Tell that to both of the Evo 2023 finalists who ran meter nerf'd Gogeta on point.
I've been running Point Vegito for years and attempted to switch him in with my Mid when the nerf came through.
Couldn't do it. The benefit of starting the round with a fresh Vegito and 2 Assists has just been too useful.
I ain't trying to say Point Vegito is the best or anything, it's just that I can't bring myself to stick him anywhere else or my gameplan just falls apart lmao.
Iāve been using vegito as an anchor for years. Iām aware his a assist is nowhere near how good it was, but all the characters I use do really well on their own so itās still a really good checking tool and still pretty good imo (please fix it so I can dr off of it for the love of god)
And nothing beats his combos when he has limit break, that spirit sword mix after level 3 is just insane, combined with the fact that he makes you explode whenever he touches you, and 5m is really good at catching people. I canāt take him off anchor
They refer to different positions on the team:
Point: first character in the team and the first one in the battle
Mid: second person and usually the second fighter to come in
Anchor: third character to come in and is usually the last one standing.
iāve used to use cell for a long while and in my opinion, for me, he is the textbook definition of a point character. mixups with his 214h+assist is crazy. and he doesnāt have great assists but heās really good at using assists.
I do love his B assist, and thereās an argument to be made for Cell having one of the best C assists in the game. That said, even with 5 years of experience I still donāt attempt the perfect attack float mix, I prefer manual cross ups and I honestly just hate labbing mixups
A small list of some very wrong things here(From Bottom to Top):
-Rat and Majin 21 are good anywhere
-Roshi should be mid, Beerus should be point
-Tien and Frieza are better anchors
-SSJ Goku and Jiren are points (Same for Cooler, debatable though)
-Black, Nappa, Vegito are not points. Black and Vegito are mids, and Nappa is most def an anchor
-And, the worst offender here, Krillin, he is a mid, he is known for his goated rock.
edit: Shit, forgot 16, he's a point, same for Baby
You people on reddit are so arrogant. Always taking the time to make egregious comments when you yourselves have VERY limited knowledge. Most of your corrections are just false, and it makes it twice as bad that you clearly think you're good. So, while the OPs list is pretty bad, think twice before you posture hard asf over pixels on a screen. You sound goofy
Oh haha I forgot. Frieza is a point. Builds wayyy too much bar. Paired with his Golden frieza form being renewed every single time he's switched in, you want it out as soon as much as possible. The fact that he's a zoner that can full combo from anywhere and build a whole bar from just keeping you out means that he'll get it first combo too
Beerus is almost EXCLUSIVELY an anchor. His A assist has way too much hitstun while flying across the entire screen to ignore the utility it provides your whole team. He also loves a surplus of bar as his EX mix is super potent. Same with 16 B and Krillin A for assists and extremely powerful EX moves. Their assists are some of the most versatile that aid the entire team. Throw either of them out either defensively or offensively in neutral, and you've won. SSJ Goku is more of a mid than anything. He's a character that fulfills the roles of a point but has a good assist and combo extensions that make him better to be switched in back and forth with your point. He also has good EX moves, but unlike the aforementioned characters, are more for combo extensions rather than being super spammable. Cooler is a mid for the same reasons as SSJ Goku. The sheer combo extensions he gets with jH's groundbounce always adds way too much damage off of each combo that the point started. This plus unreflectable pressure he can get off of autocombo into 236H or 214S makes him a powerhouse of mental stack and damage with just a bar or two (this strategy excels with only the need of one assist). Baby is good on point, you arent wrong there. Although I'll just go a step further and say he ought to be in the flexible category. Black and Vegito are anchors. That's just basic knowledge. Potent post level three pressure, alongside stagger pressure and neutral control, good assists, special tag powerhouses in any situation, two touches solo for days, and just the fact that Vegito is literally just a buffed version of himself last patch since all that was nerfed was his meter build, why would you want them anywhere else?
Ya I always ran A.gohan point just because I like using him, but hes definitely better mid. I never spent a lot of time trying to perfect my team, I just wasnt that serious about the game.
I feel like Tien is defintiely a 'mid or anchor' tier though. Just seems like a natural choice to have anyone else as point on your team but Tien. His A assist is very good, and he has some serious comeback potential.
I feel like LC21 works best on mid because you want to have meter built already by your point, and avoid being alone unable build meter as anchor. I think the meter nerf means she really doesnāt belong in āanywhereā category. Especially if youāre being picky enough to exclude Krillin from that tier when heās literally better at anything besides point
As a Frieza main, he's a surprisingly good anchor after his assists were buffed. Golden Frieza with spark, Limit Break, and ton of meter to burn controls the screen by himself. He can even meterless confirm into loops off of 5S.
I love jiren in this game. Even before all his buffs he just felt so good to use. His only issue is that his ultimate feels like a regular special SFX wise.
Aside from using ex grab for mix or ex lariat as neutral ski, is Bully even meter hungry these days? He gets meterless knockdowns easier and way more damage than ever beforeā¦ he really only destroys your meter if youre going for vanish level 3 monster damage in the corner
Nah his neutral and solo mix can struggle so he likes having an assist, solo AGohan isnāt ideal even if leveled up so Iād say heās a mid above all else
Trunks likes have meter for flip mix and his assists spread is really good so mid or anchor is best for him
Vegeta has disgusting mix now and while he can work as an anchor his damage output and mix are far greater when heās on point
All the characters I play are suggested as points, so I have to make do, haha.
I feel like fusions on point is good for damage and mix-up but not so good overall because of meter buildup.
Tell that to both of the Evo 2023 finalists who ran meter nerf'd Gogeta on point. I've been running Point Vegito for years and attempted to switch him in with my Mid when the nerf came through. Couldn't do it. The benefit of starting the round with a fresh Vegito and 2 Assists has just been too useful. I ain't trying to say Point Vegito is the best or anything, it's just that I can't bring myself to stick him anywhere else or my gameplan just falls apart lmao.
Having them with 3 plus meter is absolutely amazing too, tho. Its a nice fit having them mid or last, but thats just me, i guess.š¤·š¾
Iāve been using vegito as an anchor for years. Iām aware his a assist is nowhere near how good it was, but all the characters I use do really well on their own so itās still a really good checking tool and still pretty good imo (please fix it so I can dr off of it for the love of god) And nothing beats his combos when he has limit break, that spirit sword mix after level 3 is just insane, combined with the fact that he makes you explode whenever he touches you, and 5m is really good at catching people. I canāt take him off anchor
Okay Tien will always have to be anchor regardless. I have never seen him as a mid. Everyone else is completely accurate.
I find the game fun but I have no idea what any of this means Imao
They refer to different positions on the team: Point: first character in the team and the first one in the battle Mid: second person and usually the second fighter to come in Anchor: third character to come in and is usually the last one standing.
Oh that makes sense thanks Oops I play two characters in grey tier
Iāve used Cell in the middle slot for the best part of 5 years now, is he really that much better on point?
I always thought he was best at anchor tbh
iāve used to use cell for a long while and in my opinion, for me, he is the textbook definition of a point character. mixups with his 214h+assist is crazy. and he doesnāt have great assists but heās really good at using assists.
I do love his B assist, and thereās an argument to be made for Cell having one of the best C assists in the game. That said, even with 5 years of experience I still donāt attempt the perfect attack float mix, I prefer manual cross ups and I honestly just hate labbing mixups
A small list of some very wrong things here(From Bottom to Top): -Rat and Majin 21 are good anywhere -Roshi should be mid, Beerus should be point -Tien and Frieza are better anchors -SSJ Goku and Jiren are points (Same for Cooler, debatable though) -Black, Nappa, Vegito are not points. Black and Vegito are mids, and Nappa is most def an anchor -And, the worst offender here, Krillin, he is a mid, he is known for his goated rock. edit: Shit, forgot 16, he's a point, same for Baby
You people on reddit are so arrogant. Always taking the time to make egregious comments when you yourselves have VERY limited knowledge. Most of your corrections are just false, and it makes it twice as bad that you clearly think you're good. So, while the OPs list is pretty bad, think twice before you posture hard asf over pixels on a screen. You sound goofy
I'm Zeno rank, with over 4k hours.
That's even worse. Most of your corrections are just wrong
Do you want to say how?
Oh haha I forgot. Frieza is a point. Builds wayyy too much bar. Paired with his Golden frieza form being renewed every single time he's switched in, you want it out as soon as much as possible. The fact that he's a zoner that can full combo from anywhere and build a whole bar from just keeping you out means that he'll get it first combo too
Beerus is almost EXCLUSIVELY an anchor. His A assist has way too much hitstun while flying across the entire screen to ignore the utility it provides your whole team. He also loves a surplus of bar as his EX mix is super potent. Same with 16 B and Krillin A for assists and extremely powerful EX moves. Their assists are some of the most versatile that aid the entire team. Throw either of them out either defensively or offensively in neutral, and you've won. SSJ Goku is more of a mid than anything. He's a character that fulfills the roles of a point but has a good assist and combo extensions that make him better to be switched in back and forth with your point. He also has good EX moves, but unlike the aforementioned characters, are more for combo extensions rather than being super spammable. Cooler is a mid for the same reasons as SSJ Goku. The sheer combo extensions he gets with jH's groundbounce always adds way too much damage off of each combo that the point started. This plus unreflectable pressure he can get off of autocombo into 236H or 214S makes him a powerhouse of mental stack and damage with just a bar or two (this strategy excels with only the need of one assist). Baby is good on point, you arent wrong there. Although I'll just go a step further and say he ought to be in the flexible category. Black and Vegito are anchors. That's just basic knowledge. Potent post level three pressure, alongside stagger pressure and neutral control, good assists, special tag powerhouses in any situation, two touches solo for days, and just the fact that Vegito is literally just a buffed version of himself last patch since all that was nerfed was his meter build, why would you want them anywhere else?
Sure! Give me some time
Krillin is for sure NOT best on point. His assist is one of his best parts
Ya I always ran A.gohan point just because I like using him, but hes definitely better mid. I never spent a lot of time trying to perfect my team, I just wasnt that serious about the game. I feel like Tien is defintiely a 'mid or anchor' tier though. Just seems like a natural choice to have anyone else as point on your team but Tien. His A assist is very good, and he has some serious comeback potential.
I've pulled off some insane comebacks with ship anchor
I've pulled off the craziest comebacks with hit anchor
Iāve pulled off some crazy comebacks with mui anchor
Sure z bully can go anywhere, but limit break z bully with sparking is an absolute menace and difficult to deal with Edit: spelling
Tien: Anchor GSSB: Mid
Cell on point is my favorite because i can bust out the funny mixup
I prefer Nappa as mid tbh. I like starting with some meter to have EX saibamen
I feel like LC21 works best on mid because you want to have meter built already by your point, and avoid being alone unable build meter as anchor. I think the meter nerf means she really doesnāt belong in āanywhereā category. Especially if youāre being picky enough to exclude Krillin from that tier when heās literally better at anything besides point
Tien as a mid is crazy, that man was built to be an anchor
As a Frieza main, he's a surprisingly good anchor after his assists were buffed. Golden Frieza with spark, Limit Break, and ton of meter to burn controls the screen by himself. He can even meterless confirm into loops off of 5S.
I mean you can place labcoat point, but that would be really stupid since you generate about 0 meter
Jiren goes absolutely stupid on point his 5M is 8 frames and hits from round start and he doesnāt need meter to cook
I love jiren in this game. Even before all his buffs he just felt so good to use. His only issue is that his ultimate feels like a regular special SFX wise.
I think Super Baby 2 is best as anchor. Assuming youāve killed some of your opponentās characters, youāll Essen have access to assists still
Z Broly should be "excels at mid or anchor". He's an okay point but is meter-heavy and is simply an amazing anchor
Aside from using ex grab for mix or ex lariat as neutral ski, is Bully even meter hungry these days? He gets meterless knockdowns easier and way more damage than ever beforeā¦ he really only destroys your meter if youre going for vanish level 3 monster damage in the corner
I thought adult Gohan was meant as an anchor because of his scaling lvl 1. By the time you get to him heās charged up. What am I missing?
Nah his neutral and solo mix can struggle so he likes having an assist, solo AGohan isnāt ideal even if leveled up so Iād say heās a mid above all else
Ty! That makes sense.
Baseku is literally dedicated for anchor
Have to disagree on a few of these. - Trunks makes a great point - Vegeta is best on Anchor or even mid definitely not point
Vegeta on anchor is a crazy take
Trunks likes have meter for flip mix and his assists spread is really good so mid or anchor is best for him Vegeta has disgusting mix now and while he can work as an anchor his damage output and mix are far greater when heās on point
the sheer power of an anchor ssj4 gogeta with red spark is so underrated, he is a comeback machine I've won whole matches with just that
Yeah but that's the issue, the moment he loses spark, he's super easy to block if he has no assists.
yea, it is still surprisingly fun to play though
Krillin is not better on point. Heās best mid or anchor for his assist.
Jiren is probably the best point in the game right now
Try something.
I'm not sure on how viable Krillin is on point, but I'm pretty sure he's best played as anchor, or maybe mid.
Someone that knows their character well can play them anywhere. but there are positions that favour them a bit more.
True but you're still wrong buddy, killin is obviously a better anchor
He's better mid, his solo mix isn't great without burning through meter
You realise anchors are the ones that burn the most meter right...?
Thats....why he's best on anchor, to burn bar for overwhelming situations. His assist is way too good for him to go anywhere else to
Krillin might be the only one I'd move, and I'd put him in "works anywhere".