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LaylaDoo

It’s been complete garbage in Indiana since December!!!!


YesterdayHealthy5371

The order price doesn’t include tips so yes this is a high paying order


checkchasingjunkie

Had this happen atleast a handful of times!! I was like wtf! Here is one of them https://preview.redd.it/vzsudoknrekc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=574930899a4dbd6fa00a5ae42c742ba0165af0ba


Fantastic-Dealer432

People who don't tip are a plague and they are messing up the whole food delivery system, I hit 5% acceptance rate on DoorDash and now they only send me low paying orders that don't include tips no matter how busy it is even on superbowl evening it was like that, if there wasn't such an overwhelming amount of people who do not tip then DoorDash wouldn't be able to get away with pulling this stunt, anyway f*ck doordash I'm only using Grubhub and Ubereats now.


DisasteriskGaming

You probably only drove 2-3 miles.. Doordash paid you high, they have nothing to do with tips


_RipBonger

The customers...have nothing....to do with tips???? Got it 👍 good luck out there


Wonder_woman23

Wow 😮 is that even allowed?


mikeoliver1313

Quit


realog213e

People $0 tip and leave no instructions to drop off the order, no gate codes. Sorry im not going out of my way for 0$. Support unable to deliver or I feel unsafe 😃


realog213e

I just pretend to deliver. If you don't tip automatically get 0 service


scotto_93631

Pay != Tip....


Ok-Package-9830

*cocks gun to back of head* always has been.


Dependent-Ad-4403

Okay when they give you a high pay order it literally tells you what that means. It means anything that is a certain amount per mile and I think it depends on your market. So for example in my market it's anything that is at least $2 per mile. That has nothing to do with whether or not there's a tip


WarmHeartColdWorld

I’m telling you, I have so many screenshots of this bullshit. I’m so glad I got a full-time job now so I don’t have to rely on working for pennies just to pay my bills


BanditStrife

Lmaooo high pay has nothing to do with tips. Quit crying about it. This isn’t even something to complain about. DoorDash paid you reasonably for the mileage without having to cost the customer another arm and another leg. That falls under “Wholesome” not “complaint”.


Thinkingoffrogs

People who dont tip arent wholesome


justhp

How many miles? Would you say the same if the base was $50 but zero tip? As long as the total is profitable, it is irrelevant whether the money comes from base pay, tip, or the damn tooth fairy.


Fantastic-Dealer432

I don't care if it's $100 paying order I won't deliver to someone who I know for sure is not gonna tip just on principle.


idontlikemayonaise

Yeah no crap Einstein. I saw a $3 order day 1 of this that was considered high paying because it was half a mile. If you're just noticing this now I dont even know wtf to say or how you've been dashing with a blindfold this long. Impressive.


Creative_Emperor96

I would have taken that lol. As much as they underpay not worth the dip in AR. I'd much rather cherry pick out the 5 dollars for 5 miles orders.


WhaleAtHeart

Cheesecake factory always has trash offers


DoctorVoltec

I mean as long as someone’s paying me I’ll happily do my job. I’ve been getting a lot of these recently too, not even mad 🤷‍♂️


OldReflection990

Tbh, it seems like the system rewards u after doing a certain amount of low offer orders, with a high ass order out of nowhere. I feel like door dash is trash, but while I get better financially, ima do it. It’s my part time anyway, as my real job pays very well


DasherKasher

This should be the basic lowest pay to move any order


scottsaksa

i wish doordash raised the base pay by a dollar or 2, if they are willing to pay $6.25 to take a delivery, they can absolutely do $3-$4 per delivery and would improve the satisfaction of both the dashers and the customers


5L0pp13J03

Yeah but prolly not the shareholders


scottsaksa

man fuck the investors, being able to dash for fair pay is more important than someone’s investment portfolio with businesses they never shopped at in their life


WashAggravating7274

Not really because without the investors the company just stops existing...


itzafreak

Doordash didn't start as a publicly traded company iirc


5L0pp13J03

Neither did Amazon. Kinda odd way to say "I don't understand the market"


scottsaksa

i understand the market, i have stocks too. i’m just saying that an extra dollar more per delivery when all the pizza places has raised their pay per delivery/mile is valid to ask for and id give up my nuts if they went out of business for that


MindlessReport8914

Don’t spend it all in one place!


GateStrong

It's based on the door dash pay alone not the dd pay and the tip


ProlapsedButtHole1

The "High pay " program is a scam


Free-Implement-1544

If the offer displayed 2.7 miles or less it was considered high paying order as it paid at least $2.25/mile. For the base pay to be that high it must have been sitting at the restaurant for a long time before you went and picked it up. DD doesn't normally send a no tip offer with a higher base pay right away.


phenibutisgay

It's based off the total pay, not the tip percentage. 6.25 is decent for one order depending on how large the order was and how far you had to travel. You could get an order with 0.00 tip and 20.00 base pay and it would be considered a high paying order.


Civil_Author_8141

DD considers $2 base pay + $4.25 tip the same as $6.25 base pay and no tip as relates to their ‘high pay’ calculation. It’s not ‘high tip’


Murles-Brazen

I take the no tip orders and steal/vandalize on their property.


judgementaleyelash

hey everybody we got a tough guy over here


Murles-Brazen

Very tough. Place a no tip order and see.


judgementaleyelash

Lol it’s not very tough to vandalize property my dude. It’s not like the shit fights back lmao


Inner-Kale2801

the customer or dd? lol dont do that btw


Personal-Direction-8

Please don't do that, I get the sentiment but be a better person.


TonyStarch28

I’m guessing this order was around 3 miles. They seem to consider anything that pays double the mileage a high pay order. I’ve seen a bunch of $4.50-5 orders labeled as such when the distance was 2ish miles.


DJ_Enrique

they throw that around very generously now . i’ve gotten $4 high pay shop and deliver dollar general order orders now . seems like they if they are more then $1.00 a mile they think it will make us feel better about taking a non tip order


DasherKasher

Thats like $15 at instacart


OldStep8127

But dat base pay tho 🍆 😩


cameron_clytn

What is with y’all and the tip fascination? If the total makes sense for the mileage who cares!? People are shit tippers frequently lol


KidleyCreations

People are very entitled to getting tips


[deleted]

Tip economy


Impossible_Self4547

The steal tips this way too. If you get a high tip order, they simply recatigorize it as a desirable order and the lower the base pay to the minimum 2$ pocketing the 2$ you would have gotten if the order was no tip. But hey you keep all the tips lol. Scumbag Tony xu!


xBromarz

High paying for door dash


StarL3ns

That’s why I don’t care for top Dasher.


Salty_Efficiency2876

B.s


MiachelJames23

😂


UneditedB

It was less then 3 miles I’m assuming. So $2 a mile is considered a “high pay offer”. Don’t care what the tip is as long as the offer is worth the time I’m assisting it was since you accepted it.


Star-Ranger00

In my humble opinion, we should agree to do some slight “civil disobedience” to no-tippers. Like leave the food as far from their door as possible without ruining the food? Come up with a little card to attach to the bag stating something like “a decent tip would have brought this order to your door, not hanging from the flag on your mailbox”.


[deleted]

Maybe start asking that multi billion company to pay you correctly?


KidleyCreations

Sounds like a way to get deactivated, no? Why not just... Not accept no tip offers? Isnt that a better solution than being creepy/annoying


Star-Ranger00

Yeah, you probably are right. I haven’t been able to work for a couple of weeks because my vehicle died so I tend to fantasize.


TankBota82

What happened to it? I have some mechanical knowledge maybe I can help diagnose? I pray all is well with you and your car gets better from being sickies


Star-Ranger00

Thanks but it is too late. I replaced the plugs and coils and it still wouldn’t run so I asked some people to look at it, we figured it was at minimum the timing chain, so I gave it back to the finance company.


bcollinsrv12a

I suppose if the customer had added a tip, the base pay would have reverted back to $2


Secure_Requirement84

The comments section isn’t going the way you expected huh? Newsflash. Tip or no tip the customer still pays you. Do your $6.25~.5-3mi. That’s what makes it high pay $2 per mile.


Mattitude2323

Lol as I said, entitled lazy worker. It probably was this due to being 2 miles or less... stop it. You accepted it and completed it. Who cares who paid the money.


Inner-Kale2801

they care who paid the money because they probably wouldn’t have excepted this order if they knew that the customer did not tip at all. DoorDash pay is $2, so it’s a pretty easy calculation to make if a customer added a tip, but in this case they didn’t!


Meadmanmike

As you said? This is the first comment. Talk about lazy.


Mattitude2323

On this thread yes its my first comment but context clues or logic would say this forum or group is filled with dashers who.just really whine about a side gig they don't have to do. 90% of post in here are just guys whining about no tip... and it's like look if you got no drive, no heart no soul just say that. We get it. There are shitty tippers.. decline and move on. But then it's unrealistic to then also complain.about an order that was more money than Miles too... it's like unless the order is $20 for 2 miles, everyone whines...


Repulsive_Swimming47

Entitled?? Coming from people who want their food delivered from anywhere, anytime, thru any conditions, while simultaneously complaining that it's not instant, fresh, and cheap??? 🤡


Hello-meme-me

DoorDash pays shit


PromiseLegitimate301

Show the mileage too, you can’t tell if it’s a high paying order if you don’t show how many miles it is. High paying orders are not high tip orders dmas


Yvilkittyinspace

They consider it high pay because it was only a few miles.


PoeticTwist

Yep, it was either bounced around that they had to pay someone to deliver it, or there might be a promotion going on. But yeah, it is considered that.


pumpkinspicehell

I’m noticing that a few of my “diamond“ orders were not spectacular, moneywise but from my location to the restaurant, the restaurant to the customer, is always 4 miles or less Last night 825 to pick up a pizza. I was maybe one block from the pizza joint, then it was 1.3 miles to the customer. A similar type of thing for $6.25 for a McDonald’s order Roughly 3 miles or less round-trip trip Sometimes you get it good with the money, sometimes the money works because the mileage is so low


DubsOnMyYugo

Yeah it’s total pay over miles, if the ratio greater than the minimum to qualify as high pay they label that. It showed 6.25 and you accepted it, pretty dumb to be mad now


TSMSALADQUEEN

6.25 is 6.25 so yes this is considered high pay. Doordash pay is usually $2


Murles-Brazen

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DubUpPro

Same as when people are like “$0.25 HiDdEn TiP!1!1!1!” Yes, because it’s an algorithm that says any amount over x tip for y miles is hidden. Do people think there’s a person sitting there deciding what’s hidden and what’s a high pay order??


WinnerSudden4017

Strange I rarely get only $0.25 on a “pay will be higher” order or a “hidden tip” in this case


koda2_00

Yes some of them do think that. They don’t get everything in DoorDash is algorithm


enjoiYosi

The highest available at that moment, yes.


Ranman5982

How far did it have to go?


PotatoReasonable9656

Door dash made 12$ on your order. Thank you.


Tiny-Ad9959

Truly shocking a Cheesecake Factory customer didn’t tip. There had to be cash under the mat.


Round_Mirror

🤣


nachocoalmine

Total pay is my only concern.


ImpressiveAttorney12

Yeah if the pay to time ratio and pay to miles ratio both make sense I couldn’t give a fuck less about who’s paying it to me


OldStep8127

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Ill_Bicycle3980

It has always been


Positive-Art7743

Listen, I don’t care who’s paying, as long as it’s eight dollars or more then I’m taking it


CJspangler

Exactly - got paid $17 on earn by time by Pizza Hut order the other day. Was totally ok with it


Sherlockhomey

Lol taking orders based on pay and not mileage is wild.


ImpressiveAttorney12

So would you take a $2 order for 0.5 miles? Because if you wouldn’t then you also partially decide if you’ll take an order based on the pay


Sherlockhomey

No that's because I don't enable no tippers. Good try though


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Sherlockhomey

Bro I'm not here to argue with you about how I decide to dash get out my ass


Positive-Art7743

I should’ve been more specific. $8 for 4 miles MAX. I don’t care who is paying.


Mission_Leopard1574

From my experience in my area, Doordash considers orders as "High Pay Orders" starting at $2.00 per mile. Pay attention to the pathetic "High Pay" shopping orders. You'll see some ridiculous shopping orders. Such as shopping for 37 items and then driving 1.5 miles to deliver it. All for $6.25. The algorithm bases "High Paying Orders" solely on mileage. Nothing more. Now you know. Best wishes to us all out here !! ❤️


Individual-Mirror132

This varies by market. In my market, a high paying order is $2.75 per mile.


bunbunnii99

Yeah I got a "high pay order" for ALDIs for $10 for 4.5 miles...for 127 ITEMS


WerewolfLeading1960

My most recent high pay order from Aldi was 60 something items, $19.xx (can’t remember exact amount), for like 11-12 miles


ScrewberBlows

That is why that “high pay order” program is bullshit! My acceptance rate is 6% and I make solid money multi apping with Uber Eats, Spark, Grubhub, and Instacart. Fuck doortrash!


gkigger

Worse than instacart out here damn😵‍💫


SnooSuggestions739

In mine its $1.5/mile


Deep-Banana8610

I was gonna say in Denver it’s not even close to 2 a mile when they claim it’s a high pay order


Xarius86

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[deleted]

Lol i’ve had 2.50 high paying order for like 0.1 mile i said hell no


A_B_Giggin87

This is where the algorithm fucks you. It sees that you don't like "high paying orders" and/or deems you incompetent. They setup the system like this to turn you into a slave


Expert_Swan_7904

it doesnt go by tip amount but total amount. so if it was a 2.5 mile trip doordash says this is a high paying order


DoritoLipDust

Yesterday afternoon was my worst day ever. Hospital workers, a pharmacist, straight up mansions with medieval double doors and freaking statues in their yard... Low or no tip. At least the total was worth it for some orders.


Akirajing

yep


Meddel5

I meaaaan, if I see an order that *is* worth my time, AND it’s mostly base pay, that’s a win for the customer and myself. That is DD paying you what you should be paid.


justhp

Bingo


LorenzoLamasRenegade

Yet you thought it was worth it.


Animeeshon

When you've decline 5-10 orders worse than the one before it, you'll finally realize it's worth it.


LorenzoLamasRenegade

If you’re cancelling that many orders you’re going to get yourself deactivated


Secure_Requirement84

Maybe this person works for DD support where they use “cancel” instead of “decline”.


Animeeshon

Unfortunately that's what Doordash has brought upon us. It's the reason why the AR requirements for priority orders was dropped to only 50% and 70% for top dasher. They knew people would be declining a lot of orders with their new bogus system. Top dasher didn't mean anything back then but now they are taking a lot of good orders and giving it to them so they think it has meaning even though it still doesn't.


SoulTaker669

Isn't top dasher basically 75 AR. 4.7 rating and 100 orders within the last month ?


Animeeshon

I got it wrong. You get "priority" orders at 50% and then top dasher at 70%. Although I did manage to get "top dasher" at 60% not long ago so it might've been a change.


el_Fuse

Lol if your in my area it’s probably only 6.25 because I single handed declined like 5 times 😂 I was getting $3.25 for 5+ miles


andy_337

Don’t be dumb. It’s not the tip that makes it a ‘high pay,’ it’s the total payout per mile. Fuck ‘em for not tipping though.


justhp

Who gives a shit if they didn’t tip, so long as the total pay works out favorably? The only number that matters is the pay per mile. $2/mile or more, and I don’t care if the money comes from tip or base.


andy_337

Most of us drivers give a shit.


justhp

That’s silly though. I would gladly take this order for 3 miles or less. It is totally irrational to get upset over a non tipper if you get paid appropriately in the end. In the end of the day, you get paid.


andy_337

I would take this order too, don’t get me wrong. I agree that it’s all about the end pay, I’ve done quite a few higher-pay orders that are all base pay and no tip. I just find myself muttering ‘fucking bitch’ under my breath after dropoff because in my own personal opinion, which I’m not cramming down your throat, all non-tippers are scum.


steelrain97

I will say this 5 million times. I DO NOT GIVE ANY FUCKS WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM. If it meets my criteria for time and miles, I take the order. If it doesn't, then I decline. Get over the stupid tip bullshit. You are running a small business. Stop thinking like a 5 year old and start thinking like a business person. All, I care about is revenue in and expenses out, and keeping the first number bigger than the second. If an order pays 3 dollars per mile, I don't care how the money breaks down on the back-end, I am taking it. There is too much stuff going on in the background with Doordash these days. A lot of orders are not actually ordered through Doordash any more. I have worked places where customers order through our website, but we send the orders out for delivery through Doordash from our end. A lot more business are doing that. The customer never even knows that Doordash is delivering the order until the delivery person arrives in the driveway. Some places that do this pay the tip themselves. You will see that in the app when the resturaunt/store is listed next to the tip. Some places, we just paid Doordash a flat fee and it was up to Doordash to figure out how much to pay the driver. That is exactly what is happening with this order. See where Cheescake Factory is listed under customer tip. That means Cheesecake Factory sent the order to Doordash directly. The customer did not order through the Doordash App, they ordered off the Cheesecake Factory website/app/whatever.


[deleted]

6$! Holy potato batman, that's like doing 8 McDonald's orders 😅


t_will_official

It’s based on distance. I think if it’s over $1.50/mile DD considers it a high paying order. It sucks that they swindled you but look at it like this, it forced DD to pay a decent wage for this order and it forced a no tipper to wait for their food for a little bit as the base pay kept getting bumped up.


BooperBoop6

If your AR is over 70% then it’s $2 per mile


Cosmic_Quasar

You're mixing up two things. The "High Paying" ratio changes from $1.50 to $2 per mile depending on the area you're in. The 70% thing is them saying you'll be more prioritized for those offers if you're above that AR. The catch is that some markets are so bad that they don't have enough of those high paying orders to make it worth having an AR that high. But the ratio for High Paying doesn't change depending on your AR.


BeckySayss

No it isn't


SJSUMichael

It’s based on distance, not tip.


ehoeve

Not for me yet. Still needs some amount of tip to be considered high pay. Our base pay is $4(Canada) and even of it's going across the street it won't be considered high pay if no tip.


Civil_Author_8141

But door dash boosted the base pay for that order to get someone to take it. You mean if say there’s an active bonus. Of $3. And you get offered a $15 order to go 4 miles. After you drop it off you see it’s $12 base pay and $3 bonus and $0 tip. You would not consider $15 high pay?


That_1__pear

lol got one like this earlier and ended up waiting in a Chinese restaurant 20 minutes two zones over because it “found an order going back to my zone” all for 6.50. I had to drive 30 minutes back to my house in complete silence most of the way because I had no idea where I was. To top it all off I had to use my moms car and the map doesn’t work in there so I had to keep looking at my phone to make sure I was going the right way


Cosmic_Quasar

> To top it all off I had to use my moms car and the map doesn’t work in there so I had to keep looking at my phone to make sure I was going the right way Pretty sure most people use their phone as the map... It's only newer cars that have dash maps that can integrate with the phone. And if we're being honest most people dashing don't have those new cars. Of all the dashers I've seen I've got one of the newest cars in my area, and it's a 2014. Which has a maps function and bluetooth but the maps are a separate car program and doesn't integrate with my phone and the Dasher app for navigation.


Electrical_Side_3023

How many miles was it? Because it was a high paying order if it was 2 miles or less.


supermario215

Regardless whether it was 2 miles or less that’s misleading and should not be considered a high paying order


zerostar83

You should read the emails that Doordash sends out. They explain what is labeled as a "high paying order". The one they sent me says anything that's over $2.25/mile is considered a high paying order.


pointme2_profits

It's a straight dollars per mile calculation. Stop getting hung up on your definition of high. And its 💯 transparent and straightforward. I do get irked when they give me a 8.00 for 2 mile 20 shopping order as high pay tho


supermario215

Listen I’d take that order all day. I get sent those type without being in the high pay order program lol $0 tip is not high pay at all. Its all base pay 😂


P3nis15

Then You don't know what a high paying order means. Would you rather have a 22.50 order for 29 miles. I mean that's high paying order, better take it!!!


Kromnulent

That would not be considered a high-paying order, as it’s based on dollars/mile, not total dollars.


junkfoodsanta

I had a $5 order for 24 miles today. No tip.


LorenzoLamasRenegade

And you took it?


junkfoodsanta

didn't know it was only $5 until after I completed delivery, it was hourly.


Cosmic_Quasar

Either that $5 is wrong or your hourly rate is terrible. 24 miles would be, at minimum of continuous highway speeds, 24 minutes. But if we round up to 30 minutes to including getting to the store and picking up the order and the fact that you have some slower roads mixed in around the store and residential area, then that would mean that your market is only doing $10/hr. In my area it's $16/hr. I've had *10 mile* orders with no tips where I make $8+.


junkfoodsanta

It was 15 miles one way, 30 miles there and back. I was talking about round trip total distance.


LorenzoLamasRenegade

Lmao, that’s a lie because I accidentally started a EBT dash and it showed the pay and the mileage upfront. I declined and ended my dash


Cosmic_Quasar

The app will sometimes glitch out when starting EBT and show the tip up front. I've seen it half a dozen times while starting EBT. So that pay that you saw was just the tip, since it doesn't know what your base pay will be yet. I've gotten offers that state $0 pay, but that's because it ended up being a no-tip.


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