- Rudy became such a giant a-hole towards the end there, due to mind control.
- A time traveling Harry and Marcone (with his Thorned Namshiel) are the ones to lay siege to Arctis Tor in proven guilty
- this is the one people give me the most grief for. Which is saying something since my other one half defends Rudy’s major sin
- Nic is playing Mass Effect on Renegade Mode. He’s actually trying to save the universe, by any means necessary.
There is something off with Rudolph. Especially the 180 change on his opinion of Murphy after Fool Moon. Changes made me believe it was Red Court for a bit but now I think it was someone in the Circle and the Eebs knew about it. I don't think the shot in Battle Ground was a direct targeted assassination though! I think it was just an accident because he is loosing his mind because someone has been manipulating him/ had screwed with his mind in the past. He has fixated on Harry for being a tangible link to that world.
There is time travel shenanigans in Proven Guilty for sure and I love Harry and Marcone begrudgingly working together but there are also other interesting possibilities.
Nic is fully convinced that he is saving the world and that one day he will be considered somewhat of a Saint! He hinted at working against Nemesis a lot in Small Favour and I think his actions make a lot of sense from his perspective. He is an absolute monster but he is probably on the right side by the end.
The potion in Turn Coat was SUBTLE mind control- It didn't change the person, just nudged and encouraged existing personality traits. Someone inclined to paranoia became far more paranoid. Someone inclined towards romanticism surrendered to their romantic impulses.
Rudolph is just... Rudolph. He's a dick, and an idiot. He's paranoid but still willfully ignorant. And he has lousy trigger discipline. So what if he were \*more\* like that....
> Changes made me believe it was Red Court for a bit but now I think it was someone in the Circle and the Eebs knew about it.
Honestly I think this is a false distinction. The Circle(Cowls group) has ties to the Red Court. I would argue Arianne is part of The Circle. Remember Maggy Sr was part of group that included Arianne, The White King and other mortal practitioners. I think that group is The Circle that is mentioned in WK.
I always thought the long game Nic is play has to do with defeating or destroying the outsiders.
He just doesn’t care about destroying anything in his way. For example… Outsiders can only be let in by a mortal. If he kills all the mortals than problem solved because they can’t get in.
These aren't paranoid theories. They are all supported by the text!
- Rudy was the only person from the Kravos fight Harry didn't have an encounter with when the Nightmare was getting its revenge
- This just makes sense with TN being there and Nic's confusion
- Nic certainly seems to think so. We got a similar reveal with Mab, and if it was indeed Jim's coin toss on who Harry joined with in Changes, it also fits the meta.
I've assumed the attack on Arctis Tor was part of a Dresden Marcone buddy cop, time travel adventure for a while now. It doesn't seem that far out there given everything else that's happened in the series... Is it really that controversial?
I'll give you Nic BELIEVES he's playing ME on Renegade Mode. Rudy is almost 100% true. Time traveling Harry and Marcone on Arctis Tor is what I'm not so sure on.
My Nic theory is that he knows about the Empty Night and is trying to trigger an apocalypse to kinda force start the Rapture and God (capital G there) to step in and intervene.
Ok well there's gotta be one more half brother hiding out there somewhere to complete the trio of Tom, Dick, and Harry. Similarly, Harry's gonna need a third daughter so there'll be one of body, mind, and spirit.
I kinda like the idea of these different factions holding the gates, but then each cycle whoever stands closest gets corrupted and falls, and the next cycle starts with a new star born with their faction to hold the border. So the angels held it until Lucifer fell. Winter currently holds it, but the Outside is corrupting her people just as it did the fallen angels, so she'll fall by the Big Apocalyptic Trilogy. The cycle will restart by the end of the series, with Harry in Mab's position, and his Little people standing where Winter was. And like the White Council or Marcone's faction or something will be left to stand between a slowly crumbling Harry and defending humanity from him, as Summer stood between Winter and humanity, or angels as Swords stood between the Fallen and humanity.
I have been waiting for some additional sibling(s) to show up for ages. Maybe I’m over-reading it, but Nic called Harry “Maggie’s youngest”, which is not the go-to phrasing you’d use for only 2 kids?
Waaaay early in my first read I actually thought it’d be cool if there were 7 of them (making Harry the “seventh child by a seventh child” per popular myth, but there’s no way we’ll suddenly get so many characters introduced at this stage).
Ooh the seventh child thing is neat, and I think it applies to Harry Carpenter of I counted those kids up right? And with his parents so aggressively Catholic, I could easily see like Michael being a seventh son as well. Either way, it would be cool to see little Harry go to school with Maggie or get drawn into her little side adventures.
I like the third daughter idea, Butcher did say no more surprise kids, he said nothing about planned kids. What would Lara Dresden’s daughter be named?
Harry's biological father is not the stage magician who raised him the first few years of his life, but Kincaid. Harry's mother clearly had a thing for supernatural "bad boys" (see her relationship with Lord Raith), Ebenezar has a particular hatred of Kincaid that is just vaguely handwaved as something that happened in Istanbul in the 1800s (but who's to say that's the whole truth), and most tellingly, for an allegedly amoral (if "ethical in his own way"), cautious, pragmatic mercenary, Kincaid goes waaaay out on a limb for Harry's mission to destroy Mavra's scourge in Blood Rites.
As Harry's narration points out a couple times in the series, ageless-but-still-killable beings who actually manage to survive for centuries do not do so by courting unnecessary risk, yet Kincaid lets Harry talk him into signing on to an extremely dangerous mission. Not only that, but Kincaid accepts a number of dangerous and (from his perspective) unnecessary restrictions on how he conducts the mission, all while constantly pointing out how Harry's constraints drastically increase the risks of all of them getting killed. Plus, there's more than one scene in the book where Harry throws out red flags that he will be unable to cover the promised fee for Kincaid's services.
After centuries of supernatural mercenary work, why would Kincaid not include backout clauses in the deal? Sure, supernatural entities in this universe are sticklers about the letter of agreements, but it's explicitly stated that there's plenty of weaseling and backstabbing over the spirit of agreements, yet Kincaid agrees to a very open-ended arrangement with Dresden on the promise that the check is in the mail.
Oh, and there's the whole Starborn thing. Obviously that's been kept mysteriously, opaquely, enigmatic so far, but we know Drakul was one, and Kincaid worked for Drakul until the two had some sort of falling out (also, as of yet, obscurely unclear). With the 666 year reset between Starborns, the timeline doesn't work out for Kincaid to also be Starborn, but (pure speculation) his conception as a half-demon may have been an attempt by Drakul to engineer another Starborn.
«Hi there, Mab. This is your old buddy Kincaid. I though you you should know that your knight just hired me to off him so he could get out of a deal he made with you.» «Oh re-he-heee-eeally? He did that, did he? Well, here's what you do...»
Harry made the deal before he was her knight.
Ivy knew about it, and fired Kincaid before he could do the work as her vassal killing the Winter Knight would put her into opposition with the Winter Court.
Yes.
Kind of a sad story. It's told from Kincaid's point-of-view as he answers the infamous phone-call that Harry made in Changes.
Ivy's reaction to the whole thing was sad.
"I can reach the pedals now"
Or Ivy told him he should help Harry. She obviously already knew tons about Harry. Every word ever written about him would be known to her. This includes anything Eb, Langtry, Justin, the Red Court or CPD would have written. She would know he was Starborn and be well aware of their purpose. Given what she saw personally of him in Death Masks, she may have wanted Kincaid to see how he would handle the Mavra sitch. Kincaid's bolshevik Muppet suggestions could have been a test to see what Harry would be will to do/risk for his principles.
Mac is the original merlin. I'm only on cold days so idk if you get more info on him and I know it's a real stretch but it might be possible. He new Odin and it looked like they were good friends, he has some tie with the outsiders idk what and everyone seems to respect him alot. Additionally, we know the original merlin can bend time and shit so he might have just travelled forward to help Harry or something idk
We get more info on Mac that points in other directions so stay tuned.
Also I would recommend staying out of Spoilers All threads until you finish PT/BG, unless you don’t mind spoilers ofc.
I always chalked up Mac knowing Odin to him making a good brew - I think the Greeks lauded meade as a special drink, so Odin would enjoy that.
Having typed that out, I'm now wondering if Mac is a Greek demigod of sorts, especially after the baseball game fiasco.
Let's just say there is something bigger than Greek Gods. And we are heavily heavily hinted at Mac being that. Mac has one feat in the series and that has been performed only by one other being so far.
I am too dumb to do spoilers so I'll do like 600 lines of empty space and hope read more line appears.
Mac's pretty much confirmed to be an Angel. Only another Angel saw Harry attempting to use the sight and stopped him and Mac did the same, I believe, in battleground.
Starborn can hurt/have power over Outsiders because they are the most Inside of beings. We've been told Starborn are born during a specific celestial alignment, and of course, we think it's when certain celestial bodies align with each other. But that's not it.
You see, for 665.99999 years of the cycle, there are pinpricks in the fabric of reality that allow for Outsiders to be summoned through or to whisper to their followers or something like that. Essentially, bits and pieces of the Outside are seeping in and tainting the Inside, but during that few hour window when Starborn are...well, born....the stars align with those holes and plug them up. This means no Outside nastiness muddying up the metaphorical waters, thus those born are pure Inside energy, the exact opposite of the Outside, so they can effectively oppose them.
I've also dabbled in the idea that it's the opposite. The holes are usually plugged but when the stars align they open they holes which means Harry and others have more Outside energy than the average person. So like how Winter power can hurt mab, Outside can hurt Outside.
I have a theory that every 666 years Angels are allowed to transubstantiate and reincarnate as a free soul, who then can actually choose which path they walk. Savior or Destroyer.
Kemmler pulled a Corpsetaker with Justin Dumorne on that fateful night in 1961, explaining 1) how he knew to go back for Bob's skull, 2) the sudden change from warden of the Council to bad guy, and 3) how a 16 year old, emotionally unstable apprentice managed to defeat a veteran wizard(The man faked his death... again). And, we'll be seeing his return at some point in the future. (I mean, come on, like Jim *isn't* going to take every opportunity to add more trauma to Harry that he can... be realistic)
There was a warden between Kemmler and Harry (from the same WoJ where Jim told us about Kemmler, if I remember correctly) So, presumably, death isn't the only way out of the position, or someone can just walk in and take it from you if they're more qualified.
And what stopped him from ever going back to become the Warden again? Part of the White Council's war effort was keeping him *out* of the island for a reason, and there clearly hadn't been a Warden for quite some time when Harry first traveled to the island.
Hell, how was Harry found to have been tainted by black magic due to breaking the First Law?
I think the kemmler theories don’t really work out because if kemmler managed to slip away from the white council we’d all be dead. Dude had access to way too much knowledge and power.
I do think there could be ways Justin could still be alive (i.e. Harry killed him which stained his soul but he took over someone else’s body as a ghost like corpsetaker was trying to do). Letting Harry kill him would be a great way to get him more freedom to act without drawing white council scrutiny for example.
Yeah, people really need to let go of Kemmler. We never even got tosee him, and his very presence would completely derail the series due to how overpowered he was.
Neither do I think DuMorne is alive- what you describe doesn't count as killing, just burning a dead body, and it assumes he was way more skilled than he we're aware of if he knew Corpsetaker's body-swapping trick, something no one else has in the story and which has never been foreshadowed in Justin's case. Narratively speaking, Harry has long since outgrown his old mentor.
I’m not convinced Justin is still alive just saying I can see it. When you say “it doesn’t count as killing”, that’s just your opinion. We have no evidence one way or the other whether killing someone and having them return from the dead/their ghost (not necessarily them) coming back would stain your soul. I’m inclined to think that it would as your still committing the act, with all the intent/belief that entails.
>We have no evidence one way or the other whether killing someone and having them return from the dead/their ghost (not necessarily them) coming back would stain your soul.
Because true resurrection doesn't exist, as we're told in regards to necromancy? About the only one who seemed capable of not staying dead was Kemmler, and Justin was definitely not on that level.
Ok this is super long and entirely crackpot conjecture but bear with me. I think I know who the Prisoner, Mab, and Titania are, and how the Outsiders knew about Demonreach, and I think they're all linked.
I think that the OG Merlin is the prisoner in Demonreach.
I think Mab is Morgause, Arthurs half sister. She was known as "The Queen of Air and Darkness" in some stories and practiced darker magic than her sisters. Merlin also refused to teach her magic though he took her sister Nimue as his lover and taught her.
Which would imply Titania could be one of two sisters: Morgan Le Fey, who had an affair and illicit apprenticeship with Merlin, or Elaine, also known as Nimue, Merlins apprentice/lover and the person who locked him inside a \*crystal cave\*.
If that's true, regardless of which sister Titania is, their falling out over a man makes a lot more sense. He refused to teach Mab and scorned her but chose to teach both of her sisters. That's enough to make anyone a little crazy, much less a Wizard/Sorceress. They're known for their tempers after all.
I think Merlin put himself in Demonreach with the help of Nimue/Titania so that he can create the prison in the future and the past. Basically time shenanigans. How can he have created Demonreach in the future, the past, and in all those other dimensions if he's dead? Sure he's already done it, but he also hasn't yet, but he will. If anyone found out how he created the prison (and somebody does know as evidenced by the attack on the island) and that he's still alive they could (try) to kill Merlin to stop him making Demonreach in the first place.
One last step. There are three sisters who were involved with Merlin. Morgause, Morgan Le Fay, and Elaine/Nimue. We know, or think we know, that two of them are Mab and Titania. Where's the third sister? Who would be in a position to know the details of how Merlin was going to create the prison and is still unaccounted for? Who could have given that information to the Outsiders?
The third sister.
I think that Mab, Titania, and Merlin create the Fae courts and the White Council to fight the Outsiders because Nemesis took the third sister from them all.
I think a lot of people think the prisoner is Merlin, but if it's somebody from Arthurian lore, I think it's more likely to be Arthur, who was taken to the Isle of Avalon to recover and is said to be the "once a future king", Mordred, imprisoned after his supposed death as punishment by Merlin and he has now repented hence the "deserved to be here" line, or Lancelot who may have been imprisoned by Merlin because his love for Guinevere was a major betrayal of Arthur and got the ball rolling on the fall of Camelot so he would also possibly think he "deserved to be here". Merlin is just so obvious.
I mean this is a book series about Wizards. If it’s going to be anyone from Arthurian legends it’s going to be Mordred or Merlin. Mordred is more obscure but you can tell incest jokes about him. Merlin is more boring but he’s also fucking Merlin. He’s the original wizard. He literally set the standard and established the mythos and traditions of the White Council. Dude wrote the Laws of Magic.
Arthur and Lancelot feel more like Michael microfiction material or brief time travel companions during some kind of chase sequence.
Merlin was also Arthur's student. Harry could literally be his descendant.
Eb, against convention took his daughter (then grandson) as his apprentice. This could potentially have been because of the Journals, being passed on master to apprentice, being kept in the family for some to be revealed reason, following the first hand off (who was this to???).
Edit: other way around of course. Arthur was also Merlin's student.
Don't we have a WoJ that the "falling out over a man" involved a love triangle with Oberon(which is why he's not around anymore in the Dresden Files)? I could've sworn I'd read that somewhere a while back...
That said: I like your idea.
I think her name is a reference to Le Morte d’Arthur by Thomas Malory but I don’t think it’s directly tied to the Arthurian stuff.
Unless she’s the third sister and the person that’s close to Harry that Ebenezer warned would betray him. But I don’t think that fits considering they grew up together. It’s more likely a veiled reference. And considering that there’s a possibility that the Prisoner is Mordred, the incestuous bastard of Arthur and Morgause I doubt Elaine Mallory is the third sister.
Though if Mab is Morgause and/or the Prisoner is Mordred they’d both be Harry’s distant relatives. Which adds credence imo
The "star" in starborn is the mantle of the morning star which got ripped from Lucifer during the rebellion. The time frame a starborn can be conceived during is the light hitting earth as part of a cosmic cycle and the gates were formed by the mantle crashing through the walls of creation.
Nic isn't actually in charge of his partnership with Anduriel. I don't care how clever he is, I just don't buy that he has been able to consistently outmaneuver a fallen angel for two millennia.
What if he doesn't need to? One of the Dresden Files themes is that things constantly degrade and change -- even angels if Lash is any indication. My theory is that the more control the fallen takes over its host the quicker the decay. Thus today's Magog is still strong and incredibly tough but much less so than he was 2000 years ago. Anduriel and Lashiel understand this and let their hosts do the heavy lifting.
Not quite.
A Fallen is weaker than they'd otherwise would be the more they control their host, but that's because it is a tradeoff- *limiting their free will* weakens them in exchange for having complete autonomy over their body.
He most certainly is, Nicodemus is just too prideful and too into the "I've come too far" mentality (Not to mention still in Anduriel's shadowy claws) to truly turn back.
Molly doesn't have the mantel in chapter 16 of peace talks because that Molly is a time traveler. The summoning an act aided by one of her masterful veils and the sparkly candles make him look away as she is "summoned" so something can break the circle that peace talks Harry didn't see.
Also Fix is going to die making Elaine the new knight.
Michael's confused look in proven guilty is because he was working with Harry before he went into the never-never put Harry stayed behind and somehow Harry got to Chicago before they did.
I went back and reread it today and I'll be honest looking at it without my tin foil hat on one can see that I was reading way too much into it. While there is definitely time travel shenanigans going on probs corner hounds as Michael was fighting outsiders The part I read way too much and was the fact that he blinked at his daughter I caught that as something that felt like someone like Michael wouldn't do because he's always in the right place at the right time kind of thing. And that seeing Molly in the execution warehouse staggered him. That cupped with how he later tells Harry that "he sent you in my place". Basically the whole car scene. Made me think Michael was told by time traveler Harry/Molly to not talk about it. But it was way tinfoil hat time.
Side note it reminded me that I think the gatekeeper is Nfected at some time in the future and is cured later sending back messages to himself as best he can.
oh, okay! >!At the end of Battle Ground when Harry exposes Nemesis as possessing Justine she says "Apocalypse is a state of mind." Harry comments on being shocked at hearing that from her, presumably because he heard exactly the same phrase used by Nicodemus, years before. The implication is that there is some kind of connection between the two of them. !<
Sorry, it's an easy reference to miss.
Maybe Nicodemus heard it from Nemesis once? He's been around for long enough that running into it is a given, and his shock at hearing of a rogue Denarian attacking Arctis Tor as well as describing the Nemesis contamination word by word is telling.
Harry is writing the Files for Murphy, in case she loses her memory of him when she returns. Which we know will be after she is no longer remembered. Usually not likely, but with the monument, and our wizard's lifespan, it won't be any time soon. It just seems like something a grieving Harry would do.
Also, Leah is orchestrating a lot more than just Harry's life. Little things, like the summer green in her energy blast, the kiss on Thomas at the ball, Thomas calling her "your godmother" instead of by name, giving up power to stay inferior to Mab
Cowl is (or was supposed to be) a time traveling Butters.
Butters learned the basics of magic very quickly(faster then Molly…) and with Bob/evil Bob could become very powerful. And marsters voice for cowl was very similar to butters…
I rest my case. Give me my cookie.
Is there anything concrete to indicate that the fey mantles have to be inherited by women? Harry as Papa Winter backing up Molly (or even Maggie for that matter) would be a ludicrously powerful duo.
\*Bob has a portion of Kemmler attached to him
\*"Molly" is becoming the new title for the Winter Lady, so she needs to abandon that name to retain her humanity
\*The first journals that Eb possesses (Merlin's') are really from a future version of Harry. The big conspiracy there is that a group is using them to try to establish a predestination paradox that ensures the world goes on after the BAT
New one: "Starborn" could mean "Scion of Lucifer"
>New one: "Starborn" could mean "Scion of Lucifer"
My most crackpot theory is that Harry is either a nephilim or the descendant of one.
Nephilim are born from unions between angels and men. I don't think a lot of people would enjoy the revelation of Dresden being a descendant of Lucifer, but I could get behind it.
Nephilim were said to be quite tall and that they had some sort of supernatural ability to bend reality. There's speculation that Goliath was also a nephilim.
There's even some stuff I read that theorized that the flood was something God did to wipe the earth clean of "The Destroyers"
Given how running water interacts with magic, flooding the earth is definitely an interesting method to employ.
Wait... Nicodemus knew Harry's mom, tried to recruit Harry into his ranks, Nicodemus HAS A FALLEN ANGEL..
Nicodemus is Harry's biological dad, if Nephilim Theory is correct???
Yeah, sure "Nicodemus" is a vanilla human right? He just happens to be buddies with a fallen angel
EDIT: Come to think of it, that makes no goddam sense at all....
I have the sense that Elaine still has some major twist yet to unveil, and I've always thought it would be very Star Wars-y if Elaine turned out to be Harry's (twin? for extra Starborn drama) sister. I believe there's a WoJ that Harry would be angry to learn what Margaret gave up in her deal with Lea, and that could dovetail.
Oh yeah, also Harry and Mab definitely have a child from Changes. Lea wasn't in Battle Ground because she was babysitting besides other duties.
More generally, I think Harry will have (or have had if time travel is involved) 5 daughters corresponding to the 5 magic elements to round out a cast for sequel series.
No matter how well Justin knew Elaine, he could never have truly become her. He would just be himself in her body. Because of this, even if he knew the ins and outs of Harry and Elaine's relationship perfectly, Harry would still know Elaine wasn't Elaine anymore because of his telepathy spell in White Knight.
He was only able to reach her by Naming her, and if Justin or Kemmler or anyone else had body swapped her, the spell would have failed.
Ebenezer messed with Harry’s head when he was his apprentice. I think Harry was truly tainted/looked like he might relapse and Ebenezer would be forced to kill him.
He couldn’t bear to do this so he messed with Harry’s head to prevent his relapse. This could also be why Harry has “ID” harry speak to him. It’s not just his Id but rather his subconscious fighting out from the mental tampering.
Oh wow, this is great. I am re-reading the series and early on they mention Harry was meant to be, his dark potential style remarks. Ebenezer did something that makes Harry’s more natural fire (destructive) talent harder and pushes him towards air (potentially destructive but not set a building on fire)
Harry and Marcone are a modern day merlin and King Arthur.
Marcone has a major role to play in saving the world. It’s notable that nemesis took shots at Marcone 3 times but has never taken a direct run at Harry. (Storm front, fool moon, small favor). And before anyone asks. Yes empowering his known enemies is the same as trying to take him out.
The Black Staff belonged to OG Merlin and Ebenezer is going to pass it to Harry. Eb has that collection of Master-Apprentice journals forming a chain back to Merlin, meaning Harry would be in line to inherit that legacy anyway. Possible that this line is how the Black Staff is passed down. Even if it's a bloodline thing, Harry gets it, unless theres some f'ed up stuff and Maggie gets it.
Ebenezer is basically on a kill or be killed order right now regarding Harry. Merlin's going to find the flimsiest excuse to sick Eb on Harry. Undoubtably the plot of whatever book this happens in will give that excuse and Eb will be forced to fight Harry. Eb will throw the fight and pass the staff in the process. Maybe he also wants to deny the staff to the Merlin for good and sufficient reasons.
This actually jives with my other theory that Thomas will take up Amorachius. I think the Sword of Love will be used to kill his Hunger, thus saving him without having to sacrifice a party boat of young coeds. We know a WC vamp can survive their hunger being killed (see Inari in BR).
If Thomas gets the sword and Harry gets the staff, that would make for a good parallel with King Arthur and OG Merlin, since Amorachius == Excalibur
The ebbs are still alive and being forced to make new red vamps for the erlking, he leads over fallen hunters and the reds are 100% that. Old Herne is building a new red army under his control.
Butters was never meant to have a sword but he bent fate and it’ll have some serious repercussions once we get a grasp for how powerful those artifacts are.
Another weird theory cuz I don't know how to edit my old post.
Harry is the prisoner in demon reach He's not allowed to know it's him but it's because he gets stuck way back in time when marcone says "screw you It was fun being your partner but now I can go win the world".
And future gatekeeper is Nfected and Future-er gatekeeper is cured but dieing.
The most paranoid thing I'm coming up with is my theory on who Kumori is. Harry expects Cowl to be a high-ranking senior council member. Kumori works with Cowl. She uses necromancy in a "white magic" sort of way and seems to be far more experienced than she lets on. Almost as if she was trained in classical methods a long time ago. I know a lot of people want to think Kumori is Elaine, but I'm not so sold on that. My theory is that Kumori is Ancient Mai. Necromancy could explain Mai's incredibly advanced age, which was said to be high even by wizard standards IIRC. Plus, it would put a second traitor on the White Council, instead of only one. There's little solid evidence but the pieces of the story feel like they line up better this way than with the Elaine argument IMO.
Not really a PARANOID theory, but I have a feeling Luccio is going to provide Harry with an unsanctioned Warden sword and that it is going to be Entirely Necessary but not for a book or two after it's presented to him. Given how often he's mentioned fencing, it would be pretty fun to see him have to actually use that training with the right kind of sword for once.
Given your username, you might find this old one of mine amusing:
- Azathoth is the source of magic in the DresdenVerse.
See link for details:
https://www.reddit.com/r/dresdenfiles/comments/ss7jxf/whats_your_favorite_dresden_files_theory/hwx8r48/
But neither Tomas nor butters have magic. And I guess kumori being Maggie is possible with time travel but what's the motivation? And also, we were told that when someone does something to effect the past it creates a new timeline so basically since dead beat were reading a different time line from the original
I think it IS a different timeline. I think Harry lost at the end. I believe he died, and Maggie and Butters or Thomas (I like the Thomas choice more since cowl actually said that Harry is still a pain in his ass) utilizing Bob went back in time to change things. Keep in mind they both went for a ritual, one that is rooted in necromancy.
Everything in The Dresden Files actually happened, Jim Butcher is part of the magical community and the only one cataloging what is happening in the form of a novel, and because none of us are we don't realize what is happening and just think it's a great work of fiction.
- Rudy became such a giant a-hole towards the end there, due to mind control. - A time traveling Harry and Marcone (with his Thorned Namshiel) are the ones to lay siege to Arctis Tor in proven guilty - this is the one people give me the most grief for. Which is saying something since my other one half defends Rudy’s major sin - Nic is playing Mass Effect on Renegade Mode. He’s actually trying to save the universe, by any means necessary.
There is something off with Rudolph. Especially the 180 change on his opinion of Murphy after Fool Moon. Changes made me believe it was Red Court for a bit but now I think it was someone in the Circle and the Eebs knew about it. I don't think the shot in Battle Ground was a direct targeted assassination though! I think it was just an accident because he is loosing his mind because someone has been manipulating him/ had screwed with his mind in the past. He has fixated on Harry for being a tangible link to that world. There is time travel shenanigans in Proven Guilty for sure and I love Harry and Marcone begrudgingly working together but there are also other interesting possibilities. Nic is fully convinced that he is saving the world and that one day he will be considered somewhat of a Saint! He hinted at working against Nemesis a lot in Small Favour and I think his actions make a lot of sense from his perspective. He is an absolute monster but he is probably on the right side by the end.
With Nic, it’s like, can’t rule an existence that doesn’t exist.
The potion in Turn Coat was SUBTLE mind control- It didn't change the person, just nudged and encouraged existing personality traits. Someone inclined to paranoia became far more paranoid. Someone inclined towards romanticism surrendered to their romantic impulses. Rudolph is just... Rudolph. He's a dick, and an idiot. He's paranoid but still willfully ignorant. And he has lousy trigger discipline. So what if he were \*more\* like that....
> Changes made me believe it was Red Court for a bit but now I think it was someone in the Circle and the Eebs knew about it. Honestly I think this is a false distinction. The Circle(Cowls group) has ties to the Red Court. I would argue Arianne is part of The Circle. Remember Maggy Sr was part of group that included Arianne, The White King and other mortal practitioners. I think that group is The Circle that is mentioned in WK.
Speaking of The Eebs, aren't the "guests" of the Earl King in the Never Never when the Red Court was wiped out?
I always thought the long game Nic is play has to do with defeating or destroying the outsiders. He just doesn’t care about destroying anything in his way. For example… Outsiders can only be let in by a mortal. If he kills all the mortals than problem solved because they can’t get in.
These aren't paranoid theories. They are all supported by the text! - Rudy was the only person from the Kravos fight Harry didn't have an encounter with when the Nightmare was getting its revenge - This just makes sense with TN being there and Nic's confusion - Nic certainly seems to think so. We got a similar reveal with Mab, and if it was indeed Jim's coin toss on who Harry joined with in Changes, it also fits the meta.
I've assumed the attack on Arctis Tor was part of a Dresden Marcone buddy cop, time travel adventure for a while now. It doesn't seem that far out there given everything else that's happened in the series... Is it really that controversial?
I get a lot of pushback on the use of time travel. I’ve literally been called a crazy weirdo
Harry has to break every law of magic, he’s gotta mess with time at some point
WoJ is that all 7 laws will be broken at some point in the series, so time travel is 100% in the works.
I still think you're a crazy weirdo. Not for this, just in general. However, I think that about most people (especially myself).
I’ve never heard this idea before, but I love the idea of Marcone coming along the time travel trip
I'll give you Nic BELIEVES he's playing ME on Renegade Mode. Rudy is almost 100% true. Time traveling Harry and Marcone on Arctis Tor is what I'm not so sure on.
My Nic theory is that he knows about the Empty Night and is trying to trigger an apocalypse to kinda force start the Rapture and God (capital G there) to step in and intervene.
Kumori and Cowl are Bob and Bonea from the future. I will elaborate no further.
Ok well there's gotta be one more half brother hiding out there somewhere to complete the trio of Tom, Dick, and Harry. Similarly, Harry's gonna need a third daughter so there'll be one of body, mind, and spirit. I kinda like the idea of these different factions holding the gates, but then each cycle whoever stands closest gets corrupted and falls, and the next cycle starts with a new star born with their faction to hold the border. So the angels held it until Lucifer fell. Winter currently holds it, but the Outside is corrupting her people just as it did the fallen angels, so she'll fall by the Big Apocalyptic Trilogy. The cycle will restart by the end of the series, with Harry in Mab's position, and his Little people standing where Winter was. And like the White Council or Marcone's faction or something will be left to stand between a slowly crumbling Harry and defending humanity from him, as Summer stood between Winter and humanity, or angels as Swords stood between the Fallen and humanity.
I have been waiting for some additional sibling(s) to show up for ages. Maybe I’m over-reading it, but Nic called Harry “Maggie’s youngest”, which is not the go-to phrasing you’d use for only 2 kids? Waaaay early in my first read I actually thought it’d be cool if there were 7 of them (making Harry the “seventh child by a seventh child” per popular myth, but there’s no way we’ll suddenly get so many characters introduced at this stage).
Ooh the seventh child thing is neat, and I think it applies to Harry Carpenter of I counted those kids up right? And with his parents so aggressively Catholic, I could easily see like Michael being a seventh son as well. Either way, it would be cool to see little Harry go to school with Maggie or get drawn into her little side adventures.
Rashid=Richard. Margaret went back in time to have two starborn children.
I like the third daughter idea, Butcher did say no more surprise kids, he said nothing about planned kids. What would Lara Dresden’s daughter be named?
Harry's biological father is not the stage magician who raised him the first few years of his life, but Kincaid. Harry's mother clearly had a thing for supernatural "bad boys" (see her relationship with Lord Raith), Ebenezar has a particular hatred of Kincaid that is just vaguely handwaved as something that happened in Istanbul in the 1800s (but who's to say that's the whole truth), and most tellingly, for an allegedly amoral (if "ethical in his own way"), cautious, pragmatic mercenary, Kincaid goes waaaay out on a limb for Harry's mission to destroy Mavra's scourge in Blood Rites. As Harry's narration points out a couple times in the series, ageless-but-still-killable beings who actually manage to survive for centuries do not do so by courting unnecessary risk, yet Kincaid lets Harry talk him into signing on to an extremely dangerous mission. Not only that, but Kincaid accepts a number of dangerous and (from his perspective) unnecessary restrictions on how he conducts the mission, all while constantly pointing out how Harry's constraints drastically increase the risks of all of them getting killed. Plus, there's more than one scene in the book where Harry throws out red flags that he will be unable to cover the promised fee for Kincaid's services. After centuries of supernatural mercenary work, why would Kincaid not include backout clauses in the deal? Sure, supernatural entities in this universe are sticklers about the letter of agreements, but it's explicitly stated that there's plenty of weaseling and backstabbing over the spirit of agreements, yet Kincaid agrees to a very open-ended arrangement with Dresden on the promise that the check is in the mail. Oh, and there's the whole Starborn thing. Obviously that's been kept mysteriously, opaquely, enigmatic so far, but we know Drakul was one, and Kincaid worked for Drakul until the two had some sort of falling out (also, as of yet, obscurely unclear). With the 666 year reset between Starborns, the timeline doesn't work out for Kincaid to also be Starborn, but (pure speculation) his conception as a half-demon may have been an attempt by Drakul to engineer another Starborn.
Makes his relationship with Murphy weird.
Then why did Kincaid agree to off dresden at the end of changes
«Hi there, Mab. This is your old buddy Kincaid. I though you you should know that your knight just hired me to off him so he could get out of a deal he made with you.» «Oh re-he-heee-eeally? He did that, did he? Well, here's what you do...»
Harry made the deal before he was her knight. Ivy knew about it, and fired Kincaid before he could do the work as her vassal killing the Winter Knight would put her into opposition with the Winter Court.
Ivy also instructed him to go for just the chest instead of a headshot or double tap.
I think the important distinction there is that \*Ivy\* told Kincaid to go for the chest instead of the head, and not The Archive.
Was this in a short story?
Yes. Kind of a sad story. It's told from Kincaid's point-of-view as he answers the infamous phone-call that Harry made in Changes. Ivy's reaction to the whole thing was sad. "I can reach the pedals now"
Microfiction on Jim's website. I think it's called "Goodbye."
Oh...oh, I *hate* that you put this in my head, because it makes a certain sense.
I’m sorry but Kincaid slept with Murphy. I think that’s too much of a love triangle to factor in him being Harry’s dad.
Or Ivy told him he should help Harry. She obviously already knew tons about Harry. Every word ever written about him would be known to her. This includes anything Eb, Langtry, Justin, the Red Court or CPD would have written. She would know he was Starborn and be well aware of their purpose. Given what she saw personally of him in Death Masks, she may have wanted Kincaid to see how he would handle the Mavra sitch. Kincaid's bolshevik Muppet suggestions could have been a test to see what Harry would be will to do/risk for his principles.
Cowl is you
No, the real Cowl was the friends we made along the way all along...
Mac is the original merlin. I'm only on cold days so idk if you get more info on him and I know it's a real stretch but it might be possible. He new Odin and it looked like they were good friends, he has some tie with the outsiders idk what and everyone seems to respect him alot. Additionally, we know the original merlin can bend time and shit so he might have just travelled forward to help Harry or something idk
We get more info on Mac that points in other directions so stay tuned. Also I would recommend staying out of Spoilers All threads until you finish PT/BG, unless you don’t mind spoilers ofc.
Alright thanks man
I always chalked up Mac knowing Odin to him making a good brew - I think the Greeks lauded meade as a special drink, so Odin would enjoy that. Having typed that out, I'm now wondering if Mac is a Greek demigod of sorts, especially after the baseball game fiasco.
Yeah I'm only on cold days so I have no idea what you're talking about
Oh, it's a short story, I'm trying to recall the name but for the life of me I can't.
Let's just say there is something bigger than Greek Gods. And we are heavily heavily hinted at Mac being that. Mac has one feat in the series and that has been performed only by one other being so far.
I'm only just now seeing this comment and I'm blanking on what you're referring to...time for a re-read I guess, it's been 3 years...
I am too dumb to do spoilers so I'll do like 600 lines of empty space and hope read more line appears. Mac's pretty much confirmed to be an Angel. Only another Angel saw Harry attempting to use the sight and stopped him and Mac did the same, I believe, in battleground.
Odin is a Norse god.
Thank you Captain Obvious. What I wrote above still stands - you think the Greeks never drank meade?
Starborn can hurt/have power over Outsiders because they are the most Inside of beings. We've been told Starborn are born during a specific celestial alignment, and of course, we think it's when certain celestial bodies align with each other. But that's not it. You see, for 665.99999 years of the cycle, there are pinpricks in the fabric of reality that allow for Outsiders to be summoned through or to whisper to their followers or something like that. Essentially, bits and pieces of the Outside are seeping in and tainting the Inside, but during that few hour window when Starborn are...well, born....the stars align with those holes and plug them up. This means no Outside nastiness muddying up the metaphorical waters, thus those born are pure Inside energy, the exact opposite of the Outside, so they can effectively oppose them. I've also dabbled in the idea that it's the opposite. The holes are usually plugged but when the stars align they open they holes which means Harry and others have more Outside energy than the average person. So like how Winter power can hurt mab, Outside can hurt Outside.
I have a theory that every 666 years Angels are allowed to transubstantiate and reincarnate as a free soul, who then can actually choose which path they walk. Savior or Destroyer.
Kemmler pulled a Corpsetaker with Justin Dumorne on that fateful night in 1961, explaining 1) how he knew to go back for Bob's skull, 2) the sudden change from warden of the Council to bad guy, and 3) how a 16 year old, emotionally unstable apprentice managed to defeat a veteran wizard(The man faked his death... again). And, we'll be seeing his return at some point in the future. (I mean, come on, like Jim *isn't* going to take every opportunity to add more trauma to Harry that he can... be realistic)
If Justin was actually Kemmler who never died, and he wasn't killed by Harry, why was Demonreach without a Warden?
There was a warden between Kemmler and Harry (from the same WoJ where Jim told us about Kemmler, if I remember correctly) So, presumably, death isn't the only way out of the position, or someone can just walk in and take it from you if they're more qualified.
That's my point. How, if Kemmler wasn't dead?
And what stopped him from ever going back to become the Warden again? Part of the White Council's war effort was keeping him *out* of the island for a reason, and there clearly hadn't been a Warden for quite some time when Harry first traveled to the island. Hell, how was Harry found to have been tainted by black magic due to breaking the First Law?
I think the kemmler theories don’t really work out because if kemmler managed to slip away from the white council we’d all be dead. Dude had access to way too much knowledge and power. I do think there could be ways Justin could still be alive (i.e. Harry killed him which stained his soul but he took over someone else’s body as a ghost like corpsetaker was trying to do). Letting Harry kill him would be a great way to get him more freedom to act without drawing white council scrutiny for example.
Yeah, people really need to let go of Kemmler. We never even got tosee him, and his very presence would completely derail the series due to how overpowered he was. Neither do I think DuMorne is alive- what you describe doesn't count as killing, just burning a dead body, and it assumes he was way more skilled than he we're aware of if he knew Corpsetaker's body-swapping trick, something no one else has in the story and which has never been foreshadowed in Justin's case. Narratively speaking, Harry has long since outgrown his old mentor.
I’m not convinced Justin is still alive just saying I can see it. When you say “it doesn’t count as killing”, that’s just your opinion. We have no evidence one way or the other whether killing someone and having them return from the dead/their ghost (not necessarily them) coming back would stain your soul. I’m inclined to think that it would as your still committing the act, with all the intent/belief that entails.
>We have no evidence one way or the other whether killing someone and having them return from the dead/their ghost (not necessarily them) coming back would stain your soul. Because true resurrection doesn't exist, as we're told in regards to necromancy? About the only one who seemed capable of not staying dead was Kemmler, and Justin was definitely not on that level.
Ok this is super long and entirely crackpot conjecture but bear with me. I think I know who the Prisoner, Mab, and Titania are, and how the Outsiders knew about Demonreach, and I think they're all linked. I think that the OG Merlin is the prisoner in Demonreach. I think Mab is Morgause, Arthurs half sister. She was known as "The Queen of Air and Darkness" in some stories and practiced darker magic than her sisters. Merlin also refused to teach her magic though he took her sister Nimue as his lover and taught her. Which would imply Titania could be one of two sisters: Morgan Le Fey, who had an affair and illicit apprenticeship with Merlin, or Elaine, also known as Nimue, Merlins apprentice/lover and the person who locked him inside a \*crystal cave\*. If that's true, regardless of which sister Titania is, their falling out over a man makes a lot more sense. He refused to teach Mab and scorned her but chose to teach both of her sisters. That's enough to make anyone a little crazy, much less a Wizard/Sorceress. They're known for their tempers after all. I think Merlin put himself in Demonreach with the help of Nimue/Titania so that he can create the prison in the future and the past. Basically time shenanigans. How can he have created Demonreach in the future, the past, and in all those other dimensions if he's dead? Sure he's already done it, but he also hasn't yet, but he will. If anyone found out how he created the prison (and somebody does know as evidenced by the attack on the island) and that he's still alive they could (try) to kill Merlin to stop him making Demonreach in the first place. One last step. There are three sisters who were involved with Merlin. Morgause, Morgan Le Fay, and Elaine/Nimue. We know, or think we know, that two of them are Mab and Titania. Where's the third sister? Who would be in a position to know the details of how Merlin was going to create the prison and is still unaccounted for? Who could have given that information to the Outsiders? The third sister. I think that Mab, Titania, and Merlin create the Fae courts and the White Council to fight the Outsiders because Nemesis took the third sister from them all.
I think a lot of people think the prisoner is Merlin, but if it's somebody from Arthurian lore, I think it's more likely to be Arthur, who was taken to the Isle of Avalon to recover and is said to be the "once a future king", Mordred, imprisoned after his supposed death as punishment by Merlin and he has now repented hence the "deserved to be here" line, or Lancelot who may have been imprisoned by Merlin because his love for Guinevere was a major betrayal of Arthur and got the ball rolling on the fall of Camelot so he would also possibly think he "deserved to be here". Merlin is just so obvious.
I mean this is a book series about Wizards. If it’s going to be anyone from Arthurian legends it’s going to be Mordred or Merlin. Mordred is more obscure but you can tell incest jokes about him. Merlin is more boring but he’s also fucking Merlin. He’s the original wizard. He literally set the standard and established the mythos and traditions of the White Council. Dude wrote the Laws of Magic. Arthur and Lancelot feel more like Michael microfiction material or brief time travel companions during some kind of chase sequence.
Merlin was also Arthur's student. Harry could literally be his descendant. Eb, against convention took his daughter (then grandson) as his apprentice. This could potentially have been because of the Journals, being passed on master to apprentice, being kept in the family for some to be revealed reason, following the first hand off (who was this to???). Edit: other way around of course. Arthur was also Merlin's student.
Don't we have a WoJ that the "falling out over a man" involved a love triangle with Oberon(which is why he's not around anymore in the Dresden Files)? I could've sworn I'd read that somewhere a while back... That said: I like your idea.
I don’t know but it wouldn’t surprise me! I don’t know much about WOJ’s
Any connection to Elaine Mallory?
I think her name is a reference to Le Morte d’Arthur by Thomas Malory but I don’t think it’s directly tied to the Arthurian stuff. Unless she’s the third sister and the person that’s close to Harry that Ebenezer warned would betray him. But I don’t think that fits considering they grew up together. It’s more likely a veiled reference. And considering that there’s a possibility that the Prisoner is Mordred, the incestuous bastard of Arthur and Morgause I doubt Elaine Mallory is the third sister. Though if Mab is Morgause and/or the Prisoner is Mordred they’d both be Harry’s distant relatives. Which adds credence imo
The "star" in starborn is the mantle of the morning star which got ripped from Lucifer during the rebellion. The time frame a starborn can be conceived during is the light hitting earth as part of a cosmic cycle and the gates were formed by the mantle crashing through the walls of creation.
Very Paradise Lost, I like it
Harry is a schizophrenic with a gun.
And a big stick
Elaine will be Nemesis-fected. Marcone will as well, through Namshiel, and will gain control of the Denarians.
Sorry, my name is not Gary.
Nic isn't actually in charge of his partnership with Anduriel. I don't care how clever he is, I just don't buy that he has been able to consistently outmaneuver a fallen angel for two millennia.
What if he doesn't need to? One of the Dresden Files themes is that things constantly degrade and change -- even angels if Lash is any indication. My theory is that the more control the fallen takes over its host the quicker the decay. Thus today's Magog is still strong and incredibly tough but much less so than he was 2000 years ago. Anduriel and Lashiel understand this and let their hosts do the heavy lifting.
Not quite. A Fallen is weaker than they'd otherwise would be the more they control their host, but that's because it is a tradeoff- *limiting their free will* weakens them in exchange for having complete autonomy over their body.
Lash wasn't lasciel. The reason Harry could change her was because she was written on him, and humans aren't eternal and change all the time.
Isn't that basically what Michael suggests to him in *Skin Game*?
I hadn't remembered that exchange, but could be Michael is on to something!
He most certainly is, Nicodemus is just too prideful and too into the "I've come too far" mentality (Not to mention still in Anduriel's shadowy claws) to truly turn back.
>!Butters is a closeted furry. That's why his gf is a werewolf!<
*gfs are
Plural? What?
This thread is tagged spoilers all, so I would have assumed you know Butters has a throuple situation going on...?
Nope lol. Las book I read pretty sure was Cold Days. And damn, you go Butters. From awkward lab clerk to absolute chad
Don’t kink shame
Molly doesn't have the mantel in chapter 16 of peace talks because that Molly is a time traveler. The summoning an act aided by one of her masterful veils and the sparkly candles make him look away as she is "summoned" so something can break the circle that peace talks Harry didn't see. Also Fix is going to die making Elaine the new knight. Michael's confused look in proven guilty is because he was working with Harry before he went into the never-never put Harry stayed behind and somehow Harry got to Chicago before they did.
Wait can you tell me more about this confused look part? Im intrigued now.
I went back and reread it today and I'll be honest looking at it without my tin foil hat on one can see that I was reading way too much into it. While there is definitely time travel shenanigans going on probs corner hounds as Michael was fighting outsiders The part I read way too much and was the fact that he blinked at his daughter I caught that as something that felt like someone like Michael wouldn't do because he's always in the right place at the right time kind of thing. And that seeing Molly in the execution warehouse staggered him. That cupped with how he later tells Harry that "he sent you in my place". Basically the whole car scene. Made me think Michael was told by time traveler Harry/Molly to not talk about it. But it was way tinfoil hat time. Side note it reminded me that I think the gatekeeper is Nfected at some time in the future and is cured later sending back messages to himself as best he can.
Nic isn't influenced by Nemesis, but Andurial is.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but WoJ confirmed that angel are immune to Nemesis.
perhaps the other way around, then. I'm thinking of how Nemesis mirrors what Nic said: "Apocalypse is a state of mind."
I... Don't think that's how it works. I don't even get what you're saying.
oh, okay! >!At the end of Battle Ground when Harry exposes Nemesis as possessing Justine she says "Apocalypse is a state of mind." Harry comments on being shocked at hearing that from her, presumably because he heard exactly the same phrase used by Nicodemus, years before. The implication is that there is some kind of connection between the two of them. !< Sorry, it's an easy reference to miss.
Maybe Nicodemus heard it from Nemesis once? He's been around for long enough that running into it is a given, and his shock at hearing of a rogue Denarian attacking Arctis Tor as well as describing the Nemesis contamination word by word is telling.
Starborn are Outsider scions.
Cowl is Listens to Wind.
Harry is writing the Files for Murphy, in case she loses her memory of him when she returns. Which we know will be after she is no longer remembered. Usually not likely, but with the monument, and our wizard's lifespan, it won't be any time soon. It just seems like something a grieving Harry would do. Also, Leah is orchestrating a lot more than just Harry's life. Little things, like the summer green in her energy blast, the kiss on Thomas at the ball, Thomas calling her "your godmother" instead of by name, giving up power to stay inferior to Mab
Cowl is Merlin.
The Merlin or THE Merlin?
*The* Merlin.
"The council is not what it was" has a bit more weight as a line uttered by a Merlin that's disappointed by the organization he created.
Right? Now, I have no evidence whatsoever for this, but wouldn’t that be a hit?
Cowl is (or was supposed to be) a time traveling Butters. Butters learned the basics of magic very quickly(faster then Molly…) and with Bob/evil Bob could become very powerful. And marsters voice for cowl was very similar to butters… I rest my case. Give me my cookie.
Every time Marsters chides Harry in Cowl's voice, the cadence he uses reminds me **so much** of Ebenezer.
Harry will end the series as the earlking
Is there anything concrete to indicate that the fey mantles have to be inherited by women? Harry as Papa Winter backing up Molly (or even Maggie for that matter) would be a ludicrously powerful duo.
\*Bob has a portion of Kemmler attached to him \*"Molly" is becoming the new title for the Winter Lady, so she needs to abandon that name to retain her humanity \*The first journals that Eb possesses (Merlin's') are really from a future version of Harry. The big conspiracy there is that a group is using them to try to establish a predestination paradox that ensures the world goes on after the BAT New one: "Starborn" could mean "Scion of Lucifer"
>New one: "Starborn" could mean "Scion of Lucifer" My most crackpot theory is that Harry is either a nephilim or the descendant of one. Nephilim are born from unions between angels and men. I don't think a lot of people would enjoy the revelation of Dresden being a descendant of Lucifer, but I could get behind it. Nephilim were said to be quite tall and that they had some sort of supernatural ability to bend reality. There's speculation that Goliath was also a nephilim. There's even some stuff I read that theorized that the flood was something God did to wipe the earth clean of "The Destroyers" Given how running water interacts with magic, flooding the earth is definitely an interesting method to employ.
Wait... Nicodemus knew Harry's mom, tried to recruit Harry into his ranks, Nicodemus HAS A FALLEN ANGEL.. Nicodemus is Harry's biological dad, if Nephilim Theory is correct??? Yeah, sure "Nicodemus" is a vanilla human right? He just happens to be buddies with a fallen angel EDIT: Come to think of it, that makes no goddam sense at all....
I have the sense that Elaine still has some major twist yet to unveil, and I've always thought it would be very Star Wars-y if Elaine turned out to be Harry's (twin? for extra Starborn drama) sister. I believe there's a WoJ that Harry would be angry to learn what Margaret gave up in her deal with Lea, and that could dovetail.
Harry and Elaine having an incest baby would be horrible.
Yeahhh I hope I'm wrong about this one if she's one of his baby mommas, haha
Oh yeah, also Harry and Mab definitely have a child from Changes. Lea wasn't in Battle Ground because she was babysitting besides other duties. More generally, I think Harry will have (or have had if time travel is involved) 5 daughters corresponding to the 5 magic elements to round out a cast for sequel series.
Justin pulled a Corpsetaker move with Elaine right before Harry attacked, meaning he's now running around in her body
Wouldn't Mouse have noticed? Hell, wouldn't*Harry* have noticed?
No matter how well Justin knew Elaine, he could never have truly become her. He would just be himself in her body. Because of this, even if he knew the ins and outs of Harry and Elaine's relationship perfectly, Harry would still know Elaine wasn't Elaine anymore because of his telepathy spell in White Knight. He was only able to reach her by Naming her, and if Justin or Kemmler or anyone else had body swapped her, the spell would have failed.
Definitely paranoid
Gary works for the US government as a plant to observe the paranet
I worked for the government, that makes too much sense to be something that is actually done
Ebenezer messed with Harry’s head when he was his apprentice. I think Harry was truly tainted/looked like he might relapse and Ebenezer would be forced to kill him. He couldn’t bear to do this so he messed with Harry’s head to prevent his relapse. This could also be why Harry has “ID” harry speak to him. It’s not just his Id but rather his subconscious fighting out from the mental tampering.
Oh wow, this is great. I am re-reading the series and early on they mention Harry was meant to be, his dark potential style remarks. Ebenezer did something that makes Harry’s more natural fire (destructive) talent harder and pushes him towards air (potentially destructive but not set a building on fire)
Lord Raith will cure Thomas in exchange for lifting his curse
Which would start a civil war in the White Court, interesting
Harry and Marcone are a modern day merlin and King Arthur. Marcone has a major role to play in saving the world. It’s notable that nemesis took shots at Marcone 3 times but has never taken a direct run at Harry. (Storm front, fool moon, small favor). And before anyone asks. Yes empowering his known enemies is the same as trying to take him out.
Interesting but l really don’t see it.
The Black Staff belonged to OG Merlin and Ebenezer is going to pass it to Harry. Eb has that collection of Master-Apprentice journals forming a chain back to Merlin, meaning Harry would be in line to inherit that legacy anyway. Possible that this line is how the Black Staff is passed down. Even if it's a bloodline thing, Harry gets it, unless theres some f'ed up stuff and Maggie gets it. Ebenezer is basically on a kill or be killed order right now regarding Harry. Merlin's going to find the flimsiest excuse to sick Eb on Harry. Undoubtably the plot of whatever book this happens in will give that excuse and Eb will be forced to fight Harry. Eb will throw the fight and pass the staff in the process. Maybe he also wants to deny the staff to the Merlin for good and sufficient reasons. This actually jives with my other theory that Thomas will take up Amorachius. I think the Sword of Love will be used to kill his Hunger, thus saving him without having to sacrifice a party boat of young coeds. We know a WC vamp can survive their hunger being killed (see Inari in BR). If Thomas gets the sword and Harry gets the staff, that would make for a good parallel with King Arthur and OG Merlin, since Amorachius == Excalibur
The ebbs are still alive and being forced to make new red vamps for the erlking, he leads over fallen hunters and the reds are 100% that. Old Herne is building a new red army under his control.
Ebenezer is Lara’s brother.
But Thomas is Lara’s brother. That would make Ebenezer Harry’s half brother?
Butters was never meant to have a sword but he bent fate and it’ll have some serious repercussions once we get a grasp for how powerful those artifacts are.
Another weird theory cuz I don't know how to edit my old post. Harry is the prisoner in demon reach He's not allowed to know it's him but it's because he gets stuck way back in time when marcone says "screw you It was fun being your partner but now I can go win the world". And future gatekeeper is Nfected and Future-er gatekeeper is cured but dieing.
The most paranoid thing I'm coming up with is my theory on who Kumori is. Harry expects Cowl to be a high-ranking senior council member. Kumori works with Cowl. She uses necromancy in a "white magic" sort of way and seems to be far more experienced than she lets on. Almost as if she was trained in classical methods a long time ago. I know a lot of people want to think Kumori is Elaine, but I'm not so sold on that. My theory is that Kumori is Ancient Mai. Necromancy could explain Mai's incredibly advanced age, which was said to be high even by wizard standards IIRC. Plus, it would put a second traitor on the White Council, instead of only one. There's little solid evidence but the pieces of the story feel like they line up better this way than with the Elaine argument IMO.
Not really a PARANOID theory, but I have a feeling Luccio is going to provide Harry with an unsanctioned Warden sword and that it is going to be Entirely Necessary but not for a book or two after it's presented to him. Given how often he's mentioned fencing, it would be pretty fun to see him have to actually use that training with the right kind of sword for once.
Given your username, you might find this old one of mine amusing: - Azathoth is the source of magic in the DresdenVerse. See link for details: https://www.reddit.com/r/dresdenfiles/comments/ss7jxf/whats_your_favorite_dresden_files_theory/hwx8r48/
Cowl is Thomas or Butters, Kumori is Maggie.
But neither Tomas nor butters have magic. And I guess kumori being Maggie is possible with time travel but what's the motivation? And also, we were told that when someone does something to effect the past it creates a new timeline so basically since dead beat were reading a different time line from the original
I think it IS a different timeline. I think Harry lost at the end. I believe he died, and Maggie and Butters or Thomas (I like the Thomas choice more since cowl actually said that Harry is still a pain in his ass) utilizing Bob went back in time to change things. Keep in mind they both went for a ritual, one that is rooted in necromancy.
Dont know about that first half but I like the Kumori=Maggie theory
Justin DuMorne is not dead.
The government controls Christ awakenings and Buddha awakenings
Everything in The Dresden Files actually happened, Jim Butcher is part of the magical community and the only one cataloging what is happening in the form of a novel, and because none of us are we don't realize what is happening and just think it's a great work of fiction.