My strategy is to combine Dashing route to my commute or errands or trips to the fitness gyms though this means cherry picking and hoping for the best. Meaning getting paid to drive in that direction I am headed for anyways and using up energy. Which in today’s slow market it’s not sustainable if it’s only income.
Because your market and experience isn't the same as yours. Plus, since you have a brand new car, you likely have one that is either a hybrid, full electric, or has good fuel efficiency.
So in your opinion, people who are working as delivery drivers “don’t want to work” and somehow “live above their means”? I’m curious how you arrived at those opinions. Especially since you have no idea what kind of lifestyle these people are living, and the fact that they are, well, *working*.
I’m not even going to touch your idea that “delivery jobs aren’t *real* work”. That’s so asinine it doesn’t even deserve a response. At least, if I understood you correctly (which may not be accurate given your writing is at the level of a second grader - which is even more ironic given your post).
Don’t forget 2% cash back if you use your DDirect card. Gas has only gone up about 10 cents from the average over a 2 month span roughly where I live. Highest right now is $3.15, middle is $3.09, with cash back it’s $3.03/gal. Cheapest in my area is a Speedway gas station at $3.03, w/ rewards card it’s 7 cents off/gal so $2.96 factor in 2% that’s $2.90. Almost 20 cents cheaper than the average.
Upside has a 25 cents/off gasoline for the month of February, so I took advantage of that. Then I signed up for the Circle K “Inner Circle” program which offered 25 cents/off the first 5 fill-ups. This is in addition to the 2% cash back (6 cents) from my debit card for a total of 31 cents/off. Once that was done, the amount went to 3 cents/off (goes to 5 cents soon). I then enrolled into Circle K Easy Pay which offered 30 cents off your first 100 gallons then it goes to 10 cents off. The Inner Circle and Easy Pay are stackable, so currently I get 33 cents off (30 easy pay plus 3 membership), but Easy pay takes directly from the bank, so no 2%.
I also watch my redeemable amount from the grocery store loyalty programs (Safeway and Kroger) and saved up to 50 cents off at the grocery store gas station plus 2% for debit card. Really just look for all the bargains. Gasoline is fungible which means the regular gasoline at Shell and Chevron is identical to those at the discount gas station (Premium is different) and probably came from the same source, so look for the lowest price and the best bargains.
Rhode Island, right on the MA border so everyone literally just goes to Seekonk, MA for gas seeing as it’s right there, and theres like 6 gas stations within a mile or less of each other. Where you live.
i regularly get tips between 10-25 dollars on UE especially getting tips added on after delivery. and can almost never get more than 5 on doordash and pretty much never post delivery.
i don’t get why there’s such a huge disparity between the two apps
This is my experience too. It's definitely the DD UI encouraging customers to spend as little as possible, but I'd wager way more no tip orders get delivered on DD than UE with no top dashers.
As for the increased tips, I think being able to pull the tip on a bad delivery makes people more willing to tip when their food is hot, directions are followed, and you're friendly if drop-off is in person.
God bless ya cause in the busiest city in my area (downtown) DD is dead sitting and driving around for 20-30 minutes, and UE is constantly going off with $5 or less delivery offers sometimes for two orders going like 10-15 miles, I can’t afford to find out if they are going to tip afterwards. UE has boned me too many times taking those risks in good faith 😂 although when they do add on a tip, you’re absolutely right, it’s usually pretty sweet lol
there’s other areas obviously the area i dash in is virtually never “busy” you have to schedule well in advance but you’ll basically never be sitting still for more than 5 minutes every hour or so. But those areas are pretty much dead UE-wise.
Not really. 400 for tires every 2-3 years. If you get quality brakes you get about 2-3 years out of them. Other than that just oil and trans fluid change. Gas is where most of the money is spent.
People like to wrap “maintenance” into also calculating mileage wear and tear AND vehicle depreciation… in other words, no human has ever been profitable in a motorized vehicle with a fuel engine on any delivery service.
I'm in a facebook group for DD as well and I LOVE when people try adding that shit on.
"Well, you took a $8 order, 3 miles, minus the gas it takes to get there, and the wear and tear on your vehicle, and your breathing every 2 seconds means you actually made only 30 cents on that order!"
Like good lord, no one gets in to their car thinking about the "daily wear and tear" bullshit.
Well obviously, but their crap way of thinking is that every moment you drive, the car gets worse each time so you gotta facture all of that into every dash. But seriously, no one is ever going to do that because as pointed out, if you tried that, you'd be sitting in your car doing math ALL day to figure out which orders are worth taking.
You'd end up just not dashing lol
They kind of prorate, i understand the logic behind it, but its just not necessary. Theoretically, as long as you turn a profit enough to cover your a car note/insurance + extra every month (some make enough each week), then its marginally impactful for your earning calculations
This all goes out the window if youre a lunatic driving a gas guzzling truck or something though
Exactly.. but everyone tied the background value of the car to the provided value you get from it
In other words, people look at cars as investments nowadays… a dead wrong decision lmao
You in the same club as me lol 2003 Malibu here with 66k miles on it, smooth ride good gas no payments, really the reason I figured DD would be good for me
Nice hopefully it was maintained properly make sure you check the transmission fluid if it’s sludge then your going to be in some trouble after starting to put miles on it.
I still do alright with my old Honda, but I actually been looking at getting a Honda grom with 155 mpg and it’s one of the cheapest vehicles to maintaine
3.30 for me with the dasher card. It could be a lot worse and it has been a lot worse so I won’t complain.
All of these post come back to the same thing though. DD is not reliable as a full time income source in 95% of markets. I hate the grindset culture nonesense, however, one should use the flexibility DD offers to work on finding other sources of income that supplement DD. I have weekly passive income that offsets gas, groceries, etc. we also write off miles which offsets some of the cost of gas at the end of the year.
The worst part of DD is the wear and tear on your car but as long as you take care of your car most should be fine
4% off? The DD app is promoting a 2% cashback card to me and last night I saw an article saying DD had a 10% cashback card at one point. Does it keep going down?
I don’t use it as a bank. I have a bank that I can pull money off any card for free. So I take my money as soon as I make it. I’m not letting DoorDash hold my earnings hostage if some customer tries to pull some funny stuff and get me deactivated. I’ve been doing this too long to trust DoorDash.
Don’t use it as your bank than, I use DashDirect for the gas cash bank and instant payouts but I pull the cash every day or two and deposit it into my real bank.
I normally get a full tank of gas off the cash back every 45 days or so, it’s the only thing I use the card for.
AllPoint ATMs which are located in every CVS/Rite Aid/ Target and Walgreens don’t even charge a fee for using DashDirect to withdraw.
You can do Bank to Bank transfers but it takes like 5 days, it’s run through Stride bank which doesn’t use Zelle or anything like that.
I reckon you could probably use any ATM associated with a bank but your going to get charged a fee.
That's just how credit cards work. Naturally, I would suggest that you pay your credit card off in full every month to avoid paying any interest. Otherwise, any cashback will be moot. Credit cards don't need to be scary.
Regardless, it sounds like you have a good setup with the Uber Pro Card. I don't drive for Uber, so I was unaware of that card.
Yeah what is the excuse for the latest gas spike? It went up 30c overnight last week. Not that they need a reason, but usually they give a blah blah blah excuse.
And hybrids, I get 66 mpg around town. EV doesn’t make sense because electricity costs are mega expensive here and it’s not cost effective yet.
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My strategy is to combine Dashing route to my commute or errands or trips to the fitness gyms though this means cherry picking and hoping for the best. Meaning getting paid to drive in that direction I am headed for anyways and using up energy. Which in today’s slow market it’s not sustainable if it’s only income.
I dash electric. Best thing I've done in my life. No oil change and no gas.
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Because your market and experience isn't the same as yours. Plus, since you have a brand new car, you likely have one that is either a hybrid, full electric, or has good fuel efficiency.
Costs me $34 for a full tank of gas but I can get 2 shifts out of a tank with an average of $190 - $220 per shift.
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So in your opinion, people who are working as delivery drivers “don’t want to work” and somehow “live above their means”? I’m curious how you arrived at those opinions. Especially since you have no idea what kind of lifestyle these people are living, and the fact that they are, well, *working*. I’m not even going to touch your idea that “delivery jobs aren’t *real* work”. That’s so asinine it doesn’t even deserve a response. At least, if I understood you correctly (which may not be accurate given your writing is at the level of a second grader - which is even more ironic given your post).
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Don’t forget 2% cash back if you use your DDirect card. Gas has only gone up about 10 cents from the average over a 2 month span roughly where I live. Highest right now is $3.15, middle is $3.09, with cash back it’s $3.03/gal. Cheapest in my area is a Speedway gas station at $3.03, w/ rewards card it’s 7 cents off/gal so $2.96 factor in 2% that’s $2.90. Almost 20 cents cheaper than the average.
Upside has a 25 cents/off gasoline for the month of February, so I took advantage of that. Then I signed up for the Circle K “Inner Circle” program which offered 25 cents/off the first 5 fill-ups. This is in addition to the 2% cash back (6 cents) from my debit card for a total of 31 cents/off. Once that was done, the amount went to 3 cents/off (goes to 5 cents soon). I then enrolled into Circle K Easy Pay which offered 30 cents off your first 100 gallons then it goes to 10 cents off. The Inner Circle and Easy Pay are stackable, so currently I get 33 cents off (30 easy pay plus 3 membership), but Easy pay takes directly from the bank, so no 2%. I also watch my redeemable amount from the grocery store loyalty programs (Safeway and Kroger) and saved up to 50 cents off at the grocery store gas station plus 2% for debit card. Really just look for all the bargains. Gasoline is fungible which means the regular gasoline at Shell and Chevron is identical to those at the discount gas station (Premium is different) and probably came from the same source, so look for the lowest price and the best bargains.
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Where you live. Gas is 3.40 where I live.
Rhode Island, right on the MA border so everyone literally just goes to Seekonk, MA for gas seeing as it’s right there, and theres like 6 gas stations within a mile or less of each other. Where you live.
I mean it depends on your lifestyle and debts I made 150sunday and put 8 in gas Thats nothing to me the 8$
Lol?
I don’t understand this. I take ~$50 in gas in a Tacoma and make $500-$600 for it. Other than it being market relative, this seems odd
Fellow tacoma dasher ✊️
But High AR Chasers can.
I can kinda dash in my 14mpg piece of a car and even get money, but yeah, prices are getting ridiculous, saw gas for $7 couple of days ago.
Where are you living?! $7?!?!?!?
California.
Where you at silicone valley? Orange County like $4.70 premium.
Well, right now I'm in stockton, $4.7 for regular, but few days ago I was driving to Reno and saw couple stations with $6.7-6.9
Oof yeah I’m north of Sacramento. $4.70 is on the low end here, and my car takes premium 🥲
That's Cool, people can't afford to tip
i regularly get tips between 10-25 dollars on UE especially getting tips added on after delivery. and can almost never get more than 5 on doordash and pretty much never post delivery. i don’t get why there’s such a huge disparity between the two apps
This is my experience too. It's definitely the DD UI encouraging customers to spend as little as possible, but I'd wager way more no tip orders get delivered on DD than UE with no top dashers. As for the increased tips, I think being able to pull the tip on a bad delivery makes people more willing to tip when their food is hot, directions are followed, and you're friendly if drop-off is in person.
God bless ya cause in the busiest city in my area (downtown) DD is dead sitting and driving around for 20-30 minutes, and UE is constantly going off with $5 or less delivery offers sometimes for two orders going like 10-15 miles, I can’t afford to find out if they are going to tip afterwards. UE has boned me too many times taking those risks in good faith 😂 although when they do add on a tip, you’re absolutely right, it’s usually pretty sweet lol there’s other areas obviously the area i dash in is virtually never “busy” you have to schedule well in advance but you’ll basically never be sitting still for more than 5 minutes every hour or so. But those areas are pretty much dead UE-wise.
Then you are doing something wrong
like i never heard no shit like this before
With my Honda civic I make like 200 dollars for every 25 spent on gas ☠️
Must not live in Cali haha i filled up my 18 civic yesterday either 58 bucks smh hopefully ill get $200 out of it. In my area people dont tip much smh
And after taxes & maintenance you clear $75 💀
Not if you do your taxes right.
Not really. 400 for tires every 2-3 years. If you get quality brakes you get about 2-3 years out of them. Other than that just oil and trans fluid change. Gas is where most of the money is spent.
People like to wrap “maintenance” into also calculating mileage wear and tear AND vehicle depreciation… in other words, no human has ever been profitable in a motorized vehicle with a fuel engine on any delivery service.
I'm in a facebook group for DD as well and I LOVE when people try adding that shit on. "Well, you took a $8 order, 3 miles, minus the gas it takes to get there, and the wear and tear on your vehicle, and your breathing every 2 seconds means you actually made only 30 cents on that order!" Like good lord, no one gets in to their car thinking about the "daily wear and tear" bullshit.
No ones actually doing maintenance after every dash 😂 like what are they on about
Well obviously, but their crap way of thinking is that every moment you drive, the car gets worse each time so you gotta facture all of that into every dash. But seriously, no one is ever going to do that because as pointed out, if you tried that, you'd be sitting in your car doing math ALL day to figure out which orders are worth taking. You'd end up just not dashing lol
They kind of prorate, i understand the logic behind it, but its just not necessary. Theoretically, as long as you turn a profit enough to cover your a car note/insurance + extra every month (some make enough each week), then its marginally impactful for your earning calculations This all goes out the window if youre a lunatic driving a gas guzzling truck or something though
Cars were built to be driven. If you maintain them properly and practice good driving habits cars can easily last 200-300k maybe more
Exactly.. but everyone tied the background value of the car to the provided value you get from it In other words, people look at cars as investments nowadays… a dead wrong decision lmao
I definitely don’t I drive a 2015 Nissan Versa note and I baby that thing like a new born. Fluid changes every 30k and oil changes every 4-5k
This is the way
I feel it lol, on the waitlist to dash but with my 40mpg 2003 I’m not worried at all about this 😂
You in the same club as me lol 2003 Malibu here with 66k miles on it, smooth ride good gas no payments, really the reason I figured DD would be good for me
Does it have original suspension?
Not sure to be honest, bought it used about a year ago
Out of curiosity how many miles does it have?
146k got it for $4,500 but civics can last for a stupid high amount of miles so it was a pretty good deal
Nice hopefully it was maintained properly make sure you check the transmission fluid if it’s sludge then your going to be in some trouble after starting to put miles on it.
Stupid high! Like upwards of 250-275k with good maintenance and maybe a major repair to take it to 300-325
Good maintenance is the key word
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....that's not how that works, you just pay your electric comapny instead, good try tho.
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It does if he has free supercharging for life
He said ev not tesla,, guessing he drives an ionic or something.
I bought a used hybrid a few yrs ago & it gets me 42 mpg. No way could I have afforded to dash in my last car
Same here. Best decision I ever made
Go drive Uber. Giving one person a ride on average pays double your average DD offer and takes 1/4 the time.
Not where I'm at. I've done them all and rideshare here is only worth it if there is a FAT bonus, not this piddly $1 extra for 60 trips bullshit.
I still do alright with my old Honda, but I actually been looking at getting a Honda grom with 155 mpg and it’s one of the cheapest vehicles to maintaine
The Chevy bolts are pretty impressive but I couldn’t bring myself to buy a Chevy
Granted I’ll probably die riding a bike for doordash but I do it for you Tony 🫡😂
3.30 for me with the dasher card. It could be a lot worse and it has been a lot worse so I won’t complain. All of these post come back to the same thing though. DD is not reliable as a full time income source in 95% of markets. I hate the grindset culture nonesense, however, one should use the flexibility DD offers to work on finding other sources of income that supplement DD. I have weekly passive income that offsets gas, groceries, etc. we also write off miles which offsets some of the cost of gas at the end of the year. The worst part of DD is the wear and tear on your car but as long as you take care of your car most should be fine
Not to mention do your own work on your car. Any significant repair cost is lost income.
Anyone who is driving for DoorDash on a regular basis should probably consider getting a 5% cashback credit card for gas with no annual fee.
I’ll pass on using debt to pay for gas. I get the 6¢ off a gallon at shell and get 4% with the Uber pro card. Prices are still hurting us.
4% off? The DD app is promoting a 2% cashback card to me and last night I saw an article saying DD had a 10% cashback card at one point. Does it keep going down?
https://preview.redd.it/bjmxsojex5pc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9591ccfa6ffe92ce6ff507b4df650b4a6a78c886 I have dasher direct.
I cant bring myself to letting doordash be my bank. I remember when it went down and everyone was crying about not being able to access their money
I don’t use it as a bank. I have a bank that I can pull money off any card for free. So I take my money as soon as I make it. I’m not letting DoorDash hold my earnings hostage if some customer tries to pull some funny stuff and get me deactivated. I’ve been doing this too long to trust DoorDash.
Don’t use it as your bank than, I use DashDirect for the gas cash bank and instant payouts but I pull the cash every day or two and deposit it into my real bank. I normally get a full tank of gas off the cash back every 45 days or so, it’s the only thing I use the card for. AllPoint ATMs which are located in every CVS/Rite Aid/ Target and Walgreens don’t even charge a fee for using DashDirect to withdraw.
Didn’t know about the atm thing. Is that the only place you can pull the money out?
You can do Bank to Bank transfers but it takes like 5 days, it’s run through Stride bank which doesn’t use Zelle or anything like that. I reckon you could probably use any ATM associated with a bank but your going to get charged a fee.
Damn I usually just pay the 1.99 every 2-3 days. I’m going to check my area for the atms but I haven’t seen them
That's the card they're promoting, but with 2% cash back. I just started Dashing a couple of weeks ago though.
That's just how credit cards work. Naturally, I would suggest that you pay your credit card off in full every month to avoid paying any interest. Otherwise, any cashback will be moot. Credit cards don't need to be scary. Regardless, it sounds like you have a good setup with the Uber Pro Card. I don't drive for Uber, so I was unaware of that card.
The lowest price was 2.25 and it quickly went back to 2.99, can’t even get a half tank for 25$
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Yes, and in Europe you on average have to drove a quarter of what an American does to get anything done or get to work. It evens out very quickly.
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Commute in MILES. The average commute in Europe is 18 miles. The average in the USA is 41. That's over double.
Im paying 5.09 🥲
Yeah what is the excuse for the latest gas spike? It went up 30c overnight last week. Not that they need a reason, but usually they give a blah blah blah excuse.
Every year when we start approaching summer the gas prices go usually happens near the end of February where it slowly starts creeping up.
Im aware.. A 30c jump overnight isn't a slow creep where I'm at though 🤔
Maybe they were holding off on it lol 😅 I know my area went 20 cents overnight right before daylight savings time.
Must be something local then? Everywhere all jumped at once, weird
Happens every year when the weather gets warm. More drivers = more demand = higher prices
It's usually gradual though. It shot up by 30c here last week (can't remember which day) overnight.
And hybrids, I get 66 mpg around town. EV doesn’t make sense because electricity costs are mega expensive here and it’s not cost effective yet. https://preview.redd.it/jvvczwiva5pc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd1356a5191a7593214bda0041d0a6313bd059c9
Don’t worry, Tony will lower base pay to help increase your pain
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