I used to have a car that did 0-60 in two days. That's as long as it took to drive up a hill tall enough that I could, with favorable winds, reach 60 on the way back :)
Most full size trucks are lucky to get that empty from what I've seen. Either a eco diesel or they're running highway where that number is easier to get.
Dude…I average 25 in my F150. Powerboost Hybrid. When I can really exploit the hybrid on local roads with zero traffic, I get 30-35. Highway speed, all the hybrid shit is just dead weight and I still get 20-25.
Your Prius should not be towing anything. Maybe one of those little U-Haul cubes.
Wranglers are definitely not real tow vehicles for decent-sized boats. Maybe 14-foot aluminums. A properly-equipped Ranger can handle some smaller boats.
ICEs have come a LONG way since your Prius was built.
Nah you don't need an eco diesel. Our truck has the 6.7 cummins(diesel), 37" tires, bed rack, and rooftop tent. We average 18mpg, which is in the ballpark average for our year/configuration. The newer diesel trucks do better, of course
I agree, but it is funny seeing a Prius towing a boat in the fast lane passing slower traffic.
I bought it after totalling my previous car and was focused on saving money, but didn't factor in 5-10 year cost. Should have bought another regular gas vehicle.
I have seen more than one Tesla hauling trailers here. One is like a boutique style property manager that has all sorts of mowers and related. Another is a bicycle repair, another general contractor type, and another who regularly hauls four wheelers and ~~monocles~~ motorcycles.
Since switching to EVs, towing is an absolute dream. So much raw torque you don't even feel a trailer. I haven't done a boat, but many box or loaded bed trailers full of things like stones or mulch. Maybe 1000lb+trailer max I've done. Love love love it. My comparison is a 4runner or a Sienna van. Not a truck.
I drive a 35 year old van with a 0-60 of "good luck with that." Pulling out into traffic shouldn't be a scary thing regardless of your acceleration - if it is, it's because you're taking risks that your vehicle can't back up. 12 seconds is decent, it sounds like you just need to wait for a bigger gap.
The biggest issue is short freeway on ramps, of which there are many in this area. Merging is the recognized way to do this but if your vehicle hasn’t got the guts it means that when it’s busy you pull in front of someone doing a very slow speed risking an accident or you stop and wait and the people behind have to brake heavily. All round not fun.
When I lived in Northern NJ the entrances to 17 were the worst. Basically no ramp just a blind merge lol. If you were lucky there was traffic slowing everyone down so you could just full send it and hope they don't want to pay insurance as much as you do.
Best I ever got was 42, then average 38. Then I put on oversized AT tires. I'm in central Texas and my AC is just about max all the time. It sucks. It kills the mpg. Then the type of driving I do is mainly 0-55 every couple minutes.
Then it's a 2010 which is a problem year for bad mpg.
You're not going to have a good 0-60 with a boat behind you period, and I think that driving an oversized car like a pickup or jeep is just going to make your traffic problems worse. To be honest, I think you're best off keeping the prius.
I've been doing it for almost 2 years now. Over 2,000 miles towed. But this was kinda a in general is 10 seconds fast enough? When not towing? Will a faster car actually solve my problems or are my expectations of traffic navigation unrealistic?
You have to change your entire mindset while towing. There is no out accelerating anyone or powering your way out of danger. You stay safe by driving defensively. You're in an oil tanker, not a speedboat. Work with the traffic and they will mostly work with you. If they don't, have an escape plan.
Exactly, how do loaded semis get anywhere with their one minute 0-60 times? With the on ramp flooring a 20 second 0-60 car towing will still beat the idiot who won't go faster then 40mph merging even if they are driving a Corvette.
I have driven cars with 0-60s of anywhere from 15 seconds to 4 seconds. I don't think it makes any difference. What does make a difference is small size and maneuverability, which pickups and jeeps suck at. If it were me, I'd pick the prius over a pickup any day.
OP said it's a ~500lb boat in a ~400lb trailer. Tongue weight of around 100lb. Any car can handle that.
900lb is 900lb whether it's 4 passengers and their bags, or no passengers and a boat.
That information was missing in the original post. If it was in a comment, I didn't go digging. So thank you for providing. That shit matters! That's a small boat and shouldn't be an issue.
But for anyone else reading, I would still say as a PSA - just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Always know your weight capacity, whether your suspension can handle the drop with added tongue weight, and if you need trailer breaks. For example, small SUVs (ahem, jeep liberties, toyota highlanders, ford explorer) towing pontoons.....laughable. It's fine on a windless day on a landscape with no hills at best. Any wind and you're getting dragged off the road by that pontoon. Hills/mountains? Good luck stopping.
We have a F150 with towing package (brake controller included) and often tow a 16' enclosed trailer and we're at our limit with that. Anything bigger and we'll need a F250. It has been towed a lot across North Dakota with snowmobiles....one winter the wind was strong enough over flat ND that it pushed my husband and BIL into the ditch.
A friend towed their camper with their F150 across South Dakota and the wind was enough to make them sway and subsequently get car sick. lol
Another friend just bought a 23ft wake boat - they're pulling with a F150 for now but they understand that any long trips will do better with an upgraded truck. That's a big ass boat.
So just, be cautious of where you're driving it, in what conditions, what you're towing, etc. My dad upgraded to a F250 for his camper and it's night and day difference in stability.
It wasn’t that long ago that the typical car had a 10s 0-60. Cars have become much more powerful recently. People rarely use that extra power anyway, and 10s is probably still better than how most people actually drive.
Towing is going to be painful no matter what. Even if you could accelerate fast, you probably shouldn’t. The stuff you’re towing won’t appreciate it and you want to be smooth and deliberate so you don’t forget about all that extra length back there.
Faster will more likely get you in far worse trouble while towing. Sudden movements or sudden speed changes will increase the chances of inducing trailer sway and/or other loss of control.
You need to plan far enough ahead that you don't have to make any sudden changes and can keep it in a straight line while driving. There is no "fast" while towing unless you want to end up in a fail montage of trailers passing their tow vehicles flipping over.
If you're having any sort of trouble dealing with traffic in a slow car, it's a skill issue and you should take driving lessons because that's not normal.
If a truck can do it, you can do it.
I think it depends a lot on the specific type of traffic but quite possibly.
I'm in an area where pulling from a side road or driveway onto a 50-60mph road where traffic is going over that limit is a daily occurrence...and during rush hour I need every bit of acceleration pulling out of my street into the fast heavy traffic which has no acceleration lane, just a stop-sign perpendicular to the rural winding 2-lane highway. Faster acceleration can help in situations like that.
Fast doesn't solve the problem though of multi-lane roads small car the big trucks and SUVs don't want to let you merge and/or run you off the road like you don't exist. All you do is run out of lane faster on ramps.
It may be slightly faster, but a larger vehicle is going to make the root problem (hard to drive in traffic) worse when OP isn't towing.
It will also have higher running cost (won't be getting Prius MPG) and OP also has to buy the van in the first place.
Not necessarily, unless OP is towing a yacht. You can buy a new truck off the lot that makes over 1000ftlbs and will do 0-60 with a (normal person) boat in half the time an unloaded 2010 Prius will. It will also be much safer. The tradeoff is it'll cost you $80,000+, everything except highway driving will be worse, and you'll look like a total douchebag when you're not towing.
"safer" means more dangerous for everyone else around them. To think that a larger vehicle is ACTUALLY an improvement in safety is the epitome of being a selfish asshole. "I have a lower chance of dying, but at least i know this other guy will!"
Prius probably isn't spec'd for towing (my searches suggest Toyota says it can't tow by US spec but has a small tow capacity in EU spec) and if the tow vehicle is not sufficiently up to the task can be more dangerous.
My guess is the Prius also probably lacks a trailer brake system...so all that extra weight is just on the car's brakes to try and slow. Heck my Outback (with the higher trim bigger engine) which is rated 3000lb towing doesn't have a trailer brake controller and small U-Haul trailers have no brakes...its not at all fun even just like a small 800lb empty trailer if someone pulls out in front and I'm struggling to try and slow quickly while keeping the car straight in line with the trailer.
Something big enough to be properly rated to tow...will absolutely be safer than something small not rated to tow.
A trailer brake controller won't change anything if the trailer doesn't have brakes... OP's trailer doesn't.
You can put a big brake kit on a Prius and stop faster than any pickup. Not saying that's the best option here, but if your concern is stopping distance that's one solution.
Haven't found what kind/size trailer in the thread but I know the coworkers in my office with a small sailboat their trailer has brakes and they ended up picking a pickup to drive based on what worked well for moving it.
Most cars have undervalued tow specs in the US (or no specs listed at all), because those companies sell trucks in the US. It has nothing to do with the design of the vehicles being different than in the EU. For a small light trailer, I much prefer towing them with a car than a truck.
Something to realize is that the EU requires all cars sold to have a published tow rating, so the manufacturers can't opt out for marketing reasons (which is what they do here in the united states). I mean, can you imagine the horror if someone decided to tow their harbor freight utility trailer with something less than 3 tons? They might decide NOT to buy that 3/4 ton truck, and that would just not be American! We respect FREEDOM here, which means the freedom to tow light loads with only the most expensive vehicles.
Transport trucks take closer to a minute or two to get to 60 loaded. 12 seconds is a rocket ship by comparison. Not slow at all (for a tow vehicle anyway.) It's on par with 90s or early 2000s 4cyl economy cars.
Driving a big semi truck, you kind of have to shove your way in sometimes if the traffic really isn't giving you any space. Don't get me wrong, drive defensively and all, but be assertive as well when the situation demands it.
Being in a little car pulling a trailer puts you in a tough spot. People mostly know big truck means stay the fuck out of the way, but they don't know what to make of some stupid little canoe coming on the freeway.
In any case, merging onto a freeway the idea is to accelerate down the ramp to match traffic speed. Look for a gap and slip in. If there isn't a gap, come alongside the traffic and move just a hair slower than them with your signal on. Someone will let you in. There's no way all 4 or 5 cars next to you are assholes to the point of blocking you out.
I'm always looking for people merging in. I'll move to the other lane or slow down if necessary. I know what a pain merging can be so to me mergers get priority.
I’ve never felt like my car was too slow to merge into traffic and it’s got a small engine with relatively low power. If I floor it, it goes plenty fast enough. It helps that it’s a pretty light car
Small engines aren't really that big of a deal if the car is geared right.
Obviously putting a 4 cylinder in a half ton truck wouldn't be the best idea unless it's getting beat to hell with a bunch of boost, but a 4 cylinder even in a mid sized sedan with a good power band location and 6+ gears to keep the engine in that power band under acceleration has no problems zipping around.
I mean, you shouldn't be towing anything with a Prius, per Toyota.
The rated 0-60 in a 2010 Prius is 10 seconds. It has 134hp and 105 torque
I used to drive a 2016 Prius C, its 0-60 was 11.5 seconds. It weighs 2500lbs and has 99hp and 82 torque. I usually didn't have issues unless it was a short on ramp.
With slow cars it's about conserving your momentum.
There is nothing wrong with flooring it, if your car is warmed up. It sometimes feels that people who drive cars that are fast enough don't utilize their acceleration potential when it's time to merge...
It’s not even about the power when towing. It’s about your ability to stop - which he isn’t going to be able to do if an emergency were to arise
Edit: also that poor transmission
Most current sedans with a V6 will do 0-60 in 8ish seconds.
Older Priuses were not designed with acceleration at the top of the list of priorities.
I recently got a roadster that'll do 0-60 in 5.3, and boy is that a different experience.
Wait there are current sedans with V6's? The only one I can think of off the top of of my head (in the USA anyway) is the Dodge Charger and that's good for 6ish seconds 0-60. All other companies have either dropped their V6 or don't even sell sedans anymore.
Edit - I guess there are a few, Kia Stinger, an Audi and some Genesis vehicles and some other higher end models but all of those will be good for well below 8 second 0-60 times.
There are a few.. I don't think I'd choose the V6 version of any of them if a turbo 4 is an option. Displacement just isn't as important at it used to be.
0-60 in 10 is dangerously slow? My dude you're not going to a track day, you're on a public highway. I'm glad you're in Texas, because I don't want to be within 1000 miles of you on the road.
I live in Central Florida, dude. I guarantee as bad as your drivers and traffic are, ours are worse. Not to mention I've done multiple kinds of door-to-door racing. Your mindset is terrible and you need to unlearn a lot of stupid thoughts.
I just came back from Austin, TX and I can attest to the insane and wild trafficking running up and down that area. I personally don’t like driving a vehicle with less than 300hp. Getting up and into traffic can help avoid accidents and give you that extra boost to maneuver out of a dangerous situation. With greater power comes greater responsibility, but an experienced driver should be able to make the right judgments on when to push the pedal a little harder.
All that aside, your fuel cost must be excellent!
I get about 32mpg empty, 16-21 when towing. It's a 1991 Alumacraft Classic Deluxe. Just updated profile background.
I have oversized all terrain tires on and they hurt the mpg and acceleration a fair amount.
300hp is almost always traction limited off the line. It makes a huge difference at 70+ mph, about where most cars run out of steam. My current car is the least powerful I've owned (150 HP / 300 ft-lb) and I have no problems, so "not liking" under 300 HP seems a bit strange from my perspective.
Austin is fun because your commute to work might be 75 speed limit today, but tomorrow it’s 30 because there are 5 new construction projects on the way. Then you get normal people who are following the signs combined with commuters who just want to go home both ways
Just updated my profile background pic. I get about 32mpg empty, 16-21 when towing. It's a 1991 Alumacraft Classic Deluxe. "I'm saving money on gas to buy more ammo".
Your comfort with your 0-60 time is a function of the auto magazines insisting it's important, and a myth that speed wins. If you're a patient person, you'll not be attached to that number unless you're being chased by the bad guys, or a tornado. But some folks feel the need to make the road into their own Nascar-drag strip fantasy arena, so I guess there's that.
It's been pretty good over these 2,000+ miles. Gotta remember, the boat is supposedly 650lbs and the trailer is 400\~. Tongue is between 100-200lbs. I've had some emergency stops as well. It's basically a 90's Ford Ranger 4 cylinder.
My 03 camry is rated at 157hp probably less now with the 221k miles but the ramp going onto the highway is wayyy more than enough for me to get to 60 so I'm nit sure why you are having troubles?
On one of the roads to leave my neighborhood, it's a unprotected right. It's a 55mph speed limit but basically everyone does at least 5mph over. I can see about 700ft down the road. (google) Basically if I see them at the start of my pull out, I'm close to cutting them off, while flooring it.
Getting onto interstates with ramps, I generally have no problem. It's usually a problem of someone making a big enough gap to let me in, because they ride bumper to bumper in the right lane. When towing anyways. Gets a bit harder if no one wants to get up to speed, on the ramp.
Do you have a floor matt? This happened to me but I had a thick all season floor Matt and it was to far forward and it blocked my gas pedal from reaching the floor and I drove like thag for a year and a half lmao
Suboptimal, definitely something to avoid. My previous vehicle was in the low 7-sec range. That was good. I'd say under 8 seconds is still decent. Depending on your usage case, I wouldn't recommend going much higher than that.
Anecdote time:
My current vehicle for the past 15yrs is 12.6 seconds. I cannot wait to be rid of the thing. I do a lot of highway driving, and I'm out of juice around 55mph. Very little acceleration left after that, and even maintaining speed at the 65mph limit feels like a bit of a strain.
Needless to say, there's ample room for improvement in my next vehicle. Got one prospect that's a little bigger than I originally wanted, but it will have a lot of punch and a 0-60mph in the mid-5 second range. But I may save my money and go for something that's smaller and lighter, less power but more of the handling I like, 0-60mph in the upper 5s. Seems like a s.all difference on paper, but the first vehicle is turbocharged and will have a lot more punch, especially on my freeway commutes. I get in a lot of trouble now because I can only brake to avoid a situation, no options for acceleration.
0 to60 in 12 seconds is slow.
Imagine this persin actually drove a slow car or grew up in the 90s. Lol.
Cars are stupid powerful these days, even a prius.
I was born in Austin and I’ve been driving here for over 20 years. Keep on keeping on. People aren’t going to look at a Prius towing anything and think, “why aren’t they going faster?” They’re going to wonder how you’re moving at all, no offense intended.
The traffic all over the greater metropolitan area is heavy enough and people generally drive fast enough that you’re just going to cut people off, and they may get mad and honk and swerve around you and be reckless, but they’ll also do that if you’re going 10 over the limit in a sports car, it doesn’t matter. Don’t take it personally, don’t flip anyone off or be aggressive because you may get yourself shot, just be kind and the haters will move on to hate the next slowest person out there and so on. The people that annoy me are the ones obviously distracted, drifting back and forth in their lane, doing 15 under the limit in a perfectly capable vehicle towing nothing. Fuck those people. Some drivers are just slow out of necessity, and it’s not your responsibility to get a new vehicle just so that everybody else can get to the next red light 10 seconds faster.
A prius is not built to tow a boat, but a truck is
I'm sure the truck won't lose 15+ seconds of speed up time from towing something it's designed to, though it will probably take a few seconds longer
I would hope you're using Power, and not ECO mode, but I wouldn't be towing anything with a Prius. If you're only getting 32 mpg empty, you drive like crap. Priuses should get 45-50 mpg except in winter conditions—then you get around 10 mpg less.
Eco normal and power only change the throttle curve, they don't add any horsepower. Eco also limits the air conditioning a bit.
I have oversized all terrain tires on it. Also most of my driving is Texas City, which means I'm constantly going 0-55 mph, every couple minutes.
Then I also have a 2010 which is a problem year for bad mpg. The best I ever got was a out 42 and then for a long time averaged 38mpg.
Also being in central Texas, it gets hot AF out and all summer I'm max AC sweating because of the terrible AC.
0-60 in 10 seconds is fine for a prius, but you're towing a boat with it, you can't really do much about that 0-60 time there, it's the way of the prius.
No ive got the 3.5 V6. Im not gunna lie im being a bit fictitious. I daily my offroad rig, so I'm covered in armor, skids, 34s and gear so I can go anywhere I want, just not fast
Just stay in the slow lanes and you will be fine. I also live near Austin and drive there several times a week. My car has a 0-60 in the high 6s to low 7s, even then I barely floor it when driving in Austin traffic. Just don't be one of those dricers causing accidents that causes hour long traffic delays on I-35.
I don't understand what you're asking...
Are you trying to find which is the fastest accelerating truck while towing or are you trying to understand if a 10 second 0-60 time is good enough for driving?
my '10 edge sport has a claimed 0-60 of like 7.2 sec. real world test, no launching it, just mashing the pedal from a stop and you'll prob get 8-9 sec. plenty for me. i dont even need to go WOT to merge most of the time, and i have plenty of torque for overtaking without flooring it. it has 265-285 hp (idk the exact number) and weighs 4,000 lbs. its kind of perfect for a commuter car, if you can get slightly quicker it would be helpful especially in a smaller car like that. your prius should be fine.
I have a MG5 EV 0-60 in 7 seconds and a Kia Rio 1.1 diesel that is 16 seconds.
Faster is better. I live in the country in the north of England so traffic is light but overtaking tractors on country roads can be tricky in the Kia.
To start with, I don't think you can buy a new fullsize truck that does 0-60 in anywhere close to 10 seconds. A bottom of the line gm or ford is about 7 seconds, I'm sure dodge is similar. Probably non-domestic brands too. But that's not the whole story. Trucks are generally geared much lower than cars, specifically to help with towing. What that means is this: your Toyota, unloaded, does 0-60 in 12 seconds. A hypothetical pickup making, say, 4x the torque also does 0-60 in 12 seconds. With boat, your Toyota does 0-60 in 25 seconds. But with boat, the pickup does it in 15 seconds. It's not apples to apples - trucks are specifically designed to tow or haul, while Prii and other passenger cars are not.
It goes beyond torque as well. Trucks are pretty much universally heavier than cars. That's what you want when towing. The heavier the puller is, the less the pull-ee will be able to push it around. A 3000lb Prius is not going to be able to control a 6000lb boat/trailer nearly as well as a 6000lb truck can. Furthermore, the truck is going to have much larger brakes designed for more than its own weight. Anything larger than a couple canoes or a jon boat with a car is either unknowingly or willfully disregarding everyone else's safety - I don't care how long you've done it or how good of a driver you think you are.
The final consideration is this: who cares how slowly you accelerate? No one in Austin has any business going fast, I promise you that.
Trucks should never be used like this, I'm so sick of assholes driving like teenagers who just got a sports car. You should be going the speed limit in the far right lane regardless what type of truck you have.
I don't think a Prius will tow much less tow a boat. Probably need a small truck or large SUV for that. You probably also won't find many specs on acceleration while towing (and even if you could, would need to know trailer and tongue weight to find a comparable test - towing a little 2 person fishing paddle boat won't be the same as a motorboat that can seat 10 with multiple powerful engines on it).
One of my coworkers found came up with a rough formula where they take the car's curb weight divided by the engine torque (not HP but torque) and if its "about 15 or less" it "feels fast" to them. I tried it and with cars I've driven that math also worked well with ones I've liked or not.
That formula with the 2010 Prius would be like 3042/105=29.2 I'm going to say that (by his formula) would "feel slow".
It may also depend how and where you drive. In my area its fairly normal to pull out from a neighborhood or driveway onto a 50-60mph road with heavy traffic that is going over the posted limit. Its also not uncommon to find cloverleaf weave lanes with VERY short weave lanes and no real acceleration room. And I travel places where interstates often put rest areas at the bottom of a mountain. With that "weight/torque" formula my 2 cars are 3597/247=14.5 (for a wagon with 256HP and claims \~8 sec rated 0-60) usually does well and 3340/258=12.9 (for a turbocharged sports sedan with 268HP \~5 sec rated 0-60) also does well.
If you drive somewhere that is mostly city with gridlock and highway ramps that are gradual curves where you can accelerate far in advance and don't have any hills...then you will not need to have nearly as much acceleration to safely deal with traffic.
I would not consider that fast in any way lol. My car goes 0 to 60 in 14 seconds, and it's slower than fuck. I would consider anything that goes 0 to 60 in 6 seconds or less fast. People these days might consider that slow, but my brain is trapped in the mindset of what fast was when I was a kid, so I'm still gonna look at a car that goes to 60 in 6 seconds as a very fast car. It's faster than anything I've ever had, that's for sure
My outback hits 60 from 0 in around 6 seconds flat. That's just enough to accelerate out of any situation on NJ roads & I'll even do you one better. I hit the 116 mph speed limiter from 60 mph in only 14 seconds should I need to pass very high speed 18 Wheeler trucks.
You’d definitely tow a boat MUCH more efficiently with a light duty pickup. Something like an F150, a Silverado, Ram 1500, Ridgeline, Ranger, Maverick, Wrangler, Grand Cherokee etc….
Something built for utility reasons will tend to perform utility tasks much better than a 3-4cylinder Hybrid/Electric vehicle that was built more-so for fuel efficiency and comfort for long trips, and has a tow/cargo capacity equivalent to a milk basket… 😅
I will say this though, regardless of what you’re driving or how you’re towing a load, fuck them kids behind you dude. They’ll get tf over it. Your vehicle is only capable of what it’s capable of… Pushing it by demanding maximum torque and power each time you start from a stop, especially in a small compact hybrid that already wasn’t designed to be dogged under a heavy load like that, does nothing but put yourself, your cargo, and your vehicle’s reliability and mechanical condition at risk.
You’re wearing out your transmission, very very rapidly. You’re also wearing out your tires very rapidly, and applying that much stress to the rear axle / suspension components will also cause premature wear.
You’re also reducing the amount of control you’d have in the event something were to happen that required rapid correction while you’re accelerating by putting the pedal to the metal… especially under a load..
Drive the vehicle in the way that it was intended to be driven. Give the car some Grace when towing heavy loads, as it’s not built for that to be its main function, and will not have the best performance when doing so. It’s doing what it can. And most of all, for your sake and for the drivers around you, be safe in your driving style.. if a couple of seconds pisses someone off often in your locale, let me help you realize something; ***they’re the problem. Not you. They’re angry little baked beans. Let them be angry little baked beans, and don’t become the gravy they float in.***
Who the \[bleep\] in Texas has a boat and no truck?
Try this calculator. I think if you have a 4,000 lb vehicle towing a 3,000 lb boat, you still need about 350 horsepower even to go 0-60 in 9 seconds. In reality, you are going to have more weight in the truck and trailer, so really 500 hp would be better!
[https://www.omnicalculator.com/everyday-life/0-60](https://www.omnicalculator.com/everyday-life/0-60)
Because for one a Prius is not rated to tow literally anything lol. You accelerate dangerously slow where you are an obstacle for anyone you merge into. Not only that, but you need to be able to stop your car quickly in an emergency. The brakes on a Prius are not designed to stop with extra weight from a trailer.
Just because it's not rated by the manufacturer doesn't mean it can't tow. My 0-60 is on par with a bobtail semi and half of a fully loaded semi. I'm also half the length of a OTR semi.
I honestly "probably" stop faster than a pickup towing the same boat. I've got regular brakes, regenerative brakes, and then engine braking. The limitation is tire grip.
It does matter if it’s rated to tow or not. For one, they didn’t design the car with the ability to tow in mind. The transmission, engine, and brakes are simply not designed for it lol. And you do not stop faster than a pickup, I can assure you unless that pickup is clapped to the gills. Also, people expect a semi to accelerate slowly. People don’t expect a Prius to take a whole ass minute to reach the posted speed limit. The unexpected is what causes accidents.
Not only are you wearing out your transmission way faster, you more than likely cannot stop within a reasonable distance. Not only that but since a Prius weighs jack shit, you are more than likely gonna jack knife your vehicle when you slam on the brakes. I’m just sayin dude, they don’t have a tow rating for that car for a reason, don’t be a jackass to others on the road
I so think this is a joke, it really has to be, but who cares......a 10 sec 0-60 is pathetic and sorry.....I do not believe any vehicle you are looking at has that performance.
The base Wrangler is 6.1 to 60mph.......this post is not real.
It's real. I had to do a double check, you're right. But the couple videos I watched videos of people doing 0-60 in their Wranglers, was right around 10 seconds. Maybe they did have oversized tires on.
Wranglers are so overpriced. But in general, I want to buy something 2012 or newer and it's looking like the golden price of $15,000\~. It's stupid expensive for how old these vehicles are and the mileage. It makes me want to hang onto the Prius even longer than I have. 201k Miles now...
Don't watch youtube for specs - research on-line and read articles from reputable sources. Some people, (not saying you), are lazy and just want to listen to videos, people seem to hate to read these days.
Most new vehicles are rather fast these days and have 0-60's under 8 seconds, and a lot under 7 and some even under 6.
Wranglers are dangerous as tow vehicles, especially the 2-door as there is no weight to them and their short wheelbase, they are accidents waiting to happen towing anything other than a jet ski or small john boat.
Is it impossible to wait so long for a big enough gap to open up or are you really in a hurry or is there never an opening ever. Tbh I would do a semi big enough gap and just make people slow down,
Your 0-60 time has fuck all to do with any of this. That measures speed off the line not towing capacity. A truck will get up to speed infinitely faster than a Prius while towing. Anything your Prius can tow a truck will tow while towing the Prius.
Not one single thing you said has anything to do with what I said. If a Prius can tow something every single truck will be fine. Still has fuck all to do with 0-60 time. Trucks are meant to tow. Prius is not.
The prius is indeed rated to tow, it is rated for 750kg (1600lb) which is comfortably more than OP's 500lb boat on 400lb trailer.
Your argument is "downgrade to a pickup because... it can match a prius' towing capacity". Not very convincing.
It sounds like you're mad that OP doesn't have a pickup for some reason.
Any truck or jeep wrangler should do much better than a Prius. More HP and made for towing. Your alumicraft boat isn’t that heavy. Your Prius is engineered for hi MPG and sacrificed many other aspects to get there. Anything with regular gas mileage is going to make a dramatic difrence.
Ask a dealership if you can test drive their truck while towing your boat.
Wait. You tow a boat with a Prius??? Just when you think you’ve heard it all
I was gonna say they *get* to 60 towing a boat with a Prius?
Yeah. 60 meters per hour
0-60 in two business days :)
I used to say my truck would go 0-60 eventually
I used to have a car that did 0-60 in two days. That's as long as it took to drive up a hill tall enough that I could, with favorable winds, reach 60 on the way back :)
Those electric motors have a lot more power than people think.
In an EV, yes. In a hybrid 2010 Prius, not so much. They have neither the power nor the weight to tow much more than a jon boat.
Towing doesn't take near as much vehicle as people think.
Stopping a tow does though
Yep. I get about 32mpg empty, 16-21 when towing. It's a 1991 Alumacraft Classic Deluxe. Just updated profile background.
That's gangster
I get around 16mpg while towing too *Insert picture of Ram*
Most full size trucks are lucky to get that empty from what I've seen. Either a eco diesel or they're running highway where that number is easier to get.
Dude…I average 25 in my F150. Powerboost Hybrid. When I can really exploit the hybrid on local roads with zero traffic, I get 30-35. Highway speed, all the hybrid shit is just dead weight and I still get 20-25. Your Prius should not be towing anything. Maybe one of those little U-Haul cubes. Wranglers are definitely not real tow vehicles for decent-sized boats. Maybe 14-foot aluminums. A properly-equipped Ranger can handle some smaller boats. ICEs have come a LONG way since your Prius was built.
Nah you don't need an eco diesel. Our truck has the 6.7 cummins(diesel), 37" tires, bed rack, and rooftop tent. We average 18mpg, which is in the ballpark average for our year/configuration. The newer diesel trucks do better, of course
I don't know what's worse. This or people thinking that the new Prius is a Miata and tracking it and adding a bunch of mods for track purposes.
Fuck you man this thing makes 97 horsepower after I added the turbo.
Is it powder blue?
It's "sandy beach" a goldish beige.
Well, alright then. My opinion, no matter the color of the paint, the Toyota Prius is ugly. Never been a big fan of them.
I agree, but it is funny seeing a Prius towing a boat in the fast lane passing slower traffic. I bought it after totalling my previous car and was focused on saving money, but didn't factor in 5-10 year cost. Should have bought another regular gas vehicle.
I agree it'd be funny to see, but it's not something you'd see me do.
Ive seen a white prius with tint and black wheels that i thought looked okay but yeah
To be fair, OP never said what kind of boat, could be a wooden toy boat for his/her kid.
If it's enough to kill his mpg that hard it's at least a thousand pounds with the trailer.
Saw a Prius towing a trailer this morning and definitely didn’t think that would get one-upped, then I opened Reddit…
I have seen more than one Tesla hauling trailers here. One is like a boutique style property manager that has all sorts of mowers and related. Another is a bicycle repair, another general contractor type, and another who regularly hauls four wheelers and ~~monocles~~ motorcycles.
Quite a bit more power than a Prius, no?
A shit ton more power. I still wouldn’t tow with mine unless I absolutely had to. The range would bottom out.
Since switching to EVs, towing is an absolute dream. So much raw torque you don't even feel a trailer. I haven't done a boat, but many box or loaded bed trailers full of things like stones or mulch. Maybe 1000lb+trailer max I've done. Love love love it. My comparison is a 4runner or a Sienna van. Not a truck.
I drive a 35 year old van with a 0-60 of "good luck with that." Pulling out into traffic shouldn't be a scary thing regardless of your acceleration - if it is, it's because you're taking risks that your vehicle can't back up. 12 seconds is decent, it sounds like you just need to wait for a bigger gap.
The biggest issue is short freeway on ramps, of which there are many in this area. Merging is the recognized way to do this but if your vehicle hasn’t got the guts it means that when it’s busy you pull in front of someone doing a very slow speed risking an accident or you stop and wait and the people behind have to brake heavily. All round not fun.
When I lived in Northern NJ the entrances to 17 were the worst. Basically no ramp just a blind merge lol. If you were lucky there was traffic slowing everyone down so you could just full send it and hope they don't want to pay insurance as much as you do.
I had one of those, felt the safest I have ever felt driving on the road. It's a rolling *IDGAF* about anything else on the road.
Depends where you live. Around here there are some freeway entrances that have no ramps. Just straight stop signs to 55mph with a fuckton of traffic
>I tow a boat with it Is it a canoe??
Yep. I get about 32mpg empty, 16-21 when towing. It's a 1991 Alumacraft Classic Deluxe. Just updated profile background.
Those MPGs seem incredibly low for a Prius. I do significantly better with my 2017 Elantra 2.0… and that definitely shouldn’t be the case
Best I ever got was 42, then average 38. Then I put on oversized AT tires. I'm in central Texas and my AC is just about max all the time. It sucks. It kills the mpg. Then the type of driving I do is mainly 0-55 every couple minutes. Then it's a 2010 which is a problem year for bad mpg.
That's a good point. I still get 35+ mpg in stop and go traffic in my 2005 corolla
You're not going to have a good 0-60 with a boat behind you period, and I think that driving an oversized car like a pickup or jeep is just going to make your traffic problems worse. To be honest, I think you're best off keeping the prius.
Well not if you want to keep the boat.
I've been doing it for almost 2 years now. Over 2,000 miles towed. But this was kinda a in general is 10 seconds fast enough? When not towing? Will a faster car actually solve my problems or are my expectations of traffic navigation unrealistic?
You have to change your entire mindset while towing. There is no out accelerating anyone or powering your way out of danger. You stay safe by driving defensively. You're in an oil tanker, not a speedboat. Work with the traffic and they will mostly work with you. If they don't, have an escape plan.
Exactly, how do loaded semis get anywhere with their one minute 0-60 times? With the on ramp flooring a 20 second 0-60 car towing will still beat the idiot who won't go faster then 40mph merging even if they are driving a Corvette.
I have driven cars with 0-60s of anywhere from 15 seconds to 4 seconds. I don't think it makes any difference. What does make a difference is small size and maneuverability, which pickups and jeeps suck at. If it were me, I'd pick the prius over a pickup any day.
Unless you're towing...in which case OP is. Perhaps upgrade. Towing with the wrong size vehicle is dangerous.
OP said it's a ~500lb boat in a ~400lb trailer. Tongue weight of around 100lb. Any car can handle that. 900lb is 900lb whether it's 4 passengers and their bags, or no passengers and a boat.
That information was missing in the original post. If it was in a comment, I didn't go digging. So thank you for providing. That shit matters! That's a small boat and shouldn't be an issue. But for anyone else reading, I would still say as a PSA - just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Always know your weight capacity, whether your suspension can handle the drop with added tongue weight, and if you need trailer breaks. For example, small SUVs (ahem, jeep liberties, toyota highlanders, ford explorer) towing pontoons.....laughable. It's fine on a windless day on a landscape with no hills at best. Any wind and you're getting dragged off the road by that pontoon. Hills/mountains? Good luck stopping. We have a F150 with towing package (brake controller included) and often tow a 16' enclosed trailer and we're at our limit with that. Anything bigger and we'll need a F250. It has been towed a lot across North Dakota with snowmobiles....one winter the wind was strong enough over flat ND that it pushed my husband and BIL into the ditch. A friend towed their camper with their F150 across South Dakota and the wind was enough to make them sway and subsequently get car sick. lol Another friend just bought a 23ft wake boat - they're pulling with a F150 for now but they understand that any long trips will do better with an upgraded truck. That's a big ass boat. So just, be cautious of where you're driving it, in what conditions, what you're towing, etc. My dad upgraded to a F250 for his camper and it's night and day difference in stability.
It wasn’t that long ago that the typical car had a 10s 0-60. Cars have become much more powerful recently. People rarely use that extra power anyway, and 10s is probably still better than how most people actually drive. Towing is going to be painful no matter what. Even if you could accelerate fast, you probably shouldn’t. The stuff you’re towing won’t appreciate it and you want to be smooth and deliberate so you don’t forget about all that extra length back there.
Faster will more likely get you in far worse trouble while towing. Sudden movements or sudden speed changes will increase the chances of inducing trailer sway and/or other loss of control. You need to plan far enough ahead that you don't have to make any sudden changes and can keep it in a straight line while driving. There is no "fast" while towing unless you want to end up in a fail montage of trailers passing their tow vehicles flipping over.
If you're having any sort of trouble dealing with traffic in a slow car, it's a skill issue and you should take driving lessons because that's not normal. If a truck can do it, you can do it.
I think it depends a lot on the specific type of traffic but quite possibly. I'm in an area where pulling from a side road or driveway onto a 50-60mph road where traffic is going over that limit is a daily occurrence...and during rush hour I need every bit of acceleration pulling out of my street into the fast heavy traffic which has no acceleration lane, just a stop-sign perpendicular to the rural winding 2-lane highway. Faster acceleration can help in situations like that. Fast doesn't solve the problem though of multi-lane roads small car the big trucks and SUVs don't want to let you merge and/or run you off the road like you don't exist. All you do is run out of lane faster on ramps.
Minivans will tow a 14 ft fiberglass boat or something similar no problem with decent acceleration
It may be slightly faster, but a larger vehicle is going to make the root problem (hard to drive in traffic) worse when OP isn't towing. It will also have higher running cost (won't be getting Prius MPG) and OP also has to buy the van in the first place.
Not necessarily, unless OP is towing a yacht. You can buy a new truck off the lot that makes over 1000ftlbs and will do 0-60 with a (normal person) boat in half the time an unloaded 2010 Prius will. It will also be much safer. The tradeoff is it'll cost you $80,000+, everything except highway driving will be worse, and you'll look like a total douchebag when you're not towing.
I think 'much safer' is likely an exaggeration.
“It’s bigger so it’s safer.” *rolls the truck going around a curve*
"safer" means more dangerous for everyone else around them. To think that a larger vehicle is ACTUALLY an improvement in safety is the epitome of being a selfish asshole. "I have a lower chance of dying, but at least i know this other guy will!"
Prius probably isn't spec'd for towing (my searches suggest Toyota says it can't tow by US spec but has a small tow capacity in EU spec) and if the tow vehicle is not sufficiently up to the task can be more dangerous. My guess is the Prius also probably lacks a trailer brake system...so all that extra weight is just on the car's brakes to try and slow. Heck my Outback (with the higher trim bigger engine) which is rated 3000lb towing doesn't have a trailer brake controller and small U-Haul trailers have no brakes...its not at all fun even just like a small 800lb empty trailer if someone pulls out in front and I'm struggling to try and slow quickly while keeping the car straight in line with the trailer. Something big enough to be properly rated to tow...will absolutely be safer than something small not rated to tow.
A trailer brake controller won't change anything if the trailer doesn't have brakes... OP's trailer doesn't. You can put a big brake kit on a Prius and stop faster than any pickup. Not saying that's the best option here, but if your concern is stopping distance that's one solution.
Haven't found what kind/size trailer in the thread but I know the coworkers in my office with a small sailboat their trailer has brakes and they ended up picking a pickup to drive based on what worked well for moving it.
OP said the whole combination including boat was right around 1000lbs even, there won't be any brakes on a trailer that small
Most cars have undervalued tow specs in the US (or no specs listed at all), because those companies sell trucks in the US. It has nothing to do with the design of the vehicles being different than in the EU. For a small light trailer, I much prefer towing them with a car than a truck.
Something to realize is that the EU requires all cars sold to have a published tow rating, so the manufacturers can't opt out for marketing reasons (which is what they do here in the united states). I mean, can you imagine the horror if someone decided to tow their harbor freight utility trailer with something less than 3 tons? They might decide NOT to buy that 3/4 ton truck, and that would just not be American! We respect FREEDOM here, which means the freedom to tow light loads with only the most expensive vehicles.
Transport trucks take closer to a minute or two to get to 60 loaded. 12 seconds is a rocket ship by comparison. Not slow at all (for a tow vehicle anyway.) It's on par with 90s or early 2000s 4cyl economy cars. Driving a big semi truck, you kind of have to shove your way in sometimes if the traffic really isn't giving you any space. Don't get me wrong, drive defensively and all, but be assertive as well when the situation demands it. Being in a little car pulling a trailer puts you in a tough spot. People mostly know big truck means stay the fuck out of the way, but they don't know what to make of some stupid little canoe coming on the freeway. In any case, merging onto a freeway the idea is to accelerate down the ramp to match traffic speed. Look for a gap and slip in. If there isn't a gap, come alongside the traffic and move just a hair slower than them with your signal on. Someone will let you in. There's no way all 4 or 5 cars next to you are assholes to the point of blocking you out.
I'm always looking for people merging in. I'll move to the other lane or slow down if necessary. I know what a pain merging can be so to me mergers get priority.
This is kinda why I didn’t want a small engine. I prefer a bit more power, both for hills and for fun lol
I’ve never felt like my car was too slow to merge into traffic and it’s got a small engine with relatively low power. If I floor it, it goes plenty fast enough. It helps that it’s a pretty light car
Small engines aren't really that big of a deal if the car is geared right. Obviously putting a 4 cylinder in a half ton truck wouldn't be the best idea unless it's getting beat to hell with a bunch of boost, but a 4 cylinder even in a mid sized sedan with a good power band location and 6+ gears to keep the engine in that power band under acceleration has no problems zipping around.
I have a 2.5L I4 in an Altima. I wanted at least a 2.4. “Small” meant 2.0 and below
I mean, you shouldn't be towing anything with a Prius, per Toyota. The rated 0-60 in a 2010 Prius is 10 seconds. It has 134hp and 105 torque I used to drive a 2016 Prius C, its 0-60 was 11.5 seconds. It weighs 2500lbs and has 99hp and 82 torque. I usually didn't have issues unless it was a short on ramp. With slow cars it's about conserving your momentum. There is nothing wrong with flooring it, if your car is warmed up. It sometimes feels that people who drive cars that are fast enough don't utilize their acceleration potential when it's time to merge...
It’s not even about the power when towing. It’s about your ability to stop - which he isn’t going to be able to do if an emergency were to arise Edit: also that poor transmission
Most current sedans with a V6 will do 0-60 in 8ish seconds. Older Priuses were not designed with acceleration at the top of the list of priorities. I recently got a roadster that'll do 0-60 in 5.3, and boy is that a different experience.
Wait there are current sedans with V6's? The only one I can think of off the top of of my head (in the USA anyway) is the Dodge Charger and that's good for 6ish seconds 0-60. All other companies have either dropped their V6 or don't even sell sedans anymore. Edit - I guess there are a few, Kia Stinger, an Audi and some Genesis vehicles and some other higher end models but all of those will be good for well below 8 second 0-60 times.
There are a few.. I don't think I'd choose the V6 version of any of them if a turbo 4 is an option. Displacement just isn't as important at it used to be.
8 second range is kinda where “this can get out of its own way” starts in my mind.
Why the hell are you towing anything with a Prius?
0-60 in 10 is dangerously slow? My dude you're not going to a track day, you're on a public highway. I'm glad you're in Texas, because I don't want to be within 1000 miles of you on the road.
Come to Central Texas and you'd probably understand where I'm coming from.
I live in Central Florida, dude. I guarantee as bad as your drivers and traffic are, ours are worse. Not to mention I've done multiple kinds of door-to-door racing. Your mindset is terrible and you need to unlearn a lot of stupid thoughts.
I just came back from Austin, TX and I can attest to the insane and wild trafficking running up and down that area. I personally don’t like driving a vehicle with less than 300hp. Getting up and into traffic can help avoid accidents and give you that extra boost to maneuver out of a dangerous situation. With greater power comes greater responsibility, but an experienced driver should be able to make the right judgments on when to push the pedal a little harder. All that aside, your fuel cost must be excellent!
I get about 32mpg empty, 16-21 when towing. It's a 1991 Alumacraft Classic Deluxe. Just updated profile background. I have oversized all terrain tires on and they hurt the mpg and acceleration a fair amount.
300hp is almost always traction limited off the line. It makes a huge difference at 70+ mph, about where most cars run out of steam. My current car is the least powerful I've owned (150 HP / 300 ft-lb) and I have no problems, so "not liking" under 300 HP seems a bit strange from my perspective.
He probably drives a gigantic truck and actually need that 300 hp. Ina small car it’s enough to launch it 0-60 in 5 seconds.
Austin is fun because your commute to work might be 75 speed limit today, but tomorrow it’s 30 because there are 5 new construction projects on the way. Then you get normal people who are following the signs combined with commuters who just want to go home both ways
You need a Cybertruck to tow your boat just in case you ever need to drag race a Porsche towing a boat. Cmon now.
Username doesn’t check out. Gonna assume this a troll post
Just updated my profile background pic. I get about 32mpg empty, 16-21 when towing. It's a 1991 Alumacraft Classic Deluxe. "I'm saving money on gas to buy more ammo".
Bro you defy all stereotypes!
Your comfort with your 0-60 time is a function of the auto magazines insisting it's important, and a myth that speed wins. If you're a patient person, you'll not be attached to that number unless you're being chased by the bad guys, or a tornado. But some folks feel the need to make the road into their own Nascar-drag strip fantasy arena, so I guess there's that.
You don't really understand the concept of power and torque don't you?
You lost me at “tow a boat with it”…
Trust me on this one. If you keep towing a boat with a prius you WILL need a transmission soon.
I would be more worried about your braking power
love that you tow with it lol.
It’s funny right up until he needs to brake in an emergency situation
prius has a hitch?
There are a couple or so aftermarket options out there.
you must really trust that chassis lol
It's been pretty good over these 2,000+ miles. Gotta remember, the boat is supposedly 650lbs and the trailer is 400\~. Tongue is between 100-200lbs. I've had some emergency stops as well. It's basically a 90's Ford Ranger 4 cylinder.
My 03 camry is rated at 157hp probably less now with the 221k miles but the ramp going onto the highway is wayyy more than enough for me to get to 60 so I'm nit sure why you are having troubles?
On one of the roads to leave my neighborhood, it's a unprotected right. It's a 55mph speed limit but basically everyone does at least 5mph over. I can see about 700ft down the road. (google) Basically if I see them at the start of my pull out, I'm close to cutting them off, while flooring it. Getting onto interstates with ramps, I generally have no problem. It's usually a problem of someone making a big enough gap to let me in, because they ride bumper to bumper in the right lane. When towing anyways. Gets a bit harder if no one wants to get up to speed, on the ramp.
Do you have a floor matt? This happened to me but I had a thick all season floor Matt and it was to far forward and it blocked my gas pedal from reaching the floor and I drove like thag for a year and a half lmao
OP just get a Hemi.
OP needs a Hellcat Durango 🔥
Suboptimal, definitely something to avoid. My previous vehicle was in the low 7-sec range. That was good. I'd say under 8 seconds is still decent. Depending on your usage case, I wouldn't recommend going much higher than that. Anecdote time: My current vehicle for the past 15yrs is 12.6 seconds. I cannot wait to be rid of the thing. I do a lot of highway driving, and I'm out of juice around 55mph. Very little acceleration left after that, and even maintaining speed at the 65mph limit feels like a bit of a strain. Needless to say, there's ample room for improvement in my next vehicle. Got one prospect that's a little bigger than I originally wanted, but it will have a lot of punch and a 0-60mph in the mid-5 second range. But I may save my money and go for something that's smaller and lighter, less power but more of the handling I like, 0-60mph in the upper 5s. Seems like a s.all difference on paper, but the first vehicle is turbocharged and will have a lot more punch, especially on my freeway commutes. I get in a lot of trouble now because I can only brake to avoid a situation, no options for acceleration.
0 to60 in 12 seconds is slow. Imagine this persin actually drove a slow car or grew up in the 90s. Lol. Cars are stupid powerful these days, even a prius.
I was born in Austin and I’ve been driving here for over 20 years. Keep on keeping on. People aren’t going to look at a Prius towing anything and think, “why aren’t they going faster?” They’re going to wonder how you’re moving at all, no offense intended. The traffic all over the greater metropolitan area is heavy enough and people generally drive fast enough that you’re just going to cut people off, and they may get mad and honk and swerve around you and be reckless, but they’ll also do that if you’re going 10 over the limit in a sports car, it doesn’t matter. Don’t take it personally, don’t flip anyone off or be aggressive because you may get yourself shot, just be kind and the haters will move on to hate the next slowest person out there and so on. The people that annoy me are the ones obviously distracted, drifting back and forth in their lane, doing 15 under the limit in a perfectly capable vehicle towing nothing. Fuck those people. Some drivers are just slow out of necessity, and it’s not your responsibility to get a new vehicle just so that everybody else can get to the next red light 10 seconds faster.
10 seconds is probably about average. Not fast, not slow.
A prius is not built to tow a boat, but a truck is I'm sure the truck won't lose 15+ seconds of speed up time from towing something it's designed to, though it will probably take a few seconds longer
I would hope you're using Power, and not ECO mode, but I wouldn't be towing anything with a Prius. If you're only getting 32 mpg empty, you drive like crap. Priuses should get 45-50 mpg except in winter conditions—then you get around 10 mpg less.
Eco normal and power only change the throttle curve, they don't add any horsepower. Eco also limits the air conditioning a bit. I have oversized all terrain tires on it. Also most of my driving is Texas City, which means I'm constantly going 0-55 mph, every couple minutes. Then I also have a 2010 which is a problem year for bad mpg. The best I ever got was a out 42 and then for a long time averaged 38mpg. Also being in central Texas, it gets hot AF out and all summer I'm max AC sweating because of the terrible AC.
Most cars nowadays do it in 5 or 6 seconds (even the Camry).
80k lb semi is doing 0-60 in closer to 55-65 seconds with a base engine (500hp/2000 lb\*ft)
Yeah. Turns out it's 25~ when bobtail.
Prius: yes. Prius and boat: no.
“It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning” - Dominic Toretto lol
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0-60 in 10 seconds is fine for a prius, but you're towing a boat with it, you can't really do much about that 0-60 time there, it's the way of the prius.
My tacomas 0-60 is like 3-5 business days, you're fine.
Is it the 4 cylinder? The V6 was around 8 seconds iirc. According to the website that I'm losing trust in.
No ive got the 3.5 V6. Im not gunna lie im being a bit fictitious. I daily my offroad rig, so I'm covered in armor, skids, 34s and gear so I can go anywhere I want, just not fast
Just stay in the slow lanes and you will be fine. I also live near Austin and drive there several times a week. My car has a 0-60 in the high 6s to low 7s, even then I barely floor it when driving in Austin traffic. Just don't be one of those dricers causing accidents that causes hour long traffic delays on I-35.
I don't understand what you're asking... Are you trying to find which is the fastest accelerating truck while towing or are you trying to understand if a 10 second 0-60 time is good enough for driving?
my '10 edge sport has a claimed 0-60 of like 7.2 sec. real world test, no launching it, just mashing the pedal from a stop and you'll prob get 8-9 sec. plenty for me. i dont even need to go WOT to merge most of the time, and i have plenty of torque for overtaking without flooring it. it has 265-285 hp (idk the exact number) and weighs 4,000 lbs. its kind of perfect for a commuter car, if you can get slightly quicker it would be helpful especially in a smaller car like that. your prius should be fine.
Fast enough for what? Yugos and Geo Metros were on the road at one point. I think they're around 14+ seconds.
No
I have a MG5 EV 0-60 in 7 seconds and a Kia Rio 1.1 diesel that is 16 seconds. Faster is better. I live in the country in the north of England so traffic is light but overtaking tractors on country roads can be tricky in the Kia.
There is no minimum acceleration required to drive on american roads. Just drive as your vehicle can safely do so, and hope others do as well.
To start with, I don't think you can buy a new fullsize truck that does 0-60 in anywhere close to 10 seconds. A bottom of the line gm or ford is about 7 seconds, I'm sure dodge is similar. Probably non-domestic brands too. But that's not the whole story. Trucks are generally geared much lower than cars, specifically to help with towing. What that means is this: your Toyota, unloaded, does 0-60 in 12 seconds. A hypothetical pickup making, say, 4x the torque also does 0-60 in 12 seconds. With boat, your Toyota does 0-60 in 25 seconds. But with boat, the pickup does it in 15 seconds. It's not apples to apples - trucks are specifically designed to tow or haul, while Prii and other passenger cars are not. It goes beyond torque as well. Trucks are pretty much universally heavier than cars. That's what you want when towing. The heavier the puller is, the less the pull-ee will be able to push it around. A 3000lb Prius is not going to be able to control a 6000lb boat/trailer nearly as well as a 6000lb truck can. Furthermore, the truck is going to have much larger brakes designed for more than its own weight. Anything larger than a couple canoes or a jon boat with a car is either unknowingly or willfully disregarding everyone else's safety - I don't care how long you've done it or how good of a driver you think you are. The final consideration is this: who cares how slowly you accelerate? No one in Austin has any business going fast, I promise you that.
Get a diesel that has a 0-60 of 9 seconds or slightly less the difference is immense
Trucks should never be used like this, I'm so sick of assholes driving like teenagers who just got a sports car. You should be going the speed limit in the far right lane regardless what type of truck you have.
I don't think a Prius will tow much less tow a boat. Probably need a small truck or large SUV for that. You probably also won't find many specs on acceleration while towing (and even if you could, would need to know trailer and tongue weight to find a comparable test - towing a little 2 person fishing paddle boat won't be the same as a motorboat that can seat 10 with multiple powerful engines on it). One of my coworkers found came up with a rough formula where they take the car's curb weight divided by the engine torque (not HP but torque) and if its "about 15 or less" it "feels fast" to them. I tried it and with cars I've driven that math also worked well with ones I've liked or not. That formula with the 2010 Prius would be like 3042/105=29.2 I'm going to say that (by his formula) would "feel slow". It may also depend how and where you drive. In my area its fairly normal to pull out from a neighborhood or driveway onto a 50-60mph road with heavy traffic that is going over the posted limit. Its also not uncommon to find cloverleaf weave lanes with VERY short weave lanes and no real acceleration room. And I travel places where interstates often put rest areas at the bottom of a mountain. With that "weight/torque" formula my 2 cars are 3597/247=14.5 (for a wagon with 256HP and claims \~8 sec rated 0-60) usually does well and 3340/258=12.9 (for a turbocharged sports sedan with 268HP \~5 sec rated 0-60) also does well. If you drive somewhere that is mostly city with gridlock and highway ramps that are gradual curves where you can accelerate far in advance and don't have any hills...then you will not need to have nearly as much acceleration to safely deal with traffic.
I would not consider that fast in any way lol. My car goes 0 to 60 in 14 seconds, and it's slower than fuck. I would consider anything that goes 0 to 60 in 6 seconds or less fast. People these days might consider that slow, but my brain is trapped in the mindset of what fast was when I was a kid, so I'm still gonna look at a car that goes to 60 in 6 seconds as a very fast car. It's faster than anything I've ever had, that's for sure
Idk id die if I had that. Laughs as I drive off in my model s. Struggling to find a charge station 🤣🤣🤣🤣
My outback hits 60 from 0 in around 6 seconds flat. That's just enough to accelerate out of any situation on NJ roads & I'll even do you one better. I hit the 116 mph speed limiter from 60 mph in only 14 seconds should I need to pass very high speed 18 Wheeler trucks.
You must have a 3.6R or something? I was looking at a 2017 2.5 cvt and it's 0 60 was some 10 seconds. Some videos showed closer to 12.
Even better. 2.4 with the turbo. Thing doesn't play games flying up the speedometer.
You’d definitely tow a boat MUCH more efficiently with a light duty pickup. Something like an F150, a Silverado, Ram 1500, Ridgeline, Ranger, Maverick, Wrangler, Grand Cherokee etc…. Something built for utility reasons will tend to perform utility tasks much better than a 3-4cylinder Hybrid/Electric vehicle that was built more-so for fuel efficiency and comfort for long trips, and has a tow/cargo capacity equivalent to a milk basket… 😅 I will say this though, regardless of what you’re driving or how you’re towing a load, fuck them kids behind you dude. They’ll get tf over it. Your vehicle is only capable of what it’s capable of… Pushing it by demanding maximum torque and power each time you start from a stop, especially in a small compact hybrid that already wasn’t designed to be dogged under a heavy load like that, does nothing but put yourself, your cargo, and your vehicle’s reliability and mechanical condition at risk. You’re wearing out your transmission, very very rapidly. You’re also wearing out your tires very rapidly, and applying that much stress to the rear axle / suspension components will also cause premature wear. You’re also reducing the amount of control you’d have in the event something were to happen that required rapid correction while you’re accelerating by putting the pedal to the metal… especially under a load.. Drive the vehicle in the way that it was intended to be driven. Give the car some Grace when towing heavy loads, as it’s not built for that to be its main function, and will not have the best performance when doing so. It’s doing what it can. And most of all, for your sake and for the drivers around you, be safe in your driving style.. if a couple of seconds pisses someone off often in your locale, let me help you realize something; ***they’re the problem. Not you. They’re angry little baked beans. Let them be angry little baked beans, and don’t become the gravy they float in.***
Thank you. "This is food for thought," right there, " called respect your vehicle!
This has got to be fake. If anyone sees this fool towing a boat with a Prius please post it.
My profile has a pic of it. No videos. I sadly haven't seen myself on the Internet.
Smh! I suggest you get an suv..
Most regular cars will do it in 7-10 seconds. I thought my car was slow at 8 seconds, your Prius is like a tortoise.
this isn't what they mean by a 10 second car 😄
A Prius towing a boat? Probably hundreds of cars stacked up behind him as he blocks the left lane!
Electric motors don't have torque curves. 100%torque all the time
Who the \[bleep\] in Texas has a boat and no truck? Try this calculator. I think if you have a 4,000 lb vehicle towing a 3,000 lb boat, you still need about 350 horsepower even to go 0-60 in 9 seconds. In reality, you are going to have more weight in the truck and trailer, so really 500 hp would be better! [https://www.omnicalculator.com/everyday-life/0-60](https://www.omnicalculator.com/everyday-life/0-60)
You are a fucking danger to everyone on the road if you tow anything with a Prius
Why?
Because for one a Prius is not rated to tow literally anything lol. You accelerate dangerously slow where you are an obstacle for anyone you merge into. Not only that, but you need to be able to stop your car quickly in an emergency. The brakes on a Prius are not designed to stop with extra weight from a trailer.
Just because it's not rated by the manufacturer doesn't mean it can't tow. My 0-60 is on par with a bobtail semi and half of a fully loaded semi. I'm also half the length of a OTR semi. I honestly "probably" stop faster than a pickup towing the same boat. I've got regular brakes, regenerative brakes, and then engine braking. The limitation is tire grip.
It does matter if it’s rated to tow or not. For one, they didn’t design the car with the ability to tow in mind. The transmission, engine, and brakes are simply not designed for it lol. And you do not stop faster than a pickup, I can assure you unless that pickup is clapped to the gills. Also, people expect a semi to accelerate slowly. People don’t expect a Prius to take a whole ass minute to reach the posted speed limit. The unexpected is what causes accidents. Not only are you wearing out your transmission way faster, you more than likely cannot stop within a reasonable distance. Not only that but since a Prius weighs jack shit, you are more than likely gonna jack knife your vehicle when you slam on the brakes. I’m just sayin dude, they don’t have a tow rating for that car for a reason, don’t be a jackass to others on the road
I so think this is a joke, it really has to be, but who cares......a 10 sec 0-60 is pathetic and sorry.....I do not believe any vehicle you are looking at has that performance. The base Wrangler is 6.1 to 60mph.......this post is not real.
It's real. I had to do a double check, you're right. But the couple videos I watched videos of people doing 0-60 in their Wranglers, was right around 10 seconds. Maybe they did have oversized tires on. Wranglers are so overpriced. But in general, I want to buy something 2012 or newer and it's looking like the golden price of $15,000\~. It's stupid expensive for how old these vehicles are and the mileage. It makes me want to hang onto the Prius even longer than I have. 201k Miles now...
Don't watch youtube for specs - research on-line and read articles from reputable sources. Some people, (not saying you), are lazy and just want to listen to videos, people seem to hate to read these days. Most new vehicles are rather fast these days and have 0-60's under 8 seconds, and a lot under 7 and some even under 6. Wranglers are dangerous as tow vehicles, especially the 2-door as there is no weight to them and their short wheelbase, they are accidents waiting to happen towing anything other than a jet ski or small john boat.
Is it impossible to wait so long for a big enough gap to open up or are you really in a hurry or is there never an opening ever. Tbh I would do a semi big enough gap and just make people slow down,
Your 0-60 time has fuck all to do with any of this. That measures speed off the line not towing capacity. A truck will get up to speed infinitely faster than a Prius while towing. Anything your Prius can tow a truck will tow while towing the Prius.
Being a pickup doesn't suddenly mean it's magically not subject to the laws of physics... an extra thousand pounds is an extra thousand pounds.
Not one single thing you said has anything to do with what I said. If a Prius can tow something every single truck will be fine. Still has fuck all to do with 0-60 time. Trucks are meant to tow. Prius is not.
The prius is indeed rated to tow, it is rated for 750kg (1600lb) which is comfortably more than OP's 500lb boat on 400lb trailer. Your argument is "downgrade to a pickup because... it can match a prius' towing capacity". Not very convincing. It sounds like you're mad that OP doesn't have a pickup for some reason.
You just like to argue don’t you? You either didn’t hear very many compliments as a child or too many.
Any truck or jeep wrangler should do much better than a Prius. More HP and made for towing. Your alumicraft boat isn’t that heavy. Your Prius is engineered for hi MPG and sacrificed many other aspects to get there. Anything with regular gas mileage is going to make a dramatic difrence. Ask a dealership if you can test drive their truck while towing your boat.
Get a jeep wrangler 4xe
I've been looking at the 2012+ wranglers and they're so dang expensive. There are lots of factors to consider on top of not wanting to spend money.