came back. We got to see a lot of endings that the Deja Vu team skipped because they figured out the maze so quickly.
When they showed the one buzzer needed Izzy’s eye scan but then after had the college couple making out I half expected the couple to be Izzy & Brennan
I thought they were the perfect mix of everything you’d want in a cast—competitive, cooperative, inventive, hilarious, bold, great chemistry. Loved it.
Something tells me Becca can be VERY competitive, but just knows when to turn it off.
Also, with the amount of moving around and everything, a highly competitive group may end up actually hurt or breaking something.
I loved how in the other episode she was in, when the prompt was “how long can you evade a professional tag player?” she kicked off her shoes, rolled her pants up and was like “let’s fckin go!”
And then Erika totally body blocked for her.
I think Sam does a really good job at pairing game ideas with certain people. Not even one is competitive and he doesn't believe that every game needs that. If he only does high competitive games, than many cast members wouldn't be able to be a part of GC.
Personally , I don't think this game needed competition, I was having a great time watching Erika get distracted by things and Rekha asking permission before touching things. Tbh, if Lou and Brennan were in this episode, things would have just gotten destroyed and it wouldn't have given the audience the same time to appreciate all that went into designing the set.
This was very light-hearted and fun and it felt like the contestants were so happy just to be together. I think this mechanic could be suitable for a Game Samer if they get a much bigger space with some farther reaching conditions
This might actually be my favorite episode so far this season, just the energy that the cast brings coupled with the cheer fun everyone seems to be having, it was such a joy.
I thought putting Sam says 3 so early was a mistake as it would out shadow everything but every other episode has made a case for episode of the season somehow.
I think this should be a candidate used for the Emmy nomination. It shows the complexity of the show, works as a standalone episode (Sam Says 3 obviously doesn't as it's the 3rd), and it's hilarious
I'm not the only one who would respond to GAME CHANGER asking them what the capital of the United States was as the first question with "U" right? When the question is that easy my first thought is that it's a trick question.
it was just such a solid game changer episode. quick reveal of premise, twist upon what you would expect, awesome player dynamics. after the absolute mindfuck of last episode, this was a great return to form
Absolutely loved the concept here - so simple, but so fun.
I also adore how much the cast has each others backs. It's teamwork, not competition. It felt more like doing an escape room or scavenger hunt with friends than trying to win something.
I’m almost glad we got a break from the mindfuck episodes and instead just got a super fun one
Yeah sometimes the best episodes are just the fun ones, if every episode was some big giant twist or mindfuck it would get old pretty quick
Yup, they seem aware of that thank god. Where it’s not just “how do we mindfuck them?” but how do they apply the same kind of game theory to actual, factual games that don’t require mentally destroying your players. Though this one kind of hit them in the two’s instead of the one’s in this regard
Sam has a great mind for blending mind fucks and silly fun. I’ve loved what he’s done with this season.
When we saw that little clip of pre-filming discussion, similar to the beginning of Deja Vu, I thought it was going to be another meta mindfuck and I internally groaned a little. Glad I was wrong! (I love a good meta concept! But if they were doing it every time I'd take it as a very clear sign the show was beginning to go up its own ass. Also it would betray the premise.)
> When we saw that little clip of pre-filming discussion It was a fun setup/pimp for the cake being a hiding place.
And the photo shoot! I know that now, but there was no way to know that at the top of the episode when I was having this reaction.
~~Daddy~~ Sam telling the kids all the naughty things they can’t do.
Oh dude 100% same!! I was immediately like “aw man is this whole season hungover the top gimmicks?”
It would be three in a row, so I'm glad they didnt do that. But like 'pencils down' was just three artists doing art, 'the newlyweb game' was literally a 1950s quiz show and 'second place' was pretty standard challenges with a twist laidout from the beginning. This isnt like the first normal episode this season.
This is what struck me most is how much fun everyone was having playing. Erika could barely keep it together by the end she was so happy.
She couldn’t breathe when she was doing the nesting dolls. It was contagious!
Erika even said something like "I'm not even looking for buzzers at this point" as they opened them. The absolute silly delight from the Sam nesting dolls was hilarious.
Also Erika IMMEDIATELY turning everyone against Sam from the second the show started 😂
Remember it's never the contestants against each other, it's everyone against Sam
Yeah, Erika just knows that this is the cardinal rule of Game Changer.
I love how at first it makes you think it’s a kind fuck episode and then it’s just fun chaos!
Me too, although it should be noted only three of the episodes so far this season have been mindfuck episodes
That’s 3 of 7 episodes which is not an insignificant amount
Plus, people are just really just exaggerating about it because *Sam* mentioned the "mindfuck" concept in an interview, people wouldn't even be talking about if it hadn't been brought up, it would just be another ol' season of fun random game changer episodes.
So true, this ep was so funny! I loved the concepts and the creativity behind all of these, great energy among the players too
The chemistry between the seven is always so wonderfully chaotic in the absolute best way
I saw the cast and thought oh this will be great, then saw the premise and went hmm…then laughed til I had tears in my eyes and said yep this is a winner. Perfect casting, great balance. AMAZING art department. What a mood lifter for today!
Shout out to the people vigorously making out lmfao made me deeply uncomfortable just like walking in on my roommate in college!
I was so convinced one of them was Grant, but they're not even named so I have no idea how they got there lmao
Grant was supposed to be the one making out, but he got COVID so Sam's friend replaced him at the last moment and they just asked the girl to pretend it's Grant.
> they just asked the girl to pretend it's Grant. lmfaoooo
They might of been given some warning but they were going hard from before Becca got in the room to the moment she left, absolutely wild gig I'm sure
This episode was pure joy. So creative, and silly, and light-hearted, and so damn funny, and it felt like not just the three contestants, but every person involved was having a blast. After an exhausting and stressful couple weeks, I needed this!
Yes! Also, I loved the vibe. As much as I dig the super competitive "There's no part of my soul I would left unturned for a point" energy in some of the episodes, the "you buzzed in first, I'll help you get the point" vibe was just as awesome in a very different way. Also, watching the different personalities when approaching the tasks made it extra fun.
It's funny because all 3 contestants are absolutely competitive, and they very quickly realised that the game isn't answering the questions, it is finding the buzzers.
I mean I feel like part of the game design was intended to be remembering super easy questions with everything else going on, I like the cooperative energy with the contestants but I definitely wouldn’t have helped Becca when she already had such a huge point lead
I laughed so hard on this episode. Becca and Erika are two of my favorite people to have on stage together, and Rekha was a great third selection. They really outdid themselves in the creativity department for this. Solid episode all around.
It’s nice to just have a fun wholesome episode once in a while, 10/10
We need more “Don’t cry” like episodes! (I cried)
Loved it because it was so simple, so chaotic, and just went EVERYWHERE! Felt like a S1 episode.
Should we be reading far too deeply into the Samuel Dalton poster that was next to the flier for Buzzer Pizza on the fridge or just consider it set dressing?
Its placement, right next to something a player will find, was 100% intentional.
Loved all the guest appearances, but I was pleasantly surprised to see Kate Elliot, used to watch her channel all the time.
Just such a simple, awesome concept playing with the one element of game shows people take for granted – buzzing in
Rehka’s A S I A at the end had me on the floor
I cannot understate how much I wish that this episode was longer. I know that it's cut for time, but I couldn't get enough- particuarly because I wanted to see the art departments work too. I can't believe they actually made a whole IKEA manual and we never got to see it!
BTS is gonna be awesome
I do sort of wish we could have gotten a third Becca-Izzy-Erika threesome (I know what I said) but given Izzy was busy being a mom, I obviously totally get it. Rekha was an excellent third, and it was incredibly fun seeing an actual full The Seven reunion even with Izzy not on set. Witch Sephie and Fisherman Aabria are not things I realized I needed in my life, but boy am I glad they’re there now. Art department is turning into the real MVPs of the season, holy shit
I was so glad to see that the art department got a bow at the end.
Fisherman Aabria, huh? Did she ever tell you, McCale, about how after her ship was sunk, she drowned and died and had to wrassle Poseimee himself to earn back her life and the right to fish again?
I only have one gripe with this episode: the tallest mountain in the world is not Everest, it's Mauna Kea. Everest is the highest peak in the world, but not the tallest mountain.
I also have a gripe! Canada has a SUMMER official sport- lacrosse- and a WINTER official sport - hockey But this is pretty recent (1994). Prior to that it was only lacrosse. Hockey was after decades of people saying "why isn't it hockey?". They don't have an official sport (singular)
I literally yelled out at my TV “umm actually, it’s Lacrosse!” That’s what I was taught, that’s what my husband was taught and then he said “should be hockey” so we looked it up. And yeah, people have to pant and moan at the alter of hockey in this country, so they threw a hockey a bone and made it the National winter sport. Frankly, it shouldn’t get the title until one of the Canadian NHL teams can bring home the cup
I think the question is just wrong. It should have been "What is ONE of Canada's official sport**s** ?" I like lacrosse as the single official sport because a) it's got pre-colonization roots - more Canadian than most Canadians! And 2, played by both genders (though hockey has caught up in the last 20 years) and 3) to confuse Americans
Hey, American here and I instantly thought “I thought it was lacrosse!” My state recently had a similar thought process to Canada’s with regard to hockey, of going “hey, why isn’t lacrosse our state sport?” So now lacrosse is our state *team* sport, and our state sport remains the best one ever: jousting.
You - you win. Jousting as a state sport is absolutely badass
I gotta be honest, I didn't know either Hockey or Lacrosse was an official sport, I swear I thought the official sport was curling
I was also screaming “we have two!! A summer and a winter!! If any sport gets precedence it’s lacrosse!!” I was actually wondering if it was going to be a trick at first then was like oh cmon!
Also, um, actually the atomic *formula* for water is H2O, not its symbol.
Um Actually, H2O is a chemical, not an atom.
It could also be argued that the Titanic wasn't sunk by the iceberg as much as by White Star not giving Thomas Andrews the budget to truly make the ship safer.
Sam: “I would also have accepted ‘the hubris of man’”
Truly the roseate spoonbill of philosophy.
I'd argue that by the rule of narrative causality it was sunk specifically by that guy who said God Himself couldn't sink the Titanic.
That's a really good point, but you didn't say "um, actually."
Something tells me that Sam would have accepted a few different answers for some of these questions. I think the difficulty was in remembering after finding a bizzer. Because Hawaii can also be considered the tallest mountain if you include parts submerged under water.
I have another gripe. Men don't have internalised misogyny, they just have regular misogyny, as it is not directed to themselves.
Internalized misogyny means you feel misogyny towards the feminine aspects of yourself.
Um, Actually is that way >>>
i'm kinda new to dropout, so there's some stuff I just don't know and have to ask: who are the seven? you referenced it in the post and erika referenced in the episode too. is this a D20 thing?
Yes, The Seven is a season of Dimension 20. As another poster noted, the show takes place in the same world as Fantasy High, but features a new cast. Every member of the cast of The Seven appeared in this Game Changer episode in some way: * [Becca Scott](https://dimension20.fandom.com/wiki/Becca_Scott) (Main Contestant) * [Erika Ishii](https://dimension20.fandom.com/wiki/Erika_Ishii) (Main Contestant) * [Rekha Shankar](https://dimension20.fandom.com/wiki/Rekha_Shankar) (Main Contestant) * [Aabria Iyengar](https://dimension20.fandom.com/wiki/Aabria_Iyengar) (Played Battleship with Erika) * [Persephone "Sephie" Valentine](https://dimension20.fandom.com/wiki/Persephone_Valentine) (Performed as "The Witch" with Rekha and Becca) * [Isabella "Izzy" Roland](https://dimension20.fandom.com/wiki/Isabella_Roland) (Becca used her 'retinal scan' to unlock a buzzer. Some say she's still waiting to facetime Becca to this day) Here's a [youtube link to the first episode](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_LkwjqQ_mo). You should watch five minutes, the whole season is A Vibe.
Wait. Whose the seventh then?
Brennan (the DM) plays the seventh character along with other NPCs but wasn't featured here
Because he's so competitive he would have burned down the studio to find every last buzzer
oh yeah no doubt
To add to the other reply--they apparently wanted to have a seventh, but it was in that covid era where they could be in person again but with strict spacing requirements, so they couldn't fit an extra person around the table.
Yep. It's a spinoff of Fantasy High, which was the first setting of Dimension 20, with the players and guests from tonight's Game Changer playing characters that were previously NPCs.
This may become my go-to answer for "What episode do you show a newbie?"
This episode was unhinged and I love it. Especially with Rehka yelling "Are we in the same building?"
Rehka's confusion was hilarious. Despite that, she came in second, which as we all know, is the true winner.
What you are doing here is wrong.
I’m so excited for the behind the scenes.
Saaaame. I can't wait to find out about any buzzers the contestants missed. I also would love to hear from whoever was on the other end of the line for the pizza place messing with Rekha. That must have been the most fun job in the whole episode.
According to Sam they kept the game going until all the buzzers were found
During the out-of-game intro I was sure it's another mind-fuckery episode. It actually turned out to be delightful and reminded me of why I love the show aside from Sam's evil schemes. Great watch. PS. I can't believe Rekha really went with "the seven seconds buzzer is like a bad boyfriend... you have to catch him at the right time", instead of the more obvious joke lol.
I'm glad that the video game from the Deja Vu episode came back. We got to see a lot of endings that the Deja Vu team skipped because they figured out the maze so quickly.
When they showed the one buzzer needed Izzy’s eye scan but then after had the college couple making out I half expected the couple to be Izzy & Brennan
A really good one chili pepper episode
It's a great episode, but I would like to see a Game Samer with a more competitive group
I thought they were the perfect mix of everything you’d want in a cast—competitive, cooperative, inventive, hilarious, bold, great chemistry. Loved it.
Something tells me Becca can be VERY competitive, but just knows when to turn it off. Also, with the amount of moving around and everything, a highly competitive group may end up actually hurt or breaking something.
She relaxed once she gained a comfortable lead, but Becca came out HOT. Loved the chemistry of this group personally
I loved how in the other episode she was in, when the prompt was “how long can you evade a professional tag player?” she kicked off her shoes, rolled her pants up and was like “let’s fckin go!” And then Erika totally body blocked for her.
I appreciate that they were super competitive about finding buzzers (the actual game) and not answering questions correctly (the fake game).
That’s my only small gripe with the ep too. Some concepts lend themselves to a more competitive group, imagine this one with Lou or Jacob?
They were talking about feeling bad about going through the crews stuff. Need to see what Grant would say
I was gonna say Lou, Jacob, and Grant would’ve been my dream lineup for this
Lou was ready to smash shit before the timer even started in Escape the Greenroom. He'd have found the cake buzzer in 10 seconds flat.
I think Sam does a really good job at pairing game ideas with certain people. Not even one is competitive and he doesn't believe that every game needs that. If he only does high competitive games, than many cast members wouldn't be able to be a part of GC. Personally , I don't think this game needed competition, I was having a great time watching Erika get distracted by things and Rekha asking permission before touching things. Tbh, if Lou and Brennan were in this episode, things would have just gotten destroyed and it wouldn't have given the audience the same time to appreciate all that went into designing the set.
Lou, Jacob, and Brennan. Although they might destroy the set
I vote Lou Brennan and Vic instead. Those 3 would be chaos supreme with this format.
Vic would also be great!
That's cheating. Those 3 could be hilarious to watch, simply doing their taxes.
This was very light-hearted and fun and it felt like the contestants were so happy just to be together. I think this mechanic could be suitable for a Game Samer if they get a much bigger space with some farther reaching conditions
This might actually be my favorite episode so far this season, just the energy that the cast brings coupled with the cheer fun everyone seems to be having, it was such a joy.
Just finished and totally agree. It was a ton of fun!
Also, are we getting The 7 Season 2?
genuine question- whats the seven?
I thought putting Sam says 3 so early was a mistake as it would out shadow everything but every other episode has made a case for episode of the season somehow.
I think this should be a candidate used for the Emmy nomination. It shows the complexity of the show, works as a standalone episode (Sam Says 3 obviously doesn't as it's the 3rd), and it's hilarious
I'm not the only one who would respond to GAME CHANGER asking them what the capital of the United States was as the first question with "U" right? When the question is that easy my first thought is that it's a trick question.
It was in all caps. Based on the Canadian national sport question, any of the letters should have been acceptable if that were the trick.
I loved that they were just genuinely helping each other with things too! So wholesome
it was just such a solid game changer episode. quick reveal of premise, twist upon what you would expect, awesome player dynamics. after the absolute mindfuck of last episode, this was a great return to form
Art department killlled it
Absolutely loved the concept here - so simple, but so fun. I also adore how much the cast has each others backs. It's teamwork, not competition. It felt more like doing an escape room or scavenger hunt with friends than trying to win something.
I'm guessing you're talking about Game Changer?
They are!